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Questions & Answers Thread Derek - /ic/s number 1 picture(...) Thu Mar 23 22:33:37 2017 No.2912011 [Reply] [Original]

Don't know where to start? We have multiple stickies >>1579290 → → → and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj please read them as most of your common woes are here.

Want to build a habit drawing? And DOX the fuck out of a website admin? Check out Last Artist Standing: >>2908558

Want to break into the Japanese Cartoon industry and become the next miyamoto shirayuki hime the 3rd? Of course you do. Check out the anime* thread: >>2905096

General draw thread: >>2906338

Beginner thread (use this if you're brand new to drawing and want to be around beginner anons striving for the goal to become great) >>2910335

Degenerac--I mean Porn Thread >> inai yo! make one and revive it

Animation Thread >>2905375

Artbook thread >>2889695

Please refrain from making your threads if you only have a single question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:36:23 2017 No.2912016 >>2912011 >Want to build a habit drawing? And DOX the fuck out of a website admin? What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:38:59 2017 No.2912023 do you keep your lewd artwork on a separate account from your sfw stuff? if so, where do you draw the line between lewd and sfw? on which side does cheesecake belong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:43:45 2017 No.2912033 What do anons mean when they say "overlapping brush strokes" in regards to painting/rendering and is it supposed to be a bad thing?

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 03:28:02 2017 No.2912282

I know a lot of artists use Pinterest for reference and inspiration, as do I. But they been fucking around with the UI and now you can't view other users likes. This sucks because a lot of artists I followed had normie boards and then used their likes for references so I was able to see their inspiration, but now it redirects to their main page. Anyone know how I can stop it from redirecting? I just wanna save some stuff before Pinterest nukes the feature altogether.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:06:51 2017 No.2912426 >>2912023 some artist make separate accounts, it really all depends if you give enough fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:07:57 2017 No.2912428 >>2912011 I wish I could put my answer between a busty girls breasts

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:04:45 2017 No.2912714
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Ok, how do I indicate chainmail with pen and ink without making it look too busy.
I've been trying so hard to figure it out. Study after study, I just can't get it the way that looks good and non distracting.

Any artists come to mind that I could look at for some master studies? I'm trying to avoid the generic cross hatch look. But I can't seem to make anything other than a scribbly mess of shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:08:07 2017 No.2912717 File: 77 KB, 658x632, 1489916841153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i forgot the how to draw. proportions are getting off. what the fck is happening to me?

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:08:39 2017 No.2912719
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>>2912714

I've been trying and failing to do the same thing for a while.

You might want to flip through this book, you can find it on CGPeers I think, probably the art book thread too. It's mostly pen illustrations of arms and armor.

A lot of the chainmain stuff is pretty intricate still, though. I don't really know an effective way to abstract it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:48:02 2017 No.2912761 How do you jump from mediocre to good? Sometimes it feels you are so close, yet so far.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:54:12 2017 No.2912766

>>2912761

I think it's just mileage. Jumping from bad to mediocre is a lot quicker and better defined than mediocre to good, and I think it's also a lot more subjective.

By the time you're mediocre you probably know your fundies but haven't mastered them, so getting good is a matter of refining. The big trap for mediocre artists, I think, is the comfort zone. Avoiding refining fundies they're not comfortable with and focusing too much on what they're already better at. It makes their end product unbalanced, because one or two flawed fundies will make it look bad even if, say, the rendering is good.

That said I'm in your boat, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:10:53 2017 No.2912778 I need to draw some pipes and I got a bit confused with ellipses. I have the long axis (the width of the pipe), horizon, vanishing points. And how do I find the short axis?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:17:46 2017 No.2912781 >>2912766 I'm inclined to believe mileage really is the thing too, but ofc deep down I want it to have a shortcut to ease the pain.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:56:09 2017 No.2912818
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How much time do you actually spend looking at your own art? Discounting drawing. That means actually looking at it without a pen in your hand or any way to mess with it whatsoever.

I think that the majority of artists just get sick of looking at the same thing for many hours and then never look at their own piece again.

I-m asking this because I was forced to look at my art for some time without being psychically able to draw or erase stuff. And the kind of ideas that popped into my head were different from the kind that I get while drawing. Then I think about how oil paints had COULDN'T work because they had to wait for the oil to dry, therefore they were forced to stare at an unfinished painting unable to do anything. Maybe this actually helps creativity?

And then this fag
https://youtu.be/EU6gSMLsCrg?t=40m7s
Says that tools control our thoughts and not the reverse. Surely if you were holding a flamethrower RIGHT NOW your ideas would be different than your regular self right?

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 17:32:56 2017 No.2912934

I'm going through Keys and doing daily portraits, but I can't seem to get rid of symbol drawing when it comes to eyes and lips.

Should I really try hard on getting it right through observation alone or should I look up tutorials on how to draw eyes/lips?

I fear if I look up those tutorials, I'll reinforce symbol drawing.

Thoughts?

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 17:47:27 2017 No.2912953

>>2912934
I'm having a lot of trouble too but I'm getting through it by drawing them from different angles because a lot of the symbol drawing thing (at least for me) is due to the fact that I only think about them in 2D and forcing me to look at them in other angles starts hammering the fact that eyes are 3D objects.

Eyelids are pretty fun to draw. Also never forget that eyes are spheres and eyelids wrap around.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 17:53:12 2017 No.2912964

>>2912953

Do you just draw them or do any construction before getting the more minute details right? I feel construction would help me, and it's what I'd try to get through tutorials.

I plan on doing 2 hours of random eyes drawing tomorrow, so either way I'll try to improve.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 17:57:34 2017 No.2912970 >>2912717 art is 10% dexterity, 90% knowledge your muscles can atrophy, your brain can forget art is like body building

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 19:29:25 2017 No.2913076 How do you call the optical effect of the atmosphere's color washing on landscape in the distance. Shit, I've got it on the tip of my tongue but can't get it out, it's atmospheric something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 19:34:33 2017 No.2913083 >>2913076 Atmospheric perspective? Aerial Perspective?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 19:38:00 2017 No.2913087 >>2913083 oh atmospheric perspective works, thx anon. I recall learning about it being atmospheric scattering which I just remembered.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 23:49:10 2017 No.2913312 I have a top scanner printer, with the intent to save web safe copies of my art for portfolios and print. What's a good graphics input tablet and pen combo for tracing over my scanned art?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 01:14:41 2017 No.2913423 >>2912818 Looking at my pic for an hour before bed usually, and during the day too. Can't stand the urge. Usually notice a lot of mistakes, inconsistencies, get new ideas. But don't overdo it, you need fresh eyes when you get to drawing again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 09:06:24 2017 No.2913754 >>2912717 you are starting to feel the effects of neuroplasticity loss; it only gets worse with age.

Anonymous Sat Mar 25 14:57:03 2017 No.2914107
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>>2912719
Alright so after hours of scouring, I asked a friend of mine who has read the Berserk manga if there was any chainmail. Since the art is pretty detailed, I thought it might be a good shot. My friend was able to find this one instance that I feel is the best way to represent chainmail without being overbearing.

What's nice is you can get highlights, midtones, and darks all the while using simple c strokes. Make sure you go AROUND(Rows) the form and not WITH(Columns) the form, though, otherwise you'll lose the illusion of chainmail.
Though, the outline seemed a bit simple for my tastes, so I added slight bumps to the outline at each row.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 25 20:16:23 2017 No.2914468 File: 177 KB, 800x764, anime shota.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm feeling burnt out but I don't want to do anything else but draw. what do I do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 05:47:35 2017 No.2914987 As a digital main, having no laptop what are some affordable methods of drawing on the go such as drawing on a tablet or something, or should I just get over myself and do traditional outside?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 09:39:42 2017 No.2915139 >>2914987 just do traditional

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 18:18:12 2017 No.2915667 File: 727 KB, 1224x1632, FullSizeRender (3).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] am I moving in the right direction with this loomis thing? how long should I be spending on each exercise?

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 18:18:27 2017 No.2915669
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Does anyone here know a good tutorial on drawing wounds? Or have any advice? I've written something that's a bit edgy but I'm too much of a pussy to go look at photo refs unless I absolutely have to :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 19:49:12 2017 No.2915735 Are there any mental tips on drawing hands? Like something to keep in mind. I want to get better at drawing them but I don't always want to look up references

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 19:59:39 2017 No.2915754

Following right side of the brain and I'm at blind contour drawings, Should my pencil never leave the page? I went through the exercise once with my hand already but plan to do more and want to make sure I get the most out of it.

>>2915669
I don't know of any guides, but if the real stuff is a little much could you use movies or TV shows for references? It might not be perfect because its obviously not real, but it might give you a good starting point and those guys usually have to make stuff look believable for the audience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 20:00:30 2017 No.2915757 >>2915735 >I want to get better at drawing them but I don't always want to look up references You have hands you silly. Make a lot of studies of your non dominant hand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prteVqkD964

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 20:29:20 2017 No.2915785 Is Draw a Box a good place to start for a complete beginner?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 20:49:57 2017 No.2915800 File: 7 KB, 251x233, 1301777927715.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've just finished my first commission but I have no idea how paypal works or what I need to do to send a bill to my client, I'm way over my head here

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 20:51:29 2017 No.2915803 >>2915800 Invoice

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:27:13 2017 No.2916129

Need help with the texture challenge from drawbox

http://drawabox.com/lesson/texture

I'm still confused; for one the iguana scale textures he drew look nothing like the reference picture

and 'm still confused on which textures to draw, there are many different types of textures

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:12:11 2017 No.2916194 does anyone else have days where they just forget how to art? i know i'm shit still but jesus i just demoted back to stick figures this week

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:29:47 2017 No.2916317 Are mechanical pencils okay to use for sketching?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:46:43 2017 No.2916327 I can only freehand relatively straight lines within a very limited range of angles, like ~20-70 degrees. Is that normal? Should I specifically work freehanding lines from any angle?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:58:15 2017 No.2916433 Is drawing from digital pictures bad? Should I be drawing from life?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:11:05 2017 No.2916457

>>2916194
Yes

>yesterday, make nice dynamic pose within a minute
>today, can't even figure out a damn character likeness, redrawing the same shitty sketch for a fucking hour, nothing looks right

At times like this I don't know if I should keep pushing or take a break. For that particular case I gave up and am going to try doing something else entirely, but holy fuck it's frustrating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:23:23 2017 No.2916522 Is tracing a good way to improve line smoothness?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 13:22:33 2017 No.2916648 I have a general idea of what pillow shading is, but why is it even called that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:34:02 2017 No.2916730 File: 1.30 MB, 1072x1273, 1466734517466.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do any of you have any issues with Windows 10 and Clip Studio Paint? I get frequent crashes on this new PC I don't have anything else besides CSP installed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:35:02 2017 No.2916733 >>2916730 Nope, none at all. I have both of those. Although, I bought it, so that may be a difference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:35:15 2017 No.2916734 >>2916730 Your issue is having windows 10 installed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:36:34 2017 No.2916740 >>2916734 I've looked for another OS but all the new gear is cucked with Windows 10. >>2916733 I bought CSP too it's all legit I guess it must be hardware issues on this PC.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:38:28 2017 No.2916742
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Anyone here uses artrage?

What is the general opinion of this program?

I really like it but maybe that's because i haven't used anything else

Anyone knows where to find artrage 5 for free? They added a custom brush option

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:07:38 2017 No.2917227 >>2916740 > not building your own PC instead of buying a pre-built Come on, it's not rocket surgery.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:48:16 2017 No.2917262
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Which one /ic/?

I ordered a bunch of Copic refills that arrived today, and also my Nintendo switch arrived today...

Ordinarily I wouldn't care, but I only have 1 night to play because the rest of the week I will be at work and I probably won't come back home. Something blew up and my boss said this is the team's last free night before crazy work hours...

It sucks because now I feel like I have money to fund hobbies, but no time to actually do them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 23:49:29 2017 No.2917263 >>2917262 Which one matters to you more? Also what kind of job do you work so I know not to do the same mistake as you?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:09:40 2017 No.2917284

>>2917263
Programming job, but out of the 6 years that I have been working, only recently have things been "super hot" and required actual work. Previously, I have been too cheap to buy anything, but I finally splurged and was immediately punished by work.

>Which one matters to you more?
I'm trying to include what is practical into my decision making. I can bring Nintendo with me to play onsite or while I am commuting. I can't really bring all my markers with me. I would have to do Switch bring up tonight and how portable it is.

Alternatively, I could just do neither, and get some rest since I haven't been home since Thursday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 00:11:15 2017 No.2917285 >>2917262 You know the answer /ic/ is gonna give you, shit like "if this is even a decision ngmi" I'd play the switch and unwind if I knew I had a shitty week ahead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 01:12:40 2017 No.2917354 >>2917262 nice shitty piece of plastic you got there. its gonna break on you in a few days just like everyone elses.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:29:36 2017 No.2917475
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I want to buy the boyfriend a drawing tablet so he can stop drawing on his phone, but I don't know what to get. I don't have a lot of money, so can anyone recommend me a good, kinda cheapish option?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:55:50 2017 No.2917498
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Dunno if this is the right thread.
I liek this angle and pose and want to do my take on it, but can I trust the author's sense of perspective? The foot bugs me a bit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 02:59:29 2017 No.2917500 >>2917498 If you don't know, then just trust it. Or else you'll be doubting yourself your whole life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:04:57 2017 No.2917503 Thoughts on Istebrak? She seems to know her stuff in her stream but her portfolio seems lacking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:09:00 2017 No.2917506 File: 115 KB, 472x459, determination.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2917500 So be it, senpai. The right and proper is something one does not regret even if they have chosen wrongly.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:15:52 2017 No.2917511
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I've been depressed for a long time and it's making me lose confidence in my drawing. Even as I start, I think that it's already looking like garbage and lots of people will dislike it, so I end up never finishing it. This same thing is the reason why I haven't updated my artblog in 2 years. What can I do to kick this habit?

The pic is basically the only thing I've drawn all day that I like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:16:54 2017 No.2917514 >>2917511 One. Stop caring what other people will think. Two. Draw more. Three. Pump out all the garbage you can until only the good is left.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:25:52 2017 No.2917522 >>2917503 Don't know how good she is since I'm a beginner but she's entertaining at least, don't really do a lot of painting though so i find that a lot of her advice doesnt apply to me yet

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:30:12 2017 No.2917527

How does observational drawing help me? I basically know how to draw what i see to an acceptable degree but I want to draw lewd grills so does doing photo studies help me or? I feel like I'm just copying the photo and looking at the shapes instead of figuring out how the actual subject works. When drawing from imagination I have to constantly think can the arm bend like that, are these proportions correct etc and I feel like i learn a lot more from doing that but maybe I'm wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:31:16 2017 No.2917528 >>2917527 Observational drawing helps in many ways, but you ever think about how you draw from imagination because you can look at it? Observe it? Observational drawing.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:35:12 2017 No.2917535

>>2917528
Maybe I phrased my question wrong but i mainly meant doing photo studies or drawing from life. Is it one of those things where you train your brain to notice when proportions and angles look off or is it more about building up a visual library?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:36:47 2017 No.2917536

>>2917535
The answer is always everything.

But.

Since you mention drawing from imagination, it is different because you have to create. And for that, what helps is just drawing a lot and finding out all the right lines and shapes to use. Basically, trial and error.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:39:44 2017 No.2917539

>>2917536
Okay I think I understand because i got the impression that mostly drawing from imagination when you're a beginner is detrimental to your progress but if I focus on correct perspective and construction mixed in with studies/life drawing then it should be okay right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 03:41:41 2017 No.2917540 >>2917539 Perspective and construction are ways of helping you find those right lines and shapes. They're not magic though. You still have to draw a lot.

>>	NoseBro Tue Mar 28 03:58:38 2017 No.2917563 >>2917475 first off, normie REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Second off, get a huion, not the smallest model, at least 2.25 pen lengths diagonally.

>>	NoseBro Tue Mar 28 03:59:44 2017 No.2917564 >>2917284 >getting bullied into extra hours

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 04:09:03 2017 No.2917569

>>2917511
Draw for yourself my dude. Draw things you enjoy.

Find what you really want to learn. Go look at your favorite art and art you haven't seen before. Go listen to artists that inspire you. Enjoy the process of improving step by step.

Drawing is fun man, and incredibly rewarding. You'll see.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 07:47:11 2017 No.2917660 File: 779 KB, 1200x903, 1443898320343.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the optimal amount of alcohol to drink to maximize your artistic ability?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 09:34:14 2017 No.2917706 >>2917563 You should be my husbando too. Thanks for the recommendations, do you have any specific ones I should look at? I'm not really sure what to get.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 09:56:25 2017 No.2917720 Is it possible to use an Android tablet as a poor man's Cintiq?

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:13:03 2017 No.2917734

>>2917720
Pretty sure there's no pressure sensitivity on those kind of tablets. Probably no outstanding graphics apps, either. Screen mirroring your desktop to use it with Photoshop or something would probably be laggy as hell.

If you're fine with those limitations, then go for it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:29:52 2017 No.2917743
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>>2917660
None. Drinking to be better at art is like saying music helps you study.

Some faggots do it because they're retarded but it only hinders you.

It also doesn't make you a better driver.

I've drank on a daily basis for the last 4 years and I've learned I can't write, draw, program, play games, or cook better while drunk, among other things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:39:01 2017 No.2917751 >>2917743 Drinking makes you a better programmer and programming is the same as drawing though

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:43:31 2017 No.2917756

>>2917751
It doesn't, anon. Stop it.

Sipping on your mom's Mike's Hard Lemonade while programming is not "drinking." You don't know what you're talking about.

You try actually drinking while coding and you're going to wake up the next day with line after line of retarded decisions and missing punctuation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:50:07 2017 No.2917763 File: 625 KB, 957x960, 1350187647297.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2917756 >resorts to ad hominem It's like even you know you're wrong but you keep posting anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:51:18 2017 No.2917765 >>2917763 Yeah I'm not gonna keep replying to an obvious troll, but you can just go ahead and look up how alcohol affects you on your own. It's not even a debate, it clearly inhibits your abilities across all fronts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 10:52:31 2017 No.2917768 >>2917765 Cool story, bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 11:32:54 2017 No.2917822 Wich books teach clothing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 14:15:19 2017 No.2918003 are there any good how-to guides for gouache for people who have never painted before? i've been digital painting for a while and wanted to get into physical stuff but i feel like im doing everything wrong

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:12:59 2017 No.2918071

>>2917262
Zelda is amazing man, go play the switch. First day I got it I played and forgot about anything else. After the hype cooled down I was able to focus on other things, and started doing practice.

You can take the switch with you and play during breaks

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:17:02 2017 No.2918079 File: 63 KB, 720x478, example_wasp2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How long did it take you to "get" form? I'm "aware" of it but my drawings are still flat, I don't think about them when I draw, it's mostly lines and shapes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:18:56 2017 No.2918081 >>2918079 Post your work.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:29:26 2017 No.2918104
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>>2917706
To add to this; 2.25 pen lengths would be over 15 inches, which appears to be larger than any diagonal length their tablets have unless I'm just being retarded and didn't do my math correctly. I was thinking about this one: https://www.huiontablet.com/all-products/graphic-tablets/h610.html
Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:29:47 2017 No.2918105 File: 529 KB, 656x744, mantits.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2918081 >ask beginner question meaning I'm obviously a beginner-tier >still tell me to post work Well ok have this sketch. ;_; Was made for an /a/ request.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:43:51 2017 No.2918120
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>>2918105
I didn't consider myself a beginner and you are still better than me, nigger.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:53:50 2017 No.2918129
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First time here, I'll try to be short:
How does one get a realistic style like the one on the picture?
What I mean is, that if you look at his features, they are all pretty realistic yet still aesthetically stylized.
1/2

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 15:54:20 2017 No.2918130 File: 516 KB, 900x1384, suiciders-1-6-2cc08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2918129 2/2

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 16:49:12 2017 No.2918169 Here's my question Why do all the fucking pro's go to the beginner thread and ask for advice I can't post my chicken scratch alien proportion humans when in the post above me some da vinci wannabe is complaining he misplaced a pixel

>>	Derek Tue Mar 28 16:55:23 2017 No.2918174 >>2918169 Maybe we should split the beginner thread into /beg/ and intermediate....we all know how that went.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:20:20 2017 No.2918197
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does anybody have that infographic talking about the importance of value in indicating form?

it had a black bg and showed 4 donuts, like this:

good color, good value | good color, bad value
bad color, good value | bad color, bad value

and the point was that even with bad/messy color as long as the value was good it still looked 3d

craig mullins has a similar exercise that he did at accd

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 17:31:41 2017 No.2918206 >>2918129 experiementing a lot wth shapes and proportions

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 19:28:50 2017 No.2918310 >>2918120 Thank you? I'm not a beginner timewise because I've been drawing for years, but I lack any sort of fundamental knowledge, never studied. That's why I consider myself beginner, and am now trying to learn the basics.

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:17:16 2017 No.2918347

>>2915785
yes if it gets you drawing
>>2916327
no, just get used to rotating the paper, or if digital hotkey the rotate tool to a tablet button
>>2916317
I hate them because no line weight variation and they dig way into your paper but if it gets you drawing then who cares
>>2916522
no, just do freehand ellipses or something, drawing from your shoulder, tracing will only tense you up
>>2917822
hogarth if you mean rendering drapery, if you mean design pic related is pretty good inspo, nice combination of historical and imaginative
>>2918003
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2016/07/gouache-materials-list.html
I would start there and follow his links at the bottom

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 28 20:18:03 2017 No.2918348 File: 45 KB, 390x500, 51FDeNBAmvL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2918347 forgot pic for >>2917822

Anonymous Tue Mar 28 23:43:03 2017 No.2918566

hey guys, how do you all approach lighting and form? for example, if you have a direct light source and are trying to make it look consistent... i've heard that it's best to start with fill light for form but - it's confusing because what is fill light and in what direction?

just that whenever I try something that isn't like frontal lighting + mid-values it fucks up massively orz

thanks!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 04:41:57 2017 No.2919002 How the fuck can you make the measurements of the face? Every time I try, its way off

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 07:01:57 2017 No.2919105 Looking at drawing tablets. Any recommendations? Looking at the Huion WH1409. It's about as pricey as the ones without built-in screens get, but it's huge. The one I have right now is like 5 inches diagonally, barely even useful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 08:08:02 2017 No.2919141 What are other stabilizers out there besides Lazy Nezumi and Silky shark? Photoshop crashes with my tablet when I use Lazy Nezumi. but it works fine when I use a mouse or in Krita w/ my tablet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 08:29:16 2017 No.2919156 >>2918348 Wow, that's like the most racist book I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 11:56:34 2017 No.2919320 >>2919156 the drawings are from 19th cen so they're bound to be

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 12:58:01 2017 No.2919370 >>2919320 But racism wasn't invented until the 1920s

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 13:54:21 2017 No.2919439 Is it fine to draw from a picture when doing a still life? I don't really have the room or lighting to set up nice displays.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 16:12:29 2017 No.2919606

Electric pencil sharpeners seem to range from some $10 dollars all the way up to something ridiculous like $1000

I can't tell if the cheap ones are cheap because they're shit, or if the expensive ones are expensive because they just wanna appeal to rich office men who don't know better.

Any good recommendations for electrical pencil sharpeners? Are the cheap ones useless?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 16:24:28 2017 No.2919616 >>2919606 >$1000 dollar pencil sharpener For that price it better double as a onahole and make my dick bigger while it's at it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 16:35:44 2017 No.2919630 >>2912011 How can I kill the pretenders?

>>	Derek Wed Mar 29 16:38:21 2017 No.2919633 >>2919630 Infiltrate the pretenders by pretending to be a pretender then when they aren't looking pretend to kill them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 16:48:18 2017 No.2919645 >>2919633 Jokes on me, I was only pretending to ask.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 16:50:36 2017 No.2919648 >>2919633 >>2919645 Can you post-tender the pre-tenders?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 16:54:52 2017 No.2919653

>>2914468
If by burnt out you mean "I can't draw anymore as I am burnt out", then go outside and enjoy life for a day or two. Go and do something, experience something. Art is partially your view and experience of the world distilled into art itself.

If you don't experience life to some extent your art may come out nice, but it won't have that injection of life. So go out for a walk, or go ride your bike for a while. Get some fresh air and take your mind of off things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 16:57:59 2017 No.2919656 File: 159 KB, 1309x954, 1490684150201a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2917498 you tell me

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 18:41:29 2017 No.2919781 >>2917743 music helps me when drawing if im lacking ideas. some music stimulates certain imagery or atmosphere/feelings in my head, so it helps get the creative juices flowing. to each their own though

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 19:32:56 2017 No.2919821
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what's a good guide for formally measuring in 3-point perspective?

i want to know if there's any video lecture-type material where someone's going through the steps of setting up 3-point grids and using that compositionally.

something similar to erik olson's material on 1 and 2-point. it seems like he'll be putting out 3-point lectures eventually, but not for a while.

i read through most of handprint's guides, and while they were informative, the measurements of distance using trigonometry and all the other dense information give me a headache.

the last time i asked this some shill bot replied, so it that happens again pls ignore

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:05:59 2017 No.2919846 >>2919821 scott robinson, sempai

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:31:30 2017 No.2919865 >>2919656 Is it normal if picture looks better when mirrored?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:39:15 2017 No.2919874 >>2919865 not necessarily, but the foot closest to us is a bit longer than need be

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:47:34 2017 No.2919879 >>2919874 True, but it's harder to see it in the mirrored version. Either my judgment is more screwed than I'd like to think, or he actually drew it in reverse and posted the flipped image.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 20:48:41 2017 No.2919881

>>2919821
>formally measuring in 3-point perspective

Why do you need to "formally measure" whatever it is you are drawing? Why not just trace a CAD model? Or better yet, why draw it at all?

The point of drawing something by hand is that it is quick, not that it is accurate. You don't use pencils and pens if you want something to be accurate. We don't live in the 19th century anymore. You can just use CAD. Use the right tool for the job otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time.

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 21:04:30 2017 No.2919900
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So guys, i'm working as a colorist on a 40 page comic that is about to be published. thing is I'm also better than the ink artist so I was asked to redo some faces here and there, really easy shit since the original inking was horrendous, told him i would for 1k more which he agreed to, so i'm being paid 5.5k for about a month worth of work which is not bad.

What I wanted to know is, do artists working on the comic usually ask for a sale percentage or just take the work's worth of money ? He just asked me if I would agree to take a percentage of the sales for some more modifications.

what percentage should I ask for if I do ? and should I have asked for a percentage before agreeing to the work ?

Anonymous Wed Mar 29 21:10:49 2017 No.2919905

>>2919900

A comic book is a "like" a business. The sales for the book are "like" equity in the business. Usually the business will offer you equity, you don't ask for it, because it's an unreliable source of income, as in, what if the book doesn't sell? Get your paycheck for the work that you did. Don't ask for a percentage in sales unless you are actually one of the creators of the comic book, not just working for a creator.

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 06:51:04 2017 No.2920388

>have perfect motor control (can draw pretty much any line/curve neatly, if I'm looking at something, I can draw it)
>understand basic linear perspective
>understand basic shapes (boxes, cylinders, cones, etc)
>can make very vivid images in my head
>can tell when something is wrong in my drawing through intuition

Where do I go from here bros? I've done Keys to Drawing, Perspective Made Easy, a couple of Drawabox lessons. I'm going through Hampton's Figure Drawing book right now so that I can have a better understanding of anatomy. Is Scott Robertson going to be useful if I want to draw porn and environments?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 09:09:52 2017 No.2920479 Is there a trick to sighting? My angles always come out slightly off and my still life drawings get progressively more distorted as I draw...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 10:47:08 2017 No.2920554 how do I make friends, I have no friends after years of being a reclusive neet and the crushing loneliness keeps distracting me when I draw, to the point it makes me seriously consider suicide

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 10:49:10 2017 No.2920558 >>2920554 Having friends and a life makes you a worse artist

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 10:52:31 2017 No.2920561 >>2920554 Join a recreational dodgeball league

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 30 11:21:53 2017 No.2920618 Is it bad practice for your drawing hand to rest on the paper?

Anonymous Thu Mar 30 13:59:23 2017 No.2920762

Okay i have spent two days trying to get my fucking intous 3 to work. I know it's software and not hardware because i can use the tablet before i install the wacom drivers but as soon as i install the drivers the pen stops working. the express keys work but i can't move or click the pen and the pen icon doesn't show up in the preference menu

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 03:33:03 2017 No.2921747

I think this is the right board for this, though it may belong in /g/, I don't know. Anyway...

so how the fuck do I install gimp plugins? I download the plug-in, try to move it into the plug-ins folder (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins) and I get 4 error messages saying I'm missing various libgimp files. I haven't even tried opening gimp itself yet, this is what happens just trying to put the file there. Googling it says it's a third-party thing and some imply that gimp should've come with it (but I guess it didn't), and tell me to get it straight from the gimp website but I can't find anything on the official website about it. I also found a help thread about it with various possible solutions but for each thing that somebody says works, two people say it doesn't. According to it, it's because it's the x64 version of gimp, and somebody recommended downloading a third-party version of gimp. How the fuck did the devs fuck up this bad?

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 06:44:12 2017 No.2921873

How do you fuckologists set up your desk when using a tablet for optimal tablet + hotkey access?

Hard mode: It's a pen display so you can't just shove it where your mouse would go.
My keyboard's just wedged uncomfortably to the left of my shitty refurbished Cintiq and I pretty much can't do any ctrl+ or alt+ hotkeys that aren't in the bottom left corner.

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:09:00 2017 No.2922127

>>2921873
Use your expresskeys you idiot, that's what they're for. Everything else you can just touch to the screen as every major program's UI caters to touch display owners. A mini wireless keyboard and if your really have bad space invest in an monitor arm.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:28:22 2017 No.2922148 File: 295 KB, 500x338, 147363444624.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I kind of forgot why I draw. I mainly practise a lot and recently I couldn't pinpoint why I do it. I can't remember why I started. Anyone got anything to say about it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 12:59:22 2017 No.2922169 File: 40 KB, 564x592, e77f51e545fa22a286797546d6a456d6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this medium watercolor?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:00:51 2017 No.2922171 >>2922169 Looks like it. That or it might be gouche/a combination.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:31:13 2017 No.2922194 Is there anything like arm/shoulder exercises for drawing? Guess I'm not used to using some of these muscles, my shoulder always starts hurting after drawing for a bit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:34:13 2017 No.2922198 >>2922171 Is gouche like a complete different medium than watercolor? What's the difference?

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:43:39 2017 No.2922210

>>2922198
It's essentially watercolour that can also be used opaquely. They're pretty similar and often used together, I think the only difference is gouache has another ingredient or two in it to give it the opaqueness when not watered down. It was a commonly used medium for illustrators to use up until digital came along.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:53:31 2017 No.2922216 >>2922210 >>2922171 Thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 13:56:38 2017 No.2922219 >>2922210 Compared to painting with acrylic I have to say gouache is a dream to paint with, even though I sucked at using it. >got gouache kits in highschool, still used acrylic now and then

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:07:09 2017 No.2922226 >>2922148 You have to replay your memories countless times and draw the things your kid self would have. Do this until you realize what it is that you really enjoyed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:19:34 2017 No.2922234 What to practice first? Figure/gestures or anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 14:21:43 2017 No.2922238 >>2922234 Anatomy obviously

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 16:08:45 2017 No.2922342 I'm trying to learn perspective in a proper way, which tutorial should I follow first ? Vandruff, Olson or Meyer ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 17:31:24 2017 No.2922421 >>2917285 >I'd play the switch and unwind if I knew I had a shitty week ahead. >>2918071 I played, it was amazing. I played again, and now I'm ready to play with markers this weekend - a happy ending!

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:07:38 2017 No.2922471
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>drawing 3-4 hours everyday for the past month
>suddenly frustrated and annoyed
>try drawing whatever comes to mind
>nothing comes to mind
>want to take a break but for the past 2 years i haven't worked a bit on my art
Im losing my mind

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:22:33 2017 No.2922494 File: 268 KB, 1024x683, fb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can someone align the tub, bar, ceiling, sink, and floor to the two vanishing points in this photo? i can't figure it out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:35:09 2017 No.2922513 Loomis, Vilppu or Hampton to start figure drawing and anatomy from zero?

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:49:37 2017 No.2922538

Is there a cost effective source of large sheets of paper? Printer paper is dirt cheap, but tiny. Sketchbooks come in larger sizes, but they're sort of pricey for just scribbling on for a couple years until you git gud...

I don't really care about the quality of the paper, I just want something big and cheap.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 18:52:43 2017 No.2922542 File: 182 KB, 1024x683, 1490998953875.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2922494

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:06:37 2017 No.2922557 File: 742 KB, 1342x620, Screenshot_2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2922494 here you go my friend

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 19:49:25 2017 No.2922615 File: 28 KB, 499x322, 1362960884713.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be right handed >try to draw with my left hand >lines come out straighter, circles come out smoother, line work becomes more accurate

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 22:39:08 2017 No.2922778 How am I supposed to know which image of an oil painting is closest to how it looks like irl color-wise?

Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:42:41 2017 No.2922853

Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain seems to emphasize drawing with negative space a lot. But, you watch people draw online, and they almost all draw using basic forms and then filling in details?

I kind pretty much grasp the importance of negative space in a picture, but it kind of seems like "drawing" the negative spaces would be a terrible way of approaching anything except maybe certain still lifes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 31 23:57:25 2017 No.2922861 >>2922615 you were probably drawing with your arm for the first time instead of just moving your wrist and fingers to form lines. congrats anon

Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:03:52 2017 No.2922870

>>2922471

I would suggest doing focused practice/studies when you are feeling blocked.

Just basic things - value, blending, edge control, line work, etc.

Just pick something to practice and start drawing. When you focus on making improvements in certain areas instead of worrying whether it will come out perfect or not helps with stress in my experience

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:28:00 2017 No.2922902 What's better, keys to drawing or drawing on the right side of the brain?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 00:39:50 2017 No.2922917 >>2922853 It's a exercise designed to pull beginners out of symbol drawing, not a method. I would say it's also a fundamental technique of observation. If you're past the raw beginner face you might already have it internalized.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 01:03:52 2017 No.2922944 >>2922127 Are there really any monitor arms that fit into the shitty 13hd kickstand slots?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 14:20:38 2017 No.2923569 Is it considered bad/cheating to use a ruler and triangles and stuff when doing perspective?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 14:28:23 2017 No.2923576 Is Vilppu drawing manual, basic figure drawing, a good start?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 15:07:57 2017 No.2923610 >>2922902 KTD >>2923569 No, it's a tool made for making straight lines. You should still practice drawing straight lines from your shoulder though, but if you need to be precise there's nothing wrong with a ruler

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 19:40:00 2017 No.2923932 is monoprice alright for a beginner tablet? i'd rather not spend a ton of money right now, at least until i get better at drawing

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 20:23:11 2017 No.2923981 Am I the only person who actually enjoys autistically drawing millions of perspective lines all over the place and creating drawings where everything perfectly falls into place like legos?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 1 23:08:33 2017 No.2924120 whats a good way to start 3d artwork

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 03:41:47 2017 No.2924349 How do I cut back on vidya and web browsing all day?? I've noticed recently that I'm getting really anxious to get home and play vidya and it's really bothering me. How can I turn that desire to play games into a desire to draw?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 03:55:31 2017 No.2924359 >>2924349 Quit games forever or at least until you git gud Sacrifices have to be made

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 03:55:46 2017 No.2924360

I want to point my career into a more art oriented direction. I'm not delusional and realistically believe I have the skill to do it, plus I do enjoy practicing everyday. How do you guys deal with family telling you to separate your hobbies from "real life"?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 04:01:45 2017 No.2924367 >>2924349 try making specific times for drawing. like 4 to 5 pm or whenever you want is drawing time.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 09:53:19 2017 No.2924589

I'm having some program problems atm and i'm sure as hell i've done goofed up

I'm trying to reinstall photoshop cs6 pirated lmao and the trial thingy wont go away

Krita keeps on crashing on me the moment I open it and make a canvas.

I dont wanna keep using sai mang ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 10:46:22 2017 No.2924630 What kind of places should I post my art publicly? Not artsy enough for instagram and not red nose enough for tumblr.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 11:13:24 2017 No.2924657

>>2924349

If you can't hold yourself to a schedule, quit. You don't have to quit forever, just take it out of your life for a while, until you have a reasonable drawing habit installed that won't just get destroyed the second you pick up a controller again. Stop reading about video games on the internet and getting involved in all the 'hype' and whatnot too, because a lot of it is just getting caught up in the big new release, or whatever people are talking about.

Web browsing is probably the more difficult thing to deal with. Just keep yourself conscious of the fact that once you start, your schedule is going down the toilet, so start any work before you let yourself on 4chan or youtube. Keep yourself away from it until you've got a significant amount of work done. The trick is to work on this shit before, don't think that you'll work after you let yourself waste time on the internet because you won't have the attention span for it after that.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 11:20:56 2017 No.2924670

>>2924360

You become a professional working artist and they all do 180's and talk about how they knew you were going to make it and other bullshit

There's no real metric because your family aren't artists and they'll just want you to do whatever is financially secure. They won't let it go until you've already made it as an artist, so you're going to just have to work your ass off.

If you want though, you can post your work here and we can tell you where you're at realistically. For all I know you could be awful, incapable of improving, and your family is just genuinely concerned.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 11:25:39 2017 No.2924678 >>2924630 Tumblr has all sorts of artists, you can post your shit there and so long as you avoid particular fandoms, you'll never interact with them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 11:25:56 2017 No.2924679 How the fuck am I supposed to apply Loomis' teachings on figure drawing? He doesn't explain shit on whether im supposed use the techniques while drawing with a reference or from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 11:40:44 2017 No.2924690 >>2924679 Both And don't bother drawing from imagination until you're good at drawing from reference

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 12:10:48 2017 No.2924717

>>2924670
I do want to work my ass off, but my family doesn't even want me going into an entry level job in the art field. I guess it's work my ass off on the side until I make more money with art than my soul sucking job related to my degree. But I'd really like to cut to the chase before I waste any more time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 12:43:32 2017 No.2924752 classes start back up tomorrow, what am I in for with an acting for animators class? Is it like lifedrawing? not sure what items I need to bring..

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 13:19:17 2017 No.2924791

>>2924717

Just be patient. Keep working on art when you can, take it seriously and learn efficiently. It's something that takes years to get good at, and it's highly competitive. Don't quit your day job until you can put out work at a professional level. If you make enough, save up to go study at an atelier, or college, don't just jump out of your job and expect to find work in art.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 13:38:38 2017 No.2924816

>>2924791
Going through Aguri's one year course, I started downloading Erik Olson's videos just to notice that my English comprension isn't good enough to constantly follow him.

Is there a book that covers perspective as well as he does? Is perspective made easy good enough?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 15:47:12 2017 No.2924950 >>2924791 Sigh... thanks, I'll try to truck through it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 19:45:26 2017 No.2925251

Oh shit boys, I fucked up. I didn't realize how small my canvas was and I forgot that the default dpi in sai is 72, and this needs to be printed off. I tried running it through waifu2x and it looked like shit. I think when resized in photoshop using that nearest neighbor resample thing it probably just looks alright to me because I'm so used to working on this zoomed in 200%. That won't look good when printed, right? It'll be far too pixelated. Fuck what the fuck do I do? I don't have enough time to redraw it from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 19:48:06 2017 No.2925256 >working through Erik Olson's perspective series Holy shit this is long. Apparently there's a lot more to perspective than vanishing points...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 19:51:59 2017 No.2925259 >>2925256 I'm redoing his course taking better notes because I'm too much of a autist. I'm on the house lecture. Grab some coffee and buckle up as you'll be in for a long battle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 22:07:09 2017 No.2925473 >>2925256 >>2925259 >wasting your time learning perspective >when you can just learn matrix algebra and do a 2D projection of the scene in your mind onto the paper

Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:29:46 2017 No.2925588
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Picrelated: is there any specific name for the style of shading like on picrelated? I mean, the usual shadows but with highlights near the edges. Is there any particular tip on how it should be done?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:31:37 2017 No.2925593 File: 40 KB, 305x280, 83c21bfcf761f2d3a8efce631eedfe36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2925588 One more example

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:33:53 2017 No.2925596 File: 162 KB, 1390x782, 5862bcd7c9f28.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2925588 One more example, it's 3D but same thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 2 23:42:04 2017 No.2925600 >>2925588 >>2925596 that's called reflected light

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 00:21:37 2017 No.2925641 >>2925600 OK thanks. It's a bit hard to see where it's reflected from though when it comes from sides

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 00:38:21 2017 No.2925657 >>2925641 ? The light source is clearly towards the upper right on the first pic and upper right and behind the camera in the second pic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 00:52:42 2017 No.2925673 >>2925657 He means it's confusing as there are two different implied light sources when one of the lights is directly on the shading.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 01:05:20 2017 No.2925686
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>>2925588
>Picrelated: is there any specific name for the style of shading like on picrelated? I mean, the usual shadows but with highlights near the edges.
My face when i read this

man this is retarded. i even felt tired after reading that.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 01:08:40 2017 No.2925689
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>>2925673
>>2925657
Yes, I was talking about the reflected light.
I'm more confused how it can be so bright, but the lighted area is so small. Does this imply the reflected light source is relatively small (not as big as with the sunlight coming from above)? Sorry for dumb questions, I'm still learning.

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 14:09:57 2017 No.2926495

so maybe i'm having trouble understanding perspective. i've tried studying the basics of two-point that generally show architecture. but top-tier artists can draw mechanical objects and any boxy shapes with depth at any angle. are their certain types of grids they set up? is it covered deeper in scott robinson's book?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 14:13:54 2017 No.2926500 Would you combine 2D and 3D in the same portfolio webpage? If yes, even combined with sketches if they are well made and good for show? Anything against that? I faintly remember something, but ah well..

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 3 17:38:58 2017 No.2926733 How do I make drawing hands less fucking annoying? As soon I start drawing hands I want to fucking kill myself. Send fucking help

Anonymous Mon Apr 3 18:18:48 2017 No.2926790
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Anyone know what's a good pencil sharpener? All the ones that my house break or fuck up the tip. Anyone know the type that are at highschool and college? Those work really well.

Anonymous Tue Apr 4 00:42:54 2017 No.2927224
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>>2926790
I have this exact model and works wonders.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-Electric-Pencil-Sharpener-KP-775-AutoStop-Works-Great-/201878922576?hash=item2f00ebe550:g:le4AAOSwdGFYsTcl

It's the kind they used in grade school.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 06:24:55 2017 No.2927473 What's a good course/book for background art?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 07:01:48 2017 No.2927489 >>2926790 MODS

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:21:37 2017 No.2927952 what's your daily practice? is it important to do the same thing every day, or could i, say, alternate perspective and anatomy? >>2927473 schoolism

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:38:12 2017 No.2927973 Will I ever be good enough?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:38:42 2017 No.2927974 >>2927973 Yes, if you want it enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:40:46 2017 No.2927978 are monitor tablets better than traditional tablets, or is the distance between the glass surface and the actual pixels harmful?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:41:19 2017 No.2927979 >>2927978 No rules, just tools.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 16:58:02 2017 No.2927994 >>2927978 some have a rougher surface than others. the ipad is just a shitty phone screen, but cintiqs are fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 17:08:34 2017 No.2928007 >>2927974 Wha if it doesn't want me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 17:12:52 2017 No.2928013 >>2928007 People who want to be good were born to be good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 17:28:22 2017 No.2928041 >>2928013 That's a really nice way of looking at it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 17:31:30 2017 No.2928050 Is the huion giano all straightened out with its photoshop compatibility yet or would it be better to stick with Intuos and buy a medium sized pro model?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 19:59:36 2017 No.2928236 >>2927952 >schoolism What course(s)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 4 22:39:37 2017 No.2928379 >>2928236 idk check the course descriptions and lesson plans on the site to see what fits your needs. they have a few read framed perspective if you want to draw comics

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 00:39:58 2017 No.2928475

>>2912011
Evening lads. I was curious. I'm planning on doing Dynamic 1/2/ and analytical figure drawing on CG master academy. I'm kinda meh right now in my fundies and I always liked a class structure. Plus I love peter han so I think I will enjoy this.

Would you recommend this to me or should I go to some schoolism classes? Also if you guys have any other advice about online courses I'd be glad to take it.

Money is also a none issue BTW.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 00:41:43 2017 No.2928477 >>2928475 Go for it, schoolism is the same side of the coin. Teachings are universal, just different teachers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 00:52:24 2017 No.2928489 File: 26 KB, 320x600, 51733-1001-3ww-l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone have any experiences with french easels? They cost 100-300 dollaroos brand new on popular online stores but ebay lists cheaper 50-60 dollar versions made of beech.

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 01:05:59 2017 No.2928504

>>2928475
You mean actually paying for it? I paid for nacorda's class but life got in the way again so I just had to rip the videos for later use. Waiting for the final Q&A before they lock me out. Here is my mini review:

Is it worth it? An honest yes and no for figure drawing. When you check their facebook page you'll see them boasting about how their students submissions reflect their teachings--it's a bullshit lie honestly. Many people already come in with talent and 50/50 use what the teacher lectured but mostly sprinkle their own experience. CGMA's marketing in general is snake oil and questionable. Nacorda is a better explainer than hampton, but when it comes to the crits and Q&A don't expect anything eye opening. He'll talk about his brush settings and irrelevant shit the other students ask him and by week 4 you won't have any questions because even /ic/ can critique anatomy so a Q&A is almost pointless. But yes put money down because it's Hampton's course revamped and taught by a younger person who understands your confusion.

I also took a perspective class, the teacher on there is a big weeb and I really enjoyed his content so $700 well spent there no complaints. Very humble guy and contagious laugh and good information. He really enjoys what he does and actually tries to help.

Peter Han no longer is teaching at CGMA. And CGMA is starting to hire youtube celebs and hacks like Robert Cheng. They're quickly going down the toilet in skilled teachers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 02:25:59 2017 No.2928604 >>2920554 Do you have a steam anon? I feel the same way

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 03:06:46 2017 No.2928653 >>2920554 The key is to talk to people, even if you feel like you're annoying them.

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 13:00:48 2017 No.2929037

I normally just draw lewd anime garbage but recently a youtuber reached out to me and commissioned a youtube icon / banner and I honestly don't really know how to do something like that.
Does anyone have advice about making icons / avatars for something like this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 14:09:29 2017 No.2929107 File: 515 KB, 2480x3508, what_about_now.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Need learning more the base for drawing body's Any tutorial OR tips, where I could start?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 15:29:21 2017 No.2929188 >>2929037 This isn't >>>/gd/ nigga

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 15:34:22 2017 No.2929194 >>2929107 Heres a tip: stop drawing gay gems.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 15:34:56 2017 No.2929195 >>2929107 I got some perfect advice for you buddy, literally on just that It's in the sticky

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 15:50:36 2017 No.2929209 >>2928504 >>2928477 Thanks guys. Why is pete no longer at cgma? He's under dynamic 2. Ehh. I'll take patrick or dzu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 16:43:18 2017 No.2929296 Question from fun with a pencil: how many heads of loomis should I make per day? By the way, I started with the right book? Should I have tried another book of him instead? (Is it quite simple and fun) or have no order where to start his books?

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:08:39 2017 No.2929323
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> S-sono... Anon-kun-tachi... I-if you have a b-beautiful 2d w-waifu...
*blush*
> w-would you d-d-depict her... e-engaging i-in a... in a... h-happy s... s... l-l-lo-lo-love-making s-s-s-session w-with yourself...
*breathes in, then blurts out loudly*
> T-TO EXPRESS HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HER?!
*covers face in hands with a smoke coming out of ears, then says quietly*
> I-it is n-not like I p-plan to draw a-anything like t-that, d-don't get the wrong idea, senpai-tachi...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:12:25 2017 No.2929326 >>2929188 He wants a drawing not a graphic design, my man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:13:25 2017 No.2929327 >>2929323 what is wrong with you, holy fuck weebs are the most retarded human beings on the planet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:15:24 2017 No.2929331 >>2929327 I think it's ironic. I hope it is.

>>	Derek Wed Apr 5 17:21:15 2017 No.2929337 File: 35 KB, 600x315, fyfy111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2929323 Your my waifu come koko ni and make aishiteru to atashi. >>2929331 you film >>2929327 you hold the lighting

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 17:27:20 2017 No.2929349

>>2929331
It was meant as a tongue-in-cheek question about erotic self-inserts in general.

>>2929337
You filthy baka gaijin shoujo, you can't make "ai shiteru" as you can't say "make 'I'm loving you now'" if there's no additional words. Anata no Nihongo wo manabe.

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 19:59:25 2017 No.2929557
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So, "avoid symbol drawing" means basically "Draw what you see, not what you think" and to overcome it I have to (among other things) "reduce and dissemble" the drawing object to its basic shapes and forms, right?

I really confused about this shit honestly.

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 22:14:45 2017 No.2929709

>>2929557
Imagine a face. Now imagine this face is caught partially in shadow. creating a bunch of dark shapes all over the head.

If you just draw what you see, you won't be drawing a """head"""", you'll be drawing all the 2d shapes you see in front of you. you'd try and match the 2d shapes as best as you can.

On the issue of drawing 3d shapes, this mostly used when you want to study a subject's form in space or capture depth in your drawings (whether from life or reference.)

Does this help in any way?

Anonymous Wed Apr 5 23:08:16 2017 No.2929751

>>2929709
Yeah, that clarifies a bit better, especially this part

>If you just draw what you see, you won't be drawing a """head"""", you'll be drawing all the 2d shapes you see in front of you. you'd try and match the 2d shapes as best as you can.

Thank you, anon!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 23:31:03 2017 No.2929782 File: 116 KB, 564x772, 3b5da5b5ec802f1047771fe7e447bf20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have any good resources dealing with open-mouthed expressions (in particular, talking)?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 5 23:57:57 2017 No.2929809 >>2929782 Watch movie or tv show. Pause during dialog. Draw. Otherwise do the same for animated films to see it simplified and stylized.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 00:08:10 2017 No.2929819 >>2929809 I feel dumb that I didn't think of this, thanks much anon.

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 00:16:15 2017 No.2929822
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sorry if this has been asked already but im thinking of trying out alcohol markes but im not exactly shitting money so I can't afford to get the good stuff.

is there an /ic/ approved kind thats cheap but still good for learning? (as in like, its not going to crap out on me if my dog sits on it or something similarly assinine happens)

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 08:29:28 2017 No.2930151

How long does it take for you guys to create a painting from start to finish?
I started my first attempt at painting yesterday (have only been drawing before) and as much as I love the whole process, it takes so fucking long. I guess I will take 3-4 days for the painting to finish.

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 08:37:57 2017 No.2930161

>>2930151
it depends how much detail you put into it and how much experience you have in the processs.

since you have no experince its gonna take ages so really the only way to shorten down the time is to either do it more so you can refine the process or put in less detail

Anonymous Thu Apr 6 08:47:56 2017 No.2930165
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>>2930161
Well I am aiming for a semi photorealistic style.
Gues I just have to keep practising.

I am currently repainting this piece.

It started out as a drawing practise but I liked the drawing so much that I wanted to replicate this style and just started painting.

Is it reasonable to put 3-4 days in a piece like that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 08:49:13 2017 No.2930167 >>2930165 also while I am at it: how the hell is it possible to draw the hair like that? it looks like they just took a specific brush and the brush did most of the work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 08:51:24 2017 No.2930170 File: 188 KB, 957x344, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should i do it? Is the chink version. Does anyone here bought one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 09:00:23 2017 No.2930177 >>2930167 >it looks like they just took a specific brush and the brush did most of the work. It doesn't look like that at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 09:03:47 2017 No.2930180 >>2930177 so how do you do it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 10:11:42 2017 No.2930245 File: 48 KB, 275x200, 1488145189446.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wanna set up a paypal account. I don't really know how this works when it comes to artist who make their accounts. Do you make it in your real name or the pseudonym?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 10:38:34 2017 No.2930269 >>2930245 >not just setting up patreon

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 10:46:01 2017 No.2930274 >>2930170 read people complaining that they can break a bit too easily

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 10:46:28 2017 No.2930278 >>2930170 There is a newer version, don't. You also might as well save for the superman figurine Watts uses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 10:47:42 2017 No.2930280 >>2930278 woops spiderman*

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 10:49:34 2017 No.2930285 File: 65 KB, 468x369, Måla.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2922538 If you got an IKEA near you, they have rolls of paper for cheap, called Måla.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 11:43:07 2017 No.2930325 >>2930269 I would, but I'm not even that popular to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 16:12:15 2017 No.2930515 My poses look stiff. What should I do? What book should I read? Can you recommend any good tutorials about this subject?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 16:27:26 2017 No.2930526 File: 411 KB, 1214x1600, tumblr_mdhrdtz7Sk1re2eono2_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2930515 Read Figure Drawing by Hampton

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 16:31:00 2017 No.2930534 >>2930515 Glen Vilppu, Michael Hampton.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 16:40:02 2017 No.2930544 >>2930534 >>2930526 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 16:45:20 2017 No.2930553 >>2922542 are you fucking shitting me

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 6 18:13:33 2017 No.2930648 >>2930553 to be fair, your question was kinda stupid

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 01:36:16 2017 No.2930964 >>2930245 pls help

Anonymous Fri Apr 7 04:20:20 2017 No.2931108
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There's a thing, clip studio doesn't align ellipses properly in perspective, the long axis isn't perpendicular, neither in 2pp nor in 3pp. And proper ellipses doesn't fit in squares that the program draws. Am I doing something wrong?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 04:46:08 2017 No.2931127 >>2930245 People on /ic/ told me if you use a fake name you can get in trouble. But you can do commissions without revealing all your information if you use a business account, see this thread >>2924594

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 04:47:47 2017 No.2931129 Will doing Baruqe plates help me with proportions? I remember someone recommending them a while ago but I can't recall what was the most beneficial thing they got from it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 04:50:41 2017 No.2931133 File: 12 KB, 221x300, bargue-plate-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2931129 Whoops, meant this, Bargue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 06:45:12 2017 No.2931214 >>2923981 Nope, I enjoy that as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 06:48:49 2017 No.2931218 what does it mean if my left eye has visual snow but my right eye doesn't?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 07:00:01 2017 No.2931221 >>2931218 probably build of of pressure in the aqueous humor, pushes on the retina. could also be a migraine, go to the doctor, is not likely that you're going blind, don't worry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 10:49:46 2017 No.2931368 File: 33 KB, 500x500, 1488226089797.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What differentiates a good sketch from a bad one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 10:54:37 2017 No.2931371 >>2931368 Good in what sense?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 10:56:50 2017 No.2931375 >>2931368 bad sketches are the ones where they artist spent hours on it making it look nice, and posted it on line calling it a doodle :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 12:53:07 2017 No.2931480 >>2931371 Having potential to develop into a nice piece of artwork.

Anonymous Fri Apr 7 13:21:00 2017 No.2931498
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Hey folks, so I am pretty beginner tier and this random person from a thread that I frequent is asking me to do a portrait of their dog (see green text below) I tried asking how big they wanted it and if they would be ok with watercolor (my main stick these days) but can't get an answer. I have never really worked commission before.

I could in theory do a 12X18 with the materials I have right now but I don't want to think about shipping it. If it is that big.

What size do you think I should do? What should I charge them?

>Hey, /###/ drawfag, how much would you charge for a portrait of my doggy? Yes, I want a big portrait of my doggo to hang on in my living room because he's qt af. Include shipping and all that shit. I'm very interested in your services and such.

>Draw anon, just give me an estimate. I'm at work and I don't have a good pic of my tail wagging buddy on my phone.
>He's a brown/black German Shepard mix. Also, I know nearly nothing about art, so all those fancy words you are using are not computing in my brain. I just want a nice portrait of him.

They never actually gave me the picture of the dog but shepards are pretty much all alike.I figure I could pull off something like pic related.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 13:26:40 2017 No.2931505 >>2931498 >can't get an answer What does that mean?

Anonymous Fri Apr 7 13:56:29 2017 No.2931538

>>2931505
I don't know if they are cool with watercolor as the medium. She basically just wants a "painting of her dog" and doesn't want to have to think about it.

I said screw it and gave her a low end price of 150$ (not inc shipping/framing if desired.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 7 16:27:19 2017 No.2931655 I'm looking for a few books for statue/sculpture references, I would just look at my computer screen but I want to avoid eye strain. Anyone have any recs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 13:12:12 2017 No.2932738 >>2912011 Where did you this art

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 13:40:02 2017 No.2932753 >>2931538 You need to charge at least $300.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 22:41:44 2017 No.2933303 >>2929349 あなたの名前わ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 8 22:56:14 2017 No.2933326 File: 42 KB, 640x480, beeswax.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone has books or tutorials or exercises on carving methods? Found mostly draw and painting stuff. In the photo, beeswax I modelled to try a head carving.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 08:06:48 2017 No.2933750 File: 121 KB, 800x650, 8073bd572f7db2eec4a14b1f14a594c6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone know good video capture software for artists? Free or not. I'm currently using ezvid, but it can only record 45min at a time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 09:13:13 2017 No.2933783 File: 415 KB, 654x702, 1478866458815.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2933303 >わ

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 09:22:31 2017 No.2933789

I really want to be consistent in my output but it seems I tend to have artistic highs for several months, where I spend most of my spare time drawing and then lows, where I can't even get myself to draw an hour a day.

I just don't understand. When I'm in flow, I can easily put in 40 hours a week (while also jobbing) but I always have these phases where I can get nothing done. And it's these times I begin to question myself: Am I cut for it? What's the point?

Anyone here has had the same experience? Any tips?

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 10:22:33 2017 No.2933829
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Should I join the drawing class at uni? The book we'll be using is drawing on the right side of the brain so I'm assuming the class would teach some serious stuff. On the other hand, it could do it at home and the class happens to be late the last class of the day and I live far as fuck from my uni.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 11:56:26 2017 No.2933899 >>2933829 i would give it a shot, but if you can buy a copy of the book and do some independent study instead you definitely should.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:15:45 2017 No.2933985 >>2929323 I hope so. I'm about to kill myself after acknowledging that I'm going to be alone for 20 years more, or turn all that bad energy on... that. Wish me luck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:25:08 2017 No.2934001 >>2933303 自分の事を気にかけたまえ、ボケ。 >>2933985 Draw your waifu, brother. If you truly love her and surrender yourself to your belief, you will likely make it through.

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:29:46 2017 No.2934008

There isn't a difference between starting with pencil and paper, or starting with a tablet, is there? Neither way has an advantage over the other? I bought a small 15 dollar tablet to try it out and I liked it a lot more than pencil and paper even though I'm really bad at art. Should I just invest in a tablet that isn't extremely small assuming I have the money?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:32:56 2017 No.2934013 When starting from absolute beginner-tier, how long did it take for you guys to start making art that was at least tolerable to your senses? I know the answer can vary wildly from person to person, but I am just curious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:38:39 2017 No.2934015 What kind of paints would you recommend for a beginner to painting? Acrylics, oils, pastels...?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:43:59 2017 No.2934021 >>2934008 No. No. Sure. >>2934013 A few weeks. >>2934015 Any painting is good painting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:47:00 2017 No.2934025 How big is too big for a tablet? Considering the Huion Giano WH1409, which seems to be the biggest one around (and fairly cheap).

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 13:47:12 2017 No.2934026 >>2934021 >>2934015 But what kind of paints will be the easiest to learn on? For example I've heard that watercolor paints aren't easy for beginners but maybe that is wrong idk.

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 14:06:32 2017 No.2934048

>>2934013
Three-full-months-behind here... The only textbook I ever bothered to study is Norling's Perspective Made Easy. I saw beauty in my very first serious picture. It was soon exposed that my sense of beauty is quite a bit away from everyone else's and my knowledge of literally all fundamentals is gravely lacking. Even so, the fourth or fifth picture I made still looks fine to me and the others, despite being very beginner-tier.
By now I'm usually able to produce a picture that looks good to me, but my female faces still look meh to others and my knowledge of most fundamentals still requires a lot of improvement. Even so, self-study has proven effective for me, as it always had. The negative effect is that I can't enjoy some art (including drawn porn) I enjoyed before, since now I am much more prone to noticing bad anatomy and perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 17:52:25 2017 No.2934307 I just want to get good enough to draw my own pictures and porn without relying on other artists.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 18:19:21 2017 No.2934359 File: 150 KB, 1469x1104, fatguy confused.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can someone explain how anime eyelashes work, especially in 3d? are they a combination of few lines and chunks of lashes? or am I just overthinking it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 19:09:38 2017 No.2934408 What brush or feature I use for clean lineart in Clip Studio Paint?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 19:10:35 2017 No.2934409 >>2934359 you are overthinking it

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 19:35:36 2017 No.2934441

Is it a good idea to start learning to draw using a tablet? I literally can't draw nearly at all but I want to pick it up. I have a tablet since I got it cheap back when I used to play osu (it's a small wacom) tablet. I don't have any good quality pencils? Anywhere I should start?

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 19:53:29 2017 No.2934460

>>2934441
A regular 2B pencil can do quite a lot and might be easier for you than starting with a tablet. But since you have the tablet anyway, you might as well try it. It might be more fun for you than a pencil. I think having fun when you start out is more important than getting good right away. If drawing = fun, you'll do it more often.

You could try an art class. It doesn't even have to be "good." It'd just help you get in the habit of drawing, because it can be difficult to self-motivate.

Anonymous Sun Apr 9 20:35:05 2017 No.2934535 [DELETED]

Is there anyone I can talk to? This isn't entirely art-related, but /ic/ is the only place I could think of to ask this. The short of it is that I failed at a career in art, and now I can no longer draw due to bad health. I feel like I have no purpose or joy in life anymore. I feel like there's nothing that can help me, but I think another artist would understand better than anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 20:38:29 2017 No.2934539 >>2934535 The /las/ discord is a good place to go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 20:40:00 2017 No.2934541 >>2934539 How would I even bring up such a topic there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 20:41:31 2017 No.2934544 >>2934541 They're open to anything. Just drop it in. They'll listen and reply back quickly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 9 20:44:04 2017 No.2934547 >>2934544 Thank you

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 00:59:32 2017 No.2934848

>>2934460
Was going to go to hobby lobby today. I checked the Pencil Faq but it's still a lot to take in at once. I really just need a basic all around good pencil, that I'll be using the most. More Importantly I'm not sure what to pick between lead darkness and hardness. Is there a specific one brand? Should I get a 2B and an 8B?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 10 15:32:33 2017 No.2935623 File: 81 KB, 263x750, How-To-Draw-A-Detailed-Panda-According-To-Every-Drawing-Tutorial.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where on 4chan can I get advice about doing animations and related to this things? I'm totally beginner and need some tips

Anonymous Mon Apr 10 15:46:42 2017 No.2935632

>>2935623
Well, I won't wait and just tell what my problem is. I want to learn how can I draw an animation frame by frame (to better understand how it works) about rotating f.e a cube. I don't know how dimensions and shape would change after moving it in any direction. I've been reading about perspective but for me it seems like this is more useful for static images (but as always, I can be wrong - I'm beginner). Any advices, links to books, youtube's tutorials etc?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 03:18:06 2017 No.2936337 >>2930170 Deltoids dislocate if there's too much bending and swivling. Also, the edge of the legs can be caught by the pelvis and scrape it up, making the leg all fucked on the inner thigh. t. I own two chans

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 03:21:37 2017 No.2936340 >>2931368 That you produce a product that merely looks like it's half finished, but not quite, where time and focus on study is taken into account.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 06:22:41 2017 No.2936451 >>2933750 Bump.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 11 11:17:37 2017 No.2936664 >>2934848 Nigga just buy a $12 tombow sampler box and use whatever you like the most https://www.amazon.com/Tombow-Drawing-Assorted-Degrees-Graphite/dp/B00135DJQ8

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