/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:32:55 2017 No.3037975 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

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There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

OLD THREAD: >>3035120

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:33:05 2017 No.3037976 File: 165 KB, 1080x1440, 2dcfcd7216a33e38b17c644e00743b9c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:33:38 2017 No.3037978 File: 197 KB, 1440x960, b0666484474ed2fc6204d4eff11736b7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:33:54 2017 No.3037979 File: 36 KB, 600x568, f415d7c651a2fd359b1da93a2e2d341d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:34:10 2017 No.3037980 File: 28 KB, 400x600, 77db0a6c0b369e7c589a147368316061.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:34:26 2017 No.3037982 File: 32 KB, 341x600, c0445e4e108686fe9100e576c2f701b6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:37:56 2017 No.3037991 File: 135 KB, 750x1000, 2017-06-26 17.19.00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rope could use some work

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:38:29 2017 No.3037993 File: 39 KB, 474x600, 1498183963178.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037991 ref from a couple days ago

Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:46:07 2017 No.3038000
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This gesture thing is getting really annoying. but only because I don't understand it and I'm really trying to...

Surely this isn't just drawing stick figures, is it???

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:51:38 2017 No.3038008 >>3038000 did you read any book or watch any video on gesture? if not, pls do. You have to capture the gesture of the individual parts or the entire body motion, not just draw lines for every part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 20:53:02 2017 No.3038009 >>3038008 I have!! I've watched all sorts of videos and read! It's just not showing and I don't know why!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:26:21 2017 No.3038045 >>3038009 >>3038000 Watch Proko.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:29:49 2017 No.3038054 File: 359 KB, 1003x974, 26-6-2017.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Give critique please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:32:32 2017 No.3038058 >>3038054 Post construction layers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:40:10 2017 No.3038069 >>3038054 Good clean painting but the perspective is wonky and values are flat and inconsistent. Post reference pls.

Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:47:01 2017 No.3038078

Is it considered shameful to look at a big artist you like a lot and try to learn how to draw/gain a style by looking at their drawings and trying to copy them as a reference (not tracing, just trying to create the same drawing) and not claiming it as mine or posting it or anything? I just don't want to be accused down the line of copying somebody else's style but I really really like theirs, and I'd like to draw in a similar way

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:48:03 2017 No.3038081 >>3038078 NO NO NO NO NO MASTER STUDIES ARE A GOOD THING

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:48:34 2017 No.3038082 >>3038078 EVERYONE DOES MASTER STUDIES

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:49:50 2017 No.3038083 >>3038082 >>3038081 Okay good I'm the newest newfaggot to this board and art you can think of and was worried about this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:50:36 2017 No.3038084 >>3038083 It's a great way to learn and often times you see people post their studies and stuff here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:53:05 2017 No.3038087 File: 136 KB, 1003x974, blockout.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038058 I flattened all layer so I lost it. I try to replicate it for you, basically just blocking out where the eyes,nose,lips are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:55:30 2017 No.3038089 File: 286 KB, 877x907, 26-6-2017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038069 Thanks.I drew from imagination with diferent references from different people combined. Tweaked the value a bit, is it a little better now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 21:59:33 2017 No.3038092 File: 201 KB, 1600x1200, slick pose.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:02:46 2017 No.3038094 >>3038087 That works well enough. Thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:04:57 2017 No.3038095 how important is drawing in good light? its dark out now and im just drawing by my computer light' i can see well enough but its still kind of dark

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:05:48 2017 No.3038096 >>3038095 very important, you gotta be able to see that shit bro. turn on a fucking light

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:07:28 2017 No.3038098 File: 213 KB, 274x476, 1430494337917.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038096 ok i turned my light on

Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:10:31 2017 No.3038103

>>3038089
It did need more light but you lost some of the contrast.

The inconsistency was more to do with the lighting. It's not clear which direction it's coming from. The right cheek is lighter than the left cheek. The left has rim light but doesn't show on the nose or anywhere else. The nose is in shadow and side plane is too dark. The right eye should be in shadow but is highlighted. Basically lighting is all over the place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:14:22 2017 No.3038111 File: 191 KB, 1028x772, isabella.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:14:48 2017 No.3038112 File: 18 KB, 410x410, 1395219918016.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038103 Thank anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 22:16:55 2017 No.3038115 when doing the drawabox 250 box challenge, am I supposed to be like envisioning a box first and then trying to get it right? Or am I just supposed to draw the Y and use perspective rules to shit out basically whatever box comes out?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 23:09:15 2017 No.3038162 File: 976 KB, 640x1136, IMG_7610.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been drawing mannequins for a few days now to try and improve my proportions. Should I fix anything or just keep drawing them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 23:15:36 2017 No.3038175 >>3038162 keep drawing, check with references after a couple of drawings to see if your proportions are right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 23:51:07 2017 No.3038206 File: 141 KB, 1440x810, 4dabbbea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >OP didn't use the image i drode as the OP image I hereby quit drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 26 23:58:46 2017 No.3038211 with the picasso exercise is it asking me to draw it right side up with the upside down portrait as a reference or draw it upside down the same way as the portrait

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:02:01 2017 No.3038213 >>3038211 Nvm, it said what I had to do literally the next page, sorry

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:03:23 2017 No.3038214 Oh man I made the op image. I don't know if I should be happy or cry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:09:42 2017 No.3038218 File: 114 KB, 510x460, ice_screenshot_20170626-235313.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What should I fix?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:17:25 2017 No.3038230 Sup. When drawing from reference, should I do the construction for proportions/anatomy, or just blind sketch it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:25:34 2017 No.3038238 Sup. When drawing from reference, should I do the construction for proportions/anatomy, or just blind sketch it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:26:43 2017 No.3038241 >>3038206 You mean did? It's not exactly a compliment.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:30:13 2017 No.3038245

>>3038230
I guess it's better to do some basic construction to understand the reference as a 3D object/person, but I'm guessing it doesn't have to be too accurate of a construction since you can practice that separately, at least it's what I do as a fellow /beg/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:31:38 2017 No.3038248 File: 593 KB, 1000x1000, img.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] torsos without reference

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:36:51 2017 No.3038255 File: 2.52 MB, 3000x1500, foot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] do i have the basics of feet down?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:38:50 2017 No.3038258 are tiny little composition notebooks okay for sketches?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:44:20 2017 No.3038263

>>3038162
Are you trying to draw them exactly as you see them? Are you drawing different ones? Some of these look normal, some look fat, some look shorter. Just drawing mannequins won't help you understand proportion unless you are carefully studying the relationship of the sizes of each body part in each pose.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:45:57 2017 No.3038268

>>3038095
That;s an extremely bad habit. Your drawing surface should be well lit. My drafting table, where I draw the most, has two swing arm lights with 75K bulbs in them - that's bare minimum to me, they should be 100K, but the lamps aren't rated for that high.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:46:52 2017 No.3038269 >>3038258 Anything is "okay" I started learning by drawing in extra pages of old notebooks I had from school. So I wouldn't worry about it too much. Get some better materials when you can though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:49:48 2017 No.3038273 >>3038255 watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05fn1DlFRtY Try not to use spheres for construction. Rely on boxy shapes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:50:55 2017 No.3038274 >>3038248 How many figures with reference did it take for you to get to this point?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:51:25 2017 No.3038276 >>3038258 How small are they? If you are trying to render and stuff you need some size.. otherwise you won't be able to add details.. printer paper is fine, any 2B or 3B pencil is fine for both sketching and shading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:53:54 2017 No.3038279 >>3038263 That's what I'm trying to do. I just want to be able to draw the basic forms of a body. When I tried gesture it looked like shit, so I figured I should take things back to basics.

>>	NoseBro Tue Jun 27 00:55:00 2017 No.3038280 >>3038274 from imagination it would take you 1500 figures to get to this level from 0. at 2.5 mintues each.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:55:16 2017 No.3038281 >>3038273 good video but im not using spheres?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:55:50 2017 No.3038282 >>3038274 I just look at my own body as reference and then add hips if I want to draw female body

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:56:56 2017 No.3038284 >>3038280 Thanks NoseBro. I knew I could count on you to measure these things out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 00:58:17 2017 No.3038285 >>3038282 You have a hot body. Mind posting some pics for reference?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:17:09 2017 No.3038294 Is it a requirement to do the picasso exercise? I understand what it's trying to tell me and I think it'd be better if I just stop and move onto something else

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:18:14 2017 No.3038296 >>3038294 Think of it as an initiation. We won't consider you cool until you do so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:42:48 2017 No.3038315 I feel uncomfortable drawing nudes, especially boobs. How do I get over this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 01:45:30 2017 No.3038319 >>3038315 come back to 4chan when you're 18

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:00:03 2017 No.3038332 >>3038315 Lol fuuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:05:40 2017 No.3038338 File: 137 KB, 1000x1000, eye study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3036464 I'm >>3035588 Here's what I did, I'm not sure if it's good or bad, either way it took me like 8 hours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:07:02 2017 No.3038339 File: 2.00 MB, 1852x2524, 1498431768469.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038338 >posts >immediately spots problems fuck. Here's the original reference by the way for anyone curious or wanting to do it themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:11:27 2017 No.3038346 Question: Do you pretty much need to use blending in order to render hair efficiently?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:13:14 2017 No.3038348 >>3038338 what is with that box did you have a stroke?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:15:54 2017 No.3038349 >>3038346 Never mind; found a video on how to draw strands properly to not need blending.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:16:19 2017 No.3038350 >>3038349 post it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:18:25 2017 No.3038355 >>3038348 I thought the exercise was to draw the eye, not the box, so I ignored the box. To be fair I knew I shouldn't have done that and was being extremely lazy, so that is a fair criticism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:20:37 2017 No.3038359 >>3038346 >>3038349 >>3038350 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKw7CzL8EP8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:29:55 2017 No.3038375 My straight lines stabilize a lot more when drawing with my hand braced against the drawing surface. Is this fine, or a bad habit? My straight lines go all over the place with only the tool tip touching the surface.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:31:19 2017 No.3038377 >>3038375 >anon fell for the don't let your hand ever touch the surface meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:34:04 2017 No.3038382 >>3038375 put your canvas at an angle, it will really help with keeping your hand off the paper. try not to have your canvas directly parallel to the ground because youll want to have your hand resting on your paper

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:37:46 2017 No.3038388

>>3038377
I haven't seen anything either way, it seems like something that's probably okay but possibly a bad habit that I'll need to redevelop motor memory for later to correct.
I guess I'm just asking to be memed into oblivion though.
>yes anon, draw with a stable hand and you're NGMI, flail out those squiggles 16hrs/day til they're straight :^)c

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:45:09 2017 No.3038398
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>>3037980

Why is it when I'm doing full bodies I can't really get the shadows right/realistic? So much easier if I just draw a giant nose or eye to make it look really realistic, but the body? It's really difficult. Looks like a mess desu, anyone had similar problems? Tips?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 02:57:51 2017 No.3038419

>>3038338
That's pretty good anon! A little rough but fine altogether. I'd say you're passing through symbol drawing now. Did you feel like this exercise helped you?

Next, if you're goal is to learn to draw faces from imagination, you'll first need to draw a bunch from reference. Pick one gender at a time and do a series of them. In between, go watch study sessions from Vilppu or Proko about how to draw the different parts of the face such as eyes, nose, mouth. So draw your faces, insert some feature studies in between, then at the end draw some faces from imagination. Keep repeating this and you'll start to internalize the process and you'll be able to draw heads no problem.

If you haven't yet, you should do form/light studies. If you understand how light works and how it applies to form, it will save you time from having to guess where shadows and highlights go. You can just look at a face, figure out its light source, and know how the shadows, midtones, and highlights will look.

Keep up the good work and keep posting so you can get feedback.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 03:21:48 2017 No.3038455
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It's good?
Also
How to draw texture? (Like steel,furry, something dry, slimy, etc)

(If I have a mistake orthography, I apologize and request to correct me,if you want, thanks)

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 03:22:18 2017 No.3038457
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>>3038419
I used to do cloth studies a lot so I at least have the slightest clue about how light works, but obviously not enough so I'll do more. Thanks for all the advice and the specific study I should try. It definitely helped, it made me realize that an eye is nothing but squishiness surrounding a ball, that the almond shape is just the squishiness. Logically and practically, I already knew this, but I didn't think of how that actually applies. Thanks anon and thanks /ic/.

Also I fixed some of the problems and probably made some new ones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 03:26:45 2017 No.3038466 How the fuck do I draw fists?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 03:49:23 2017 No.3038497

>>3038398
If you draw it on small piece of paper you should simplify shading, so that it enforces form and light and shadow areas.
But it'd be best for you to just get a bigger page and get more detail in single drawing.
Figure drawing classes usually use B2 format or bigger.
>>3038455
You can use reflections and highlights to show that something is metallic.
For slimy things also add translucency and for fur add random lines in shadow areas.
You should pick a photo and study from it or see how other artist draw them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 03:50:58 2017 No.3038500 >>3038294 >day 1 >being a lazy bitch with this attitude you might as well give up

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 03:57:32 2017 No.3038503

>>3038497
You're right, it's probably the size.. humm.. it's a bit difficult for me to draw on big pages, gonna have to buy a desk.

No much point in simplifying shadows yet for me though, since I'm specifically practicing shadows, values and rendering with my studies. I wanna do that later on when I move into a manga style.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 05:58:08 2017 No.3038593 File: 89 KB, 395x1050, figr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to avoid the chicken scratching, how is it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 06:05:32 2017 No.3038600 File: 472 KB, 1000x800, beg1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I see now that the mouth/ear/scalp are wrong. am I missing anything else?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 06:13:41 2017 No.3038614

>>3038294
You can't be so lazy you can't manage to do a single exercise before dropping it. You're literally NGMI. Takes about 30-60 minutes, you do it in a single seating, don't be a lazy fuck, everyone has done it, why do you wanna be the exception?

Do you think you already understand drawing what you see, as opposed to symbol drawing? Post your work.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 06:21:59 2017 No.3038616
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>>3038600
Use shading to show plane changes, avoid lines like on the nose.
Don't draw outline of lips, avoid outlining each teeth, use shading instead.
Search for Doxy's lips tutorial, it's really helpful.
Last thing: keep everything alligned to perspective.
Eyes should lie on the same line and nose with lips should share a center line.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 06:33:13 2017 No.3038621 >>3038255

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 06:54:07 2017 No.3038634 >>3038218 Give them eyebrows

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 08:26:44 2017 No.3038694 File: 430 KB, 652x1000, beg2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038616 Thanks! I've always had a hard time keeping eyes in line.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 08:47:16 2017 No.3038703 File: 1.06 MB, 1905x2857, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037975

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 08:49:43 2017 No.3038704 What are some general rules and tips when drawing the female body ?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 08:59:45 2017 No.3038708
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This is how I art:
>Draw a reference
It sucks so I erase it.
>Draw reference again
I erase half of it and I start again.
>Delete and redraw eyes
The eyes still look wrong.
>Delete and redraw eyes
The eyes still look wrong.
>Delete and redraw eyes
The eyes still look wrong.
>Delete face and decide to trace it
The eyes and face still look wrong and apparently the other character in the photo is out of proportion.
>Delete the eyes. Trace the eyes
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Trace the eyes
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Trace the eyes
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Trace the eyes
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Don't trace the eyes but reference it closely
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Don't trace the eyes but reference it closely
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Don't trace the eyes but reference it closely
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Don't trace the eyes but reference it closely
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Don't trace the eyes but reference it closely
It still looks wrong.
>Delete the eyes. Don't trace the eyes but reference it closely
Finally it looks right!
>Add colours
It looks like shit.
>Delete colours and redo it.
Still looks like shit
>Delete colours and redo it.
Looks slightly better this time.
>Delete colours and redo it.
It looks better this time. Call it a study and publish it online.
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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 09:00:56 2017 No.3038709 >>3038708 >using references ngmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 09:10:02 2017 No.3038716 File: 44 KB, 640x480, 1491918762019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038709 One day I hope that someone will be able to image dreams and imagination and since my dreams and imagination are incredibly vivid I could use those as references.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 09:43:21 2017 No.3038754 >>3038339 If drawing this in ink, how do I shade it? With hatching, stippling, what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 09:45:15 2017 No.3038755 >>3038709 whats wrong with using references

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 09:57:33 2017 No.3038772 File: 14 KB, 1065x525, MyOwnUSSRPixelArt-8bit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cri-tekk ples xd I am god Eertist ??????

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 10:57:23 2017 No.3038818 Is loomis' figure drawing book a good follow up to fun with a pencil?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 11:18:24 2017 No.3038833 File: 474 KB, 1024x1402, 1498515420476.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	NoseBro Tue Jun 27 11:20:06 2017 No.3038834 File: 3.43 MB, 1420x1151, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3038833

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 12:11:32 2017 No.3038872 >>3038218 this >>3038634 and remake the thick lines for the two pointy hairs of the girl, with thinner lines for that two hairs and eyebrows everything will look well-balanced

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 13:19:10 2017 No.3038918 Does anyone else feel like your hands just don't do what you want them to when you first start? How do I get over this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 13:23:02 2017 No.3038928 >>3038918 drawabox do a lot of boring bodymechanical drawing exercises.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 13:31:24 2017 No.3038938 >>3038709 >>3038755 Nothing, don't listen to this retard. Your mind can't randomly make up human proportions, references are absolutely necessary, at least for practice.

>>	for_fuck_sake Tue Jun 27 13:39:00 2017 No.3038948 >>3038755 this >>3038938

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 13:44:04 2017 No.3038951 >>3038928 Should I do all of Drawabox?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 13:50:21 2017 No.3038957 >>3038709 Someone post that guy's imgur that only drew horseshit from imagination for two years

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 13:54:52 2017 No.3038960 >>3038918 You need to develop your hand dexterity, this is normal, everyone has to go through this. It's like learning to write when you were a kid, your handwriting always looked like shit.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 14:18:41 2017 No.3038990
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>>3037982
It annoyed me so much that the base sketch took so long to make that I'm satisfied with. Should I keep grinding gestures and stuff, or are there any other things I should do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 14:20:24 2017 No.3038992 File: 677 KB, 1232x2048, 20170627_185302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do i prevent myself from drawing characters that are flat and boring?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 14:56:07 2017 No.3039033 >>3038951 Yes Only the first part focuses on mechanical practise though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 15:32:24 2017 No.3039060 >>3038992 You learn forms

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 15:39:35 2017 No.3039071 File: 2.00 MB, 3120x4160, IMG_20170627_153638.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I improve anons, send help please. It looks nothing like her, how do I capture likeness, any guides or tips would be highly appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 15:47:31 2017 No.3039076 >>3038951 Only up until he starts on humans. There are much better teachers than him in that regard and his actual work also leaves much to be desired.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 15:48:33 2017 No.3039078 >>3039071 Post reference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 15:49:04 2017 No.3039079 >>3038708 remember your art isn't precious just finish the damn drawing, see what you can do better, and move to the next one learn from your mistakes, don't hide them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 15:50:36 2017 No.3039080 File: 61 KB, 1275x1650, drawing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how are things looking?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 16:32:14 2017 No.3039128

>>3038833
I dont know if it was intentional but there is a warp in space and time near the side of her face.

I drew some very crude red lines to reign in the special anomaly. I just have some plum lines and planes keeping things even.

Of course if this was intentional or you disagree then just ignore it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 16:33:37 2017 No.3039130 File: 525 KB, 1000x760, warped face crit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 16:37:18 2017 No.3039132 >>3039078 its in the thread >>3038600

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 16:47:28 2017 No.3039141 >>3039132 It's pretty fucking good, Anon. Only things I can see wrong is the mouth and the fact that she looks bald.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 16:51:52 2017 No.3039146 >>3039071 post it side by side with the reference and you will immediately see everything wrong with it. subtlety is very important in faces.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 16:58:27 2017 No.3039156

My parents just gifted me a Wacom Intuos Art since they noticed I've been practicing lately.
Thing is, it feels awful to draw on, my lines aren't nearly as firm as they should be and it's also very small.
Do I just return it or do I keep trying to get used to it?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:07:30 2017 No.3039167

>>3039156
In the end your parents gifted you the tablet because they want to see you happy and succeed. If you feel like the gift was not really what you wanted after all, I would just make this known. Make sure they know you appreciate the gesture and exchange the gift for perhaps a bigger size version. It's not like it's a handmade product, so I don't think there will be much emotional attachment by them to the gift itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:08:27 2017 No.3039168 >>3039156 If you have the small model, and a high resolution screen, it's going to be really annoying to use. But if you have the medium one, just keep practicing, and you'll get used to it. The first week of using a tablet is always very weird.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:09:28 2017 No.3039170 >>3039156 Steal their credit card and buy a 27qhd

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:11:39 2017 No.3039172

>>3039167
I mean don't get me wrong, I really apreciated it, but I don't think the quality of the tablet itself is that great, so I considered returning it and saving money to buy a better one. Seems like small tablets can cause a lot of wrist pain, not to mention the tablet itself doesn't feel very accurate. I was mostly trying to see if anyone here knew about this specific model and if it was good enough for a first tablet.

>>3039168
My computer screen you mean? if so it's the usual 1080p, the tablet is also the smallest model apparently, it really doesn't feel comfortable no matter what I try, but I was hoping that is just me not being used to digital drawing, the lines are all wobbly but I can draw just fine on paper.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:16:30 2017 No.3039179

>>3039172
yea, maybe get a bigger model, the small model is bad if your screen is 1080p, especially if its like 21-23 inches. It's just too small. I'd recommend getting the wacom art medium, wacom one medium, or huion 1060 plus. The wacom art medium is good, but it's 200 dollars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:23:36 2017 No.3039190 >>3038593 Is she supposed to look anorexic? The exposed rip cage makes it seem like she just escaped a concentration camp. And the left arms a little off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:31:45 2017 No.3039206 File: 34 KB, 1152x648, shadows and outlines.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037979

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:36:20 2017 No.3039215 >>3039179 I've never seen anyone talking about Art though, it's always Intuos, so I started thinking it was some old obsolete model. What is the difference, even?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 17:37:33 2017 No.3039220 >>3039179 Also just to give a better idea on the size, it's about half of an A4 paper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:15:23 2017 No.3039252 >>3038992 1. forms 2. learn to depict weight and motion in gesture; the pose looks stiff because it's too symmetrical

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:17:04 2017 No.3039254 File: 283 KB, 1112x670, 20170625_183035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do i shadow?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:18:54 2017 No.3039257 >>3039254 gerald breem please go

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:19:09 2017 No.3039258 File: 484 KB, 1020x1403, l00d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:28:54 2017 No.3039269

Are there any resources for drawing items and shit? more specifically weapons?

I always try to draw shit with reference, I really like flintlock weapons but it always comes out looking really awkward, especially when i try to draw like a character holding it or some shit

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:34:01 2017 No.3039274

>>3039254
your shading looks pretty decent honestly, your anatomy is wack though. dude on the right has huge fucking eyes, nose look smushed in like a pancake, jaw is kinda crooked.

Also don't be afraid to use just straight black lines to convey when one shape ends and another begins. I see this most around the ears, where the ear connects back to the head. your drawing looks like the ear just kinda morphs into the cheek because you did some fine shading from cheek to ear. just draw a dark line between cheek/ear to let the viewers know they are two seperate shapes.

Also, this is kind of a more advanced idea, but sometimes it's better to use shadow to bring attention to the light. For example, people will often shade in the ears or neck because that brings more attention to the face

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:36:41 2017 No.3039280 >>3039274 thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 18:49:31 2017 No.3039305 >>3038872 Ok thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:00:49 2017 No.3039318 >>3039220 The active area or the whole tablet? If it's the active area, you've got the medium version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:22:22 2017 No.3039342 >>3039318 the whole tablet, the active area is less than that. Would it help if i lower my screen resolution?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:26:00 2017 No.3039350 >>3039269 It's the same as drawing humans, understand what they're made of and how they're made, what everything does, and how each piece relates to the next, and you'll be able to draw them better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:26:54 2017 No.3039351 What's the right way to go at Loomis? I just finished Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:31:54 2017 No.3039359 File: 98 KB, 720x480, boise-headshots-000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:39:57 2017 No.3039374 File: 355 KB, 1629x995, IMG_20170627_153633.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037975 how do i draw bodies

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:44:16 2017 No.3039381 File: 281 KB, 2000x1000, combat medic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any tips and tricks?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:50:37 2017 No.3039388 File: 179 KB, 800x800, 62717.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried painting a head, I don't really paint much. Pls help.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:55:29 2017 No.3039392 >>3039381 How old are you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:57:05 2017 No.3039394 >>3039381 timmy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 19:58:16 2017 No.3039395 >>3039381 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:00:25 2017 No.3039397 >>3039392 >>3039394 >>3039395 being a complete noob myself as well, i was gonna post here and try to get better too. guess i'll do that somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:03:02 2017 No.3039399 >>3038708 Post it here for crit...

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:06:53 2017 No.3039403

Never really drawn before, and I want to get to the point that I can draw characters. Should I dive into figure drawings and such to get used to drawing people or should I try to draw objects first?

I'm coming into this from programming, so it's hard to find my footing. I'm used to finding concrete tutorials to follow when learning new stuff in that discipline.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:07:39 2017 No.3039404 >>3039403 >Should I dive into figure drawings and such to get used to drawing people or should I try to draw objects first? Do both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:08:40 2017 No.3039406 >>3039397 You're either going to get shit on or get false praises that stagnant your growth no matter where you go. Learn how to ignore the shitty part and only take the stuff that will help you improve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:11:34 2017 No.3039410 >>3038990 Gesture -> construction -> refine the anatomy

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:12:01 2017 No.3039413

>>3039399
critique... what a funny and familiar word

looks more like this entire thread is dry from anything even resembling "critique"

this is a bait thread right? where you can laugh at shitty beginners for lulz right?

>>3039406
So you're basically telling me, since i am a beginner, to ignore this thread. Not even sure why i expected a Yotsuba board to be any different from any of the other degenerate boards that purely exist for lulz

thanks for the heads up anyway, the advice is well received

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:13:18 2017 No.3039416 File: 129 KB, 538x563, azn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039359 does this look good?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:15:00 2017 No.3039418
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>Draw almost every day
>average a page front and back per day
>flips thorugh nearly a hundred pages in my note book
>zero improvement
>many of the older drawings are BETTER

idk. i've been trying to improve for 2 years and these pasts months i really put effort into it. i think i just dont have a brain for it. im more logic oriented, i guess creative stuff is just impossible. this must be how people who struggle in math class feel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:15:48 2017 No.3039419 >>3039404 Whats a good place to start from literally nothing? I'm still having trouble getting straight lines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:17:16 2017 No.3039420 >>3039419 >Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson >drawabox.com >Peter Han's Dynamic sketching In that order

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:19:35 2017 No.3039422 >>3039420 Thank you! Gonna dig in and I'll be back when I have stuff to show for critique.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:19:51 2017 No.3039424 >>3039418 a page front and back isn't that much. Try two pages front and back

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:20:39 2017 No.3039425 >>3039418 one page front and back per day? that's not enough. try like 4 page front and back. how long do you spend trying ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:21:41 2017 No.3039426 >>3039424 lol you beat me to it. it is true though you need to draw more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:33:07 2017 No.3039434 >>3039381 you are attempting something beyond your skillset. get your skills up first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:34:33 2017 No.3039435 >>3039418 I notice improvements from day to day, stop making excuses for your failures

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:39:33 2017 No.3039442 >>3039351 Anyone? Which book should I start with?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:40:27 2017 No.3039445 >>3039442 Fun with a Pencil

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 20:42:25 2017 No.3039451 >>3038280 Can't be that hard to reach that level..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:17:56 2017 No.3039486 >>3039418 a page front and back is too little. try about 6 pages front and back

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:20:27 2017 No.3039488 >>3038255 someone respond to this

>>	NoseBro Tue Jun 27 21:28:39 2017 No.3039494 >>3039451 youre acting like 60 hours over 2 months is hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:40:43 2017 No.3039508 >>3039413 Read the Stick, do everything and come back, fag

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:41:23 2017 No.3039509 >>3039388 pls respond

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:44:00 2017 No.3039513 File: 73 KB, 240x189, 1459839668691.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is it game over if you develop carpel tunnel syndrome?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:45:43 2017 No.3039515 File: 119 KB, 825x1050, scribbleshit2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2 minutes each. Out of 20 only these looks humanoid. Sigh...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:47:25 2017 No.3039517 >>3039515 now do this every day for the next three months

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:49:28 2017 No.3039519 File: 644 KB, 2000x1000, shitline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039381 I'm shit but I tried to give some basic advice that would help you improve before you delve into anatomy.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 21:58:02 2017 No.3039523
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>>3039515
Try a longer time like 5 mins.

Your gestures look weightless and out of balance. Always make sure to plant the feet and think about how the weight is distributed. Think about how the legs push up on the pelvis and how the arms push up on the shoulders.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:08:00 2017 No.3039526

>>3039513
Nope, I developed carpal tunnel and guyon's canal in both hands, got surgery after 6 months and it fixed me almost completely. I still get a little pain but only after hours of constant drawing. I usually just take a break or rest my hands in warm water and I'm good to go.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:12:48 2017 No.3039530

>>3039156
I couldnt get used to the ones with out a display so I bought a 27QHD. I definitely recommend a cintiq, but if your a kid and don't have a job a medium intous is alright if your are scanning in your sketches.

I would also look at your budget and consider options in the middle with a display. Although i have to add that even with a display it does not feel organic like charcoal or paint do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:13:50 2017 No.3039532 >>3039523 Anon those gestures are very impressive.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:19:57 2017 No.3039537
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>>3039526
>>3039513
As a med student the only real management is:
1. Getting a splint
2. Glucocorticoids (injections or oral) - very controversial
3. Surgery because as you can see the carpal tunnel is very narrow

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:20:25 2017 No.3039538

>>3039526
Thats reassuring, I was taking precations when I was practicing and duings studies because that stuff scared me, but unfortunately I didnt take the similar precations at work and It seems Im developing symptoms of it, ( tip of Fingers feeling numb and some pain on them, like If I slapped them really hard), gonna go to the doctor this later this week.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:24:07 2017 No.3039539 >>3039532 they're Michael Hampton's

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:34:49 2017 No.3039545 File: 1.88 MB, 2610x2192, 20170627_223350.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039416

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:37:15 2017 No.3039548 I really want to try drawing lewds, but I'm scared I'll jack off to them right away and feel bad. What do I do?

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:39:35 2017 No.3039551
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>>3039545
Eye too far and mouth too small. Eye should line up with nose. I don't know why I'm trying to fix this, I have no skill or talent and I might be totally wrong. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:39:38 2017 No.3039552 >>3039548 Draw lewds then come to the realization that you cant jack off to your own lewds

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:40:38 2017 No.3039554 >>3039552 But what if I can??

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:41:18 2017 No.3039556 >>3039554 Then do it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:44:22 2017 No.3039559 >>3039556 But I'll feel so ashamed afterwards...

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:46:17 2017 No.3039562

>>3039513
>>3039526
>>3039537
>splint
Cock-up splints are great to wear at night, but you gotta wear them all the time for the first month or so. One with metal in it will last you a lifetime as long as you keep it clean.

Otherwise, my wrist healed up mostly from physical therapy. They slowly worked out scar tissue and massaged my forearm, then had me do stretches there and at home ( I do them without thinking throughout the day. As I'm driving, while I'm standing around, waiting for food in the microwave, before a fap, after a fap, etc etc). Apart from that, get some light weights (1 or 2 lbs) and do some simple wrist curls to build a little muscle just for support. Also don't forget supination exercises (get a hammer and rotate it as if you're hammering something sideways without moving your arm, just your wrist.)

>>3039538
If your finger tips are getting numb, do some finger stretches. Aka, make the asl hand shape for E, then extend your fingers and repeat like 10 times.

Get some good vitamins in you, B6 and B12 definitely help. Any sort of vitamin that helps joint flexibility. Take frequent breaks, but don't go on /ic/ during your break otherwise it'll take you out of the session.

This is coming from a guy who draws, paints, plays guitar, drums, piano, and bike-riding. CTS got me down for the first two months or so, but after that everything became habitual and the change in lifestyle actually helped tremendously.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 22:52:07 2017 No.3039569

>>3039537
I've always wanted to ask a med student this
I crack almost every joint in my body super habitually. My wrists, my elbows, fingers, knees, ankles, entire spine, sternum, toes. All of them, and it's gotten so bad I literally crack them all of the time.

Am I actually harming my body in any way? None of it hurts when I do pop a joint either and I don't lose feeling nor lose any function.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:02:12 2017 No.3039578 >>3039569 It came up during one of our tutor group sessions where a bunch of med students liked doing it and iirc - no evidence that it causes any harm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:05:58 2017 No.3039582 File: 909 KB, 1000x1000, nicky.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does it look good? honest critisism please

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:10:00 2017 No.3039586

>>3039569
*
And the studies that https://www.hopkinsarthritis.org/arthritis-news/knuckle-cracking-q-a-from/ on knuckle cracking probably refer to these studies:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21383216
Knuckle cracking not associated with osteoarthritis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2344210
Knuckle cracking is not associated with osteoarthritis could ↓ grip strength however the study authors are silly and didn't exclude people with carpal tunnel syndrome and past surgeries which is really silly.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27846331
Knuckle cracking is not associated with any osteoarthritis but this study describes two case reports (case reports are less reliable because the sample size is literally like one person) where a ligament was teared and a tendon got pulled of the groove http://www.mdedge.com/jfponline/article/114169/musculoskeletal-disorders/does-knuckle-popping-lead-arthritis/page/0/1

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:29:06 2017 No.3039597 File: 376 KB, 2592x2592, n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039582 here's my attempt yours looks pretty good

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:33:16 2017 No.3039602 File: 66 KB, 579x737, JPEG_20170627_232926-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039416 I tried drawing the same pic. I feed like you did a lot better than me

>>	Cool_Bad Tue Jun 27 23:36:57 2017 No.3039607 File: 631 KB, 1002x1508, gothoc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:43:07 2017 No.3039613 >>3039607 How are you so good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:43:54 2017 No.3039614 File: 935 KB, 1000x1000, 1498619158249.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039582 quick redline for you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:48:53 2017 No.3039616 File: 2.46 MB, 1500x1200, weee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] weeee

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:50:08 2017 No.3039617 File: 226 KB, 728x480, beg3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] -hand is too small -perspective is wrong -eyes are too big

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:50:58 2017 No.3039619 >>3039614 looking good

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:54:02 2017 No.3039623
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>>3037979
>>3037980

What books does somebody who's just starting art read for gesture? I know there's a sticky but Loomis doesn't help me much and I can't find a thread where self-taught artists talk about their favorite books. Also, are these any good? :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:57:28 2017 No.3039625 >>3039623 I'd suggest Proko's youtube channel. His app, Skelly, is really good too. It's a paid app, but it helped me a lot.

Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:58:30 2017 No.3039627

>>3038708
Sounds like my process anon. Except i don't give up on it even if it takes me months. These people saying you need to get to X point and move on....well, you'll just get to that same X point on the next one and not know what to do there either. I've learned more by sticking with it.....using dozens of references if i have to in order to figure things out. It's a slow process but it will hammer shit into your brain and over time it'll get easier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 27 23:59:30 2017 No.3039629 File: 500 KB, 720x1280, oneguy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel that I made ugly and plump a this guy, but maybe it's my imagination (I never like my drawing)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:02:25 2017 No.3039632 File: 368 KB, 2592x2592, c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039617 here is my

>>	Cool_Bad Wed Jun 28 00:05:18 2017 No.3039636 >>3039613 <3 thanks man

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:07:47 2017 No.3039637 File: 463 KB, 638x358, autist shares my pain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do i hold a pencil appropriately for small details/writing? currently I hold it similar to pic related and it gets painful very quickly.

>>	666petportraits Wed Jun 28 00:09:21 2017 No.3039639 File: 146 KB, 768x1024, 1498622042374.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039623 I agree with the above. You can also download vilppu and hampton's books

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:11:29 2017 No.3039640 >>3039629 literally just read keys to drawing

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:12:54 2017 No.3039641
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>>3039545
So I thought I might help you
First off, let me just say, that I had no idea you were working from a ref. And as such, I totally made an entirely different character and turned it into an entirely different bone structure. When I was doing the redline, I was solely basing it off of what I was looking at. Just bear in mind that I literally had no idea you were working from reference, lol. That was my mistake.

HOWEVER, I still have some good critique. First off, your eyes are slightly too far apart, but they are at the correct angle. The right brow needs to come down in order to match the eye-line. Or, actually, raising the left eyebrow might match the reference better.
Next, her cheekbone is way sharper and higher than the one you have. And look how much you rounded the far side of the face. In the ref, you could simplify that into one graceful line. Her nose it pointing a totally different direction than what you painted. Take a look, the bridge of her nose makes a nice tangent with the far wing. It creates this cool little curve underneath the nose. Actually looking closer, there's this super cool S curve underneath the nose that wraps around the mouth barrel, then fades as it curls around the closer nostril. Just be sure to check the angle that her nose is descending in comparison to yours. In your painting, you have made sure to include the entirety of both nostrils, but in doing so flattened the nose and created the illusion it was going somewhere else.
Your mouth is way too small and at the incorrect angle. And her chin in the ref is actually quite large desu. The lips don't curve away from the face in your painting as they should in the reference. I'm not going to bother with the hand, but just know it's wrong and tiny.

Overall, the eye angle is good, but everything else seems to be angled as her head was level with the ground. It's not, and I'd suggest constructing noses and mouths from ref/imagination at many angles.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:14:40 2017 No.3039644

>>3039418
Don't just draw to say you did it, analyze your drawings, spot your mistakes and weaknesses and go from there.

I used to just draw shit using references and post on social media to fish for compliments and honestly I did not improve much for years.

I still can't draw from imagination or properly use construction to make a decent drawing, but in the last few months I can see and feel my improvement, sometimes just because I decided to draw 10 boxes a day for a month.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:15:34 2017 No.3039646
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>>3039637
Beeatch, just hold that shit however feels good. If my wrinkly af hands can do it, so can anyone's.

Unless you don't have hands.
Or fingers.
Or are paralyzed.
-then you get a pass.

>>	666petportraits Wed Jun 28 00:16:35 2017 No.3039649 File: 63 KB, 584x472, tripodgrip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039637 Just use the standard tripod grip :3

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:17:08 2017 No.3039650 >>3039641 I'll try to do a more appropriate redline tomorrow if I remember

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:17:28 2017 No.3039652 File: 129 KB, 492x691, ice_screenshot_20170628-001409.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is not done yet

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:20:27 2017 No.3039657 File: 1002 KB, 1098x1164, Screen Shot 2017-06-27 at 11.18.47 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bird people... bird people... ... beeple?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:22:46 2017 No.3039659 >>3039652 looks neato

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:28:15 2017 No.3039666 File: 364 KB, 973x512, 1469026732682.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039582 Your eyes need to be moved down a tad I think. Mine https://webmshare.com/jzXjW

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:28:45 2017 No.3039667

>>3039625
I've seen some of his stuff, it's helpful but so obviously incomplete IMO, I'll look through more and see about his app. Thanks! :)
>>3039639
Wow thanks so much for this! Very insightful! Also I've read some of Hampton, I really like it, but Vilp looks REALLY promising. I'll look into more! <3

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:31:02 2017 No.3039670
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Trying to get better with gesture. Stuff still feels too stiff. One thing I struggle with is where to start from when sketching, I try and start from major curves such as the first guy's back (has a long curve from his leg to his hand.)

I also struggle with depicting weight I feel, making them look off.

Any feedback is much appreciated.

Apologies in advance for poor camera quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:34:42 2017 No.3039674 File: 108 KB, 598x845, IMG_7632.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I draw gesture?

>>	666petportraits Wed Jun 28 00:40:08 2017 No.3039683 >>3039670 >>3039674 EVERYONE WATCH THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:41:05 2017 No.3039686 >>3039683 Already did. I must be retarded because it didn't help me.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:47:27 2017 No.3039695

>>3039582
>>3039666

Holy shit. It's just a front-on view. The head is literally like a rectangle. Can you guys seriously not draw a rectangle with a centerline at the same angle she's tilting her head?
Are you guys really struggling this hard to match angles too? Are you guys incapable of literally lifting the wacom pen and comparing angles right in front of you? It's literally all there. You just have to measure and be super analytical for the first few times to really understand the relationship between features and forms of the face.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:48:27 2017 No.3039696

>>3039683
same as >>3039686

I've actually watched it numerous times. All I took from it was don't worry too much about proportion, it's more about capturing the movement and general flow of the subject and depicting a believable and fluid idea of what they are doing physically.

Guess I missed something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 00:50:45 2017 No.3039699 >>3039659 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 01:01:44 2017 No.3039707 File: 974 KB, 1574x1349, Study 6 27.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	666petportraits Wed Jun 28 01:02:55 2017 No.3039709 File: 176 KB, 500x796, beeple.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039657 Here's your problem, not enough zoomis

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 01:05:23 2017 No.3039715

>>3039707
fix the right leg. you made it really linear when in ref. theres a soft curve. also, the leg on the stool is off slightly, and the gap between the foot and the right leg is smaller in the ref.

theres more smaller things i could nitpick but i won't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 01:06:54 2017 No.3039717 >>3039707 Use only 3 values and no blending. Also create shadow-shapes. The reflected light is messing you up, so just consider everything in shadow a single, even value.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 01:09:40 2017 No.3039720 >>3039709 dat booty

>>	666petportraits Wed Jun 28 01:10:49 2017 No.3039721 >>3039720 are you fat shaming me? post your work!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 01:13:08 2017 No.3039725 >>3039721 I'm the op, ya fat-bootied schmuck!

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 01:14:32 2017 No.3039727
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>>3039717
Hopefully this helps.
I'm on a phone so the values and shapes suck ass.

The cross hatches indicate good places to introduce a very slight soft edge to indicate turning form.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 01:54:14 2017 No.3039747 File: 365 KB, 1366x768, 1478562194551.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039707 This is how I'd render it, painting on top of yours.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 02:01:16 2017 No.3039751 >>3039715 >>3039717 >>3039727 >>3039747 thx chums

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 02:20:52 2017 No.3039761
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>>3037975
First time I ever tried drawing anything in my life other than stick figures. Is there any hope for me to get good if I keep practicing or is it some talent you're born with?

Sorry for NSFW image, no spoiler option.

>>	666petportraits Wed Jun 28 02:24:02 2017 No.3039764 >>3039761 sorry, but you can't fix bad taste

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 02:26:00 2017 No.3039767 >>3039764 >not liking petite asians getting wrecked

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 02:38:34 2017 No.3039775 >>3038593 Who is your reference? It's a bit scratchy but good, I like the lines. Just keep consciously focusing on the lines until it becomes normal to draw clean lines, try to draw form the shoulder and arm, not the wrist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 02:39:11 2017 No.3039777 File: 50 KB, 745x682, 20170627_stuff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I forced myself to draw something before bed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 02:44:27 2017 No.3039780 >>3039777 that's a nice hand, not so sure about the arm there though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 03:27:56 2017 No.3039799 >>3039775 I used a 3d model from sketchfab, the pose is altered and the head i drew mostly from imagination. >>3039190 looking back i might have drawn the ribcage to big, that might be the reason why she looks to thin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 03:53:42 2017 No.3039815 >>3038255 someone respond to this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:00:26 2017 No.3039820 >>3039777 How are you so good anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:12:58 2017 No.3039825 File: 416 KB, 962x1403, Kaka.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:18:42 2017 No.3039828 File: 56 KB, 316x202, crit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CRIT MY FEET

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:19:41 2017 No.3039830 >>3039828 you don't need critique do more studies of feet, be self-analytical, and you'll realize you don't need this website for anything

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:23:35 2017 No.3039833 >>3039830 answer the question (and expand on it) then if you dont want to crit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:39:55 2017 No.3039846 File: 21 KB, 297x354, Helpfullcritique.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3039828

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:44:56 2017 No.3039851
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I pretty much started learning the fundamentals of drawing digitally a year ago. I've done a few projects after that but now I want to get back to basics, but this time on paper because I've been told that good skills on paper transfer to great skills digitally. So I want to start doing some figure drawings and still life studies on paper.
Shading techniques on paper don't quite "click" in my mind though. Does anyone have a good tutorial or book purely on shading techniques I can apply?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 04:59:30 2017 No.3039856 >>3039562 Thanks a lot Anon, any good videos or sites that teach proper hand streaches, I found a few online but don't know if those are proper for someone who draws/writes a lot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 05:02:38 2017 No.3039858 Can anyone crit this turd >>3039602 please? I know it's off and bad but I don't know how

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 06:24:19 2017 No.3039902 >>3039695 post work

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 06:27:33 2017 No.3039905 >>3039410 Thanks, I suppose that makes sense. More gesture and construction studies it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 06:50:34 2017 No.3039930 File: 214 KB, 752x1000, ss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037975 >3 hours send help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 06:52:20 2017 No.3039936 File: 66 KB, 622x979, 20170628_064948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Goddammit why am i still symbol drawing so fucking bad. I hate myself for not improving enough. Im so mad AHHHHHHHH FUCK

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 06:53:32 2017 No.3039939 >>3039936 In case it too shitty to tell, this was the reference used >>3039666

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 06:58:45 2017 No.3039941 >>3039936 Draw it a few times and then try to trace it if it doesn't work.Continuously flipping the canvas and erasing the bad parts also helps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 07:17:18 2017 No.3039950 File: 174 KB, 1135x1025, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037979 I know my feet are not good... and I won't show the atrocity of my hands not until after I start to pratcie them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 07:29:44 2017 No.3039961 File: 447 KB, 1000x563, IC6282017.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037979 I know my feet and hands are not good I'm gonna start to practice them this weekend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 07:44:53 2017 No.3039968 File: 58 KB, 603x535, 1495911668715.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037979 Still not good enough but I'm improving gradually. https://webmshare.com/0KGBx

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 07:45:49 2017 No.3039969 >>3039961 It's still way easier to draw on SAI that Photoshop. Trying to draw on PS is like trying to stab out my eyes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 08:01:34 2017 No.3039978 >>3039969 Is it really? Master Collection was free cause of school and I don't wanna spend more money after the tablet since I just started at the start of june.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 08:03:11 2017 No.3039979 >>3039978 I posted the crack (from cgpersia) I'm using for SAI 2 beta a few threads ago. A cracked version of SAI original has been uploaded everywhere, even deviantart and tumblr.

>>	NoseBro Wed Jun 28 08:05:59 2017 No.3039980 >>3039858 you have a fucking miracle redline, just digitally overlay them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 08:11:25 2017 No.3039982 >>3039980 got a link to the discord? one in the sticky is dead

>>	NoseBro Wed Jun 28 08:24:44 2017 No.3039987 >>3039982 if youre talking about the one im in, i fixed the link.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 08:33:46 2017 No.3039993 >>3039987 did you update the sticky? because there isnt a link to the /ic/ discord in there right now

>>	NoseBro Wed Jun 28 08:34:48 2017 No.3039994 >>3039980 not me

NoseBro Wed Jun 28 08:36:39 2017 No.3039997

>>3039993
the unofficial official i/c discord was removed because of moderator abuse. IE the lead admin appointed a mod who kicked people out of fun and was unresponsive to this matter.

"Communities who fail to have consistent daily activity will be removed. Communities who fail to uphold good moderatorship practice will be removed."

Is the standard I hold the discords to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 08:40:36 2017 No.3040003 >>3039997 fucking lmao, why does some random namenoteventripfag who isnt even good have more power than the moderator of the discord named "/ic/"

NoseBro Wed Jun 28 08:45:29 2017 No.3040005

>>3040003
You can read my philosophy in the bottom of the sticky. It has been absent for 2 months and they have not requested it to be put back. You can always access it yourself if you have an in. The community is big enough and will not fail, though one of its lifelines has failed. I cannot in good faith promote a community where the admins are malevolent.

The only reason the unofficial official i/c discord got big was because it was first come first served a year back. The majority of the moderators don't even draw anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 08:50:21 2017 No.3040010 File: 262 KB, 960x1280, 2017062808272400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 09:45:45 2017 No.3040051 File: 47 KB, 678x500, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I fucking suck

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 09:55:19 2017 No.3040059 >>3040051 The hell? Do you draw once a month?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 09:57:16 2017 No.3040061 >>3040051 I wonder what mine will be line once I reach my first year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 09:59:51 2017 No.3040064 >>3040059 I drew for about a month in 2016, and two months in 2017. Even with just that I should be much better. This is give up level shit though, right? Beyond not going to make it as a pro, I won't even make it long enough to enjoy myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:00:05 2017 No.3040065 >>3039902 I am this guy >>3039641 Fuck off bro

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:01:35 2017 No.3040066 >>3040065 >i am this guy kek

>>	NoseBro Wed Jun 28 10:04:25 2017 No.3040070 >>3040064 you drew 3 months out of 2 years and want to go pro. Are you fucking retardeD?

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:05:56 2017 No.3040076

>>3040065
Also accurately measuring angles and proportions is not hard. A lot of beginners just don't use it because either they aren't patient enough or they just don't understand how it works.

All I'm saying is that if beginners can learn this skill easily, you will improve much faster than if you're slowing drawing spheres and loomis heads.
Not knocking on loomis, but being able to closely examine a person's face and to recognize certain relationships between features, in order to represent that specific person on paper, is just as important as everything else.

If you aren't utilizing this fundamental skill, then it will take you much longer to improve. I'm not even joking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:08:25 2017 No.3040079 >>3040070 I meant I'll never make it as a pro even if I started working my ass off, relax.

>>	NoseBro Wed Jun 28 10:12:03 2017 No.3040084 >>3040079 thats not accurate either, assuming 4 hours a day almost anyone can make it within 6 years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:14:16 2017 No.3040087 >>3038000 its annoying because you're doing it wrong. you're not even capturing the poses correctly

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:16:22 2017 No.3040089 >>3038218 Your art is very stylized so you cant ask vague shit like that. if the person in the red is a woman, the make the face look like a woman.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:17:16 2017 No.3040090 >>3040051 Trace the face in order to see which part is wrong and try grid method three times on your next face drawings, then try to draw with no guides.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:17:26 2017 No.3040091 >>3038248 study more breasts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:18:28 2017 No.3040093 >>3040051 question. are you using a reference?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:21:29 2017 No.3040096 >>3040093 unfortunately, yes.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:23:08 2017 No.3040097

>>3039761
Nobody is born with talent, its just some people are faster than others because they have the ability to understand it better.

I suggest you try drawing an easier picture, because that picture has so many advanced variables that will just set you up for failure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:23:34 2017 No.3040098 >>3040065 Faces are not rectangles they are heptagons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:27:05 2017 No.3040102 >>3040096 show me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:30:28 2017 No.3040105 >>3039258 very blocky, round out your linework more, you dont have enough depth. also very stiff

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:31:04 2017 No.3040107 File: 148 KB, 897x650, quantum-trudeau.jpg.size.custom.crop.897x650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3040102

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:39:01 2017 No.3040113 >>3040098 Kek nice comeback

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:40:11 2017 No.3040115 File: 1.35 MB, 1271x7339, 96e2feea6bbf8e7ce6646fcc04456d29a49408d92007e7d7876ea20d518b1f62.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3040107 read this image top to bottom

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:42:09 2017 No.3040118 >>3040115 I've done that a few times, and I've read most of keys to drawing and DOTRSOTB. I'm just hopeless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 10:59:39 2017 No.3040134 >>3040118 Just trace a few times until you get it and think about why you are making thoae shapes.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 11:10:16 2017 No.3040143
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I was out today and tried to draw and I failed miserably, see attached image. I would really like to become better at drawing landscapes and environments in general. I feel that there are so many things that I need to get better at but I simply do not know how and where to start. Please help me!

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 11:14:15 2017 No.3040147
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Can anyone recommend a book that deals with foreshortening from imagination? Or a place with just foreshortening references? I'm really struggling putting perspective into my figures

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 11:40:08 2017 No.3040180 File: 1.00 MB, 922x921, Study resized.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] looking for some general crit/adivce

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 11:43:59 2017 No.3040183

>>3040147
Really study certain forms on the human body. Practice drawing, say, the isolated form of the deltoid from many different perspectives.
Secondly understand how perspective affects forms. Things get visually smaller, but they aren't actually smaller in reality. Things also begin to overlap when foreshortened.

Thirdly understand you don't have to draw every single muscular form. Know that things get visually overlapped and thus creates a new silhouette in comparison to the silhouette of that same thing in a more basic view. Aka you don't have to draw every single feature/muscle

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 11:45:40 2017 No.3040186

>>3040118
If you ACTUALLY read it your drawing wouldnt look like that.

Because drawing it piece by piece would create landmarks in the face for you to space it correctly.
BUT in your drawing there are NO LANDMARKS, just a ton of empty space.
You didnt even capture the shading

READ IT.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 11:48:47 2017 No.3040191

>>3040180
Your colors are too desaturated.
you need to work on the nose more.
Do not use solid colors for eyes.

The entire head is tilted back but you drew the face straight on, hence why the nose is too long the eyes are too low, the mouth is too low and the ears are too low.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 11:49:00 2017 No.3040193 >>3040180 Stop symbol painting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 12:32:54 2017 No.3040243 >>3039627 the point is that if you're struggling with something it's better to study that seperately than spend hours trying to polish shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 12:41:02 2017 No.3040264 >>3040183 Thank you anon!! I don't think I've actually separately drawn other body parts apart from hands and feet for some reason. I will save this advice, thank you!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 12:58:06 2017 No.3040287 >>3039637 at arms length only holding the very end of the pencil

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 13:14:56 2017 No.3040303 >>3040147 post more?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 13:56:07 2017 No.3040350 File: 1.92 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_3462.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3040303 I think that other anon is right, might just be a case of separating the body and practicing drawing that way. Everything I draw is just really really flat

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 13:59:28 2017 No.3040355 File: 42 KB, 653x739, whathaveidone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i guess there is no hope for me after all

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 14:01:58 2017 No.3040360 >>3040355 It's only the first step anon, keep going

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 15:03:10 2017 No.3040448 File: 88 KB, 260x255, 4e2d0ec3-4382-4024-807f-ec59231c5e1f.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3040089 >Make the face look like a woman I don't understand what you mean by that. Do you mean adding eyelashes. Any way thanks for your thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 15:09:06 2017 No.3040453 File: 1.36 MB, 750x1334, IMG_8690.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this as bad as I think it is. Tfw specially retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 15:21:19 2017 No.3040465 File: 338 KB, 800x1000, the sun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any feedback?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 15:22:36 2017 No.3040466 File: 2.76 MB, 3024x5376, IMAG2316.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The grind never ends

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 15:54:00 2017 No.3040500 >>3040355 If it had Picasso's signature on it, it could have sold for millions. Art is a subjective meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 16:17:25 2017 No.3040524 Bampity bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 17:06:48 2017 No.3040576 File: 279 KB, 1255x1250, 6282017.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3037982 Used SAI 2 beta I don't really feel a difference even at 10x10 since I'm a pleb still.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 18:06:23 2017 No.3040669 >>3040191 thanks, yeah that's what I thought. The nose should be shortened, mouth moved up, eyes moved up... all as you say. And do you have any recommendations for brushes to paint eyelashes in procreate? >>3040193 meme answer, but thanks anyway

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 19:20:26 2017 No.3040759
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trying to get better at rendering (and making better use of hard vs soft edges as well as color)

i tried to get the hard, shiny, 'iridescent look of the beetle from the ref ('ocala deep digger beetle' on google) i especially need help with that around the highlight areas on the thorax. there seem to be so many minor changes in hue to keep track of.

also, tips for improving workflow? as in, proper steps for rendering? rn i fill in dark colors and improvise from there but that doesn't feel efficient

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 19:37:09 2017 No.3040776 >>3040759 I don't think you belong in /beg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 19:44:23 2017 No.3040785 File: 215 KB, 800x800, helmet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3040776 oh woo it took a year and a half too

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 28 20:19:26 2017 No.3040839 >>3040785 Guess I'll hit you with the Blog? too.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 20:56:17 2017 No.3040869
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Retarded question that i'll probably get bullied for:

Why is the side that the light would be touching be darker? Surely the other side of the disk thing would be darker as it's sunk inwards and hidden from the light? That little triangle with the arrows that he drawed is this light source.

Anonymous Wed Jun 28 21:49:45 2017 No.3040929
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>>3040869
that only happens because of linework, as the concentric circles get closer together it looks like a thicker, darker line. in a rendered piece that wouldn't happen.

u should also consider that black-and-white lineart often sacrifices accurate shading for clarity with regards to edges.

>>3040839
doublejumpcancel.tumblr.com

updates are sporadic and it's mostly reblogs, i'm working to change that tho :D

or instagram.com/doublejumpcancel

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 29 01:35:24 2017 No.3041084 Can anyone recommend me lectures on mouth and eyes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 29 04:02:02 2017 No.3041189 >>3040465 No one? Pls help with skirt

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 29 15:57:01 2017 No.3041824 >>3040929 thank u for ur help

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