Alternative Art/Stylization General

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Alternative Art/Stylization General Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk Tue Oct 11 05:28:51 2016 No.2710853 [Reply] [Original]

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This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

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Feng Zhu: “"There is no secret to drawing. The more you do it, the better you'll get. It's all about mileage. A lot of people try to look for shortcuts, but there aren't any. Just bite the bullet and do the work. There is no easy path."

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 07:12:57 2016 No.2710892 File: 160 KB, 855x1800, rin l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wanted to make the two feet distant from each others, did I push the perspective too much for the size of the right one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 07:23:23 2016 No.2710898 File: 127 KB, 659x892, asdada.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2710881 Cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 08:03:56 2016 No.2710915 >>2710892 the back foot looks fine, but the position of the front one is a bit weird, it's like is she flying?

>>	fuckingtripfag !zUW6kX3J5A Tue Oct 11 09:19:39 2016 No.2710957 File: 1.90 MB, 787x1300, spoopy2..png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 09:32:07 2016 No.2710968 >>2710957 holy shit that's fucking cool do you have a blog? digging that style so hard right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 09:55:31 2016 No.2710979 File: 986 KB, 1625x1625, officialcaninescommission.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I finished a commission i was working on. I posted the wip in the last thread, but here's the end result.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 11:52:28 2016 No.2711044 File: 2.27 MB, 1600x1129, El.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Done with a commission

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 12:42:20 2016 No.2711079 >>2711044 Could use some line-weight

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 12:48:44 2016 No.2711088 >>2711079 everything shrunk on scaling so you cant really see the weighting

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 13:12:07 2016 No.2711119 >>2711044 blogger?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 13:16:22 2016 No.2711126 File: 63 KB, 927x531, z1316c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 13:16:32 2016 No.2711127 >>2710892 Add a cast shadow and flip the canvas and see how it looks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 13:20:05 2016 No.2711131 >>2711044 That's some majestic level of half-assery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 14:50:59 2016 No.2711203 >>2710892 I know you're asking about feet, but that right arm seems to be far too short.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 14:58:50 2016 No.2711209 >>2711126 Thumbnail looks magnitudes cooler than the actual image.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 15:03:43 2016 No.2711211 >>2710957 Heh I just saved a drawing under this name spoopy2 not so long ago. Really makes me think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 19:19:47 2016 No.2711440 >>2710957 >>2710968 every fucking time

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 19:26:59 2016 No.2711449 >>2711119 http://elakan.tumblr.com/ http://phanaxial.deviantart.com/ >>2711131 ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 19:56:19 2016 No.2711474 File: 58 KB, 927x531, z1316e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2711209 i thought so too, do you have any idea of how to solve that problem?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 11 20:20:46 2016 No.2711494 >>2711440 ? What do you mean I haven't gotton on /ic/ in a bit

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 00:21:18 2016 No.2711693 File: 448 KB, 1920x1080, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] welp

>>	fuckingtripfag !zUW6kX3J5A Wed Oct 12 00:25:53 2016 No.2711699 >>2711211 post it>? >>2711440 its seriously not fucking me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 00:29:24 2016 No.2711701 >>2710957 Sweet deal dude! More people should check your stuff out, it rocks

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 00:42:18 2016 No.2711712 File: 159 KB, 772x902, Screenshot (42).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 00:49:28 2016 No.2711725 >>2711701 >>2711699 >>2710957 what sort of memery is this

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 00:55:09 2016 No.2711734 File: 250 KB, 1000x750, dr-acula_small.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was trying for a nineties TV cartoon kind of vibe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 01:13:20 2016 No.2711751 >>2711044 The lines are strong but the coloring looks very bland because there is next to no texture on anything. makes it come off as very clipart-y. Learning a little about digital painting would make your pictures 10x more appealing

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 01:13:44 2016 No.2711752 >>2711734 Looks cool. The yellow subtitles really give it that anime stream site bootleg vibe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 01:49:14 2016 No.2711782 >>2711751 pls explain how2fix i'm dumb, i've been trying to change that but i dunno how to

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:00:01 2016 No.2711787

>>2711782
apply texture?
not that anon, but I find the colors quite garish.
The clipart comes from the fact that you color basically using only gradients... no hue shifts, no brushstrokes, no texture.
Maybe simply try to paint in "traditional like" setting? One layer one brush. Get some sense of how to paint doing a master studies to make things simpler.

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:04:52 2016 No.2711790

>>2711782
Not the anon you replied to but to fix it is to focus on what your overall idea is for the picture. The colors are all over the place in contrast and value. Some parts of the colors just look unnatural. The hair looks way too shiny in comparison to everything else. Same with the frilly parts of her leggings, they kind of look like they are made of glass. The eyes look bland/odd and needs more values to match the hair. I think the drawing just needs overall balance and a look at color theory wouldn't hurt.

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:13:32 2016 No.2711794

>>2710853
>Feng Zhu: “"There is no secret to drawing. The more you do it, the better you'll get. It's all about mileage. A lot of people try to look for shortcuts, but there aren't any. Just bite the bullet and do the work. There is no easy path."
>tfw almost didn't notice this

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:24:58 2016 No.2711796

>>2711794
>Feng Zhu: “"There is no secret to mathematics. The more you compute numbers, the better you'll get. It's all about mileage. A lot of people try to look for shortcuts, using algebra, analysis, and whatever, but there aren't any. Just bite the bullet and do the work. There is no easy path."

why are artists so retarded? how many spergs on DA have 10000+ hours of mileage and are still shittier than 95% of /ic/?

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Wed Oct 12 02:27:52 2016 No.2711799

>>2711044
Other anons are right, some line weight and variation would help you tons, right now the whole face and hair area looks really gross because you are using so much bright white with the thinnest of lines to separate the areas.
also those hands need work, particularly the fingers. you can tell you weren't confident with the girls hands at all so they're being blocked by the boobs, but from what you drew of them they are way too small.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:48:13 2016 No.2711815 >>2711796 There is no artist with 10,000 hours of mileage who is still shit, just can't happen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:50:28 2016 No.2711817 >>2711815 Scott adams? Smbc-comics guy? Most manga artists? Chris chandler?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:53:11 2016 No.2711820 >>2711815 Scuba autist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:55:24 2016 No.2711822 File: 3.08 MB, 1800x1270, El 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2711044 >>2711799 >>2711751 I tried

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:55:50 2016 No.2711824 >>2711820 Don't bully kody he did nothing wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:56:26 2016 No.2711825 >>2711796 >>2711817 mileage != mindless drawing 10,000 hours of deliberate practice my dude

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 02:58:26 2016 No.2711829

>>2711817
>>2711820
If they're shit then they haven't put pen to paper for 10,000 hours, keep in mind a length of time ≠ amount of hours, you can be drawing for 20 years and still only have drawn for a few thousand hours, you just can't draw for 10,000 hours without improving to a high level even if you're not trying to.

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 03:06:37 2016 No.2711835

>>2711825
except then you have to make a clear distinction between mileage and mindless drawing, which clearly doesn't exist.
I mean, in the examples I've given there's no issue separating the two obviously, but in some cases it might nit be that clear cut. you can do your exercises and get nothing out of it. then it would probably not count as mileage.

Anyway the point of that quote is
>It's all about mileage A lot of people try to look for shortcuts
and I somewhat agree, but artists also conflate "clear understanding and method" for "gimme shortcuts". Because they're not clever enough to put the principles down, since themselves just got them through mileage. I mean just look at most "courses" on the internet. It's just the guy painting and giving general platitudes.
Do you imagine if you had to learn maths this way?
"okay so know I'm gonna solve equations for two hours. be careful when watching me. there's no other way than solving a gorillion equations to learn."

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 03:13:07 2016 No.2711837

>>2711835
No you're right, the distinction should be made and it's often not. It's why so many people think they need something special because they've been drawing since they were 2 and by the time they get out of highschool they wonder why their animu copies don't look like KJG level

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 03:16:50 2016 No.2711842

>>2711837
completely agree.
>Tesla: "If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. … I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor."

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Wed Oct 12 03:27:43 2016 No.2711852
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>>2711822
your colors are all over the place man,
youve got large portions of yellow, green, red, purple, blue, pink and orange
in the future, try to unify your pallet and avoid over saturating things, like the headboard for example goes to the deepest orange color you can get. the bright white is over used and so everything in the picture looks as shiny as the girl

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 03:47:25 2016 No.2711866 >>2711852 ah right, i'm starting to understand a bit more. will try that out on the next one

>>	fuckingtripfag !zUW6kX3J5A Wed Oct 12 03:59:19 2016 No.2711869 File: 1.88 MB, 811x1300, whip2..png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 04:35:16 2016 No.2711881 File: 2.64 MB, 1600x1128, El 4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2711852 ok last try

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 05:58:45 2016 No.2711921 >>2711835 I hope nobody listened to this plant, he is playing mental gymnastics with simple English.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 05:59:47 2016 No.2711923 >>2711921 care to explain what you mean?

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:01:27 2016 No.2711926

>>2711835
>except then you have to make a clear distinction between mileage and mindless drawing, which clearly doesn't exist.
I hope nobody listened to this plant because you are playing mental gymnastics with simple English. Art isn't math. I guarantee you haven't even finished high school calculus.

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:05:05 2016 No.2711928

>>2711835
>okay so know I'm gonna solve equations for two hours. be careful when watching me. there's no other way than solving a gorillion equations to learn
..but that IS what happens though
they give you the formula/concept
and then they give you several or lots of practice problems that use the formula/concept so that you can understand it better

top kek

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:09:39 2016 No.2711931

>>2711926
Ok, tell me how you know that, and how I can prove you the opposite. If you want to ask questions, I can answer mostly on discrete maths (I worked on the connections between continuous and discrete through topology and analysis, but continuous is certainly not my speciality).

>>2711928
no. that's what you do in at most high school, and disgusts clever people of education. It's less the case in uni, even if happens, and it's more because courses are crappy (stupid exercises are easier to conceive, explain, mark) than anything else.
If you get the general principle, you don't need to apply it much.

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:21:14 2016 No.2711936

>>2711931
>Ok, tell me how you know that, and how I can prove you the opposite.

I'd rather you not shit up a thread with your retardation. "The more you do it, the better you'll get" is sound advice across all boards. That is the definition of mileage. If we're talking about people who put in the hours and reach critical plateau, never to improve after years then that is the fault of them discontinuing their training half of the time the other half their inability or content with leaving their comfort zone.

end rant

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:31:02 2016 No.2711941

>>2711936
>"The more you do it, the better you'll get" is sound advice across all boards.
you see, that's exactly my problem, which goes to the Tesla quote. that's a common mindset for artists, and is the cause of what >>2711837 described.

but then you don't provide arguments for your position. you don't acknowledge the people who do put hours and get nothing, because their 'practice' is flawed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:35:33 2016 No.2711944 >>2711881 You're still not fixing the terrible fingers?!!

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:37:04 2016 No.2711945

>>2711941
>you don't acknowledge the people who do put hours and get nothing

I did. Not only were you a victim of 'no child left behind', but also failed reading comprehension. Here
>because their 'practice' is flawed.
>discontinuing their training half of the time

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 06:48:34 2016 No.2711953

>>2711945
you just throw insults, ignore all points and don't provide arguments to defend your position.

flawed practice and discontinuing training are the same? if you want rather a sport analogy, don't you know people who just train terribly and thus don't progress that much? if you train badly, you're more likely to get injured than get muscles.

you challenge me on the basis of my intelligence, but then you chicken out. what are your mathematical abilities? care to give some pointers?

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 07:05:36 2016 No.2711965

>>2711953
>if you want rather a sport analogy, don't you know people who just train terribly and thus don't progress that much?

Then maybe sports just isn't for them. On the other hand if they keep playing sports and don't progress yet keep on doing it everyday anyway then you have to put into question if they are just content with their abilities. Maybe there is a possibility that they just love to play sports regardless of their aptitude to become a clone Usian Bolt?

However, if they want to win gold medals at the top they need to keep training. The same is principles applies to art and everything else.
>you challenge me on the basis of my intelligence
Because you are purposely playing mental gymnastics to shitpost as always. On the off chance you actually do believe in what you say my condolences to your mother and father for taking care of an ESE kid for 18 years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 07:11:08 2016 No.2711969 >>2711953 obvious bait kill yourself you huge faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 07:14:48 2016 No.2711971 >>2710979 What did people think of this by the way? Is it ignored because it's an anthro cartoon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 08:50:57 2016 No.2712010 >>2711971 yes furries are bad and degenerate otherwise its a decently drawn, yet unremarkable piece

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 09:01:58 2016 No.2712017 >>2712010 Thanks for the feedback!

Anonymous Wed Oct 12 09:38:41 2016 No.2712032

>>2711965
if there's one who don't understand the other, I doubt that's me.

you don't see how of two training regimens, one can make you progress fast and not the other? you resort to innate ability, or genetics, saying that most people can't be Usian Bolt. which is not relevant to the point, since I didn't try to quantify in any way the relevance of innate ability vs practice in artistic ability.

Still, you don't even address the point. You can train badly, and somebody comes along he's going to explain you a few things, bam, progress. You can put the hours, if you don't do it with some intelligence, you're going to make little to no progress.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 10:33:27 2016 No.2712062 >>2712032 Stop shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 11:02:51 2016 No.2712077 >>2712032 hm you know what, i actually was on the other guys side, but this post was good. yea, practicing without some intelligence and self-analysis will def. mean you'll progress alot slower

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 11:19:52 2016 No.2712084 >>2711944 shhh

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 11:33:04 2016 No.2712090 >>2712077 Fuck off james/rep/t-tard

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 12:50:59 2016 No.2712153 >>2711794 Filter here (and all its replies) to clean up the thread of retarded bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 13:05:00 2016 No.2712168 >>2712090 >james/rep/t-tard Are you having a stroke?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 13:09:20 2016 No.2712170 >>2712168 are you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 13:12:42 2016 No.2712173 >>/ic/thread/S2707260

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 13:52:46 2016 No.2712203 >>2712170 I'm not the one with typing giberish

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 13:55:19 2016 No.2712208 >>2710957 look at this shit, christ almighty, end your life, tripfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 14:01:51 2016 No.2712212 >>2712203 Clearly the sight of these names have significance to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 14:08:21 2016 No.2712221 File: 328 KB, 1050x800, halo4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Really hoping to fix the numerous problems as I render it

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 15:25:52 2016 No.2712278 File: 3.16 MB, 939x1236, 213213.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shadow of the Cross x marymagdalene

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 15:29:56 2016 No.2712280 >>2712278 looks pretty bad, but thumbs look great... nice colors, but need serious rendering and better anatomy >>2712221 nice colors, good luck fixing the totally fucked up perspective

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 15:31:12 2016 No.2712281 >>2712280 aight tanks mane>>2712278

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 15:38:40 2016 No.2712285 File: 1.04 MB, 877x1166, jkj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712280 k or this one? iknow whats fucked up with it but which version is less awful?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 15:41:23 2016 No.2712286 >>2712285 both are the same desu, fix the hands, make them as cute and uguu as the face

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 15:46:57 2016 No.2712288 >>2712286 i see, yeah i would use my own hands for reference but they got amputated a while back

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 16:00:28 2016 No.2712301 File: 185 KB, 1646x1080, 10.11.16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712288 >amputated Dude what

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 16:21:17 2016 No.2712315 >>2711044 my only complaint is the breasts look like two peaches sitting on a chest that has no ribs also the fabric going through her butt looks kinda weird

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 19:26:04 2016 No.2712438 >>2712278 >>2712280 Yeah, thumbnail looks awesome, which makes the actual drawing even more disapointing. The hands are far too big, go look for some Anime style references if you're not sure about the proportions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 19:30:10 2016 No.2712443 >>2712315 i could eat a peach for hours

>>	berry Wed Oct 12 21:10:15 2016 No.2712511 File: 807 KB, 540x799, rin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2711881 your art is really good but your colors could use some work, i see a lot of black on her legs. ---- i'm trying brighter colors

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 21:20:11 2016 No.2712515 >>2711971 >>2712010 Lazy execution of an unappealing design = no feedback. Many decent furfags post here and get responses.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 21:22:11 2016 No.2712517 >>2712511 You got better at your color technique. The heart effects imo kinda are ehh but good pic nonetheless. Also the perspective on her wand is off.

berry Wed Oct 12 22:03:54 2016 No.2712541

>>2712517
thanks, i'm also not very convinced with the hearts. One thing i've been trying to learn is how to make everything super cutesy, which explains the wand! but yeah i did mess up the perspective there, i wanted to push the wand into the background ,like it was tilting towards her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 12 22:10:49 2016 No.2712550 File: 1.00 MB, 1200x1032, rooks_castle_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] for my fantasy world.

>>	fuckingtripfag !zUW6kX3J5A Thu Oct 13 03:10:32 2016 No.2712816 >>2712208 yummy

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 03:27:38 2016 No.2712823 >>2712550 a world of fingerprints?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:14:43 2016 No.2712972 >>2712550 really good stuff!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 08:52:20 2016 No.2712991 >>2712550 I can feel the frazetta influence

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 10:44:49 2016 No.2713039 >>2712823 lol >>2712972 thx! >>2712991 im not specifically influenced by him, but he is a pretty great artist.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 12:29:04 2016 No.2713131
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Couuuld anyone help me out? Maybe a redline, what I was going for was to have one leg resting on the 'edge' of the background and one clearly over it but it seems kinda all off. (Going also for an emulation of the PSGB style clearly)

sorry for the shaking line weights still learning brush pens etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 13:05:53 2016 No.2713149 >>2713131 That face is really bad, though the rest is fine. What expression is that even supposed to be.

M !tMTH7Jwnt. Thu Oct 13 13:14:29 2016 No.2713159

>>2712511
aaaayyy
you're copying my signature lmao

that pic is really nice but it's not working because some lazy stuff, those hearths should be drawn again with form and volume, they're so flat it's really killing it
use the eraser with an airbrush brush to make shadows softer on particular spots where the form would make a soft edge
broom hair looks fake, as it's void inside, seems made of paper
don't be afraid to cast shadows, front, neck, bottom of her flexed leg..

and >>2712517 is true

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:04:28 2016 No.2713217 >>2711474 this looks super cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:37:22 2016 No.2713229 File: 961 KB, 1000x1000, Yokai.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did some color practice

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:38:50 2016 No.2713232 File: 2.09 MB, 1920x2560, Naughty Kitty.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I also draw Alot of kitty White

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 14:40:22 2016 No.2713233 >>2713232 put that in porn thread

berry Thu Oct 13 14:54:56 2016 No.2713250
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>>2713159
lolol its true but i've seen it used by other artists too u know x)
the broom is supposed to look fake/fantasy/prop-like, in fact everything is supposed to have that feel to it(pic related)
I'm not sure if its not translating properly or if maybe you guys are overthinking some stuff.

but yeah you're totally right about the hearts i halfassed those i might revisit this drawing and at the very least remove them.

as for shadows i'm trying to keep these as bright as possible but i'll give it a try and see how it looks, i am experimenting with colors after all.

in this piece i actually tried a more detailed background, again, these are supposed to be props.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 15:07:57 2016 No.2713260 >>2713250 >these are supposed to be props Cmon berry, don't make excuses.

>>	berry Thu Oct 13 15:09:45 2016 No.2713262 >>2713260 I'm not I want to draw really cartoony and cute backgrounds its what i'm trying to do i swear ;-; any pointers on that would be appreciated.

Anonymous Thu Oct 13 16:21:49 2016 No.2713315
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>>2713262

Up your color theory game. You can only get so far punching in multiply layer and spamming default MS sparkle effects everywhere. It makes it look very amateurish in that regards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:00:48 2016 No.2713414 File: 48 KB, 974x554, z1309l.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 18:46:13 2016 No.2713448 File: 444 KB, 1008x2000, rin f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2710892

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:01:01 2016 No.2713457 >>2713448 >tfw anon isn't actually all that bad at rendering

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 13 19:13:15 2016 No.2713467 help

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:03:08 2016 No.2713692 File: 239 KB, 847x763, Screenshot 2016-10-13 23.02.27.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 00:37:34 2016 No.2713710 >>2713457 what a disgusting post

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 03:55:34 2016 No.2713824 File: 125 KB, 1145x547, z1321c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:06:18 2016 No.2713855 File: 99 KB, 433x880, if you give a mouse a cookie.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tfw josh won't give you the malk

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:07:32 2016 No.2713857 >>2713710 Probably samefagging, he used to do that tons

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 05:11:34 2016 No.2713863 >>2713857 > projecting this hard

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 06:52:30 2016 No.2713889 >>2713863 Whatever you say, smurf

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 07:04:06 2016 No.2713894 File: 82 KB, 700x875, ss+(2016-10-14+at+07.03.01).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any help appreciated

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 07:59:16 2016 No.2713916 File: 33 KB, 119x119, the-sad-little=owl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2713250 >she's petting me again >fml

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 09:04:27 2016 No.2713930 >>2713894 give her some abs instead of just a flat surface i guess

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 09:17:35 2016 No.2713934 File: 200 KB, 700x875, doingood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2713894 Doing good pal, just watch the ab area.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 13:08:42 2016 No.2714014 >>2710892 B3llybutton is to high

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 14:19:35 2016 No.2714083 File: 223 KB, 1100x1100, nurses.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hows my bad anatomies?

Anonymous Fri Oct 14 14:25:21 2016 No.2714088

>>2714014
This is an example of an unhelpful critique

As a general rule, the bellybutton should align with the elbows, but the arms in the drawing are misaligned, as is the ribcage, head, neck, and collarbone. In fact this drawing is mostly a frankenstein of misproportioned body parts in different perspectives. All of this creates a warped torso, perhaps causing certain things that are mostly in the right spot to look off.

The problem with addressing the bellybutton and only the bellybutton is that it is a minor, surface issue that doesn't help the artist in any way, and in fact could hurt them. If they took your critique to heart and moved the bellybutton lower, they learn nothing of how to fix future drawings.

Please, don't give advice on something that you think is wrong without knowing why it's wrong, or whether or not there is a more serious issue to address.

>>2710892
To the artist who drew this, it looks fine, almost passable. However, study how the torso. Moreover, study how the neck and the head connect. Everything that is wrong with your image starts with your lack of perspective knowledge and not knowing how to generally construct the upper body. One thing that will help you is to always draw the breasts after you have established the general shape of the ribcage. Drawing breasts first causes many painful structural issues that could have easily been fixed if you saved them for later in your construction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 14:41:48 2016 No.2714107 >>2714083 dinosaur arms and broken chicken legs

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 14:45:47 2016 No.2714112 File: 155 KB, 1145x547, z1321c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2713824

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 14:49:50 2016 No.2714117 >>2714083 good dynamism but the center of gravity is off especially in the left pose, you also need some serious studies of the knee area, study how the muscle and bones attach around it will help you a lot

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 15:27:44 2016 No.2714153 File: 1.65 MB, 2048x2048, doodle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i'm aware that the pose is a bit stiff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 15:32:10 2016 No.2714160 >>2714088 > fine, almost passable You know that "fine" is way more valorizing than "passable" right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 15:40:15 2016 No.2714168 >>2712550 NOICE! good job

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 17:02:32 2016 No.2714210 >>2714160 yeah, probably shouldn't have said that

M !tMTH7Jwnt. Fri Oct 14 17:09:46 2016 No.2714213
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>>2714153
stiff r your troughts right now
between the chest and the head there's only 1 articulation
stiff poses are related with body flow, there's no body there m8 lol

<wip
>>2713894
values and form are going alright, plan the pose so it's not as bland as that, straight and laying back
for my taste the tits are falling too much, it's like there's no bra, too close to the belly buttom

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 19:45:30 2016 No.2714373 >>2714213 Her face is ugly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 22:43:50 2016 No.2714516 >>2714107 >>2714117 It wouldn't be creepy if I drew them realistically.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 22:46:47 2016 No.2714520 >>2714083 Cute and creepy at the same time. Got a blog? Hopefully you're as good at rendering as you are drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 23:10:46 2016 No.2714533 Is it possible to purposefully use incorrect anatomy in cartoonish images that enhances the drawing rather than making it worse?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 14 23:43:59 2016 No.2714552 >>2714533 Thats what style is anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 01:06:15 2016 No.2714600 >>2714552 But how far can you go with "it's muh style" before it just looks bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 01:26:26 2016 No.2714610 >>2714600 Just copy adventure time or tumbr's style.

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Sat Oct 15 01:32:31 2016 No.2714614
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apologies in advance for homestuck but i was really happy with how this came out, critique would be great, especially for the composition.
the biggest issue i can see having just finished is the tall girls left leg is wonked

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 01:57:11 2016 No.2714628 >>2714614 >s-sorry I like something Don't apologize you beta. And get rid of that faggy trip

>>	Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Sat Oct 15 02:00:34 2016 No.2714631 >>2714628 its been my experience that its about as bad as posting something like ponies. also nah

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 02:12:24 2016 No.2714641 >>2714628 They might be a girl, are you assuming xir gender?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 02:15:08 2016 No.2714642 >>2714600 If it look bad, then it's bad. If a style that breaks all the rules but looks good, then it doesn't matter. Simple as that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 03:13:21 2016 No.2714671 >>2713448 Damn! Can I commission your colouring skills? You got a blog?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 03:51:08 2016 No.2714687 >>2714671 Stop samefagging, you're only embarrassing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 03:58:03 2016 No.2714688 >>2713448 (you)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 08:11:22 2016 No.2714764 File: 505 KB, 1600x1129, Naga.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this took way longer than expected

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 08:14:03 2016 No.2714765 >>2714764 add some value in background or tail, hard to saw which is which

>>	M !tMTH7Jwnt. Sat Oct 15 08:50:36 2016 No.2714781 >>2714764 arms shoulnd't be hidden you should draw ovals everywhere on her tail so you start to understand it's volume, from midground to bg it's flat as fuck and the hair/bottom of it is not beilable like that, it's the same

Anonymous Sat Oct 15 08:54:07 2016 No.2714782

>>2714764
as they said it's nearly impossible to understand what is going on, it's as if you wanted to create an optical illusion with the spirals... but for the body it's downright perturbing not to be able to make sense of what happens.

One of the reason that wasn't mentioned is line weight, it should be progressively fine as the tail go into background.

Anonymous Sat Oct 15 09:37:11 2016 No.2714789

How do you come up with how you draw stylized? I mean, not the whole thing but say, the triangular shaped nose, there are so many ways do it, when in the end it's still a triangle but it feels different. And there are also ways not to draw it triangular.

It is designing in itself I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 09:40:53 2016 No.2714790 >>2712550 That's great >>2712823 I love how it sounds though

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 09:42:20 2016 No.2714791 >>2712550 Did a fountain pen inspire you for the helmet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 09:48:28 2016 No.2714795 File: 216 KB, 1240x2068, contact.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Snake? SNAAAAAAKE! Come at me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 10:04:00 2016 No.2714805 >>2714795 This looks like it was drawn by a horny, sexually frustrated 16 year old male who needs the sticky.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 10:30:10 2016 No.2714821 >>2714795 beg thread, you tried for the pose, but it's still really bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 12:20:54 2016 No.2714885 File: 132 KB, 660x900, 2016-10-15_210411.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to do that lineart thingy

M !tMTH7Jwnt. Sat Oct 15 12:55:03 2016 No.2714928

>>2714885
is that your cleanup?

you're tracing all the lines exactly the same, a bit cleaner on the face

you're really lazy everywhere else, use references so you know what to do instead of filling space with randomness
don't overwork it, try to do the simplest way possible
construct the planes of the clothes/folding and you will understand them better

you need to realice how wrong bad readability those lines have, for that, use your hand or reframe the pic to only see the fore arm and the hand.

everyline looks the same, so important outlines of shapes do not read, as the outline of the hand in contrast to her chest looks the same as the contrast between a fold and the shirt

don't go opaque if you scribble that much

gestalt to drawing m8

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 12:59:18 2016 No.2714932 >>2714516 It'd be better if you didn't draw at all you worthless piece of shit

Anonymous Sat Oct 15 13:18:05 2016 No.2714942
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r8 the top right I guess

how do you people blend your colors?

if you use sai, do you just use the watercolor tool or do you use a brush with low opacity? I cannot for the life of me get the latter to work well, and I just give up and go back to the water color tool, but that feels cheatsy

also if you use photoshop, what tool do you use in there to blend your colors?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 13:22:41 2016 No.2714946 File: 345 KB, 1002x682, zFug2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2714942 fixed some shid

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 13:24:35 2016 No.2714949 >>2714932 You're an angry one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 13:44:14 2016 No.2714961 File: 283 KB, 1100x806, 2016-10-15_154434.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2714928 Wow, I feel i should save your post and look at it every time i start drawing from now. Thanks a lot

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 13:45:15 2016 No.2714963 File: 79 KB, 1024x683, tohsakacosplayref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] reference

M !tMTH7Jwnt. Sat Oct 15 13:54:59 2016 No.2714969
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playing with color/light composition feels comfy
thinking about rendering it properly depress me trought

any tips welcome

>>2714961
you're so welcome it sounds like sarcasm kek
on that one you're pushing the contrast more

you can watch jake's parker ink art to understand how clearly he order shapes in lenght to the POV with line weight

there's no sacred rule about it, as you can solve that readability trought values or color.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 14:18:50 2016 No.2714989 >>2714969 I mean it senpai Be sure to check that

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Sat Oct 15 14:26:03 2016 No.2714996

>>2714969
her face is really off, like it doesnt feel like lapis at all. I think its the lipstick thats screwing you over the most and how round the nose is at the tip.
best of luck on the wings, getting a glassy and transparent look in front of a galaxy is going to be a challenge, just be careful not to let them get muddy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 15:13:08 2016 No.2715038 >>2714795 >...and then she farts!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 15:53:33 2016 No.2715075 File: 1.63 MB, 1920x1080, kmtihn1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 15:54:13 2016 No.2715076 File: 843 KB, 1820x1024, test2111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2715075

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 15:56:08 2016 No.2715078 >>2715076 you're so good... do you do this loose sketches before or after setting the 3D scene?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 16:04:40 2016 No.2715083 >>2715078 >you're so good... >notice me senpai! >... ayo fuck off back to DA

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 16:06:35 2016 No.2715085 >>2715083 what the fuck, you can't even show some appreciation? should the thread be all just shit flinging?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 16:20:25 2016 No.2715095 >>2715085 all anons aren't the same, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 17:38:00 2016 No.2715154 >>2715083 kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 19:04:32 2016 No.2715222 File: 692 KB, 1000x919, jinny_small.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2714168 >>2714790 thank you much anon >>2714791 no. the shape is supposed to be more of a blade, like a fin on top of the helm heres some life drawing

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 20:48:43 2016 No.2715338 File: 154 KB, 935x638, Screenshot 2016-10-15 19.46.14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2713692 added the character I was (trying) to base the style off of

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 20:51:30 2016 No.2715340 >>2715075 i love the loose, doodle-esque style of your background. blog? >>2714969 alone with the other people said,the cropping is blue balling me. you might as well add her entire figure in there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 15 21:23:06 2016 No.2715363 File: 280 KB, 1400x1228, sketches.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to get better at abstraction. How are my sketches /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 02:26:43 2016 No.2715664 >>2715075 meant >>2715076 with the background thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 02:40:33 2016 No.2715668 File: 921 KB, 720x1280, 47f3f4a9-4e73-4195-a8fa-88bc3aceaee4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 02:42:01 2016 No.2715670 File: 441 KB, 714x1080, 47f3f4a9-4e73-4195-a8fa-88bc3aceaee4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Nose Bro Sun Oct 16 05:13:11 2016 No.2715735 >>2715670 half off firez >>2715076 god

M !tMTH7Jwnt. Sun Oct 16 07:30:44 2016 No.2715808
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>>2715340
kek
not gonna change that, too problematic and I like that framing, looks more like a dynamic shot, feet were drawn innitially but then cut off

>>2715670
values wrong, good on the face, wrong on everything else, subtle contrast suddenly swap to high contrasts, too much pure black outside the face
keep it consistent
value edits or a layer mode that brightening darks and painting there with dark grays will help you balance it instantly (second tool might be more friendly to use)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 08:14:09 2016 No.2715818 File: 121 KB, 500x481, 1436955473886.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2715808 >feet were drawn innitially but then cut off >uh huh

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 08:27:45 2016 No.2715824 >>2715818 >he didn't say they were well drawn

Anonymous Sun Oct 16 08:46:59 2016 No.2715829
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>>2715808
You seem to have skipped over dynamics of lighting and jumped straight to rendering. That's not how light would behave if there was such a bright light source behind a blocking object. See how it almost outlines the subject with light?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 16:15:19 2016 No.2716145 File: 127 KB, 720x1238, Sans titre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2715735 >>2715808 Thanks, I hope this is better

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 16:26:12 2016 No.2716154 >>2716145 value is not your biggest problem when your loomis is so weak. do these facial features look remotely aligned? try tracing the lines to check.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 21:53:05 2016 No.2716515 File: 316 KB, 1077x765, chiaki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My first drawing with a tablet. Is it good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 22:00:56 2016 No.2716523 >>2716515 >Is it good? No.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 22:13:42 2016 No.2716530 >>2716515 Better than us folks who only study and never apply.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 16 23:18:15 2016 No.2716577 >>2715670 >>2716145 She looks like she has 3rd degree burns on her face.

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Mon Oct 17 00:05:34 2016 No.2716618
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getting started on a portfolio piece, trying to figure out my pallet
im really worried about when i get to texturing the grass, everything else I feel like i'll be alright but dang, how do you achieve the balance between over detailed and under defined

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 00:06:43 2016 No.2716621 ALL OF YOUR ARTWORK IS SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT I HOPE YOU DIE F U C K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 00:09:04 2016 No.2716625 >>2716618 How did you start to plan this piece?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 00:09:22 2016 No.2716626 File: 51 KB, 320x320, IMG_20161004_005115.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2716621

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Mon Oct 17 00:15:57 2016 No.2716636
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>>2716625
i was told i needed to have more character moments in my folio, so i spent a while deciding on an interaction between my two characters. once i had that I got the basic gestures i wanted down and tried to flesh out a setting where the interaction would be the focus and also feel natural. from there its just sketching till it feels right, I'm probably going to add some more to the right corner, the framing feels a bit unbalanced

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 00:50:13 2016 No.2716669 >>2716626 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 00:51:15 2016 No.2716670 >>2716669 <3 I LOVE YOU ANONYMOUS

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 01:28:54 2016 No.2716698 File: 209 KB, 1890x1705, 7s2iuW5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Planning on re-rendering this. Any feedback before I do so would be appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 01:58:31 2016 No.2716727 >>2714949 4u

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 02:17:47 2016 No.2716737 File: 420 KB, 2000x3557, Untitled-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hoo boy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 02:46:14 2016 No.2716754 >>2716737 nice lines, but seriously shrink your image i'm not on an 8k display

>>	Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Mon Oct 17 02:54:14 2016 No.2716759 File: 702 KB, 1334x878, wip2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] well thats all for today time for sleep

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 03:18:13 2016 No.2716768 File: 82 KB, 647x1111, Sans titre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2716154 >>2716577 Sigh... idk, I was trying to create something more raw than usual. Thanks though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 03:39:15 2016 No.2716775 File: 289 KB, 800x600, Its_time_to_stop.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2716768 >sigh

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 04:03:31 2016 No.2716784 File: 611 KB, 1399x1500, jshdkada.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] could somebody help me fix the eyes? and see what else is wrong i guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 06:33:08 2016 No.2716844 >>2712077 The guy he's replying to either doesn't even draw or has been so ridiculously lucky that he never had a bad teacher or teaching material and sincerely believes you can just grind life like it's some jRPG.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 06:38:32 2016 No.2716847 >>2716768 hey nile, i thought you quit art

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 07:33:56 2016 No.2716864 File: 179 KB, 647x1111, paintover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2716768

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 07:37:31 2016 No.2716868 >>2716864 nose and jawline are still misaligned. it is much more appealing already though. >>2716784 It doesn't look like you care for proportions at all, so it's hard to say that "there's a problem with the eyes"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 07:50:37 2016 No.2716880 >>2716868 sorry, i was having trouble seeing if the eyes look crossed or out of focus. i really do care for proportions, i just can't see whats wrong.

Anonymous Mon Oct 17 07:55:33 2016 No.2716883

>>2716880
>if the eyes look crossed or out of focus.
not really.

>i really do care for proportions, i just can't see whats wrong.
They're extremely exaggerated, to either you want to push a certain style, or you really don't see how it is the case. If it's the latter, take loomis or any head construction method and superpose the construction lines over your drawing.
Loomis is a circle for the cranium with a few lines cut at thirds and such to place facial features if you really don't see what I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 14:24:34 2016 No.2717156 >>2716868 >it is much more appealing already though. It also lost all character and now looks like a realdoll.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 18:04:42 2016 No.2717321 >>2716847 That's not Nile lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 19:06:20 2016 No.2717361 File: 269 KB, 1200x800, IMG_2795.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 19:09:13 2016 No.2717364 >>2717361 this is awesome, blog?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 17 20:58:00 2016 No.2717455 >>2717364 grach.tumblr.com/tagged/art

>>	Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Tue Oct 18 02:21:41 2016 No.2717697 File: 1.25 MB, 1837x964, wip 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] getting there

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 02:46:03 2016 No.2717712 File: 80 KB, 647x1111, Sans titre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2716864 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 02:56:47 2016 No.2717719 >>2717712 Flip the goddamn canvas

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 03:01:27 2016 No.2717723 >>2711126 >>2711474 I would say the reason it does look bad in full size is because it's supper messy, and in thumbnail you can't see that

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 13:38:59 2016 No.2718132 File: 530 KB, 1260x960, halo5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally done with this crap. Learnt quite a few hard lessons from it so thankfully it wasn't completely for nothing...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 13:51:32 2016 No.2718141 File: 557 KB, 1260x960, halo5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally done with this crap. Learnt quite a few hard lessons from it so thankfully it wasn't completely for nothing...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 13:58:58 2016 No.2718143 >>2718141 >spot reflection blush this triggers me

Anonymous Tue Oct 18 14:05:07 2016 No.2718145

>>2717697
I'm not a great at landscape crit, but here you go.

Multi layer landscapes like that are kinda crutchy. In addition, it seems you chose some of the terrain because it was easy to draw. Grass closeup, "ocean" and plateaus far.

As for meaning of the piece that's subjective, but are you trying to use the birds getting close + darkness to make the correlation that black people are worth associating with? Because I really doubt an infant would have anything interesting to say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 14:14:30 2016 No.2718149 >>2716698 Linework with the face is really unambitious. I would not settle for deviant art fetish linework + shading.

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Tue Oct 18 15:28:04 2016 No.2718211

>>2718145
Ah, im mostly going for atmosphere and storytelling but its good to know that the cloud layer isnt reading as such, hopefully its more clear on the final version. Ill post it when i get home from work

As for the second paragraph i dont know how you came up with that, but again itll probably make more sense when its all finished? Its not meant to be social commentary relating to race or anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 16:36:08 2016 No.2718266 File: 156 KB, 721x944, 3aac43117678cb6e12fc159e6a360956.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any glaring flaws? >>2718141 really nice. I saw your progress work as well. that is some fucking determination man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 16:42:30 2016 No.2718275 File: 158 KB, 642x973, fdacc6ff42b050270e7967dedd722df2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2718266 update

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 17:59:13 2016 No.2718353 >>2718266 Those tits looks really bad among other things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 18:00:28 2016 No.2718354 >>2718275 I like it. Hope to see how nicely you render her body. Wew boi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 18:01:54 2016 No.2718357 >>2718149 Thanks. Very helpful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 18:03:56 2016 No.2718361 >>2718141 Is there literally anyone else that has a style like this? Absolutely impressive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 19:15:05 2016 No.2718440 >>2718141 I think it´s kinda of washed out, trying to hard to be Lalalalack. Try to make foreground, midground and background more visible by working the values more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 20:06:34 2016 No.2718498 >>2716759 moon looks really boring for taking up that much canvas space. maybe put some craters on it or something? I feel like that could go along with the style.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 20:27:06 2016 No.2718508 >>2714614 Looks pretty nice, the only thing triggering my OCD is that the skull makeup doesn't match her smile angle. And lose the trip.

>>	Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Tue Oct 18 20:52:47 2016 No.2718530 File: 1.50 MB, 1719x907, done.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2718498 for sure, it was more of a placeholder than anything I think its pretty much done, hopefully the fog looks more like fog now

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 21:08:28 2016 No.2718535 >>2718530 I actually really really like this, holy shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 22:40:32 2016 No.2718585 >>2718530 Cuuuuuuuuute

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 18 23:31:50 2016 No.2718639 File: 512 KB, 785x757, 1474736467590.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2718361 >having standards this low No wonder these threads have been complete shit since they first showed up 3 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 00:01:20 2016 No.2718681 >>2718639 At least you're here to revitalize it with frogposting shit-talk.

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 00:04:03 2016 No.2718682

>>2718681
It's better than the circlejerking and superiority complex that goes on in these threads.

These threads should be renamed "Beginner thread for people who want to use artistic crutches instead of improving". Because that's pretty much what these threads have been for years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 00:37:54 2016 No.2718714 >>2718682 >It's better than the circlejerking and superiority complex that goes on in these threads. Don't kid yourself, you're not some fucking dark knight of /ic/ fighting injustice and decay by coming into threads to post pepes and whine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 01:59:32 2016 No.2718767 >>2718361 really hamming it up, eh? >>2718639 nice contribution >>2718682 I agree to an extent

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 14:24:26 2016 No.2719114 File: 307 KB, 1178x861, z1325g.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Oct 19 19:08:39 2016 No.2719283
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This is the best I am capable of right now in my journey. been grinding and studying, but I can't do much better than this. I don't know how to improve, and I don't know where to go from here,

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 19:27:49 2016 No.2719297 File: 300 KB, 878x960, derivativeasfuck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bullshitting at work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 19:28:29 2016 No.2719299 >>2719114 This would look pretty cool as a real painting. I like the graphic shapes mixed with the more rendered subject matter. Horse is random af, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 19:54:58 2016 No.2719317 File: 252 KB, 1021x574, efc6a608-035e-47d5-8b61-3369c5c3fbd6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 20:26:01 2016 No.2719332 >>2719283 It's like you ran out of canvas. She's cute but has no hips (as in no hip-bone, not that she's not thicc) and the legs are half as long as they should be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 19 23:08:53 2016 No.2719425 File: 142 KB, 688x962, monk1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2710853 Can I get some critique on this one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 00:26:36 2016 No.2719472 File: 411 KB, 716x716, 2016-10-19 23.25.37.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alpheba aka The Wicked witch

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 01:34:03 2016 No.2719494 File: 149 KB, 718x960, WhyDidGrowIntoThis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate the way I draw and wanna die

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 01:35:48 2016 No.2719496 File: 149 KB, 718x960, WhyamILikethis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate the way I draw and wanna die

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 02:37:17 2016 No.2719532

Im looking to start drawing smut and there's something thats been bugging me. Whats with the whole weird asthetic in anime style drawing where the male participant has gross colored skin and is all bony or sinewy? The skin tone is always dark and desaturated. You can see the tendons in the back of their hands and shit.

I get that the woman is the focal point but I still like the guys to be decent looking. I dont get why seeing gross looking guys fuck hot chicks is sexy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 02:39:44 2016 No.2719534 >>2719532 Japan

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 02:58:05 2016 No.2719550

>>2719283
what the hell dude, colors and rendering are rather nice but what is this anatomy? you came to the right place, if you want to make progress go study loomis.

>>2719532
>I dont get why seeing gross looking guys fuck hot chicks is sexy.
you don't see yourself as an abhorrent anomaly of creation? it it's the case, you should understand why it's more exciting to have goblin looking big bellied men fuck the sexy girls. It eases identification.

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 07:18:24 2016 No.2719662

>>2718530
this is really cute anon
the little girl on the right could use a little bit more life to her though
the sketch was better imo, because the expression is presented more clearly
lean her towards the left and open her mouth, don't be afraid to express more feeling

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 07:24:14 2016 No.2719670 >>2719532 it's a form of domination and it makes the girl seem slutty (that they would fuck anyone) or humiliated that they are forced to fuck someone ugly

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 08:30:13 2016 No.2719706 File: 565 KB, 2048x1440, numer 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Come at me bitches. Jokes aside,any suggestio

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 08:39:32 2016 No.2719712

>>2719706
Not bad, but have you ever seen a naked human? They have skin and fat on top of their muscles, even if they're buff.
The pose is pretty stiff and doesn't show perspective, it looks like a blueprint of how to stab a guy, not an actual guy getting stabbed. Less rendering, more form.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 08:41:38 2016 No.2719714 >>2719712 i think rendering is pretty important desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 08:42:43 2016 No.2719717 >>2719496 That's not bad, figure out how to draw ears and allign the noise. you can study eyes later.

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 09:27:18 2016 No.2719739

>take feng zhus "muh mileage" to heart
>drawing circles since january and theyve improved >however i am actually getting noticably worse at any other strokes
>when i try to make anything else i get discouraged and habitually continue popping out circles
>literally can only draw decent but slow ass circles and straight but inaccurate lines

holy shit, free me you faggots

bonus
>watching one of fengs live q&a sessions
>hes browsing the internet on stream and opens history to get his portfolio
>4chan, countless porn sites visible

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 09:34:41 2016 No.2719744

>>2719739
Those circle and line exercises are meant to be like 15-20 minute warmup for actual studies you realize? Pick 2 out and do them and then start actually drawing. When feng zhu said you should be drawing 5-6 hours a day he obviously didn't mean drawing fucking circles.

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Anonymous Thu Oct 20 10:56:03 2016 No.2719785
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>>2719283
your approach to art is completly intuitive isnt it, you're making huge mistakes, if you make a wrong ground to work with, you're gonna polish a turd
use references of a whole body, don't just ref individual parts of different pictures, the figure is broken

tried to keep the pose, see the ovals I draw around body parts? do that to understand volume and direction

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 11:14:13 2016 No.2719793

Anyone got an article or something on character design? Most of the ones I seen on google are for like super heavily cartoony characters. Trying to make my characters not look like dA donut steels or just straight up copies (e.g when I really like how a character is designed its hard not to just lift what I liked from it)

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 11:49:01 2016 No.2719831

>>2719744
>When feng zhu said you should be drawing 5-6 hours a day he obviously didn't mean drawing fucking circles.

Don't listen to this faggot he's trying to ruse you into thinking that you shouldn't be drawing basic forms, keep drawing circles m8 you're definitely going to make it and remember /ic/ is a bucket of crabs stepping all over each other trying to get out don't fall for this shit.

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 12:28:19 2016 No.2719856

>>2719739
fucking hell i meant peter han i just realized

>>2719744
>>2719831
thank you both for your input, it means a lot to me

I'll try to treat mechanical exercise as more of a warmup and time myself, if i cant shit anything out after the 20 minutes i'll assume I didn't want to be drawing anyways and ill go do something else

M !tMTH7Jwnt. Thu Oct 20 13:06:21 2016 No.2719892
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sketch so far

not sure if try doing logan sleeping and with his face painted for trolling or just KOed and regenerating, probably the second may be funnier

any feedback welcome

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 13:48:45 2016 No.2719922
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Anons, is there a 'proper way' to absorb a specific art style?

Recently i'm shifting from environment design to characters, and I want to have a style similar to Shiyoon Kim, Mayumi Nose, Britanny Myers etc.

I have no idea how to 'absorb' this style just by copying it, is there a proper method of training that can help me? A schedule, something like it...

Everytime I draw I tend towards realism, so drawing this more 'cartoonish' style is more difficult.

>>	Kaoru ╰[ 0﹏0 ]╯ Thu Oct 20 13:58:44 2016 No.2719932 >>2719785 Naruhodo.. This was very helpful anon-kun, thanks to you so much. I will be back with considerable gains. domo, anon-kun! sayonara.. I am to be returning sometime again.

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 14:36:30 2016 No.2719969
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>>2719892
Bad. She looks cute but your gesture and anatomy are out of place.

>>2719922
kinda cute

>>2719769
it looks fine but I dont like your anatomy.

>>2719425
learn anatomy and muscles, looks good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 14:38:42 2016 No.2719971 >>2719892 Lovely work. Do you always draw inside those lines like a box? I watched some video on youtube where they say if you do that you improve your proportions. I really like they way you drew her hand, maybe the little finger is too big? Show more

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 14:40:25 2016 No.2719973 >>2719769 More from your sketchbook? It looks good. The guy in the right looks like a space pizza delivery boy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 14:55:31 2016 No.2719982 >>2719969 >Tells others to learn anatomy >Missing tendinous inscriptions, right external oblique and left brachioradialis. pls redo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 14:59:53 2016 No.2719986 >>2719969 don't post your work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 15:03:57 2016 No.2719988 >>2719922 I think those are generic Western animator art styles (mainly Disney), maybe you should try to learn basic animation sketching. Those animators tend to draw really expressive and exaggate on which the style's principles are based on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 15:56:21 2016 No.2720020 >>2719739 Link to the history? Sounds hilarious and I want to see this.

>>	M !tMTH7Jwnt. Thu Oct 20 15:58:13 2016 No.2720022 >>2720020 someone showed in Level Up! group how he drew 1k shitty cubes.. rlly

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 16:32:48 2016 No.2720042 >>2719714 Well, you're wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 17:34:50 2016 No.2720067 >>2719969 All the people you told to learn anatomy seem to have much better grasp on it than you do and a much better grasp on form and shape.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 17:57:27 2016 No.2720075 File: 20 KB, 1122x545, z1329b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 18:18:41 2016 No.2720089 File: 1.00 MB, 2338x3211, img007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just some dandy thickness

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 18:33:48 2016 No.2720100 File: 280 KB, 1024x576, efc6a608-035e-47d5-8b61-3369c5c3fbd6_20161020163258058.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2719317

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 18:56:54 2016 No.2720118 >>2720089 cute !

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 21:05:24 2016 No.2720198 >>2719973 >see you soon space delivery boy

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 21:06:31 2016 No.2720200 >>2719969 screen capped for later use as a meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 21:11:33 2016 No.2720204 File: 84 KB, 673x621, z1330h.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 21:17:55 2016 No.2720210 File: 215 KB, 600x800, Tier_Harribel_by_DesertKaiju.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] UnderBoob best boob

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 22:23:46 2016 No.2720269
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i always draw arms so fucking big. anyone have any general advice before i get too into this?

also any general tips on not having your work so messy? other than erasing deleting and getting good

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 22:44:50 2016 No.2720282 >>2720269 If your want your work to be cleaner, make it a habit. Strive for cleaner lines every day. There's not much of a trick to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 20 23:01:53 2016 No.2720299 >>2720204 If you stopped painting like a complete retard you would be somewhere by now. However its been an entire year now and youre so absorbed by your style that you refuse to make timely progress.

Anonymous Thu Oct 20 23:14:59 2016 No.2720304

>>2719739
you're only getting better at drawing circles. nothing else. the same thing applies to drawing straight lines.
i mean it's worth something, but you aren't getting any "mileage" and experience where it actually counts: drawing.

i also only do them as warmup.

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Fri Oct 21 01:19:27 2016 No.2720368
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>>2719662
oh dang thank you! looking back on it today I can see i really toned her down, I didnt realize how stiff she got

New piece progress, going for more life and emotion

Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Fri Oct 21 01:35:35 2016 No.2720376

>>2719922
i really like this
especially the one on the left, I wish I could simplify down that well and still get such good expression

>>2720210
she needs a lot of work on her torso, shoulders and arms. Its like you really wanted to draw the boobs and crotch piece and treated the rest of her body as an after thought. I mean draw what you love but without the context of the rest of the image up to par its just going to drag everything else down

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 01:43:11 2016 No.2720385 >>2720368 Really cute and appealing style, love how well you can portray emotion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 02:54:59 2016 No.2720418 File: 2.06 MB, 1168x1606, kwhatever.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] am i an anime or a cockroach desu weeb weeb weeb weeb weeb

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 03:03:29 2016 No.2720422 >>2720418 loomis

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 03:07:49 2016 No.2720426 >>2720418 I like this

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 03:08:24 2016 No.2720427 jjfrenchie style kinda,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOnCLVd6JRc

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 04:02:42 2016 No.2720457 >>2720269 How can you even work with all that going on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 07:05:54 2016 No.2720519 File: 1.09 MB, 1275x1650, 555.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tree of life or 命の木whatever

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 07:21:46 2016 No.2720524 >>2720368 is the disney tumblr style really that popular these days? is it the new anime?

>>	Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk Fri Oct 21 07:41:16 2016 No.2720536 new thread >>2720535

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 08:07:10 2016 No.2720540 File: 230 KB, 1920x1080, giblinerc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2710853 Little goblin guy I made in sai.

>>	Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd Fri Oct 21 09:41:21 2016 No.2720588 >>2720524 looking disneyish helpful in this case, im bringing it to a portfolio review with disney though I'm not seeing how its tumblr

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 09:42:24 2016 No.2720590 File: 1.18 MB, 1024x1024, ewrzecyb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 12:11:55 2016 No.2720667 >>2718530 this is great, now draw them fucking

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 13:18:33 2016 No.2720724 File: 456 KB, 720x960, Gardeena Color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any anon with traditional media.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 16:59:22 2016 No.2720853 >>2720418 Surely you realize how disgustingly disproportionately fat her thighs are right? They look like they would be covered in cellulite

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 18:54:37 2016 No.2720908 >>2720457 i do my best

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 19:20:48 2016 No.2720935 >>2714213 Is she wearing a wig

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 21 23:46:18 2016 No.2721220 File: 264 KB, 929x1323, 1477105404086.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 23 00:44:27 2016 No.2722151 File: 246 KB, 885x585, Screenshot 2016-10-22 23.41.59.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lets gooo

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 23 18:34:54 2016 No.2722721 >>2720724 omg this is so weird. is that boobs, those things resting on her crotch? love it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 24 02:56:43 2016 No.2723072 >>2719496 looks like one of those ukiyu-o paintings dont feel bad

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