Questions for friends of Ms.Mary Jane

[Anonymous No.2778348]

I'll be buying edibles for the first time tomorrow (legally, in my state), and I'm curious about how it will affect my work.

My primary plan is to just take a day off once a week or once every other week to use just for stress relief, but I've heard good things about Sativas as stimulants. I've already tried micro-dosing LSD and found it too hard to dose properly, and the effects not quite ideal for me for frequent use (and it's a bit hard to come by around here).

>Which strains and dosages have you found best for being being productive?
>Which for producing the best work?
>Do you instead find that you're the most productive or produce the best work while sober?
>Any other random information, side-effects, tolerance-management, that you think people should know?

Let me know what works for you and I'll give it a try.

[Anonymous No.2778359]

Kill yourself degenerate faggot

[Anonymous No.2778362]

>>2778348
I'm currently on a dose of ambient Washington second-hand smoke and I'm making some good progress.

[Anonymous No.2778365]

>>2778359
In what way am I a degenerate?

Show me the way, senpai.

[Anonymous No.2778373]

>>2778348
I hope your brain turns into mush, degenerate modern. May Peter Hitchens have mercy on your filthy soul

[Anonymous No.2778378]

>>2778373
Peter Hitchens espouses many views completely in contradiction of scientific fact. Keep listening to him, if you're interested in brains turning to mush.

[Anonymous No.2778394]

>thinking drugs will help you learn how to draw

Not gonna make it. Lel.

[Anonymous No.2778397]

>>2778348
>buying edibles
>legally, in my state
My state just legalized, but still have to wait till Jan

>Which strains and dosages have you found best for being being productive?
>Which for producing the best work?
To be honest idk, I just buy weed to get high. Apparently Sativa makes you "energized" Im unsure if its true or not

Be careful with edibles, theyre usually potent, if you take too much youll be on your ass

[Anonymous No.2778404]

>>2778394

I don't believe in drugs, but LSD was given to some scientists in a test at one point and it allowed them to solve some problems they were stuck on.

I can't find the video, but some of them are useful if you're not against it.

[Anonymous No.2778405]

>weed
>making you productive

Stop hiding your head in the sand and work actively on your creativity instead of smoking brainslow every weekend.

[Anonymous No.2778415]

>>2778394
Re-read the OP, this thread has nothing to do with learning, only productivity.

>>2778405
I do work, I have no trouble working, and no trouble with creativity. I have some issues with stress, which I currently manage with meditation every day, and some days with several hours of meditation. I want to be more efficient with my time, which is why I'm going to try marijuana.

I don't get why you plebs have an issue with using marijuana. I'm looking for a stimulant because caffeine doesn't work for me (puts me a very wakeful but groggy state and messes with my sleep cycle). I would like a stimulant that won't mess with my ability to produce good quality work, where's the problem with that? Would you be acting like such a bitch if I was asking about your favorite brand of coffee?

You guys need to stop projecting.

>>2778397
Thank you for the only relevant post in the thread.

I assumed there would be more people who use on this board.

[Anonymous No.2778417]

DUDE

[Anonymous No.2778420]

>>2778415
>this thread has nothing to do with learning, only productivity.
>Productively not learning how to draw
>Productively never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.2778421]

off the top of my head

WEED will make you more philosophical about your art, like the meta analysis of it WHAT is Art great for if you like sketchbooks with lots of notes in em (pic related)

SHROOMs will make you hear the voice of god and your more likely to draw like godhead nonsense i dunno i dont recommend this actually
its too easy to get into kitschpirituality like alex gray (in b4 you like him no you dont)
although i did paint the sky once on shrooms, it makes me 100% sure the impressionists were downing that shit

LSD will make you like one step removed from life entirely,
you know in video games, like you have the HUD that shows you your health and shit? LSD will show you the irl HUD (its in hebrew and basically looks like the kabbalah sefirot tree go figure) but its also kinda like in death note when you trade half your life for the shinigami eyes, only you kinda trade all the fun and ability to enjoy normal things (because you see the HUD behind normal activities) you literally have to invent something new to entertain yourself (cough steve jobs and ipod) but it is a great go for broke motivation to be innovative, because you now literally have no other choice.

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[Anonymous No.2778422]

>>2778421

SALVIA is terrifying, i can only imagine someone deranged could make some sweet art, but god its panic inducing

DXM will make you good at shit like graffiti, it helps you find the nook and crannies in society and get on the wavelength of lets call it "the weird place behind the grocery store nobody goes except the truck drivers" perfect places to tag

BENADRYL good for details because the spiders (if you have to ask) but it shuts down your immune system entirely (NOPE for a lot of people, actually most, you have to be weird as balls 420chan /del/ for more information)

ADDERALL will make you make "art that is inherently valuable" like suddenly you want to make gold plated iconography. some of /ic/ would benefit from this i think. It doesn't make you a better artist, it just makes you make what normies would deem more "wow" art. any fellow artist will call you a hack for bedazzling your painting.

LITHIUM ABILIFY & PROZAC is what im now because i went insane from all these drugs

[Anonymous No.2778435]

Weed will not make you creative or productive, it fogs up your brain and kills your ambition. It will also make you emotionally stunted.

[Anonymous No.2778449]

>>2778435

i agree with everything you said and the weed does cause it just not directly but indirectly

(this is true for any substance)
more time spent getting high = more isolation = less time with people and sober normal experiences = you fall off the curve on whats normal thats been beaten into you since grade school and its very hard to relearn what took you 18 years. turns out being a normie is harder than it looks. being a normie artist is ideal trust me, being a weirdo artist just makes you into a bohemian slob that is an "artist" in name only and doesn't actually make work. you don't have to be "REAL" or live the hard knock life or get ROUGH VIETNAM EXPERIENCES to make art. anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you into the MFA pyramid scheme they themselves fell into.

its unfortunate but getting high with people does not solve the problem. drugs make you weird and being around other weird people on drugs just makes things worse because it normalizes/enables it for you.

you want to know how to get the best art out of drugs? it isn't from being an artist and taking drugs, we need our sobriety to fucking draw lines dipshit
no the best art comes when you give a normie drugs and draw them or ask them to describe what they see or feel and then you DRAW IT it makes the trip magical for them and you get to feel the warm fuzzies because they think youre amazing and honestly you feel amazing because art, can be morally rewarding.

in conclusion, no artist benefits from taking drugs. EVERY SINGLE LAST ALL artists will use "working on art" as an excuse to get high. sorry guis but we artists are addicts to "flow" by nature.
The best thing to do is to get other people high and draw for them. they arent going anywhere, (good life studies) they have your attention and a unique experience and they are delighted because you can help validate their ephemeral experiences with something real and tangible. which, isn't that what being an artist is all about?

[Anonymous No.2778473]

>>2778421
You can enjoy normal things once you get out.

[Anonymous No.2778475]

>>2778449
I have old memories of Flow but haven't reached it in a while. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.2778476]

I thank those of you who've actually contributed, but I think people are misinterpreting the direction of the thread.

I (the OP), have no issues with productivity, creativity, learning, etc. I already have a pattern which I don't want to change, it's working quite well for me, except that I get stressed out. I manage my stress currently, I'm looking to manage it better, and I'm going to see if marijuana can help. A smaller problem I have is a need for a useful stimulant, which is what this thread is about (but if anyone wants to comment on stress-reduction, feel free).

To reiterate:
A lot of people drink coffee, I've heard good things about marijuana as a stimulant from multiple independent accounts, some who swear by it. I now have access to a legal dispensary, so I'm going to take advantage of that, and see if I can get a stimulant there.

I've smoked marijuana before, and beyond the psychedelic effects, it always just made me tired. But I didn't have a choice between specific strains back then, let alone precise dosages of specific cannabinoids. There are over 110 known cannabinoids, and those have their own metabolites. Marijuana is not one singular substance with one singular effect, so it would not surprise me to find opposite effects from two strains of marijuana. If I can't find a good stimulant from my local dispensary, so be it. If it doesn't help me reduce stress, so be it. But as it is, I am an imperfect being capable of improving, and I will use whatever I can to do so.

As marijuana becomes legalized more globally, I'm sure I'll have an easier time finding clearly stated, peer reviewed information on the subject, but right now my questions are directed at those who've actually used marijuana frequently, especially those who've used it as a stimulant. I was hoping this wouldn't be a fringe subject.

TL;DR: Just because I brought up the topic of marijuana doesn't mean I'm looking for stoner memes.

[Anonymous No.2778477]

>>2778348
Not art or critique.

[Anonymous No.2778478]

>>2778477
Neither are art schools or artists, but there are plenty of threads about each.

[Anonymous No.2778484]

>>2778348
For being productive the less the better. And you'd better watch out with edibles, those things will creep up on you and get you FRIED and fun fact: If you're narcoleptic it will make you lose muscle tone and probably just fall asleep.

I guess the best would be to just find something that promotes a wakeful high, not the stuff that makes you sleepy. I think you can look the names up on leafly and it'll give you a rundown.

Brainstorming and sketching can be fun when you're high but producing polished work and being focused and driven takes having a sober mind and body. Also if you rely on weed to be creative you'll just start drawing the same stupid stuff over and over again, it's counterproductive.

If you're going to do this you'd better force yourself to actually work the whole time instead of just veg out watching SpongeBob like every other stoner artist. Marijuana will affect your motivation, and though not physically addictive it can become addictive mentally. Use it in moderation and for a good reason every time but do not let it become a crutch or a regular habit.

[Anonymous No.2778492]

>>2778484
> I think you can look the names up on leafly and it'll give you a rundown.

Thanks, I'm checking this out.

[Anonymous No.2778494]

>>2778475

ok first as an artist
IGNORE ALL SOCIOLOGY
seriously, that shit will fuck with you.
it will destroy your special snowflake artist narrative (aka that thing you uh FUCKIN NEED)
sociologists and artists are enemies and lovers.
Fuck, kill, marry for an artist is as follows
fuck a sociologist
kill the rival artist
marry your waifu

ergh maybe im just showing my bias too much hurr hmm
SOCIOLOGy wants to make the world into "omg did you know kids who are parents of divorce are 39% more likely to commit crime?"
explain how knowing that will help your art. ill wait. (no modern art hey no thats cheating ack)

and you want to spraypaint COWS LIKE MOO or big titted anime bitches on a wall

fact is you are an outlier in sociological data, and you THRIVE on being an outlier. comprende ?
YOU are a terrorist for sociologists.
what reason is there for drawing from posemaniacs for hours upon hours? or painting a shoe? or yadda yadda caterpillar freckles details SMELLING THE ROSES SOCIOLOGY
ITS CALLED NOT EVERYTHING IS ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS

n

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wayz

to answer your question
IRONICALLY sociology produces some of the best self help shit for artists
from most to least /ic/ related:
these books are tight ::
GOD TIER:
TALENT IS OVERRATED - Geoffrey Colvin
seriously this is 100% GITGUD/ic/ the book, if you have not read it guis srsly
it is the real life sociological gatherings and im laughing as i type this of about GETTING GOOD AT SOMETHING

KILL TIER:
MOONWALKING WITH EINSTEIN - Joshua Foer
FUCK TIER:
FIERCE CONVERSATIONS - Susan Scott
MARRY TIER:
PREMARITAL SEX IN AMERICA - Mark Regnerus

[Anonymous No.2778514]

>>2778476

smoke sativa

just say i want sativa no indica please

[Anonymous No.2778659]

>>2778421
this LSD HUD metaphor explains some shit for me

[Anonymous No.2778703]

Weed is a good thing, if you draw for yourself. But be careful: weed make you very lazy. So keep it under control. You are lucky, is legal in your state.

[Anonymous No.2778760]

Weed typically zapped the creative energies out of me and made me just want to play video games or fap tbqh. This is just anecdotal evidence, but most stoners I know that do draw(I know none that paint) are fucking awful and cringey. I would say psychedelics are the optimal drug for art, but really drugs can hinder your work in the long run more than help, even pretty benign things like shrooms and acid.

[Anonymous No.2778764]

Btw if you want to be more productive, just drink some coffee. Sativas making you energized is a meme, all they do is make you more high in the brain, so to speak, rather than high in the body. I would say I am less productive on major sativas, because I get so scatter brained and sometimes pretty anxious.

[Anonymous No.2778768]

>>2778435
>>2778449
>>2778494

This is the most incoherent set of rambling I've read on this board in a long time. Every substance affects people in small variations for the most part, but for some it's a large scale difference.
>"Ignore all sociology"
The fuck are you talking about? Ignore how observational science understands human cultures? Do you know what symbolism is? Do you know what representational art is? Both of those are influenced, based, and contribute to sociology as a whole.

>>2778435 has a nugget of truth to it; it will not make you creative; a creative person will be creative wether they have some psychoactive chemical in them or not. On the topic of productivity; for myself and a few others, marijuana (depending on the strain) allows me to disconnect and view my thoughts objectively, and in many cases has been a great helping hand in moving through some tough times. As for ambition, I also find that I work harder/ better while high (again, with certain strains). However it should be noted that the ambition noted in this post may be referring to RELYING on a substance (though that is true for ANY substance), because relying on anything as a crutch will inevitably stunt or halt progress, or even promote the half of all effort all together.

If all this is trolling, you guys get 9/10, made me write a novel

[Anonymous No.2778770]

>>2778348
>I'm curious about how it will affect my work.
you won't do any

[Anonymous No.2778771]

Keep up meditating to deal with the stress and stop relying on crutches to be productive

All drugs have one massive drawback or another when it comes to art and otherwise

[Anonymous No.2778797]

>>2778764
This, I would smoke bowls of schwag (t-thanks Texas) and drink around 2-3 cups of coffee throughout the morning working on stuff and would be excited for it everyday. The mid-to-brick stuff doesn't glue you to a tv and couch.

Weed by itself won't make you want to draw a masterpiece or study but if you have some coffee it'll get you in a good headspace and makes rendering really fun to do. Made me scatterbrained though and not able to have a direct/organized approach to finishing things. I've been without for a couple of months now and can see how smoking made me stagnate for a long time just by not having structure in my work ethic which is something I've always struggled with even before the drugs. But my ideas were pretty steady at least.

I miss it and when I do smoke again it won't be 420BLAZE IT//ALL DAYERRDAY like I used to do. OP should have small dosages and see how it affects your drawing ability and go from there, if I had access to decently priced edibles I would eat portions and see how far I could go before I'd be knocked off my ass. Then you can just do that whenever you feel like it.

[Anonymous No.2778801]

>>2778770
>you won't do any
projecting your own insecurities

[Anonymous No.2778804]

>>2778760
i agree, sometimes i can draw and concentrate after i smoke but usually i just wanna watch movies or play video games.Ive heard some people feel more focused after smoking and it helps with art, but not me, it only helps when im already dead set on drawing.

[Anonymous No.2779355]

>>2778494
Do you have experience?

>it will destroy your special snowflake artist narrative (aka that thing you uh FUCKIN NEED)

Can't you just be yourself? No one is unique or special but if you are doing exactly what you want what does it matter if people care or not?

[Anonymous No.2779435]

If it works for you, do it. But if it doesn't -- and be honest -- don't do it.

Don't listen to these butthurt faggots who are mostly not working art jobs and also get salty at the mention of a porn artist making $1k a month.

They are largely biased.

[Anonymous No.2779463]

i was a major pothead during art skool. weed gives me the push i need to get out of bed and actually work.

Regardless of what anyone says, you won't know until you try it.

[Anonymous No.2779619]

>>2778768
Research is showing that long term marijuana use literally cripples your ability to experience emotions.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/307249.php

[Anonymous No.2779682]

>>2779619
>Sample size of only 70, (some of which were control group, so less than 70 actual weed users)
>Sample selected only from University of Colorado student body
>Only studied for 2 years
>Weed users showed intensified reactions to negative-emotion face pictures, less intense reactions to positive-emotion face pictures
>Scored lower than control group when asked to focus on gender of face pictures and then identify their emotion later
>Draw meaningful conclusions from tiny data pool
>Ishiggydiggy.mkv

The conclusion of this study is biased. The evidence supports the hypothesis that University of Colorado students with higher responses to negative emotions and lower responses to positive emotions are more likely to become users of weed just as much as it supports the hypothesis that weed impacts emotional response.

It's a good thing you can draw, anon, because you sure can't STEM.

[Anonymous No.2779698]

>>2778348
>weed for staying productive
i've never seen that work
i'm not a weed man but when my friends smoke they generally perform slightly worse at whatever they're doing. that's about it.
maybe it could help you do something you're already skilled at, like get you into the flow more easily.
but for actual productivity, i can't imagine it helping. i've only witnessed second hand though.
the most potent tool for productivity is habit. and not many people seem to strive for developing themselves into someone who is habitually productive.
but give it a try and report back.

[Anonymous No.2779789]

>>2778348
I smoke very much weed but only on my free-time or when I am drawing.

For me the strain doesn't really matter but I can recommend sativa. What this does for me is that when I draw I get alot more focused. I get into my zone more easily and can almost lock out everything besides my paper and my music.

I draw alot without smoking as well but I mostly return to the habit of ''Smoke and draw'' because it helps me to get in my zone almost instantly.

Sometimes it will feel like you can't draw without it but that isn't true, it is all in your head like most of the things we have problems with.

I have been draeing my whole life but when I started to smoke weed it really influenced my drawing because before I started to smoke, I would mostly do portraits and boring drawings and nothing really creative.

But after smoking and unlocking hidden doors inside of me I realized how boring it was to be good at drawing without being a creative person yourself. Then it really started for me and my breakthrough as an artist started and now I have found myself more than ever.

I don't think it was the weed entirely but I know that drugs and alkohol has a good affect on you when you draw/paint because you dont critisize yourself at all but you are going with the flow and actually have fun with it as well.

On my IG: Emilnowicki you can see alot drug-inspired work.

Hope this helps!

[Anonymous No.2779818]

>>2779789
Pls be bait

[Anonymous No.2779940]

Try microdosing shrooms, grow them yourself at home OP it's easy, in 2 months you can have your first batch.

Also don't smoke weed too often or you'll fuck up.