/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3005725]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

OLD THREAD: >>3003660

[Anonymous No.3005726]

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[Anonymous No.3005731]

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[Anonymous No.3005733]

[Anonymous No.3005744]

>>3005725

[Anonymous No.3005746]

>>3005732
could you not have picked ANYTHING gayer

[Anonymous No.3005749]

>>3005746
Be careful what you ask for...

[Anonymous No.3005753]

>>3005749
YAMERO

[Anonymous No.3005754]

>>3005725
What do you see? I did it in a sort of trance,I don't know where the shapes come from,they just sorta flow into the paper. Most of my work is like this and weird so I haven't shown many people.

[Anonymous No.3005796]

>>3005746
imagine its a girl. now you have visual library for lewd scenes

[Anonymous No.3005815]

>>3005746
I spy with my little eye someone who hasn't been on /fit/

[Anonymous No.3005841]

>>3005726
More models like this please! The pretty (possibly photoshopped) faces are fine, but this kind of wrinkly old sculptured face is so much more expressive imo.

[Anonymous No.3005843]

>>3005841
God demnit why does it allways flip the ficture!?

[Anonymous No.3005847]

>>3005843
because you posted from a phone where the default screen mode is portrait not landscape

[Anonymous No.3005848]

>>3005727

[Anonymous No.3005850]

>>3005848
just overlayed my own outlines over the original, and looks like I'm still pretty far off in some areas. The right eye especially :/

[Anonymous No.3005853]

>>3005848
>>3005850

>Jaw is too narrow
>Symbol drawing in the eyes
>Nose is too wide, watch the symbol drawing
>nose and mouth line is offcenter the vertical center line
>lips are too flat, study 3d lip anatomy better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0vWyKyYv4o

Good job, keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.3005855]

>>3005853
P.S. Follow this video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq3aHSuKRyg

[Anonymous No.3005861]

Requesting rendering tutorials.

[Anonymous No.3005862]

>>3005847
Oh... thanks anon. I will try that next time

[Anonymous No.3005863]

>>3005861
http://www.floobynooby.com/ICG/artvalues.html
http://www.mclelun.com/2015/10/anime-tree-tutorial.html
http://www.mclelun.com/2015/11/anime-background-paint-over-photo.html
http://www.mclelun.com/2015/10/anime-background-tutorial.html
https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/an-introduction-to-painting-realistic-hair-in-adobe-photoshop--cms-24251
http://gas13.ru/v3/tutorials/how_to_draw_human_hair.php
http://www.photoshoplady.com/tutorial/how-to-create-realistic-human-hair/7798

https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-draw-bodies-of-water--cms-27055
https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-draw-clouds-and-sky--cms-27109

[Anonymous No.3005875]

anything wrong with the rendered domes?

[Anonymous No.3005885]

>>3005727
ugh, my first time trying to use digital with my shitty asus tablet. I got fed up.

[Anonymous No.3005889]

>>3005726

[Anonymous No.3005895]

>>3005885
Git used to it. Try again and post later when you're satisfied with the result.

[Anonymous No.3005902]

>>3005895
I hate the posture I have to draw in mostly because the pen sensitivity is so finicky, but it's all I have so I will try again later. Thanks for the words of encouragement.

[Anonymous No.3005903]

Quick question.

I've acquired a cheap guitar, which I'm going to be painting after I've finished laying down the primer.

Before I start, does anyone know of any adverse reactions between oil paints and a Nitrocellulose primer?

[Anonymous No.3005905]

>>3005902
I know how you feel. Pen sensitivity and lack of friction was a bitch.

[Anonymous No.3005932]

Is there any art tutorial videos you'd recommend?
also crit if you want.

[Anonymous No.3005933]

>>3005875
Nah, that's a pretty good job, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.3005946]

>>3005933
I'm not quite satisfied with it, I can't pinpoint exactly what I'm not happy with.

[Anonymous No.3005947]

>>3005946
Dude, just work a bit on other parts of the drawing.

[Anonymous No.3005950]

>>3005947
fuck

[Anonymous No.3005956]

>>3005946
Well, if I look really hard, the shading on the central dome's central white line is unfinished... and there are some stray pixels or blue line wobbling... But in all seriousness, I think it's just that you didn't touch the rest, and that's why it looks off.

[Anonymous No.3005957]

help meh , i want to starting doing some value grayscale, i have try it a bit , its so freakin hard to blending with manual brush, mine looks like grandpa shit, i always instantly using eastern kind coloring (which usually sai user using),but i doing it in photoshop , can someone give some basic thing that i need to know to doing grayscale?maybe link or something?
picture related , but NOT mine, and i not sure that done by grayscale, sry for asking to much

[Anonymous No.3005976]

>>3005727
>>3005885
>>3005895
wew so I tried again, couldnt decide how far i wanted to go with it. Should've stuck to a line drawing. Too many options after pencils.

[Anonymous No.3005980]

did a color study. couldn't get the brown thing and the green fruit

[Anonymous No.3005984]

>>3005980
im comparing images with the color picker and im seeing that me reds and oranges need to be way more saturated. the brown thing especially has a red glowing effect that i was trying to achieve by brightening the reds, just needed stronger colors.

[Anonymous No.3006052]

>fundamentals
>they're not fun at all

[Anonymous No.3006056]

>>3006052
they make me mental

[Anonymous No.3006060]

>>3006056
Mental? Like Serious Sam kind of Mental? Hey, that's quite cool! You get to moon the Earth in the future, after all!

(Sorry for shitposting, couldn't resist as usual.)

[Anonymous No.3006114]

Any good tutorials or whatever on drawing tasty looking food?

[Anonymous No.3006119]

>>3006114
If you can draw a tendie, you can draw anything.

Your homework: draw 500 tendies

[Anonymous No.3006123]

>>3006119
Let's not make another forced meme, man.

[Anonymous No.3006129]

>>3006123
I don't know how to tell you this, anon, but tendies have been a meme for a while now.

[Anonymous No.3006138]

>>3006129
The first time they made it into /beg/ was in May, wasn't it?

[Anonymous No.3006140]

>>3006114
I don't know any tutorials, but what I would recommend is to watch some videos on food photography for commercials - in those they show how they manage to make things like salad or a burger from McDonalds look tasty in advertising.

One popular example is to spray vegetables with olive oil, to make them more glossy.

These videos won't teach you how to draw them, but will help you understand what looks 'tasty' about food.

[Anonymous No.3006141]

>>3006138
Tendies are love. Tendies are life. You know how the old masters were obsessed with drawing the Virgin Mary? Tendies are the new Virgin Mary.

[Anonymous No.3006144]

>>3006119
I'm not american

>>3006140
Good idea, thanks anon. I'll give your method a go.

[Anonymous No.3006155]

>>3006119
almost 500

[Anonymous No.3006157]

>>3006155
Ok, now draw another 300 differently.

[Anonymous No.3006158]

>>3006157
no fuk off

[helpicanatri No.3006163]

[Anonymous No.3006167]

>>3006158
And if I say, "pwetty pwease?"

[Anonymous No.3006168]

>>3006167

[Anonymous No.3006172]

>>3005728
im having a real hard time with measurement here. any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3006174]

>>3006172
you're beyond help

[Anonymous No.3006175]

>>3006172
You need a lot more trial and error, by which I mean practice. You already see that the distance between his eyes and ears are just too short so you could have just redrawn it insted of posting.Just draw it again and again until it looks good.

[Anonymous No.3006184]

>>3006175
is that really it. i just need to grind it out? fuck this is going to be a long day.

[Anonymous No.3006185]

>>3006184
Ya just keep drawing the same picture over and over again until you get good at drawing that picture. Then you can move on.

[Anonymous No.3006190]

>>3006168
Uh, sorry, I only drink from my own canteen filled with never-ending beer to the brim.

>>3006172
Use anything that could help you with measurement. A finger, a ruler, a pen(is), whatever.

[helpicanatri No.3006191]

[Anonymous No.3006200]

>>3006185
alright, with this help me measure things in other shit. like will it help my brain with measuring, or will i just be able to draw this really good?

[Anonymous No.3006201]

>>3006200
It will help you draw it really good, giving you a good visual memory for what good looking things look like

[Anonymous No.3006210]

>>3006184
Mate, people just don't get what drawing is about. It's like 70% skill, and only 30% knowledge. You can't read a book or two and suddenly become good, you just do the same shit over and over again until you do it good.

[Anonymous No.3006212]

>>3006201
>>3006210
thanks fambalam, im going to either go kill myself or grind out some drawings. peace

[Anonymous No.3006229]

trying to get better at gesture drawing any tips

also here is something i made from hand and tried to digitalize but it didnt turn out well

[Anonymous No.3006234]

>>3006229
Read Hampton or Loomis.

What kind of advice do you expect?

[Anonymous No.3006238]

Make me want to kms

[Anonymous No.3006241]

>>3006238
What do you mean, you don't already want to?

[Anonymous No.3006242]

>>3006234
other than that. like is there anyway you think of gestures that make it easier for you? someone once told me they just drew a giant block for the whole body and went from there.

[Anonymous No.3006248]

>>3006242
I think it would be pretty useless to talk about how I approach gestures, when Loomis and Hampton wrote a whole book about how they approach them. My teachnique is just what works for me and a combination of bits and pieces from books from the sticky.

Don't draw them too small, so you force yourself to use your elbow and shoulders. Don't use too many lines to draw one.

[Anonymous No.3006269]

>>3005725
I'm honored to be in the OP.

[Anonymous No.3006281]

>>3005727
I'm trying to draw this but I don't even know where to start. Help.

[Anonymous No.3006289]

how to draw fantasy things that dont exist

[Anonymous No.3006290]

>>3006269
that's the worst OP we've ever had. it literally hurts to look at your picture.

[Anonymous No.3006294]

>>3006290
Sorry you feel that way, friend.

[Anonymous No.3006296]

>>3006269
That's the best OP we've ever had. Keep it up, you'll get there soon enough.

[Anonymous No.3006308]

what's the worst problem with my construction? or is it too simple to evaluate?

[Anonymous No.3006312]

This is best what i can do from imagination for now. Opinions?

[Anonymous No.3006313]

>>3006289
tried to color one

[Anonymous No.3006314]

What's a good chair for drawing? I find that I always end up slouching using my high back computer chair

[Anonymous No.3006318]

I'll just sit there being awful at everything and trying to get better or smth idk

[Anonymous No.3006319]

>>3006318
Oh I forgot to resize it sorry

[Anonymous No.3006325]

>>3006318
you and me mate

[Anonymous No.3006328]

Here's a quick little tribute I did for my favorite depressed artist PlagueofGripes.

[Anonymous No.3006330]

>>3006318
take your time, m8. pick up an animal anatomy construction book or watch schoolism. practice every day you'll get there soon enough.

[Anonymous No.3006334]

drawing would be easier if everything was potato shaped just like my attempts at circles

[Anonymous No.3006337]

>>3006330
What animal anatomy book can you recommend? I'm afraid that I can find some wrong books or something like that.

[Anonymous No.3006338]

>>3006328
Oh bob saget I forgot to resize krita doesn't let me do shit.

[Anonymous No.3006339]

>normie sister accidentally sees my art
>compliments me on it
>later that day notice a definite lack in stoic drive to progress
is it possible to go your entire life not talking to normies so as to avoid this?

[Anonymous No.3006342]

What's up with this resizing thing anyway? Why don't you just install Dollchan on browser?

[Anonymous No.3006345]

>>3006339
She just feels sorry for you, m8.

[Anonymous No.3006347]

>>3005728
I tried to give the hair texture but it looked like spaghetti lol

[Anonymous No.3006348]

>>3006347
a resize, for convenience

[Anonymous No.3006352]

>>3006337
dunno, but this is the one i usually see thrown around

https://www.amazon.com/Art-Animal-Drawing-Construction-Caricature/dp/1621389820/ref=sr_1_1?s=books

[Anonymous No.3006473]

Help please, it's possible to make that pose with the legs?

[Pinochhio Trump No.3006479]

Pinocchio Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtz4TEcQ-y4

[Anonymous No.3006486]

>>3006348
Nice job with the angles

[Anonymous No.3006531]

The world outside beg is so quiet and lacking in critique
really makes me think

[Anonymous No.3006535]

>>3006531
you know it already anon. all the good people left. btw, nice line work.

[Anonymous No.3006536]

i'm having big troubles with her right leg, knee in particular. Can someone help?

[Anonymous No.3006538]

>>3006531
RESIZE YOUR WOOOOOORRRRKKKKK

[Anonymous No.3006542]

>>3006538
Alright, I resized it

[Anonymous No.3006576]

>>3006531
Dude, how have you improved so quickly? Nice work man.

[Anonymous No.3006581]

>>3006576
WHY DID I FALL FOR THE REALISM MEME

[Anonymous No.3006583]

>>3006289

Just mix real life shit that arent suppose to mix.

Cow and a bodybuilder = Minotaur
Man/Woman and horse = Centaur
Bulky giant dude with one eye = Cyclops

Study cow head, horse body, and human anatomy. Use your imagination.

[Anonymous No.3006586]

>>3006542
>>3006576
>>3006581
>>3006581

[Anonymous No.3006588]

>>3006473

easiest way to know is to look at a mirror and do the pose yourself. Of course if you're fat go find someone to do it for you.

[Anonymous No.3006589]

>>3006531
Blog?

[Anonymous No.3006590]

Is there any good art tutorial videos out there for /beg/inners?

[Anonymous No.3006601]

>>3006583
cow and a sexy woman = holstaur.

[Anonymous No.3006608]

No reference first of all ..but still fcking aids.. My faces from imagination are always completely off can some one overdraw (izs ment to Look neandertal related

[Anonymous No.3006610]

>>3005728

[Anonymous No.3006611]

>>3006608
I fucked up The nose i think ..like realy hard

[Anonymous No.3006650]

Critiques? I think i messed up the cloth and drapes really badly. Any good resource for it?

[Anonymous No.3006659]

>>3006650
this is unfinished

[Anonymous No.3006665]

>>3006608
you drew both of the eyes from the front view

[Anonymous No.3006671]

>>3005727

[Anonymous No.3006677]

>>3006659
Well, it is indeed. I'd like to get a better understanding of what i did wrong before going on.

[Anonymous No.3006682]

>>3006308

there's a lot of inconsistencies regarding the perspective of the nose, ear and browline in relation to the side of the head

i think you're using the construction method incorrectly, reread whatever material you used and really follow through. or just watch the proko head construction vid and use his method

if anything i think you need to establish the side of the head with the axis first so you know the tilt of the head and draw accordingly based of that but idk i'm /beg/ tier too

[Anonymous No.3006710]

>>3006650
>>3006536

the form and head looks really flat and stiff, her right arm in particular is super jaring, in order for her arm to be visible like in your picture her body would have to be almost in a side profile angle, as for clothing I feel like it should be wrapping around the body more considering that action she's taking

i can't really put my thoughts into words as well as i'd like but to boil it down the major problem is perspective, practicing gestures would benefit you greatly, and here's a picture to further show what i'm trying to say but idk

[Anonymous No.3006717]

>>3006671
Not too bad. Now focus on getting rid of the lines and replacing them with value transitions to help define your form more.

[Anonymous No.3006718]

>>3006682
>>3006710
stop attempting to redline

[Anonymous No.3006719]

>>3006718

ok :(

[Anonymous No.3006727]

How is it?

[Anonymous No.3006728]

>>3006718
i'm >>3006650
mind giving me some advice too?

[Anonymous No.3006729]

how can i improve this overall?

[Anonymous No.3006735]

>>3006729
by spending more than 2 minutes on it

[Anonymous No.3006739]

What kind of eyes can I use to make her more cute?

[Anonymous No.3006746]

>>3006739
with that shape its already as cute as you can get at your skill level i think.

[Anonymous No.3006749]

>>3006746
rate her cuteness level please

[Anonymous No.3006753]

>>3006749
competent relative to your skill level.
you wont make her any cuter without first improving your tech skill i think.

[Anonymous No.3006759]

>>3006749
It looks cute in a huggful way

[Anonymous No.3006801]

>>3005946
Your values are wrong for daylight. There would be darker shadows, regardless of what time of day it is - it's something we know instinctually, because it's our environment we see every day. The key to photosrealism is color and value. It's coming off as cartoony/plastic because of your indistinct lighting.

[Anonymous No.3006804]

>>3006536
She doesn't have a knee, you have a tube bending at an angle. A knee is a joint, that moves in specific directions, and has a distinct shape.

Her shoulders are completely wrong, as well, and the overall pose is awkward.

[Anonymous No.3006805]

>>3006650
The left shoulder is still completely wrong - putting cloth over it only makes it worse.

Clothing takes studying fabric, and how it hangs on the body. In a pose like that, the cloth would be flat and tight against the knee, but because you don't have a knee, the cloth doesn't make sense.

When your underlying structure is flawed, hiding it with cloth doesn't improve it.

[Anonymous No.3006809]

>>3006729
Render the scene and objects better. This is a rough draft, at best.

[Anonymous No.3006810]

excuse me for a dump. but i havent had a crit in a while

[Anonymous No.3006811]

>>3006810

[Anonymous No.3006813]

>>3006811

[Anonymous No.3006814]

>>3006813
these are really rough, i know. just tell me if you like em, you see anything that can be pushed, or just stop it, you disgust me, etc

[Anonymous No.3006815]

>>3006814

[Anonymous No.3006817]

>>3006810
That laughing(?) in the middle looks nice

>>3006811
This page sorta makes me want to vomit

>>3006814
I like the strange samurai thing in this one though, could make it like those old Japanese paintings

[Anonymous No.3006819]

>>3006815

[Anonymous No.3006820]

>>3006819

[Anonymous No.3006822]

>>3006820
ref

[Anonymous No.3006823]

>>3006822

[Anonymous No.3006826]

>>3006823
ref

[Anonymous No.3006829]

>>3006826
last one.
>>3006817
why does that make you want to vomit? that is important

[Anonymous No.3006832]

>>3006829
I'm not good at describing, but perhaps it's because some of them look way off. Course that could be because it is rough.
Also these are neat>>3006820
>>3006823

[Anonymous No.3006833]

>>3005731
to the anon that told me not to scribble last thread

I'm so sorry

[Anonymous No.3006834]

>>3006819
I can't bother to critique your work, when you're drawing on paper with a printed grid of dots. It's distracting from the forms. Besides, the first four examples are just doodles. I'm not sure you want to accomplish here.

[Anonymous No.3006837]

>>3006834
do you like it? do you hate it? if your critique is so highbrow just give me a dirty one then

[Anonymous No.3006839]

>>3006834
also
>just doodles
youre gonna love my other shit then

[Anonymous No.3006840]

>>3006839

[Anonymous No.3006842]

>>3006840

[Anonymous No.3006846]

>>3006842

[Anonymous No.3006854]

>>3006842
you'll have to be better to pull off the "not finished but cool" style
but when it's done well it looks amazing, so keep it up

[Anonymous No.3006856]

>>3006854
Well, for starters I think he needs to start finishing his stuff. A lot of his thumbnails look promising, and then it just kind of becomes, "Oh"

[Anonymous No.3006863]

>>3006856
do you think you could explain what youre looking for, instead of the 'oh', or what makes you disappointed?
>>3006854
thanks man.

[Anonymous No.3006865]

>>3006863
and i get that all the time. that the thumbnail looks better. what does that usually signify? my guess is impatience, shrugging detail,

[Anonymous No.3006872]

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[Anonymous No.3006876]

>>3006318
Now why are you posting the image you took a month ago?

[Anonymous No.3006880]

>>3006801
Are you talking about the domes in particular or the image as a whole?

[Anonymous No.3006913]

>>3005728

[Anonymous No.3006917]

>>3006876
Because this is my last drawing. I'm to tired from my depression right now to do anything/

[Anonymous No.3006924]

>>3005726

[Anonymous No.3006936]

>>3006913
Take a closer look at his chin.

[Anonymous No.3006938]

>>3006936
Oh, I see it now. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3006941]

>>3005726
I tried to draw it with color first, not outline before hand.
I wanted to place the colors based on their dark-light value and if possible also match the hue, but it sort of went meh.
I went and did a second layer with black pencile to better match everything.

How do you pick the colors?
Ive only ever did drawing with graphite before. The new color axis thingy really make my brain gag.
I really want to start using actual paint (acrylic maybe oil) but it allways look so shitty when the color and paint layer start to come into play.

[Anonymous No.3006942]

>>3006941
Oh and sorry for the size, I dont think I can resize that in my phone.

[Anonymous No.3006947]

>>3006938
Now compare facial expressions. Yours is much softer. You see how on the photo the lower border of the eyebrow goes slightly below the upper border of the eye? Also look closely at the eye itself, it should be further away from the nose bridge (closer to the ear) which also pulls a corner of the mouth with it, because its end is supposed to be below the iris. In general, just jack off for an hour somewhere, then come back and measure everything again.

[Anonymous No.3006964]

>>3006941
You use so many different colours in the same places, that everything gets very muddled. I see what you try to do and the values do come out in places, but I think if you were to work cleaner that it would come out looking better and sharper. It looks like the chickenscratching of applying colours to me.

[Anonymous No.3007011]

>>3006805
> the shoulder is wrong
> the knee is not there
Yeah but IN WHICH WAY? HOW are they wrong? Which should be the correct way to have those parts?

it's frustrating to have to insist so much to get some precise correction

[Anonymous No.3007013]

what in the balls does it take to understand skin color? theres so many different lighting situations/colors/subtleties that it seems impossible

[Anonymous No.3007014]

>>3006947
Holy shit thanks. Fuck they look like different people.

[Anonymous No.3007016]

>>3006964
I see what you are saying.
It's sort of a mix of me trying to get a new color by mixing colors (I think it would work better with wet on wet, but it's pencil so it dosn't really work like that, and even then theres too many colors)
and sort of trying to render it better by adding more layers and not erasing, for some reason I really don't like to use eraser. Even though sharpening the light values make a really good and realistic contrast, erasing feels just...meh.

I guess I should buy more different value of pencils, pick only one pencil per 'smudg' and use eraser more (or use the white of the paper)

Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3007026]

>>3007011
> the shoulder is wrong
Deltoids are conected to the collarbone somewhere around this blue line. Muscels are not fat so they don't hang, like on your drawing.
> the knee is not there
> IN WHICH WAY
In a way of not being there?

[Anonymous No.3007030]

>>3007026
Muscles*
connected*

[Anonymous No.3007031]

>>3007011
Here's an attempt at redline.

[Anonymous No.3007039]

>>3007014
In the future try to find as many points of reference as possible before you start.

[Anonymous No.3007069]

>>3006172
CONSTRUCTION. seriously dude. An egg shape for the skull. Then double height of it. Half it and you have the eye line, half the lower portion you have the noseline, then halve the lower portion again and you have the bottom of the lips. This is probably not clear in text but you need to watch some videos on youtube about construction, then seriously grind for 365 days straight. Of course you can have a couple days off if you feel like it but just draw head/skulls consistently.

[Anonymous No.3007079]

tell me about the line of action

[Anonymous No.3007081]

>>3007026
>>3007031
thank you very much, really helpful

[Anonymous No.3007087]

>>3007069
in addition to this: once you got the construction, LOOK carefully at the picture to replicate the same lines you see on it on paper. Spend 90% of your time looking at what you're drawing and put it on paper quickly. What you're drawing now is what you think a face is, so (apart from the lack of construction making it look weird) it will always look like your "generic face", whichever it is in your head.

[Anonymous No.3007095]

It's funny that when drawing portraits/people you subconsciously attempt to make them look prettier.

[Anonymous No.3007116]

>>3007095
No one likes ugly people.

[Anonymous No.3007150]

>>3007069
Construction is just a meme, no real artists use it.

[Anonymous No.3007169]

>>3007079
The book Force by Mike Mattesi to me explains very well what the line of action is

[Anonymous No.3007201]

>>3006865
Basically it just means that your work is unrefined/unfinished. Your thumbnails read well, but you haven't completely finished rendering and your work just looks sloppy when blown up

[Anonymous No.3007213]

>>3007150
They do, they just don't have to lay it down on paper anymore. It's like at first when you learn how to write you are writing in those (pic related) to know the angle and height of letters.

[Anonymous No.3007217]

>>3007213
Come to think of it, this kind of notebooks might be a thing only in post-soviet states. But point still stands.

[Anonymous No.3007231]

>>3006872
ref

[Anonymous No.3007236]

>>3005730
Fuck me up, also what are some good sites to get drapery images from?

[Anonymous No.3007255]

could someone recommend where to start in learning to do these more digital or "shiny" style fan arts you see all the time.

I have been doing a lot of sketching on my tablet and am fairly happy with my line work, but no idea how to use photoshop to make these kind of style of end works.

[Anonymous No.3007260]

Is it worth it to, for better or worse, put time into making a finished piece? I've been practicing as much as I can, but It's mostly amounting to throwaway studies. After all this time, I don't have anything I can call "mine".

[Anonymous No.3007296]

>>3007260
Yes, make a finished piece and see how well you've improved, Anon. Share it here so we can see. Also there is something off about that sketch in the lower right.

[Anonymous No.3007309]

How do I shade better

[Anonymous No.3007310]

>>3005754
It's not weird at all, geometric shapes/symmetry stuff like that is extremely common. Just look at all the zentangle stuff. It definitely looks appealing but it's overdone alot nowadays.

[Anonymous No.3007314]

>>3005725
Art critique?

[Anonymous No.3007318]

>>3007309
That. If the light comes from the left that shadow mustn't be there.

[Anonymous No.3007319]

>>3007318

[Anonymous No.3007320]

>>3007318
Also this. You can try to shadow the ground instead of shadow the legs.

[Anonymous No.3007321]

>>3007320

[Anonymous No.3007323]

>>3007314
nice dick

[Anonymous No.3007325]

Hey guys, here is a drawing of Misty. Feedback is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3007327]

>>3007323
Lol, i swear i didn't realise when i draw it

[Anonymous No.3007330]

>>3007325
Misty whom?

[Anonymous No.3007331]

>>3007327
Freud was totally right.

[Anonymous No.3007333]

>>3007325
You fucked up the face.

[Anonymous No.3007340]

>>3007330
from Pokemon

>>3007333
Yeah, I wasn't sure how to do the face. What do you think is wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.3007344]

>>3007340

I think'd look better this way

[Anonymous No.3007345]

I'm going to flick the bean.

[Anonymous No.3007346]

>>3007344
Also making is face thinner

[Anonymous No.3007347]

>>3007345
post pics

[Anonymous No.3007354]

>>3007344
I see it. Thanks anon. Here is the edit with the larger face. Slightly smaller head too.

[Anonymous No.3007357]

>>3007354
Looks pretty great now, Kongrats.

[Anonymous No.3007358]

>>3007344
Somehow it reminds me of The Bayeux Tapestry, lol.

[Anonymous No.3007359]

>>3007357
thanks!

[Anonymous No.3007361]

>>3007358
>The Bayeux Tapestry
Are you bloody serious?

[Anonymous No.3007363]

>>3007361
*in Scottish accent* I bloody am, moyt.

[Anonymous No.3007366]

>>3007363
guay u sei dat moyt?

[Anonymous No.3007370]

>>3007309
Where is your penis?

[Anonymous No.3007395]

>>3007366
Juhst look at dis foys! >>3007344
The characteristical expression and blurriness, tis' all a fair tapestry effigy if me evah saw vun!

Although I don't really know what part of the tapestry it reminds me of. I think it's that one, where a king nonchalantly takes the sword in the chest, but I'm not sure and I can't seem to find it either.

[Anonymous No.3007405]

help

[Anonymous No.3007415]

>>3005727
I dont know how to pick values from color

[Anonymous No.3007418]

>>3007405
Oh, hey there, long time no see. How are your heads doing, did you learn the trick to them?

Anyway, to see what's wrong with your hands, copy each gesture with your own. Move your head to see your hand from the intended angle. Pay very close attention to where each phalanx of a digit goes (the angle, I mean). Look at the connection of the arm as well.

[Anonymous No.3007421]

>>3005863
bless u

[Anonymous No.3007424]

Is there a place I can get drawing on the right side of the brain or keys to drawing on pdf?

[Anonymous No.3007425]

>>3007418
yeah, i moved on from heads a couple of weeks ago
i started using the discord since i realised i shouldnt completely trust /beg/ for things like that. i ended up using hamtpon's feature placement measurements and people on the discord said i was competant enough to move on, so i did.

anyway these hands are all just my left hand in front of me. move my head around when im drawing? wont that have problems? the phalanges of the fingers are the worst areas? i would pay special attention to those?

[Anonymous No.3007427]

>>3007424
reported
go back to tumblr

[Anonymous No.3007431]

>>3007425
With the way you drew them, there's not much else to comment on, but one can definitely see the unnaturalness in digits. You see, they are so closely packed together under the skin that a movement of one might easily cause movement of the others or restrict their movement.

>> i was competant enough to move on
I'd like to see how true it is.

[Anonymous No.3007442]

>>3007431
im not opening that can of worms again. people on the discord said it was enough. thats good enough for me.

you are saying my digits are too close together?

[Anonymous No.3007446]

>>3007442
Aw, that's a pity.

>> you are saying my digits are too close together?
Nah, they are supposed to be packed together, and that is an important anatomical knowledge which should make you pay attention to the angles.

[Anonymous No.3007459]

I did it, guys! I've been doing nothing but drawing circles for the past 3 weeks and I've finally freehanded a perfect circle! We're all gonna make it!

[Anonymous No.3007461]

>>3007442

Share the discord anon?

[Anonymous No.3007466]

>>3005730
>Ivan
Jurko, you nob

[Anonymous No.3007468]

>>3007461
before you do anything else you should read the sticky

[Anonymous No.3007469]

>>3007459
good shit

[Anonymous No.3007478]

tips on drawing from imagination?
do artists literally have every inch of anatomy memorized?

[Anonymous No.3007481]

>>3007459
>give a monkey a pencil and enough time and it'll write the complete works of Shakespeare

[Anonymous No.3007498]

>>3005730
>192x263

great ref bro

[Anonymous No.3007500]

>>3007459
sorry, you're 3 pixels off a circle diameter wise, not to mention the other obvious issues

[Anonymous No.3007516]

>>3007500
Shit! I've wasted 3 weeks of my life! Hopefully advancements in medical science can extend my life by 3 weeks to make up for it

[Anonymous No.3007517]

>>3007478
so close but so far

[Anonymous No.3007531]

>>3007478
>do artists literally have every inch of anatomy memorized?
Not exactly every inch, but they memorize the forms bit by bit.
What I do is break down the body into three parts: the shoulders, the abdomen/chest area, and the hips.
With this base, I can add on the neck and the legs.
I would focus on the head in more detail. Things like the distance between the ears, the angle of the eyes, stop, and muzzle proportions are very important.
Use triangles to help you plan the facial features.

[Anonymous No.3007542]

Oh god kill me twice. I'm afraid to spend more than five minutes on any drawing, it only gets worse. How to stop feeling so bad about your drawings?

[Anonymous No.3007546]

>>3007542
Do what I do and draw the character you like.

or don't, I'm a very new /beg/, maybe get someone way more experienced than me.

[Anonymous No.3007549]

>>3007546
I like horses. I feel horrible drawing them.

[Anonymous No.3007552]

>>3007468
aah... thanks.

[Anonymous No.3007558]

>>3007542
dehumanise yourself and face to grind

[Anonymous No.3007559]

>>3007542

Spend more time on it. You'll see your mistakes more clearly. After that it's just working on how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.3007562]

>>3007558
You mean like I shouldn't feel sorry for every small mob I killed or I'm taking the word "grinding" too serious?

[Anonymous No.3007564]

>>3007562
increase your fundamental skill
throw yourself absolutely at the grind
with the hours and the effort
only then will your lack of quality become just about bearable.

[Anonymous No.3007567]

>>3007255
no one answered :^(

[Anonymous No.3007570]

>>3007542
You need to break yourself. Kill what you love inside of you. Become empty and hollow to work your way back but with the skills you attained via killing your love. I speak from first-hand experience, though I only finally managed to break myself.

[Anonymous No.3007574]

>>3007570
i would say avoid this.
you must keep the love and you must endure its burn
instead only realise that the path to your love lies in the grind.

[Anonymous No.3007578]

>>3007255
>>3007567
that is just adding colour and light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSciMPwYRB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSciMPwYRB0
this guy is great hes a disney animator and likes to draw animals.

[Anonymous No.3007588]

>>3007542
Sharpen your pencil, draw bigger

[Anonymous No.3007594]

>watch Bob Ross on twitch
>he says that painting will put a lot of good thoughts in your heart
>that sounds way better than suicidal thoughts
>blow the last of my money on painting supplies
>everything I paint looks like shit
>none of my accidents are happy
>hearth filled with murderous rage
>murderous rage towards Bob Ross

[Anonymous No.3007598]

Anything to make this look better?

[Anonymous No.3007606]

Roast me

[Anonymous No.3007609]

>>3007598
>>3007606
>not resizing and rotating

[Anonymous No.3007610]

Sorry, resized

[Anonymous No.3007612]

>>3007610
Shit, it's still fuckhuge even when I screencap it

[Anonymous No.3007613]

>>3007594
He's already dead, anon
You already beat him at life

[Anonymous No.3007614]

>>3007598
Stop chickenscratching

[Anonymous No.3007617]

>>3007610

alright, lets try this again

[Anonymous No.3007619]

>>3007617
I actually quite like the pose and the perspective going on is not too bad either.

[Anonymous No.3007624]

>>3007617
those boots and elbow tho.
other than that it's looking good.

[Anonymous No.3007630]

>>3007594
it's your fault for spending all your money on a hobby you're not good at

[Anonymous No.3007633]

I am mentally ill /ic/. even my psychologist can't figure out how to pin point my problems.

one of them might be bad anatomy

[Anonymous No.3007636]

what's a good program to use for digital work?

[Anonymous No.3007639]

>>3007594

post your work, i'm curious to see what Bob Ross inspired paintings look like when theyre infused with desperation and rage

[Anonymous No.3007646]

>>3005727

[Anonymous No.3007654]

Mage drawing here. Please critique.

[Anonymous No.3007657]

>>3007654
conveniently turning the staff symbol so it faces the camera

[Anonymous No.3007659]

>>3007657
Yes she is. It's for the picture.

[Anonymous No.3007660]

>>3007659

you expect us to believe they have cameras in this magical fantasy world of yours?

[Anonymous No.3007665]

pls don't bully

[Anonymous No.3007667]

>>3007665

those hands tho

[Anonymous No.3007668]

>>3007667
How do I fix them?

[Anonymous No.3007669]

Can I have some tips about painting with acrylics?
I'm struggling with blending.

[Anonymous No.3007670]

>>3007660
She's actually at a cosplay convention

[Anonymous No.3007672]

>>3007669
whoops, forgot to resize.

[Anonymous No.3007674]

>>3007668

first off it looks like you made the arms manlet sized in order for it to fit the axe handle on the page, i think that's where the underlying problem is

[Anonymous No.3007675]

>>3007668
they are too smol for the big guy

[Anonymous No.3007676]

why do my rough sketches always look better than the finished product

[Anonymous No.3007677]

>>3007674
They're actually supposed to be bent towards him, but I can't do foreshortening well.
>>3007675
Good point. I'll take stuff like that as a note next time

[Anonymous No.3007681]

>>3007670
that explains why she is slutted up

[Anonymous No.3007682]

>>3007633

[Anonymous No.3007684]

>>3007682
you cant polish a turd

[Anonymous No.3007686]

>>3007684
can you tell me what I should fix?

[Anonymous No.3007689]

>>3007681
you know ittt

[Anonymous No.3007691]

>>3007686

the tits on the skinny lady look too far apart, looks like you're trying to force it to match the tits of the fat lady

it might look better if you played with the perspective more instead of the camera just facing straight on

the skin looks like clay, it would look more interesting if you gave it a good light source

[Anonymous No.3007692]

>>3007691
Thanks, I'll try to fix those things, I'm still just doing the shadows, then I'll do light and other misc. colors on a layer above it

[Anonymous No.3007693]

How late is too late to start drawing?

[Anonymous No.3007694]

>>3007693
10 seconds ago

[Anonymous No.3007695]

>>3007693
When it's after 2am.

[Anonymous No.3007697]

>>3007693
You have 2 days.

[Anonymous No.3007711]

How do you get good linework in photoshop without a cintique?

[Anonymous No.3007716]

>>3007711
ask any professional that doesn't use a cintiq

[Anonymous No.3007718]

>>3007716
ive never seen one that doesnt use a tablet with a screen like this
even all the semi pro streamers i see have one

[Anonymous No.3007719]

>>3006238
Hold on let me put on my glasses

[Anonymous No.3007721]

>>3006172
Hold out your fingers and make the Donald trump sign, then literally measure the distance between shit

[Anonymous No.3007728]

Which one should i study first im a super beginner

[Anonymous No.3007744]

>>3007728

skip fun with a pencil, and go into figure drawing

[Anonymous No.3007754]

>>3007728
Norling - Perspective Made Easy

>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8VO-JQCy3HgZ0U3QkVvVm4wREE

[Anonymous No.3007763]

>>3007744
Huh really everybody told me that was the bread and butter of loomis
>>3007754
This looks good hmmmm cant choose

[Anonymous No.3007765]

>>3007755
>>3007755
>>3007755

>>3007755
>>3007755
>>3007755

>>3007755
>>3007755
>>3007755

[Anonymous No.3007767]

>>3007728
keys to drawing is the best beginner book

[Anonymous No.3007773]

>>3005957
just start you pleb. Also I don't understand what the problem is. Have you tried grayscale? It sounds like you're trying to color but you're interested in grayscale. So stop coloring and try grayscale?? Use reference, do exercises, google some shit, and have fun with it.

[Anonymous No.3007776]

>>3006313
>>3006289
Read a science fiction comic or something. And then start with blobs/generic ideas that originate from the material you consume. It sorta looks like you're trying to draw from a vacuum. Your background is empty, your characters very undetailed. I face this problem all the time, too. Consume some art and then try drawing after that.

[Anonymous No.3007951]

>>3007588
Is THAT not sharp enough?

[Anonymous No.3008012]

>>3005727
I'm frustrated, I've been at it all day but I can't get something even close to acceptable, eyes are way off, looking lopsided, nose is weird, jaw is always off, mouth looks weird. I've been practicing basic exercises for weeks and tried using construction on it but it still comes out as symbols..

[Anonymous No.3008016]

>>3008012
After a few hours I traced over it and compared and then tried again and still don't have it.

[Anonymous No.3008032]

>>3006531
Center of gravity feels off. I would move shoulders to the right and hips to the left.

[Anonymous No.3008035]

>>3006729
Stop relying only on atmospheric perspective.
Do something harder.

[Anonymous No.3008044]

>>3007309
that's a small hand/big foot

[Anonymous No.3008048]

>>3007672
Your cast shadow looks off. If I get light direction by looking at your terminator it seems the cast shadow should be larger. Did you project it properly? I'm assuming you are working with sunlight because of no visible gradation at the ground plane.

[Anonymous No.3008051]

>>3007728
>falling for loomis meme
Loomis is terrible for absolute beginner.

[Kem No.3008070]

Critics please.

[Anonymous No.3008135]

>>3008048
Huh, it really is off. Thanks for pointing that out! I'll be more careful in the future.

[Anonymous No.3008188]

>>3005727
Wip aka quitting now.
Critique much apreciated.

[Anonymous No.3008744]

critique?

[Anonymous No.3009100]

>be from poor family
>finally gather money to buy a tablet to draw
>deep inside feels like I'm wasting money on a shallow interest

[Anonymous No.3009426]

>>3005754
I like it alot, anon. What's your method? Do you measure the angels or lengths or anything like that? Do you start with a large shape then fill in the smaller ones or do you start with one and build around it? It sort of reminds me of a fractal.

[Anonymous No.3009801]

>>3007951
Nope. It could be sharper

[Anonymous No.3010316]

made an album cover

[Anonymous No.3010362]

>>3010316
did more to this