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[Anonymous No.2886570]

Post your current drawing here and provide helpful criticism and advice to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, DOWNSIZED TO AROUND 1000 PIXELS WIDE, ROTATED TO THE CORRECT ORIENTATION, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost it.
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[Anonymous No.2886571]

Previous draw thread
>> 2878659
>>2878659

[Anonymous No.2886601]

>>2886570

[Anonymous No.2886602]

>>2886601
Why is the mood so light but people are dying

[Anonymous No.2886608]

>>2886602
Unintentional. I want it at sunrise, I guess the colours don't work out.

[Anonymous No.2886630]

first layer, only spent like an hour and a half on it but I think it's quite interesting as it is, don't wanna ruin it

[Anonymous No.2886667]

>>2886602
Not him but I find it kind of interesting. It feels different from the usual war images which are all dark and gritty.

[Anonymous No.2886816]

R8 my pic /ic/

[Anonymous No.2886818]

>>2886816
Left side is nice.

Right side is a battle for what's most important (when it should be the person).

Fix: Ditch the razor sharp edges on everything on the right side except for the person.

[Anonymous No.2886832]

>>2886630
>don't wanna ruin it
that's where you fucked up. why not ruin it?

[Anonymous No.2886916]

aight /ic rip me a new one. Im generaly happy with it, i know the hands suck - i lost this battle. Dont hold back! 100X70 life drawing from a model. Also, sorry for the photo quality

[Anonymous No.2886937]

>>2886570
any feedback?
not sure if i should keep the warm secondary lightning or not

[Anonymous No.2886959]

[Anonymous No.2886963]

it is pretty bad compared to what everyone else can do but this is honestly the best that i've ever drawn armor. now i just need to figure out how to progress, because i know it isn't perfect, but my eye isn't trained enough to see how to make it better. would someone mind giving me some pointers or maybe a redline?

[Anonymous No.2886966]

>>2886937
Sweet drawing, but the painting is not doing it for me. To be honest it's really muddy, both in values and in colour (that secondary greenish light is a bad call in my opinion as it makes no sense and doesn't fit in colour-wise).

I think too that you are not painting it as though it is underwater. You lose out on a lot detail underwater and I think especially in the shadows you can play this up. I did a quick paintover trying to get a clearer value/colour read on the image and make it feel more like an underwater scene. Hope it helps!

[Anonymous No.2886968]

Character practice

[Anonymous No.2886969]

>>2886959
Nice style, though I think the heads turned to the side a little too far, looks awkward

[Anonymous No.2886974]

>>2886968
Was this digital? How'd you get the sketchy lines?

[Anonymous No.2886982]

>>2886974
yeah, mixer brush on chalky, go heavy dry load

[Anonymous No.2886991]

I just sketched this before seeing this thread, I've been kinda stuck lately. I burn out real fast when drawing and idk the lines are splotchy and what not. I mostly just doodle in my sketchbook

[Anonymous No.2887017]

Oil painting.

[Anonymous No.2887018]

gonna smooth some of the transitions/edges tomorrow, but this is what i had the energy for so far today. i'd like to block in the rest of it but it's pretty intensive.

[Anonymous No.2887054]

>>2887018
That's fucking gorgeous, dude.

[Anonymous No.2887067]

5min gestures

[Anonymous No.2887073]

>>2887067
How long you been doing gestures? A year now?

[Anonymous No.2887100]

>>2887073
something like that yeah

[Anonymous No.2887123]

[Anonymous No.2887127]

[Anonymous No.2887130]

[Anonymous No.2887138]

was aiming for realism, but still looks cartoony, didnt really turn out how i imagined in my head,

[Anonymous No.2887140]

>>2887138
That river... What the hell happened to all the green?

[Anonymous No.2887152]

>>2887140
i tried to make it work, but couldnt : (, i suck at foilage

[Anonymous No.2887188]

>>2886966
>>2886937

I think that anon should aim for a synthesis of both, your correction looks more solid overall but it lost the deep sea mood and some of the effects that made it interesting

[Anonymous No.2887252]

[Anonymous No.2887256]

>>2886966

[Anonymous No.2887268]

>>2886570
Thoughts on my latest drawing?

[Anonymous No.2887284]

any thoughts? i used a pen.

[Anonymous No.2887287]

>>2887284
looks constipated

[Anonymous No.2887289]

>>2887054
i think im done now. might add a little more chroma in areas for effect, but i like how it looks right now.

[Anonymous No.2887308]

>>2886916
Well done! The hands are fine. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.2887313]

>>2887289
It looked more interesting before imo

[Anonymous No.2887319]

>>2887313
yeah... hindsight is 20/20. it looks more finished now, looked more interesting before. hard to reach the former without losing the latter.

[Anonymous No.2887333]

>>2886816
why is there highlight on the guy if he's standing on the shadow?

[Anonymous No.2887382]

>>2886630
there's not really anything to ruin, it looks like the first layer of a painting- not anything finished.

[Anonymous No.2887529]

Pls help with Ike's face. I know that I have to reposition his mouth but his eyes and nose are bothering me at this point.

[Anonymous No.2887531]

>>2887138
thats cool. I feel it would look better without a castle, just with a higher mountain
>>2887256
i like the shark dude
>>2887333
id guess so he stands out more. you can lie if its justified, it doesnt bother me that much here
>>2887017
dont know much about painting, but the words "licked to death" come to mind.
Also i cant figure out that amber growing out of its chest

>>2887308
hey, thanks mate!

[Anonymous No.2887589]

>>2886991
I see this being pretty dope if you keep working on it. It's like a mix of graffiti art almost.

[Anonymous No.2887596]

>>2887529
dude its freaking anime. its all symbol drawing. Just move the 4 parts around till it.. satisfies.. you.

[Anonymous No.2887597]

>>2887529
/beg/

[Anonymous No.2887599]

help me decide! Should planets be in color or black and white?

[Anonymous No.2887601]

>>2887599
woops, wrong wip
a step ahead

[Anonymous No.2887656]

>>2887382
A lot artists leave their paintings "half finished", it's kind of a nice aesthetic to leave bits of canvas here and there. Fechin did it a lot.

[Anonymous No.2887657]

wip

[Anonymous No.2887663]

>>2886818
Thanks!

>>2887333
To make him stand out more. here could be light like this on him irl from the sky dome, of course it would not be that strong, I made it way exaggerated for my purpose, but I don't think I pushed it into ridiculous level, did I?

[Anonymous No.2887669]

>>2887656
ofc, but thats a conscious decision of some1 who knows what hes doin.

[Anonymous No.2887686]

>>2886602
you can die in a light mood too (and I don't meant your mood, but of the environment)

[Anonymous No.2887690]

>>2887382
>>2887669
I'm kind of agreeing with you, I mean, I am going to work on it again when it's dry, but the plant on the left is really effective (looks better irl I think), don't wanna meddle too much with it.

[Anonymous No.2887691]

>>2886602
heheh cause its a known fact that noone dies on a beautiful day

[Anonymous No.2887696]

>>2887690
effective against what? heh
mate, first of all those white spots dont work well. Make an underpainting. As some1 mentioned b4, you should use what youve got there as one.
Second, you cannot be afraid of screwing up. Go at it, be bold. its a fucking paint, (oils?) meaning you get almost infinite tries at it. Fuck it up, learn something, move on. It realy isnt that nice in the first place- just being honest

[Anonymous No.2887702]

>>2887127
i kinda like the scribbles. symbols tho. and eyes are crooked as hell also not looking in the same direction

[Anonymous No.2887714]

>>2887696
Effective as a representation of a plant, the rest needs work but not too much, I find a lot of artists ruin paintings by labouring at a piece until it lost all the character it had. Those fresh and confident brushstrokes can easily be replaced with timid and self conscious ones.

You can (at least I can) also lose the overall conception of the whole when going back to the same painting again and again, it's a little like repeating the same word until it means nothing. I'm just talking generally, not specifically that painting, which as a I said, still needs some work.

[Anonymous No.2887718]

>>2887714
well generally, you are right.
I stand by what i said earlier tho, it looks like an underpainting. And the white border around it is noob- paint over the white spots, and work from there. this unidentified plant can use more studying. Also are you sure about the background? it kinda blends with whats on the foreground. And the red who-knows-what in the corner is a bad decision, draws the eye.

[Anonymous No.2887822]

>>2887657
color.

[Anonymous No.2887951]

>>2886570

[Anonymous No.2887953]

>>2887951
Such nice vibrant colors

[Anonymous No.2888023]

[Anonymous No.2888025]

[Anonymous No.2888049]

[Anonymous No.2888052]

newest drawing

[Anonymous No.2888064]

>>2887951
>>2888023
>>2888025
Good stuff.

[Anonymous No.2888094]

>>2888052
Made me puke in my mouth. If that was the goal, good job

[Anonymous No.2888211]

latest thing I finished.

[Anonymous No.2888214]

>>2887289
Well. You fucked that up.

[Anonymous No.2888222]

>>2887822
cool

[Anonymous No.2888243]

>>2886570

[Anonymous No.2888251]

>>2887822
his arm is wrong.. or the shoulder is too short. arm looks like a log, and flat too. On the side note; is there a meaning to this? putting all the symbols, roses and floating fetuses? looks kinda random
>>2888211
Very.. mechanical. do you make lines that straight by hand? also prespective is off in the few places

[Anonymous No.2888255]

>>2888251
nope, I used a ruler for the staight lines.

[Anonymous No.2888258]

>>2887951
oooooh i like, im gonna save this

[Anonymous No.2888265]

>>2888255
well then, depends on what you are going for. For me, best parts of the drawing are palms and the mountains in the bg, they are actually quite nice (although kinda bland) the rest is kinda boring and lifeless to me - cause of the perfectly straight lines. Perspective looks ok in the foreground, but in the bg its all screwed up
Id make the same drawing by hand only and see if it looks better. Unless its suppoused to be architectonic.

[Anonymous No.2888310]

>>2888255
see what i mean? thats interesting

[Anonymous No.2888331]

>>2888211
You're only twenty?

[Anonymous No.2888337]

Critiques would be helpful

[Anonymous No.2888338]

>>2888337
Composition feels cramped at the top.

[Anonymous No.2888349]

1997>>2888331
nah, it was a present for someone born in 1997

[Anonymous No.2888368]

>>2887130
love it

[Anonymous No.2888369]

=0w0=

[Anonymous No.2888373]

>>2888369
woops uploaded the wrong one, i really meant to resize this.

sorry y'all

[Anonymous No.2888436]

>>2888337
Midget head
>>2888369
thats nice, insta? (the eyes are crooked tho in relation to the rest of the face

[Anonymous No.2888471]

Does /ic/ approve of my work?

[Anonymous No.2888474]

>>2888471

[Anonymous No.2888482]

>>2888471
>>2888474
blog?

[Anonymous No.2888489]

>>2887268

Do you enjoy making fun of children?

Do you know what would be better than taking a random shitty image from deviantart and posting them here, expecting us to laugh? Working on your own art.

[Anonymous No.2888526]

>>2887531
i think your right,....might just get rid of the castle
thx for the crit

[Anonymous No.2888538]

Hello, kinda new to the board. I wanted to ask you guy's opinions on this drawing I've been working.
I also wanted some ideas on what to put on the backgrounds, mainly because I've already worked in all that I wanted, which is a warrior fighting an orc.
Any idea is appreciated. Thank you for your time and consideration.

[Anonymous No.2888621]

>>2888538
>>2888538
The line is nice, but the drawing doesnt read very well. where are the legs? also wonky anatomy
and working out the bg will be harder now, when you put your characters in. always go other way around. Something generic will do. Cave? Castle? who is attacking who? you gonna color this?
>>2888526
np mate. it looks digital, so you are in comfortable position where you can paint it over and ctrl+z out of it if you dont like it right

[Anonymous No.2888640]

Really trying to push myself to get a card illustration feeling. still work in progress, anything I should be aware of before I continue tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.2888664]

>>2888640
Honestly it is missing the impact of the type of image you are going for. The shapes are all very generic rounded, the colours are muddy, the contrast is low. I think you need to try to bring in more interest--see where you can push contrasts or shapes to be more interesting. Use references too, maybe you will find some interesting way the fabric will fall that you couldn't have invented, or a positioning of the hands that is a bit better. It's very symmetrical so automatically is somewhat static, but it can lend itself to some interest graphic things if you want.

The bottom half of the image is basically dead space too. See if you can't come up with a way to make it more interesting. Maybe add in a faint underlighting, or some designs on the robe, or some cool swirling mists (they can help break up the symmetry too), or something else of your own.

The story here also can be made clearer. Who is he? Is he evil? Good? Wise? What is he holding? Is it a gift for us? Is he using it to charge up and cast some spell? Using it to meditate?

[Anonymous No.2888701]

>>2887601
B/W

[Anonymous No.2888712]

>>2888621
Sorry the drawing is kinda bad, I took a picture of it. And they don't have legs because I didn't really finish the drawing. I was waiting for something to come up and maybe that something would cover the legs, so I didn't really drew them. They are both attacking each other: notice the orc's hand flying away and the axe lodged inside the warrior. And no, I'm not coloring it because I am very shit at coloring.

[Anonymous No.2888761]

>>2888640
this is awesome.

that was my first thought

>could be a yugi ho card or something. nice style

[Anonymous No.2888763]

>>2888640
can i use it for my game?

[Anonymous No.2888770]

idk why i stayed away form it. but using the air brush is not that bad. since im never gonna get gud might as well lower the bar and have fun

[Anonymous No.2888773]

[Anonymous No.2888784]

>>2888052
use the beginner thread instead

[Anonymous No.2888795]

forearms are hard

[Anonymous No.2888861]

>>2888795
I think your overlapping strokes are holding this back. Try doing a bit of blending. I did this paintover in probably around 3 minutes with a smudge brush and a soft brush so it really doesn't have to take much extra time. It will really help the forms read if you have some gradations in there and try to avoid the muddy values from overlapping strokes.

[Anonymous No.2888870]

>>2888861
definitely does look significantly better, but i really don't want to use soft or blender brushes, i'm trying to discipline myself and have a painterly style. I didn't spend as much time blending as I should have, as I was just trying to recognize the muscles and their protrusions. Thanks for the paint over, makes me realize how much blending actually makes a piece lmao

[Anonymous No.2888899]

[Anonymous No.2888946]

>>2888861
if you're thinking overlaping strokes are bad or something then you're wrong. he just doesnt know how to use them.

[Anonymous No.2888959]

>>2888946
Where can I study it??

[Anonymous No.2888961]

>>2888946
I never condemned overlapping strokes entirely, I just said the way he is using them is holding back that image and suggested a solution.

[Anonymous No.2888983]

>>2888961
you missed the part where i said IF, so im not saying you were. I dont want noobies to be victims to believe that they should do things specifically or have a specific workflow. they need freedom in order to learn.
>>2888959
look at other artists stuff. look at their brush strokes and study them.

[Anonymous No.2888985]

>>2888946
sauce on that piece?

[Anonymous No.2888988]

>>2888983
>>2888959
you can study wei fengs shit, because hes been practically drawing for 11 years and he still draws with overlapping strokes. He knows his shit so hes a good start. others that do that the same are ruan jia and alphonse. I cant remember the rest off the top of my head but yah.

[Anonymous No.2888996]

worried about doing more to this... should i just leave it as it is?

[Anonymous No.2889011]

>>2888996
This is so hard to read

[Anonymous No.2889018]

>>2887714
>don't want timid, self-conscious strokes

>>abandon painting without rendering because is timid and self-conscious

No anon. No.

[Anonymous No.2889030]

>>2889011
what would you like to see me define? what works what doesn't. and don't just say "nothing and everything"

[Anonymous No.2889046]

I've been practicing using old master drawings and i got carried away with the thing in the corner. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2889050]

>>2888996
Is it meant to be so contrasting that it's hard to look at? The orange completely contrasts with the green and other cool colors that it's hard to look at either of them. The orange is too strong to look at, so you look away, but then it drags you back because it's so bright.

[Anonymous No.2889056]

First attempt on digital, wondering what I can add/fix/change

[Anonymous No.2889120]

>>2886601
I like it. The colorful depiction of war reminds me of Battlefield Heroes.

[Anonymous No.2889400]

>>2888664
Thanks for in depth feedback. I've cranked the staturation up a bit and it did work wonders!

Going to see what I can do about the fabric as well.

[Anonymous No.2889425]

>>2888946
Ohhh sauce please

[Anonymous No.2889428]

>>2888985
>>2889425
artist is white datura

[Anonymous No.2890056]

Still far from finished, feels like i'm lacking something tho, any thoughst?

[Anonymous No.2890099]

see anything that's really off?

[Anonymous No.2890100]

>>2890056
I feel the composition doesn't entirely work. The focal point is presumably the lighthouse/space shuttle, but they are crammed into the corner and the more interesting parts are the clouds and sky. It's also super flat as an image.

I would try changing it so that the image isn't focused on all the dead space of the sky and clouds, but rather that empty space supports the lighthouse and shuttle.

I tried a few things, maybe not all that successful but it might help in some small way. I tried moving the lighthouse out of the very corner, and I put a cloud in front of it too to help get more layering in the image and give it some more depth. I threw a darker value over the lighthouse and shuttle and turned on the light, both these things create some contrast and make the focal point stronger. I still felt the sky wasn't working so just threw in a photo of some rings from Saturn but to be honest it's probably not the best call. A more subtle thing like a shooting star would be nice maybe, or a faint nebula.

[Anonymous No.2890101]

>>2890099
Yes, try studying a walk cycle and see how humans walk. The back leg is not sitting in space properly, the shoulders would turn a bit, the arms are in the wrong spots for walking etc. Unless he is meant to be doing something else, in which case you need to make it more clear. The hand poses are just confusing things really.

I also think you should be careful with the lighting, like the colours are weird and the highlight on his head is not anything like how light behaves on forms. Might be good to get some ref on anatomy of the chest and torso.

Who is he supposed to be? Might be good to think through his character more and work on his design. Something as simple as some well researched tattoos might help add interest to this piece.

[Anonymous No.2890112]

>>2890099
>>2890101

thanks, he'll end up mostly covered up and holding something, but i'll work on that

[Anonymous No.2890149]

>>2888640
Update

[Anonymous No.2890150]

>>2889428
Reminds me of that one impressionist painter.

[Anonymous No.2890156]

>>2890150
I presume you mean that painting by Monet of the girl in white with an umbrella on the hill? Other than subject matter they have little in common. Or are you talking about Frank Benson? There's more in common there in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.2890180]

>>2886570
tell me what im doing wrong

[Anonymous No.2890181]

>>2890180
Building a castle on what seems to be a cliff.

[Anonymous No.2890214]

Trying to get back into drawing, i know the perspective of the arms are fucked up, but go ahead and rip me a new one on anything else that's wrong

[Anonymous No.2890215]

>>2890180
Road could curve more, good castle base, but try to add detail to break up the flat surfaces

[Anonymous No.2890220]

>>2890180
I could easily launch a volley of rocks into that open hole of a wall.

[Anonymous No.2890223]

Just some drawing. I really didn't want to make this guy such a string bean but I was using a child for the pose while making him into an adult. Didn't really work..

[Anonymous No.2890227]

>>2890223
Arm on the door could probably be longer, it's at a weird angle

[Anonymous No.2890257]

>>2890227
Yeah I definitely see that, I feel like if I didn't make the are as much of a noodle it would help the angle too. Like actually show where the elbow is instead of kind of obscuring it. (The kid was holding a gun forward so I kind of cheated there too.)

[Anonymous No.2890261]

>>2890257
Yee, also the head would be turned more to the right. Cool drawing though, what idea were your going off of?

[Anonymous No.2890267]

>>2890261
So if you see to the right of the figure I wrote 19:46, that's where I paused this episode of "Tales From The Crypt." Stupid me though, I can't figure out what episode it was. Still some kid was playing with a toy gun in like a junkyard I believe. He finds something strange, I remember. In the shot at that time of the episode he makes that pose and stands in front of a big fridge from what I remember. So I got the idea as if he opened a door to another dimension kind of.. Basically pausing the video and making a different scene out of the same pose.

[Anonymous No.2890269]

>>2890214
Update

[Anonymous No.2890270]

>>2890267
Cool beans

[Anonymous No.2890285]

>>2887529
I would say your issue is the left cheek bone maybe? Try lifting it up so its aligned better with the right side

[Anonymous No.2890294]

>>2887601
maybe a rusty orange/red? B/w is safest bet though

[Anonymous No.2890305]

>>2890269
RESIZE ROTATE >beg REEE

[Anonymous No.2890311]

>>2888870

are you autistic soft edges are what make or break a painting

[Anonymous No.2890320]

>>2890311
There's lots of good images with only hard edges though. Just look at someone like Alberto Mielgo.

[Anonymous No.2890333]

[Anonymous No.2890349]

>>2887067
brush config m8?

[Anonymous No.2890385]

>>2890269
Rotate and resize. Also, >>>/beg/

[Anonymous No.2890549]

Welp, this is my latest progress in drawing the human figure from imagination.

I've still got a ways to go on this stuff, but it gets easier the more you do it.

[Anonymous No.2890563]

>>2886570
Drew it in photoshop.

[Anonymous No.2890564]

>>2890563
That shirt and hand are really well done.

[Anonymous No.2890572]

>>2890333
solid work

[Anonymous No.2890592]

doing a generic reproduction of one of Berserk's panels

how do I get more realistic hair from a manga standpoint?

also, am I better off experimenting with colours to make this more unique, or is it too far along to do colour in a respectable timeframe where I'd just be better off doing a different sketch of Griffith?

[Anonymous No.2890599]

>>2890549
Made some fatal measurements on the face, and cleaned it up some.

[Anonymous No.2890600]

>>2890599
Do you ever draw figures from photos or life? You're trying to invent everything and making a lot of very major mistakes in anatomy and proportion.

[Anonymous No.2890610]

colored pencil

[Anonymous No.2890614]

>>2890600
I've been primarily drawing from 3D models to get a good idea as to how the human body works in perspective. I never really layed this out, and I ran off of an initial gesture. I didn't give the anatomy enough thought on top of this. I never layed down a single bone, and I guess it shows. Can someone help me out with a redline?

[Anonymous No.2890628]

>>2886570
Did a little female anatomy study. Wasn't happy with it and crumpled it up. Took it back out cause I figured some of yall could give me some critique.

[Anonymous No.2890645]

>>2890628
I'll share some of Moebius' wisdom with you: "When you draw, you must first cleanse yourself of deep feelings, like hate, happiness, ambition, etc."

Logic is the better than self-loathing. It's fine if you're not satisfied with your work, that means you can improve, unlike most "artists" who delude themselves into complacency. Just don't get angry and crumple up your work, please. You put in a good effort and you should let yourself feel satisfied.You actually DID something, that's more than a hell of a lot of aspiring artists can say.

As for critique, I would say draw directly from life to get a better grasp on 3-dimensional forms, learn how to manipulate your pencil lines to express those forms.

If you want more Moebius wisdom (I strongly recommend to everyone who hasn't read it yet): http://www.openculture.com/2015/03/moebius-gives-18-wisdom-filled-tips-to-aspiring-artists-1996.html

[Anonymous No.2890648]

>>2890645
>You put in a good effort and you should let yourself feel satisfied.You actually DID something, that's more than a hell of a lot of aspiring artists can say.
Made me tear up a little, I guess it's because our expectations for ourselves goes up higher every single time we get better and are able to do more.

[Anonymous No.2890663]

>>2890628
Preciate it anon.

I wasn't mad, just chucked it cause I didn't feel like keeping it.

[Anonymous No.2890664]

>>2890663
meant to reply to >>2890645

[Anonymous No.2890667]

Just did it while ago
Always liked tattoo art

[Anonymous No.2890668]

The poses are literally the same
Other than that, how did I do?

Hopefully it's not too big. Here's a screencap before my phone dies.

[Anonymous No.2890679]

>>2890645
>When you produce drawings that are too quick or too loose, besides making mistakes, you run the risk of creating an entity without soul or spirit.
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.2890687]

>>2890679
I interpret it as if they are too quick and loose they are sloppy and therefore don't have your full intent behind them, which is what gives something its spirit.

Here is what William Stout says on it: http://www.williamstout.com/news/journal/?p=3815

[Anonymous No.2890754]

>>2890294
>>2888701

thank you. i wanted it colored to make the guy stand out more, and i was thinking about red/orange on the moons and darker blue tones on the main planet.. if i go b&w i have to use pens, and the lines might take away the focus from the character. Or mb ill use graphite.. thanks for suggestions

[Anonymous No.2890756]

>>2890149
nice hypno toad

[Anonymous No.2890758]

I'm pretty sure i need is to add more shadows

what else can i do?

[Anonymous No.2890761]

>>2890667
Nice line, although subject is quite generic. Are you finished? Add some shading with hatching or color it a bit, at least basic shadows with watercolor or marker. Also the black thing could have some light reflected or something to make it look like a sphere. Depends on what you are going for, but the line weight might vary - it would be more alive. quite nice nontheless
>>2890668
Very good sketch, i dig it. Everything looks correct. insta?

[Anonymous No.2890762]

>>2890758
Clean the lines, add details and his eye sockects looks empy- like the lids bend inside his scull, work on the shadows there.

[Anonymous No.2890763]

>>2890762
skull lol.

[Anonymous No.2890770]

>>2886570
feet study.

[Anonymous No.2890814]

>>2888474
you should up the detail on that bike some brother, you've got all the scaffolding in place.

[Anonymous No.2890817]

>>2890770
feet dont look like that

[Anonymous No.2890818]

>>2888474
composition seems weird to me

[Anonymous No.2890823]

eeeee

[Anonymous No.2890829]

>>2890817
It's not my fault if you are born crippled, man.

[Anonymous No.2890878]

>>2890818
What are you on about? They look aight to me, especially given the hard subject (jesus feet are worse than hands)

[Anonymous No.2890887]

>>2890829
i think you mean handicapped/disabled. cripples still have feet.

[Anonymous No.2890946]

[Anonymous No.2890956]

>>2888474
sexy

[Anonymous No.2891029]

>>2890761
Thanks man
My insta is https://www.instagram.com/12toe/

[Anonymous No.2891038]

>>2886570
Almost finished.

[Anonymous No.2891052]

>>2891038
looks boring anon, render it better

[Anonymous No.2891381]

>>2890269
The shape of her breasts and her hair look quite nice. Everything else is complete shit. Go and study anatomy intensely. Also, what the other guys said.

[Anonymous No.2891383]

Finally finished! Went with color, and i think it looks good. Im actually quite proud of this one, so gimme your worst!

[Anonymous No.2891394]

>>2891038
>>2891383
you two could learn from each other. One of you rendered your background beautifully whereas the figures lack definition, and the other one did the opposite.

[Anonymous No.2891403]

>>2891394
that was the plan, i wanted them simple. does it look bad?

[Anonymous No.2891430]

>>2891383
ive also got story behind this- gimme your thoughts if you will;

"Human race is at war. AI rebelled after 200 years of serving our cause, and we are slowly but surely losing the battle. “The Seed” is our last desperate effort, our only chance, to save the humanity. Project in which we put all resources – chance to colonize distant earth-type worlds. Handful of many volunteers has been chosen to serve as the seeds, to spread across the galaxy. It was a great sacrifice- to survive travel at high speeds and then administer the preparation and colonization of new earths, the bio-engineered parasite was injected to their spines and skulls. It strengthened bones and tissues allowing to survive the journey, but more importantly, it turned the volunteers mind into a human-machine, completely erasing any traces of personality leaving only one purpose; to build. To coordinate efforts of countless nano-bots, stored in “The Ark”, ships on which they traveled, alongside with hundreds of thousands of embryos (I guess people dying to protect the laboratories and ensure the launch of nearly 50 Seeds needed something dramatic but not necessarily original). All Scientists who knew routes to the new worlds committed suicide after Arks launched, and all data was turned to ashes, so the AI could not chase the beacons of hope. Once – or if – The Seed arrived to its target, the Ark would burry itself in the ground, and turn into a factory. Then, nanobots would start the search for necessary elements. Once the bridgehead has been build, process of resurrection of our race may start – with the seed buried deep underneath the city, as its forever beating heart."

[Anonymous No.2891438]

>>2891383
I really like the scratching shades on the main body. Why is the window not shaded like that too?

[Anonymous No.2891472]

>>2891438
I wanted hatching only on the dude, and also a color accent- call it an experiment. I take it you dont like the bg?

[Anonymous No.2891567]

holy shit the OP pic is my painting from like 2 years ago. sweet

[Anonymous No.2891577]

>>2891567
Have you improved at all? 2 years is a long time.

[Anonymous No.2891580]

>>2886570

[Anonymous No.2891758]

>>2890817
i was going to complain that the feet looks TRACED, and here comes the underage /b/ trolltard and proves to me, once and for all, that /ic/ was invaded by he most talentless, tasteless, dumbest retarded posters to ever crawl on 4chan.
Good to know that /ic/ opinions are worth shit.
This explains why great artists avoid posting here completely.

[Anonymous No.2891762]

>>2891758
>/ic/ is one guy

[Anonymous No.2891779]

>>2891762
wrong. /ic/ is more or less three people.
I´m number two.

[Anonymous No.2891825]

>>2891758
>traced
well atleast im not THAT retarded

[Anonymous No.2891865]

>>2891762
one guy, with 200+ others inside there head.

[Anonymous No.2891910]

>>2891779
and im the first. been here since 05

[Anonymous No.2891912]

>>2891910
How has /ic/ changed since then?

[Anonymous No.2891915]

>>2891910
You poor soul. And please tell me you are a pro now.

[Anonymous No.2891955]

I think the foreshortening on the dude is kinda fucked, but I feel like I'm done with this.

[Anonymous No.2891984]

it's a complete mess.
any tips?

[Anonymous No.2891986]

>>2891984
Well, throwing away your stuff in the trash instead of on the floor is a good start.

[Anonymous No.2891994]

>>2891910
Please be a pro. You have to have made it by now senpai.

[Anonymous No.2891996]

>>2891986
the trash can's full in my head. guess i didnt draw any scribbles to indicate this.

[Anonymous No.2892163]

what do you think? not intro hands and feet yet. And..

[Anonymous No.2892166]

>>2892163
model is from 1000 nudes book

[Anonymous No.2892386]

>>2886570
I'm trying out a photo study and skin practice, never done this before aha :'')

[Anonymous No.2892421]

>>2891038
looks nice anon. and this is no lie.

it's good enough to be finished.

[Anonymous No.2892446]

>>2888471
>>2888474
damn that's sexy, do you post on social media?

[Anonymous No.2892447]

>>2888773
I like it, blog?

[Anonymous No.2892451]

>>2888899
reminds me of wikihow illustrations
also quads n dubs gg

[Anonymous No.2892455]

>>2891912
people say there was a point in time /ic/ was actually good, but those are newfags. /ic/ never changed. its always been the same.
>>2891915
>>2891994
im just a hobbyist

[Odonka No.2892456]

>>2892447

is this a ruse?

[Anonymous No.2892458]

>>2892386
>photo study and skin practice
For starters lay down your background color first. Get it to match the ref as closely as possible. Use this as an anchor to compare and establish other color relationships.

A white canvas makes it hard to judge value and color accurately.

[Anonymous No.2892462]

>>2890614
A redline would need to redraw the whole figure. Literally nothing is right about it.

[Odonka No.2892472]

>>2892447
http://nat5gye.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2892510]

>>2891577
Hope that made your day! :)
You're in some anon's inspiration folder...

[Anonymous No.2892514]

>>2891394
Mmh, thanks for the crit. I'm stuck on pushing the figures beyond this level, so I might have to do more human studies in general.

[Anonymous No.2892516]

>>2891567

Hope that made your day! :)
You're in some anon's inspiration folder...

[Anonymous No.2892664]

>>2892462
That's why I need one.

[xnosebro No.2892698]

>>2890823
ryonen <3

[Anonymous No.2892702]

>>2886570

[Anonymous No.2892723]

>>2892702
Pretty nice anon! Only think I see that looks a bit off are the sloped planes of the roof. The edges and lines along them should be converging on a vanishing point up in the sky somewhere.

[Anonymous No.2892768]

>>2892723
Yup, I got impatient... Thanks! :)

[Anonymous No.2892867]

>>2890349
mixer heavy dry

[Anonymous No.2892876]

I've been messing around with crayons this week. Also sketches made during classes.

[Anonymous No.2892880]

>>2892876
>you must be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan

[Anonymous No.2892887]

>>2892880
Call mods than.

[Anonymous No.2892888]

>>2892887
Then* Don't grammar nazi me

[Anonymous No.2892899]

Quick comp, anything needs fixing before I continue?

[Anonymous No.2892909]

>>2892899
>flying whale
>man in foreground with blowing cape
>pointy rock spires aimed at focal point
>greyscale with values in a 1/2/3 depth read
How many cliches can you fit into a single image anon?

[Anonymous No.2892948]

Hello
need feedback

[Anonymous No.2892951]

>>2892909
dont be a dick about it. like every animetard here is so original. The drawing is nice, good composition, and since when flying whales are cliches?

[Anonymous No.2892952]

>>2892899
love it! make the cape red!

[Anonymous No.2892974]

>>2892948
Looks good. Something odd about the way her left leg is bent, though.

[Anonymous No.2892978]

>>2892909
Don't worry, the chromatic aberration comes later

>>2892952
Thanks, man

[Anonymous No.2892985]

I just want to be good at art. Nothing else matters.

[Anonymous No.2892994]

>>2892985
You should study from photos or life to get a better sense of structure and proportion. You've compressed certain parts of the face and made other parts too large like the neck and eye socket. Less looking at Ruanjia or whatever, more looking at nature.

[Anonymous No.2893004]

>>2892994
Now that you pointed it out,I see that it's fucked up, but i can't fix it.

should i nuke it, or just study then come back to it?

[Anonymous No.2893014]

>>2893004
I mean it's really easy to find reference for something like a face. Just find one or more images from similar angles and use them to help you correct your painting.

[Anonymous No.2893015]

>>2893004
ignore this

[Anonymous No.2893064]

>>2892446
>do you post on social media?
is this the new "blog?" post?

[Anonymous No.2893081]

>>2893064
>instagram?
>tumblr?
>blogspot?
>wordpress?
>facebook?
>artstation?
>behance?
>drawcrowd?
>personal website?
>cghub? (rip)

[Anonymous No.2893529]

yeah i photobashed the clouds in but will probably change em up later. at least its my own photo

[Anonymous No.2893535]

>>2893081

>homeaddress?

[Anonymous No.2893555]

>>2893529
perspective bruh

[Anonymous No.2893606]

wew lad is oil painting slow, weather's shit as well so can't go out often

[Anonymous No.2893613]

[Anonymous No.2893627]

hehe

[Anonymous No.2893639]

>>2893529
hopefully something of an improvement. goodnight /ic/

[Anonymous No.2893705]

[Anonymous No.2893878]

>>2892876
Nice!

[Anonymous No.2893923]

>>2892899
Could use more overlap in the midground, why do you have this little gap in foreground rocks, it doesn't help lead the eye - the figure + value contrast + smaller clusters of details should be enough to pull the eye to that part of the image, the hole detracts more than it adds.

As is its a really dull \ / valley. These should be quick for you to generate, I expect the next time you post for you to have 4 more variations on this idea!

[Anonymous No.2893943]

these threads really have gone to shit

[Anonymous No.2893958]

>>2893943
they have always been that way u idiot.

[Anonymous No.2893980]

>>2893958

there used to be some nuggets in the river of shit around 14-15 but now everything is just shit

[Anonymous No.2894001]

>>2893980
no ur retarded

[Anonymous No.2894002]

>>2886570

[Anonymous No.2894037]

>>2887100
jan buragay? is that you?

[Anonymous No.2894050]

>>2893923
sorry senpai but yours still looks boring

[Anonymous No.2894052]

Doing this three part thing.thoughts on that last one would be much appreciated as I'm only sketching things up ,trying to see what works and what doesn't


>>2893639
seek a higher contrast,and actually pain the clouds

>>2892948
too much empty space at the right,her left hand should be smaller because it's farther away

[Anonymous No.2894055]

>>2894050
Feel free to do a paintover, i'm curious to see what direction you'd take it. I find it hard to retain someones core composition and make drastic changes. For example; >>2891038 - I'd want to change that to the extent it'd require repainting the scene rather than offering up bandaid like feedback.

[Anonymous No.2894068]

>>2891038
this looks fine,colors are it's best aspect.
please draw the left leg on that girl,she looks like and amputee for fuck sakes.
study tree logs. you are drawing them like they are man made structures

[Anonymous No.2894085]

>>2894052
I just wanna say I love the view of the middle piece. The way the perspective on the hills in the background is slightly birds-eye makes them feel as tall as mountains, fitting for a world with boars the size of elephants.

I also like the fact that all three have characters actually interacting with the world. I think this is the best way to portray a setting, rather than a large open view with the cliched silhouette looking forward. It's just that I can't get immersed in a world full of slack-jawed wanderers who find themselves suddenly awestruck by this fantastical world that they apparently LIVE IN.

I look forward to seeing where the third one takes your characters. I just hope it's not some boring old volcano.

[Anonymous No.2894106]

>>2891383
The figure is awesome, but the environment doesn't match tonally. It seems way too bright and simplistic. Even if you just went over the planets with darker shades that could help the mood. Also, I think by making their shapes so defined it really betrays their scale -- at first I thought the scene outside the window was the horizon of a black sea and blue sky, with two mysterious floating orbs. It's mostly the lava one that bothers me -- it's kinda cartoonish and sloppy, completely unlike the central figure.

>>2891430
Sounds interesting, but the "space Ark" is kind of a cliched plot device, and not exactly a plot in itself. I'm interested in the potential aspect of humanity needing to essentially become the AI that they're running away from in order to survive space travel. Ironically, your story seems to focus on the worldbuilding aspect over characters, while your image focuses on the singular character over the environment he's situated in. They have potential, but right now the ideas seem a bit adrift in space, if you will.

[Anonymous No.2894118]

>>2894085
hey man thanks so much,this leaves me quite happy because it was precisely what I was trying to achieve(i know the rendering and designs aren't that great or original).
Really trying to get away from the "large open view with the cliched silhouette looking forward" meme and actually developing a little plot.

As for the last one,rest easy ,it's a castle(dragon is going to come from behind the castle)

[Anonymous No.2894218]

>>2894052
duuuuuuuudeee.

this is cool.

[Anonymous No.2894433]

her eyes are off i think. anyone got painting tips?

[Anonymous No.2894438]

>>2894433
Don't think of the eye as a flat slit, think of it as two lids (with some slight thickness to them) wrapping around a sphere. You also probably want to include some eyelash indication since she has a ton of makeup on she would probably have some thick eyelashes as well. Get some reference and fix things.

[Anonymous No.2894467]

>>2894433
why is that one stroke on the nose so bloody orange when all the rest has more pinkish tones. its jarring.

[Anonymous No.2894485]

Recently finished this, any tips on how to get the clothing to look more natural, or just general tips for improvment?

[Anonymous No.2894495]

>>2894438
>>2894467
thanks dudes, i fixed the orange stroke thingy and gonna look up different views on eyes to practice.

[Anonymous No.2894515]

how do you go about painting from a detailed lineart? I feel like I'm on the verge of figuring it out, but it always escapes me. Do i just grind through?

[Anonymous No.2894691]

What can I turn this block into besides a generic spaceship?

[Anonymous No.2894694]

>>2894691
A stone block just floating in the air to be honest desu.

Works just as it is. Makes me wonder why the stone is there.

[Anonymous No.2894695]

>>2894691
A house or barn might be neat

[Anonymous No.2894696]

>>2894691
An anvil that says like 100 tons on it in white

[Anonymous No.2894701]

>>2894691
anime gurl

[Anonymous No.2894702]

>>2894691
A foot of a giant.

[Anonymous No.2894704]

>>2894515
Put lines on 5% opactiy, paint in occlusion shadow where needed.

I personally merge the lines and paint over them, but I admit that's not the fastest method.

[Anonymous No.2894748]

>>2894515
depends on the aesthetic you want at the end of it, post an example of what you're striving for stylistically and it'll be easier to answer the question.

[Anonymous No.2894769]

>>2894748
I've always been able to draw or paint separately, but i've never been able to combine them like you'd see in a league splash art or pic related.

[Anonymous No.2894871]

>>2886570
Hi guys Check my art, she is my best friend
C&C

[Anonymous No.2894872]

>>2894769
das nice man. got a blog?

[Anonymous No.2894904]

>>2894769
You really could take any number of approachs - Make a selection of the areas and use masks while painting over the lineart, merging as you see fit so you can keep looser less computer generated clean edges. Or as in 3. try painting under your lineart for a while and using it as a guide for general values and color before slowly painting over it when you have a better sense of what you want.

Theres many ways to go about it, it depends on how you're using your lineart as a stepping stone - a general guide or a concise one to make neat selections from.

You might find; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTPD-Im7Fls_7hhdvi79jfg - his process interesting, its very clinical but it works well.

[Anonymous No.2895224]

I am still figuring out what's where hereabouts. Posting art for critique/advice on what I should be doing with my time to get better, given what I am making now. Including some sketchbook study stuff in case that helps.

[Anonymous No.2895238]

>>2894872
not mine. it's by Adam Lee

[Anonymous No.2895312]

>>2888369
instead of just cross hatching at 90 degree angles, have you tried hatching along the form of the object? might make it look less flat.

[Anonymous No.2895315]

>>2890599
Lol what the fuck

[Anonymous No.2895316]

>>2895312
keki

[Anonymous No.2895317]

>>2895312
Not that guy, but I've been wanting to try this type of shading. I doubt I have the patience though. Maybe after copious amounts of Ritalin.

[Anonymous No.2895344]

need feedback!
Is it looks like Hogsmid ?

[Anonymous No.2895350]

>>2895344
Technically, its a good painting. But I feel it needs more gothic and old Britain architectural influence.

[Anonymous No.2895352]

>>2895350
hmmm..can you show examples ?

[Anonymous No.2895353]

>>2894904
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WFZ_M19_tQ

jesus christ

[Anonymous No.2895355]

>>2894691
A rusty container that's being telekinetically lifted by a kid on the ground.

[Anonymous No.2895360]

>>2886630
>>2887714
think I'm done here

[Anonymous No.2895361]

>>2895353
see it.....kill me please ,its so amazing

[Anonymous No.2895369]

>>2891038
it's nice anon

[Anonymous No.2895381]

>>2895360
i sorta understand the middle left, but the rest of it is just a complete mess. i cant work out what any of it is.

[Anonymous No.2895398]

>>2895381
plants, anon.

It's what I'm doing right now >>2893606

is another, it's a kinda palm.

[Anonymous No.2895416]

an attempt was made

[Anonymous No.2895418]

>>2891955
The dude's foreshortening is ok if taken separately. It just doesn't match the perspective of the rest of the scene at all. It's like he's leaning way back (but the shadow is like he's standing). Maybe you were going for a fisheye perspective but again the rest of the scene doesn't match. You should see this kind of thing in the early stages of the sketch where you take the whole scene's perspective into account.

[Anonymous No.2895446]

>>2894106
nice crits. i agree. the story was meant to quickly show bg behind the drawing (made for insta) but i see you picked on the most important part.

todays practice, the objective was to get better at freehand drawing with pens. And also to get better at skulls. One more will follow

[Anonymous No.2895449]

>>2895446

[Anonymous No.2895481]

Funny how you're in love with your drawing and then come to hate everything about it after staring at it for too long. I guess that's how you learn.

[Anonymous No.2895501]

i get why people put the tools they use in photos now

its not for memery it really does help focus the drawing when taking a photo and gives a reference to size etc

[Anonymous No.2895506]

Doing this for a fanzine with other artists, so I want to know if there are any major things I need to fix. I've never done a pose this complicated before so I'm super nervous about messing something up. It's supposed to be weiss from rwby btw

[Anonymous No.2895741]

>>2895344
I'd make the cart closer to the viewer, it would add more depth to your pic

[Anonymous No.2896096]

Can i post link to my stream here ?

[Anonymous No.2896269]

working on this. 42"x34", oil. gonna do more fine textural parts of it tomorrow.

[DRAW THREAD No.2896385]

This drawthread is kill. Post in new one >2896383

[Anonymous No.2898296]

>>2896385
assuming you meant >>2896383