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>>2812428anatomy and edges are pretty triggering, it looks like you fucked them up on purpose
>>2812436I'm experimenting with very soft edges; its alot of fun. With triggering anatomy do you refer to the broad shoulders, high ears and wierd neck? Could you elaborate.
>>2812436fuck u i do what i want
>>2812573>>2812446if you don't see what's wrong with the anatomy you should go back to /beg/.just look at that arm, what a mess.
Reworking some designs.
Reworking some designs. (Posted this earlier in the alternative art thread but that thread turned into a shit show)
>>2812600And here some expressions I was doing for the cat.
>>2812600>>2812603Very cute. Only thing that sticks out to me is the size of the feet on the middle and right characters. Seems off to have hand and feet the same size but maybe I'm just not enough of a furry. The collars in the second image look kinky. Intentional?
>>2812607it's quite nice, but your fundies are weaak man. look at >>2812600, how good his fundies are, and try to think how good it would look that way.rendering is not that good either, just look at the sword texture (is it supposed to be plastic?) and the blurry hands (I know it's supposed to be fur, but it's not working and essentially looks rushed)keep it up man! it's a crit to help.
>>2812573This is not me btw,>>2812591I'm aware that the anatomy is abnormal. Just wondered what specifically bothered you. My intention was that the lower arm is foreshortened with an angle towards the viewer. I admit its badly done, because it doesn't get the point across. Other than that I didn't really go for pristine anatomy. Thanks for the feedback though, it helps. Hope I don't trigger you to much anon.
How do I make this less shit?
>>2812631>Hope I don't trigger you to much anon.it's kind of a joke, I'm not raging behind my keyboard. besides I really took a raping not so long ago, so now I don't care so much about anons.>Just wondered what specifically bothered you.bad anatomy bothers me, so everything>My intention was that the lower arm is foreshortened with an angle towards the viewer. I get it, but it would be easier to draw and read better if you changed the position. but if you want to go with it anyway, you really have to draw a cylinder cut in squares and pay attention to proportionate measurements.
>>2812603These are really nice designs, particularly your full character ones are spot on. The thing I notice that could be improved was the construction of the faces in side views. They are a bit weak imo when they are not frontal views. Like the one on the bottom left. But all in all these are really great designs.
>>2812649>I really took a raping not so long agoHope you weren't to brutalized during it.Yeah, your right about the approach though, Sloppiness on my part.
>>2812631I think >>2812436 meant the tangents your edges make. The red lines point out the major tangents in your drawing. The rose and coat are aligned together, tangents bushes objects back in space making the rose part of the cape and not in front of the cape. Other than that, I found the shape of the horns unappealing with unclear forms, are they pointing forwards or backwards?
>>2812638You're not being specific on what you want help with. Don't outsource your work to other anons.
>>2812661>weren't to brutalized>Yeah, your rightman, you really try hard to trigger people>>2812664pretty good edit, rose and hand are fantastic
>>2812666I thought that being vague would help anons find some problems with the piece that I might be missing. Forgive me.I know my perspective needs work, along with my lines...
>>2812664oh, he ment tangents. I see. Your paintover is really appealing with the removal of tangents and the symentrical horns with normal anatomy. Eitherway, the horns where ment to go slightly forwards but at the root they go backwards. Thanks alot man, I appreciate the constructive critizism.
First of the year for me and first thing I've drawn in a long time. This was supposed to be a quick sketch but I accidentally took it a bit further. I shouldn't have as the pose, design and anatomy is all fucked up and the composition is boring. Well at least I learned somethings. If anyone has any quick improvements I could make I'm all ears.
There is so much I don't like about this but It felt good to paint again. Its been to long.
>>2813039I do like the dominant greens. The colors are pretty good
>>2813039What kind of lighting was this?
>>2813046unfortunately the emerald green i was using is a lower quality paint. Since I think this color scheme worked well I'm going to invest in a mid grade emerald green next.
>>2813048one of those painter's lightbulbs that imitates natural light. I diverged with the colors in the paint i used it didnt actually look like that.
First thing i ever really painted, i wanted to start with some simple volumes.Should i fuck off back to the beginner thread?
>>2813087No, while fundamentals are important, drawing from imagination is even more important.
>>2813088What the hell is that meant to mean?You're not gonna be able to draw well from imagination without fundies and drawing from imagination is a good way to practice fundies.
What am I doing wrong?
>>2813182not much of anything it's rather nice, but you made the lips big, which is fine, but her actual mouth, like the opening, is placed too low.i morphed this with my mouse so excuse it being kinda sloppy but this would look a little more natural. there's a thousand solutions to this problem.
>>2813182This is good but I can see what the main problem is right away: you're skipping to the color part too early. You nailed the drawing for the face and that looks great (little lopsided desu, try flipping it and doing some construction lines on a transparent layer), but you rushe the drawing on some parts like her hands (hiding it in the hair isn't working) and her dress below her boobs. This technique where you get the lines right and then paint underneath them only works if you really put in the time on the lines first, otherwise it's starts looking blobby and you can't figure out how to proceed, which I think is what you're running up against here.Like it tho
>>2812742Best crit I can think of is to mass your shadows. You don't want blotchy shadow blobs all over the place; all your shadows should merge into a few big shadow shapes, and try to control your composition with those. You're painting your lights arbitrarily right now, with no clear decision on where the light source is. You REALLY need some harder cast-shadows, too - all of your shadows have blurry edges right now, which makes the whole piece feel mushy and vague.
i feel like improving, so i decided to give this board a shotso, /ic/, how do i make this less shit?
>>2813245by using the beginner thread
>>2813245by dropping tumblr
>>2813245beginner thread, check the links in the sticky. Put in the work, draw every day and stay disciplined.
Spoopy skull dude update
>>2813264No thanks, i do NOT want a handjob.
>>2813264 Absolutely fantastic. >>2813269lmoa
>>2813264 Good shit overall (as usual). Fun design, great lines, and my god that pink reflected light. M'm m'm. Mind the planted leg: both the foot and ankle appear a bit larger/thicker than their opposite despite being further away from the viewer-the calf also appears marginally shorter. The colors and brushwork are top notch though perhaps a bit utilitarian in some areas. Consider filling in the rest of that shadow shape where her heel overlaps the contour of her shin and blending out or otherwise reworking some of those errant brush strokes by her gooch. While there is similar 'spackling' elsewhere in the piece those particular strokes kind of stick out as looking more like an afterthought than some of the others. Anyway, I'm going to go think long and hard about this beautifully realized piece of art while I proceed to choke the shit out of myself so; until next time.
Drawing something like this is tougher than I thought. I should probably get some references.
>>2813316This seems pretty consistent to me. Love it! Got a blog?
>>2813279Def right about the leg and the coloring consistency, something I gotta work on. I think I'm going to try and do one of these a day for the rest of the year, since all I've been doing lately is black & white.thanks breh, no choke tho
>>2813316Dang anon that looks really nice, good design. I especially like the brush strokes you have that transition the shadows.
Did this for a client and still don't know what the hell its about.Can someone yell at me and tell me what I did wrong? I'm trying to learn how to render cause I mostly do lineart. I had to keep it at a 4 hour time limit though.
>>2813341I like how you drew the hands, however, they look a bit small>>2813267It looks like you're focusing on details/texture and not on the forms and values
Trying to figure out my composition. Any critique appreciated.http://imgur.com/a/3kh0I The previous version.
>>2813478Neat brush strokes, what are your settings? Is that the smudge tool?
>>2813446>no choke thoYou can't tell me what to do. You did this to me!
>>2813517I feel like the kid isn't focused on the big red figure while the big fuzzy guy is. Also the two of them seem uncomfortably close to the red one, but act as though they're observing it from afar. Maybe the kid should seem more alert?
>>2812860It hurts to look at once it's open, but that thumbnail is noice.
>>2813517 I kinda want to see where they are going, I'm not sure who is the main focus in this?Like do we want the kids point of view of the story or the bear's, like who is the lead in this shot?Sorry for shitty scribble i'm still pretty new to composition.
>>2813565The furry creature and the child are supposed to be following the figure, thanks for the sketch!
>>2813537 It is pretty rough. Thanks for the crit.
>>2813577Yeah that is the story, but who would you like as the focus?
>>2813579Probably the red creature followed by the child and its companion.
>>2813580You could make him a bit bigger or lower the kid and the furry thing to a lower plane so the the red guy is more in focus.
>>2813524thanks! and yea it's a smudge brush in mypaint... all my settings are the default
just starting this one from last night
i want her to have short hair but i'm finding it hard to not make her look too boyish
>>2813721So what if she looks boyish?
Here a drawing from some months agoIf someone wants to give it a constructive critique,feel free to reply to this.
>>2813721it looks better without the whites of the eyes. stick closer to the style you were doing in the sketches. And if you want to make a boyish design more feminine add more eye make-up. reverse is true for a girly design being more masculine.
>>2813736I disagree, you've made her look blazed
>>2813316this is shit.
>>2813316why would you draw a black line right across the middle of the your portrayed character?completely ruins it.
>>2812591Not human... redline human skeleton. Obviously some parts were exaggerated... Art is not meant to precise dumbfuck.
>>2813752oh my, we have a winner here
>>2812410coworker did it with just a ballpoint pen (yes even the sort-of-shading)what do you think about it?he makes some pretty awesome fantasy related stuff too
>>2813773it's decent but it's symbol drawing without much fundamentals, which only bring you so far
>>2813773waste of ink
sry for polluting the thread but /beg/ didnt have an answer for mei'm looking for something inbetween how to draw and perspective made easy, any suggestions?
>>2813744>>2813745God damn it /ic/. You're the real garbage here and you're ruining this whole place.
>>2813804Can't you tell it's one tryhard faggot looking for attention? And you just gave it to him, congratulations.
>>2813804Frustrated people,who can't even draw a stick house,let them be,no ones gives a fuck about themMaybe they're 15-16 years old kiddos who want to draw attention.
>>2813809>>2813816yeah duh, if nothing says anything about it it means silent agreement.you either have to altruistically punish this kind of behaviour (reminding that they're losers is a good start) and/or counter-balance the shit they're sayingbecause even knowing that, it's not going to motivate much good people to just get abused on /ic/.
>>2813779that's a bit harsh>>2813777I understand what you mean, I just thought it was impressive, with regards to doing it with just a ballpoint pen
Think I'm about done, does anything look off?
>>2813836Vary your hues more, also why are his irises carved into his his eyeballs?The eyelids are also incredibly thick and sharp, vary your edges more.There's some really weird proportions and asymmetry especially in the eyesI wouldn't bother fixing it thtough just take these points on board and start a new one
>>2813839>Vary your hues more, also why are his irises carved into his his eyeballs?Because it was done as a statue.Thanks for the eyelids, I didn't notice that.
>>2813826when I was young, I got a drawing made in ballpoint pen by a pro comic artist.it was in another entire level. it was by david finch.seeing how fast he got the thing down, and without any helping lines of construction was incredible.at the same time I now know that it's bad to see that when you're young and impressionable, because it seems magical (since there's no construction!) while it's mostly muscle memory. well, so it goes.
>>2812410What would you correct? I did this like...1 year i think,a simple sketch,i would like to read someone's thoughts.
>>2813836Looks like a good learning exercise, See if you can apply what you learned to something more realistic. Try a photo study in a similar angle with similar lighting. subtlety is the hardest part about portraiture.
>>2812591Hahaha this red line is so stupid. You couldn't articulate what to correct with words or your sloppy red line.
Drawing some characters, trying to make a badass doberman gangster dude.
>>2813864what is it with all these retards lately?
maybe i should post this here
>>2813816i'm 31 and I can sure as hell draw more than stick people.did u catch them all?
>>2813930all your stuff is stiff, boring, same face, no line weight and forced into some generic environment in generic poses. Fucking break away from your shitty comfort zone. You stuff is fucking boring.
>>2813880>drawing fur fag fetish art>bad adsPick one. Yiff in hell fag.
Just about one with this guy, thoughts, critiques?
>>2814152great brush work overall nice tones. But in terms of reference, inspiration, it's lacking.give up.
>>2814161Haha I agree but it's a commission piece. It's gonna be used for some guys indie movie poster
>>2814178i'd be pissed if this is what i'm paying for.
>>2814179why is that?
>>2814179Implying indie bands pay for anything
>>2814181it's a chalky mess. nothing special. like some cheesy found footage movie. I don't know, I wouldn't pay for this and i'd find another (better) artist
>>2814188>a dumb one
>>2814190ok u rite
What do you guys think of this?
>>2814161at this point i am not sure whether people on /ic/ are baiting or being serious anymorefull circle
>>2814231Just go study topology with 3d. you're wasting your time imitating it in 2d.
What do you do when you don't feel like drawing?There is so much I can learn and improve on, but I don't have it in me to grab my sketchbook or get the tablet out. How can I gain some guidance and motivation?
>>2813189>>2813223Yeah. I got pretty lazy there. Need to develop that patience for linework or just paint over it.
>>2814231Photoshop isn't quad draw, my man. You might be having trouble because you want everything to be exactly correct. loosen up a little.Organic forms have sharp and soft edges
>>2814197reminds me of the goldfish off american dad
>>2813846Do you think it's possible for a newb to catch up on that muscle memory?Or surpassing it by learning proper construction/perspective etc?I get inspired by people that can draw well but also get discouraged. "I'll never be this good anyway, why bother" and I only draw for fun, not for "making it".I *know* I shouldn't care about other people's skill but I find it hard not to do thatMaybe I'm just a jealous piece of shit
Did this one the other day, what do you think?
>>2814405I really started drawing at 25, so I say yes.you have much more maturity and intelligence to get things down intellectually much more quickly.The problem is that most artists never theorize anything, so they can't teach anything besides "just watch me do and do the same"So you're much better off learning stuff that does have some good learning material, i.e. perspective, anatomy and color theory. Actual rendering stuff and specificities, you need muscle memory, but better analytic abilities help.
>>2814501Her expression is super derpy, especially with that exaggerated underbite. That may be deliberate on your part though, I dunno
>>2813316update and thanks for the kind words>>2813751I don't agree but it doesn't matter either way because this is what's in the briefing. This piece is a private commission.
It's only a study so I'm not going to finish rendering and detailing it but any critique anyway ?
trying to pay more attention to edges and values
>>2814644pretty awesome. looks like art for a 90ies sci-fi game or something.
>>2813930You always get the same critique. I mean always. Your shit is way too stiff and fucking apply some line weight, as people have told you 6 gorillion times so far.
>>2814706I'll get rid of lines later anyway, so I dont need lineweight in this piece, but I try to add lineweight in other pics
>>2814741Feels like that the eyes are just a bit too high on the head.
>>2814807>I'm just gonna try moving things around until it looks good/ic/ in a nutshell
>>2814807Ok first of all i'm new to these edits so its far from perfect, but was thinking of bringing the face down just a bit, there is some room you can use on the mouth chin area.
doin some aliems
Are in a huge artists block (because of sickness making me tired) and are forcing myself to draw whatever.Here's all I've managed to pull out of my ass this week. Critique is always welcome, but I've been lazy with both of them.
>>2814981Good stuff, familia.
>>2812591i had seen my share of bad critiques here, but that redline is really, really horrible.
>>281423075% baiting 25% actually are mad and want to hurt people.
>transitioning from pencil to digitalWow this shit is frustrating.How do I finish anything? Do you guys know anyone with a systematic procedure I could adapt? Thanks.
>>2815062sorry, I'd swear I resized it properly...
Having fun with anatomy and perspective.Only a relatively quick drawing ~1 hour, but I can feel how I'm getting better. Even if there are some notable flaws (especially arms and legs).Anyone have any opinions on things I could have done differently or should practice more at?
>>2814184Not that anon but post your work fuckface
>>2815159>>2815159eat shit, faggot. Regardless of what I post doesn't make what I said any less true. Fuck off
>>2815172you're one that really should disappear, scum.
>>2814152I'd give it some more contrasts and harder shadows - especially around and in the eyes - to make it "pop". As it is it's very flat and a bit boring.
>>2815189Keep on neck bearding, you insufferable autist
>>2815194don't bother. that anon won't listen and his client is going to get a shit product because the client doesn't know any better.
>>2815200Eeh. He wrote >It's gonna be used for some guys indie movie posterSo it's probably for his high school friends $10 paranormal activity remake. So who gives a shit. Everyone needs to be shitty at some point if they ever want to get good.
>>2815116>>2815062>>2815049these are all shit. And I even doubt that you were consciously aware during you're progress.
>>2815211Conciously aware of its shittyness? Definitely, but I'm just pushing myself to create right now.>>2815153arso thank u
How is it going si far?
>>2815266Boring layout, monotonous
>>2815266I think it looks fine
>>2812638think.Would that be a pose that a photographer would ask a model to make, and then put it in as a magazine cover?No?Why?, ask yourself before completing a piece. If you still have prblems trying to crack down why, then I'll tell you:It's boring. There is no dynamism (aka motion), the guy is just kind of there looking bored. then there is some dynamic perspective but seems like if the piece just gave up half-way into applying it.It doesn't help that the line art is flat too, there is no shading at all.
>>2815276Not supposed to be really dynamic though. What would you propose to make it better?
>>2815299maek it les boring
>>2815302Okay.Here are some lifedrawing.
>>2815316perfect.remember, when in doubt = porn!
>>2815299Not who you replied to, but here are some OPINIONSFirst: Flip square 4 and 5 horizontally. Think about how someone would read the pages (left > right), so now it looks as if the dudes are going back and not forwards. It feels wonky.Second: I would want you to go more extreme in some way. Either have a more rugged landscape (especially for the close ups). Or by doing the exact opposite and clean the image up like in the edit. Shouldn't the mountain have snow on it either way?
>>2815350>anotha dumb one
>>2815353damn u RITE
>>2815049love genji, hate the dragon.
>>2815350I like it, but the lack of defining lines makes it very difficult to distinguish certain shapes. Especially the stretched out arm is just a mess.
Ukraine Riots of 2014 based on a photo
>>2815345Neato. Thank you anon. The way you ordered the squares is way better. You're probably right about the snow aswell, but I just wanted to make something rocky. I should probably cut down the hatching, or even work with more voids like you suggest.
>>2815370Would be nice if I could read it more clearly
>>2815359i kinda am.>MUH STYLE
>>2815392Check out this page from Tintin in Tibet.Here Hergé created a very rugged and rocky landscape that still is clean and somewhat minimalistic, with lots of snow.
did more to the background on this. it was too chromatic and the values were too in the middle across the whole background. Idk if someone gave me that crit already, but i changed it so hey. I think compositionally the objects are too low on the canvas and too small. How they are arranged is fine but I should've condensed the still life and made it bigger on the canvas.
>>2815449That bread looks tasty, yo.But you've got a outline around the table/stuff and background. Is that intentional? Because it ruins some of the depth.
>>2815456thats just me not wanting to ruin the edges of what I already have so I didn't brush too close to the objects and table. I always do the background last which is probably a bad idea.
>>2815464>probably a bad ideaProbably, yeah.And the more I look at your piece, the more I find the right side lacking in content. The left side has the table's edge and the cloth all wrinkled up. But the right side just has this flat and boring area right above the signature.I'd add something there if I were you.
>>2815470>I'd add something there if I were you.even if it were just texture? i can't really add more objects. i might try to recreate the texture in the top right down there...
>>2815477Anything would be better than nothing. But you sure that you can't add another apple or more wrinkles? Heck, I'd add something more out of place. Like the front of a dead pig with an apple in its mouth. But that's just me.
>>2815083Did you draw golem as a tranny?
>>2815512give it a sock and set it free
>>2815483how about this
>>2815518that background is a catastrophe. that aqua marine blue on the edges is fucking disgusting.
>>2815548You could say the same shit about starry night.But you wont. Because like everyone on this board as long as the artist is dead it's "good".
>>2815578as a general rule i don't take crits of things I disagree with. If I see something wrong with a painting, and nobody points it out, I don't change it cause it's probably fine. If I see something wrong and someone like >>2815470corroborates my opinion I'll try to change it.
Wondering what you guys think about this pose. I just flipped horizontally and I thought she looked kindof off balance, like the whole image is tilted to the side and her footing looks off, I don't know. Also any advice on her anatomy in general?
>>2815518Brian, the background looks ok but it could be better, slightly less textured. The big problem is the edge between the items on the table and the background, that is super jarring.
>>2815596how did u know it was me?
>>2815583AYE BEEN WORKIN' IN DA FLEA MARKET SO EARLYBEEN WORKIN' 'ERE SINCE MY MAMA WAS A BABY
>>2815596i agree with you but i don't think my values are good enough to connect the background to the objects... especially the bread and parts of the jug. They are so light that I think if I connect them the edges will be completely lost in the background unless I basically use white to connect them... ill see what I can do and post the results but im worried about making a mess...
>>2815370looks ok as a thumbnail, looks like shit up close. That hatching is blah. Otherwise there's not really a lot going on that's worth critiquing.>>2813930Yeah, gotta say, these designs are like bottom of barrel storage house level boring. You could literally do anything and they'd look better. At the very least give them realistic and cool looking wings. Study some bat wings and make that shit huge and bat-like. I don't know just scour the internet for pictures of people wearing things, or weird artefacts or ethnic costumes and try to take elements of them to fit the particular vibe you want. Just please never do the slutty demon lady thing ever again it's so infinitely overdone I can't possibly stress enough how cringy it is seeing this shit here.
>>2815599I took a gander because it looks exactly like the style from an older draw thread where everyone was calling you Brian. Now I have become one of those people.
>>2815596i tried to make the background a little less heavy handed with the brush strokes, and brought in that outline.
>>2815616theres some slight changes im going to make to the background but i wont post it again, this was the last crit i was taking.
>>2815616man u gotta learn to blend your colors. if I were you I would stop using the same dry texture for the background and use a more soft blended scheme. go easy on the thickness for the background, it will help with depth illusion.
>>2815633stupid sideways motherfucker
>>2815671He lives on the equator. it's not his fault.
Did I fucked up anything here?
>>2815699First glance the arm is like way too thin, deltoid isn't long enough and the pectoralis should connect to the arm.
>>2815209>>2815194I'm getting 200 bucks for it, and its an 8x11. Ive sold bigger for more to the same client. I agree It is very boring and not something id do on my own, thats what he wanted, the guy likes the style of it. Thanks for the advice on the contrast and shadows, i'll give it a few more layers an a coat of varnish before calling it done.
>>2812742Two things - values and edges.Squint your eyes and you'll see maybe two or three focal points competing with each other.Also, if you blur the edges, he'll look like a jelly bean instead of a mighty warrior.>>2813264Uncanny valley.I know you probably spent hours working those Vilppu videos and anatomy books, but something this stylized would benefit from a more smooth, cartoony look.>>2815211Thanks, but I posted my pigeon because I wanted critique and advice, not blog requests.
>>2815699Try drawing one muscle at a time, on separate layers. Draw them as forms, not shapes. Add cross contour lines to check if you understand the volume.
>>2815752>stealing 200 bucks from a friend too nice to say no to his art friend who swore "he'd draw up something sick bro".Disgusting. Hope he refuses it. There are better free to download skulls than that on the internet. Unless the band is literally named "Out of Focus Skullz" it's garbage.
>>2815512Lol. I can live with that interpretation.
>>2815752If you are selling it to a friend. Cut the price significantly. A 200 dollar price point for something that small of that quality is mean. Even if the dude likes the style. Because normies can't into art, dude. And if you're selling it to some random ass: go crazy.
>>2815616It looks a lot tighter now when you removed some of the outline. But I'd remove all of it.And the right down corner is still very empty.
>>2815781>>2815827god damn it /ic/. I feel pretty guilty now I guess. the truth is I didn't take too long on it, and he wasn't a friend but he's slowly become one as he's been buying my stuff. I think i'm gonna cut the the price. you guys are vicious but that's why I love it here. Here the first poster I did for him, dude wanted a struzan style thing.
>>2815902you're retarded if you listen to /ic/'s advice on pricing, most people here are completely ignorant.your pricing should be based on difficulty time and material, then on your client history. another thing: it doesn't matter if he's a friend. You don't want to rip off your friend right? But you don't want your friends to rip you off either. So a friend price is a fair price. And a fair price is what you should be charging always anyway.So yeah, desu you could slash the price inthat case, but only if/because it took you less time than planned.btw, >>2815902 is pretty good but once again you should have use a greater range of values, especially if it's a cover! that value range would be good for an inset, where you have text besides and you want a good illustration but that doesn't pop out too much.
Here's one I'm nearly done with, re-imagining Seven of Nine from Voyager.
>>2815902If he has already commissioned you once then i'm pretty sure he's getting what he wants desu senpai.
>>2815432I'm not a huge fan of the ligne claire desu. I don't want to dismiss Hergé but he's not the author I look out the most. It's still very effective tho
not mine, but i'd to know what this artist is lacking or fails at?
>>2815906check out the beginner thread, might get some help there.
>>2815955I don't like the design at all. Looks so fucking cluttered. Also the clawhand/sword area looks weird.
>>2815925i like your portraits, got any fullbody drawings?
>>2815432Looks like shit. Get better taste.
>>2815599>>how did u kno is was me?????
>>2815966This is how WW3 is started
>>2815976Top fucking kek, anon.
>>2815978You wanna go, boy?
>>2815982You are trashing on perhaps THE most influential comic book artist who has ever lived. His contribution to the medium, especially adventure comics, makes artists like Eisner and Kirby look like second hand hacks. His art style is extremely distinguishable, well made and intelligent, not to mention that he is a storytelling genius. He is a European treasure, and you are a uncultured faggot.
>>2815995Not this anon, but Hergé is kinda a scam. Most of his stories weren't written by him and he paid the writers and some others draftsmen to not have to mention their names on the cover or inside. Furthermore, he was a Nazi sympathizer. But I won't deny most of what you wrote and that he had a tremendous influence on Comics.
>>2816037I actually find Tintin to be quite boring reads. It suffers like crazy from the Seinfeld syndrome. I just wanted the argument.But the quality of the art can not be disputed. Shit's really good.
>>2815915you're no where near finished kid.learn to fucking color.
>>2815616That looks a lot better imo getting rid of that outline around the bread makes the focus (the bread) much more appealing.
>>2816100unrelated but... do i REALLY have to wait 6 months before I varnish a painting. I need 3 paintings ready to display every month and I always put my newest stuff in (unvarnished)... the idea of having so many paintings that I can wait 6 months for something to dry before I display it seems insane. I would be using Dammar Picture Varnish
>>2815902That guy is trolling you hard anon. You're fine, keep doing your thing. The other guy has some good advice though, your stuff could use a few brighter values in focal points.
>>2816045Tsk. Tsk. Keep symbol drawing then.
>>2816155What are you on about?
>>2816166Keep on drawing swastikas.
working on this thing still
currently doing thisyou like it /ic/? :3
thinking of doing some illustrations. I want to make my work less about metaphors and punchlines and get humor out of things that are a bit more... associative. Not puns based on wordplay but just something observational.
changed some of the colors... i think if i add some impasto strokes going the opposite direction of the ones I have it could make this painting really dramatic and ten times more interesting.
>>2816191Is this a meme?
>>2816191why would you render the whole face before anything else.
>>2816479its more fun to mewhat you gon do bout itbitch
>>2816479Are you just gonna take that anon?
>>2816444It's already super interesting.
something is off help pls no bully
>>2816479If the face is fucked there is no point in doing the rest
>>2816661Why are his eyeballs so yellow
>>2816668they just are
random studies, color and what not too.
random studies with colors too.
>>2815449I noticed Catt went from 1726 to 1728 favorites on twitter and one of them was your latest painting. First time I ever saw her favorite art of yours that wasn't of her. Nice job man!Can you try to convince her to get a livejournal or something? These 1 month hiatuses are killing me :(
You need to get into B Kliban and Saul Steinberg.
>>2816689How do you get such a smooth transition of color? Also how are your colors like glowing? How did you get that effect? It's ridiculous.
>>2816444It'll either make it more interesting or completely fuck it up
>>2816719i already did it. this is what it looks like now.
>>2815955Rendering is nice and all but the design just scream F2P showelware game art to me
>>2816736That's because chinese artists do artwork for those type of games. If you took the game away, they are good. Just because the game is shit doesn't mean they're shit.
>>2816717okay so usually when doing this stuff i draw it out in greyscale. if you have the object lasso'd into it's own layer or what ever, hit ctrl+B to bring up the cololor balance and tweak it to your liking. in the case a reddish orange. next thing you want to do is set your brush mode to overlay. set the opacity low and grab a soft round brush cause you'll be airbrushing over the object. use a larger brush for a smoother gradient. arm on left is with the two color below it and same with the arm on the right. additionally once you get one you like you can brin gup ctrl+U and get some variations and use the same airbrushing effect above to get them to your liking.
>>2814152Do I have permission to use this as a song cover
>>2816844Tumblr/10 kill yourself
>>2816247His other leg isn't on the foot peg.
>>2816844can I use this for my friends band logo?
These are the two I'm working on atm.please be gentle
>>2816902mind if i use this for my grandmother's pinterest?
>>2816258i like the lines>>2816844probably a good use of post processing imo
>>2815345this is so good. darker values in characters make the composition so much more elegant
Finally done with this. Like it or rip it apart; I don't care anymore.
>>2817232damn i can't even name any of the new pokemon
>>2817232I love the colorsWhy can't it be summer already
>>2815955>maybe if I add another screen layer, nobody will notice that I have no idea how muscles work
A smol skull, feel free to roast me.Do you guys all use the loomis head?My problem with it is that the sphere doesn't represent any real mass, the cranium is much smaller and in the back.Also I use the Hale measuring system, so it's difficult for me to guess where and how big is the sphere supposed to be.>>2816741That's an interesting approach, thanks anon.
>>2816112I have no idea, I only do digital shit
>>2817549this looks like it's missing some of the skullcap in the back desu
>>2817560You're right, how did I not notice. Tunnel vision's a bitch haha, thanks anon.
Is there any way to make pic related faster? it's just so time consuming this way. is there a tool/3d modeling software to do it faster and just trace it?
>>2817597yeah. but you still need an intuition for perspective for fine details or coming up with quick concepts, otherwise you might as well ditch drawing and do 3d modelling. DESU perspective is a lot quicker than modelling in 3d, it can take a month to make a highres model vs a couple hours for a painting.
>>2817597google sketch up. or pretty much any 3d program
>>2814981I want to have sex with it tbqhwy
>>2817597that shouldn't be time consuming. Just practice it enough until you know what you're doing. It looks like just a couple steps to me
Is it just me, or is /ic/ better than it used to be a few years ago?
>>2817160traced as fuck, kill yourself you retard
trying to be less lazy
>>2813846I'm sure he just internalised construction so well that he doesn't need to put it to paper anymore.A lot of artists become that way after a while.
Another skull. Guys, this is so much fun, could we have like an event where everyone draws skulls and deconstructs them in different ways?Sinix mentions how important that shit is for portrait drawing and who knows, maybe we'd come up with alternatives to the Loomis Head.>>2817597You could use sketch-up or something, but I really recommend this exercise. After you've done it 10, 20 times, you'll become very accurate at guessing it.Invaluable for freehand perspective sketching.>>2817620>someone put forth this much effort just to help me improveDamn that feels nice.Thanks anon, you made it look like a human creature. The cranial shape still bugs me tho.
>>2815619the neck is completely stiff even though he's being strangled hard. It wouldn't hurt to exaggerate the proportions of the man being strangled a bit to add more energy to the image. The style looks perfect for exaggeration
>>2815955That painting is so bloody overdone it hurts. It's beautifully done don't get me wrong but there's no common theme amongst the elements and it's an overdone design.
>>2817881So it's good
Progress on the enviroment I'm doing for a collab with a friend, she'll be designing the characters and I'm doing the backgrounds. Any help to make it better I'm struggling and don't want to disappoint.
>>2817905These are the thumbnails for what we're going for.
>>2817905post her work
>>2817912She's only design two characters thus far, she'll being painting them in once I'm finished the enviroment. Then I'll be sent it back for editing and overall touch up.
>>2817919I feel like her style and mine don't match that well which I why I think I've got to go back and do a repaint, but any help with the current peice would help.
>>2817905What you're really saying is that she's using you to help her on *her* project for free, right?Looking pretty good though. Very nice use of atmospheric perspective and on making the snow feel dynamic.>>2817921>I think I've got to go back and do a repaintIf she suggested this to you in any way, and you aren't getting the lions share of the profit if you ever plan on selling it on Steam (I assume you're doing a vn) you're getting ripped off.
>>2817928I'm not getting ripped off, it's because we're both on a illustration course and we got put together for a collaberative week long assignment. I think the tutor put us together because we are both good at our own thing but we're both very different.Either way, back to work and thank you for the response.
>>2817934No problem. If you aren't already you should try doing commissions. You're at the level where it could earn you some decent extra money for sure.
>>2816714not that guy, but thanks for the names, both of them are great.
gave up on finishing this properly... really screwed up the anatomy oopplease, anyone have tips on drapery as well as how lighting's supposed to hit?
>>2817951You could tighten up some of the edges and review the neck and shoulders, but overall you did a pretty good job.
>>2817959thanks, and will do! am kinda bad at showing form thru the clothing...
>>2812410rip me a new one nowhere near finished, however
Any problems with this before I start polishing? And should I go for a black and white ink finish or color?
>>2818123marylin manson fanart?