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This is opus magnum about drawing human, or i should look for something different?

>> No.2953895

Yes but it's not for beginners. It assumes you know the basics of how to draw shit.

>> No.2953909

>>2953881
If you want to sculpt Art Deco sculptures, read Loomis because he's already abstracting planes when he teaches. Learning to draw from stylized pictures is just backwards. Angles = stylization.

>> No.2953990

>>2953881
I tried it, but it was too condensed and felt more geared to those who just needed reference. So I'm looking at other books right now that might be a bit more clear on how to draw.

>> No.2954727

>>2953881
It's the only non-meme Loomis book.

>> No.2954815

>>2954727
that's not Fun with a Pencil

>> No.2954842

>>2953990
I agree. To be honest I had much more luck learning things with Michael Hampton's book. Loomis assumes that if you copy enough black and white ecorches you'll get a good feel for it but really there's too much information too quickly that is too condensed. Learning dozens of names for muscles in the arm isn't how you draw a good arm, drawing by checklist is unnatural and unintuitive. Also half the book is just a lot of figures in certain kinds of poses you're suppose to copy and that too is a sub optimal way to learn.

>>2954727
Personally I think Loomis' best books are Drawing the Head and Hands and Creative Illustration.

>> No.2954856

>>2954727
DUDE MEME LMAO
fucking die I hope you get cancer

>> No.2954868

>>2954856
That's not funny, I was recently diagnosed with melanoma you asshole.

>> No.2954871

>>2954868
More like MEMEanoma, amirite? Badum-tsh!

>> No.2954873

>>2954871
I don't get it.

>> No.2954882
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2954882

>>2953881
>>2954815
>>2954842
>>2954727

I imagine Loomis' Fun With a Pencil is best approached with an understanding of perspective drawing, is it not? I am returning to drawing, and tried Loomis again, to find it was more difficult, and that I couldn't accurately sketch the face frame. With Loomis' method of construction, I feel like anything I try to make turns to shit because it over-complicates it...which should be the reverse, wouldn't you imagine? It's like it cascades inwards.

I've studied perspective up to third-point, but I don't see how I can construct forms quickly with such a tedious form of creation like perspective drawing. I know some people do a rough sketch and then modify it with perspective drawing adjustments, but that doesn't seem like it would speed it up at all.

>> No.2955254

>>2954882
>don't see how I can construct forms quickly with such a tedious form of creation like perspective drawing.
>but that doesn't seem like it would speed it up at all.

The speed advantage is in getting it right the first time, rather than having to draw and redraw and redraw because you keep fucking it up because you don't know perspective.

Also, internalization: Do enough perspective drawing and it becomes second nature. The tedious setup is a learning tool.

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2955375

>fucking loomis

>not Vilppu drawing manual
>not Hampton figure drawing design and invention

NO WONDER THIS BOARD IS STILL SO FUCKING SHIT AFTER SO MANY YEARS

>> No.2955380

>>2954882
Did you read the text?
About half of the important info is written.

Loomis is difficult at first. It took me a couple of years before I got his face drawing method down.
You're not going to get it perfectly on the first read-through

>> No.2955803

>>2953881
Loomis is worthless, learn perspective, then Anatomy for Sculptors and then study a bit of photography/cinematography to learn composition and storytelling.

Loomis's books are but a lick of the most useless parts of each topic and will leave you wasting your time in /ic/ forever wondering why you never improve while people who've never even heard his name are working in visdev or becoming famous out of high-school.