/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.2727896]

Don't u guys realize that this board is pointless for real art.

Everyone here keeps circlejerking the idea that in order to be good at creating art you just have to know how to draw anatomy. There's no actual artistic discussion here. It's all about how accurately you can match a picture of reality. But there's more to art than that.
Am I the only one that thinks this?
If you disagree please let me hear u and we can talk.

[Anonymous No.2727897]

wow your right?

[Anonymous No.2727898]

>>2727896
Thats because most come here to learn art and not to make art or talk about art.

[Anonymous No.2727899]

>>2727896
I agree and Iv'e been outside my room. It's different out there but I myself am studying anatomy as a want instead of a need.

[Anonymous No.2727900]

says the sideways ultra high resolution lined paper chicken scratch man. i see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.2727905]

>>2727900
>ultra high resolution
it's called iPhone pic
>lined paper
It's called bein 2 lazy to get a sketchbook
>chicken scratch
It's called a sketch
>criticizing my pic instead of my words
It's called the straw man fallacy (not tryna be self ritious even tho that's how it sounds))))

>>2727898
You learn it by making it and talking about it. I'm not disagreeing with you. But ppl here need to focus on different things if they wanna be successful artists. They need to talk

[Anonymous No.2727913]

>>2727905
>It's called the straw man fallacy

you are not as smart as you think you are.

[Anonymous No.2727914]

>>2727905
its called resize the damn picture or at least rotate it, its called quit being a lazy ass and get a sketch book, its called reading the sticky, its called
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but i also agree that photo copying isnt the true way. like vilppu says the model is not copied.its a tool. and you need to work on many things.and if you dont want to talk then if you are good at self criticism you can pull it off but otherwise its nice to have a place to have your art torn apart. this place is also a good place to find information.

[Anonymous No.2727917]

>>2727896

/ic/ is kind of a nigger that thinks only classical music (realism) and dubstep (anime) are real music and worth pursuing.

[Anonymous No.2727927]

>>2727896

>real art
u wot m8?

>Everyone here keeps circlejerking the idea that in order to be good at creating art you just have to know how to draw anatomy.

You must be new here. /ic/ is not about "art" it's about getting good at drawing and painting. And to get good at drawing and painting you need solid fundamentals and good understanding of anatomy is a part of that.

> There's no actual artistic discussion here.
Your art major awaits you.

[Anonymous No.2727934]

>>2727905

>it's called iPhone pic

It's called resizing and turning it.

>It's called bein 2 lazy to get a sketchbook

Try bein 2 lazy to take a shit picture of it and post it on a Mongolian Basket Weaving website next time.

>It's called a sketch

It's called a piece of shit

>It's called the straw man fallacy

That isn't a strawman anon, but the rest of the shit you're saying makes me think and hope you knew that and you're fucking with us.

[OP No.2727937]

>>2727934
>it's called a piece of shit

I'll let you know the drawing professor at my nonprestigious liberal arts college says it's fantastic.

[Anonymous No.2727940]

>>2727896
/ic/ is all about fundamentals.

I'm not interested in an alternative to recommending that budding artists concentrate on that.

[OP No.2727944]

>>2727940
Who says it's all about fundamentals? It doesn't have to be.

Maybe /lit/ would be better suited...

[Anonymous No.2727951]

>>2727937

Maybe ask him about what a strawman means, maybe he knows more about language than he does about art.

[OP No.2727958]

>>2727951
low blow

[Anonymous No.2727963]

>>2727905
You sound like a retarded nigger. I hope for your sake you're trolling, and that you don't mean anything you've said.

[OP No.2727967]

>>2727963
lol sorry I was (still am) tripping when I made this thread

[Anonymous No.2727968]

>>2727951
kek

[Anonymous No.2727974]

>>2727896
To be good at creating art you must be good at the craft. /ic/, as terrible as it is, has its priorities in the right place. Skills first, muh feels second.

[Anonymous No.2728033]

>>2727937
living proof why some art schools are bad

[Anonymous No.2728039]

>>2727896
>There's no actual artistic discussion here
because there is no point discussing these matters with random anons. the quality just varies too much. just look at the drawing you posted. why would i discuss anything art related with you?

that's why people stick with more objective things, i.e. technique. and even then, there are constant arguments.

[OP No.2728061]

>>2728033
I said LIBERAL arts. I don't go to art school

[Anonymous No.2728064]

>>2727896

[Anonymous No.2728084]

>>2728061
Read the sticky

[Anonymous No.2728092]

>>2727896
Hell yeah even this chick shitting out eggs with colour in it and running around naked is supposed to be making art. Everything can be considered as art if 2 people think it's art. /ic/ is about drawing

[Anonymous No.2728100]

OP's drawings have more merit than 95% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.2728102]

>>2727896
>drawing with the wrist

[Anonymous No.2728124]

>>2727896
I don't know about you but when I'm drawing and things like anatomy and values are lacking I can't move on until I try to fix them to the best of my ability, and even then I'm usually not satisfied. I guess I just don't value being "artsy", not that it's a bad thing, there's clearly a market for it.

[Anonymous No.2728489]

>>2727944
>abandon fundamentals
>anonymous artwork critique
Pick one

[OP No.2728546]

>>2728489
I'm not saying we should completely disregard fundamentals, but there's more to art than just the fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.2728567]

>>2728061
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[Anonymous No.2728572]

>>2728546

Yes. Just like there's more to architecture than foundations.It doesn't mean that all the cool fancy shit isn't built on top of a solid foundation.

[Anonymous No.2728587]

>>2728546
>there's more to art than just the fundamentals.
You've yet to state any alternatives

[Anonymous No.2729313]

>>2727896
I like you

we must reconvene on /his/

/ic/ sucks and the people here don't appreciate aesthetics at all

[Anonymous No.2729344]

>>2727896
Craftsmanship is important. You should understand how to draw a body. If an artist gave me a big vocal dissertation about how passionate they were, but then they draw something and it shows poor construction, call yourself something else. That's all I could say in response because I'd be so put off by their lack of appreciation for probably the most fun thing to draw.

You don't need to call yourself an artist, I don't really even call myself an artist. If people ask what I do, I tell them I draw and do digital painting. The conversation will then usually lead to my interest in figure drawing. You could call yourself something way more informative than just artist, at least refer back to the subject matter you partake in. Designer, sculptor, photographer, someone who draws pen scribbles and posts them online for attention.

It's a bad sign when someone starts talking about art and then actually uses the word art, artist or meaning of art, and you're doing it like its going out of style. No one really worth anything is interested in it because there's nothing concrete to say. The more someone talks about the "meaning of art" and throws around language like "creating art", the less seriously I will take them.

[Anonymous No.2730710]

>>2728587
Ideas, you know others than "this looks like the thing in front of me"

[Anonymous No.2730722]

>>2730710

Are you retarded enough that you think fundamentals means "copy shit in front of you"?

Are you even dumber and think that fundamentals aren't necessary for imaginative work? In fact, even more necessary than observational work.

[Anonymous No.2730744]

>>2730710
Youre embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.2730746]

>>2730722
Unless if by "fundamentals" you mean actually studying the ideas behind past art movements, that is pretty much what it means. I student teach at a middle school and teaching the upper level kids to use perspective and "draw realistically" makes me wanna fuckin kill myself. Nothing's worse than halfway "skilled" art

[Anonymous No.2732336]

>>2730710
>ideas
Well that settles that