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Can you retards keep your shit from spilling into my real life.

sincerely
/pol/

>> No.2783027

NYPA

>> No.2783043

>>2783016
why. does. she. care? there are artists who get 3 threads made of them per week and they've never acknowledge /ic/. she was only mentioned in someone else's thread.

>> No.2783050

am i miss something fun or its another fake meme

>> No.2783051

>>2783016
literally who

>> No.2783061

>get your shit together and draw!
/ic/ BTFO by Suzanne

>> No.2783067

fucking LOL

>> No.2783070

i don't even know who she is

>> No.2783075
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2783075

>>2783016
her still life studies are exception btw

>> No.2783076

>>2783051
>>2783070
this. I saw the original thread and skipped over it, she shoulda done the same. Why does she care about the opinions of some nobodies on /ic/? Also how does a couple of shitposts in 4chan of all places make her question the art community? I have no clue who she is but she should know that people talk shit on 4chan, even fucking Mullins gets called a photobashing cheater on here sometimes.

>> No.2783081
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2783081

this looks verrrrry familiar

>> No.2783087

>>2783016
are these threads reportable yet?

>> No.2783089

>>2783016
Oh hey I remember that thread

>> No.2783099

>>2783016
Ma'am, who are you? are you lost?
did you google yourself and find this place?

This is 4chan, nobody even knew this happened until you made it public.

it would have disappeared, you must have known that by now.

did you deliberately find an anonymous post about yourself to get hugbox points from your community?

did one of us send you a link to this thread?

can someone redpill me on who this namefag is? I'm lost.

why do you identify as /pol/ are you a racist as well?

>> No.2783101

>>2783016
>from /pol/
>complains about shit spilling into real life
Kek fuck off

>> No.2783106

>>2783099
/pol/ isnt a racist board. the main stream media (READ = JEWS) try to brand /pol/ as racists to discredit the truth. You might want to stop by sometime and try to swallow a few red pills.....

>> No.2783107

>women can draw
Show me one woman that is on level of Craig Mullins or Ruan Jia. Show me JUST ONE.

>> No.2783108

>>2783106
Stop embarrassing yourself

>> No.2783109

>>2783108
the only embarrassment is your fathers about your birth. sheeple gonna baaaaaaaaaa

>> No.2783110

Why would anyone care about what is being said here? I'm sure she felt the anons here hit the nail on the head and she had to go defense mode so she doesn't end up on suicide watch like the majority of /ic/.

>> No.2783111

>>2783106
Sir, who are you? are you lost?
did you google yourself and find this place?

This is 4chan, nobody even knew this happened until you made it public.

it would have disappeared, you must have known that by now.

did you deliberately find an anonymous post about yourself to get hugbox points from your community?

did one of us send you a link to this thread?

can someone redpill me on who this namefag is? I'm lost.

do you think white knight doxxing this stranger will make you a better artist?

>> No.2783112
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2783112

The only artists I see get shit on /ic/ are artists who are financially successful/think highly of themselves but don't produce very high quality work. People who are trying hard to be good at something get angry when people act like mediocrity is good.

People like Shadman, This person, Illastrat and other's like him, that sort of thing.

Genuinely skilled artists rarely get any other insult than "Yea it's good but it's generic render gook shit, who fucking cares".

>> No.2783115

>>2783111
autist spotted

>> No.2783116
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2783116

>>2783115
stop crying
>>2783112
looks pretty bad

>> No.2783127

Based on flipping through her art-station everything that anon said was 100% true.

Her art is all pretty amateur, she's lacking fundies, her self insert novel is full of terrible designs, she's just not very good.

>> No.2783143

wait wait a sec
what the deal with this unknown girl, /ic/ and /pol?
>/pol/tards will never be banned from posting in /ic/
>this place will never be great again

>> No.2783145

>>2783112
>The only artists I see get shit on /ic/ are artists who are financially successful/think highly of themselves but don't produce very high quality work
cool story

>> No.2783150

>>2783107
Promise me that you will eat your shit with proofs if I found one.

>> No.2783154

>>2783150
I already eat my shit though, anon. I'm a basement-dwelling /ic/ shittler.

But go ahead and show me what you got. Flash me.

>> No.2783160
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2783160

>>2783154
Jenny Saville
Lisa Yuskavage

>> No.2783184

>>2783107
Margaret Bowland

>> No.2783191

>>2783184
That is some pretty specific subject matter she's got there

>> No.2783192
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2783192

>>2783107
L.D. Austin is pretty good.

>> No.2783193

>>2783192
She's one who drawing for Heartstone? Damn. I thought it's a man

>> No.2783199
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2783199

>>2783107
Jana Schirmer

>> No.2783201

>>2783016
>Suzanne Helmigh
Who's this insecure trap ?

>> No.2783204
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2783204

>>2783107
Meadow Gist. Erik M. Gist's wife. They met at Watts Atelier.

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2783208

>>2783107
Hellstern's pretty good too.

>> No.2783210

>>2783150
>>2783184
>>2783192
>>2783199
>>2783204
>>2783208

They are not as good as Craig Mullins or Ruan Jia. They are good, I admit that and I am actually surprised, but they are not as good.

>> No.2783211

>>2783210
topkek

>> No.2783217

>>2783106
>>2783016
>>2783109

This is a false flag. Sage & report

>> No.2783239

>>2783210
You're right. Many of them are actually better.

>> No.2783241
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2783241

>>2783191
>looking at artsy exclusively

>> No.2783242

>>2783210
Women can git gud it just happens a lot less often then men for reasons anyone should be able to figure out

>> No.2783247

>>2783241
sure is an odd interpretation of Frida Kahlo.

>> No.2783250

>>2783241
As far as I can tell 100% of her art is black girl in white face with the occasional dwarf lady

>> No.2783251
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2783251

>>2783250
That's just recent.

>> No.2783252

>>2783242
because they are attention whores that would rather waste time on promoting themselves than on actually drawing. There arent good female artists.

>> No.2783257

>>2783252
wild /r9k/ here too?

>> No.2783259

>>2783252
You know it's okay to generalize about demographics but when you say there are zero exceptions is when you turn into a retard

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2783260

>>2783239
muh lady

>> No.2783262
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2783262

>>2783260
woman sucks reeee
Ruan Jia is god!

>> No.2783263

>>2783259
Probably because I havent seen one in my life at all. There are decent females artists, decent in a meaning that they are not absolute garbage but there is nothing groundbreaking. Its a fact, that they dont focus on that stuff as much as men.I dont hate them if thats what you are implying, I just can see that they are not destined to do great things.

Unless you can show me a master of painting that is a woman.
>>2783257
very thoughtful post

>> No.2783264
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2783264

>>2783260
Yes, anon? Thirsty for another (you)? Don't worry, mommy's got you covered.

>> No.2783266

>>2783264
nice strawman, keep it going retards

>> No.2783269

>>2783266
>muh irrelevant logical fallacy

Drink, drink, drink

>> No.2783270

>>2783266
wut

>> No.2783271

>>2783263
/r9k/ dweller who picked up drawing but is an eternal noob detected.

>> No.2783272
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2783272

>>2783252
>>2783210
>>2783257
>>2783150
>2016
>being this baited
>never been to a museum
Good luck with life chumps

>> No.2783274

>>2783269
>implying implications

I forgot there are people on this board, right now, who would defend someone they dont even know. Truly the gentlemen we need. Or cucks?

>> No.2783275

>>2783272
It's shitposting thread. Free (You) for everyone

>> No.2783276
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2783276

>>2783263
If you're going for more "Groundbreaking" I haven't seen anyone do what Sachin Teng does. Her work is very distinct.

>> No.2783277

>>2783271
>/r9k/ dweller who picked up drawing but is an eternal noob detected.

Not only I dont browse that shithole but I am sure that I am better than your worthless, useless ass. Fuck off with your white knighting to reddit, imbecile.

>> No.2783281

>>2783274
Ruan Jia is trash tier artist compared to anyone from ateliers. Only ching chong cocksucker will defend him

>> No.2783283

>>2783277
Yes, everyone is very impressed by those drawings you're too embarrassed to actually post

>> No.2783284

>>2783266
>>2783260

Muh damage control

>> No.2783285

>white knights ITT
SAD

>> No.2783286

>>2783283
I am not going to post any stuff because its linked to my work and I dont want to be associated with garbage like yourself. Dont believe if you dont want to, I am just feeling really good right now knowing that some shit tier nobody wastes his time on defending people he doesnt even know.

>> No.2783293

>>2783286
you can post gestures :^

>> No.2783297
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>>2783286
>I'm an excuse-making pussy that clings to projections and can't actually draw for shit

ftfy

>> No.2783301
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2783301

>>2783293
Old sketches. Now fuck off, retard

>> No.2783307

>>2783301
Do you top or bottom?

>> No.2783310
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>>2783301
>so-bin
LMAO

>> No.2783311

I love these threads were everyone argues whether women are as good at art as men. It just KILLS the sjws that 98% of good artists are white/asian men (who usually love to draw 'misogynist' art that involves women who aren't uggos or hamplanets).

Hatefact time: there are some good female artists, but not very many, and 90% of good artists, and all the best artists are men. Not very many good black artists either, come to think of it.

Not to hate on Suzanne Whatshername or Janaschi or that girl who works at Blizzard. Just the facts is all.

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>>2783301
>I'm so thoroughly ashamed I must post other people's art and claim it as my own

>> No.2783313

>>2783301
>>2783310
REKT

>> No.2783316

>>2783311
yeah, pretty much this

>> No.2783317

>>2783311
>implying michelangelo wasn't a woman
>implying the mona lisa didn't draw herself
>implying Sargent wasn't just in a crazy Margaret Keane situation with his sister Mary.

>> No.2783319
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>>2783311
A lot of women end up more so in animation. Pays more then a lot of video game studios. Story boarders in TV starting out making 50 USD an hour. If you work in feature you make much much more with royality checks if your movie does well. Also the guild is there to make sure everyone has equal wage. If you work in guild mandated animation studios for over 5 years you'll get a pension.

>> No.2783321
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2783321

>>2783210
imo no one is in league with Craig Mullins, including Ruan Jia. he said in an interview that he has been drawing digitally since he was a kid in some early version of paint or something before most people even had a computer. if that's true, then obviously no one's going to catch up with him. the guy is 51 years old, he can be Ruan Jia's dad.

as for Ruan, pic related is by fellow chink Ruoxin Zhang. she has a much different style from him and is apparently only interested in drawing pretty girls surrounded by flowers, but i think she's impressive.

>> No.2783323

>>2783321
shame that she doesnt render anything except the person.

>> No.2783325
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>>2783311
Too many people on Earth. You don't know all artists especially someone who not exist in internet but famous among galleries. Plus language barrier and "different internet". Probably tons of chinese girls can paint like Ruan Jia (considering that crazy chinese education culture) but no one here use weibu and lurking in their internet, chats, closed forums etc. How many, for example, japanese traditional painters do you know? Korean?

>> No.2783329
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2783329

>>2783323
Yeah, what a hack.

>> No.2783331

>>2783321
Are you trying to say Craig Mullins is best existing artist on our planet right now? Digital or not digital doesn't matters, you know?

>> No.2783335

Serious question, not shitposting, but what is the appeal of Craig Mullins?

He's obviously very technically skilled, but I never consider his art "gorgeous", it has this stained incredibly dirty look to it.

Is that kind of style appealing now? I see it in Ruan Jia as well where they smudge their shit.

>> No.2783339

>>2783311
I don't think people were disputing that.

It's a just a function of the IQ bellcurve desu.
Men, whites and asians particular are just over the threshold of having enough high iq people to populate...well every single job that requires significant mental effort.

>> No.2783341

>>2783321
You have a shit eye if you think that pic is that great or that craig mullins is the best artist alive.

>> No.2783342
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2783342

>>2783331
Good point. Mian Situ and Z.S. Liang are still around.

>> No.2783343

>>2783335
stop

>> No.2783344
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2783344

Someone show me a female artist who likes to draw spaceships.

If you can't supply one then girls are shit and worse than Hitler and have cooties.

>> No.2783345

>>2783335
>He's obviously very technically skilled, but I never consider his art "gorgeous", it has this stained incredibly dirty look to it.
And some people criticized Bouguereau because his art is too clean.
>>2783339
>IQ memes

>> No.2783347

>>2783335
>>2783343
They can't answer. They can only parrot board culture "facts" and memes.

>> No.2783353

>>2783345
>I can be a great artist with an iq of 100

enjoy that learning pace familam

>> No.2783355

>>2783335
It's concept art my man, rendering is not a concern

>> No.2783356
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>>2783311
>90% of good artists, and all the best artists are men
You got some stats or anything to back that up other than your own warped world view? Also you need to take into account the context surrounding women in art throughout history and in societies where women are still expected to be nothing more than babymakers.

>> No.2783359

>>2783355

post some rendered illustrations of Mullins, then?

>> No.2783360

>>2783356
>you got some stats to back up your assertion of a subjective assessment bro?
Come the fuck on.
Nice perspective on that peice btw

>> No.2783362

>>2783347
No matter how big your wall of text, simple "It's just your opinion. Art is subjective" can counter it in internet. And it's pretty hard to describe why this particular artist is good.
>what is the appeal of Michelangelo?
>he's averege compared to Rubens and his colors sucks

>> No.2783363

>>2783360
>"hatefact"
>fact
The artist is Karla Ortiz, she's an amazing illustrator

>> No.2783364

>>2783360
redline

>> No.2783367

>>2783363
I'm not the anon who made that post, it's just massively retarded to ask for stats when they say "most of the best x are y" unless you want them to compile a list of every single artist they deem good and do a demographic analysis of them
>>2783364
The chair and table aren't in the same perspective

>> No.2783369

>>2783367
How it should looks like? Redline, come on

>> No.2783370

>>2783367
he claimed that it was a fact, which implies objectivity. I also added "anything" past stats - and I think i was just trying to point out how him treating that opinion as a "fact" was retarded

>> No.2783371

reminder that the best 3d modeler in the entire industry is a transgender

>> No.2783372
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2783372

Fucking up perspective is for casuals

>> No.2783377

I just found this thread, and if your self-worth is so fragile that a few people shit talking you tilts you, you should focus on becoming better to prove them wrong, not throw a shit fit

>> No.2783381

>>2783372
Now look at old masters, start thinking
>they not so good
And try to find what they can understand and what they not. Big surprise for you

>> No.2783382

>>2783369
Just look at the missing bottom of the window sill and the considerably lower visibility of the seat of the chair than it ought.

"I don't have such a clear grasp on the perspective. " -t.Kiera Ortiz, literally.

>> No.2783433

>>2783276
>her

sachin teng is male though as far as i know

>> No.2783471

>>2783433
Sachin's a girl.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHVb6-WBoa3/

>> No.2783479

>>2783210
>They are not as good as Craig Mullins or Ruan Jia

Well, Ruanjia is pretty much the best digital illustrator bar none right now, so it's not like you'd find any male artist within the entertainment industry either who is as good as him.

>> No.2783482

>>2783372
yeah, look at that fucked up arm instead.

>> No.2783492
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2783492

>>2783479
I like Chase Stone, he's good.. Actually like his work way more than Ruan Jia

>> No.2783501

>>2783311
And yet those "10%" female artists are better than you shitty failure. I understand why /pol/tards like to hide behind shit like "white and male pride", because individually they are nobodies and they need to take pride in shit they are born with.

>> No.2783509

>>2783262
Jeff Watts painted that

>> No.2783527

>>2783471
ok it looks like i was misinformed i didnt know she was a lesbian though
she was talking about her black girlfriend on tumblr once so i kinda assumed she was male (evil heteronormative shitlord anon me)
now it all makes sense, literally everyone on tumblr is a lesbian tbqh