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Improvement / Befor and After / Motivation thread?

Post your cringe drawings from long ago and slightly-less-cringe drawings from today.

>> No.2864493
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>>2864491
>Less cringe
>Bad pokemon porn

>> No.2864494

>>2864493
you're hurting my feelings, anon-kun

>> No.2864496

>>2864491

I puked.

>> No.2864503

>>2864496
post yours after you clean up

>> No.2864506
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Hopefully this'll inspire you to not be as shit as me

>> No.2864515

>>2864506
You are right. I am bad but I didn't waste years to barely improve

>> No.2864520

>>2864506
fuck anon... how much did you draw?
i'm sorry but you need to get your shit together if you want to git gud in this lifetime

>> No.2864537

>>2864520
>git gud in this lifetime
Assuming that I'll live till 80, I got a solid 60 yrs left

>> No.2864541

>>2864537
This attitude is why you're not gonna make it

>> No.2864548

>>2864541
sorry for being a newfag but why does everyone here say "you're not gonna make it". make it at what? is there an assumption that everyone here wants to be some sort of calarts graduate professional or something?

>> No.2864550

>>2864506
Go back to the fundamentals. Spend at least a couple of months getting them to stick in your head so it becomes second nature.

Learn how to construct forms with the use of primitive shapes, how to make organic forms feel 3D with the use of contour and texture, and shadow, how to make effective use of perspective, draw from life and photo reference, focusing on what primitive shapes the subject is composed of.

There's a lot to learn, and it can be quite mundane, but you won't get anywhere unless you put the effort in.

>> No.2864552

>>2864548
Originally meant to thrive in an artistic industry (concept art, illustration, etc.).

>> No.2864572

>>2864541
Like I said, I got a solid 60 yrs. If I dont make it by then I obviously wasnt meant to "make it." Thanks though?

>>2864550
>Go back to the fundamentals
Way ahead of you captain. Some anon gave me tips awhile back to redo fundies. Since then, I've going through scott robinsons book for the past few months. thanks for the reinforcement lol

>> No.2864592

>>2864548
Make it to your dreams!

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>> No.2864656

>>2864595
Amazing improvement, anon. I can tell you put in the effort at those fundamentals. I really like the atmosphere of that campfire one, although the composition could be better

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wadda ya think folks? I feel like I hit some stagnation after 15.

>> No.2864697

>>2864491
You should look up to artists better than modeseven

>> No.2864704

>>2864697
I have never even heard of this person before

>> No.2864743

>>2864704
The fruit with the pink hair is someone he draws a lot

>> No.2864765

>>2864595
looks good! Congrats on the good work.

though, it's kinda flat and boring.

>> No.2864767

>>2864743
You are aware that's a character from the recent Pokemon game, right?

Of course people are going to draw him

>> No.2864773

>>2864506
I'll be honest dude, I improved more than you in that time period by not drawing.

>> No.2864775

>>2864691
You, haven't improved... at all?

>> No.2864777

literal motivation thread, because everyone else is garbage.

>> No.2864779
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my submission
idk if I've improved or not, i think i have?

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>>2864777
Spitting truth.
Fucking check em'

>> No.2864788
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>these are the people giving you advice

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>> No.2864809

>>2864572
Its not about how long you have, its the "oh ive got pleeeenty of time so its fine if im shit now" mindset that doesnt allow you to progress. You should always aim to improve everyday, not tommorow

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>> No.2864920

>>2864809
>mindset that doesnt allow you to progress
false, my mindest throughout 2013-2016 was to improve as much as I could. obviously that wasnt enough; i didnt find ic until 2014, so i built a bad habit for an entire year

november/december of 2016, I took a step back and decided to focus on more important issues. I still draw everyday and I still read books to get a better idea of what im missing. My mindset, for the past few months, is just to have fun and enjoy it while getting a better understanding of what ive been missing. thanks for trying to be that boss that tries to help his employees improve?

>> No.2865158

>>2864775
Maybe in some ways. I can't be sure

>> No.2865236

>>2864920

Sure, after all you're the one who clearly knows what he's talking about. Dunning Kruger-Kun

>> No.2865264

>>2864920
You're still shit.
Everything you've made is fucking garbage.

Why even bother to draw if you're not going to learn how it works as a skill?

You need to learn all about perspective and how boxes rotate/move in it.

You're always going to be a very weak artist until you do so. Every line is built in perspective from the last strand of hair to the eye-ball.

>> No.2865265

>>2864920
You don't even know how the human body really functions in perspective.

Take some time and break every major part of this animation into boxes.

Adjust for tilt and rotation.

https://sketchfab.com/models/188f61b8d3fe46f6ae0b5ac1cccad10b

You'll learn fastest what the human body can do in this way.

>> No.2865267

>>2864691
Literally zero improvement. Nice taste though faggot

>> No.2865269

>>2864920
There are so many problems that are easily solved if an artist understands and comprehends perspective.

Bone placement is terribly easy once you know to push it back and off to the side via vanishing points.

You'll stop being shit once you get decent at perspective and moving/rotating boxes.

It's the basis for all drawing of any sort.

>> No.2865274

>>2864491
>freckles
you fucked up

>> No.2865293

>>2865264
>youre shit
cool? as long as youre doing better than me, i dont mind

>perspective and boxes
like i said, im going through scott robertsons book. i'll probably grind more of it once i finish this semester of school; or sooner, depends. until then im just going to take it slow

>>2865265
thanks, ill check it out

>> No.2865298

>>2865293
That book is no replacement for understanding how a box rotates via experience.

This is literally the meat and potatoes of everything.

>> No.2865299

>>2865293
You're better off reading perspective made easy.

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eh

>> No.2865305

>>2865267
);

>> No.2865312
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Haven't been in the mood to draw recently

>> No.2865314

>>2865312
this is sad to look at

>> No.2865315

>>2865314
I know it is

>> No.2865319

>>2865312
I wouldn't be either if I drew noses 20 ft long.
Learn how boxes affect the head, and learn some basic proportion.

It's all built out of perspective. Everything you make will be bad, ugly, and flat until you put it in perspective.

Check out this skull.
It's a box with a face, side, and back.
It has vanishing points, and it never stops having vanishing points no matter what angle it's at.

It's no wonder your heads look so flat and bad when you neglect the main thing that comprises everything you see IRL: Perspective. It's the only real way to draw.

https://sketchfab.com/models/fb58d5c28e6349d9868814c58c45d34c

>> No.2865323

>>2865312
You've gone about drawing in a completely incorrect manner.

Go read perspective made easy, and figure out how the vanishing points get effected when you move a box around. You can do this by grabbing your cell phone and moving it around in your hand.

>> No.2865331

>>2865312
This is the primary reason everything is so hard to draw for you. When you don't deal in reality, you deal in a mental abstraction that has no concrete rules. Trying to visualize a bone becomes hell. Trying to pose a figure in a more complicated stance than a straight stand is terribly difficult.

I advise you to stop painting and start drawing.

Don't give up friend.

>> No.2865332

>>2865319
> Perspective. It's the only real way to draw.
Thanks. I've been basing all my information on what my friend had taught me, but he's never brought up perspective

>> No.2865338

>>2865332
You should be learning from the best, not the mediocre/worst.

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2013/10/01/norling-perspective-made-easy/norling-perspective-made-easy.pdf

Books are the source you need to learn from. Read the sticky. They're all available on the internet for free if you type in the book name and then "PDF" into google.

>> No.2865357

>>2865332
Don't forget,

everybody wastes time.

>> No.2865367

>>2865332
Perspective is a meme by the way. You can draw perfectly fine as long as you understand how you want objects to look which just so happens to be in perspective. But /ic/ want you to adhere to the perspective grid.

>> No.2865370

>>2865367
>Perspective is a meme

It's definitively not.
You can stylize and alter once you know what it looks like proper.

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>> No.2865407

>>2865393
Pretty good progress! Keep up the good work, anon!

>> No.2865416

>>2865367
>way. You can draw perfectly fine as long as you understand how you want objects to look which just so happens to be in perspective
>you can draw fine if you follow the rules of perspective but you don't need to learn perspective
Jesus fucking christ how retarded are you anon?

>> No.2865437

>>2865304
I'm not qualified to judge but i think you improved noticeably.

>> No.2865443

>>2865304
You're really good, anon. Got a blog? Cute stuff.

>> No.2865476

>>2864788
That's why you only come here for the books.Then gtfo as quick as possible if u want to git gud.

>> No.2865496

>>2864691
those pit eyes... they're staring into my soul

>> No.2865553

>>2864917
i masturbate to your stuff man
good job

>> No.2865595

>>2865304
stop drawing anime.

>> No.2865717

>>2865298
>via experience
I'll just do still lifes and mess around with cardboard boxes as complementary studies; while I go through the book

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have i improved?

>> No.2865816

>>2865815
Probably not, looks like you only draw the same thing.

>> No.2865921

>>2865815
What happened in 2014 and why did you stop?

>> No.2865926

>>2865921
i bought a wacom in 2014 and then 2015 i started watching anime

>> No.2865929
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>>2865815
The mouths jesus christ, I know it's a stylistic choice but...

>> No.2865931

>>2865312
this is why i refuse to paint till i start to make my drawings not look like shit

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>>2865929
is this better?

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Two sketches, I remember being very proud of the 2013. Now I look at my current drawings and feel shame

>> No.2865984

>>2865476
>That's why you only come here for the books.Then gtfo as quick as possible if u want to git gud.

A shame literally no one who writes stuff like this ever takes their own advice, because clearly you didn't just stop by ITT on a quick book-retrieval mission

>> No.2865986

>>2864506
did you even read the sticky!?

>> No.2865991

>>2865926
>anime
>not even once

>> No.2866017

>>2865991
baddies for some reason always love to blame anime for why they suck.

>> No.2866044

>>2865983
I like them both...
The 2017 looks like the same style that the youtuber Rob Dyke uses in some of his videos (when he wants some visuals) when the things he talk about are a bit more graphic for youtube. (he has an artist that does that work for him)

Meanwhile i just started painting (if you could even call it that, more like editing) and it looks teribad. ^^

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>>2864788
Looking at this thread made me realize that practically no one "gits gud" in their life... the "never gonna make it meme" is true.

>> No.2866056

>>2866051
This is just the people with no life and free time to post in a thread like this. All the people who made it are busy making it.

>> No.2866069

For some reason, every artist goes through that phase where they won't stop drawing boobs

>> No.2866083
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I draw allot but I tried to leave out as many drawings as I could but I'm super indecisive, which shows as I hop from style to style with each doodle or drawing trying to find myself.

Don't know where I am or where I should be going.
But I started reading my first art book last week so maybe I'll get some answers out of it.

Tell me how I'm doing.

>> No.2866091

>>2866083
You made some pretty decent progress, better than majority of /ic/ but you still have a long way to go. Keep studying your fundamentals, anatomy, light and shadow, form, color theory etc,

>> No.2866097

>>2866051
oh yeah i forgot how eight years is an entire lifetime

>> No.2866100

>>2864491
>less cringe
>a picture of a pedophilia material where a kid fucking some dick girl in her ass
Im as faggy as the next guy but man this is some retarded shit

>> No.2866103

>>2864491
>this OP pic
cant you just delete this thread?
a progress thread would be nice but i wont post mine in this one

>> No.2866105

>>2866083
are u black

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>part 1

This is from 2012, believe it or not these were my best peices from that year, there are way worse/cringey shit that came out of this time span.

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>>2866126
This is my jouney to where I am now in 2016, still got a long way to go and I'm beginning to use reference now as of 2017 I would never use it in the past, which I guess is good because it let me develop my imagination skills, but I also feel it held me back in some respects.

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>>2865312
>when they tell you that you can't be in the apprentice anymore because you have to run the country

>> No.2866224

>>2866185
ruin*

>> No.2866241

>>2864917
hola bbcchan
you are my cenond biggest pornspiration

>> No.2866243

>>2865931
which is a huge mistake
values and colors are fundamentals and rendering skills dont come from nowhere

>> No.2866252

>>2866224
That's a strange way of spelling "fix."

>> No.2866287

>>2866100
Red is not a kid in Pokemon SM.

>> No.2866298

>>2866287
And Ilima is a guy, not a dickgirl, but you seem have forgot that.

>> No.2866316

>>2866105
For the last time you cannot have my ebon wool anon..

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>>2864779

>> No.2866359

>>2864804

again with you?
blurring it isnt going to make you happier

>> No.2866375

>>2866083
i think hes gonna make it

fucking love your progress on rendering so far this year, anon. keep it up.

>> No.2866386

YOU GUYS HAVE TO STOP DRAWING WEEBSHIT

>> No.2866411

>>2866386
People pay money for furry and hentai weebshit, not your shitty "original" work

>> No.2866437

>>2866411
You dont git gud by drawing weebshit

>> No.2866441

>>2866437

but do you get money?

>> No.2866445

>>2866441
by giting gud

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>>2864491

>> No.2866480
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The last time I posted mine was in 2015. Also, I want to mention that I stopped drawing at the start of 2016, I picked it back up at the end of 2016 when I gained interest in human anatomy and stylising. how is my improvment? if there was any... and what do you think I should start focusing on?

>> No.2866488

>>2866480
Did you develop a mental illness in the last year?
Your 2015 work has a lot of potential, 2016-17 work doesn't look "worse" per se, but its flat out weird and doesn't really look like it's pushing you to improve.

>> No.2866506

>>2866083
Teach me sensei

>> No.2866519

>>2866488
>Did you develop a mental illness in the last year?
Is it obvious that I did? I enjoy what I am drawing now compared to before and that what matters to me.

>doesn't really look like it's pushing you to improve.
how come?

>> No.2866601

>>2866097
if it takes 8 years to not improve at all, you obviously don't care enough to make it.

>> No.2866611

>>2866316
ok that must made me wonder and now im afraid to ask
can you make wool clothes out of black people hair?

>> No.2866640

>>2866465
Man, fuck.

That is as flat as a board.

I doubt this person knows basic perspective.

>> No.2866668

>>2866640
Cringey improvement is still improvement. I'm a fan of the shading style desu. They just need to practice.

>> No.2866672

>>2866668
Blind practice will only ferry them further down the hole.

>> No.2866674

>>2866091
he was already better than most of /ic/ in 2014

>> No.2866675

This is depresssing. Are there people on /ic/ with actual skill? or is it just the blind leading the blind?

>> No.2866678

>>2866675
There are and they do not need work to prove it, so stop asking.

>> No.2866726

>>2866083
>>2866675
This guy has actual skill.

>> No.2866751

>>2866672
So... then give an actual critique of how to improve- their perspective was a good start but going "fix perspective" with no detail, if they didn't see the issue when making it, it's unlikely they know where to start in fixing it.

My best advice would be to put a grid on the ground and place a vanishing point.

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>>2866083
Good shit

>> No.2866784

>>2866751
I'm fairly certain the post itself is intended to be "Oh wow, CRINGE!"

The actual artist isn't ITT, and they're now free to ruin themselves.

>> No.2866826

>>2866784
Well this is a "post your own improvement meme" thread... so they're likely lurking somewhere.

>> No.2866829

>>2864697
his art looks nothing like modeseven except for the fact that they both drew Ilima

>> No.2867114

>>2865815
>using pitch black and pure white for shading
You fell for the meme

>> No.2867116

>>2866083
Oh you're the fag that got triggered over criticism for the first piece from 2017

>> No.2867122

>>2866133
Now that's some real good shit anon.
Landscapes and composition seem pretty on point from the beginning. Figures improved a lot. Keep up the good work.

>> No.2867156

>>2866611
I have no idea what they do with the wool anon, they just crave it.

>>2867116
So... the anon who said I didn't improve?
>Triggered because I couldn't eat a lie

It's aight senpai, I'm easily discouraged so give me 2 years and I'll get over it.


Also appreciate it other anons.

>> No.2867167

>>2865815
It took you 3 years to realize that "realistic" eyes are unappealing as hell.

>> No.2867173

>>2867167
When in doubt, fundamentals

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>>2866465
>7 years

>> No.2867247

>>2865496
The ones from 2014 are genuinely horrifying. I feel like I advanced them a lot after that though. I find normal anime eyes a bit boring to draw.

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>2014
>start digital drawing after being inspired by Kill la kill, for some reason.
>amazed by first drawing, led myself to believe that im a prodigy kek
>'studies' are mostly pausing anime during interesting moments and 'absorbing' the details; also staring at kr0n drawings
>drawings are driven by hunger for recognition

>2015
>somehow lost interest in drawing
>realize im not really that special
>got lazy, only drew in the 1st quarter of the year. everything seems stale.

>2016
>one day, guy from class approaches, says he saw my works. eagerly proposes that we make a manga
>fascinated about him, i decide to see where this goes.
>got rejected by university publisher. hit him hard, tiring nights were for nothing. i kind of expected it though. guy becomes friend.
>midyear, finally acknowledge i need proper studies, start loomis heads
>friend still clinging to drawing manga as soon as possible, asks for my help again. my loomis knowledge manifests in my drawings
>he didn't submit the manga, realize his drawings are lacking
>friend decides to be better than me, i disregard it. 'not in a decade' i think
>he spends hours everyday practicing. i only practice a few hours a week, sometimes never at all.

>2017
>friend is definitely developing as an artist
>i somehow feel threatened
>finally acknowledge him as my rival

Sorry for the blog friends. That rival of mine is pretty much my only source of excitement nowadays; he's determined and all. I've accepted the fact that the two of us are practically nobodies in the world of art. But I could at least serve as the boss he needs to defeat before he enters the world stage.

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>>2866480
Your post 2016 stuff to now is depressing anon, it's not even bad it's just you could've been pretty damn good by now if you didn't stop

>what do you think I should start focusing on?

You can focus on anatomy if you want to go in that direction but do some more finished pieces please. There's a lot of half done work in that pic, that mountain landscape at the bottom left of 2014 shows you have potential so try to do more finished work like that.

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Haha, I drew the axact same drawing some years later.

And it's only fair to have furry vagina on here if OP can post gay pokeporn.

But that's already over six years ago. Maybe I'll draw it again.

>> No.2867425

>>2867421
Your redraw of this should really blown me out of my chair, since you've been drawing for more than 13 years.

>> No.2867429

>>2867425
I wish I COULD blow people out of their chairs. But I sort of stopped improving at a certain point. Been working on other skills like painting and 3D modeling.

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>>2867425
>>2867429
Also been designing much more graphical stuff.

>> No.2867444

>>2864917
Dammit, forgot about the furry rule. My bad.

>> No.2867449

These threads are an occasional reminder that I am not even remotely as good as the worst this thread has to offer for the sake of fun. Despite having years of drawing behind me.

This has inspired me to heavily consider jumping off a bridge.

>> No.2867461

>>2867449
Man, it should inspire you to draw some more.

It's never how good you are, but how good you want to be.

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>>2867381
>try to do more finished work like that
I will, what I am drawing now are somewhat autistic but It is still in fetus stage and I am confident that I can mend it into something better. thank you anon for the feed back

>> No.2867478

>>2867461

I would like to be very good. I am not any good. And I am very old and have wasted a lot of time.

So it is not inspiring. It is a mirror of wasted energy and empty potential.

>> No.2867483

>>2866480
are you okay anon

>> No.2867529
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>>2867483
I wouldn't be here if I was, I just want to make things that I enjoy and others to enjoy as well. unfortunately, what I make now doesn't live up to the expectation of those around me.

>> No.2867533

>>2867425
>13 years
>2003-2010
Go back to school, anon.

>> No.2867564

>>2867529
I actually like the weird colorful hand things.
Just keep studying anatomy and painting things you like.

>> No.2867579

>>2867529
well I've seen you around and I like your stuff, so never stop drawing. Also
>what I make now doesn't live up to the expectation of those around me

it's ok you're not alone in this, and in the big scheme it doesn't matter if you live up to your expectations. As artists, we will never live up to our expectations because it will just keep climbing higher and higher. The trick is to be on terms with your lack of self satisfaction.

>> No.2867739

>>2865815
oh god 2014 looks the best and even its bad

>> No.2867741

>>2866480

Dunno why people are shitting on the post 2016 stuff, I'd say it looks better personally. Obviously going in a different direction, but if it's an aesthetic you enjoy keep with it, I like it.

>> No.2867800

>>2864920
>to improve as much as I could
Ever heard of smart goals?
When I stopped thinking of improving in a certain time frame and started putting in a number of hours a day into drawing, that's when I improved.
In order to achieve a goal you need to set it in a manner that you can track it accordingly.
Instead of thinking "I wanna draw so much gesture drawing this month and improve!!1", set a number of sessions of gesture drawing you want to do each day and then do them all over the month.

You only improve if you plan your goals and put in the hours. Not with that "lalala, I only want to have fun while drawing and draw cute funny comics and maybe I'll improve in a month!!" shit mindset.

>> No.2867814

>>2865815
What's with the mouths??

>> No.2867818

>>2867533
I think anon meant 2003-2017? But even then it's 14 years..

>> No.2867826

>>2867564
>>2867579
>>2867741
I am doing the best of my ability to improve this year while drawing what inspires me to draw. honestly, thank you all for the motivations

>> No.2867836
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2867836

Noticed this subreddit about 2 years ago ish, and noticed then how important studies are.
Before that I saw it as the same thing as tracing.
The above one is a month or 2 before I found IC and the one underneath is a current project.

If you see problems that's bugging you about the one underneath write it up, currently having a hard time seeing where the flaws are but I see that there are alot.

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2867853

>>2864491

>> No.2867854
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>> No.2867858

>>2867853
>tfw can't even do 2014
Looks like I've got a long way to go.

>> No.2867861

>>2867365
What does your friend's art looks like m8

>> No.2867865

>>2867858
I studied for ~three-four months before drawing that picture.

>> No.2867893

>>2867853
>>2867854

Jealous.

>> No.2867924

>>2867853
>>2867854
Why does it seem like this kind of ~realistic~ painting is the end goal of everyone here?

Like, I understand the importance of references, learning how to see shapes and things in 3D, learning actual realistic anatomy, etc, even if you want to do stylized work.

But if I already have a good understanding of that, if I can correctyl place basic shadows and light sources, if my drawings have already stopped looking like a flat symbol drawing mess and I just want to work on my personal aesthetic, do I really NEED to be able to render very photorealistically like that?

Legit question, I want to improve, but my end goal is not for my art to look like that at all.

>> No.2867927

>>2867924
Rendering photorealistically is hand in hand with rendering well. If you can learn to render well, then it's no problem, but there's also no reference for such. Reference from life is with no errors, so it is perfect to study from.

>> No.2867936

>>2867924

It's an exercise to work beyond your skills in order to get better.

That's why people do it. Rendering and sketching from life emboldens you imaginative work if you want it.

>> No.2868006

>>2867180
i forgot i posted this here- I am curious about the perspective critique.

I'm also assuming pepe is displeased by the seven year gap + lack of improvement.

>> No.2868008

>>2867421
the composition and lighting is much better in the first one desu

>> No.2868016

>>2867924
If you're interested in character design, yeah you're going to have to.

Characters are derived from real life, real people. The better you can draw real people, the better your character designs will be.

>do I really NEED to be able to render very photorealistically like that?
It's not even a great deal of photorealism going on here. Actually, it's just standard rendering.

>if I can correctyl place basic shadows and light sources, if my drawings have already stopped looking like a flat symbol drawing mess

IF you can do all of that, then your drawings should start looking a lot like these. This is just the natural progression of drawing/painting.

>> No.2868034
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2868034

>>2867861
I'm not at liberty to release any of his art, but here's one of his studies.

>> No.2868035

>>2868034
What kind of construction is he using for the face?

>> No.2868043

>>2868035
I'm not sure either. He likes to draw faces from a frontal view. and then extend the lines to the sides; to be used as a guides for other views such as these.

>> No.2868100

>>2867365
>>fascinated about him, i decide to see where this goes.
>>finally acknowledge him as my rival
>That rival of mine is pretty much my only source of excitement nowadays
>I've accepted the fact that the two of us are practically nobodies in the world of art.
>But I could at least serve as the boss he needs to defeat before he enters the world stage.

How romantic. Why don't you just marry him already

>> No.2868165

>>2867826
Hey I remember some of your stuff from the draw thread, the post 2016 heads in particular. They have a nice aesthetic to them and they're hard to judge since you can't really see the whole image in a progress collage. Anyway I like your work anon, keep grinding.

>> No.2868195

>>2865815
good gains

>> No.2868197

>>2868100

Because if they get married then the anime fantasy he's constructed is over.

>> No.2868200

>>2867924
>Why does it seem like this kind of ~realistic~ painting is the end goal of everyone here?
They all want to be MTG card artists

>> No.2868223

>>2868197
>>2868100
Unfortunately, I don't swing that way so that's a no. You're right though, I've long concluded that I have a case of autism for dramatizing everything i encounter.

>> No.2868225

>>2868223
>Unfortunately
What do you mean by that, anon?

>> No.2868232

>>2868225
>Unfortunately (for you guys)
But take it as you will.

>> No.2868312
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>> No.2868326

>>2865815
yes

>> No.2868334
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2868334

>>2868312
I know the paintover is still crap.
This was done yesterday

>> No.2868337

>>2868312
last one's better.

>> No.2868344
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2868344

>>2868337
clearly

>> No.2868366

>>2868008
this is so wrong it hurts.

>> No.2868368

How do you fags not improve in two/three years?

>> No.2868372

>>2868368
Only draw a few times per month.

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2868375

>>2868368
I'd wager that in those three years, most have only spent six months, less even, worth of actual drawing and studies.

>> No.2868409

>>2868368
>>2868372
>>2868375
post ur work

>> No.2868653

>>2866083
Im going to go out on a limb here and say

You are female.
You probably are not white.
And you are a liberal.

>> No.2868655

>>2867156
I love how niggers can't take criticism.

Ever.

>> No.2868664
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2868664

Stopped drawing for years and finally decided I want to try and improve casually. I have a fuckton more groundwork I need to set but I want to learn more.

>> No.2868878

>>2868653
1. Guy
2. Right
3. Eh, I say don't wasting energy disrespecting others I'm a Libtard, but when I tell someone to stop hoping others change into their image or I don't care when some game character shakes her ass unnecessarily I'm a bigot who doesn't get it's effects to the world so I don't really fit into typical labels.

1/3

>>2868655
>Doesn't know what criticism is
>Still slinging insults 2 sentences into a conversation before even stating a point.
I believed in you anon.

>> No.2868884

>>2868653
how the hell do you think a woman drew these

and his drawings are black as fuck

he probably is liberal tho

>> No.2868892
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2868892

I feel this is too little improvement for the time period but I'm getting better at least

>> No.2868893

>>2865815
Jesus learn to draw a mouth

>> No.2868895

>>2868884
>His drawings are black as fuck.
Kek

>> No.2868906

>>2868878
nice grammar, you ignorant and illiterate nigger.

Also, there's no room for your lame opinions on being offended at certain types of art, where if it were up to you, you'd have shit censored.

Seriously, people are fucking sick of you niggers. "RACISM REAL YO". Yeah, it is and it's your own fucking fault. People fucking hate you, not what shit smear shade you happen to be.

>> No.2868911
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2868911

I just draw for fun everday since 2011. Since second half of last year I make little extra money from art too.

>> No.2868926

>>2868906
>Triggered

>> No.2868934
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2868934

>>2868906
>>>/pol/

>> No.2868937

>>2868934
>Anyone that says things others find MEAN are automatically /pol/!

>> No.2868940

>>2868906
>nice grammar
>n
>Using unnecessary "and"
>Using larger words to appear intelligent when ignorant and illiterate can be synonymous.
Holy shit Stop

He cleary said he didn't support censorship meaning your reading comprehension is shit as well.

>> No.2868941

>>2868940
>sticking up for niggers.

Holy shit Stop

>> No.2868952

>>2868906
Woah calm down there

>> No.2868954

>>2868952
no. Don't you have some kind of image politics driven protest to attend?

>> No.2868958

>>2868954
Don't you have some art to practice? Maybe you'll even achieve 1/10th of the original anon's skill.

>> No.2868959

>>2868958
which anon? the nigger? Or the normal anon's?

Be specific please.

>> No.2868965
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2868965

left one is from today
and right is from a year ago

>> No.2868967
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2868967

>>2868965
fuck

>> No.2868973

>>2868959
Maybe you're too hung up on race to ever progress on anything else. Better blame the minorities for you never making it

>> No.2868988

>>2868165
I will keep on grinding, thanks for the kind words anon!

>> No.2868989

>>2868973
as you blame the whites for everything bad in the world.

Go jerk off to the rules of sharia law, you fucking pathetic globalist shit.

>> No.2868990

>>2868965
>>2868967
cool

>> No.2868999

>>2866480
As I was looking through it I could totally tell you're fucked in the head.

>> No.2869001

>>2868989
What the actual fuck are you talking about? I just said getting hung up on race is fucking stupid.

>> No.2869002

>>2867365
For fucks sake anon, it looks like you construct your heads out of literal cubes, heads are round anon! ROUND!

>> No.2869006

>>2869001
no, it isn't.

FUCK MUSLIMS, you fucking open borders supporting moron.

>> No.2869007

>>2864491
This is you op? I like it, I've seen it on /y/.

>> No.2869010

>>2869006
You seem to be really hung up on demonizing the opposite side. Do you need a safe space?

>> No.2869013

>>2869010
Says the faggot sjw who's peers came up with the term FOR THEMSELVES in colleges. Go draw some faggot, androgynous anime character to satiate your mental disorder and gender dysmorphia

>> No.2869014

>>2869013
Are you alright anon? Do you need anything? Anusol perhaps?

>> No.2869015

>>2869014
go back to your echo chamber of facebook and reddit. Fag enabling, migrant lover.

>> No.2869016

>>2869013
imagine being this much of a failure at life

lmao

>> No.2869017

>>2869013
>>2869015
Do you even draw?

>> No.2869018

>>2869016
imagine being this much of an indoctrinated cuck. Go watch a buzzfeed video and post about trump being hitler.

>>2869017
I do.

>> No.2869019

>>2869018
pyw

>> No.2869020

>>2869018
hes still at it lmfao

>> No.2869021

>>2869018
See, there's no winning with a request like this. If I post, no matter how great or poor my work is, it will be welcomed with ridicule. Regardless.

If I don't, it'll be "SEE!! SEE!!!", type behavior.
I've been around way to long to take this kind of obvious bait.

>> No.2869022

>>2869020
You're still faggot lmfao

>> No.2869024

>>2869021
hes so mad he cant even reply to the right post

>> No.2869025

>>2869007
Yeah, it's mine! Thanks anon, desu the only reason I'm trying to git gud at all is to draw better porn and make people jizz their pants

>> No.2869026

>>2869024
I can't keep up, it's snowing too hard in here.

>> No.2869027

>>2868911
work on your line quality

>> No.2869029

>>2869026
Yeah, it's impressive how big of a blizzard one guy can make.

>> No.2869034

>>2869018
Do you know what this board is for anon? I'll give you a hint, it's not for your ranting and raving about meaningless bullshit

>> No.2869041

>>2868911
Stop drawing anime.

>> No.2869047

>>2869034
Contrary to what you may think and how "progressive" you believe current users are, this is still 4chan.

Fuck off, nigger

>> No.2869049

>>2869047
You didn't answer my question anon.

>> No.2869054

>>2869049
I did. It means I don't give a fuck what board this is. It's still 4chan. Stupid fucking faggot. Please post about how hypocritical you are when it comes to feminism and muslim bitches wearing hijabs.

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2869058

>all this anime
No wonder you don't get better

>> No.2869082

>>2868999
th...thanks?

>> No.2869096
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2869096

I still haven't drawn anything in months. Please kill me

>> No.2869097

>>2869027
Yeah, I need to work on it badly.

>>2869041
I started to do background art quite recently too. But I enjoy a lot anime art, I try to do studies when I have time.

>> No.2869100

>>2869054
Again you're assuming shit that frankly I don't even understand. Thinking that "not worrying about race = dum libtard xD" is fucking stupid. I don't give a fuck what race anyone is. That's it. Go back to your containment board, hans.

>> No.2869101

>>2869097
Blog?

>> No.2869129

>>2869100
and go back to your echo chamber and protests that do nothing. Have fun when the board of education is removed.

Faggot.

>> No.2869133

>>2869101
http://jtsketch.tumblr.com/

>> No.2869136

>>2869129
;) Better cool down there Himmel, wouldn't want you to shit your pants over something inconsequential again.

>> No.2869145

>>2869136
Just make sure continuously let your peers know you hate "drumph" while trying to figure out which gender you decide to pretend to be tomorrow.

>> No.2869148

>>2869145

Ouch, when did this topic get so much edge?

I feel myself being red pilled and the truth being opened before my eyes. I just came here for drawings!!

>> No.2869223

>>2865367

Wrong, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Perspective is the CORE of everything.

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There's most stuff in between but it's in my sketchpads not in the comp. Kinda sad I stopped drawing for so long desu.


Well, back to grinding fundamentals

>> No.2869257

>>2869002
Which one you are referring to? My construction's based on loomis; all of them started off with the sliced sphere and all. As for the facial features, I do tend to draw heads with strong chins and jaws.

>> No.2869293

>>2869223
^this , perspective is in fact the thing that everything else is built on. even if you arent doing guidelines and measurements you are still creating perspective based on what you see un-intentionally and probably fucking it up.

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2017 is lookin good so far but ill wait a bit before I add examples

>> No.2869436

>>2869414
Hey quick question, how much money are you making off of your work?

>> No.2869440

>>2869436
Yeah, I also wonder how much a professional faggot makes.

>> No.2869451
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2869451

>>2869414
also I figured I should post every finished commission I did in 2016, hopefully will add on 60ish to this total for 2017. Its got a lot of spaces because I cut out all the alt versions of pics so it wouldn't look deceptively big.
>>2869436
~60k annually

>> No.2869455

>>2869451
I fucking despise your work, but I have some deep admiration for that commitment, is all your money from commissions or do you have a patreon or something like that.

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2869461

Drew the most recent picture today.

>> No.2869480

>>2869414
Going stronk!
Can I ask what you are planning to improve / worke more on in the future?

>> No.2869594

>>2869451
How into furry/stuff were/are you before you got established? Do you still like it alot?

>> No.2869598
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2869598

i came here like 1 month ago, i don't remember, and they telling i need to improve my draw so i try to make come accurate anathomy on my draws and i practice more with hands bc it really looked like shit, so this image show the my "improvement" and i need to know if ireally... "i gonna make it?"

>> No.2869600

>>2869598
same anonymous, sorry for my bad english and spelling and the quality of some images

>> No.2869611

>blaming anime for the reason you can't draw

No wonder you guys never improve.

>> No.2869612

>>2869611
>tfw you draw anime better than realistic
Is this what you call making it?

>> No.2869632
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2869632

I like draw this things....i dunno....why..

>> No.2869635

>>2869451
what's your FA handle?

>> No.2869656

>>2869632
Reminds me of how i used to draw back in middle school.Keep it up anon.

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2869665

>>2869006
ass clapped 2 fuk

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>>2868906

>> No.2869706
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2869706

Here's some dank shit from a dank life of art.

>> No.2869713

>>2864691
If you only draw the same easy shit that is in your comfort zone, you'll never improve.

>> No.2869741
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2869741

haven't done much this year, hoping to get back into it.

>>2869414
>>2869451
mixed feelings on your content, but I cant help but admire your dedication and consistent quality.

>> No.2869745

>>2869414
>professional faggot
kek'd
also deeply disturbed by that salarian vagina
not the quality, that's a good vagina, but

>> No.2869826

>>2869058
>he says while posting on an anime forum

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>> No.2869881

>>2869741
Your work looks really inconsistent. Some of it looks great, some of it looks like shit, regardless of the year.

>> No.2869883
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2869883

S C R E A M

>> No.2869901

>>2869858
Huh, so you've always liked giant girls

>> No.2869918

>>2869858
Why do you like giant girls so much?

>> No.2869925

>>2869858
hey it's you
I've admired you since I saw your artworks on /AASG/ keep it up senpai

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2869928

>>2868906
Yet the nigger is a better artist than you. But don't worry, your "superior white genes" are all that matters

>> No.2869934

>>2866668
Haha no, a lack of practice is not what's wrong with that picture.

>> No.2869951

>>2869901
>>2869918
Something about a cute small girl wrecking cities is super appealing to me, I don't know how to explain it.

>>2869925
I try my best...

>> No.2869962

>>2869951
How did you become so good?

>> No.2869976

>>2869928
Archer's a cute!

>> No.2869979

>>2869962
i wouldn't consider myself good, barely passable at best, but i grind a ton at home and work daily

>> No.2869983

>>2869979
Really? What do you consider good? Or who, too. I'm curious. I don't think I've ever heard of your inspirations or why you got started drawing.

>> No.2869988

>>2869983
RA, lack and nababa to name a few that I really look up to right now, but we're talking about what got me started, childhood inspirations from various Nintendo stuff like Pokemon etc, then proceeding to MMO stuff like Ragnarok Online but Takehito Harada of the Disgaea fame had the biggest impact on me

>> No.2869989

>>2868906
>>2868937
>>2868941
>>2868954

I know you think about killing yourself a lot


Stop being a pussy and just do it already

>> No.2869991

>>2869006
Scratch that, this guy is trolling

>> No.2869992

>>2868892

ok but can you post some studies or something that actually showcase skill or no

>> No.2869998

>>2869858
I don't draw anymore but back when I tried to you were always a big inspiration. Glad to see you're still around.

>> No.2870314

>>2869881
Yeah, I've always felt that way about it myself.

>> No.2870756

>>2869741
Nice stuff mate. I remember that jumping skates girl and weird sex mech

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