Wacom intuos draw pad

[Anonymous No.2794909]

Hello anons, I received this for Christmas. I have never done any graphic design or drawing on a computer. I used to love sketching when i was a kid. So my question is, which is the best user friendly software for a complete newcomer to use ? I read a lot of people are using Adobe Illustrator.

If this is what you think i should use which edition am i looking for ?

Also what is the best/easiest to use photoshop version/edition ?

[Anonymous No.2794910]

>>2794909
P.S , I'd like to start trying to sketch some manga style comics. Also I would like to learn how to 'trace' photos of say, my girlfreind, and then color them with effects on computer if you know what i mean ? hope i am not sounding too retarded here but i am completely new to this.

[Anonymous No.2794925]

Clip Studio Paint.

[Giovanni Giano No.2795007]

Adobe Illustrator is a vector drawing application; it's not going to be good for free-hand drawing, then again with that baby tablet you won't be able to do much of that anyway.

Get Krita (https://krita.org/en/)), and then ditch that tablet before it ruins drawing for you forever

[Anonymous No.2795062]

>>2794910
>manga style comics
>tracing

how about you actually learn to draw?

[Anonymous No.2795229]

>>2795062
I know how to draw man, I think tracing is a valid artistic technique.

Also I hate drawing from reference, my old drawing teacher used to say that drawing from reference is only for people without talent.

[Anonymous No.2795236]

>>2795229
>Implying that drawing with reference is bad
>Talent
>Implying
Your teacher is retarded and so are you

[Anonymous No.2795298]

>>2795236
post your work, I'll prove that reference is bad and tracing is good

[Anonymous No.2795315]

>>2795229
>my old drawing teacher used to say that drawing from reference is only for people without talent.

He sounds like a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.2795335]

>>2795298
Tracing is for people with no talentmeme

[Anonymous No.2795340]

>>2794909
I would recommend photoshop as your basic drawing program. It's the industry standard in illustration and most forms of digital art, so it's easy to find resources for (guides, tutorials, etc.). That said, there are several useful programs, and they're all easy to use if you just want to draw/paint.

All versions of photoshop are basically the same for everything related to drawing and painting. It's the bigger special features and effects that got introduced over time.

>>2795229
>my old drawing teacher used to say that drawing from reference is only for people without talent.

You must have had the absolute worst teacher imaginable. Who was this "drawing teacher"? You mean a high school art teacher? As in, some guy with an AA in teaching, making just above minimum wage? Not an actual professional artist who actually knows what he's talking about?

Even if you only want to learn how to draw manga, you're going to have to study the human form to get decent looking proportions and everything. All of the decent manga artists have a pretty decent understanding of actual human anatomy, and you can see it in their work. To rephrase: anatomical studies, i.e., drawing from reference, is a requirement to drawing the human form, even if you're going to stylize it heavily.

No matter what form of art you're interested in, you're going to have to do studies if you want to be decent. Tracing can be a useful learning tool (used sparingly), but if you just want to screw around with tracing photos for its own sake and nothing else, that's not /ic/ appropriate subject matter.

[Anonymous No.2795371]

>>2795007
>ditch that tablet before it ruins drawing for you forever
Getting rid of a Christmas present upon receiving it is a dick move. Make do with what you have.

Buying a big expensive tablet as a beginner is probably not wise. It's best to become somewhat competent and serious about drawing first, then decide if the 300+ dollar investment makes sense. Else you're going to become like that beginner in that other thread who spent ~3000 dollars on an expensive screen tablet.

[Anonymous No.2795389]

>>2795340

[Anonymous No.2795405]

I've been learning to draw with that tablet and 27" screen for months now. Life is pain.

[Anonymous No.2795412]

>>2795007
>ditch that tablet before it ruins art for you forever
Wait what?
I've been drawing for some months with it and it has been fun all the way. Yeah the transition was hard, but from that point it has been great

(also I'm not posting work because I'm on mobile and recently lost a lot of drawings)

[Giovanni Giano No.2795415]

>>2795371
>Getting rid of a Christmas present upon receiving it is a dick move.

Holistically speaking I don't disagree, I'm not suggesting he make a big production out of it. He can still be grateful (it's the thought that counts, after all) while still being practical. Think of it like when someone gets you a really nice pair of pants but they don't quite fit. It's the same thing for the most part. If it's really come down to that thing I personally think it would be better to put those digital art dreams aside and focus on traditional instead for the time being. That thing reminds me of my old Graphire3 (https://www.cnet.com/products/wacom-graphire3/review/)) which was so unwieldy it killed my boner for digital art for the longest time, and I'm still butthurt over it to this day.

[Anonymous No.2795436]

>>2795007
>it ruins drawing for you forever
why not use that tablet to paint only

draw traditional, scan then paint on it like so many profesionals
kim hyung tae, tonytaka do this

[Giovanni Giano No.2795500]

>>2795405
Even the Intuos Large feels a little slippery on a monitor of that size. Goddamn son.

>>2795436
Not a bad workaround if you have a smartphone or a scanner already. Considering that under ideal circumstances you'll be drawing for several hours every day, using a tablet that wouldn't be adequate or feel natural on a 13-inch CRT monitor purchased in the late 90s in order to save a couple hundred bucks seems really counterproductive though.

[Anonymous No.2795505]

[Anonymous No.2795510]

>>2795007
nigga i used a tablet like that for 5 years.
i even use a cintiq at home but still switch back to that old tablet when i've traveled. its not good for your wrist if you're drawing in 5+ hour sessions but is fine for someone just getting started.

[Anonymous No.2795511]

>>2795229
>I know how to draw man, I think tracing is a valid artistic technique.
>Also I hate drawing from reference, my old drawing teacher used to say that drawing from reference is only for people without talent.

congrats you gave me cancer reading that

[Anonymous No.2795514]

>Wacom

[Anonymous No.2795523]

>>2794909
You could try firealpaca. It doesn't have millions of buttons and tabs to overwhelm you and it's rather small too. I think it'll be just right.

Also, don't mind the anons saying your pen tab is no good, they wouldn't be on shelves if they weren't at least ok to use

[Giovanni Giano No.2795654]

>>2795510
>nigga i used a tablet like that for 5 years.

Because of my personal goals I find the ability to draw free-hand extremely important, and I don't think it's something you've completely abandoned either, otherwise you wouldn't have rubber-banded from a $70 Intuos Draw to a $1000+ Cintiq, just like I essentially did the equivalent of at one time.

Nonetheless, without pressing you too much on what exactly you used it for that's five years you could have been using something much better (which would have been almost anything) in exchange for the equivalent of working a couple days at a menial job (depending on the country you're in, of course). Can you honestly say you wouldn't have spent a penny (give or take a couple hundred thousand) more on something that would have guaranteed you substantially better line accuracy and assured you faster artistic progression if you could do it all over again? I've been down basically the same road you have and you couldn't pay me to use one of those things again, let alone give me one for free.

It's just not worth it, man.

[Anonymous No.2795851]

>People memeing this hard

Can I just ask something? Is this about the brand? If OP had said he received a Huion would people still be sperging out like this?

The picture looks like a medium Intuos which I assume is perfectly fine to use on a regular monitor.

[Anonymous No.2795877]

>>2795340
This.
Also, while using reference try to focus not on the likeness but to ask yourself questions about why stuff look like they do and how could you reproduce them.
And remember: less is more.

[Anonymous No.2796057]

>>2795514
This has to be some sort of coping mechanism you have to justify your purchase. I'm not a fan of the "lmao u must b poor" argument but it's the only explanation as to why you would defend an inferior product.
Like, the benefit of wacom alternatives is the cheap price, that's a valid reason to buy it, but if you're going to pretend they're better then you are factually wrong and I implore you to reconsider. Having a skewed perception of reality will not help you as an artist.

[Anonymous No.2796176]

>>2796057
>this is what wacucks actually believe

[Anonymous No.2796181]

>>2796057
lol

[Anonymous No.2796202]

>>2795851
Having used a variety of tablets over the years, I will attempt to break it down. Wacom's entry level tablets are overpriced shit riding on a name and a 20 year monopoly. Huion has made 3 tablets that are better in every way and cost less and every day we are closer to someone making an intuos or a cintiq with all the features for half the price. Granted, chinktablets had been dogshit until about 5 years ago.

The one pictured is a small, I can tell by the pixels and having seen a few tablets in my time, so someone got it on sale for $79.99. That would net you a huion 1060 with twice the lpi (half the bamboos can't draw a straight line), three times the buttons and double the surface area.

Ignoring that, it's the eternal argument between anons who use and benefit from large tablets, and those who have carpal tunnel and stockholm syndrome from drawing on postage stamps.

[Giovanni Giano No.2796289]

>>2796057
I wouldn't say I'm rich but I'm not really poor either. When you don't have any expensive daily rituals like needing to be "blazed 24/7" or whatever not making a lot of money isn't a huge deal-at least if you live in a western country.

With regards to that picture the truth is a Huion Giano is like $70 more than Wacom's worst tablet (the one in OP) and it's in a lot of ways on par with or better than their best. It is superior to nearly every tablet both Wacom and Huion currently make and is extremely affordable besides. So long as it continues to be made available there is no reason to purchase one of Wacom's lesser models. If Huion continues going backwards like they have with their newest model the Inspiroy I could actually see the Giano going up in price on the used market.

[Anonymous No.2796297]

>>2796202

>The one pictured is a small, I can tell by the pixels and having seen a few tablets in my time, so someone got it on sale for $79.99. That would net you a huion 1060 with twice the lpi (half the bamboos can't draw a straight line), three times the buttons and double the surface area.

The OP's intuos draw is small only, but the one pictured is an intuos art/comic medium and is slightly smaller than the huion h610.

I recently buied an intuos art medium because the h610 I've tried were all defective, frustrating for line-art. Actually I fell the intuos more accurate, huions' defection aside (jitter drawing on some areas of the surface). Pressure feels different but not bad.

[Anonymous No.2796373]

>>2796289

The sad thing about the Inspiroy is that it's industrial design and build quality seem like a decent jump from the 1060plus and Giano

[Giovanni Giano No.2796467]

>>2796297
Whether it's a small or a medium doesn't matter much; neither of them are particularly good-that includes their Huion equivalents the H610/H1060. They're too small to provide anywhere near that key 1:1 drawing surface/display surface facsimile. Anyone even remotely serious about drawing should not be concerned with saving <$100, considering both the benefits of using a superior product and with how easily something bought these days can then be sold.

>Pressure feels different but not bad.

It's not BAD-bad but it is substantially worse than Wacom's. Is it worth the extra $150 to get an Intuos Large instead of a Giano just for pen-tilt and marginally better sensitivity? Hell, maybe. It's the Giano however, not the Intuos Small or Medium or any other Huion or Wacom tablet that makes a far better "starter tablet" than those lesser ones on either side that don't work in any manner that's similar to a traditional drawing surface.

>>2796373
I agree, it's all style and no substance though. It's got this dubious touchpad, it's got an aluminum metal base plate for no reason in particular, and it's appreciably smaller while being like $10 cheaper than the Giano, and around $70 more expensive than the H1060 which is its functional equivalent. How many more 10 x 6.25 tablets does the market need?

[Anonymous No.2796473]

>>2796289
Mine looks like that but instead its got minus signs infront of them. what does that mean

[Anonymous No.2796479]

Is Painter Essentials 5 good? My tablet came with it.

[Anonymous No.2796480]

I'm poorfag and this thread convinced me updgrading from Bamboo small to Bamboo medium. Also, gookshit has shit feedback from artists everywhere. Wacom has monopoly for a reason.

[Anonymous No.2796487]

>>2794909
this is the ultimate meme machine, some of the greatest fun is fucking around on photoshop and just creating such absurdness.

[Anonymous No.2796564]

>>2796487
>'memes'

That's nice. Most of us here are interested in drawing though.

[Anonymous No.2796597]

>>2795229
>I think tracing is a valid artistic technique

[Anonymous No.2796686]

>>2795340
To be honest, I use references, and my art comes out okay. As an aspiring art teacher, I'd have to agree with you, seeing as most artists have to have a basic understanding of anatomy for them to become great. Even with my art style, which heavily focuses on cartooning, I need to work more on anatomy.

[Anonymous No.2797237]

>>2796202
>and those who have carpal tunnel and stockholm syndrome from drawing on postage stamps.

shouldn't have laughed this hard

[Anonymous No.2797557]

>>2795415
>graphire3
Oh man, I had the exact same thing many years ago. I think it was its own special kind of terrible.

[Anonymous No.2798339]

>>2794909


I have a bamboo the ones that Wacom don't sell anymore.

How are OPs and bamboo different ? Do those holes have a dent feel when you trace over it ? And what are those side buttons?

[Anonymous No.2798909]

>>2796480
>Also, gookshit has shit feedback from artists everywhere. Wacom has monopoly for a reason.
This is the only reason I'm afraid to consider any wacom alternative. I used a few competitor tablets along the years and they all were much worse than a wacom, they died so fast. My Intuos works perfectly even after 6 years of use, wouldn't be surpised if it'll survive a decade.

I don't want to get an expensive product that will die within a year or two.

[Anonymous No.2798922]

>>2795229
>Also I hate drawing from reference, my old drawing teacher used to say that drawing from reference is only for people without talent.
>so I trace because I'm too talented for reference
>tfw too talented to draw

[Anonymous No.2798926]

>>2796473
You're european

[Anonymous No.2799060]

I got one of these for Christmas too OP. I also got a Wacom bamboo duo for my phone. I almost like the pen more haha.

I am a pro, but I do fx texture and material work with it so it doesn't really have to be amazing. It perfectly does what I need it to.

[Anonymous No.2799890]

>>2798926
kek