/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.2716070]

What do you think of Rebecca sugar? I think her art is nice

[Anonymous No.2716072]

>>2716070
she doesn't look like xj9

[Anonymous No.2716076]

>>2716072
This. Jenny XJ-9 is cute as a button. Rebecca Sugar looks like a 4/10 jewish slut lmoa

[Anonymous No.2716077]

>>2716070
She made one of the best cartoons in recent years!

[Anonymous No.2716106]

>>2716070

I appreciate she hasn't let her cartoon turn to shit like Pendleton ward, at least not yet.

[Anonymous No.2716120]

>>2716106
fuck

[Anonymous No.2716457]

>>2716070
Becky is cute! CUTE!!

[Anonymous No.2716488]

>>2716106
The catch being that it was shit to begin with

[Anonymous No.2716498]

>>2716070
niggas got a point but at the same time I just don't like her art direction. It's not good looking at all.

[Anonymous No.2716529]

>>2716070
She's the best that has happened to cartoon industry since Adventure Time.

[Anonymous No.2716534]

>>2716488
>mfw a /pol/tard babbled his opinion near me

[Anonymous No.2716634]

>>2716534
Thank you for correcting the record.

[Anonymous No.2716643]

>>2716534
Thats a decent amount of cancer in a single post, friend.

[Anonymous No.2716650]

>>2716534
>vector anime reaction image
>being retarded

where the fuck am i

[Anonymous No.2716901]

I actually really admire her art and even as a person

But SU stinks

[Anonymous No.2716905]

She has a nice grasp of WHAT she puts on paper, form and motion wise, unlike the popular opinion that these people can only make flat garbage. Her style is gross but it grows on you, and I like the effort she puts into her work.
But at a con she said she was queer snowflake so she's dropped as a person I'd ever talk to.

[Anonymous No.2717061]

>>2716905
Literally the only thing she said was "[...] as a bisexual woman [...]" when answering a question about the lgbt stuff in her show.

[Anonymous No.2717064]

She could do better than SU 2bh.

[Anonymous No.2717073]

>>2717061
>>2716070
this dude is so enraged about lgbt people having one cartoon, just one, showing a word they can relate to. not even everyone there is gay, literally only the aliens that come from an all female species.
The rest of the cartoon landscape, including R&M and AT, is too scared to clearly show even one gay couple.
It's weird that people take that shit so hard.
>>2717061
by 4chan standards, that means she should be put to death.

[Anonymous No.2717077]

>>2716070 (OP)
this dude is so enraged about lgbt people having one cartoon, just one, showing a word they can relate to. not even everyone there is gay, literally only the aliens that come from an all female species.
The rest of the cartoon landscape, including R&M and AT, is too scared to clearly show even one gay couple.
It's weird that people take that shit so hard.
>>2717061
by 4chan standards, that means she should be put to death.

[Anonymous No.2717093]

>>2717077
>this dude is so enraged about lgbt people having one cartoon, just one, showing a word they can relate to
And he's right to be enraged about it. Sexuality is not an age appropriate subject to the show's target audience. No one gives a shit when LGBTOMGWTFBBQ+ shit is kept on stuff for older audiences (see revolutionary girl utena), it's when you start spreading your degenerate faggotry to the youth that people hate.

Also, >>>/tumblr/

[Anonymous No.2717096]

>>2716070
the cartoon she created feels like it was written by a high schooler

also she looks like a monkey

oh right her art

she's okay but she does this thing where she draws her figures with these weird spindly crypt keeper fingers on their hands

[Anonymous No.2717097]

>>2716070
>dat generic microwave artstyle
>nice
haha, no

[Anonymous No.2717139]

>>2716070
Ugly Art but great storyteller. Specifically in the way she designs stories.
Too lazy to find it but her comic 'Don't cry for me I'm already dead' is amazing.

[Anonymous No.2717143]

>>2717093
>BUT MUH CHILDREN

[Anonymous No.2717160]

I have respect for her.

[Anonymous No.2717163]

>>2717143
>BUT MUH DEGENERACY

[Anonymous No.2717430]

>>2716070
Diante the madman

[Anonymous No.2717435]

>>2717163
>MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE FALLACY

[Anonymous No.2717442]

>>2717435
Nop. Well explained sjw phenomenon, watch some sharpiro or milo my friend.
Real talk this is a /pol/ ass thread, get to drawing you kikes

[Anonymous No.2717451]

>>2717077
>this dude is so enraged
Diante does not make serious posts, he's like a leanandcuisine for facebook

[Anonymous No.2717453]

>>2717163
this is why SU shouldn't exist

[Anonymous No.2717454]

>>2716070
She's the living embodiment of the decline of western society.

[Anonymous No.2717456]

>>2717435
>MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE FALLACY
Take a look at modern society, you complete imbecile. We're already at the bottom of the slope. This isn't something that's going to happen, it's something that's happened.

[Anonymous No.2717461]

>>2717163
>>2717093

>L-LGBT Stuff is corrupting children's minds to b-be more sexual

You're acting like a show about subtly gay rocks are influencing 12 yo girls onto having sex.
This is like that episode from Drawn Together where Wooldoor makes a show that "gays up" children but on a unironic context, jesus christ.

Then the same way LGBT stuff is "corrupting muh children" I guess the same should be said about 80s-90s anime abundance with stuff like the Master Roshi-Bulma skits or Ranma 1/2 (let's face it, half of the people who watched that show probably has an R63 fetish) making kids into perverts, or Power Rangers and Dragon Ball Z influencing violence among minors.

This is some soccer mom logic, I tell ya hwat.

[Anonymous No.2717471]

>>2717435
>literally already happened
>I-IT'S A FALLACY, I TELL YOU! A FALLACY!

>>2717461
>"s-see? L-look, this cartoon says you're wrong!"
lol, fucking manchild. Grow the fuck up. Stop watching children's cartoon.
Also,
>MUH FALSE EQUIVALENCE!

[Anonymous No.2717476]

Degenerate or not, the show is just bad and the art is hideous. I just like the music it uses as an outro.

Also the girl is a huge butterface, damn.

[Anonymous No.2717485]

Honestly i agree. I find everything Steven Universe related very annoying. I'm not even homophobic or anti lgbt or whatever.

[Anonymous No.2717486]

>>2717471
>"An image and ridiculing others can totally make my point!"

[Anonymous No.2717490]

>>2717486
You're making a fool out of yourself.

Stop.

[Anonymous No.2717497]

>>2717486
Spaz

[Anonymous No.2717511]

>>2717461
>making kids into perverts

perverts for their correct gender. at least they could go to the correct bathroom without getting confused

>Power Rangers and Dragon Ball Z influencing violence among minors

people(kids especially) are naturally violent. people(kids especially) aren't naturally buttfucking each other

[Anonymous No.2717516]

You guys really like off topic strawmanning

[Anonymous No.2717518]

>>2717516
You really like terrible childrens cartoons and buzzwords.

[Anonymous No.2717584]

>>2717516
Loomis

[Anonymous No.2717588]

>>2717511
You missed the point so hard that it's like you're playing for the Cubs.

The cartoons are not affecting children at all. The most you can say is that they're being introduced to different concepts possibly earlier than they should. But even then, this is the world that we live in now, where gay people are visibly apparent all around the world without much of an outcry, not that there should be one. You can't hush away the concept of being gay like you used to when we...well, when I was a kid.
Nor can you hush away the concept of a boy wanting to be a girl or vice versa. It's not a case of "Oh, it's not like the good old days!", but purely due to the changing social landscape. More and more people are being connected now and things that were so taboo that they dare not be spoken about are suddenly very easily discussed.

Besides, art can deliver a message, but it rarely influences people as heavily as people like to try and exclaim. Art is appeal, especially in terms of cartoon appeal, and people are attracted to what appeals to them. If a kid became gay and was watching Steven Universe, it's way more likely the kid was gay and decided to watch Steven Universe rather than Steven Universe changing the child's mind to become a homosexual. No show has that power or influence, especially not something on fucking Cartoon Network.

[Anonymous No.2717592]

>>2717588
That's a lot of words for "I want my kids to be faggots".

[Anonymous No.2717594]

>>2717588

>I'm hurt: the post

[Anonymous No.2717595]

>>2717584
generally people don't critique stylized heads fyi even if you intend a troll post

>>2717516
hogartho my mayne
>using pure white backgrounds
wtf i hate SU now

>>2717588
>all around the world
>without much of an outcry
Do you ever watch or at least read some of the news outside usa

[Anonymous No.2717601]

>>2717595
I just liked the image. I was mostly put off by the other bodily extremities, particularly the feet, which are just straight badly done either out of laziness or not knowing.

[Anonymous No.2717605]

>>2717592
>>2717594
If I draw a penis, are you going to suck it?

What if it's a really appealing penis?

>>2717595
>Do you ever watch or at least read some of the news outside usa
Okay, fine, my bad, I was focused more on the US. Being gay in the US is slowly becoming just part of the norm.

Point I'm trying to make is, cartoons change kids about as much as violence in video games did in the 90s, or rock and roll or metal did before that. They didn't. The most you can say is that games, rock and roll, and metal brought those topics to the limelight that would introduce kids to them, but that doesn't make their simple existence a shot in the heart full of a syringe of the devil.

[Anonymous No.2717608]

>>2717605
How am I going to suck a penis if it's on paper?

[Anonymous No.2717609]

>>2716070
I think she looks like matt bennett's twin

[Anonymous No.2717610]

>>2717608
You roll the paper up and suck on it.

For extra effort, get some milk. Drink a little, it'll help your bones for good paper-rolling.

[Anonymous No.2717611]

>>2717609
Holy shit. That's actually pretty close to the mark.

[Anonymous No.2717614]

>>2717609
Who put glasses and a wig on Andy Samberg?

[Anonymous No.2717615]

>>2717610
Then yes I'd do it. Drinking calcium out of boners, just as skeltal intended.

[Anonymous No.2717617]

>>2717588
You speak in absolutes based off 100% on sociopolitical opinions.

Let me tell about the cognitive stages of a child's brain development, as theorized by biologist/psychologist Jean Piaget. Children of 2-7 years find themselves in the preoperational stage. While in this stage, a child is far too young to develop his own morals or to question the morals presented to him. Only afterwards, in the concrete operational stage, they are able to either question or conserve what was presented to him. Conserving, however, is the most common thing to happen. A child raised in a religious family is more likely to turn religious himself. A child like in a degenerate family, however...

So, yes, a child can easily manipulated into thinking the way you want him to think. Hence why I say this cartoon does not contain age appropriate subjects for its target audience.

>>2717605
>If I draw a penis, are you going to suck it?
>What if it's a really appealing penis?

A brain of a child is not an adults brain.

[Anonymous No.2717619]

>>2717605
>Being gay in the US is slowly becoming just part of the norm
wtf man
just let em be

>>2717601
sometimes I want to turn off my critique eye and just enjoy the image
now cant fap much to most hentai so i have to contantly look up some good artists

[Anonymous No.2717623]

>>2717619
I'm very much familiar with this struggle, familia. What I normally do is find an artist I really like who may have an issue or two and just use their sketches as material. it being a sketch seems to justify some inconsistencies for me.

Of course, this would require the artist to be pretty open about their process.

[Anonymous No.2717635]

>>2717617
Your argument would work if Steven Universe was targeted at children 2-7. You could argue the lowest target demographic for SU is maybe 8, but it's definitely a 10+ show, beyond the preoperational stage you mention.

Honestly, if a child as young as 5 is watching SU, they're probably not being supervised and is in a lot worse situation than simply being introduced to stuff like that. Even beyond the innuendo, there's actual fighting and people getting stabbed. Really weird situations that aren't suitable for children that young.

So yes, while I'll concede that I shouldn't have put all kids under an umbrella of 'they can't be influenced by media' and admit I was wrong there, the subjects are perfectly appropriate FOR THE INTENDED AGE GROUP.

[Anonymous No.2717639]

>>2717635
>children at ages 2-7 don't watch cartoon network
nigga, that's the age you watch cartoons the most

[Anonymous No.2717646]

>>2717639
Do you seriously think that every single cartoon out there is intended for "kids" alone? The concept of a target audience is really that foreign to you? Do you like giving a lego set to a 2 year old or a toy pony to a 12 year old?

There's a reason we had Nick Jr. as a kid, and it wasn't to make a block that was made for the mentally retarded. That was a legitimate age group because most of the kids beyond the age of 6 or 7 will be at school at that time. They needed something to show at that time, but they couldn't use the shows that were on later on because parents would be upset about showing their kids anything other than educational shit.
I remember not being able to watch Ren and Stimpy at that age simply because my mom was very upset about it. But once I got to the age of 9 or so, I watched shit like Angry Beavers and Catdog without a problem.

Fucking Catdog. No problem.

Now that more networks decided to do an offshoot network for educational programming and more parents are using streaming for that stuff, Cartoon Network seems to be moving more towards an 8+ demographic. If it were the 90s, something like that would have never happened. SU definitely wouldn't have been picked up, either.

[Anonymous No.2717649]

>>2716070

according to richard williams, her animation sucks because it limits how believable animation

so fuck her and her gay ass cartoon

[Anonymous No.2717650]

>>2717139
Here ya go. http://imgur.com/gallery/ZsACh

[Anonymous No.2717666]

>>2717649
Her animation or the shitty show animation that they send to china to animate?

I bet you've never even seen her animation before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgue81LVZ4E

[Anonymous No.2717674]

>>2717635
Seems like you've misunderstood how the development stages work. Perhaps it was due the way I worded it. It made it look like I was saying the child, in a poof, gains all judgement of an adult at age 8. It's not like that. The concrete operational stage is when the child STARTS, to develop his logical abilities. Enough logic to start questioning the legitimacy of Santa, for instance. But at this stage a child is still highly underdeveloped, as they can't even think hypothetically yet (that's why it's called the concrete operational stage). The child can still be persuaded or coerced into believing what is presented to them, especially if it comes from a figure of authority (the child's parents, a teacher, the TV...).

[Anonymous No.2717703]

>>2717674
I am well aware that a child does not gain judgement like that instantly at age 8, thanks.

It is still well within reason that SU, being billed by most ratings as 10+ (with the least possible age being 8+ acceptably) is fine to have the themes it has presented, as it is still around the time that a child can start to think and form opinions for themselves. It's still much closer to the formal operational stage than the concrete, in any case.

Beyond that, what exactly is SU going to teach the child that is so horrible? Even if it's SO BAD that it's presenting the morals with theming that is very feminine and 'queer' or whatever, they're still fairly sound morals. Stuff like family being important and behind you, people being complicated and being accepting of those complications, forging your own path instead of what is considered 'the right one', etc. Good things to teach a child at that age group.

[Anonymous No.2717919]

>>2717703
>forging your own path instead of what is considered 'the right one'

and yet 4 seasons in and steven still hasn't made that decision

[Anonymous No.2717943]

>>2717919
Course not. Gotta milk the views.

[Anonymous No.2717974]

>>2717093
>degeneracy

The ultimate feels not reals argument. You're nothing but an animal that acts on pathos.

[Anonymous No.2718003]

>>2717974
functionally it's basically the alt-right word for problematic.

somebody stop this culture war, I want to get off

[Anonymous No.2718005]

>>2717666
God it's gross but I still like it

[Anonymous No.2718010]

>>2716077
really?, i just know her from steven universe

[Anonymous No.2718012]

>>2716070
her ed, edd and eddy porn is legit the best thing she ever made

[Anonymous No.2718534]

It doesn't surprise me that a thread about Rebecca Sugar got derailed.

[Anonymous No.2718544]

>>2718534
Wow, really? You're not surprised that a troll thread about an animator who's created one of the most politically correct SJW cartoons on television doesn't get a warm reception on /ic/? You must be some kind of genius.

[Anonymous No.2718623]

>>2717666
Wow this is actually pretty inspired. The ending was total shit. But animation-wise it was expressive and worked well with the sound design.

>wet mouth sounds
*shudders*

[Anonymous No.2719220]

>>2718544
>politically correct
>SJW
nice buzzwords

[Anonymous No.2719279]

Music and backgrounds are god tier
Character design is solid, story is alright. Animation is pretty terrible, but not the worst i've seen.

[Anonymous No.2719291]

>>2716070
Without knowing anything about her aside from this photo, I would guess she has some kind of mental handicap or developmental disability based purely on her appearance.

[Anonymous No.2719498]

>>2716070
As an offical retarded handicap monkey, i declare that i will ruin her in the cartoon indisrtry.

[Anonymous No.2719514]

>>2718003
Don't stop the culture war, I want to get off.

[Anonymous No.2719718]

>>2719279
>Character design is solid

No. Some of the character designs look godawful. Nice silhouette uniqueness, though.

[Anonymous No.2721897]

Bump

[Anonymous No.2721937]

>>2719279
>Character design is solid

Are you sure about that anon?

[Anonymous No.2721944]

>>2716070
she's great but her fanbase is complete shit

[Anonymous No.2722011]

>>2721937
I thought all the gems were supposed to be woman looking even with the whole "genderless" bull, what the fuck this one is just terrible what is that supposed to be?

[OP No.2722334]

>>2717486
>says ''an image and ridiculing others can totally make my point'' as a sarcastic retort
>literally uses an image and ridiculing others to make his own point

m8, you just did the unthinkable. YOU KNOCKED DOWN YOUR OWN STRAWMAN

>mfw you only find stuff like this on 4chan

[Anonymous No.2722370]

>>2716070
All I know is that Steven Universe sends positive messages.

[Anonymous No.2722372]

>>2722011

>were supposed to be woman looking even with the whole "genderless" bull

>genderless

>complaining the gem isn't womanly

Anon. You figured it out yourself.

[Anonymous No.2722373]

>>2721937
The character is supposed to represent the gemstone they are, it'd be an ok character design with better hair, but she chose to use that to reflect the gem better.

[Anonymous No.2722867]

>>2716070
I don't really care enough to have a strong opinion on her. Fanbases that have spawned from her shows on the other hand... I couldn't care less.

Is it a coincidence that they turn out a horrible mess?

[Anonymous No.2723262]

Cancer

Any idiot can draw like her

I just find it boring to do so

[Anonymous No.2723274]

>>2717666
This was surprisingly good.

[Anonymous No.2723283]

>>2723262

[Anonymous No.2723442]

>>2716650
4chan.

are you new?

[Anonymous No.2723721]

She's a nice lady and a huge inspiration for me

It's a shame she scrubbed her old dA, but it was a necessary action.

[Anonymous No.2724836]

>>2716534
>vector on /ic

TRIGGERED.

[Anonymous No.2727160]

>>2717666

Not only she's good animator, but she's also good with composing songs (I believe good portion of SU's songs are composed by her)

Girl has a vision, and with Steven Universe it really comes to shine. You can see she drew influence from works like Sailor Moon and Utena (rly whole Pearl/Rose relationship is pure Utena lookalike), biggest problem I have with the show is that it drew in the absolute worse cancer of a fandom one show could ever get.

[Anonymous No.2727161]

>>2723721
I hope you get murdered.

[Anonymous No.2727165]

>>2727160
I honestly can't tell whether or not you're trolling, or if /ic/ has been overrun by 15 year old girls.

[Anonymous No.2727177]

>>2727165
Didn't mom tell you its ok to dislike certain things?

Problem isn't show itself, problem is when a tween finds out about fandom and then ends up on Tumblr between retards that believe genderfluid and nonbinary is a thing.

[Anonymous No.2727190]

>>2716070

More like (((Rebecca Sugar)))