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>beginner posts
>Obvious first timer on trying to git gud
>explain and try to correct him
>"Thanks anon!"
>repeat for a few times
>Some time later
>Curious about how much he/she/it has progressed
>reverse search his pics from archives
>find his/her blog
>he stopped little after you made those critiques to him/her
>Likely she/he just lost interest
This fills me of despair
Please tell me this isn't common
And don't fucking dare even thinking of doing it, ever.

>> No.2817450

>>2817433
well beginners shouldn't really be giving beginners advice m8

>> No.2817460

Better than if he surpassed you lmao

>> No.2817461

>>2817433
Probably because he/she realized drawing is not worth the effort.

>> No.2817668
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2817668

>>2817433
>try to correct him
Did you just assume their gender?!

>he/she/it
So you learned your lesson. Good to see, good to see.

>his/her blog
>she/he just lost interest
Genderbinary cathegories much, shitlord? And after you were doing so well, too!

>> No.2817687

I want people to critique me so please keep doing it brah

>> No.2817735

>>2817433
maybe theyre working hard on improving DESU

>> No.2817748

>>2817433
Maybe they just weren't that interested once they saw it takes work. Don't get discouraged, honest critique is good

>> No.2817749

>>2817748
Is there anything in the world that takes more work than drawing?

>> No.2817782

>>2817749
Not sure, I think it depends on your type of intelligence.

>> No.2817864

>>2817749
Proko said it takes about a good 5 years to get good at anatomy, I doubt there's anything that takes that long to train.

>> No.2817869

>>2817749
>>2817864
oh except sports because most fighters and soccer players have been doing it all their lives for example

>> No.2817883

>>2817433
For every person that makes it, there are thousands of beginners that give up, it's common sense.

s m h

>> No.2817900

>>2817883
But will you?

>> No.2817902

>>2817869
That's true, but most artists have been drawing since they were kids too. There's a point when it stops being a hobbie and it becomes a professional skill. It happens with sports a lot.

>> No.2818006

>>2817864
proko doesn't count

>> No.2818892

>>2817749
Try being a doctor.

>> No.2818897

>reverse search his pics from archives
>find his/her blog
youre fucking creepy to give enough shit to do that

>> No.2818899

>>2818897
An art blog you fucking idiot.
What kind of pics do you think are being searched?, selfies?

>> No.2818905

>>2818899
>sitting around reverse image searching ANONS work from 4CHAN
do i need to explain further

>> No.2818908

>>2817433
Just less competition.
Don't worry about it.

>> No.2818965

>>2817433
beginner here
I just stopped asking for critique
Most of it is the repetive shit you can say about any drawing without even looking at it and to anyone from the worst pleb to the highest masters
Just spending my days alone in my dark corner trying to get better until I wont get ripped apart
books tutorials and practice
also Thanks anon!

>> No.2818990

>>2817749
I'm quite smart. I passed my high school final exams with almost max scores studying just the day before. Yet art is really something beyond me.
In school or uni you just open your shitty book, study it or do some exercises and it's done. When I was playing the guitar and the piano I just practiced on the same song again and again until I was getting better. Sports are 99% matter of continuos training.
But art, art feels so confusing, I don't know where to start, it requires concentration, autistic amount of grinding and you are not guided as much as when you were in school.
This is pasta potential, right?

>> No.2819889

>>2817433
no

>> No.2820595

>>2818990
Couldn't agree more OP.

Cancelled my schoolism membership, sold my tablet, and threw away all of my sketchbooks.

Such a waste of time. And for what? It's completely unnecessary and serves no purpose.
Art is not needed, especially in today's society where the intellect, personality, and face reigns supreme.

To be honest, the "artistic lifestyle" seems almost like a childish endeavour at this point, and I don't mean any disrespect, but it seems like the most serious artists (asides from guys who are legit conceptartists/illustrators/porn artists but they represent a very low % of dedicated lifters) are also the people with nothing else going on in their lives.
I know this was true with me, I was biggest and most serious about drawing when I was still in uni, working only 15 hours a week, and pretty much just plucking around all the time, going out, with no real life.
To all you kids out there who are getting sucked into the comerical art , try to stop yourself.
So long as you have and maintain decent facial aesthetics, you'll be fine.
Art just not worth it.

Cheers.

>> No.2820620

>>2817668
>give personkin advice on gender
>some time later, decide to check on xirkin progress
>xherkin stopped posting soon atfer xy advice
Tell me this isn't common among ciskin?!

>> No.2820626

>>2817749
>>2818892
Jeff Watts was talking about how one of his students was a neurosurgeon, and that guy told him that learning how to draw was the hardest thing he's ever done, and that he eventually had to give up art because he couldn't pursue both at once.

>> No.2820658

>>2817433

This place is lethal to anybody who is just starting out. I'm 25 been drawing/digital working all my life. I just found out about /ic like a year ago.

Had I come on here when I was in my teens I wouldn't be where I am today.

>> No.2820718

>>2820658
Y-you mean you'd be g-gudder, right, anon?

...anon?

>> No.2820950

>>2820658
why's that? should i leave now while i still have the chance?

>> No.2820989

>>2820658
Bullshit. I've been drawing all my life, but didn't seriously start studying until last march because of a stupid reason (inspired by a movie). Went to /ic/ and lurked. Bought a stack of books a foot high. Got two tablets and a sketchbook and started drawing every minute of every day, and when I couldn't, I read the books. And it worked, I got better in 1 year than the previous 22 put together. If you aren't willing to put in the work you don't deserve to get the results. /ic/ only respects the very best because people that are worthy of that respect have put in countless hours perfecting their craft. Not everyone has that motivation and if they can't hack it, so be it. I hate hearing from people who complain that they aren't good enough yet refuse to dedicate the necessary time and effort to become skilled.

>> No.2821034

>>2820989
show me how good you are. I want to see a before and after.

Because I'm where you were before you started gittin gud, and I'm severely lacking motivation; it feels like it's too late for me.

>> No.2821042

>>2817749
Social interaction

>> No.2821050

peole never reply to my art on this board, never. i dont get advice or critisism. is the "im jealous of you so i gonna ignore you" a real thing?

>> No.2821055

>>2820626

I know nobody is ever gonna believe this shit but I am close to graduating with an MD. AND HOLY SHIT, It is hard to draw decently, Whenever you get close to someone you aspire the threshold keeps going up.

I can safely assume that in a few years I will feel comfortable with most medical situations of the primary care kind... But art, Jesus, I'd be lucky if I got the hang of it before 60.

>> No.2821058

>>2820989
what movie did you watch anon

>> No.2821081
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>>2821034
left is tonight from memory, right is february 2016 from a reference.

>> No.2821192

>>2821081
>a ninja turtle with microcephaly simultaneously dislocates all arm joints while reading a fiscal bill.jpg

>> No.2821223

>>2821192
kek

>> No.2821284

People just lose interest. Sometimes because they prefer something else, sometimes because they're just lazy fucks.

>> No.2821314

>>2817433
most of art beginners that aren't little kids will lose interest. mainly because getting better requires commitment and effort, and people are lazy.
that's another reason why giving specific advice to beginners is a dumb thing to do.
see a beginner? tell them to learn loomis and that's it. if they are smart and can commit to art, they'll listen. if they are dunner krugers without a future, they won't. simple as that.

>> No.2821316

>>2821314
Loomis is pretty shit for people who aren't into that kind of thing. Even Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain is better.

>> No.2821369

>>2821314

Give them a damn critique, but don't tell them how to fix it, let them figure it out on their own.

>> No.2822293

>>2821050
Likely is not terrible enough to look at it and say
"CHEESES M8"
Or good enough to get compliments

>> No.2822299

>>2821316
Loomis: Successful Drawing is perfectly fine for an adult (18+) beginner. It teaches all the fundamentals somebody needs to start with art.
>>2821369
waste of time.

>> No.2822325

>>2820658
What are you talking about? As a beginner, this place is great, it has many resources and a critical eye to tell you when your shit sucks. It's even sort of nice to newfags who post out of the /beg/ threads, compared to some other places I've been. I've learned more here in a month than I thought was possible. I learned drawing is an immense task, but that makes it all the more sweet when you succeed.

Of course, I practice two hours a day and mainly lurk. But /ic/ is pretty great. It may look harsh because 90% of posts are criticism, but we all want each other to make it.

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>>2817433
I've never taken art classes. I drew this from imagination. how can I get better? can I have some tips and tricks regarding poses? Also pls no books. I can't read for shit. give me something I can actually do, thanks.

>> No.2822387

>>2820595
Why does this meme still exist

>> No.2822438

>>2822334
>spoon feed me please
GTFO

>> No.2822753

>>2820595
Cheers.

>> No.2822881

But fucking drawabox squares aren't really worth of posting on a blog, especially since there's a pile of hundreds of them.

>> No.2823719

>>2817749
Architecture

>> No.2823831

>>2817433
more than likely he just stopped posting his work cause he became self-aware or got better at self-critiquing his own work.

being able to self-critique is such a huge bonus for any artist, you save so much time and you learn a lot more when you do seek out critique because it won't be basic level stuff anyone with a pair of eyes should be able to see.

>> No.2826239

>>2817749
losing your virginity, now get back to drawing
>>2823719
close
>>2823831
or maybe he got killed by a nigger if there where no updates at all