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Anonymous Wed Feb 15 15:23:51 2017 No.2862379 [Reply] [Original]

Can we post some layering cringe?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 15:24:07 2017 No.2862381 >>2862379 fuKC YOU

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 15:25:08 2017 No.2862384 >>2862379 I CANT BELIEVE YOU'D PUT ME ON BLAST LIKE THIS YOU CUNT

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 15:27:19 2017 No.2862388 File: 44 KB, 319x598, sJFETyV.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How about some layering porn too? Let's see some organized illustrations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 16:23:00 2017 No.2862450 File: 71 KB, 361x743, 1487193681.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2862379 i want to die

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 17:01:18 2017 No.2862482 >>2862384 >>2862379 who dat

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 17:08:17 2017 No.2862490 >>2862379 I'm bad about layers, myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 17:11:51 2017 No.2862494 >not drawing everything on one layer

VC Wed Feb 15 18:00:04 2017 No.2862571
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>>2862379

noobs :-)

This is from a file of one of my colleagues, after I already spent an hour sorting and renaming because I needed to adjust values.

It's not even the worst though. In another studio where I used to work, there was one kid who also had around 700 layers, but had also painted randomly on every layer, so that parts of a bush or tree were on 6 or more random layers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 18:28:51 2017 No.2862610 >>2862494 i'd say at least three layers is fine (one for sketch, one for underpainting, one for final painting)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 18:54:16 2017 No.2862639 File: 26 KB, 640x480, 1421513680622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2862571 What the fuck is that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 19:06:43 2017 No.2862665 Wow I thought /ic/ is all over the 1 layer only thing

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 19:06:54 2017 No.2862666 >>2862571 >those neon green trees I can tell it was shit, so it just makes this post even more painfull

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 19:36:10 2017 No.2862703 >>2862666 Nice trips, Ans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 20:18:14 2017 No.2862765 >>2862666 But it looks like a flash game. Neon trees can work.

>>	X Wed Feb 15 20:40:04 2017 No.2862803 File: 52 KB, 429x429, REEEEEAAHHHHH!!!!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2862571 i want fcking kill ma self after see this

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 20:58:17 2017 No.2862840 File: 66 KB, 665x662, 1481506760770.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Don't use layers >Lots of motivation to paint >But the edges look like shit >Use layers >Get clean pure edges >Low mental RAM from managing so many layers

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 15 21:24:00 2017 No.2862870 >>2862840 use lasso for clean edges kiddo

Anonymous Thu Feb 16 19:39:52 2017 No.2864179
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I mostly paint on 3-4 layers at most but I have been experimenting with the hundreds-of-layers thing lately.

Lee Evan is an example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBUt9tHBw_k

You see, in order to control your edges you usually need to use the lasso tool, clipping mask, lock pixels, blend if, pen tool, alpha channels, etc.

But I always found these option too obnoxious to get lost in the flow.

So this technique is just making a new layer, airbrush and painting without a care, then define the edges with a hard eraser. Then make a new layer and repeat.

This means that the eraser becomes the main painting tool. It's way easier to manage hundreds of edges this way in my opinion, instead of switching to the lasso tool or masks. It's more intuitive.

Of course, the side effect is that you fill up with hundreds of layers very quickly. I'm not sure if I should migrate fully to this technique...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 16 22:26:52 2017 No.2864326 >>2864179 FVUCK THAT SKIN RENDERING

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 16 22:53:56 2017 No.2864353 >>2862571 jesus Then again my files would probably look like that if I didn't tend to merge down. I constantly make new layers but I don't keep them.

Anonymous Thu Feb 16 23:03:32 2017 No.2864371

>>2864179
>all that constant new layer making
>but those smooth ass transitions and tight edges
The final product is slick as hell, but the usage of layers is mainly for the sharp edges of an eraser and precaution for preserving the underpainting(s), right? He doesn't seem to be going back to older layers and refining, but just new layers and refining.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 16 23:13:54 2017 No.2864390 >>2862610 Eh... depends on the complexity. For a comic page I have 8 Layers most of the time. For an artwork 3-5 should be enough.

Anonymous Thu Feb 16 23:16:48 2017 No.2864395

>>2864371
>the usage of layers is mainly for the sharp edges of an eraser and precaution for preserving the underpainting(s), right?

Yep. Eventually he just merges them all.

It seems like he just makes a new layers and paints over something instead of choosing the layers and adjusting it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 17 11:12:53 2017 No.2864941 >>2864326 It's kinda shit and milky though also anatomy is a mess

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 17 13:50:13 2017 No.2865119 File: 124 KB, 283x280, Spongebob_My_Eyes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2862571

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 17 20:51:27 2017 No.2865685 >>2862379 If that's cringe, then I recommend you never start doing 3D-texturing

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 17 20:59:40 2017 No.2865693 File: 102 KB, 746x500, 1479844897019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2862571 Dude do you have the finished product of this

Anonymous Fri Feb 17 23:26:53 2017 No.2865833

>>2862388
WAIT THERE ARE FOLDERS FOR LAYERS?!

This is going to change my life!!! How do I do this in photoshop?! Even if you don't tell me I am going to google it .

Just today I was working on a UI design and was like. Fuck I wish I could folder all the icon layers into one.

>>	GhostLogic Fri Feb 17 23:38:15 2017 No.2865849 >>2862379 > nothing wrong with layers if your pc can handle it. I remember talking to a very top environment artist and said the basicly in order survivie is layer managment in this industry. he repeated it over 9x times im sure he meant it.

Anonymous Sun Feb 19 10:03:42 2017 No.2867530

I literally used to paint on a thousand layers when I started out until my friends forced me to narrow it down to four max. Improved my painting and confidence with painting, but I still use quite a few layers for sketching → linework. Get friends who will threaten not to redline for you it you use a million layers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:05:54 2017 No.2870119 >>2865849 because nothing says layer management like 42+ unlabeled layers with no folders?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:43:38 2017 No.2870155 >>2870119 if you're used to it and can navigate them then it's fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:45:02 2017 No.2870158 >>2870155 It's not fine if you need to pass the file on to other people. Layer management isn't that difficult, and it can make making changes way easier.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:53:44 2017 No.2870166

>>2864179
>I'm not sure if I should migrate fully to this technique

Think of each technique as a tool. Doing everything in one technique is just a way of know if it's viable. Painting is almost always a combination of viable tech, strategies, and processes.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:05:11 2017 No.2870183

>>2870158
usually you're the one making the changes so if you're used to it it's still not a problem, i see full fledged pros with a complete mess of layers that navigate that shit with no problems.
And usually the only thing they pass to other people is the finished product, but if you have to usually you'll get directions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 20:30:23 2017 No.2873227 >>2865833 Group Layers, nigga.

>>	GalNone321 Thu Feb 23 20:37:38 2017 No.2873234 >>2862379 Layers are for the weak.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 23 20:38:16 2017 No.2873235 File: 289 KB, 1280x768, Layer Porn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can you be in control of your life if you aren't in control of your layers?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 21:16:41 2017 No.2874467 >>2862840 >mental RAM i love that, mind if i steal it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 24 22:07:37 2017 No.2874529 >>2862381 go back to tumblr

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 25 05:36:33 2017 No.2874874 File: 934 KB, 778x649, wam.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2874467

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