/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.2800119]

[May 2017 bless you with art gains, /beg/gars!]

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead (I recommend ShareX)

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

OLD THREAD:

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[Anonymous No.2800174]

still cannot draw handa and feet and all my drawings are chicken scratch shit. should i start learning anatomy and proportions or something else? also its really hard to draw consiqutive drawings of same characters. sorry but i accidently posted in both the previous /beg threads.

[Anonymous No.2800176]

>>2800174
also heres my attempt at that tribal woman from previous two threads

[Anonymous No.2800180]

>>2800174
sorry heres a rotated one

[Anonymous No.2800181]

hey guys, I'm following along with 'How to Draw' by Scott Robertson, and I'm having a lot of trouble with this reflect a tilted and rotated object exercise. Did I reflect my points correctly here?

I apologize if its very tough to read.

[Anonymous No.2800214]

>>2797738

[Anonymous No.2800219]

kek i have no idea what im doing. everything look good so far?

[Nose Bro No.2800317]

>>2800119
Hi guys i dont want to detract too much from the thread but id like to get some feedback from those who recently read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.2800328]

>>2800317
good sticky

[Anonymous No.2800355]

Figure no.1, the mirrored one (on the left) - Is it me, or it's just too big in relation to the original one? (I've tried to visualize it in blender, and it looked different a little)

[Anonymous No.2800372]

>>2800355
I have no idea what I'm looking at to be desu.

[Anonymous No.2800435]

What kind of coloured pencil should I use for construction?
Are their any brands I should be looking for?

[Anonymous No.2800452]

Construction and Form
Recommended material: Sycra on construction, Draw a box, Bridgeman and Hampton

What from draw a box, bridgeman and hampton? The guide could be a little more precise...

[Anonymous No.2800455]

>>2800435
>needing a colored pencil
>for construction

?

[Anonymous No.2800456]

>>2800317
I like that it breaks art into various little pieces (divide to conquer), but it should be a little more precise about the materials you need from each source, although most of the sources are detailed, not every one is.

Just citing the name of an author doesn't really guide you to the specific material, it more or less guides the anon to ask which material from that guy should he use to study that subject.

All in all, the people made/are making the sticky are doing god's work.

(This coming from an anon who was lost, but now its not (so much) lost, I'll finish keys to drawing and then start draw a box and perspective made easy)

[Anonymous No.2800457]

>>2800452
Their flagship books (Complete Guide to Drawingr from Life/Figure Drawing Design and Invention) all specifically made for the understanding the concept of construction and form.

[Anonymous No.2800459]

>>2800372
Now it should be clear, I think (Sorry for my eng).
>>2800452
Draw a box is all about constructing things with basic shape. Just go on the website and check it out for yourself.

[Anonymous No.2800461]

>>2800455
What would you recommend then? I've been using a 2B pencil for everything so far but it's tedious and seeing as how I see blue lines used a lot presumably they are using coloured pencil.

[Anonymous No.2800467]

>>2800461
The blue lines used are "non-photo blue" which means blue strokes don't show up on certain cameras are scanners in the design industry. It's like having an underlying sketch on a layer that you hide later in Photoshop. Colored pencils aren't needed at all - you should understand the function of things instead of following them blindly. This is, of course assuming that you are not in the design industry.

[Anonymous No.2800480]

>>2800435
>what do i use to draw with
>what do i draw on

[Anonymous No.2800499]

I dont wanna make my own thread on /ic/ so I decided this was the best way to ask.

I have lots of art and was wondering how and what is the best way to get it put on a canvas so it looks like the real thing

[Anonymous No.2800538]

I did Preston Blair's hands tutorial

Is it good?

[Anonymous No.2800540]

>>2800459
Thanks! I'm going through it right now, I'm liking very much the no bullshit approach just do this shit 1423789 times.

[Anonymous No.2800566]

>>2800538
It is a single hand anon. Please spend the next few days drawing a bunch of hands then ask for crit. Drawing a single thing once isn't going to get you good, you need to do it over and over from different angles.

If you were going for sight size you can obviously see the angle of your thumb and little figer are off. Just keep drawing senpai. The #1 trap people fall into is doing something once and then coming here for advice. Put this place out of your mind for a month and focus on heavy repition of whatever you're interested in. Start in small increments if you feel burnt out.

[Anonymous No.2800609]

>>2800538
god that's small

[Anonymous No.2800614]

>>2800609
I can't draw large

[Anonymous No.2800626]

Made a thread but should have posted it here

So I really really need your help /ic/. I'm in a hard phase of my life, I'm a uni student and in few years or even less I will have to start working, I will have way less time to draw. In the meanwhile I still have to study a lot of shit and I can't waste my time. Can you give me a complete course or a good drawing program? (ex. read this book, do this exercise tot times, read this other book, do this, etc.).
I'm a beginner, I want to get into digital art but want to be able to draw almost evrything from characters, to landscapes, to comics etc.

[Anonymous No.2800637]

>>2800614
Yes you can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMC0Cx3Uk84

[Anonymous No.2800638]

>>2800317
if you want my input, your sticky in a relatively perfect world is best. but, this is not a perfect world. many new anons come here and dont fully read it, or read it at all. for these people with infantile attention spans you need a highly simplified, spoonfeeding section with a big, bold, red headline saying "ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS READ THIS FIRST" that contains a bunch of 3d space exercises, loomis head construction, perspective rules and the basics of figures, since thats what most people start with.

[Anonymous No.2800639]

>>2800120

[Anonymous No.2800646]

>>2800626
I'm actually in that situation right now. I started getting serious with art when I started my job 6 months ago realizing I wasted my an entire year being a neet playing vidya instead of improving my art.

I'd recommend Keys to Drawing. Almost everyone does, right? At work I'd steal some paper from the office printer and do the exercises instead of working.

[Anonymous No.2800688]

Honestly have no idea when it comes to drawing females, this is my experimental attempt based on few references and basic knowledge

[Anonymous No.2800697]

>>2800688
Sorry here's a more appropriate size and angle.

[Anonymous No.2800737]

>>2800697
Do more figure drawings of women. Their arms are generally thinner, necks are thinner etc.

[Anonymous No.2800742]

>>2800119
I often see people here saying to work on the fundamentals, do exercise on them etc.? What are they referring to? How do I do these exercises?

[Anonymous No.2800744]

spent more time on the left one. Hands are hard.
Question, do you start with a background of charcoal before drawing or add that later?

[Anonymous No.2800747]

>>2800744
refaroni

[Anonymous No.2800766]

>>2800697
try this
also construction, read loomis

[Anonymous No.2800803]

Why does this look so off? What am I doing wrong? Because for the love of god, i can't tell.

[Anonymous No.2800809]

>>2800803
do >>2800766 and read the sticky before posting

[Anonymous No.2800833]

>>2800126
>Head too wide
>Mouth is fucked up
>Right eye too big
>No shading

Faces are hard. I tried to not directly copy line for line but instead briefly look at the picture and then draw it, but nothing came out right in this. The mouth is one of the better ones I've drawn though, trying to get the shadows right so that I don't have to draw a line to form the lips.

[Anonymous No.2800842]

>>2800833
did you not do construction or did you just not show it?

[Anonymous No.2800857]

>>2800842
I didn't think about much of anything when I did that, and it shows.

[Anonymous No.2800859]

>>2800626
Go for drawabox.com and focus on the first few exercises, and Keys to Drawing.

You'll still have some time, trust me. At the start, just focus on doodling. Don't worry about how it all looks, what you want is to be able to set aside some time each day to put pencil to paper. It can be ten minutes, that's perfectly fine for starting out. Building consistency will benefit you in the long run.

[Anonymous No.2800860]

>>2800809
They've clearly read the sticky, that head is actually coherent.

>>2800803
There's too much detail around her eyes, and I'm unsure of her cranium shape. Maybe revise Loomis's method again, although I'm even worse than you so I can't really say much else.

[Anonymous No.2800865]

how often should I post my work here? after every drawing?

[Anonymous No.2800870]

>>2800859
Thanks man, but I already did drawabox and keys to drawing, what should I do after that?

[Anonymous No.2800871]

>>2800865
When you have questions or you can't find nothing wrong with your drawing.

[Anonymous No.2800886]

>>2800766
Isnt this literally just the drawacube guys lessons?

[Anonymous No.2800889]

>>2800886
pretty much, its for the people who dont even search for drawabox

[Anonymous No.2800901]

Aside form whatever the fuck I did in primary school over a decade ago, I have not drawn anything ever. But I'd like to.
So I'm going to draw something every day in an effort to not suck and I'll share it with all of you wonderful people on /ic/. We can laugh at me together.

Here's my first thing. My hand seemed like as fine a place to start as any. I tried my best not to chicken-scratch the outlines, having vaguely heard somewhere once that that is a bad thing. I have some idea of what smudging is supposed to do.
My execution is... lacking.
Whatever. Day one.

[Anonymous No.2800915]

>>2800128
very new to digital art

[Anonymous No.2800916]

>>2800126

I can see a lot of the errors already through a transparent overlay (nose and lips out of perspective, wonky eyes and ear shapes, incorrect hairline, etc.). I did a decent amount of measuring, but my method was a bit haphazard.

Should I always strive for creating a vertical/horizontal grid of the major landmarks of the entire head and face first before doing anything else, like Loomis demonstrates in the Heads and Hands book with facial proportions?

Also, would it be more appropriate to use crosshatching for values in the case where a pencil isn't able to effectively capture extreme darks?

[Anonymous No.2800920]

>>2800842
From my experience drawing from life goes against using construction. Bert Dodson outlines that objects in reality can appear unorthodox when viewed from particular angles or when light is bent (for example: if a pole is bent in an undulating sea or a head is foreshortened when the Artist is observing the figure lying down). Because it is vital that lines are copied precisely to emulate the likeness: drawing means ignoring logic, looking at the subject, and recording lines and angles without the interference of the brain.

Construction is therefore quite a superfluous skill when drawing from observation, though not when trying to internalize forms; yet, as the Artist wants to learn how to internalize the form of an object in the world into their mind, instead of using forms that already exist in their mind to create the object: breaking the object down into contour lines, organic forms et al. should be secondary to accurate proportions. A better skill to learn for observational drawing is the accuracy of plumb lines and the ability to squint and perceive negative spaces. Even Uncomfortable, the author of Draw A Box, maintains that "reality is flawed" and so exceptions can be made when creating compositions with a rich visual experience, and so this should hold true for the innate objects of sight as well.

The picture here represents one of the flaws of using construction: that it requires intensely understood and controlled lines which cannot be drawn blind, which goes against the rule of looking at the subject more than you look at the paper. In theory: all of the visual information is there, and the longer you look at it the more likely you are to internalise it.

[Anonymous No.2800929]

>>2800901
that's a good day one anon. if you haven't already read the sticky. keys to drawing or drawing on the right side of the brain plus draw-a-box are good places to start if you weren't already aware.

[Anonymous No.2800949]

>>2800125
>>2800126

>2016 + 1
>still symbol drawing
>still chicken scratching

[Anonymous No.2800951]

>>2800920
So how does drawing from observation equate to a better understanding of construction? If the longer we look at our subject means the more we are to internalize it, aren't we inadvertently analyzing and internalizing forms into our mind for future use?

[Anonymous No.2800957]

>>2800766
you can stop spamming this whenever you want

[Anonymous No.2800960]

>>2800929
Thanks, anon. I'm starting with "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain," actually. Was going to do DotRSotB -> Keys to Drawing -> Fun With a Pencil -> Perspective Made Easy.

[Anonymous No.2800961]

>>2800126
I tried too and it sucks. I know is shit but I can't exactly understand why.
I know the shading is a total mess, how do I do it right?

[Anonymous No.2800965]

>>2800960
DRSB and Keys to Drawing are pretty much the same thing.

[Anonymous No.2800969]

>>2800965
If they're too similar, I'll just skim the latter and skip exercises that look like repeats/uninteresting.
Thanks for the tip off.

[Anonymous No.2800971]

>>2800969
I'd skip DRSB and just do Keys. There's actual advice and technique instead of pseudoscience and blathering. But then I'm a cognitive scientist and won't touch anything that has "side of the brain" in the title.

[Anonymous No.2800977]

Bit of a dry post today. The diagrams in chapter 2 took a lot more time than I estimated.

[Anonymous No.2800985]

>>2800977
for the grid stuff do you use a ruler or do you gotta do that shit by hand too?

[Anonymous No.2801009]

>>2800744
this is mine, but I can see that I'm better at rendering and values than construction. Cause this doesn't really hold up construction wise. But I'm struggling when drawing from ref to avoid copying lines and rather draw the actual object.

[Anonymous No.2801012]

So before i try and render here something. i would appreciate a second opinion on this.

[Anonymous No.2801021]

>>2800977
How long did this take you?

[Anonymous No.2801027]

>>2800951
>If the longer we look at our subject means the more we are to internalize it, aren't we inadvertently analyzing and internalizing forms into our mind for future use?

Not the person you're replying to but yes, and I think that's the point here.

I think there's a bit of an unneeded dichotomy to observational vs constructional approaches that, IMHO, new artists are better not thinking of them as being opposites but rather two parts of a whole.

Approaching it from observation, you have to come to terms with the fact that most of the shapes out there, including the human form, can be broken down into basic building blocks. Whether it be spheres, cylinders, boxes, cones et cetera or not, the ability to capture and represent parts of the human body as construction-based, especially early on, helps communicate likeness and gesture right away.

For example, when you get into rendering and other details you have to come to terms with the fact that you're looking at 3D forms and you're carefully assessing how pronounced the form is depending on how light falls on it.

Approaching it from construction, although you can set a scene up in many different ways that are technically correct, visually they will appear bland, or off in some way. Observation drills into you what angles look right, what lines are most likely to appear to your eye given a particular subject, et cetera.

For example, we almost never draw the face straight on even though we could - construction wise there's nothing wrong with doing this. But a 3/4 view face looks far better, has more rhythmic quality because you've got a nice contrast between the curvature of the side of the face and the block-like nature of the nose with the eye being overlapped by the nose.

So this is where you need both observation and construction to drill into you a) likeness, b) good design

[Anonymous No.2801028]

>>2800985
I used a ruler for these grids. Later in Robertsons book he does teach how to do grids free hand.

[Anonymous No.2801041]

>>2801021
I started around 07.00 and worked untill 18.00. There was a food break, lunchbreak and a 1 h do what ever break, so like 9 h? Not counting bathroom breaks.

[Anonymous No.2801042]

>>2801041
nice, keep it up d e s u

[Anonymous No.2801043]

>>2801041
whats your endgoal jezza?

[Anonymous No.2801049]

>>2801041
jesus how do you have so much free time to do this?

[Anonymous No.2801052]

>>2801042
Thanks family men, I will.

>>2801043
I want to work in animation and I also want to pursue my own things, like making my own vidiya and stuff. Currently my goal is to get into an animation school.

[Anonymous No.2801054]

>>2801049
I am a neet.

[Anonymous No.2801055]

>>2801054
productive neet best neet, gptta make good use of all that free time

[Anonymous No.2801056]

>>2801012

Lay the lines over the ref.

[Anonymous No.2801059]

>>2800961

How do you get good? Repetition.

Read books
Watch videos

Draw heads A LOT.

[Anonymous No.2801065]

>>2801052
western animation or weeb animation?

[Anonymous No.2801068]

>>2800977

Nice! Noticed some of the Robertson diagrams in there. Coincidentally going through the whole thing myself.

If this sounds insulting, I don't mean it to be.

But what's your end goal? You've been posting line practice, ellipses, perspective, and the occasional life drawing on a bus/subway for a while.

I was just curious. For some reason going down the road I was thinking about your posts and it popped into my head to ask.

[Anonymous No.2801071]

>>2800119
I've always wanted to ask this because this is a beginners question. But why does Drawing in the right side get such a bad reputation around here?

I know it has a lot of psudeo science in it. But is that all or is Keys far superior for other reasons.

[Anonymous No.2801076]

>>2800125
About ten minutes in, I'll keep at it.

[Anonymous No.2801101]

>>2801071

Books on how to draw have been around for centuries and they cover the same damn things.

DTRSTB is way too coddly but that's a personal thing. For some people that might be just what they need to get over the hump of "this is too hard for me"/"i'm not talented". It's akin to a laid back weekend workshop class where you can't tell if the instructor has a lazy eye or if he has actual concentration issues, but you like the vibe anyway and it makes you feel good so you keep going. It's relatively non-committal.

KTD has a flow similar to older drawing books. It's intent is to ramp you up with the underlying expectation that you're playing to win because you know you can't draw and the author is taking the time to teach you in a straightforward way. The first chapter makes it obvious that he expects you to put standards on your training.

[Anonymous No.2801133]

Tried doing some stuff today.
Can't eyeball proportions for the life of me.

[Anonymous No.2801137]

>>2801133
Perspective stuff.

[Anonymous No.2801144]

>>2801137
this is another situation in which this might be applicable >>2800766

[Anonymous No.2801188]

>>2801076
It's getting there.

[Anonymous No.2801194]

No reference

[Anonymous No.2801235]

>>2800355
Hmmm

I too have been going through scotts how to draw book. At some point i feel like it's less about drawing than it is about knowing tricks. Wheres the understanding that should be involved, not the xyz trickeroo.

[Anonymous No.2801242]

>>2801012
did you construct or simply copy?

[Anonymous No.2801244]

>>2801242
Is it really that clear cut? Is constructing a method or a mindset.

[Anonymous No.2801249]

am I supposed to start with hogarths dynamic anatomy or dynamic figure drawing? What are the differences? Pls help

[Anonymous No.2801250]

>>2801244
Construction is using known landmarks and rules to build a form that may not necessarily be there. The whole idea of that face is different levels of construction.

You clearly didn't copy it well, but nor did you use the construction its teaching.

[Anonymous No.2801251]

>>2801244
its a method that results in a mindset. its mostly the method though. it is clear cut, if you didnt draw the construction lines then you didnt use construction. you should here.

[Anonymous No.2801252]

>>2801249
If you're in this thread, neither. Dyanamic anatomy is more theory and history than anatomy and dynamic figure drawing is a bit much to make use of until you have figure drawing and perspective down well enough.

Dynamic Figure Drawing would be where to start though.

[Anonymous No.2801253]

>>2801244

pretty much as these
>>2801250
>>2801251
anons have stated.

[Anonymous No.2801256]

>>2801252
>neither
I heard they were good for beginners, what should I be using to learn figure drawing then? Any other Hogarth books? Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.2801263]

>>2801250
>>2801251
>>2801253
Actually, I am this guy >>2800744

But I am struggling with construction.

[Anonymous No.2801268]

>>2801256
Dynamic Figure Drawing is really good and has a lot of valuable technique and practice, but it's like he assumes you already know all the construction that goes into it and goes from there.

Michael Hampton covers everything you need from the start. Bridgeman or Vilppu if you want completely different approaches.

[Anonymous No.2801270]

>>2801268
Sweet. I'll do Hampton or vilppu and then jump into Hogarth. Thanks again man.

[Anonymous No.2801272]

>>2801263
in the case of that, your rendering suggests you understand the forms atleast alittle bit, but there are areas that are flat. how about you try again, and instead of focusing on the rendering, try and focus on the shapes and forms before you. do you follow?

[Anonymous No.2801283]

>>2801270
Yeah, he just jumps straight into jojos.

[Anonymous No.2801286]

>>2801283
kek

[Anonymous No.2801291]

>>2801272
okay, I'll try that. I'll only focus on construction and not think about rendering.

[Anonymous No.2801292]

>>2801286
DYNAMIC
Y
N
A
M
I
C

[Anonymous No.2801303]

how the fuck do i draw ellipses

[Anonymous No.2801308]

>>2801303
Draw a circle in perspective.

[Anonymous No.2801309]

>>2801303

[Anonymous No.2801311]

>>2801303
U+click

[Anonymous No.2801319]

>>2801308
>>2801309
>>2801311

let me clarify. how do i draw an ellipse on the face of a cube in 1 2 or 3 point perspective.

>inb4 scott fucking robertson desu

[Anonymous No.2801322]

>>2801303
Hey there. You sound like a really good candidate for benefiting from >>2800766 this. It'll really help you out.

[Anonymous No.2801324]

>>2801319
make sure the highest point is exactly in the middle of the top/bottom face of the cube and the widest point is exactly in the middle of the side faces of the cube

also just practise. that one is very hard to master. i've been doing it every day for months as my warmup and im far from doing it perfectly.

[Anonymous No.2801327]

How can I learn to do portraits with such 'simple' values. It seems that there's only really light, dark and something in between here but my work is a mess.

[Anonymous No.2801338]

>>2801327
This will help. Try using darker paper, like brown, and use one color (like charcoal or a red pencil) for shadows and a white pencil/chalk for highlights. The paper will be the middle tone. It's a helpful way to start seeing where shadow is, how dark it is, etc.
This book is really helpful.

[Anonymous No.2801352]

>>2801338
Thanks, I'll see if I can find it.

[Anonymous No.2801358]

Just learning form, anatomy and perspective.
My pen isn't arriving until january 12th so i'm taking this time to practice with my mouse.

[Anonymous No.2801364]

>>2801358
loomis
those are masculine shoulders
symbolic
construction
not anime yet

[Anonymous No.2801367]

>>2801364
Hopped over from learning how muscles and joints are connected on male bodies, thanks for the criticism. I have a really hard time noticing shit myself, so if you find more errors, please tell me. Apparently i'm pretty shit at faces, too, so I gotta work on that.

[Anonymous No.2801370]

>>2801101
Good that's what I needed. Because I've never held a pencil in my whole life and DTRSTB has given me a lot of confidence.

After this book should I do keys as well? Would it help me ground the fundamentals even deeper?

Also thanks for answering my question.

[Anonymous No.2801374]

>>2801367
spend time learning your way around your software for now. the mouse skill is near useless i think. do traditional too if you can. read some of the books in the sticky.

[Anonymous No.2801377]

>>2801327
https://www.mediafire.com/?jpjpq5u5aw1ui19
Its not exactly what you're asking but it might help you understand light and shadow better.

Its CTRL Paints basic rendering 1,2,3, and 4.
It can be applied to digital as well as traditional drawing/painting.

[Anonymous No.2801384]

>>2801374
Pen arrives on january 12th, just spending my time learning anatomy right now.

[Anonymous No.2801392]

>>2801384
alright but you've got no excuse not to have gone through most of this by the time it arrives then http://www.ctrlpaint.com/

[Anonymous No.2801440]

>>2800126
should I even keep trying with this sketch? or is it already too shitted up?

[Anonymous No.2801445]

[Anonymous No.2801483]

just finished this, would love tablet realted cc (or regular) cause this is the first week ive owned one. drawn from reference

[Anonymous No.2801487]

>>2801483
a much quicker study

[Nose Bro No.2801488]

>>2800638
that would be the "beginner's essential toolkit" how would you suggest i make it more prominent?

[Anonymous No.2801499]

>>2801483
Looks trace tastic

[Anonymous No.2801510]

Does anyone else feel incredibly sad and discouraged when drawing? I feel this way any time I even pick up and pencil and don't really know what to do.

[Anonymous No.2801516]

>>2801499
thanks, i guess im starting to get proportions down well :D

[Anonymous No.2801548]

fug landscapes are hard with traditional

[Anonymous No.2801585]

>>2800126
I did a transparent overlay of what I did. Looks like I got the size ratios more or less right ( except the ears ) but got the positioning all fucked up.

[Anonymous No.2801591]

>>2801242
I thought the point of the Asaro head was that it acted as the construction itself and was the basic form of the head

[Anonymous No.2801593]

I'm working from Scott Robertsons 'how to draw',

and I'm wondering if I've correctly transferred the height of box A to the 'rotated 2 point' and '1 point' perspective grids. The green lines are the ones I used to transfer the height. I'm fairly new to perspective so I am having a difficult time knowing whether it looks right or the 'cone of vision' is distorting it.

Any help or advice is appreciated- thanks.

[Anonymous No.2801596]

>>2801548
Try out a dry medium like color pencil; whatever colour you lay down stays exactly as it is

[Anonymous No.2801599]

>>2801596
like a base? thats a good idea, thanks. fug tradition is way more expensive than digital (assuming you already had an adequate pc/laptop in the first place)

[Anonymous No.2801602]

>>2801591
its my understanding that it exaggerates the planes of the head so you can understand how to light it properly

[Anonymous No.2801621]

>>2800180
>>2800174
>>2800176
why no critique? is this too gay or inspropriate for a beg thread? if so where should i go to get some constructive critique or get some info on what should i learn now? or should u draw something thats normal and then post.

[Anonymous No.2801646]

>>2801055
For sure. I know how it is to when you go to school and have a job, so I know not to piss away this amazing chance.

>>2801065
Western. No hate on animays, but I doubt that a filthy ganji such as myself could work in japan. I also heard that they work you like a slave, so I doubt I could handle that.

>>2801068
I am currently working trough aguri`s one year fundamentals guide. Perspective is term 1, so I am drilling that quite hard right now. I try to do other stuff, like there are some cartoon drawings here and there, but perspective is the main thing I am learning right now. goals >>2801052

[Anonymous No.2801686]

>Want to draw something specific
>Know it's going to take a shit ton of technical skill
How long does it take to get to Nihei Tier?

[Anonymous No.2801688]

eric here. i didnt get crits on the heads a did in the other thread but i did some more anyways

[Anonymous No.2801689]

>>2801688

[Anonymous No.2801691]

>>2801689

[Anonymous No.2801697]

>>2801688
eric back at it again with the tablet

your gouache painting was already leagues above your digital

[Anonymous No.2801701]

I want a kneaded eraser, but the lack of art supplies shops around where I live is hilarious. I was thinking about ordering a few online, but I wanted to ask how long do they last on average.

[Anonymous No.2801702]

>>2801697
>your gouache painting was already leagues above your digital
thnx which one thoughg

>eric back at it again with the tablet
well im not going to practice with a medium i dont intend on using

[Anonymous No.2801703]

>>2801701
You can buy it in most general stationary/book store, mine is lasting me quite a while but I don't tend to use it much.

[Anonymous No.2801704]

>>2801703
No, I can't. Believe me, I looked.

[Anonymous No.2801708]

Does it look competent enough?
Can you read it?
Redline much much appreciated
>LOLI
Shortstack

[Anonymous No.2801709]

>>2801708
Now draw the rest of the elephant.

[Anonymous No.2801712]

I'm going to start drawing this year. Is drawabox the best place to start?

[Anonymous No.2801713]

>>2801709

[Anonymous No.2801716]

>>2801712
The sticky is the best place to start.

[Anonymous No.2801718]

>post my work
>see new reply
>have a terrible irrational fear that it will be about my work, trashing and roasting it
>open thread
>not even directed to me
>relief
>repeat
Is it just me?
Feel is just me

[Anonymous No.2801724]

>>2801718
Nope. Except I hope that it's about my work, so I can see what I did wrong. I'm the worst "artist" in these threads, I need all the roasting I can get.

[Anonymous No.2801725]

>>2801686
not long at all. basic perspective will get you there.

Some experience in values/light/shadow will be useful.

you'll notice that he actually sucked at drawing faces on his characters in the beginning of the manga, but improved drastically as it went on.

[Anonymous No.2801727]

>>2801718
>post my work
>see new reply
>get my body for trashing and roasting
>open thread
>nothing but praise

feels bad man

[Anonymous No.2801736]

So I tried making me a daily program. I'm this guy >>2800961

40 minutes of warm ups and drawaboxlike exercises

drawing from reference photos, don't know how much it will take to me

1-1.30 hour reading perspective made easy and doing the exercises

Suggestions on what to add or how I should modify it?

[Anonymous No.2801745]

>>2801516
it's traced

[Anonymous No.2801757]

I don't have any money. Will a cheap Genius tablet do the trick? Or should I try to save for a Wacom?

[Anonymous No.2801783]

figuring out how NOT to paint count as improvment right?

[Anonymous No.2801785]

not feeling it anymore with this one

[Anonymous No.2801862]

First time studying using Bridgman's book

[Anonymous No.2801876]

>>2800125
I feel like this is really lazy but I just wanted to get involved

[Anonymous No.2801895]

So, I'm an absolute beginner, and I was considering making a deviantart profile just to post something in there every day, even if it's just a shitty shaded cube or shitty sketch or shitty whatever. Point is not really to receive critique at first, but simply to have a place to keep track of my progress.

Should I do it?

[Anonymous No.2801901]

>>2801895
>>2801895

>hedgehog posting

Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.2801907]

>>2801901
Everyone knows the erinaceinae is Deviantart's official mascot, you fuckwit; I was just trying to keep it thematic.

[Anonymous No.2801917]

>>2801895
Holy shit you can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.2801944]

What are some good studies for the kind of aesthetic I went for here? I want to get better at this sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.2801946]

>>2801895
no you shouldn't do it

[Anonymous No.2801954]

>>2801012
I'am this guy.

>>2801242
>>2801244
>>2801250
>>2801251

Are you saying I didn't use construction ?
That it looks flat?
Im confused.

[Anonymous No.2801957]

>>2801907
The what is deviant art mascot?

Your autism?

[Anonymous No.2801966]

>>2801917
You mean you never did the 'google your name with 'hedgehog' in front of it' thing?

[Anonymous No.2801974]

>>2801895
>>2801907

[Anonymous No.2801980]

>>2801954
The idea of construction is using simple forms to preserve symmetry and make everything the same size on both sides of the face. The more complex planes on the right are built from the ones on the left. If you had used the construction it is showing, the whole thing would be close to symmetrical.

[Anonymous No.2801995]

>>2801980
Thanks man, I think you just opened my eyes.

[Anonymous No.2802003]

Want to start going outside once a day and sketching a little picture. Day 1.

[Anonymous No.2802031]

>>2801377
this is cool, thanks

[Anonymous No.2802034]

thoughts?
i think the music helped a bit
hair was hard

[Anonymous No.2802037]

>>2800697
>>2800737
Second drawing, haven't studied anymore references since. Tried to make the arms and neck more thin but she is still looking pretty masculine. The legs are shocking I know, I should really be doing this in pencil.

[Anonymous No.2802042]

>>2802003
Good start, I'd say work on perspective a bit. That fence for example doesn't appear to change size despite it changing distance.

[Anonymous No.2802053]

>>2802042
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind

[Anonymous No.2802056]

Just going to post some pen copies of bridgmans 100 hands book. I'm noticing how switching up what I study on a month to month basis helps things stay fresh and makes me want to keep drawing

1/?

[Anonymous No.2802059]

2/?

[Anonymous No.2802064]

And I guess thats it for now, thanks for loooking

[Anonymous No.2802067]

>>2802064
But do you understand how the hand works without reference? can you draw a hand straight out of your imagination?

[Anonymous No.2802078]

>>2802067
I've only been working on the book for a week, so obviously not. Before this I was doing skulls and working on construction so it will all come in time. On these hands I'm trying to get as much of the negative shapes and lines in my head as possible, and then draw them without looking.

I'll definitely work on drawing them from imagination, but maybe only after I've drawn hundreds of them. I noticed after drawing this model skull I have from a ton of different angles I'm able to do one without a ref, so I'm thinking it'll be the same for hands.

[Anonymous No.2802084]

>>2802034
Say it with me.

SYMBOL DRAWING

[Anonymous No.2802087]

>>2802078
You sound really scared of drawing from your imagination, take a break from studies once in a while and do something from imagination.
You will learn a lot from your own drawing, you can see what went wrong and what went right.

[Anonymous No.2802089]

>>2802084
really? a face is a symbol drawing? half the drawings you guys promote at the top of the thread ARE FACES

[Anonymous No.2802091]

>>2802089
You obviously don't know what symbol drawing is.

[Anonymous No.2802092]

>>2802034
>'artsy' angle
>pen on paper when it looks like the drawing was done with pencil
>'emphasis on eyes' portrait
>that hand
>in a sheet protector

social media website/10

[Anonymous No.2802094]

>>2802092
i put the pencil over my name lol

[Anonymous No.2802095]

>>2800870
You should post your work for better input but I would suggest Loomis's fun with a pencil. You'll gain more having done drawabox and KTTD then if you'd just started with him, and drawing his examples is a great way to apply what you've learned.

[Anonymous No.2802097]

>>2802089
How about this
>eyes are too big
>eyes are uneven
>left eye makes no sense at all
>right eye is just wrong
>eyebrows are wrong
>nose isn't wide enough
>face is from 3 different perspectives
>jaw is too short
>hand is broken in at least 4 places
>milk drinker
>signed a turd

[Anonymous No.2802098]

help

[Anonymous No.2802099]

>>2802094
>is on /beg/
>signs drawing
please attention seek somewhere else

[Anonymous No.2802100]

>>2802034
100% meme.

Copied from photograph (always lame).
Copied from shitty facebook picture no less.
Probably a girl you have a crush on who strings you along.

But enjoy your 72 likes on normiebook and the "wow ur so talented :)" from your unrequited love.

[Anonymous No.2802103]

>>2802034
This is why women shouldn't be allowed to hold a pencil.

[Anonymous No.2802106]

>>2802098
looks mostly correct to my shitty beginner eyes, what did you want an opinion on?

>freaked out a little bit because the file name was so similar to mine

[Anonymous No.2802107]

>>2801440
There's a lot of symbol drawing here, I would suggest reading Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, and then doing your portraits. It's a bit long winded but it will explain why your sketch is not so good.

[Anonymous No.2802117]

yes / no / cymbals / finish / kill myself?

[Anonymous No.2802123]

>>2802117
Eyes are BIG, try to work on your head shape.

[Anonymous No.2802124]

>>2802107
do I need to do every exercise or can I skip when I reach something I don't have the materials for?

[Anonymous No.2802127]

>>2802124
Well most of the materials you might not have is just a picture plane, and you can emulate that just by marking down the halfways on a picture you have saved on your computer. I've done all the exercises in it just with pencil and paper, so do all of them, and get the workbook if you can too (there's a torrent containing it on Piratebay)

[Anonymous No.2802128]

>>2802124
Read keys to drawing instead, all you need is your eyes and a pencil.

[Anonymous No.2802136]

>>2802117
fuck me, they are massive

[Anonymous No.2802142]

>>2802117
Your pencilwork is very pleasant, I can't wait until you get better at facial proportions.

[Anonymous No.2802144]

from a thread a little bit ago
why does the marker one look like a caveman

[Anonymous No.2802146]

>>2802098
keep going and see what happen. You have to finish shit and see shit. Gain experience by producing shit.

[Anonymous No.2802147]

>>2802067

Not that guy.

Is it really important to master everything? I see a lot of pros still relies on ref for parts they're not good at. Not everyone is KJG.

[Anonymous No.2802148]

>>2802144
loomis and keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.2802150]

Hey, I just started today with the basics. I think I'm getting the hang of it, I started with loomis. I'm using Krita, so could you please suggest me some good brushes to start off with? I'm currently using the basic ones. Also what do you think, will I make it or am I beyond hope?

[Anonymous No.2802151]

>>2802148
thanks

[Anonymous No.2802161]

>>2801862

quite nice. keep it up

[Anonymous No.2802163]

>>2801944
Go to art-station and study drawing of artist you like.

Here's some of my favorite. I don't know if it's exactly the aesthetic you're looking for.

https://www.artstation.com/artist/weiwangart
https://www.artstation.com/artist/bayardwu
https://www.artstation.com/artist/tooth
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Gabl1

[Anonymous No.2802172]

>>2802150

I've just started too, what I'm wondering is how big are you supposed to draw? The pictures in the book seem fucking tiny. I'm drawing them about 1.5 inches across but the results are hilariously bad when it gets even vaguley complicated.

[Anonymous No.2802181]

>>2802147
Of course not, the idea is that you have the core concept of the human body, when you have your perspective and proportions down you can start drawing the human body when you come around a problem you use reference to figure it out. You aren't supposed to use reference to copy everything you see on it you are trying to learn how things work, its good to do studies because it stays in your visual library, so when you face a problem later on you don't have to go and study it, you can just pull the knowledge out of your visual library.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5aNw492z4U

[Anonymous No.2802183]

>>2801895

You will only find it embarrassing when you come back to it later

[Anonymous No.2802184]

I was painting something randomly, the fairything was an afterthought.
I know I need to work on my anatomy, I'd be happier to hear what you think of the other parts of the picture.

[Anonymous No.2802186]

>>2802144
Because you are not drawing what you are seeing.

[Anonymous No.2802187]

>>2802172
Draw big

[Anonymous No.2802189]

>>2802161
thank you for the feedback!

[Anonymous No.2802191]

>>2802172
I started drawing tiny, but I soon realized that's not good. So try to draw bigger, even if it's uncomfortable at first.

[Anonymous No.2802200]

>>2802187

It makes sense I guess, I'm trying to save paper because I don't want to buy a graphics tablet only to later give up on my dreams and feel silly about the purchase afterwards

[Anonymous No.2802204]

Damn, multiplying boxes freehand is rough.

[Anonymous No.2802205]

>>2802200
>saving paper in 2017
Don't worry anon, it's for a good cause. Every minute there is more paper thrown away than you could use in all your life.
Use the cheap paper, not something like moleskine sketchbooks.

[Anonymous No.2802211]

>>2802200
First few years you should stay on paper, you can get your tablets when you are more confident in your art.
If you can't afford paper then don't buy sketchbooks those things can get expensive, get yourself just copier paper and a nice surface to draw on.

[Anonymous No.2802221]

>>2802184
you're not putting much thought into planes. you need to start more simple with broader and opaque strokes. you have way too many strokes that could represent anything. think about the silhouette of grass and not the general color of it. I have a hard time grasping the swamp and ground planes because of the messy strokes.
another big problem is your values. you need to have smooth transitions between your foreground middle and background. the values are too close so it makes it difficult to tell wheres what.

[Anonymous No.2802223]

>>2802211

YEARS?

I was hoping to be able to bang out something of this kind of level within year 1, I don't want to be a pro or anything.

I can see how tablets must make the use of construction lines etc so much easier by having it on different layers.

[Anonymous No.2802228]

>>2802200
A4 size printing paper. Cheap as fuck and if you know anyone who can get some at their workplace even better. Usually people don't care if you take them since they have a fuck tons of it. Do ask for permission first.

Use both side for your shitty practice drawing.

For tablet. Get it once you have a basic understanding of drawing. If your end goal is to do digital illustration and you can copy pretty much anything then start digital.

It'll take a while to learn the tools and about a month or so to get comfortable drawing with it.

Learning drawing while figuring out the tools and getting use to drawing with the tablet is NOT recommended. Focus on one thing at a time and the first thing is learning how to draw then you can learn how to draw digitally with a tablet.

[Anonymous No.2802233]

>>2802223
That's possible in your first year but it wont easy, you will have to dedicate most of your free time for art.
I got my first tablet when i finished my third year.

[Anonymous No.2802237]

>>2802221
Thank you.
I really am doing too many unnecessary brushstrokes without much thought. I'll try to be careful, but it's kinda hard to keep in control all the time.
I started with broader brushstrokes, but I might have got the values terribly wrong at that point already.

>you need to have smooth transitions between your foreground middle and background. the values are too close so it makes it difficult to tell wheres what.
Won't smooth transitions make it even harder to see what is what?

[Anonymous No.2802240]

>>2801736
Someone please?

[Anonymous No.2802258]

>>2802200
buy eco paper, or one made from wastepaper. It's also cheaper and it has a nice colour.

[Anonymous No.2802259]

Where is everyone downloading "perspective made easy"?

[Anonymous No.2802268]

>>2802237
by smoother i mean have objects that recede into the middle ground ect. theres nothing there so its hard to distinguish the planes.

[Anonymous No.2802269]

>>2802259

here, scroll down a little to find it
>>2781135

[Anonymous No.2802278]

>>2802269

Oh shit, I saw that thread and the anime picture and assumed it was a thread about art books, like, books full of art pictures.

Thanks fampai

[Anonymous No.2802281]

>>2802144
You are also symbol drawing. Those free Loomis books and other books would help

[Anonymous No.2802296]

>tfw first assignment for your drawing class is portraits
>tfw suck at portraits
How do I prepare?

[Anonymous No.2802303]

>>2802296
draw portraits

[Anonymous No.2802306]

>>2802204
Very nice looking lines.
Keep it up!
Keep aiming to push past your comfort zone.

[Anonymous No.2802310]

>>2802303
Makes sense really.

[Anonymous No.2802314]

>>2802161
blatant symbol drawing isn't nice

[Anonymous No.2802321]

>>2802303
i truly dont understand why people ask these sort of questions (when deep inside they know the answer)

[Anonymous No.2802322]

>>2802296
loomis

[Anonymous No.2802323]

>>2802321
>deep inside
is it so deep?

[Anonymous No.2802331]

>>2802306
Thank you anon, I will.

[Anonymous No.2802338]

>>2802184

Look at these example. Check their values in black and white and look at how they focus on the focal point. You can also use those foliage to guide the viewers into the focal point. See how they use the environment to guide the viewer to the focal point. Look at the vines, plants and animals pointing toward a direction.

This is something Dave Rapoza said. When you walk into a dark room and you open the door your eyes look directly at the most clearest and the brightest spot and blurred out everything else. This work for horror illustration for the shock value and also everything else. Maybe not as intense.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/6kdLO
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/BkrN8
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oJ5EL

[Anonymous No.2802357]

So I finally started reading Loomis, and I'm kind of lost on something.

The way I drew prior to taking his or any other instruction has my characters barely reaching the 6 head range. So standing tall with the legs shoulder width apart, it's around 6 1/4 for a 5'7" tall girl. While it's cartoon/anime-y though, it's still nowhere near close to the ideal 8 heads. And when doing it to his scale, it comes out kinda stretched out, whereas my other pieces "feel" right. What do?

[Anonymous No.2802364]

>>2802338
this is fine but im not sure its objective. its only one method to handhold the viewer in such a way. and creating an environ that doesnt necessarily have one artificial focal point can make it seem more real. this isnt hollywood, no need to make things less subtle.

its not wrong im just not sure its objectively correct in all situations.

[Anonymous No.2802370]

I'm wondering if it's ok to draw bijou, freehand circles from the wrist, where the narrower arc of space makes the lines more concise when drawing within them. The related picture is a small circle I drew from the wrist

[Anonymous No.2802394]

>>2802364
Of course. This is just what I thought of when I look at this illustration. There a lot of things you can do depending on the type of illustration you're going for. As we grasp more knowledge there's more things to play with.

[Anonymous No.2802399]

>>2802370
well if you wanna draw a tiny perfect circle for some reason then do it

[Anonymous No.2802406]

>when you fall for the Loomis meme
There's gotta be a better way to do this.

[Anonymous No.2802409]

>>2802406
>dat semicicle
practises ellipses

[Anonymous No.2802417]

>>2802240
Study chiaroscuro and sfumato techniques. You're still using lines when you should be using tones, shadows, and shifts in value. There aren't any lines in nature so it makes it look less natural. Study drawings by Renaissance painters to see how to suggest line rather than draw it.

>>2801338 is a good book for learning the basics of that.

[Anonymous No.2802431]

>>2801272
help me senpai, cause I know not what I'm doing. I tried constructing the hands but discovered that I am absolutely clueless. I can imagine the forms more or less accurately in my head, but it is really hard to project it on the paper. Any pointers on how to construct hands or what I should do generally?

[Anonymous No.2802443]

I'm running into a snag whenever I attempt to draw the head in a dramatically high or dramatically low angle. There may be some other discrepancies in my work but I can't tell; I proceeded to make 4 simplified skulls using the Loomis method but the foreshortening on the 4th skull makes it seem like all of the mass is different. Is there a line of action I can use for the tilt of the head, or do I acquire the information of its position through observation?

[Anonymous No.2802450]

>>2802443
Don't draw it smaller than the other heads.

If it helps get a stencil to draw the same exact sized base circle to begin with. Eventually you should stop using the stencil but it helps you spot flaws when you have the same size base circle for the head to start with using that method.

[Anonymous No.2802467]

FUCK.

[Anonymous No.2802469]

>>2802450
Thank you for the direction

I'll post the other heads I made today, but they were done with pencil, which meant the image had to be enhanced to get them to show better. I can find flaws with some of them, but I am not sure how to correct them. I'm thinking about studying the individual features before creating a full head at the angles I have little cognizance of how to use. If anyone has any suggestions then they're all welcome, even if they suggest that I should give up completely. I'll stop taking up thread room and get back to drawing

[Anonymous No.2802476]

>>2802443
red should be the same angle as blue no?
also make sure green is in the middle.

[Anonymous No.2802479]

>>2802467
kek
read the instructions, anon. try again.

[Anonymous No.2802480]

>>2802409
Your eyes are shifty.

>>2802467
Take your time and measure things.

[Anonymous No.2802485]

>>2802476
I'm not sure how I missed that but I'd like to thank you profusely. That was very instructional and helpful and presented in a nice simple manner

[Anonymous No.2802488]

why arent there tools in drawing software to speed up the process of plotting perspective lines? things like equal spacing in perspective takes a long time to plot and could be easily automated.

[Anonymous No.2802495]

>>2802488
There are.
Krita has it and some others do as well for sure.

[Anonymous No.2802497]

>>2802480
kek im not him but your ellipsis are really shit.

[Anonymous No.2802501]

>>2802495
nice
does photoshop have it?

[Anonymous No.2802502]

>>2802480
everything has a ton of problems. plan better

[Anonymous No.2802506]

>>2802488
There are.

[Anonymous No.2802521]

>>2802469
You're getting there. They are not that bad. Just keep going. At a certain point they will be second natuee. It's like riding a bike. It's all fucked up and difficult and then you can sort of ride but still have to pay attention...then....one day you forget you're even peddling and balancing. You just can ride and ride. Drawing happens like that. It just takes much longer to draw well than ride a bike fairly well.

Do you want to just ride or downhill red Bull challenge mountain bike on a cliff and live? It's all about practice and time. No...you don't have to draw 16 hours a day. Just think about everything you do and how it applies to what you have already tried or learned to try/do.

This attitude is how I learned to weld.

[Anonymous No.2802523]

>>2802467
>>2802479
>>2802480
I think I made a mistake somewhere.

[Anonymous No.2802526]

>>2802523
That's the entire page by the way.

[Anonymous No.2802527]

[Anonymous No.2802531]

>>2802527
neck too long
work on the connection of jaw and neck
work on facial structure, observe more.
nice lack of symbols though

[Anonymous No.2802535]

>>2802527
the head looks stretched. also your reference guy is looking a bit further down. otherwise id just recommend to make the values less muddy, really go into it.

[Anonymous No.2802569]

When I try to draw something by copying an image I can't get the size or distance between parts right what the fuck do I do?

[Anonymous No.2802600]

>>2800901
Day two exercise: face-vase and draw-upside-down-Jew exercises.

>roommate comes in making a shitload of noise right as I get to the head and destroys my concentration
Feels bad.

[Anonymous No.2802611]

>>2800916
The prominent problem here is symbol drawing. You drew your mind's construction of eyes and lips instead of problem solving how to draw light and shadow.

Also, you drew an actual line for the hairline.

Also, crosshatching is a great method for communicating shadow, but I'm not sure what you mean by pencil not being sufficient.

[Anonymous No.2802612]

Loomis... But not even close.

[Anonymous No.2802614]

this is more of a question, is there other great face construction methods, i like loomis i feel like the female and child face construction are lacking and i believe i could expand if knew other forms of construction.

[Anonymous No.2802633]

>>2802600
At least you fit the head in the picture.

[Anonymous No.2802647]

>>2802569
You have to take your time. The way I do it is start with a general blob in the shape of what you're drawing, start from one point (say the nose or something) work on that for a bit then move on to another part but use what you've drawn as the guideline for how far, what angle, what size and move on piece by piece.

I'm this guy >>2801188
That drawing is very much a work in progress and I've had to remeasure and erase/redraw a ton of stuff.

So basically
>take your time
>measure part by part rather than drawing everything at once
>keep redoing anything that looks wonky

[Anonymous No.2802669]

>>2802612
I like these

[Anonymous No.2802717]

>>2802611

Didn't realize that I was still effectively doing symbol drawing in those aspects. I'll study up and try not to let that issue persist.

With respect to the pencil not being sufficient, I meant by shading with the side of the lead. Getting a consistent dark shade was a bit difficult for me with that method, which is why I brought up crosshatching as a different approach.

Thank you for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.2802781]

[Anonymous No.2802786]

>>2802781
what is hair

[Anonymous No.2802827]

>See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMDsxakj7Ow&list=PLOq-SnwbtX9u231janaHRCo3tcTWshKML in a different thread
>Literally my first time trying to do this type of thing
>Speed poses
>Let's fucking go
>After the initial shock of "only 15 seconds to do this?" can literally see myself improving.
Fuck I'm starting to think this hard work > talent meme
And this was with no knowledge whatsover about proper technique.
How are you supposed to do these things? I see other anons posting far cleaner figure sketches so I know I'm doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.2802828]

>>2802827
Grab a download of prokos gesture videos

[Anonymous No.2802848]

just got a tablet, decided to goof around with mypaint and get the symbol drawing out of my system

conclusion: mypaint is pretty fun.

next step: loomis for days. wish me luck boys

[Anonymous No.2802850]

>>2802848
try >>2800766

[Anonymous No.2802868]

>>2802858
>>2802858
>>2802858

>>2802858
>>2802858
>>2802858

[Anonymous No.2803038]

>>2802521
You learnt to weld? That's a feat. Once again thank you for the direction

[Anonymous No.2803200]

>>2800181
>>2800459
Pls respond

[Anonymous No.2803204]

>>2803200
Without being able to see the horizon it's hard to tell but it looks right. Just go through it again and make sure you follow all the steps

[Anonymous No.2804231]

>>2800949
draw bigger to help fix both of these things.

[Anonymous No.2804234]

>>2801621
Can't really tell what it is.

[Anonymous No.2805499]

Just started sketching mechs, and it is a lot of fun. How am I doing?