/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:01:12 2016 No.2785390 [Reply] [Original]

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead (I recommend ShareX)

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

OLD THREAD: >>2782100

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:01:23 2016 No.2785391 File: 51 KB, 550x825, 30d26908b2bd89824a048f6378812ab1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:02:43 2016 No.2785398 File: 27 KB, 600x478, f679b8fc63d3998e6efb128b32258a91.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:03:00 2016 No.2785399 File: 33 KB, 400x600, 2fd3039df7887707f4d01992bd2e5213.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:03:16 2016 No.2785400 File: 25 KB, 400x600, ed15c44bf272591df54d94bea5d5d941.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:06:08 2016 No.2785407 >>2785391 What a fucking mongoloid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:06:28 2016 No.2785408 >>2785407 cute mongoloid

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:10:10 2016 No.2785409 >>2785407 holy shit /beg/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:11:40 2016 No.2785410 >>2785408 >cute >looking like it has an extra chromosome Pick one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:13:18 2016 No.2785413 >>2785410 Korean

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:14:17 2016 No.2785416 File: 189 KB, 1440x2560, 2016-12-20 18.13.18.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785391 >>2785407 >>2785408 >>2785409 >>2785410 >>2785413 How's my redline sketch of her?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:26:35 2016 No.2785426 >>2785390 Anyone have the OP reference?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:34:49 2016 No.2785434 >>2785426 >>2782111

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:41:02 2016 No.2785440 >>2785390 That's one hell of an awful boobjob

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:54:44 2016 No.2785453 >>2785434 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:05:45 2016 No.2785461 File: 748 KB, 700x800, mordor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] do my values and colors look okay on this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:21:59 2016 No.2785478 >>2785416 Made me blow air rapidly out of my nose

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:23:13 2016 No.2785480 >>2785478 Kek. As long as someone enjoyed it

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:39:46 2016 No.2785498
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first time poster
this was an attempt at a female figure from imagination, no reference
I sketched with a blue pencil before using pen, obviously scanner didn't pick it up

ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:43:45 2016 No.2785500 all my creatures end up looking evil. i just want to draw cute things

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:48:35 2016 No.2785505 Not sure where else I could ask this but could I take pictures and sorta draw from them versus actually drawing everyday life things? I feel sorta weird just taking a pencil and paper out in public and drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:51:32 2016 No.2785511 >>2785505 Yes, use photos. Just go in understanding that you won't capture the depth of what you're drawing as well as you could in person. I'd say do both, fuck what other people think as long as you're not being a degenerate faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:53:55 2016 No.2785513 >>2785505 What exactly is weird about it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:58:53 2016 No.2785518 >>2785513 You're probably an autist and going to go give some horrible/creepy sketch to a girl with your number on it and hope she calls back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 22:01:15 2016 No.2785521 >>2785518 This will only work if you have Ruan Jia-tier skill. I will work towards this goal now, thank you.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 22:08:53 2016 No.2785526

>>2785498
Not a bad attempt but the anatomy is pretty off in most places. The breasts are too low, even for a naturally hanging look. Shoulders are lopsided, they don't look like they're tilted yet properly aligned. No anatomy in the hips, the arms are bent at an incredibly awkward angle and I don't want to try explaining what's wrong with the legs. Everything lacks the illusion of 3D form as well. Some nice line work but much study is still needed before you'll draw a more convincing body without reference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:00:15 2016 No.2785570 File: 890 KB, 1000x1253, SKULLNMUSCLESTUDYFINALsmall.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying skull and muscle face study

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:01:17 2016 No.2785571 File: 566 KB, 1545x1276, IMG_20161220_0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some attempts at perspective stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:01:48 2016 No.2785572 >>2785407 back to /pol/ plz

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:02:01 2016 No.2785573 >>2785570 Neat

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:05:39 2016 No.2785576 >>2785571 Pretty great :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:18:07 2016 No.2785588 >>2785407 you're cancer. Enjoy obscurity you wretch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:19:37 2016 No.2785590 >>2785571 good job anon now do ten more!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:21:03 2016 No.2785591 >>2785570 I've always been confused by the word study. Did you use an artists piece as a reference or several images depicting muscular and skeletal anatomy? Also what did you learn from this piece and how is it going to help you going forward?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:21:12 2016 No.2785592 has anyone here read jojos? doesnt the art have tons of fundamental flaws? am i mad?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:26:09 2016 No.2785595 >>2785588 Kek. You must be some fugly asian

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:31:15 2016 No.2785600
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>>2785573
thank u bro

>>2785591
no i just saw this ref posted a while back and did my best to paint it

i dont really know the exact definition of study either but i always figured it meant copying/replicating something while "studying" it - looking at the anatomy, lighting and so on. thats a good idea with the several images thing ill try that next time

it helped me understand the bones, muscle and overall underlying structure of the face a lot better

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:33:27 2016 No.2785602 File: 2.47 MB, 2560x1920, ivy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how would you go about drawing foliage like this? i dont mean the individual leaves i mean the stuff as a whole, like half a wall of it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:46:32 2016 No.2785612 >>2785602 resizing it down to 1k pixels so all the detail is lost

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:47:39 2016 No.2785613 >>2785602 Learn texture

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:49:23 2016 No.2785614 >>2785613 any synonyms for that? texture is a bit vague. alternatively, any good pdfs on it out there?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:50:09 2016 No.2785616 File: 42 KB, 1000x562, Default work.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785390

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:54:13 2016 No.2785617

how should one handle having a 'fragmented' piece from imagination but its imcomplete. for example, you have a really specific detailed head for a creature design you think is really cool but you mind is completely blank and cant visualize the rest of the body. it should be okay to work on just the head right?

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:56:33 2016 No.2785618

>>2785617
I would suggest looking at a bunch of photos of creatures for inspiration and doing some studies of them to help you get ideas. Then do a few sketches of ideas for your original character. Things always look better when developed all at once rather than pieced together as you go along.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:57:00 2016 No.2785619

>>2785617
if you have creature as a whole but can only visualise the head, i think its the case that you also can visualise the rest. simply try harder.

close your tabs
close your eyes
close your ears
give it a minute or two just attempting it.

alternatively you only have the head, just do what fits.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:04:59 2016 No.2785626

>>2785619
good idea ill just get the head down and take a break and let it come to me later.

>>2785618
i tried doing that, my problem is i want the head to be high up with lots of body beneath the head so it literally looks down on you condensationally sorta like a t rex but i was it to have lots of mass directly behind it and above to, like a triceratops. shit makes no sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:05:39 2016 No.2785627 >>2785595 nah im a fugly nigger. But nice try commie

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:07:36 2016 No.2785630 >>2785627 Calling me a commie? Dude what? I'm an American lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:08:31 2016 No.2785633 >>2785630 nice try shekelstein

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:10:30 2016 No.2785639

>>2785626
Well if it's a really out there design all the more reason you should try to flesh it out as a whole rather than piece by piece unless you want some kind of effect of looking like it's stitched together or something. If you don't do studies of real creatures to help, which I still think you should to get extra detail, maybe you could look at some more abstract creature designs like from Monsters Inc or something like that to see how they've handled balancing what would be unbalanced creatures.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:12:22 2016 No.2785641 >>2785639 >abstract creature designs like from Monsters Inc or something like that to see how they've handled balancing what would be unbalanced creatures. i think this is exactly what i need. thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:14:56 2016 No.2785643 >>2785633 But I'm catholic...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:15:45 2016 No.2785644 File: 1.54 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (10).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when you start planning shit after doing nothing but freehanding

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:16:53 2016 No.2785646 >>2785644 >when you can't draw

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:17:05 2016 No.2785647 >>2785643 sand cultists are all the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:20:52 2016 No.2785650 >>2785647 Well its more of a "catholic" kind of thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:40:51 2016 No.2785661 >>2785616 what?Gesture practice, Figure practice? What do you want ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:42:14 2016 No.2785662 >>2785614 Please exscuse anons vagueness. You should do a texture study, where you try to recreate the texture using the medium of your choice. I would do several attempts and compare each to the original image and make changes accordingly!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:09:26 2016 No.2785680 File: 1.05 MB, 1100x727, study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the cutest thing i've seen in a long time. I hate that i'm shit at art though,

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:11:07 2016 No.2785681 >>2785680 your one is actually cuter than the real one

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:17:49 2016 No.2785685 >>2785680 Nice direct paint over

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:19:32 2016 No.2785689 >>2785685 sorry to hear that you have no any amount of draw skills

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:20:59 2016 No.2785691 >>2785680 if you're shit, then what does that say about the rest of us hurhur?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:21:50 2016 No.2785692 >>2785685 if you think this is that good, your work but be below shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:25:37 2016 No.2785693 >>2785680 >made the eyes larger relative to face and the gap smaller >made the face slightly thinner failed to capture her ugliness, NGMI

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:26:53 2016 No.2785694 >>2785693 intentional probably.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:00:59 2016 No.2785714 File: 100 KB, 800x401, trumpvssanctuarycites.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] alright so i did this, go ahead and paint or is anything stupid wrong with it? i still need to do more to the creature on the bottom left

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:04:13 2016 No.2785718 >>2785714 lol at the perspective on the thing sticking out of the ground there

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:13:18 2016 No.2785720 >>2785718 are you talking about the ledge? ill just draw it out so theres an even gap across the two ledges. or is it the 3circle things? my justification is its bendings its 'neck' to the side so that i dont have to fix my sloppy perspective work

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:14:38 2016 No.2785721 File: 857 KB, 1754x1276, IMG_20161220_0002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still trying to figure things out, but this is fun. Just downloaded the Ctrl Paint videos on perspective in the Video Thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:14:41 2016 No.2785722 >>2785720 whatever that thing with three heads is

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:16:39 2016 No.2785723 >>2785722 oh okay its supposed to be a carapace but i havent really thought out the rest of the creature. i guess ill fix it then

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:17:10 2016 No.2785725 File: 403 KB, 1920x1080, Etqzh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have no internet at home, but I can download youtube videos now who's figure drawing series should I download also I dont have much time so please hurry up!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:26:02 2016 No.2785731 >>2785725 loomis especially his book about drawing hands

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:26:56 2016 No.2785732 >>2785731 haha i actually have that book but thank you

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:42:31 2016 No.2785739 burnt out on figures burnt out on faces can do perspective adequately. shit lads, what am i practising?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:43:55 2016 No.2785740 >>2785739 colours?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:54:03 2016 No.2785744 >>2785740 i dont do digital so no

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:56:39 2016 No.2785745 >>2785725 scott robertsons how to draw.(its on perspective)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:58:13 2016 No.2785746 >>2785744 Why do you have to do digital to do color?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 03:02:16 2016 No.2785750 >>2785746 doing colour with pencils is a fools errand imo. digital is 1000x better for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 03:15:34 2016 No.2785760 File: 114 KB, 1000x506, what the fuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this ugly motherfucker sitting in perspective properly? how bout his proportions? thanks /beg/, love you guys

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 03:29:25 2016 No.2785770 >>2785760 The whole body is in 3/4ths view but just its head is a side profile. >his proportions They're what ever you want them to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 03:35:18 2016 No.2785772 >>2785750 Have you considered any kind of paint? Lots of people like watercolor for quick color on sketches. I used to use acrylic, myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 03:42:59 2016 No.2785777 >>2785772 i eventually plan to use digital so no im not interested in learning traditional paint.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:09:55 2016 No.2785796 >>2785777 Learning coloring and rendering in traditional media could go a very long way in learning to color digitally, but I can tell you've got your mind made up. Good luck to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:15:35 2016 No.2785805 >>2785796 i personally believe that my efforts are better spent elsewhere currently but thanks for the considerations. still at a loss rn tho, i even drew animal heads today. not sure what im going to do tomorow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:17:14 2016 No.2785809 >>2785805 Draw them again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:15:13 2016 No.2785850 File: 560 KB, 939x1200, glare - Copy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Crit? Esp on how to make brushwork less hectic looking?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:17:35 2016 No.2785852 >>2785850 are you going for realism or cuteness? lips a bit smaller if cuteness. nose looks like its slightly in the wrong direction. ear too big maybe?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:20:23 2016 No.2785853 File: 88 KB, 500x750, 1457921522392.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785852 she has Huge ear

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:22:34 2016 No.2785856 >>2785853 my crit about the nose i think was wrong. looks aight, try smoothing it now.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:27:06 2016 No.2785862

>>2785856
That is my problem, no matter how many times i "blend" the values together it always looks like that, i dont know if it's a porblem with my hardness of the brush or flow or what, i watch youtube artists on how they blend and somehow it looks super smooth

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:32:53 2016 No.2785872 >>2785862 lower the opacity to make smaller changes i assume.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:12:09 2016 No.2785899 >>2785680 Hello Vetyr :3

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:26:22 2016 No.2785902 File: 102 KB, 510x1000, 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2782111 >>2785390 Good morning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:28:37 2016 No.2785907 >>2785902 gross

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:32:02 2016 No.2785909 >>2785902 unironically: Keys to Drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:35:20 2016 No.2785913 >>2785902 Holy kek that's bad also what anon said >>2785909 Also a ton Loomis and books in the sticky. You'll make it bud just keep at it. At least it's not a stick figure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:40:03 2016 No.2785918 >>2785902 awful

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:44:53 2016 No.2785920 File: 104 KB, 500x354, walking-into-the-sunset.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785907 >>2785909 >>2785913 >>2785918 Thanks guys. The road ends here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:48:23 2016 No.2785923 >>2785920 hopefully the road to the wrong direction ends here the journey starts here

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:06:01 2016 No.2785928 >>2785850 >>2785852 there actually is an issue with the nose. you drew her nostrils the wrong way which is making the bulp tip part off and inturn the rest of the bridge

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:07:04 2016 No.2785929 >>2785928 also its too small

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:11:54 2016 No.2785930 >>2785928 >>2785929 thats for cuteness sake i think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:43:19 2016 No.2785940 File: 35 KB, 780x438, 160927210830-tk-ah0927-exlarge-169.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it cheating when i use these pre made brushes for rendering?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:04:19 2016 No.2785947 >>2785940 yes, delete them now you faker

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:26:31 2016 No.2785969 File: 437 KB, 777x1599, hpscan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] haven't really drawn anything since I was 12 is there any merit to this piece?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:27:09 2016 No.2785971 File: 523 KB, 434x826, Screenshot 2016-12-21 23.25.49.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2782111 lol wtf - also pray for me

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:34:54 2016 No.2785973 File: 142 KB, 447x919, hpscan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785969 this is closer to the actual size I draw btw, it's zoomed in there which shows more the lack of detail

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:37:27 2016 No.2785975 File: 119 KB, 564x866, 1221160534_HDR-600x1067-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first gouache portrait study. pls does it look like her? yes i know i can,refine the hair but my brush blow ass

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:38:46 2016 No.2785976 File: 1.01 MB, 1029x1440, a0890389f85d80f85d2f597f09879601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785975 and the ref

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:47:56 2016 No.2785982 >>2785975 the eyes are off and her real face is more round, see jaws

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:48:24 2016 No.2785983 >>2785975 it doesn't immediately register as scarlet johansson to me, no. the colors are fine and it's not god awfully terrible but study anatomy and do some sketches before your next painting.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:52:53 2016 No.2785989

>>2785982
>>2785983
yeah youre right. looking at the tumbnails i can see her face is elongated in my painting. and the jaw is sharper. not sure how that happened considering i check my outline over the monitor and everything lined up. i must have been off a slight bit and messed it up even more when i started painting. ooh well. im satified for it being my first gouache portrait. thanks for the feedback

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:57:40 2016 No.2785994 File: 1.65 MB, 2250x1000, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I dont understand colors. I have a good grasp on values yet colors are such fucking pain in the ass I dont want do to anything there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:00:32 2016 No.2785997 >>2785994 you have it completely backwards you retard. your colors are fine but youre lacking in value ranges. dont be afraid to go dark

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:02:54 2016 No.2785999 >>2785994 Try to make a grayscale version of that image, then turn the image grayscale to see how close you are, you may be surprised.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:03:55 2016 No.2786001

>>2785994
also her hair needs to come closer in on her face. like her face is too wide. and back to the vales. when you bring the hair on the left side of,her,face closer in youll notice the VALUES need to be darker. and i lied a bit about the colors. her skin could have a few more reds in it but skin is compicated anyways

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:04:03 2016 No.2786002 >>2785997 >>2785999 I mean I am good at values when I do shit in grayscale. Of course my values are shit with colors, because I dont understand it at all.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:10:14 2016 No.2786008

>>2786002
well you do see that some areas are clearly lighter than they should be yes? the area under the chin on her neck,is,a good example. also literally eyeliner, which by defination is a fucking black line is missing. its stuff like that. overall your colors arent bad you just need a greater value range. if you really need to youre allowed to cheat and use the color picker to see how accurate your colors are

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:15:38 2016 No.2786011 >>2786008 Okay, thanks. Should I read Color and Light by James Gurney to understand it better or should I just grind color pieces

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:18:13 2016 No.2786016 >>2786011 ive read and honestly its okay i guess but ive heard anons on here say bad thinkgs about it that i can empathize with

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:21:34 2016 No.2786018

>>2786011
oh and yes always do colors. the trick is finding good refs to study from. pics are so photoshopped that youre not,studying how,color actually works. for example my gouache painting just above. the scarjew ref is obviously shopped but since i know enough about how skin colors work i was able to work around it.
.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:23:34 2016 No.2786019 File: 385 KB, 770x904, P61221-151925.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785393 I don't understand what is wrong, can anyone help me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:26:06 2016 No.2786023 >>2786019 no construction whatsoever. loomis

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:38:31 2016 No.2786033 >>2785760 >perspective if you're worried about perspective it might be useful to put down an appropriate horizon line, or perspective grid on the ground etc. etc.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:41:37 2016 No.2786036

>>2785850
>how to make brushwork less hectic looking
I like your chunky brush style Anon. But if you want, just go over the piece with a softer low opacity brush and smooth out any unnecessary edges you see. It takes practice to figure out a good balance of soft blending and harder edges between values.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:46:26 2016 No.2786041

>>2785940
no, the right brushes can save you a shit ton of time if you know what you're doing with them. Texture brushes are the most useful imo. However if you overuse brushes that stamp trees or grass or whatever, it'll look lazy and bad if it's too obvious

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:48:34 2016 No.2786045 >>2785971 >>2785973 >>2785902 why do beginners refuse to draw/show construction lines?

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:59:21 2016 No.2786055

>>2785770
Thank you, I see now that everything reads flatter than it should. The head looks like a profile when my intention was to make it look tilted back, almost as if looking up like a bird would, or off in the distance with contempt. I think it's only a matter of fixing the jawline and showing more of the inside of the mouth. When I was drawing them, I treated it as one box when I should have treated it as multiple

as for the body, I have made a similar mistake. I was aiming for it to be in 3/4rths but angled down, as if we were looking more down at the beast. I need to alter it's back, I assume, to give it that feeling

I posted this before I went to bed after a really long day and worded my questions wrong. When I said proportions, I think I was just talking about the features in general. My biggest concern with this, aside from its proper construction, is that it is interesting
>>2786033
my underdrawing has the proper perspective lines, I guess I just worded that question wrong as well, I wanted to make sure everything looks like it's grounded on the same plain. That the beast was solid.

thank you for both of your help, I'm on my way to go alter its body to add visual interest. Any feedback about anything else is deeply appreciated

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 10:00:57 2016 No.2786057 >>2785680 The Mouth is off-angle

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 10:24:43 2016 No.2786085 File: 184 KB, 440x600, scan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2782101 i know it doesn't look like her

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 10:42:48 2016 No.2786107

Can someone recommend a good book for learning construction? I'm good at drawing still life/copying reference images, and I understand basic perspective. I want to start drawing from imagination, and getting more creative with reference pictures instead of just directly copying them. I will also start studying figure drawing/anatomy.

Also, what is your opinion on "How to Draw" by Scott Robertson?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 11:36:43 2016 No.2786180 File: 1.43 MB, 2480x3424, SCAN0018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Nose Bro Wed Dec 21 11:49:13 2016 No.2786209 >>2785899 thats not vetyr by a long run kill yourself desu kohai

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 11:51:51 2016 No.2786215

>>2785680
Wow this very nice...like the way you pulled out color

Only major crit I think is the area between eyebrows and eye looks sloppy, and it throws off the area just to the left of the right eye(viewers perspective). And ear looks bit too big and off angle

Do you use Corel Painter? I very much like your style

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 11:53:16 2016 No.2786216 >>2785661 Are you asking me a question

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:17:42 2016 No.2786251 >>2785681 >>2785685 >>2785693 >>2786215 I wasn't expecting this feed back, thank you very much. >>2786215 I painted this in krita.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:23:36 2016 No.2786261 >>2786209 ofc it is you nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:44:01 2016 No.2786290 >>2785391 where did you find these godly refs?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 13:15:11 2016 No.2786323 >>2785940 The real issue is that it might help you try to compensate a lack of rendering skills with fancy brushes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 13:52:30 2016 No.2786362 File: 197 KB, 640x850, fullsizeoutput_157.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can't shake the feeling that this looks cartoony. Am I still symbol drawing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 15:10:03 2016 No.2786439 File: 6 KB, 227x225, 1454275531929.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw your stuff is bad but at least you tried.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 15:48:52 2016 No.2786473 >>2786439 If its one thing i learned from /ic/ its that even how bad one of your try was, always post it in the beginner thread because they have always something to say that will help you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 15:52:00 2016 No.2786475 >>2786362 well, you're a little bit better than me. so maybe no. cant post art cuz got no pictures of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 15:58:14 2016 No.2786480 >>2786085 You are symbol drawing. you need to break down and understand the 3d forms of the feature of the face. Don't be afraid to draw construction lines. read loomis or watch proko's facial features videos to get started

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:03:13 2016 No.2786483 >>2786362 >Am I still symbol drawing? No you are not. Good job anon. If you post the source you can probably get more useful crit.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:08:42 2016 No.2786494

>>2786362
Can't tell without the ref, but there's a pretty stark contrast between the pupils and the whites of the eyes which makes me think there's still a liiiiiittle bit of symbol drawing going on. Same goes for the very segmented ringlets of hair and beard. But again, maybe it does look that way in the ref. The basic idea is to not draw what "should" be there (ie very clearly delineated pupils/lips/hair).

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:23:11 2016 No.2786511 File: 2.40 MB, 1322x964, william final.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2786473 even if it's this bad? /ic/ kept saying "finish your drawings, render shit, take it to completion" well for the first time I did. am I a better artist for it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:27:23 2016 No.2786516 >>2786511 there's a threshold for that saying especially when you're still symbol drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:33:03 2016 No.2786523 >>2786480 alright thanks for the feedback

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:40:42 2016 No.2786529 >>2786511 You should NEVER and I mean EVER complete a drawing if your sketch/linework is not good enough. First fix that, it didnt work out? Fix it again, FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT, till its PERFECT. then u complete ur drawing by coloring it in etc.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:43:20 2016 No.2786532

Guys, I'm seriously asking, how can I actually start drawing? Like I'm trying to follow this tutorial, but it just looks so much nothing like the original that it makes me want to cry. How can I convince myself that if I keep on trying it'll look better?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:45:01 2016 No.2786534 File: 203 KB, 780x788, Sketch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How'd I do? I want to start doing drawing over this sketch, but it feels too "manga-ish" to me, no clue how to fix it

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:47:39 2016 No.2786537

>>2786532
what tutorial? you should probably be starting with keys to drawing. keep in mind that you're going to suck for a long time but remind yourself that the more work you put in the better you'll get. the beginning is rough but you can improve anon, believe in the Zhu that believes in you.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:49:58 2016 No.2786538

>>2786532
Same here, all the guides I have read all include "comicbook"-style characters and the videos that I have seen on youtube have artists that do mediocre or shit drawings at best, the mediocre artists do it fully by using references, barely any imagination. Which makes me quite sad that being a "excellent" artist someday is something that a tiny fragment of people can attain

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:57:59 2016 No.2786541 >>2786534 > "manga-ish" the fuck does this even mean you weeb

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:58:15 2016 No.2786542

>>2786537
First I followed drawabox.com, and now I started Proko's how to draw people video series. I get the feeling that even if I understand that I should break down what I see to lines and curves, I just can not do it. Maybe I just suffer from symbol drawing, I don't know. I don't even know how much should I practice and how. Should I draw as the tutors draw? Then I just end up copying their image instead of paying attention to the original.

The best I could describe this feeling is being silenced: I want to express myself but I'm unable to do so and it drives me mad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:01:04 2016 No.2786546 >>2786542 Listen faggots, you don't learn the same day. Draw, apply yourself, think about what you're drawing, and sleep well. Repeat for a few days, and you'll wake up finding that the shit you did a few days earlier is now a breeze.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:07:07 2016 No.2786550 >>2786541 That it doesn't look like a "realistic" drawing, as some of the drawings I have seen pop up in this thread. Not talking about the stereotypical manga drawing but still close to that kind of thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:09:24 2016 No.2786553 >>2786550 Well congratulations, it fits into the berserk/mushashi category. Keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:11:45 2016 No.2786554 >>2786553 Keep what up? I already implied I don't want to draw like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:16:53 2016 No.2786558 >>2786534 force yourself to draw the lines in one motion instead of scribbling hold the pencil near the middle

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:16:55 2016 No.2786559

>>2786554
Too bad, you're a minority of semi-realist manga artists. Render well and it won't matter. If you have a problem with it fuck you, I wish I illustrated like that but no I had to end up being a fucking painter when all I wanted was dank linework. Piss off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:25:02 2016 No.2786565 fucking eyes FUCK

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:42:15 2016 No.2786593

>>2786558
I'll try doing that, thanks. I already try practicing doing single lines instead but they always end up scribbling, will try practicing from the middle now.

>>2786559
I was only looking for criticism as it is the point of this thread, if you want to draw like semi-realist manga artists i'd suggest try practicing drawings from those artists you named before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:08:18 2016 No.2786617 >>2785391 more loomis

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:35:48 2016 No.2786647 File: 117 KB, 1000x1250, Head007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785391

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:56:01 2016 No.2786666 >>2785500 post your demons

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:58:28 2016 No.2786671 Is there some way I can take male and female skulls/faces and rotate them in 3d space? Like a realistic 3d model through flash or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:01:25 2016 No.2786676 >>2786671 http://www.boneroom.com/store/c56/Normal_Human_Skulls.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:02:28 2016 No.2786679 >>2785680 >>2786251 Blog? What brushes did you use in Krita please?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:20:10 2016 No.2786711 File: 1.18 MB, 600x1066, dib2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785391

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:21:59 2016 No.2786719 File: 147 KB, 700x984, dib1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785393

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:53:51 2016 No.2786766
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>>2786679
should i really make a blog? i don't think i'm ready yet.
I'd like to build up my body of artwork first if that's ok.
I mostly just sketch and study idk if that's boring..

brushes:
>basic_block
>Basic_tip_gaussian

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:00:35 2016 No.2786774 >>2786290 portraitsfordrawing tumblr

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:05:21 2016 No.2786780 >>2786719 >>2786711 >lined paper Good job trying but get some flat white stuff at least even if it's cheapo printer paper.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:09:24 2016 No.2786783 >>2786719 https://www.amazon.com/Sax-Plain-White-Newsprint-Newspaper/dp/B00ABY6B7G/ref=sr_1_2?s=arts-crafts&ie=UTF8&qid=1482368855&sr=1-2&keywords=newsprint 500 sheets for like $ 8

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:17:09 2016 No.2786795 >>2786780 >>2786783 not him but what's wrong with lined paper

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:19:58 2016 No.2786798

>>2786795
It's going to fuck with your ability to look at the drawing. Especially sketches. Harder to critique the image with lines muddying it up more.

If you're a good artist it doesn't matter but just starting out the less distraction the better. Cheap white printer paper probably costs less too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:24:05 2016 No.2786803 >>2786719 >>2786711 You're still symbol drawing. Read the sticky.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:24:43 2016 No.2786805 Does anyone have good videos on measuring? I can't redraw shit in keys to drawing because I keep making things bigger than they appear

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:26:23 2016 No.2786807 >>2786805 Draw them upside down and maybe try grid lines that you can erase to start out. Don't rely on grids

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:27:15 2016 No.2786810 >>2786805 http://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/ Go through all of this and have your eye metaphorically opened.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:29:17 2016 No.2786813

>>2786798
>>2786780
I always see people say this but when I was just starting out lined paper helped me out a lot. I started by copying other images and I was able to use the lines to more objectively measure where things were. I could draw lines across the image I was copying to see where things lined up, like the eyes for instance, and could make sure those lined up on my drawing. It was a pseudo grid system and worked well for me in terms of building observational skill.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:37:49 2016 No.2786827 >>2786810 that website is a fucking mess

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:39:00 2016 No.2786828 >>2786827 who gives a fuck about the website? the videos are helpful

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:02:54 2016 No.2786876 File: 130 KB, 707x1000, resized2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785391 an attempt was made

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:06:14 2016 No.2786884 >>2786876 This is the pinnacle of symbol drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:06:27 2016 No.2786885 >>2786813 Hand drawing your own grid over white paper VERY lightly and then the same sized grid by inches or centimeters or whatever size cube you choose is a much better option.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:08:03 2016 No.2786889 >>2786876 You're still symbol drawing like that other guy. Go read the books in the sticky post and the beginner links. Loomis books will help you. They are all free to read on the net.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:13:02 2016 No.2786896 >>2786884 >>2786889 I can't deny any of that guess it's time to hit the books

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:18:22 2016 No.2786901

>>2786885
Well I eventually did that later once I started in art classes. Using lined paper never held me back though. I'm a firm believer that even some of the most unlikely things can be a useful learning tool so I just thought I'd offer an alternate perspective on the matter, that's all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:18:23 2016 No.2786902 File: 3.16 MB, 2064x2588, asdfg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785391 This fucked with me so badly

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:31:28 2016 No.2786915
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two quesrions here. is my shitty gouache set up okay? also anyone used this book before someone gave it to me, its sort of like a keys to drawing for watercolor painting. it has good reviews on amazon but i want your take

>>	Nose Bro Wed Dec 21 21:52:32 2016 No.2786937 >>2786261 i know youre skill level blind, but even on a stylistic level it's not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:18:02 2016 No.2786964 File: 928 KB, 2560x1536, 20161221_221552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785393 What's wrong with my drawing /beg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:19:18 2016 No.2786965 >>2786964 I don't know, my neck snapped before I could critique it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:21:08 2016 No.2786967 File: 362 KB, 480x800, Screenshot_2016-12-21-22-20-11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2786964 Trying again, sure wish my scanner wasnt a hunk of shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:23:25 2016 No.2786970 >>2786965 Assassination successful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:26:53 2016 No.2786975 >>2786671 SketchFab is what you're looking for. 3d skull: >>https://sketchfab.com/models/a04a252f8376401bad417f0d9f263b2a All sorts of other cool reference there.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:30:01 2016 No.2786977
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>>2786975
Sketchfab is fab-tastic especially for beginners but it should be used sparingly and almost like a last resort. Knowing the form of what you're drawing through observation and reference goes a hell of a longer way than looking at what you wanna draw in the perfect orientation

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:33:53 2016 No.2786979 File: 411 KB, 535x666, sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785393

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:35:32 2016 No.2786980 How do I go from drawing 30 minutes a day to 8 hours? How does one draw for 8 hours?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:38:20 2016 No.2786984 >>2786980 endurance isn't achieved over night. before you end your drawing session tell yourself to go for ten more minutes and gradually build up to 5+ hours a day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:41:53 2016 No.2786993 File: 33 KB, 293x171, eJwVzMsNwyAMANBdGABTcPhkG0QQoQo1wu4p6u5tr-_wbvVel9rVKTJ5Bzg6F1qHZqGVW9WNqF01z8660IAskss56ksY7JYwGhdicgHROrOB9cZHb36eHGKyjwB9_JvnbOrzBcF5Id4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] David

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:42:57 2016 No.2786995 File: 776 KB, 1200x900, 6dfa538c9696753026f7f7e48d45fba5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2786993

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:45:03 2016 No.2787000 >>2786979 snoke'd/10

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:47:08 2016 No.2787001 >>2786967 Looks like you put some construction lines down but didn't actually use them. Memes aside Andrew Loomis, Fun With A Pencil goes over this in an easy to understand way. Also her shoulders are way too thin.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:48:15 2016 No.2787004

>>2786977
I don't see how that's any worse than life drawing from the exact orientation you want. I definitely think it's better for learning the form of bones than looking at photo reference.

Even better, make exercises for yourself, construct the skull from imagination and then compare to the model to see your mistakes. No one is saying you need to copy blindly

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:04:22 2016 No.2787031 >>2787000 What?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:32:09 2016 No.2787046 File: 28 KB, 650x335, supreme-leader-snoke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787031

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:36:10 2016 No.2787055 >>2787046 You're a fag for even knowing what that is. Just googled it. Some gay bullshit star wars made up for the social justice Disney editions of those movies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:41:27 2016 No.2787063 >>2787055 Mad cuz bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:46:00 2016 No.2787067 >>2787063 Not even the guy who posted that drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:46:35 2016 No.2787068 >>2787063 i agree with the other man in this dispute

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:46:51 2016 No.2787069 >>2787055 >fuck you for watching one of the highest-grossing movies of all time stay mad

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:48:01 2016 No.2787070 File: 198 KB, 479x772, whatisstarwars.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787068 >>2787055 >You're a fag for even knowing what that is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:48:54 2016 No.2787072 >>2787067 >implying you're not still bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:50:36 2016 No.2787073 File: 120 KB, 549x562, afbczxg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785393

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:51:37 2016 No.2787074 >>2787070 KILL YOUR SELF SENPAI

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:51:48 2016 No.2787076 >>2787070 >Watching the televised jew

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:52:39 2016 No.2787077 >>2787074 what happened to my emojis i posted

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:53:52 2016 No.2787079 File: 199 KB, 600x768, 20161222_014327.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785391

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:54:38 2016 No.2787080 >>2787077 >newfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:55:00 2016 No.2787083 >>2787079 Head is too small for the eye nose and lips

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:55:38 2016 No.2787084 >>2787080 try again

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:56:28 2016 No.2787086 >>2787079 comparing them side to side i see so many proportion errors now. ><. The nose is definately too big and eyes are way off

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:03:02 2016 No.2787089 >>2786979 You're not beginner

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:07:36 2016 No.2787094 >>2787089 one day someone will say this to me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:09:37 2016 No.2787095 >>2787089 By their standards they may still be one. This is also an active thread more so and gets feedback faster.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:13:04 2016 No.2787097 >>2787089 So then, what am I?

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:14:00 2016 No.2787099
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>>2785391
>>2785393
>>2782104
>>2782111

Drew these over the past couple days. Left is from Monday, two on the right are from yesterday, and the middle is from tonight. How am I doing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:31:31 2016 No.2787112 >>2787099 Slow down and think about your strokes and how they relate to the shape and image.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:43:03 2016 No.2787121 File: 1.06 MB, 1126x686, water color test.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf I love watercolor now

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:54:14 2016 No.2787127 File: 417 KB, 2448x3264, NAdavyM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:59:18 2016 No.2787134 File: 535 KB, 2448x3264, 6vrpAXu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787127

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:03:53 2016 No.2787137 File: 407 KB, 2448x3264, 6dnfL0f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787134

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:09:04 2016 No.2787144 File: 821 KB, 2448x3264, 35CjWRf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787137

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:16:14 2016 No.2787148 >>2785390 >doing drawing on the right side >do the viewfinder picture plane exercise where you hold your hand underneath and draw it with one eye closed >hands get sweaty and it slips >have to redo it. LIFE IS SUFFERING

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:40:54 2016 No.2787160 >>2787097 a beginner >>2787089 yeah he is that eye is beyond how he got to rendering it without noticing that is ful retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:46:59 2016 No.2787165 What makes you not want to give up /beg/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:48:23 2016 No.2787166 >>2787165 >double negative >burden of proof rephrase your question then ask again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:48:41 2016 No.2787167 >>2787165 Anime and memes. And my waifu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:51:22 2016 No.2787169 >>2787166 I realized it just after I posted it. What inspires you to not quit drawing, /beg/? Is that better?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:53:37 2016 No.2787172 >>2787169 >implies quitting it the default state that might be why

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:54:55 2016 No.2787174 File: 51 KB, 512x512, 1441022446543.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787166 >autism

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 02:01:53 2016 No.2787176 >>2787165 I gave up. I don't even draw anymore. I just come to /ic/ to enjoy other peoples' progress here and in the alternative art and progress threads. It's addicting for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 02:21:09 2016 No.2787195 File: 91 KB, 670x679, WIN_20161222_01_16_51_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785391 I lost the will to continue. Someone tell me what I did wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 02:31:39 2016 No.2787204 >>2787195 You draw what you thought her face looked like. You narrowed it and made her less ugly and dinner plate faced than she really is. You drew your idealized version of her. Too many middle tones. Needs more brights and darks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:00:43 2016 No.2787216 >>2787165 Looking at the artists that I look up to and knowing that one day I'll be as good as that

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:01:46 2016 No.2787217 >>2787204 just say the s-word, my man he can take it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:07:46 2016 No.2787221 >>2787165 Naivete and stupidity, mostly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:07:49 2016 No.2787222 >>2787217 >the s-word >be as much of a cunt as me or ill complain again

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:10:25 2016 No.2787223 >>2787217 Skill? Symbol drawing? Suck?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:11:34 2016 No.2787224 >>2787204 >>2787217 Yeah, mate. I came here to be bullied. Don't hold back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:11:58 2016 No.2787225 >>2787223 skirmish

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:12:36 2016 No.2787226 >>2787224 I don't know what he means by s word. Probably some ic meme or something? That was my genuine assessment I gave you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:15:07 2016 No.2787228 >>2787226 serendipity

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:15:45 2016 No.2787230 >>2787228 Sounds gay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:16:23 2016 No.2787231 >>2787230 sounds?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:31:20 2016 No.2787235 File: 37 KB, 600x313, 1456199943580.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787231 You must not be a native English speaker. Saying something "sounds gay" can be used the same way as saying "that's gay" or "looks gay" or "is gay".

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:34:14 2016 No.2787237 >>2787235 speaker?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:39:02 2016 No.2787239 File: 94 KB, 620x413, 1449516826859.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787237 got em, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:41:11 2016 No.2787240 >>2787239 >>2787237 I'm not on here often so I must be missing the meme I should know. Kek. I hope I look stupid and you guys are getting some laughs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:42:50 2016 No.2787242 >>2787165 what else could I do? I also have spent too much time on drawing to give up now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:47:42 2016 No.2787243 >>2787063 >>2787072 >>2787070 >sucks the hollykike tit >thinks he's going to make it if you lack the critical thinking to identify a brazenly shit film, you'll never be able to accurately replicate form or spot where you went wrong, sendpie

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:48:46 2016 No.2787244 File: 96 KB, 675x462, 1222160045_HDR-1-675x462.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] an exercise from this watercolor book. im supposed to use a limited palette to understand. i have fucking idea what im doing

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:51:02 2016 No.2787247 >>2787165 >>2787169 I can't achieve my goals or get anywhere meaningful in life if I don't make it, and I'm a low income lad who blew three grand on a cintiq so I might as well just drop it on my neck if I give up now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:59:16 2016 No.2787251 >draw legs too long >overcompensate >torso too short >overcompentsate >hip too narrow >shoulder too small >calf too long every fucking proportion is rubberbanding around as i overcompensate for it all in all directions. this is rough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:01:27 2016 No.2787252 >>2787240 i made a stupid joke about "say the s-word" as in "symbol drawing" and the other anon kept pointing out words that started with 's' in your posts. haHAA

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:07:11 2016 No.2787254 >>2787252 JOKES ON HIM

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:10:57 2016 No.2787255 >>2787204 >>2787217 >>2787223 >>2787224 >>2787225 >>2787226 >>2787228 >>2787230 >>2787231 >>2787235 >>2787237 >>2787240 >>2787252 >>2787254 This is a cluster of (you)s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:11:30 2016 No.2787256 File: 241 KB, 1440x2560, Screenshot_2016-12-22-02-11-03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787255 As you can see...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:11:43 2016 No.2787257 >>2787255 15 fucking posts closer to having to make a new op and i contributed

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:12:44 2016 No.2787258 File: 78 KB, 528x388, you.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787256 thats nice but check these

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:14:22 2016 No.2787261 File: 37 KB, 623x496, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787256 >>2787258 I raise you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:15:56 2016 No.2787264 >>2787261 you're pretty good but check my 3

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:17:52 2016 No.2787267 File: 13 KB, 228x218, 14370072_235166040219792_982766613381994931_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787257 >>2787258 >>2787261 >>2787261 >>2787264 Kek. I love this website.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:21:58 2016 No.2787270 >>2787251 Draw monsters

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:23:46 2016 No.2787272 >>2787270 even monsters have a desired effect that proportion will determine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:35:14 2016 No.2787274 File: 156 KB, 1024x1220, id-ego action.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Been using stocks and drawing this character in given poses to get basic shit down before doing feet/hands. Guy is pretty much a glorified ball-jointed puppet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:46:25 2016 No.2787278 >>2787274 It would help if you actually drew out his simple shapes - cubes for torsos, cylinders for limbs, etc. instead of this flat shit you're doing now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 06:36:22 2016 No.2787380 File: 222 KB, 580x1000, head.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] proportions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 07:47:49 2016 No.2787460 is REIQ a good resource?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 08:15:07 2016 No.2787487 File: 294 KB, 1000x1071, WP_20161221_18_14_53_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 08:18:09 2016 No.2787491 >>2787460 How about making a judgment yourself? Instead of seeking approval from anonymous people on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 08:20:13 2016 No.2787495 >>2787491 He'll do for what im aiming for then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 08:25:47 2016 No.2787499 >>2787380 everything would look so much better if you got your lines cleaner, although its a 'sketch'

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 08:43:40 2016 No.2787524 >>2787487 You should look into head construction on the side when you're not drawing them from life. Knowing the three dimensional shape of the face, even roughly, will help you with those angles. Definitely would help those noses from being so flat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 09:33:01 2016 No.2787580 >>2787070 what a fucking tool

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 09:36:29 2016 No.2787583 File: 831 KB, 1536x2048, DSC_0010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785394 Advices please? I cant get it right the worst problem is placing the features at the right place ,and the face shape, it really fucks with my brain...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 09:40:09 2016 No.2787588 >>2787001 Any other book that explains it? I never really understood anything in Fun with a Pencil, and I've been using Proko's Loomis explanations

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 09:40:41 2016 No.2787589 >>2787073 I like it mang. Was gonna say the placement of the eye is wonky, but looking at the ref, she is kinda derpy to say the least. Tried rendering?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:05:42 2016 No.2787611 >>2787583 You're also still symbol drawing. Read the links in the sticky. More loomis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:06:51 2016 No.2787612 >>2787583 You need to learn to draw 3d shapes. Go and practice drawing spheres, cubes, rhombus etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:30:05 2016 No.2787635 File: 92 KB, 371x497, Torso-studies-timelapse.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Study from imagination. What is wrong with the anatomy of this torso? Are there any major flaws that you can see immediately?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:31:59 2016 No.2787639 File: 54 KB, 371x497, Torso-studies-timelapse-final.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787635 Here's the final image in the gif.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:33:02 2016 No.2787641 >>2787635 >>2787639 bretty gud

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:33:52 2016 No.2787642 File: 203 KB, 465x600, Week 3 day 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787635 >>2787639 Also, would love to get critique on these two images. I just can't get the serratus anterior and deltoid right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:34:38 2016 No.2787643 File: 176 KB, 583x424, Week 3 day 1-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2787642 2 (don't mind the lower part, still working on getting the mannequin right)

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:53:06 2016 No.2787665

>>2787243
youre a stupid nigger. identifying a reference and actually liking a movie that may or may nit be good arent the same retard. someone could have posted the leo character from the revanent or whatthe fuck ever and id at least be able to know whats hes referencing. this fucking good not only sucks at drawing but also is oblivious to the most basic fucking anything

>>2787580
oh no le downvote. fuck off vermin

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:54:10 2016 No.2787669 >>2787665 fucking goon**

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:08:39 2016 No.2787687 >>2787643 there should space between the pelvis and ribcage >>2787642 is the muscle youre refering to the ones tucked under the pecs on the outside of the torso? you should draw the pecs first if so

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:15:08 2016 No.2787695 >>2787687 I'm talking about the green muscles

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:21:28 2016 No.2787701

>>2787695
for the top pic, her raised should is turned away yet youre showing the same amount of muscle. for the bottom pic, using the ribcage outline as a reference, the muscles arent even drawn the same length. one comes right up to the ribcage line the other stops a bit before

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:25:48 2016 No.2787706 >>2787695 as for the deltoids, the deltoids are three heads. one of them you shouldnt be able to see, so you should be showing two separately defined muscles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:48:30 2016 No.2787738 >>2787724 >>2787724 >>2787724 >>2787724 >>2787724 >>2787724

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 12:33:03 2016 No.2787787 File: 350 KB, 1200x1600, sketch1482427923174.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2785398 Is this correct?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 15:41:44 2016 No.2787968 >>2785416 Perspective's off. Symbol drawing. Poor construction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 18:40:18 2016 No.2788203 >>2787968 >taking the bait

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 21:36:31 2016 No.2788415 >>2788203 >taking the bait

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