How to make anime heads

[Anonymous No.3030982]

>Watching Reiq's video on heads
>Tries to use his method but can't properly get value out it, it seems always outta place
>Lately stop by a Proko video on head
>He uses the same method as Reiq
>Says "its a loomy thing"
>mfw been avoiding Loomis all this time but got bamboozed anyways

[Anonymous No.3030986]

>>3030982
>They always end up looking like masks

Just end me already

[Anonymous No.3030998]

>>3030986
They have no eyes you dumbo.

[Anonymous No.3032103]

>>3030986

Draw eyes and then show how they are recessed into the face by suggesting the bridge of the nose and the eyebrows

t. someone who has been drawing for 5 months and still has no idea what the heck is going on

[Anonymous No.3032110]

Begin with drawing the faces from the front, not at difficult angles. You need to get the basic placement down before rotating, don't pointlessly frustrate yourself.

[Anonymous No.3032124]

>>3030982
>>3030986
After you draw the eyes, erase part of an eye to draw the nose, draw the ears, erase them to draw the hair, and then vomit some paint all over it, you'll barely notice whatever mistake you think you are making.

[Anonymous No.3032839]

>>3030998
Here you go, decided to rush them all out since I woke up from the worst nightmare ever since 2015 but it ended up taking longer than I expected ( 40 min) gonna try those advices tomorrow

[Anonymous No.3032849]

>>3030982
>>3030986
Your mark-making is very sloppy, and you don't seem to have a clear understanding of the shapes you're drawing.

If you can't get primitives right, then construction won't do much for your drawing. It's like trying to draw a straight line with a crooked ruler.

[Sage No.3032967]

>>3032839
yes it's as >>3032849 says you have no understanding of what it is you're not only drawing but doing to begin with, and i don't mean that in a "crush your dreams" or "cruel joke at your expense" kind of way. You simply don't understand how to think in 3D and then transfer that onto a 2D surface.

What you are doing here is essentially "symbol" drawing which boils down to "i'm drawing this line because i've seen that others draw this line and it looks good when they do it so i'll do it too." The cure for what ails you is
>The Sticky

[Anonymous No.3032973]

>>3032103
Can you post your work? I only started trying to learn how to draw a week ago and my faces are fucked, would like an idea of where I might be in that long.

[Anonymous No.3033022]

I got the perfect video tutorial for this exact thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Oc303iTqQ

[Anonymous No.3033415]

>>3032839
Show us your work with a pencil sketching with a pen is pretty fucking hard

[Anonymous No.3033696]

>>3032967
>read the sticky braindead answer

[Anonymous No.3034890]

>>3032839
Give us a update you faggot don't die like that

[Anonymous No.3034930]

>>3032849
This
don't to learn heads until you can draw boxes in perspective

[Anonymous No.3034993]

>>3030982
>>3030986
>>3032839
whats your IQ?

[Anonymous No.3035381]

Not OP here, but I've been grinding heads too. Pic related is the best I can do (from imagination)

Any tips?

[Anonymous No.3035476]

>>3035381
How do I get as good as you?

[Anonymous No.3035481]

>>3035476
Not sure if serious but I've been looking up stuff from anime artists, then I try to break down heads with perspective, and also grind a bunch without reference in an attempt to internalize. In the beginning my proportions were shit but I kept tweaking with each head. Don't know if I'm doing it right

[Anonymous No.3035483]

As someone a bit further along in the anime grind, I find doing close studies of an artist's work to be pretty informative. I don't mean trying to do an exact copy, but instead trying to glean the general idea behind each individual part of a drawing (studies of the eyes, lips, hair, etc. in isolation) and then doing some rough sketches of the whole thing, focusing on matching the proportions.

Also just general practice in making smooth, consistent lines, which can only come from time and muscle memory.

[Anonymous No.3035486]

Kids should read Scholastic
Also if you don't read the sticky or get used to doing things you find annoying you will never progress in live and will end up a sad, lonely, shell of a person.
Mebe don't even try heads. do something easier. like squares.
After a week you can try circles.

[NAPPA No.3035488]

>>3035483
>MB
did you learn basic and stuff before anime?

[Anonymous No.3035490]

>>3035486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAtmiqbR6_M

[Anonymous No.3035491]

did you learn basic and fundamentals before going into drawing anime.

[DM No.3035494]

It's really difficult redlining highly stylized drawings, probably impossible without just making a totally new drawing and I don't draw anime. Perspective is big, learn to draw in 3D and get your properties down. Anime is difficult when it comes to proportions so the rules are a lot different from real life but you need a foundation first.

[Anonymous No.3035495]

>>3035494
If you have to make this many caveats for a redline, maybe it's better to just not post it at all.

[DM No.3035499]

>>3035495
Shows someone is taking an interest and is putting in effort with them instead of standing on the sidelines.
I also have no stipulations so I don't know what you're talking about because the only thing you said that made sense was to not post redlines.

[Anonymous No.3035500]

>>3035494
Are the eyes closer in your redline because you had the one-eye width space in mind?

[DM No.3035506]

>>3035500
Something like that. The nose seems to be non existent in this which is fine, anime noses are seen all the time like that. Realistic proportions don't seem to work (big surprise).

[Anonymous No.3035520]

>>3035506
Maybe I'm wrong but the original still appears more accurate as far as the eye spacing is concerned

[DM No.3035525]

>>3035520
I agree. It probably compensates for the lack of definition regarding the nose.

[Anonymous No.3035527]

>>3035494
this is honestly a really depressing attempt. this is /ic/ i guess. terrible at art without any self awareness.

[DM No.3035531]

>>3035527
Then do it better.

[Anonymous No.3035554]

>>3033696
No seriously, he should be doing the exercises in the sticky.

[Anonymous No.3035564]

>>3035531

[Anonymous No.3035567]

>>3035483
I love these

[DM No.3035577]

>>3035564
Not sure how terrible the jump was from point A to B.

[Anonymous No.3035583]

>>3035567
I love you

[DM No.3035595]

>>3035564
& If you can't polish a turd then wtf is this?

[Anonymous No.3035598]

>>3035595
polishing turd is not going to change turd.

>>3035564
made it better

[Anonymous No.3035607]

>>3035577
I don't like to talk about redlines, but if you can't see a big difference between your drawing and >>3035564 then you have a problem. In fact your drawing is technically weaker than the original drawing you're redlining, with poorer alignment, flat features, thoughtless line quality, and bad design.

That may not change the validity of your advice. But there's a great gulf between your theory and application.

[Anonymous No.3035609]

>>3035595
the original drawing was better than either of your redlines btw
i redlined your failure of a drawing rather than the other anons. he actually got it kinda right.

[Anonymous No.3035614]

>>3034890
Fuck off, I didnt do shit today this is another insonia drawing

>>3034993
129, but that never mattered I was only decent at piano but after 2013 my skills detetoriated

I know it looks like shit but I still feel bad by ruining even more when I make the face, the bright side is this only took 20min

[Anonymous No.3035626]

>>3030982
>>3030986
Oh sweetie did nobody tell you that you have to study some fundamentals before diving into specific subject matter?
You construct your heads with tiny, wobbly lines and zero knowledge of perspective and you wonder why the heads turn out tiny, wobbly and with bad perspective.

A logical conclusion is to practice perspective and line confidence and THEN worry about drawing a head.

[Anonymous No.3035627]

>>3035614
Well... at least you drew the hands.

[Anonymous No.3035629]

>>3035577
>>3035595
Have some respect, the guy took the time out of their busy day to completely humiliate you and your drawing, the worst thing you can do is fight back at this point.

[Anonymous No.3035634]

I think where you place the eyeline on your circle matters a great deal. Personally I've found if you put a line about 2/3 down the circle to mark the top of the eye, then halfway between that and the chin is the bottom of the nose. The more "moe" stylized the character the smaller the face is I find.
Probably not in any position to be giving advice though.

[Anonymous No.3035636]

>>3033696
WAHHH HE TOLD ME TO PUT IN EFFORT STUDYING THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE ARTISTIC PROFESSION

never going to make it with your dagger chinned faces anon.

[Anonymous No.3035638]

>>3035491
not him but i can answer that for him

no.

or better yet, let his drawings answer that for you.

"No."

[Anonymous No.3035648]

>>3035554
thank you.

OP and people like OP want to come around asking for advice, and when we point them to the sticky, they throw a fuss like a spoiled child. You don't get to have moderately decent skills in ANYTHING if you aren't willing to put in hours of effort amounting to both efforts drawing and efforts studying the prospects of approaching and cultivating your skills.

when folks tell you READ THE STICKY that isn't a cop out, or uninspired answer, it's literally people telling you, "Your art/skills are so flooded with issues that it would be akin to cut an entire lawn with a knife advising you in your current state." We point you to the Sticky OP because you legitimately suck. You are a legitimate beginner and your ego and arrogance clearly has never experienced the crushing blow s before that teach your humility and push you toward discipline.

>TL;DR OP quit being a brat and do what literally everyone in this thread should tell you which is go read the fuckin sticky ffs. Start with "MUH BORING" line fundamentals and learning to think and see things in 3D via drawing spheres, boxes, etc. Otherwise you're just wasting our time and yours.

[Anonymous No.3035655]

>>3035626
>oh sweetie posting

this is more effective than any harsh criticism could ever manage. Bravo

[Anonymous No.3035656]

>>3035614
>mfw I draw even worse than OP
STOP THE BULLY OR IM NEVER POSTING MY WORK

[Anonymous No.3035661]

>>3035648
The thing is people come here to get intuitive advice, if people wanted to listen to some guy talking technical stuff you could search a shitload of tutorials, videos and podcasts on the internet, people often do this to get some interactive response, more direct to their drawings, thats why saying ''hurr durr read sticky'' to every single person is not helpful, specially when we already are a slow board.
Working on proportions/perspective/anatomy/basic shapes can be applied to any artist in any work ever, thats why it isn't also a very insightful advice specially when people threw it out with sheer ignorance.
Sometimes people just need to listen what they already know from someone they know, sometimes even people on 4chan do the trick no need to act so smug over virtually nothing eventually the thread will die it out who even knows if anon is gonna make it or listen to our advices.

>>3035614
Finally OP, hope you the very best and keep practicing, for someone who never drew before your drawings have decent ideas to it, they just need to be refined.

[Anonymous No.3035694]

>>3035656
shit this gave me a laugh. thank you Art Wimp

since you gave me a hearty laugh and i like you i'll make a basic map for you to level up. think of it as a quest list of sorts.

Begin with the sticky, it's a jumble of wtf info overload so here you go.

>(BORING BOAR SLAYING QUEST)
1) Start with learning gestures and line quality, and 3D forms like boxes etc.
2) head into learning proportions and foreshortening techniques with those 3D forms

>(Baby's First Fetch Quest)
1) start to study the human body. This means body proportions, and anatomy. Don't fall into perfectionism here, just take it at a comfortable pace. Study each piece of the human body. Give each part it's own spotlight in your quest.
2)Practice combinations of BOAR and FETCH

>(Your first Dragon Quest)
from here on the main objective points aren't easy to list, but it basically extends to whatever your own personal interests align with. Do you like landscapes? Learn them. Do you like to color? you should probably learn them anyways. Is perspective really fun for you to do? Learn forced perspectives. You get the point. If you can finish the beginner levels. you'll already be better than OP and like 60%-70% of /ic/ and tumblr and FA and DA.

you just have to keep... drawing.

[Anonymous No.3035702]

>>3035661
i would absolutely agree with you, if it were for an artist at your own level "never give up" Anon, because you are at a level in which you can focus on certain aspects to get better at because you have enough skill and knowledge of fundamentals to work with in order for someone to give you advice. True advice that will stick with you and register.

OP is not nearly in this boat. Hell he's not even in the fuckin' lake.

Using a whittling metaphor, you've got your stick and knife already, anon, and you've been whittling away at your stick for some time already. OP however, doesn't even have a stick yet. He's just got a knife and he knows how to make the knife cut things, but he has no idea how to make the knife carve things into shapes and into something of actual value.

In more jargon terms, OP is just another symbol drawing fag, and you're a decently skilled fag (if that is your drawing there). You have fundamental understandings. OP doesn't. So you can cut the sentimental "they just need intuitive advice" bullshit and hand holding, because it actively holds back people like OP. Someone at the skill level of OP doesn't need someone to hold their hand, they need to know THE VERY BASICS first, and that doesn't need hand holding that needs actual effort to pour into studying it. Because it's exactly as it's described. BASIC. If OP can't master or learn BASICS on their own without "intuitive advice" do you think they're going to learn the medium level things? Don't kid yourself-- because if they can't they won't ever make it; period.
OP needs to be spurred like a horse into pursuing actual knowledge because he quite clearly knows NOTHING except that dragging a pencil across a paper, similar to how other people drag their pencils, makes somewhat similar images. That's it.

[Anonymous No.3035706]

>>3035634
these are goooooood!

[Anonymous No.3035760]

>>3035381
Use a thicker lead or charcoal when sketching. It'll save you a lot of frustration. Thin lines are for finish/artists who have good control.

Your construction should be more fully realized. It doesn't need to be more complex, but it should be more or less completed shapes, with 3 sides if they're cubes. Drawing only a bunch of parallel lines that exist independently of each other isn't much help when judging relationships. Construction is supposed to compensate for weakness in that area until you can do it intuitively.

[Anonymous No.3035864]

>>3035760
Thanks anon, this is great

[DM No.3035915]

>>3035629
I'm not fighting, never was. I DO see a difference in the quality. I understand what happened. I never claimed to be better BUT, I'd rather learn from someone who isn't that great at art then an asshat who's infinitely better.

Yes I learned something. Was it constructive? Well, I can see how he changed my piece to his. Cleaner lines, solid form, solid shapes in the features.

Is this humiliating? No, because I've already taken an attitude towards humility although many of you misinterpreted my redline as a holier than thou move.

[Anonymous No.3035944]

>>3035915
"id rather learn from someone who isnt great at art instead of from a more talented poopyhead"
man keks

[DM No.3036020]

>>3035944
I came to draw anime heads. Not compare who's anime dick looks better and why.

I'll take what I like and leave the rest. Right now I'm considering what tools are available to me. since my digital brush doesn't automatically smooth itself when making a line it appears that my line quality is lacking. Tues are still difficult, could be time to move into the next.

[Anonymous No.3036042]

>>3036020
Use thinner lines
eyebrows and eyelashes are inconsistent
her neck is too thick, making her jawline look receded
you guessed her ears
also stop chicken scratching, if you want to thicken your lines go over them completely in one stroke

[Anonymous No.3036056]

>>3036020
>my digital brush doesn't automatically smooth itself
Try SAI?

[Anonymous No.3036094]

>>3036020
Your placements are actually not that off, it's the jawline that's weird because you drew the head and neck from different perspectives.

[Anonymous No.3036098]

>>3036094
ears are still off mate

[Anonymous No.3036099]

>>3035564
looks much better

[Anonymous No.3036100]

>>3036098
True, I should've placed it higher.

[Anonymous No.3036110]

>>3030982
i think you should better study references of anime figurines heads and use the design doll app and study the 3d head

[DM No.3036122]

>>3036056
Thanks, I was using a trial version of sketchbook which is terrible now.

Played with the line tools
The eyes still bug me

[Anonymous No.3036578]

i'm a little drunk so lets see how i do. i was bored so i want to try some Anime art for shits and giggle.
(never did it before)

did i do the face wrong?
(will draw hair later if i remember after i get sober)
redline

[Anonymous No.3036634]

>>3036578
Try getting some more lower jaw in there.

[Anonymous No.3036704]

>>3036634
does it look anime like?

[Anonymous No.3036706]

>>3035760
amazing
is there anywhere I can find more of your art?

[Anonymous No.3036729]

>>3036704
No it needs spiky blue hair.

[Anonymous No.3036767]

>>3036578
make the eyes the same size

[Anonymous No.3036792]

>>3035554
What exercises in the sticky? All I see is the "draw the picasso picture as best you can"

[Anonymous No.3036925]

Just don't draw anime.
Draw realistic faces until you get good with them.
Then abstract from that.

You can't realy learn this bottom-up, you have to learn it top-down. or you will always suck.

[Anonymous No.3036964]

>>3036925
Typical armchair BS you hear on this board. Ignore it. If you want to get good at anime, draw anime.

[Anonymous No.3036967]

>>3036925
You should be practicing them simultaneously you stupid fucking retard so you know exactly what realistic elements you need and what you don't. You don't need to master realism or even get good at it to be good at drawing animu heads. You just need to have an understanding of basic proportions and construction, the rest is stylization.

[Anonymous No.3037209]

>>3036964
>>3036967

I bet you guys suck at drawing anime.

[Anonymous No.3037219]

>>3036964
>>3036967

I bet you guys suck at drawing anime.

There is a reason pic related only happens to anime drawings. Never to people drawing realistic stuff.

>You should be practicing them simultaneously

Ofc no reason to call me stupid you enormous faggot. But drawing realistic comes first.

You learn alot more about anime by drawing realistically then you learn about anime by drawing anime. And yes you need at least to get good at it. There are no good anime artists that are not also good at drawing realism..

[Anonymous No.3037221]

>>3037219
forgot the pic. Thats most likely you.

[Anonymous No.3037297]

>>3036792
http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Fun%20WIth%20a%20Pencil.pdf

[Hitler No.3039145]

>>3036767
like this?

[Anonymous No.3039155]

>>3030982
>>3030986
Your construction lines are all off, try drawing construction lines from reference, your construction lines have to be accurate or they're fucking pointless. don't just draw them willy nilly.
You also sound like a complete beginner, working through some beginner books (like loomis you mong) would help you greatly. You need guidance

[Anonymous No.3039159]

>>3035494
this sucks man, look how flat that face is, come on dude i know you can tell this isn't good
even worse since you're giving a critique of someone else

[Anonymous No.3039247]

>>3039145
It's still pretty lopsided on the whole. Flipping it will help you see what's off.

Front views are tough, try some 3/4 views too.

[Hitler No.3039250]

>>3039247
thanks i think i see whats wrong, but i need to ask does the face look animeish enough?

[Anonymous No.3039322]

>>3039250
Only your heart can tell you that. If you get the same feeling from looking at it as you do looking at anime, then it's animeish enough.

[Anonymous No.3042041]

penis