cat-pun on tumblr.17 years old. how bad do you want to kill yourself /ic/?

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Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:43:58 2016 No.2675920 [Reply] [Original]

cat-pun on tumblr.17 years old. how bad do you want to kill yourself /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:47:43 2016 No.2675928 >>2675920 I want to kill myself, but not because of some teenager's mediocre art.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:54:23 2016 No.2675942 >>2675920 Go home cat-pun, you're drunk

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:54:28 2016 No.2675943 I want to make sure I live long enough to surpass this person first.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 00:57:04 2016 No.2675946
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Jean Leon Gerome painted this at the same age, I have two suggestions for you 1. raise your standards for what good art is 2. realize that maturity is as much an aspect of art-making as technical skill; this means look at the subject, look at what unique things the artist is bringing to his/her art if anything, and realize what your yourself have to offer viewers before you start harboring jealously towards cutesy/spottily-rendered fanart

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:02:48 2016 No.2675954 File: 218 KB, 935x1122, self-portrait-1852.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2675946 He painted that at 22 you knob. Alma-Tadema painted pic related at 16 though, and he had no formal training at that point either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:11:12 2016 No.2675968 File: 180 KB, 296x444, 1473111946852.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Kill myself >Over Tumblr Undertale art God, I'm not THAT petty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:12:24 2016 No.2675972 I want to die but not because of some stupid kid who I don't know.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:18:24 2016 No.2675981

>>2675920
The fact that you measure yourself against other artists instead of spending your time practicing and improving yourself (In art, as well as other ways) is probably why you're suicidal. Grow up, literally. Take responsibility for yourself and your progress, and then stop making retarded threads.

Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:20:09 2016 No.2675984 File: 686 KB, 1280x1065, tumblr_o6s97wM6KT1r3cazzo3_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pic related is done by a 17 y/o from this board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:20:21 2016 No.2675985 >>2675920 This is only slightly not garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:20:42 2016 No.2675988 File: 494 KB, 540x781, tumblr_ocmy4mtqFN1v2z03bo1_540.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pic related is done by a 16 y/o from this board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:21:15 2016 No.2675989 File: 768 KB, 1128x1806, 1472675662195.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pic related is done by a 18 y/o from this board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:22:17 2016 No.2675991 pic related is done by a 17 y/o from this board. stop caring op.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:22:19 2016 No.2675992 >>2675988 I want to be impressed, I really do, but then I look at it critically and see it for what it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:22:49 2016 No.2675994 File: 41 KB, 540x460, tumblr_oc6l9zGJ8O1skjbgeo1_r1_540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2675991

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:23:08 2016 No.2675995 >>2675989 yeah but that's not impressive at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:41:38 2016 No.2676020 >>2675989 not as good as you think bra. lacking a lot of fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:44:11 2016 No.2676025 >>2675988 this is garbage.it lacks a lot of important detail,limited because artist is 16. The horns are placed incorrectly too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:45:50 2016 No.2676026 >>2675989 typical amateur. Hiding feet because they're too fucking lazy to learn. Not using reference.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 01:57:20 2016 No.2676036

>>2675920

OP if you're not on the level of someone younger than you it doesn't mean anything. If you're not 30 then stop giving a shit. Much of these still have much to learn like you, they just had discipline earlier in their lives. Maybe you were busy doing something during that time, or working on school work instead? Who knows.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 02:21:28 2016 No.2676051 File: 1.69 MB, 1133x1566, Vioriee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2675920 Viorie has 15, and she is very beatyfull

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:16:54 2016 No.2676092 >>2675989 what conveniently-placed mounds of rock in the foreground

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:23:56 2016 No.2676095 >>2675920 At some point, you will have to start dealing with your depression and insecurities, anon. You can't keep making these threads and project your mental state onto others. It's just not healthy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 03:46:23 2016 No.2676117 >>2675988 he's not 16 and mozart started making full fledged compositions at the age of 5 step up nigga

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 04:04:23 2016 No.2676136 >>2675984 i thought she was 16

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:03:26 2016 No.2676177

>>2675920
Okay, so they've drawn for their whole life. They took 17 years getting to there. Someone who has never drawn can get better in a year with enough study, and having it focused correctly.

If you can't get to that level in a year, and you're really trying, they kill yourself.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:29:13 2016 No.2676191
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>>2675994
What on earth was an actual fuckin point studying someones life drawing digital sketch? Figure was already interpreted by the artist, you were just copying spots of values.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 05:43:31 2016 No.2676200 >>2676191 Have you never heard of a master copy? It's seriously one of the most common and most important exercises

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 06:33:05 2016 No.2676220 >>2676191 I think even catbib himself told you that there are masters of past out there to copy. And if you just has an itch to copy his work choose the finished one, not a quick pose drawing. It is like copying Vilpu's gestures.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 06:55:18 2016 No.2676236 >>2675988 >>2675989 >tfw these are better than 76% of /ic/

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:08:17 2016 No.2676245 >>2675920 I'll kms at your shitty standards for art

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 07:41:45 2016 No.2676250 kids these days are talented af what's new?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:15:56 2016 No.2676267 File: 35 KB, 223x284, crying.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2675995 >>2676020 >>2676025 >>2676026 >>2676092 H-H-HAHA GUYS THESE SUCK A FOUR YEAR OLD COULD DO BETTER

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:30:33 2016 No.2676275 >>2676267 you forgot your tripcode, nilefaggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:49:08 2016 No.2676290 >>2675946 looks like Micheal Cera

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:51:24 2016 No.2676293 >>2675920 but op im also that a ge......

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:52:32 2016 No.2676295 >>2676051 she is 17 now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 08:56:00 2016 No.2676297 >>2676293 MMOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDSSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:03:40 2016 No.2676301 File: 19 KB, 480x480, kzksw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2676297 im also a qt gril desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:05:32 2016 No.2676305 >>2676301 P Y W or G T F O

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:06:28 2016 No.2676306 >>2676025 Hmm, like what? Granted for the horns, but I'm curious to hear about that important detail.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:07:31 2016 No.2676307 >>2676305 but what if my work is shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:14:13 2016 No.2676312 >>2676307 that's for us to decide bby ;^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:14:14 2016 No.2676313 >>2676307 >17 >isn't halfway decent due to the resources you've grown up with 1-800-come on now.jpg

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:21:21 2016 No.2676316
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>>2676313
yeah I hope to be somewhat good in the future I wish I had started drawing from an early age..., for now I am just absolute garbage and im trying hard to study loomis and get ok at art, it makes me depressed when I see these artists that are the same age as me that are already pretty good....

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:27:48 2016 No.2676321 >>2676316 You're rendering is okay I like your use of color but dude, work on your actual drawing. Like on pencil and paper. You're 17 so it's not a big deal, work on them faces and bodies you'll be fine in a year.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:35:24 2016 No.2676327

>>2676321
thanks heaps dude, yeah I figured that im just going to drop digital drawing completely and just perfect realism first my dude loomis is helping me a lot, although sometimes I wish I had a teacher since the only art lessons I get at school is how to write an essay critiquing Jackson Pollock's "art" ...., that drawing was just for a friends birthday so I dont spend all my drawing time attempting to create full illustrations, as I understand they will all look like garbage until I have fully understood my fundamentals but yeah I really hope if I keep this method of practice up I will be half decent in a year

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:35:53 2016 No.2676329 All I see is stereotypical stylized cheese. " cat pun " should show me some real portraits or figure drawings. Maybe that will inpress me

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 09:51:38 2016 No.2676337

>>2676327
School won't help you much, there's a clear distinction between "art" education and "drawing" education (idk what better term to use). Sadly even practical art classes can be hit or miss, I took university drawing and painting classes which ended up being complete bullshit with people doing absolutely random stuff.

Stay on /ic/ for the crits, but only if you understand what they're saying and how they can be used to improve your work. Don't forget generic, unfounded "this is good/bad" feedback is essentially useless if it doesn't come with an explanation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:16:05 2016 No.2676347 >>2676117 *she is definitely sixteen

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:19:57 2016 No.2676353
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>>2676327
I know how that goes, didn't take an art class til I was your age and only got to one life drawing class in college before I dropped out. Learning on your own is tough but you got /ic/ and the whole internet to help you out.

I would honestly not worry too much about being "bad" right now- you're 3 years from 20, seriously, just have fun and make more drawings for the sake of it. Create all you can in your spare time, study, and draw from life with pencil and paper for about half a year like you said and compare. It's not garbage, just has some glaring flaws (mainly due to weak construction IMO, work on your faces and the way the head/joints connect to the body esp) but if you grind in some sketchbooks and then go back to making a full digital illustration I bet it will look a lot more like how you want it to look. Good luck young anon.

There's a bunch of 17-19 year olds on this board that are pretty good, fuck all of you t b h. Keep working and you'll be very good by the time you're like 22.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 10:22:04 2016 No.2676356

>>2676337
sadly that is true... what you experiences is my worst fear, I hope to at least find a good place where you actually learn properly, but yes sir I will do, I know a lot of people here are pretty harsh but it doesn't bother me since I acknowledge I am bad lel, but not gonna lie this place has given me a good start on how to start training my fundamentals as well as some cool people that give extremely handy advice, and once again you have my thanks

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:04:34 2016 No.2676396
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>>2676353
such encouraging words...... i will work my hardest, i honestly don't know why i chose to become an artist.... but im set on it now and i guess i have to work extra hard if i want to keep up with all those around me, although i do love the idea of drawing what i want, i also kind of find it fun the just train my fundamentals, and since i have absolutely 0 social life, i really can focus on giting gud, no chill for me, i just wonder how fast i can improve if go full out and not screw around.... i actually started drilling fundos like at least a few of months ago, before that i just tried to draw from imagination which i regret so much, ive improved with my anatomy somewhat but its still shit, the drawing on the left here is from march 20th 2016, and the one on the right is one i did for fun a couple of days back, but don't worry you will usually always be one step ahead of us youngsters due to more experience and maybe more practice, unless they are a prodigy of some sort...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:16:05 2016 No.2676404 >>2675920 I have noticed the tendency that the most of the young artists who are considered "taleneted," stop improving after a while and stay at the same level for years and/or become even worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 11:29:09 2016 No.2676415 File: 287 KB, 702x556, 1473621976126.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >http://vetyr.tumblr.com >16 years old >never studied Loomis/Hampton/Vilppu

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:24:05 2016 No.2676457 >>2676404 Got any examples to prove your point?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:29:25 2016 No.2676465 >>2676095 I think making threads is a great idea. and is a great way to deal with depression, it's socializing with other artists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:33:06 2016 No.2676468 >>2676306 Sure. How about you start working with a smaller brush. Get those textures in, work on edge control,make shadows more contrasted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 12:58:00 2016 No.2676487 >>2676468 How about little redline?

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:03:53 2016 No.2676495

>>2676468
It looks fine. It's a quick sketch so obviously won't have the same amount of detail that a 20 hour painting would. If anything I think the colours are the weakest point of her work when it comes to painting, she's pretty good with edges, form, values, and simplification.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:04:00 2016 No.2676497 >>2676487 I just gave you advice. now fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:06:30 2016 No.2676502 >>2676495 I doubt it,looks like a couple hours work, that's not a sketch lol. edge control is loose, could tighten things up a lot. The colors are shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:16:26 2016 No.2676521 >>2676497 Advices from people who can't draw worth nothing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:19:30 2016 No.2676524 >>2676468 Not the artist, but if you consider this level of edge control & values garbage, what are you doing on /ic/? Genuine question, I've seen comments like that before but never gotten an answer.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:20:33 2016 No.2676526

>>2676356
There's nothing wrong with joining an online art group, active groups are honestly much more useful than /ic/ because you're almost guaranteed to get feedback, plus people are less tempted to act like retards when you can identify them with a username.

/ic/ is where I go for resources, discussion, and keks, but I don't even bother posting my art on here anymore because the quality of the feedback is a complete crapshoot. It is good for hearing about books, techniques, etc. though

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:23:13 2016 No.2676530 >>2676415 it's because they're just naturally talented at art

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:27:35 2016 No.2676534 >>2676524 Anon was giving criticism. Take it or leave it. And yes. You are the artist, you don't need to hide.

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:32:03 2016 No.2676541

>>2676534
Hurr durr, by that same logic I might as well call you out for being the buttmad anon that called a decent picture shit and refuses to explain his weirdly lopsided standards on a site of tards.

I'm not questioning the accuracy of the criticism, merely its odd presentation, which frankly, fascinates me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:35:38 2016 No.2676547 >>2676530 No, it's because they actually draw every day unlike 95% of /ic/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 13:53:55 2016 No.2676567 >>2676547 the collab comic thread really opened my eyes on this, jesus

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:07:04 2016 No.2676578 File: 50 KB, 600x444, 1406186059344.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2676353 >tfw i'm already 22 and just started

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:12:44 2016 No.2676583

>>2676578
I'm 22 and just started this year too (not from scratch, but I didn't know exactly what perspective was until this summer). Been making great progress so far.

Don't stress, amount & quality of time invested trumps by far your age, and you can "git gud" within 1-2 years if you go hard.

If you draw for a hobby you should be fine. If you're 22 and have just started to draw with the hopes of being a professional, well, get to work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 14:31:47 2016 No.2676606 >>2676583 i don't have any desire to become a professional concept artist or enter the animation industry or anything. i just want to draw the stuff i've wanted to draw forever

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:19:36 2016 No.2676656 >>2675920 actual shit >>2675984 kinda cute but still shit >>2675988 too sloppy, shit >>2675989 polished turd, i.e shit >>2675994 nothing special, shit >>2676051 worst out of the bunch Atleast to try to impress me anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:21:14 2016 No.2676660 >>2676656 actual shit post

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:29:09 2016 No.2676668 >>2676656 >expecting pro level work from self taught teens

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:31:00 2016 No.2676671 >>2676660 A typical /ic/ post, you mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:31:28 2016 No.2676672 >>2676660 no honest post. bluntly put,but he's right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:32:03 2016 No.2676674 >>2676656 post werk

Anonymous Mon Sep 12 15:43:25 2016 No.2676684
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>>2676674
You're a retard if you think I'm gonna post my work, any idiot could see that these are all memetier deviantart garbage

Pic related is a portrait Picasso drew at the age of 15, what makes you think your work is better than him?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:02:43 2016 No.2676706 >>2676684 That's a photo of Alfred Hitchcock.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 12 16:03:25 2016 No.2676709 File: 161 KB, 740x746, 1456058341683.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2676684 truly ebin

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 03:02:23 2016 No.2677407 >>2675920 I'm surprised nobody said this before... ... but this thread fills me with determination.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 03:05:41 2016 No.2677412 >>2677407 That's the mindset you should have mate, seeing someone who's younger than you being really far ahead of you should light a fire under your ass

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 03:27:21 2016 No.2677429 >>2676583 28 here, nig. Don't stress about this petty shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 03:30:09 2016 No.2677433 >>2677429 Why do you say that?

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 05:49:17 2016 No.2677518
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Instead of whining on /ic/, these people are actually drawing. Try to do something and stop complaining about how bad you are. See the good side of it. If someone who's 16y/o can do it, why you couldn't?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 06:03:33 2016 No.2677522 >>2677518 >Instead of whining on /ic/, these people are actually drawing. Why won't you listen to your own advice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 06:51:17 2016 No.2677544 >>2677412 No, Anon, he's making an Undertale meme

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 12:12:46 2016 No.2677745

>>2675920
Anon that's just a series of tutorials applied to a cutesy rough sketch.
In terms of talent it's not as far away from the average artist as you may believe.

That said, it doesn't bother me because her progress has no effect on mine and there's nothing wrong with more good art to look at.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 14:51:39 2016 No.2677878 >>2676457 Sakimichan

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 14:56:23 2016 No.2677882
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>>2677518

What the fuck is with these companies slapping really terrible art on their packaging? Does the marketing team just go "We need art for the packaging." "Well my 13 year old son is a pretty good artist."

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 14:58:09 2016 No.2677884 >>2677878 when you make 40K a month why would you ever change what you do, regardless of whether or not its "improvement"?

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 14:59:27 2016 No.2677885

>>2677882
I always figured it was because most of the people buying the product draw like that so it appeals to them. It feels achievable and shows them what they can do with it. Otherwise it would be like selling MSPaint with the cover made by Mullins. Sure, someone out there can do great things, but if you expect that yourself you will be disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:01:13 2016 No.2677887 >>2677884 Because not everybody is motivated 100% by money? Or even if you are motivated by money, becoming better would only make it easier to make more money. If she wanted she could also probably retire soon and just focus on her art.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:06:34 2016 No.2677897

>>2677885

That was my guess, but even before I could draw I could recognize that sort of art is crap. Why would you advertise "you can draw this poorly made shit with our product"?

It'd be like McDonalds advertising its food by showing off a soggy flat burger. It's probably closer to the average thing but it doesn't actually appeal to anybody.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:07:58 2016 No.2677899 >>2677887 ah basing your points on outliers, sasuga.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:08:16 2016 No.2677901

>>2677887
You expect me to believe sakimichan just loves drawing the same league of legends trash so much, the money is just a nice bonus?

>she could retire soon

We're talking about a 20 year old, the fact that this is a remotely sane concept to you shows how fucked your generation is

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:14:31 2016 No.2677910

>>2677901
>You expect me to believe sakimichan just loves drawing the same league of legends trash so much, the money is just a nice bonus?
She was painting that same stuff for years before without making money. It's not unreasonable to think she enjoys it to some degree. Probably the only difference now is that she has to stick to a schedule and paint some nudity.

>We're talking about a 20 year old, the fact that this is a remotely sane concept to you shows how fucked your generation is
She's mid 20's I thought. And in any case she's making about half a million dollars a year. It's possible to retire off that after a few years. When I said "soon" I didn't mean like 3 months, I meant in like 5 or even 10 years, which is much much earlier than most people can retire at.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:27:43 2016 No.2677932

>>2677910
>I meant in like 5 or even 10 years, which is much much earlier than most people can retire at.
That's my whole point. The fact that people nowadays are okay with that is disgusting. This generation is obsessed with making ordinary people outlandishly wealthy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:34:24 2016 No.2677948 >>2677932 There's always been massive gaps in wealth between people. At least we live in the one time where it's possible to bridge that gap.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:45:52 2016 No.2677965

>>2677948
Personally I don't think somebody deserves to make $500,000+ salary because they can draw fan art from their bedroom. Just like I don't think somebody should make 36 million dollars a year for making one or two catchy songs. But my opinion is shared by nearly no one, as you can tell. People see a 20 year old make 4 million dollars a year on Youtube and all they can say is "Hey man, good job, you deserve it."

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:52:33 2016 No.2677975

>>2677901
>We're talking about a 20 year old, the fact that this is a remotely sane concept to you shows how fucked your generation is

Retirement has nothing to do with age, the whole "65 years old" thing is a meme because that's the average age people can afford to retire. Some people retire early, some people never retire at all because they're shortsighted / unlucky. When you're making almost half a million dollars a year you can have enough that you can live on the interest alone in a few years.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:58:11 2016 No.2677979

>>2677882
I'm not sure the packaging is necessarily marketed towards the ones using the product, but more towards their parents/relatives who knows jack shit about art or tools. I've got shitloads of those pens over the years, mainly from my sister, mother or aunt who still thinks i draw "those chinese cartoons" at age 24... I mean, the product in and of itself is pretty standard, but those ugly fucking drawings sort of lower the percieved quiality of it imo. Not that normie relatives could tell the difference anyway, which is the point.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 15:59:06 2016 No.2677982

>>2677965

Well, how do you measure "deserves"?
If it was coming out of my tax dollars yeah, I'd have a problem with it. But her salary is literally coming from people who donate money to her or buy the products advertised on her patreon. Her employers think she deserves it, or they wouldn't pay her, and the opinion of her employers is the important factor. Do I think people could donate money to better causes? Certainly, but at the end of the day it's their call. Nobody is being "robbed" by the fact Sakimichan makes that money, except possibly by the assumption that if someone is paying her that means they're not paying someone else, but it seems a little unfair to start arbitrating who you support financially based on who "deserves" it (by that point it's basically a tax), and what's the metric you'll determine a deserving person by?

>This generation is obsessed with making ordinary people outlandishly wealthy.

This generation is obsessed with paying a little bit of money out of pocket for things they like. The internet has just made it so that a little bit of money out of pocket can become an exponentially larger sum when you accumulate a large fanbase. Distribution increased a ton, and the people who become millionaires are usually the early adopters of a medium (IE Pewdiepie with Youtube and Sakimichan with Patreon). Then everyone catches on and tries, and saturates the market.

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 16:08:57 2016 No.2677995

>>2677433
Because caring about age is petty? You can enter the career of illustration regardless of your age. All that matters is you have the drive and learn what you need to learn to produce good work. Art is a profession that isn't restricted by age.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 16:13:04 2016 No.2678005 >>2677965 >Personally I don't think somebody deserves to make $500,000+ So what about all rich people, actors and businessmans? Politicians? Astronauts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 16:13:45 2016 No.2678008 >>2677965 Fuck off commie

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 17:25:58 2016 No.2678101

>>2675920
Someone can be great at rendering something but if they can't draw or understand the basics it won't be as good as it could be.

This is okay. I hope she studies from life more bcause then she could be godtier in a few years. Unfortunately since tumblr encourages mediocrity I doubt it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 17:27:00 2016 No.2678102 >>2675988 There were some artists in my high school who had already sold paintings for $200+ (and they were about this skill level or better). Age doesn't matter when doing art, it's how much you study.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 17:43:24 2016 No.2678137 >>2677965 see >>2678008

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 18:54:56 2016 No.2678223 >>2675954 those hands though. hah still a fucking pleb

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 18:56:30 2016 No.2678227 File: 811 KB, 640x1136, IMG_4136.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pic related is done by a 17 y/o from this board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 18:59:26 2016 No.2678230 >>2678227 who did it? it's a pretty nice master copy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 19:18:24 2016 No.2678275 >>2678230 Idk I saved it from a draw thread a week ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 19:24:12 2016 No.2678287 >>2678275 so why would you say they are 17?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 19:32:39 2016 No.2678298 >>2678287 They said that they were 18 and did it a year ago. They also said that they did in in charcoal but it looks digital to me in some spots. So who knows

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 19:34:33 2016 No.2678300 >>2678298 Looks like charcoal to me. Where does it look digital? The white parts were lifted out with a kneaded eraser.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 13 19:42:20 2016 No.2678313 >>2678300 The hair is pitch black like it was digitally touched up and background almost looks like a photoshop brush. Same thing with the highlights but maybe I'm wrong

Anonymous Tue Sep 13 19:47:10 2016 No.2678324

>>2678313
It probably had some levels adjustments, but I imagine in real life it would look similar to that. Compressed charcoal can go black as fuck. There's ways to do the background in charcoal, but maybe it was touched up digitally, I can't really tell. I would guess it's all charcoal though.

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