/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD Anonymous Sat May 20 09:12:18 2017 No.2986702 [Reply] [Original]

If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead (I recommend ShareX)

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

OLD THREAD: >>2984444

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:12:26 2017 No.2986703 File: 104 KB, 700x980, f00ef82485935cab22060b1001af8d73.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:12:59 2017 No.2986705 File: 107 KB, 470x705, _hS7iqWLKiMIup3Jy8KfKg-wide.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:13:30 2017 No.2986707 File: 27 KB, 521x600, 723ddde5910cfe0273ee9bd0969e61bb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:13:47 2017 No.2986708 File: 77 KB, 500x365, 70ab61a441bfe4bc6af4c0e2652e049d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:15:49 2017 No.2986713 File: 74 KB, 1053x923, k.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Booted up photoshop today and this is happening. How do I fix.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:19:56 2017 No.2986718 >>2986713 Is it a pirated version? Adobe somehow found out how to fuck up not genuine software.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:24:06 2017 No.2986723 Is there really any point to the drawing tablets with screens? I mean, it seems like once you get used to a normal drawing tablet, you're actually better off in a way because your hand will never obstruct your view.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:30:11 2017 No.2986732 >>2986718 Yep, pirated. I guess I should go pirate clip studio paint instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:35:36 2017 No.2986739 How many years of doing 6 hours of line exercises a day before you can just shit out any line or curve you want at angle on the paper in single clean stroke like the guys in these instructional videos?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:38:07 2017 No.2986742 File: 205 KB, 846x1080, 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986705

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 09:52:54 2017 No.2986752 >>2986739 bout three fitty

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:06:46 2017 No.2986764 File: 175 KB, 409x601, 33333.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] from asian model last thread how do proportions guys

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:19:34 2017 No.2986777 >>2986764 >how do proportions guys By studying and understanding them. Check Loomis's or Hampton's figure drawing. Also think in forms.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:25:32 2017 No.2986781 File: 202 KB, 414x594, 4444.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986777 yeah good idea

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:40:25 2017 No.2986801 >tfw by the time you get warmed up it's already time to go to sleep again NEET problems

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:46:56 2017 No.2986812 File: 106 KB, 1088x839, 1495281898483.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:54:30 2017 No.2986819 I can't imagine that all these sort of generic manga artists go through formal training or studies of anything except... manga. Do they just draw anime style stuff until they're passable at it?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:56:25 2017 No.2986821 >>2986819 20 years of having no sex and fapping to lolicon is plenty of training.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:58:22 2017 No.2986822 >>2986821 whew, halfway there we're gonna make it, boys

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:58:28 2017 No.2986823 >>2986801 or in my case little electric heater problems, i'm cold heater, impart more heat to the room pls thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 10:58:29 2017 No.2986824 >>2986821 b-buh muh fundies

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:01:18 2017 No.2986827 >>2986824 >fundies you mean fpantsu

>>	NoseBro Sat May 20 11:13:54 2017 No.2986845 >>2986742 draw a box and cylinder for neck+torax and establish eyelevel. you have perspective issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:24:50 2017 No.2986853 >>2986718 well, fuck them!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:34:36 2017 No.2986863 File: 109 KB, 634x1000, gayart2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Help me improve. What's wrong with this drawing? Feel free to nitpick

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:41:41 2017 No.2986877 >>2986863 lack of benis

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:46:41 2017 No.2986888 File: 179 KB, 1025x531, tendies.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How would you derive a line art texture from something like this?

Anonymous Sat May 20 11:46:55 2017 No.2986889
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Anybody got tips for painting clouds?
I know i am supposed to block them out and paint them as vloumes but when the clouds are really thin and wispy that technique is hard to make work.
I dont want to spend like half the time on painting little details in the clouds either.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:48:31 2017 No.2986892 >>2986888 feel the form

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:48:55 2017 No.2986894 >>2986888 Just outline it then slap a filter on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:49:22 2017 No.2986897 >>2986892 The form is easy, the texture isn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:50:06 2017 No.2986898 >>2986863 I think her right side should be more of an 'S' since it extends and her left side should be crumpled or pinched since she's doing that sort of pose. That's just my opinion, friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:53:34 2017 No.2986904 File: 561 KB, 634x1000, sssssss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986898 what do you mean "more of an s?"

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 11:55:58 2017 No.2986909 >>2986904 I can't redline, I meant smoother since it's stretching and the other half is pinching. Try the pose yourself, do it in front of a mirror.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:00:09 2017 No.2986912 >>2986888 Makes me hungry for chicken tendies now, thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:01:50 2017 No.2986915 >>2986909 I'm not female enough to pull off this pose, but I see what you mean. looking at the reference, i agree that I emphasised the hip too much, as well as the peice of skin jutting out from the rib (should have been smoother)

>>	NoseBro Sat May 20 12:02:45 2017 No.2986918 File: 1.09 MB, 1761x686, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986888 same as anything else (mouse trace from snipping tool)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:03:41 2017 No.2986919 >>2986918 post just the blue and that'll look like shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:06:44 2017 No.2986923 >>2986918 Those are just contours

>>	NoseBro Sat May 20 12:06:49 2017 No.2986925 File: 90 KB, 1014x532, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986919 if you just put more time itd look fine.

>>	NoseBro Sat May 20 12:07:50 2017 No.2986926 >>2986923 what does line art texture even mean?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:08:08 2017 No.2986927 >>2986915 It's cool, man. You'll improve over time. Not being female isn't really a problem, just imagine yourself as a girl or wear a dress. I'm not joking, it's either refs, models, or just try it yourself. Hope to see you improve here, friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:08:39 2017 No.2986928 File: 572 KB, 600x580, 1478388350818.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/beg/ attempts to define the essence of a tendie Keep it up, I want to see where this goes

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:24:19 2017 No.2986941 >>2986925 looks like nothing. Context will be key when making a linedrawing of a tendie.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:25:11 2017 No.2986943 What PEN should I get as a BEGINNER?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:26:57 2017 No.2986948 >>2986943 a biro

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:28:55 2017 No.2986949 File: 135 KB, 1024x768, floating grass rock.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986925

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:31:23 2017 No.2986953 >>2986949 kek, well played

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:34:39 2017 No.2986957 >>2986949 >floating tendie islands I want to live in that world

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:50:44 2017 No.2986968 >>2986925 It looks like a kangaroo. Is it a kangaroo?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:51:01 2017 No.2986969 >>2986707 Is that flaccid

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:54:21 2017 No.2986971 >>2986927 is this how 4chan creates traps?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 12:57:36 2017 No.2986973 >>2986948 nice meme dude >>2986943 Any real answer?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:02:12 2017 No.2986980 >>2986971 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:04:53 2017 No.2986986 >>2986971 you vicariously became a trap the moment you commented on this Mongolian clay sculpture forum.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:11:19 2017 No.2986993 >>2986812 critique?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:33:08 2017 No.2987010 >>2986993 You're good enough, do something else now.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:43:02 2017 No.2987021 How is restating different from hairy lines?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:51:02 2017 No.2987032 >>2986973 i dont think the other guy was joking. a biro is literally fine. As an idea, try unipin fineliners? They seem to work fine for me (I'm no expert though)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 13:53:29 2017 No.2987044 >>2986973 Those free ikea pens. >>2986993 The lower right leg of the figure on the left is bugging me.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:09:18 2017 No.2987065 I want to practice drawing big without going through a lot of paper. Would a whiteboard work?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:18:58 2017 No.2987073 >>2987065 Why not?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:39:51 2017 No.2987084 >>2986718 >there are people that actually believe that lmao My photoshop is working perfectly fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:42:50 2017 No.2987085 I want to draw American cartoons with eastern influences!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 14:55:16 2017 No.2987089 >>2986764 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N87QWwQnml8

Anonymous Sat May 20 14:58:23 2017 No.2987092

>>2986739
I've been doing the exercises from Peter Han's series every day for like 3 weeks now. 6 pages a day. My linework has massively improved. I wouldn't say I can draw anything from any angle, but if I rotate my paper I can put down just about any clean line that I want.

I'm 32 so I was afraid that my hand-eye coordination wouldn't grow very much, but it didn't seem to be a problem.

Anonymous Sat May 20 15:18:57 2017 No.2987111

Not sure if i should ask this in /qtddtot/ but I just want to know as an absolute beginner, where to strictly focus my attention to get my feet off the ground? I've spent many pages just drawing things on my desk and i try to focus on seeing what is there irl, not chicken scratching and using my whole arm but I was end up falling back into these habits.

pls halp

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 15:42:32 2017 No.2987143 >>2987111 Post your drawing of things on your desk.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 15:47:54 2017 No.2987149 >>2987092 What did you get into drawing for, pal?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 15:58:04 2017 No.2987166 File: 2.46 MB, 1440x2560, Screenshot_20170520-155709.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987143 Sorry for the phone pic.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:06:02 2017 No.2987170 File: 141 KB, 2000x2000, PS106Stainless_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987143 >>2987166 i was attempting to draw this btw

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:34:57 2017 No.2987204 File: 232 KB, 983x768, time4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986718 >adobe breaks cracked bloatoshop >torrent nip studio paint instead >it's better well then

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:53:14 2017 No.2987236 File: 75 KB, 1000x564, kekekmek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you think of it? It's not finished yet, there's stuff I need to do and fix, but I'm done for the day.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:56:31 2017 No.2987240 File: 331 KB, 600x431, laughterstops.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987204 >relatively competant and successful downward angle in anime style after only a few days

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:57:13 2017 No.2987241 >>2987240 You should become his disciple.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 16:59:51 2017 No.2987244 File: 341 KB, 1800x750, week.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987240 >few days almost two weeks, anon granted I did nothing but draw a head a day

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:00:41 2017 No.2987246 >>2987241 learn realism goy, you cant just copy anime from the start right? establish a strong mastery of the fundamentals first else you wont succeed. hehe good goyim >>2987244 >one head a day fucking end me

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:02:02 2017 No.2987247 >>2987244 what were you focusing on holty shit this progress is amazing

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:03:24 2017 No.2987248 >>2987246 >everyone falling for the you can't copy anime from the start when that's what every other normal person does

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:03:46 2017 No.2987249 File: 1.10 MB, 562x1000, exercise.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How much did I fucked up?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:04:17 2017 No.2987250 >>2987244 It's still shit, but congrats, you improved more in two weeks than Sonic artists improve in 5 years

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:09:01 2017 No.2987257 >>2987249 Did you do it upside down?

Anonymous Sat May 20 17:11:11 2017 No.2987260
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>>2987247
I read the first few pages of Loomis but the first few heads were dogshit
So I redlined a pic I liked on here to try and figure out how they constructed their shit
It helped a lot
So basically, uh, do as the people who do how you'd like to do, do

>>2987248
>I'm normal, right
>I haven't been memed, right

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:14:21 2017 No.2987261 >>2987260 >pops is this anon's inspiration

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:18:52 2017 No.2987268 >>2987261 I wish I knew who that was.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:21:48 2017 No.2987271 >>2987268 >>2986976

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:23:02 2017 No.2987274 File: 932 KB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986708 Advice clearly needed. Give feedback then I'll do a redraw to show my progress.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:24:00 2017 No.2987277 >>2987261 I think it's not him but a different artist, who can actually draw lewd lolis from imagination with various faces.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:25:08 2017 No.2987280 >>2987277 sounds like he's all of our inspiration

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:25:29 2017 No.2987281 >>2987277 Oh yeeahhh, I think he was called lolibro. It was a reaction image on the topic of lolis anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:35:34 2017 No.2987296 the amount of samefag in this thread is embarassing

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:45:19 2017 No.2987312 File: 267 KB, 1101x927, extension.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987249 a ton which is why it should have taught you a)what symbol drawing is c)how not to do it b)why not to do it

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 17:46:17 2017 No.2987313 >>2987274 is this meant to be stylised?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:31:28 2017 No.2987373 crit?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:32:03 2017 No.2987375 >>2987373 awesome, super cute

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:32:06 2017 No.2987376 File: 999 KB, 1593x2340, 20170520_182857.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987373 sigh.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:34:14 2017 No.2987379 >>2987274 study anatomy, you're thinking too much, figure drawing sites, capture the flow not the anatomy, not yet at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:35:11 2017 No.2987381 >>2987376 jerry, i...

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:36:17 2017 No.2987385 >>2987376 jerrybreem had a rough life :(

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:39:40 2017 No.2987390 >>2986713 restart your driver.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:46:13 2017 No.2987400 >>2987246 >>2987248 People think that is good progress... I thought I was in reddit for a second there.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:47:31 2017 No.2987403 >>2987400 Post your progress then wait, no, post good progress then

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:51:15 2017 No.2987410 File: 405 KB, 795x1446, swang.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] know some yung n****s like to swang (cant curse)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:53:11 2017 No.2987418 File: 220 KB, 1000x1273, shtprogress.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987403 Guess I'll do it for you. It's not good progress but it's my hard work of 2 months grinding portrait, facial construction... Only the stuff I've done in /beg/

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:55:55 2017 No.2987423 >>2987381 >>2987385 Sure memes lulz but at least give opinions.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:56:09 2017 No.2987424 >>2986889 >I dont want to spend like half the time on painting little details in the clouds either. Then art is not for you. You might want to consider photography or design.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:57:16 2017 No.2987428 >>2987410 Sure you can. Say it with me: NIGGERS. One more time! NIGGERS!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 18:58:40 2017 No.2987431 >>2987418 >he got somewhere in 2 weeks, that's not good progress! >I've been stuck grinding here for 2 months, going nowhere, so I should know! /beg/: not even once

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:01:07 2017 No.2987437

>>2986863
First, I can't see the form very well, because of your poor shading.

Second, your anatomy is awkward:

Her neck's origin at the neckbone is wrong
Her thighs don't match
The muscles of the hip are wrong.
The lower contour of the left leg should not stop at the crotch, it would continue into the buttock
Her arms are too small.
Her calf on the left leg (raised) is wrong, she has no ankle.
Her bellybutton feels too low.
Her left arm is just poorly drawn.
The pose makes no sense - is she hanging from the drapes? If so, there should be tension on the drapes, and on the right, there is none.
Her hair is poorly done.

If you're working from reference, please post it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:02:56 2017 No.2987440 >>2987428 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:03:23 2017 No.2987441 >>2987431 Hah! Okay I'll be grinding my fundies and progress while you guys bicker about copying anime and ignore the foundation.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:03:25 2017 No.2987442 how do i know if im getting critiqued by someone who knows what theyre talking about when i post stuff here

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:04:14 2017 No.2987445 i cant wait until i can leave this fucking place

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:04:29 2017 No.2987446

>>2987111
Stop worrying about drawing from the shoulder - it's fine for large, sweeping lines, and filling large areas, but for details and accuracy, draw normally with your wrist on the table.

The way to break habits is to do something different. Walk around your town, draw things like sculpture - graveyards are a free source of materials. Go to a zoo, draw animals. Just break up your routine.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:04:39 2017 No.2987447 >>2987442 red line unless it's really bad, if that's the case you don't deserve a red line and should take any criticism with a grain of salt.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:06:12 2017 No.2987450 >>2987442 When you read the comments and see that they're seeing mistakes/flaws you didn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:08:59 2017 No.2987453 File: 66 KB, 485x533, 1481326298930.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987441 >Hah! >uh...muh fundies >>2987445 nothing's keeping you here.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:10:19 2017 No.2987456 >>2987453 i think he means "i cant wait until im not a beginner"

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:12:39 2017 No.2987460 >>2987410 how big is your canvas?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:18:34 2017 No.2987469 >>2987460 like 3k by 6k

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:19:35 2017 No.2987472 >>2987437 This is the sort of brutal nit-pickery I needed, thanks anon. Ref: https://www.quickposes.com/assets/poses/14211bfcc5292468238076c1dcec1638.jpg Please explain how I improve shading? In fact, how do I improve everything that's poor?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:35:28 2017 No.2987505 File: 24 KB, 411x379, 20170520_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone please teach me how to paint?

Anonymous Sat May 20 19:43:04 2017 No.2987515

>>2987442
If all their critique consists of solely measurement comments or a lot of "x is off" you might want to be wary. If someone tackles something deeper than the surface (insight on how to blend, lighting advice, or how a certain fundamental concept works) that's when you know you should be listening. Really nobody knows how to critique well, least of all this thread. It's unreal but then again it's beginners helping beginners

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:45:42 2017 No.2987520 File: 34 KB, 500x707, 1492915570626.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987505 Try this approche, yet i belive for you it would be much better if you first get a really good grasp of rendering with traditional .

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:46:57 2017 No.2987524 I have an Intuos Art medium. Do you think I will improve any faster if I buy a 13" Cintiq while I have the money right now?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:47:38 2017 No.2987525 >>2987524 waste of money for beginners

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:48:45 2017 No.2987526 >>2987524 [cue "you-can-do-a-painting-with-a-broom" meme]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:50:24 2017 No.2987529 >>2987525 >>2987526 All I needed to hear to talk me out of it. I was on the fence on spending the money anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:54:03 2017 No.2987541 >>2987529 Just curious but why would you even consider it? Even if you have disposal income it's still not exactly chump change. No amount of soft or hardware will help you "improve faster" or substitute for lack of knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:54:52 2017 No.2987542 >>2987274 you lack an understand of volume and form look at the references torso area. the shape/form is reminiscent of an oval/eggish shap. your images torso area is very flat/undefined .

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 19:57:14 2017 No.2987545 >>2986863 her right leg looks somewhat out of place or detached from the overall form.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:01:11 2017 No.2987551 >>2987541 I was worried that the disconnection with not seeing my hand when drawing is making me not progress as quickly as I want to. But honestly, it's probably because I have unrealistic expectations for myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:15:53 2017 No.2987567 >>2987551 If it's money you can afford to lose then buy it. If anything you can resell it for a lower price. If not just draw using the normal tablet. You'll adapt sooner or later. Draw with pencil/pen on paper whenever you're not on the computer.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 20:39:48 2017 No.2987582 File: 126 KB, 1024x768, face2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fucking hell, how come the lines look so good on nip studio?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:27:50 2017 No.2987625 >>2987582 >the lines look so good Yeah, sure...

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:29:26 2017 No.2987628 >>2987625 Well, compared to photoshop.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:30:10 2017 No.2987631 >>2987582 What size brush are you using?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:31:29 2017 No.2987633 >>2987631 10.4 on the g-spot pen.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:34:40 2017 No.2987635 >>2987582 You sure it doesn't have a build in stabilizer or some shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:38:10 2017 No.2987637 >>2987582 That's called skill my boy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:39:26 2017 No.2987638 File: 45 KB, 570x403, Crazy-Face.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987637 >skill

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:41:20 2017 No.2987641 File: 37 KB, 806x648, gpen.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987635 Yeah but doesn't ps have the same thing? I had it pretty low anyway. >>2987637 >beg >skill hue

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:45:40 2017 No.2987646 >>2987240 You the same guy sucking his dick from last thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:48:31 2017 No.2987648 >>2987646 Don't you know that anyone giving compliments on /ic/ is the artist themself? Samefags everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 21:58:28 2017 No.2987658 >>2987646 he's samefagging stop giving him attention

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 22:22:16 2017 No.2987681 >>2987244 Why are you like this?

>>	zoot allures !!+aX8gh7xHfM Sat May 20 22:32:07 2017 No.2987688 File: 789 KB, 1541x1405, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat May 20 22:32:45 2017 No.2987690

>>2987673
1. It's a sphere. So at this level you should be using solely a round brush for this type of blending, as well as following the form of the object so it doesn't look flat. "Follow the form" as in feeling like you're molding a sphere with clay with your hand (with your brush)

2. Either take more time blending or lower the softness of your brush to 20-40% when you blend so your transitions will look less jarring. Right now it looks like shit.

And for fucks sake draw with your shoulder when you do anything circular. Draw 100 circles a day as a warmup.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 22:38:31 2017 No.2987698 File: 1.48 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_0612.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tried painting and made an abomination. What're ways to improve on the lips, especially?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:01:29 2017 No.2987709 Anyone have any tips to learning how to draw with a graphics tablet? I'm going to imagine it's just because i'm day 1 into using it but it feels super uncomfortable. Is it because I'm used to paper and pencil all my life?

Anonymous Sat May 20 23:06:10 2017 No.2987711

>>2987698
The first advice I can give is flip the pic. The second is think of the lips as forms or shapes with volumes. Draw from life and ref, from different angles and from different ethnicities. Nigger lips are so fuuullll
>>2987709
Just draw, the first time you drew with a pencil/pen, you felt like that too. Draw whatever you like. Just don't post it here since it will all be rubish.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:07:30 2017 No.2987713 >>2987698 did you digitally paint something, print it out, turn it sideways, and then take the picture with a phone from the early 2000s?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:08:17 2017 No.2987715 Anons am I gonna make it?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:09:17 2017 No.2987717 >>2987715 Yes, we will.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:09:54 2017 No.2987718 File: 211 KB, 1000x1414, 1495336427393.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drew this for an Anon on /trash/. I know it's bad, but how do I fix it? Is there any trick to drawing legs?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:13:42 2017 No.2987720 Does anyone know how to pick your colours/values perfectly every time? e.g. i choose a skin tone and add shadow and it looks off as hell as soon as i copy off a tutorial for skin tones it doesnt look off.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:14:23 2017 No.2987721 File: 360 KB, 1471x1549, ebola chilf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987713 I actually did step one and four, but heres the full picture. It's still shit though.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:14:44 2017 No.2987722 >>2987720 Experience. You need to have seen every color out there and have used it before as well as know all the possible relations.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:16:11 2017 No.2987723 >>2987722 dang okay just gotta practice more then

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:18:55 2017 No.2987724 >>2987312 what do you mean by this? im guessing it just means you are drawing what youre observing and not taking into account the actual anatomy/structure?

Anonymous Sat May 20 23:27:53 2017 No.2987727

>>2987723
Fyi what he said is impossible. We humans xan detext something like 900 shades of red. Imagine every possible combination of colors... huge.

The okd masters used VERY limited palettes. Look at Titian. The secret is to find YOUR palette.

Loomis doesnt teach color. Read about neo impressionist colors, its very informative

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:32:26 2017 No.2987730 >>2987149 Why not? A man can never acquire too many skills.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:32:37 2017 No.2987731 >>2987727 Not that anon, but can you talk more about this?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:33:50 2017 No.2987732 >>2987730 I was genuinely asking actually. Curious what your reasoning is. Especially coming to /ic/ of all places.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:34:37 2017 No.2987734 >>2987727 am that anon, can you talk more about it?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 20 23:35:15 2017 No.2987735 >>2987724 nvm referred to sticky

Anonymous Sat May 20 23:51:56 2017 No.2987748

>>2987732
I do a lot of freelance programming and though it'd be nice to do some of my own graphic design for my personal projects. It was fun and I wasn't terrible at vector art, so I decided to go a step further and learn to draw as a hobby.

As far as /ic/, I've been on 4chan for like a decade now, so why not /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:15:36 2017 No.2987802 idea guy here transparent pens and hands so you can see the paper while you draw

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:20:07 2017 No.2987803 >>2987802 No need because the hand doesn't cover your drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:46:39 2017 No.2987817 Any idea how many hours of constant drawing a 0.35mm felt tip pen will last you for?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:47:06 2017 No.2987819 >>2987817 It says it on the pen, doesn't it? 16 hours.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:49:39 2017 No.2987821 File: 74 KB, 900x720, 2017-20-5 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987673

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 01:50:45 2017 No.2987822 >>2987819 Doesn't say on mine anywhere, but damn, that's pretty short. Guess I should order some backups.

Anonymous Sun May 21 01:52:47 2017 No.2987825

Hey guys, I haven't really drawn in a few years and I feel like I lost some of my skills and have no inspiration.
What gets you all to draw? I feel like I have little creativity. Even back when I did draw I mostly drew video game shit.
I would like to draw more surreal stuff but anything to really get me drawing again would be great.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:13:29 2017 No.2987837 so i have this problem where i do a drawing, leave to eat stuff and as soon as i come back i see all the faults in the drawing is there anyway other than flipping the canvas to "refresh" your brain without using a lot of time?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:19:45 2017 No.2987842 File: 1.99 MB, 1544x1949, contour.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >everything should be broken down into cubes, cylinders, and other primitives >now draw these weird organic blobs Am I missing something here?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:23:33 2017 No.2987844 >>2987842 it's almost like... there are complex forms in the world

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:24:53 2017 No.2987845 >>2987825 I know this feel, bro, and the solution is simpler than you think. You just take your drawing utensil, think up literally any idea, and start drawing. It draws you in partway.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:28:13 2017 No.2987846 >>2987844 the universe is made up of millions of infinitely small cubes stacked like legos

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 02:59:54 2017 No.2987867 >>2987837 Mirror

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:17:01 2017 No.2987878 >>2987842 you will understand when you do this a bunch of times then look at the vilppu drawing manual. you will see what he means by everything can be broken down into either boxes cylinders or other organic forms .

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:26:07 2017 No.2987886 >>2987846 If the cubes are infinitely small, then even a million of them would take up an infinitely small amount of space though?

>>	Kem Sun May 21 03:42:15 2017 No.2987897 File: 580 KB, 5601x3300, 10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone critic my artwork? It'd be more helpful if someone does critic me in general. like in how I am lacking at some things you can see.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 03:53:38 2017 No.2987904 >>2987897 >5601x3300

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 04:08:38 2017 No.2987906 >>2987897 seems like a solid underdrawing ready color and clean up

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 04:23:25 2017 No.2987914 File: 246 KB, 847x661, dwaf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what should i workin most?

Anonymous Sun May 21 04:29:28 2017 No.2987919

>>2987914
The shape of her eyes is way too different. And you should probably get rid of these "expressive" thick memebrows that look more like stickers. Add more shadow below the nose and in the eyeballs.

There's also too much space between her clavicles and that pit in the neck.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 04:59:07 2017 No.2987933 >>2987897 her shoulder/upper arm seems off. like the socket isnt where it should be or something. i could be wrong though

Anonymous Sun May 21 05:04:29 2017 No.2987940
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Pls bully before I start coloring this.

I'm mainly interested in:
1) How the face and head look (I have spent too much time looking at them, so I'm not really sure if my eyes aren't deceiving me anymore).
2) Whether yunomi, the cup of tea that the viewer is carrying, looks okay.
3) Whether the spine looks alright.

Anonymous Sun May 21 05:57:24 2017 No.2987972
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So I made a little more progress on this.
I don't think this is the right way to do these studies, but I start by trying to block in colors like in >>2987505. However, I always find myself having to zoom in both the painting and reference to capture any more detail. The problem is when I'm zoomed in that much, my process boils down to just being a copy machine, wherein I'm just trying to mimic this narrow window of colors and values as opposed to seeing the broader picture to help my understanding of the subject. Basically, I don't think I'm learning anything from doing this other than getting more familiar with my tools.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 06:07:01 2017 No.2987981 File: 120 KB, 1000x750, tendies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986888 i tried

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 06:11:08 2017 No.2987984 >>2987981 not sure if tendie or cloud

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 06:27:58 2017 No.2988000 File: 70 KB, 1189x893, painting23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986705 Tried to be OK with contrast.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 06:55:57 2017 No.2988016 File: 1.76 MB, 2859x2152, 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] halp

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 07:02:18 2017 No.2988019 >>2987681 Why am I like what, an autist? Because I'm on 4chan. You are too.

Anonymous Sun May 21 07:05:36 2017 No.2988021
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Maybe I should just practice the simple form of the head more. I haven't got to the point in "Drawing the Head and Hands" where Loomis discusses planes yet, so perhaps I'm focusing too much on the facial features

Anonymous Sun May 21 07:11:06 2017 No.2988024

>>2988021
Are those drawn without reference? If yes, there IS a noticeable improvement already, but you need to pay more attention to positioning the features, like with the eyes of the middle portrait. And not making the head too long horizontally, too.

Keep going, you'll make it.

Anonymous Sun May 21 07:23:33 2017 No.2988028

>>2988000
I won't go into measurement errors because you can use your own eye to work that out but look at the thumbnail. Huge difference in values. Like a retarded difference it's not even close. You need to set your color picker right next to your ref, use it to choose your value, and paint over the ref with a brushstroke to see if you got it right. If it's wrong do it again until it's right and block it in. Also what helps in determining values is blocking in the background as well since it's a little dark and painting on a lighter canvas will mess with your perception of values. Also there are weird things like unrendered eyelids that make it look flat and symbol-y. All around take more time on it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 07:31:44 2017 No.2988033 >>2988000 The woman in the reference image looks like a Southeast Asian, but you drew her like an East Asian.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 07:56:58 2017 No.2988048 >>2987410 she sure didn't skip legday, perspective on her right feet is off and the shoulder of the arm with the apple seems a bit too small.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 08:11:24 2017 No.2988055 How do I go from a pen drawing to a clean digital image? Scan it and trace in illustrator?

Anonymous Sun May 21 08:24:31 2017 No.2988062
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>>2987972
When you're copying colors and values the trick to remembering hoe you did it is to watch how the color hue on the color wheel change to other hues. Also, see how much the colors desaturate and how much they go down or up in value. Really when you're studying colors it boils down to is knowing how to strategically place a midtone, shadow tone, and light color, and then you put in all the extra rendering later. Reflected light, highlights, and textures are the last steps so if you get the 3 initial tones right, everything else will work.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 08:26:31 2017 No.2988063 >>2988055 You sell your soul to become Feng Zhu that's how.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 09:45:45 2017 No.2988140 File: 933 KB, 2560x1440, 1495374286131-52575314.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got tired of loomis so i doodled something for ic

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 09:46:18 2017 No.2988141 >>2988016 for starters, get rid of you chicken scratching, dear lord... I can barely see what's going on then just do more real life studies.

Anonymous Sun May 21 10:33:11 2017 No.2988205
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Fuck, I just don't get perspective. Sure it's not that hard when you can use 2 point perspective and draw basic shapes, but when I get to humans and then their limbs are bent in all sorts of difficult angles my brain just melts thinking about it.
How do you not get lost when dealing with something so complicated?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 10:59:42 2017 No.2988231 >>2988140 stop studying just boobs

Anonymous Sun May 21 11:02:46 2017 No.2988233

>>2988205
honestly its more about memorization and visual library
just like how you can add texture and patterns to your visual library you can add poses and limb angles to.
find a limb angle you want to do and then look up references of and practice it until you've got it. then you can use that limb angle any time you want

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:12:31 2017 No.2988241 >>2988205 >>2988233 Read a lot of action manga and you'll get the idea of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:30:02 2017 No.2988253 >>2988205 draw 20 pages of your mannequin from different angles and heights

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:45:42 2017 No.2988268 File: 199 KB, 1000x639, time2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Really...makes me think.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:46:21 2017 No.2988270 File: 189 KB, 1071x397, tendie.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986888 i tried

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:49:25 2017 No.2988272 >>2988270 A jagged shelly, moss covered slug thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:55:47 2017 No.2988278 File: 285 KB, 1024x768, tendie titan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2988270 >>2988272

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 11:58:02 2017 No.2988279 >>2988278 I want this thing fighting Proko's Kangasaurous

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:14:03 2017 No.2988301 are there any /ic/ communities on places other than discord, preferrably irc?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:17:01 2017 No.2988305 >>2986702 I see someone drew PixyTeri.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:21:36 2017 No.2988310 File: 49 KB, 320x351, panel-153331993-image-2f25507a216aba56-320-320.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2987721 Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door. Tumblr is 2 blocks down.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:25:11 2017 No.2988313 >>2987721 >>2987760 Christ, this fucking flat-ass sameface Same person or is the tumblrite hivemind not a meme?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:26:30 2017 No.2988314 >>2988231 I made this for you, i never study boobs

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:31:31 2017 No.2988319 >>2988314 >> i never study boobs "NGMI" was never more appropriate of a response.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 12:43:09 2017 No.2988327 >>2987313 No

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:14:44 2017 No.2988351 Where can I buy red lead pencils here in Manila? Any other stores to buy from other than National Bookstore or shoukd I just buy Faber and call it a day

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:30:26 2017 No.2988361 File: 337 KB, 604x1026, 20170521_132754-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any advice/fixes before I start lining and detailing?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:34:31 2017 No.2988368 >>2988361 Learn how to construct your shit first. Then rough it out, then add detail. You've skipped that step, which means you gave her trex arms along with a head too big for her body. Also is that that a photo of a fucking screen?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:42:15 2017 No.2988377 >>2988368 It's paper anon. What are you on about? I do have a problem with the head. It always comes out way too big. The arms are usually golden

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 13:46:15 2017 No.2988380 >>2988377 >those arms >golden

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 14:11:19 2017 No.2988402 >>2988361 a lot of bad proportions/unnecessary creases

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:21:42 2017 No.2988497 Is tracing bad?

Anonymous Sun May 21 15:28:34 2017 No.2988510

>>2988497
It depends.
Tracing to "create" another picture is bad and unproductive.
Tracing a picture you like—to learn the trick to, say, a facial expression—isn't. (Actually it is a very powerful method of learning how to do a good expression, if the picture is too complex for your brain to process how it's done.) Directly copypasting the trace to your picture IS.
Tracing a picture and comparing the trace to your study of it to see your mistakes isn't bad too. Tracing it to fix your mistakes... is most likely NG.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:31:13 2017 No.2988516 >>2988497 Short answer: yup

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:32:30 2017 No.2988517 >>2988516 short answer: it depends.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:33:20 2017 No.2988520 Just drawn this piece of shit from /s/. i'll go read the sticky now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:33:44 2017 No.2988522 >>2988497 Tracing helps you learn how to do something, not to do something: >>2987260 Learn the basics of how to do it and then start using references instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:36:40 2017 No.2988527 >>2988517 Don't you ever correct one of my posts ever again you little fucking worm.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:36:48 2017 No.2988528 File: 2.57 MB, 4160x2340, IMG_20170521_212448877.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2988520 Fuck I though I had stopped the post.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:39:59 2017 No.2988536 >>2988520 >>2988528 Good idea. Read the op while you're at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:48:50 2017 No.2988549 File: 238 KB, 426x631, 20170521_124827.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2988528

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 15:49:45 2017 No.2988550 >>2988528 nightmare fuel

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:02:58 2017 No.2988565 >>2987698 resize

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:04:25 2017 No.2988567 >>2988016 stop drawing with your wrist

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:06:28 2017 No.2988570 >>2988268 You are regressing. Sometimes you've just gotta quite while you're up.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:08:09 2017 No.2988572 File: 304 KB, 1713x1120, 1495340557295.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What can I improve in this picture? Didn't get any constructive replies in Alt Stylization.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:11:14 2017 No.2988576 >>2988572 >pillow shading >fish lips

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:11:28 2017 No.2988577 >>2986812 Head on the right looks like it doesnt have enough neck or perhaps should be ever so slightly larger to convey the protruding neck

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:12:08 2017 No.2988579 >>2988572 Take a solid black brush and paint the whole thing over.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:30:19 2017 No.2988610 >>2988572 >there are actual people who cannot take a step back and observe their own work critically.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 16:30:20 2017 No.2988611 File: 92 KB, 344x315, 1494018555910.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2988527

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:55:06 2017 No.2988732 How should I hold my pen while drawing? Same grip as when I'm writing?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:57:24 2017 No.2988736 File: 230 KB, 896x1052, 1495404305844.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I used a reference for this, but it came out as this weird half-anime thing. What're you friends' thoughts on this?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:57:40 2017 No.2988738 >>2988732 depends on the line. sometimes you hold it like a brush, sometimes like a pen, sometimes you just hold the end of the pen

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 17:57:56 2017 No.2988740 File: 72 KB, 500x388, tumblr_lp8pbzZWu81qzcd3bo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2988736 Reference used.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:07:43 2017 No.2988748 File: 1.22 MB, 2048x1536, IMG_0480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2986705 >>2986706

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:10:14 2017 No.2988752 File: 198 KB, 612x816, bench.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sketching outdoors

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:11:43 2017 No.2988755 >>2988736 You drew what you think is there, not what actually IS there.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:13:29 2017 No.2988759 how do i stop procrastinating

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:19:41 2017 No.2988766 >>2988759 You can't.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:20:18 2017 No.2988767 >>2988759 If you have a mental illness (depression, adhd, whatever) get medicated or get treatment. Other than that, just sit down and fucking draw and don't let yourself get distracted

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:23:58 2017 No.2988771 >>2988759 find something more important to do than drawing then turn drawing into procrastination from that thing

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:38:39 2017 No.2988791 File: 159 KB, 1273x765, pose1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] From imagination. How is it?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:44:10 2017 No.2988803 >>2988268 >>2988570 He's not regressing. He's plateauing. It's shit. It'll continue to be shit. Unless, he get his head out of his ass and learn properly.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 18:48:07 2017 No.2988811 >>2988803 >muh fundies

Anonymous Sun May 21 19:05:46 2017 No.2988840

>>2988791

For a beginner, not bad - but I'd strongly suggest looking up gesture on youtube and practice that daily. After that move on to anatomy proportions. I'm not an art teacher so I can't say for sure, but it looks like you are using forced perspective to compensate for not having an established foundation for proportion. If it's any consolation the two hardest and largest steps are anatomy proportion and learning gesture. Beyond that everything else is much easier.

Other than the skull, everything else are bad habits if you move too far in that direction.

Try and do gesture for 30 minutes a day for about 2 weeks then do 30 gesture 30 volumes from then on. There are probably thousands of inexpensive digital lessons that will guide you on this. Please don't reinforce something that you will have to unlearn later if you are serious about art.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:15:52 2017 No.2988853 board culture question, is it acceptable to post submissions for things in other threads, like that my style/your style stuff or tower girls, even if you're really shitty?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:20:49 2017 No.2988859 >>2988811 You one of those huh? keep going then...

Anonymous Sun May 21 19:33:40 2017 No.2988872
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>>2988840
>you are using forced perspective to compensate for not having an established foundation for proportion.
When exactly does perspective become forced? I thought you're supposed to incorporate perspective.
As for proportions I doodled this out. How fucked was the first and did I fix it?
I'm pretty sure I fucked up the legs, and in hindsight I did omit them from my previous drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 19:34:38 2017 No.2988874 >>2988853 Post your work and hope someone experienced will critique it.

Anonymous Sun May 21 19:42:02 2017 No.2988881

>>2988872
not an expert here, but as someone who doesn't know proportions, oftentimes what I do is just start drawing, and then as I make mistakes in the proportion I adjust the perspective I'm thinking of the form in to match the lines that I drew instead of getting things right. That's what I'd guess he's talkign about

Anonymous Sun May 21 19:46:18 2017 No.2988888
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>>2988881
>oftentimes what I do is just start drawing, and then as I make mistakes in the proportion I adjust the perspective I'm thinking of the form in to match the lines that I drew instead of getting things right
...why would you even do that? How the fuck does that even work?
post work

Anonymous Sun May 21 20:03:59 2017 No.2988911

What can I do to get me to draw something?
The only stuff I think I'm decent at drawing are tanks and some vidya related stuff, but I'd really like to be more original.
I don't frequent /ic/ often, but does anyone have one of those pictures that makes you roll to try something new?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:06:26 2017 No.2988915 >>2988736 Forget construction and focus on training your observation skill. There's books in sticky that guides pure beginners in this.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:06:42 2017 No.2988917 >>2988888 check

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:22:51 2017 No.2988955 >>2988911 How about you read the sticky and study the recommended books and videos.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:25:10 2017 No.2988960 File: 276 KB, 2000x1500, shion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2988888 well, for instance, I was intending for the view of the head to be straight on, but then I fucked a lot of things up and readapted it into a 3/4 view...

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:33:00 2017 No.2988973 >>2988759 Start putting off procrastinating by doing other things

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:37:36 2017 No.2988982 I'm new in digital art, and I installed "Krita". Been using few brushes, but can't get the effect I want. Is there a good tutorial or advice?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:45:09 2017 No.2988994 File: 17 KB, 273x300, 3246546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I left for a few months and /beg/ is full of anime doodles...

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 20:48:42 2017 No.2988999 File: 814 KB, 2560x1440, 1495413458786624971909.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Help

Anonymous Sun May 21 21:30:29 2017 No.2989073
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>>2988748
tried another one, a pic from the old thread >>2984445

i'm starting to pick up on the fact my values don;t have enough contrast so i tried to go a bit darker on the shadows. still suck with proportions though. advice welcome

>>	NoseBro Sun May 21 21:35:18 2017 No.2989079 >>2988872 youre not supposed to include the fucking neck in your headcount.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:01:27 2017 No.2989100 learning hands is so easy because you have perfect, instant, easy, varied and irl reference right in front of you at all times. who else /making comfy and steady gains every day/ here?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:03:51 2017 No.2989104 File: 28 KB, 570x365, 20170521_wip_update2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:15:24 2017 No.2989111 File: 575 KB, 998x720, KUYASHI.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2988994 >go to Alternative Art/Stylization General with my shitty animu doodles >get loomised and btfo to beg >mfw this nigga

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:16:36 2017 No.2989113 File: 104 KB, 600x800, aniexty.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] still in concept mode, how can I make it seem more alive and less stiff?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:19:30 2017 No.2989115 File: 1.37 MB, 1119x642, 2017-05-18-13-33-01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did i do gud?

Anonymous Sun May 21 22:19:54 2017 No.2989116
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finally figured out how to fucking work digital and holy shit is it annoying to figure out brushes. Also, fuck layers for now. All I had was 3 at the end and even then I was a fumbling.

Either way, it feels a bit more forgiving when it comes to mistakes and coloring. I'm not really able to work with colors since I'm worried about messing the entire work up.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:21:01 2017 No.2989119 >>2989116 Also, I know I'm doing chicken scratch on multiple places. I was messing with the top of the skull a bunch and starting getting frustrated

>>	Anonymous Sun May 21 22:32:48 2017 No.2989128 >>2988888 nice but check mine

Anonymous Sun May 21 23:56:41 2017 No.2989202
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I'm trying to follow Proko's videos and I've run into trouble...I cannot seem to picture at all how the boxes are from the side, specifically.

Should I return to studying something more basic? What am I seeing wrong, here? I can tell it's off but when I redraw it over and over, I still can't really nail it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 00:28:09 2017 No.2989226 >>2989202 let me guess, half an hour of practice a day

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 00:32:06 2017 No.2989229 >>2989226 that's generous

Anonymous Mon May 22 00:37:45 2017 No.2989231

one day im going to make a chan based on vichan that is basically /ic/ with incredibly authoritarian rulesets that permaban posters like this >>2989229 on site. a place of stoicism, discipline and elitist mindsets. a place where beginners can train without the petulant and putrescent influence of milquetoasts and unmotivated individuals. it will be our outer heaven. a safe space without degeneracy and infantilism for the driven and stalwart of proper work ethic and effort.

one day when i am good i'll make this chan. i'll make it for the people.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:11:55 2017 No.2989271 >>2987897 The elbow is wrong. Bring it to the left towards her body a bit. Her arm is just way too long but you have good shading and a decently interesting composition.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:16:43 2017 No.2989277 >>2989202 What are you even talking about. it's drawing boxes, not rocket science. You don't have to get this exact. You just need a basic idea of it and move on. Just keep drawing, anon. jesus.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:17:50 2017 No.2989278 >>2989231 i bet you wouldn't last a day in one of those places

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:19:14 2017 No.2989279 >>2989278 >this fucking response

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:19:44 2017 No.2989280 >>2989231 did you take your clonidine today

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 01:20:27 2017 No.2989281 >>2988872 Sticky Loomis Basic. Learn it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 02:22:50 2017 No.2989351 >>2989277 yeah, but I guess I just want the perspective right on the boxes. I don't want to build on top of shoddy construction. If I'm overthinking it then fair enough

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 02:32:18 2017 No.2989359 File: 1.57 MB, 4032x3024, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I doing this right? Self portrait.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 02:34:36 2017 No.2989363 File: 1.07 MB, 1932x2576, IMG_0377.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2989359 Reference

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 02:44:12 2017 No.2989369 >>2989359 >>2989363 For starters, read op.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 02:51:51 2017 No.2989384 >>2989369 But then I'd have to send it to my pc and get on my email, download the file, open paint, open the file, resize it, get on 4chan on my computer,and post that. Is there some resizing app I can use for iPhones?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 02:52:54 2017 No.2989387 >>2989384 if only there was a way to do it on phones in the OP..

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 02:53:58 2017 No.2989388 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376 >>2989376

>>	Anonymous Mon May 22 10:11:14 2017 No.2989842 File: 367 KB, 562x712, male and female skeleton[8].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2989202

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