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i'm 19 and i want to draw stuff like pic related, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfbNS_GKhPw, cute pixiv girls, and doujin illustrations in 4 years (basically, when i leave college [studying cs, i.e. totally unrelated])

how many hours a day do you think i'll have to put in? is it realistic for 4 years? is it too late if i never took art classes since i was a baby?

i've designed some stuff for school that my teachers and friends thought were cool, but i'm guessing that means jack shit here for drawing figures anyway

>> No.2621958

>>2621956
>my teachers and friends thought were cool
Don't do that. Don't trust them.

>> No.2621960

>>2621956
>I'm 19
>I want to draw cute pixiv girls, and doujin illustrations

As if enough faggots don't already do this? Kill yourself TBQH.

>> No.2621963

Why do white people want to draw asian culture so much when they aren't asian? If that's what you want to do then 4 years is about right if you put in at least 5 hours a day.

>> No.2621965

>>2621963
15* hours woops yeah you thought it was gonna be easy, huh?

>> No.2621966

>>2621958
yea, i figured it doesn't mean anything

>>2621960
define "enough"

>>2621963
i'm asian

>> No.2621971

>>2621963
Because they honest to god believe anime characters look white.
A weeb who's majoring in CS but wants to draw anime girls is the template white nerd these days. It's hilarious.

>> No.2621976

>>2621966
>define "enough"
Unless you are godlike (which takes well over 4 fucking years to get that good), you'll never stand out. Ever.

>> No.2621977

>>2621966
Oh good. My assumption was if you were indeed white. The ratio of weeb artists on this board who are actually asian has me curious; I know there are a few like n*le and beginner1. Would actually be very surprised that the majority are asian.
>>2621971
To be honest they kinda are drawn with Caucasoid features but lets not derail this thread buddy.

>> No.2621978

>>2621977
>To be honest they kinda are drawn with Caucasoid features
Yeah, borderline featureless flat faces, green hair and red eyes are definitely Caucasoid features. Fuck off back to /pol/ with your pseudo-science kiddo.

>> No.2621979

>>2621956
No. If you have to ask you've already fucking failed.

>> No.2621980

1. Become a twink
2. Go to Tinder
3. Look for retired Jap Animators
4. DO NOT SAY YOURE LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP!!
5. Let them train you and/or run a train on you
6. You made it

>> No.2621982
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2621982

>>2621978
I've talked about this a billion times and would rather not derail another thread.

>> No.2621984
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2621984

>>2621982
my last post on this
polite sage

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2621988

>>2621982
>cherrypicking stock photos
>proof
Your time on /pol/ has literally made you mentally retarded. Get out the house.

>> No.2621989
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2621989

>>2621988
kay buddy

>> No.2621990
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2621990

>>2621976
i just want to draw passable hentai m8

>>2621977
i only know of one asian person from home who does art, pic related is hers (every asian i knew in hs wanted to be a doctor)

>>2621979
how do you mean?

>>2621980
been there, done that

>>2621982
>>2621988
tmk japanese people don't necessarily identify anime characters as japanese -- they seem to give a lot fewer fucks than the pc police in america about the gits casting decision, for example

>> No.2621992

>>2621990
>i just want to draw passable hentai m8
The truth comes out.
That will only take you 2 and a half years of solid, disciplined study, tops.

>>2621990
>japanese people don't necessarily identify anime characters as japanese
No, they do. The narrative generally has to state if a character isn't Japanese. As for the GiTS casting, they don't care because it's a western made film anyway. But we already got western GiTS with The Matrix.

>> No.2621997

>>2621992
>As for the GiTS casting, they don't care because it's a western made film anyway. But we already got western GiTS with The Matrix.
https://youtu.be/2DhoBuU1Dtc?t=27
doesn't seem that way to me, but whatever

>> No.2621999
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2621999

>>2621997
>watch video expecting a large survey of people
>only 6 people in the entire vid

>> No.2622001

>>2621999
what data points do you have to offer?

>> No.2622047

>>2621990
>been there, done that

If that were true you wouldn't be here crying for help

>> No.2622111

>>2622047
>crying for help
how am i doing this?

>> No.2622122

>>2621963
How do liking a certain artstyle and wanting to replicate it have anything to do with ethnicities?

>> No.2622129

That's some shyt, I like to draw anime shyt, but trying to draw realistic stuff is just more enjoyable than that shitty hentai bullshit that doesn't really stand out much.

>> No.2622131

>>2621963
No one culture should own art. That stagnates art. Nothing is sacred in art.

Art is supposed to grow and develop. Due to the internet different artists nowadays are influence by all kinds of artists all around the world. This is 4chan, anon. Of course there;s going to be a shitload of weebs here. This site's entire history has been mostly influenced by Japs. Sure there's some vapid people here that only like surface level shit, and bite off Japan because it's trendy, I don't deny that, but to think everyone is this or that is ridiculous. I highly respect Jap artists, the same way I respect American artists, European artists, and any other artist that I personally look up to. Skin color does not have anything to do with this, only their media.

And let's not forget that this culture swap has been going on for ages. Van Gogh was influenced by the Japanese, the same way Tezuka was influenced by Disney.

Before say that I'm white and that I don't understand, nope. I'm Mexican.

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2622139

>>2621982
Anime faces are so far removed from actual people it's pointless to prove or disprove either way. When you understand the evolution of anime and how incestuous the general artsyle is, you'd understand.

Japanese see themselves in the characters the same way that Americans do, because the faces are simple shaped symbols made to have appeal. There's not enough information to say this or that.

I won't deny that it doesn't have any western influences, it's been there since the very beginning.

>> No.2622287

>>2621963
Damn u right
Brb, drawing in hispanic

>> No.2622298

>>2622139
This is the best deconstruction of Anime Art I have ever seen. Do you teach art appreciation or something?

>Did you just stay awake in an art appreciation class or something?

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2622311

>>2622139
>When you understand the evolution of anime and how incestuous the general artsyle is, you'd understand.
When you actually draw and learn to stylize, you'll understand. There is enough information in the nosebridge and jaw by profile view. You cannot tell the complete likeness of a person from a frontal view, not even in real life, don't be stupid.
>Japanese see themselves in the characters the same way that Americans do
Because Japan is one person.
>I won't deny that it doesn't have any western influences, it's been there since the very beginning.
And so you throw your argument out the window in fear of it being ass-ravaged by my impending post. I have this old infographic for you to look at. Ignore the red-text as I put that in to anger non-artists.

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2622338

Man, this thread is cancerous as fuck. What is it with anime that it always brings out the most obsessively creepy autists on this board? And I don't mean the weebs.

>> No.2622492

>>2622311
Nigga its a fucking cartoon. I could draw a bitch with a dick for a nose and say it's a white person. It doesn't matter what you think or what meme images you post, what matters is the authors intent.

>> No.2622719
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2622719

INSTEAD OF COMPARING 2D to 3D, LETS COMPARE SYMBOLS TO SYMBOLS

LETS COMPARE HOW WHITES/JAPS ARE DRAWN (IN A CONSISTENT STYLE)

LETS TAKE OUR EVIDENCE SOMETHING CANON- kyoani


EVIDENCE: K-ON! Movie (PIC)
PORTRAYED ETHNICITIES: White (BRITISH), Japanese

COMPARE FACIAL FEATURES, NOSE BRIDGE, CHIN, ANGLE OF EYES

EVALUATION:
1- IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PORTRAYAL OF Japanese AND White (British) CHARACTERS?

2- CONSIDER OTHER EVIDENCE - OF THE SYMBOLS PRESENTED IN K-ON! Movie (PIC), WHICH HAS MORE RESEMBLANCE IN >>2621982 AND >>2621989 ?

>> No.2622722

>>2622719
CALM DOWN BRO

>> No.2622752
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2622752

>>2622492
The intent that the artist intentionally draws them with white features? You're not very good at this debate thing, are you?
>>2622719
The error with your 'evidence' is that it clearly shows all the white ehtic bg characters in profile view 3/4 and all the k-ons are facing forward.The k-ons are meant to look cute and have the nose of a spec of dust. Now be a good boy and read the previous posts carefully before you make yourself look like an idiot.

Also as much as I hate posting this image, it is needed to help reinforce your lack of understanding on the likeness of humans. Please take special note on the relationship of the skull and the images I have posted earlier >>2621982 and >>2621989 for comparison. Oh and by the way >>2621989 are white character by the authors "intent" as this negro >>2622492 said intent was all that mattered even though the features says otherwise. White is the standard of beauty and anime is all cross-referenced from Disney, which practices white beauty in all their animation.I mean just look at how long it took them to include just 1 black princess.

>> No.2622792

>>2621963
Globalization bitch,you know what that is?

>> No.2622795

>>2622752
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING YOUVE NEVER SEEN A 3/4 K-ON?

YOU WILL NOT SEE A NOSEBRIDGE ON A 3/4 K-ON IF THATS YOUR ARGUMENT.

AND THERE YOU GO AGAIN COMPARING 2D TO 3D.
_______________
END OF THE LINE: WHITE AND JAPANESE CHARACTERS ARE REPRESENTED DIFFERENTLY (IN A CONSISTENT STLYE)

DESPITE THE SIMILARITIES OF 2D JAPANESE TO 3D WHITE, 3D WHITE HAS ITS OWN TRANSLATION INTO 2D (WITH A MUCH MORE STRIKING RESEMBLANCE)

RESEMBLANCE IN CONTEXT:
THIS MEANS 3D WHITE LOOKS MORE LIKE 2D WHITE AND NOT AS MUCH 2D JAPANESE

SINCE 2D WHITE IS DISTINGUISHABLE FROM 2D JAPANESE, 2D JAPANESE CAN NOT HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED FROM 3D WHITE.

----[YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT 3D WHITE TRANSLATES TO IN 2D, THIS IS DIFFERENT TO 2D JAPANESE, THEREFORE 2D JAPANESE CAN NOT HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED FROM 3D WHITE]----

YOU CAN TRY AGAIN, PROVIDING CANON EVIDENCE THAT COMPARES 2D WHITE TO 2D JAPANESE

>> No.2622805

>>2622752
Those images prove nothing though because they cherry pick images. Eye's fitting into the skull isn't a "Caucasoid" feature. You can find it in every race. That entire concept is outdated science in the first place and the only people who hold onto that are white supremacists who want to continue to believe it's true. You might as well be a religious nutjob at that point. There are variations to the skull in every race of humans, with those classified as "black" having the most variations since they are the origin.

And for the record, anime is influenced by Disney, but those influences predate Disney Princesses. They steamed from when Disney were drawing cartoon caricatures and anthropomorphic animals, ie Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy, etc. So Disney Princesses are a non-factor. There is no reason to bring them up.

>> No.2622819

>>2622111
By shitposting

>> No.2622830

>>2622805

>being this willfully ignorant in regards to general skull differences between groups.

aight brah.

>> No.2622833

>>2622830
>believing in outdated pseudo-science
You keep doing you, bruh.

>> No.2622835

>>2622833

I'm fairly certain you're a troll, but mind explaining then how without skull differences you would draw a character of African descent vs an Asian one? I mean, you wouldn't want a client to ask for an Asian character and then accidentally give them an African one because you can't differentiate the two, right?

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2622852

>>2622835
>I'm fairly certain you're a troll
Maximum kek. If that will help you sleep at night go ahead.

>draw a character of African descent vs an Asian one?
eye shapes, nose, and lip fullness.

Do you even draw? I'm going to assume no and if you do, you're probably not that good.

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2622864

>>2622805
>Those images prove nothing though because they cherry pick images. Eye's fitting into the skull isn't a "Caucasoid" feature. You can find it in every race.

God damn this right here just proves I win the argument. I don't even need to read the rest of your post.
>That entire concept is outdated science in the first place and the only people who hold onto that are white supremacists who want to continue to believe it's true.
I'm no white supremacist if I'm black. I'm simply stating hard evidence you refuse to believe.
>There are variations to the skull in every race of humans, with those classified as "black" having the most variations since they are the origin.
Thanks Cpt. Obvious. But why are you dodging the point that the k-ons are drawn to look like white little girls?
>So Disney Princesses are a non-factor. There is no reason to bring them up.
They are a factor when snow white literally was the foundation that propelled Disney and their sameface waifuist practices. Learn your history and get back to me.
>>2622852
>Do you even draw? I'm going to assume no and if you do, you're probably not that good.
Be honest, you nor me barely (if at all) draw african characters on a day to day basis and you'd be lying through your teeth if you say otherwise as it retracts from your desu sameface anime trash. So lets drop the "haha you don't draw" act.

Also >>2622835 is someone else but w/e his point was valid.

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2622876

>>2622864
>I'm no white supremacist if I'm black
You can believe in innate white superiority regardless of what race you are. You sound mentally retarded. You have to be to believe outdated psuedo-science. Tell me the earth is flat next.

>They are a factor when snow white literally was the foundation that propelled Disney and their sameface waifuist practices.
Anime's influence from Disney is based on the iconic Disney mascots and their older cartoons. From there it evolved on it's own thing. Disney princesses played no part.

>Be honest, you nor me barely (if at all) draw african characters on a day to day basis and you'd be lying through your teeth if you say otherwise as it retracts from your desu sameface anime trash.

>implying you even draw
>implying I actually like anime sameface
kys tbqh famila

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2622884

>>2622876
>no argument
>simply running his mouth

>> No.2623323

>>2622719
>>2622795
>one anime== all anime
bro made-me-respond/8

>> No.2623369

>>2623323
>CANON

CANON IN CONTEXT:
[KYOANI IS FUNDAMENTAL DRIVEN 10/10 CHINESE LOOMIS DERIVATIVE STUDIO WITH A LARGE BUDGET.

SEEING THEIR CONSISTENCY IN STYLE, YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS APPLIES TO THEIR RANGE OF TITLES (WHERE WHITE PEOPLE ARE PORTRAYED)

I THINK YOURE FORGETTING THAT THE KYOANI STYLE IS A PRINCIPLE FOR MODERN MOE ANIME. FAMOUS, INFLUENTIAL- OTHER STUDIOS HAVE INCORPORATED THE CHARACTERISTIC STYLE AFTER KYOANI]

ONE ANIME =approximately ALL ANIME IN THE RELEVANT/DISCUSSED GENRE (MOE ANIME), WITH AN EXTENSIVE BUDGET

ID LIKE TO THINK THE EVIDENCE PROVIDED WAS VERY RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION.

>> No.2623374

>>2621966
South-east or east?

>> No.2624322

Boy, this thread turned into a shitshow real fast. Maybe it wasn't such a good thread to make, but I almost feel sorry for the bloke now.

Can't offer any advice tho' since I'm only a beginner pleb as well, sorry OP.

>> No.2625057

>>2622752
Are you actually autistic? It's so simple.
>Be jap, wanna draw symbolic jap people
>Eye size has to do with cuteness factor
>Make eyes big, stylize rest of face to make sense with big eyes
>End result just happens to have a "bone structure" (they never considered bone structure in cartoons, are you really that retarded?) that YOU subjectively think is more reminiscent of white people's bone structure.

OR, in your fake ass world:
>Be jap
>find all japs ugle af
>draw all japs to make them Aryan perfect race because fuck all my culture and all my people
>also every other Japanese artist also believes Aryans look cuter so LITERALLY every anime artist draws them to look white.

Yeah that's real plausible anon.

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2625075

>>2625057
Refute my points or don't bother posting, anon.

>> No.2626597

>>2621963
Why the fuck do you care? Let people draw what they want

>> No.2626603

>>2626597

Mad white boy detected.

>> No.2626607

just trace pictures and put anime eyes on top like doujin artists

>> No.2626610

>>2626607
Doujin artists don't do that, fag.

>> No.2626612
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2626612

>>2623374
East

>>2624322
I can't believe this thread is still alive lmao

>> No.2626613

>>2626610
sure anon

>> No.2626642
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2626642

>>2621963
>>2626603
Yeah, better tell all those asians that draw European things that they have to stop being interested in white people's culture since its not theirs....
dumbass

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2626676

>>2626642

You're clearly retarded. Whatever happened to that superior intelligence of yours? Japs love the shit out of >Jewish mysticism< which is what your drawing posted is influenced by. The only time they care about European culture is when they draw their kinpatsu shoujos or go gaga over France. When you can refute my points then try again later, white boy.

>> No.2626736

>>2626676
How is that image Jewish mysticism?

>> No.2626742

>>2626736
I rest my case, you're stupid. If you don't have anything else to say that isn't stupid then I'm off to bed.

>> No.2626745

>>2626742
I'm not that anon. I'm genuinely curious

Lack of knowledge =\= stupidity

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2626747

>>2626745

You've got google, idiot, I'm off to bed.

>> No.2626756

>>2622876
How is the recognition of skull shape differences between ethnic groups psuedoscience? You are aware that any competent osteologist can tell what race you are just from looking at an x-ray of your head, right?

>> No.2626761
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2626761

Why do some of you silly dudes get upset over people enjoying other things

"BURN DOWN THE PANDA EXPRESS, there are white people eating CHINESE FOOD in there!"
"YOU FUCKING GOOK, GET OUT OF THAT BMW GO DRIVE A COROLLA"
"STUPID AMERICAN, GO PLAY COWBOY, ONLY US EUROPEANS ARE ALLOWED TO ENJOY MEDIEVAL CULTURE!"

>> No.2626792 [DELETED] 

>>2626736
>1 (one) character has seraphim-inspired (as per christian iconography, not judaism) decorations on costume
>clearly, this image of a person on a horse, wearing european armor and brandishing a european weapon, accompanied by a wizard, depicted in accordance to odin, the father of magic, holding a book an upright pentagram, as construed by john dee, a fairy, and a fucking dwarf is inspired by jewish mysticism and not europe
I have a sneaking suspicion you're imebecile.

>> No.2626793 [DELETED] 

>>2626676
>>2626742
>1 (one) character has seraphim-inspired (as per christian iconography, not judaism) decorations on costume
>clearly, this image of a person on a horse, wearing european armor and brandishing a european weapon, accompanied by a wizard, depicted in accordance to odin, the father of magic, holding a book an upright pentagram, as construed by john dee, a fairy, and a fucking dwarf is inspired by jewish mysticism and not europe
I have a sneaking suspicion you're imbecile.

>> No.2626795

>>2626676
>>2626742
>1 (one) character has seraphim-inspired (as per christian iconography, not judaism) decorations on costume
>clearly, this image of a person on a horse, wearing european armor and brandishing a european weapon, accompanied by a wizard, depicted in accordance to odin, the father of magic, holding a book an upright pentagram, as construed by john dee, a fairy, and a fucking dwarf is inspired by jewish mysticism and not europe
I have a sneaking suspicion you're an imbecile.

>> No.2626954

>>2626676
And I thought asians were supposed to be smart. You're not only racist, you're also an idiot that chats up shit you know nothing about.

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2626971

>>2626954
I'm awake if that's why you bumped this thread. Both you and >>2626795 continue to dodge the very first argument on white features. I'm not going to do a song and dance with you tards today so read up on your lack of understanding on the very images you keep posting.
And >>2626795 Jewish mysticism is the very core of magic high school genre. I'd thought you know something as basic as that but you're just another random person sticking his nose in random threads to prove a nothing but being wanting to divert attention to himself. Last I checked there are no Unicorns in Europe. You called it a horse which also makes me believe you're not only retarded, but legally blind. And even if it were a dwarf that is a white character, which is the point of the argument that all anime characters are white.

I'll still reply to any responses to the points made previously as this person mentioned >>2626756, other than that, stay mad, white autists.

>> No.2626976

>>2626971
You said that the image in >>2626642 contains Jewish mysticism....which is fucking false. Particularly in that drawing, everything there is based on Pagan/German mythology, which is a white culture. And by your logic, people outside their race and culture have no right to draw these things. Im not debating how anime characters look white, that's retarded. Im talking about how you don't know anything you are talking about.

>> No.2626984

>>2626976
>Im not debating how anime characters look white, that's retarded.

I'm glad you have admitted to a battle you cannot win but don't needlessly bump this thread with your retardation for a free (you).
>which is fucking false. Particularly in that drawing, everything there is based on Pagan/German mythology
And you continue to be ever so wrong.
>And by your logic, people outside their race and culture have no right to draw these things.
No that is your logic. I clearly said in the first post
>Why do white people want to draw asian culture so much when they aren't asian?
And you go on a crusade posting dribble just for me to keep your lonely ass company. Not only are you wrong about everything at this point but you have attempted (and failed) to prove me wrong on the discussion here. You are more than welcome to answer to the question
>Why do white people want to draw asian culture so much when they aren't asian?
At any time like an adult, if you are capable.

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2626990

>>2623369
Just because Kyoani draws Europeans different from normal Japanese characters, it doesn't mean that the generic anime style makes the same distinction.

Case in point: please point out the European character(s) in the attached pic.

>> No.2627008

>>2626990

All of them.

>> No.2627011

>>2626990
the big tits one

>> No.2627018

>>2627008
Hair colors define the keeps to self girl, shy soft spoken girl, tsundere, the 'supposed gaijin' who let me guess actually has a English sounding name, and the MC self insert who must look like a European prince and not a beta Asian male to his pink ship white wife from Germany who is dropped in this prestigious school funded for high school kids that no one but the worlds richest elites can afford to save the wor--I mean their tiny island from destruction as the worlds natio--I mean some outside force threats Japan #3299494 generic crap of the season, nationalist propaganda.
^^^after I checked mal^^^^
Interestingly enough my first hunch was mostly correct by the cancer script based off MAL. Who is to say, that if you got all white people cast you might as well just drown MC with all white pussy with the guise that only 1 or 2 girls are of Japanese blood.

>> No.2627039

Why is there an angry anon in this thread saying absolutely nothing of substance and calling everyone idiots?

Does he not realize he is the retard? Go back to bed, wacko.

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2627041

>>2627039

>> No.2627042

How long does it take to draw decent line art? Im not aspiring to be amazing but decent enough to trigger autists in /a/ drawthreads.

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2627046

>>2627042
>decent enough to trigger autists in /a/ drawthreads.

>> No.2627049

>>2627046
People go apeshit when you draw their waifu indulging in weird fetishes. Baiting after that should be easy and guarantees derailing and wrecking thread.

Trolling is an art after all

>> No.2627052

>>2627049
I think they are just farming for more.

>> No.2627114
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>>2621963
Autistic people have special interests, anime attracts a lot of autistic people because they can understand them socially because they use symbols and repeated character archetypes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30nfka8J8Y0

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>>2627114
>"ha, nice bait. I bet a lot bit"
>it's legit
oh god

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Great thread guys, keeping the quality of /ic/ on check.

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>>2627139
It's in check, you retarded muffin.

>> No.2627167

>>2627114
Finally a good answer.

>> No.2627198

>>2627049
I don't know if it will work, I just checked the current drawthread out of curiosity and there's people requesting all sorts of weird /d/ shit.

>> No.2627214

Fuck it im moving to deviantart

>> No.2627222

>>2627198
Well on weekends theres a special thread with special requirements and etiquette.

Someone will always blow their load when someone breaks it

>> No.2627241

>>2627214

Noone cares, lord of homos.

>> No.2627529

>>2622830

>Phrenology

/pol/ is that way!

>> No.2627531

>>2627529

You're on an art board. Skulls are very art related.

>> No.2627549

>>2621963
>>>/tumblr/
Take your cultural appropriation nonsense somewhere else nigger.

Also OP learn basic anatomy and then draw lots animu shit

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>>2627549

>Also OP learn basic anatomy and then draw lots animu shit

You have no advice don't even pretend you just wanted to post a memearrow reply and call me a nigger.

Go sit in a corner, cumskin.

>> No.2628238

>>2626990
Blonde probably from some English speaking country and Blue is probably Russian or something like that.

>> No.2628256

>>2626984
not that anon you are fighting with, but I'd like to say you are a fucking idiot who can't provide any kind of proof to back up his "arguments".
you aren't proving that you are right here. not one tiny bit.

>> No.2628258

Its defiantly possible but only by how much time and work you put into it.

>Hours/Schedule-
Ideally I'd say 6 hrs a day is the minimum you'd want to go. You don't have to have a big 6 hr session each day to acheive this. You can split it up by smaller sessions throughout the day.
>ex. In the morning I start my day with a 2-3 hr figure and skull drawing session. In the midday I have a 2-3 hr study session (Anatomy,Value,Perspective,Proportions,Perspective etc. Whatever I decide to work on that day) And in the evening I end my day with a 2-3 hr"review" session recapping everything I've learned and possibly have another figure/skull session. I usually average 7 hrs with this schedule but you can tweak it however you wish. Can't practice in the midday? Have a longer morning/evening session to make up for it. Are 2-3 hr sessions too long a time for you? Aim for at least 1 hr and slowly work your way up to being able to have longer sessions. In general its always good to have a schedule and discipline yourself to keep to it.

>Is it too late?
Its never too late :)

>> No.2628273
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>>2628256
If you're not him don't even talk to me you lowlife nobody.

>> No.2628330

>>2628273
oh, I see, you are just a delusional teenager. never mind then.

>> No.2628343

>>2628330

Why is this old man STILL trying to speak with me? I'm 22! Twenty Two!

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>>2627529
Firstly, that isn't phrenology.
Secondly, the races do have different skulls. And also different brains.

>> No.2628365

>>2628343
22, teenager
same delusional asshole

>> No.2628368

>>2628353
take your racist shit to your after school nazi club and try to impress your female sempai with it, loser.

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>>2628365

If you keep being that angry with me you'll loose too much plasticity for drawing today, old man.

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>>2628365
If you keep being that angry with me you'll lose too much plasticity for drawing today, old man.

>> No.2628383

>>2627529
>All human races look the same
Never gonna make it

>> No.2628387

>>2628368
>racist

HAHAHA OH WOW
meanwhile you try to impress women with your pansexual all inclusive blacklivesmatter sensitive non threatening beta male act and see how many cuck sessions you can worm your way into, retard.

>> No.2628399

>>2628387
oy vey goyim it's 2016 you NEED to be an all inclusive multicultural sensitive non problematic tolerant male! You wouldn't want your friends to think that you're literally Hitler now would you?

>> No.2628413

>>2628399
this is /ic/ my friend, here 81.74% are worse than Hitler

>> No.2628418

>>2628375
>angry
>old man
not even that anon. but I can see why a lot of people think you are a delusional asshole.

>>2628387
I'm simply above all this trivial shit.

>>2628399
nah. it's the current year, you just need to be an intelligent human being and maybe leave racism in the 18th century.

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>>2628418
>but I can see why a lot of people
>a lot
You mean 15 out of ~88 of you losers?

>> No.2628455

>>2628428
>22
>being on /ic/
>calling others losers
all my sides.

>> No.2628547
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2628547

>>2628353
>/pol/ stock photos
Does /pol/ still believe the earth is flat too?

There are differences in skulls but they are minuscule for the most part. Race doesn't exist. You have to be mentally disabled to actually still believe in old as fuck pseudo-science. The concept of race was founded on faulty science and it's used to pacify poor and middle class white autists like you. It's fucking 2016 shithead. Stop wasting time browsing /pol/ and get educated.

>> No.2628559

>>2628547
>Race doesn't exist

Low quality post. Try harder next time.

>> No.2628568
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>>2628559
You can't prove me wrong. All you can do is post cherry picked stock images that prove nothing and quote irrelevant outdated science, most of which has already been debunked. Race doesn't exist.

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2628576

>>2628568
>race is skindeep bro we're all the same bro

Okay sure buddy. Just for the record, as negro to negro, you'd be on the far left of the bell curve to me because you're just THAT stupid.

>> No.2628577

>>2628568
>science that disagrees with me is outdated
>hurrdurr im retarded

inb4 "LOLE U WUZ TROLLED M8"

Just go away already.

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2628582

>>2628576
>>2628577
Maximum kek. Nice retorts, faggots. You can go back to that autistic cesspool known as /pol/. We all know you shitheads don't draw anyway.

>> No.2628586

>>2628576
You're gonna make it.

>> No.2628587

>>2628582
Pretty sure I got more done today than you. And from the stock images you're posting I can tell who you are. I'll refrain from saying your name as to not shame you.

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2628588

>>2621963
>implying

>> No.2628589

>>2621963
Why do black people want to talk english and go to prosperous white countries so much, when they're a bunch of retarded monkeys who should be hanged?

>> No.2628590

>>2628582
What was the video name again?

>> No.2628594
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>>2628587
I highly doubt that. You can fuck off back to /pol/ senpai.

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>>2627551
Wow looks like you've gotten extremely butthurt over me saying something that everybody in this site says.

I hope you lynched you filthy subhuman animal.

>> No.2628598

>>2628594

I suggest you don't test me my dude. There aren't that many people on this board, it's very easy to know who is who.

>> No.2628599

>>2628597
*on
*get

God damn went full retard there lads

>> No.2628601
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2628601

>>2628597

(you)

polite sage

>> No.2628606
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2628606

OP the thing you've got to be really wary of with /ic/ in general is that they will preach that it takes years longer to get good than it really does.

There are artist proving wrong time and time again that you don't need a long time to get good at this. But they get written off as being more talented than other artists or another reason. And the answer to that is they just stumbled across a way of getting better that works really well for anybody no matter who does it.


And NO you don't need 10 hours a day to get good. That is absolute unrealistic madness and you'll get burned out way before you use those hours. Settle for maybe 3 or 4 hours at most and spread out your lessons over the day don't do it all at once.


And the obvious no brainer but. If you care about getting good don't make /ic/ of all places the place where you spend most of your time. Get involved with real online art communities with tons of professionals you can study from.

The negative criticism from /ic/'s feedback is also bad for improvement. Stay positive and stay motivated and don't show your work to people who will make you feel like a piece of shit amateur artist. Even if you are new you should always be eager to believe you can learn the next few steps you need to get good and not see it as this huge deal.

Don't put getting good on a pedestal. When you turn getting good into a really big deal you tend to always believe that goal is out of reach of your capabilities. So getting good ends up feeling unrealistic and impossible deep down.
You can get good. One day it will all click just like that and you'll have it all down. The shading. The coloring. It'll all make sense. You'll have found all the holes in your knowledge that matter and you'll have a great approach to drawing that feels easy to you.

>> No.2628607

>>2628598
Post it faggot.

>> No.2628619

>>2628607

He is someone from the porn thread. That's all the hint I'll give.

>> No.2628626

>>2628547
>race doesn't exist
explain affirmative action.

>> No.2628631

>>2628626
explain why Italian and Polish people weren't considered white initially.

>> No.2628726
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>>2628594
>Implies that black girls have the best ass.
>posts a mutt with man palstical surgery

>> No.2628728

>>2628726
many*

>> No.2628844

>it's another "white people think they look like anime" thread

Fuck

>> No.2628909

>>2628844

thank you for your contribution

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>> No.2629077

>>2628913
maybe you should find a less retarded way for a suicide.

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>>2621956

>> No.2629715

>>2621963
Culture fascination? i dont know, ancient eastern cultures are cool as shit.

>> No.2629718

>>2626747
Sleep nightmarishly drowsy anger asian.

>> No.2629792

>>2628606
(not OP here)
Thanks for this post. You made it worth reading through this retarded thread.

>> No.2629880

>>2629718
rude

>> No.2629882

>>2621965
it really kinda varies greatly from person to person. but obviously if you dedicate a shit load of time per day you are gonna see massive improvements regardless of your skill level.

>> No.2629885

>>2621977
they arent the face shapes are very asian desu anon you must fucking suck too not see that they all have those huge puffy cheeks and weak chins that cover up the jaw.

>> No.2629886

>>2621997
THE MATRIX - GHOST IN THE SHELL

HOLY SHIT KILL YOURSELF

KEENU AS FUCKING MOTOKO LOL

>> No.2630182
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>>2628588

> le anime is whitu piggu memu xDDD

>> No.2630184
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2630184

> this kills the piggu

>> No.2630195

>>2630182
>>2630184

>taking plastic surgery gooks for his evidence

It's 5am I can't lose my sides this early in the morning. Even more hilarious if you've made this graphic yourself. All pics aren't even in exact profile as you can clearly see the other eye. My god don't do this to me hahahahahah! AAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.2630218

>>2630195
>hurrdurr
>my cherry pick is more valid than yours
Are you done? Why post when you can't even make a point?

>> No.2630221

>>2630184
This one really drives the point home. Saved.

>> No.2630222

>>2630218

It's hardly a cherry pick when the pictures are in exact profile view and yours aren't. Can you please stop pretending to be stupid?

>> No.2630224

>>2630222
>if I say it hard enough it'll be true
>even though the image clearly shows otherwise
Stay in school plz.

>> No.2630415

>>2630195
>>2630222
now I'm sure you are just trolling garbage.
stay free.

>> No.2630421

>>2630415

>the other guy made a seemingly "good" point
>this is my chance to tag along and claim victory

You couldn't be any more desperate.
Stay stupid.
>>2630224
We must not be looking at the same images then. I also challenge you to look at more asians IRL and not from your computer screen. There is a reason the majority of them are ugly.

>> No.2630518

>>2630421
I'm not claiming anything, dumbass. I just thought you were being seriously a retard for thinking those reference images were actually proving anything, but then I realized you are probably just a troll. so if anyone here is winning, that'd be you.
now I'm starting to think that my first impression wasn't wrong after all.

>> No.2630519

>>2630421
why do you think your points are any better than those of the other guy?
just saying that you are right doesn't make you automatically right. you are aware of that? right?

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2630523

>>2630518

>now I'm starting to think that my first impression wasn't wrong after all

T-that you're madly in LOVE with me?!? That would explain why you keep posting regardless of not being able to prove me wrong.

>> No.2630528

>>2630523
you trying to joke or troll it out doesn't help you. all that you do with this is proving his point. that you are either a troll or an idiot who can't prove his point.

>> No.2630530

>>2621963
Enjoy your free (you).

>> No.2630531

>>2621963
>go to a website that originated as an anime imageboard
>WHY DO PEOPLE WANT TO DRAW ANIME WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.2630533

>>2628588
Bottom left is quite retarded.

>Literal model vs unmateable.

>> No.2630535

>>2630523
ooh, you want me to prove you wrong?
here: https://www.google.com/search?q=beautiful+asian+girl&client=firefox-b&biw=1920&bih=957&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVuZ-43q_OAhVFtxQKHVr1BgMQ_AUIBigB

https://www.google.com/search?q=beautiful+asian+girl&client=firefox-b&biw=1920&bih=957&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVuZ-43q_OAhVFtxQKHVr1BgMQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=beautiful+asian+girl+profile

https://www.google.com/search?q=beautiful+asian+girl&client=firefox-b&biw=1920&bih=957&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVuZ-43q_OAhVFtxQKHVr1BgMQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=ugly+caucasian+girl

now please stop proving me right by acting like a little kid.
I mean, are you really retarded to the extent of not seeing that this image >>2630182
contains selectively picked faces?

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>>2630195

> whitu piggu is maddu xDD

>> No.2630550
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>>2630535
>>2630547
Asians, calm down. You're still better looking than niggers.

>> No.2630553

If you have the passion and want to do it, then start doing it. Start now. Don't worry about how long it takes. No two people achieve mastery at the same rate so don't hold yourself to a deadline for something *you* want to do. You might get to a great point in less than four years; you might have to take even longer, but you'll shoot yourself in the foot if the time it takes concerns you more than wanting to do it.

>> No.2630554
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2630554

>>2630547

I already mentioned I'm not even white, thanks for playing.
>>2630535
I'm speaking from IRL experience--something you refuse to participate in--that you simply don't look at asians from upclose and notice their puffy, round, lack of cheekbone, fat nose faces.

http://www.asianplasticsurgeryguide.com/news10-2/081003_south-korea-highest.html

Statistics don't lie. Gloss over that if your tiny brain can handle it.

>> No.2630559

>>2630554
except compare to china and japan, korea is like the lesser ugly child out of them all.

>> No.2630560

>>2630550
I'm >>2630535 and I'm caucasian and I'm not into asian girls at all. I'm simply not a retard.

>> No.2630565
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2630565

Beautiful anime characters can be white, asian, latino etc

I dont know why white neckbeards started with these cringeworthy "WE WUZ ANIME AN SHIEET" chimpouts..

99% of women IRL look like trash..

The percentage of beautiful women that are white, asian or latino are similar.

However, it can be intelligently assumed that realistically most anime characters are based on asians.


Usually when characters are "white" they are drawn very differently. Think hellsing for example.

> cue white weeaboos shitting themselves in denial

>> No.2630566

>>2630554
you are really dumb lol. anime beauties that appear in mangas and animation aren't based off average girls. when the fuck are you going to understand this simple concept, tardo?

>> No.2630568

>>2630565
this

>> No.2630570
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>>2630566
>anime beauties that appear in mangas and animation aren't based off average girls
You're right, white women aren't average girls. That's why Hollywood's movie cast is always mainly composed of white people and the black man dies first. Imagine that, huh? Truly just average.

>> No.2630571
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2630571

>>2630554

> All asian women are ugly without plastic surgery or makeup

> All white women are naturally beautiful and never use plastic surgery or makeup to enhance their looks

Pic related, as you can see this white girl closely resembles an anime character.

So kawaii xDD

>> No.2630575

>>2630570
then why are anime live actions are played by asians? check and mate :^)

>> No.2630576
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2630576

It's just fact asians aren't that good looking. You can best see it in their 3D games where they look half-white/half-japanese than anything else. Mention this to any weeb and they get butthurt as hell. There's a reason why models are white and not asian\black.

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>>2630571

Nice try but anime follows the 80/20 rule which states that 80% of the face is proportions of a child and 20% body of a woman. This is why this medium appeals to paedophiles. Your adult pig does not apply here.

>> No.2630580

>>2630570
I give up. you are either too stupid, or just too good a troll.

>> No.2630581

>>2630576
same goes for you. either dumb or trolling.

>> No.2630582
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2630582

> y-yeah i guess she looks like an anime character....

> ...b-but thats only because she had 1000 plastic surgeries and also wore makeup and also tricked us into thinking that!


Ah, the fabled mental gymnastics of the whittu piggu.

You gotta love em! ;)

>> No.2630583

>>2630579

> all anime is moe shit

nice try pedo

>> No.2630585

>>2630580

I'm glad you have accepted your place.

>> No.2630590

>>2630585

shoo shoo shitpost king

>> No.2630593

What's this? Did ProudToBeAsian find /ic/?

>> No.2630594
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2630594

>>2630581
Prove me wrong, weeb.

>> No.2630595

>>2630554
Stop. We're talking about characters from Japanese manga and anime, but you use the broad term "Asians," and you post Korean women, who are not the same as Japanese women.

>> No.2630596

"but if she was Japanese, it wouldn't look like an anime"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhoBuU1Dtc

>> No.2630598

>>2630596
checkmate right here

>> No.2630599
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2630599

Even japs don't give a fuck about this, only otaku

>> No.2630602

>>2630594
https://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+models&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcy-7R7a_OAhUCcBoKHQRHASoQ_AUICCgB&biw=1920&bih=957

also, not a weeb. I couldn't care less about otaku culture. I just hate racist scum like you.

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2630604

>>2630602
Give up. You lost.

>> No.2630608

>>2630602
Maybe one day you'll grow up and realize what a fucking idiot you were.

>> No.2630609

>>2630585
my place as in been trolled, or my place as in being above you since you are stupid? pick one please.

>> No.2630612

>>2630554

>Statistics don't lie.

I always found this to be a retarded statement.
First of all - you need to assume your stats are accurate, lots literally are bullshitted or extrapolated from a sample that's too small to be representative. Even if you're certain your stats are accurate and representative, it doesn't mean the person using the statistics isn't a lying sack of shit who's using them with poor context and lack of knowledge.
You'll notice the anti-vaccine jackasses also use statistics for their arguments, they're just fucking idiots about it.

>> No.2630615
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2630615

What's going on in this thread?

>> No.2630621

>>2630608
I'm a grown man and if you are too, then I am so fucking sorry for you man. also, how is it like back in 1600?

>> No.2630625
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2630625

Even asian countries use white models. Why? Because they're beautiful. The biggest chinese movie ever has a white person in the lead. Why? Because they like white people. Otaku are just fucking retards out of touch with reality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=Wdjb7o_5ejA

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>>2630609

You want to be above me? That's lewd, anon! But...if you insist then I..
>>2630612
But this is medical treatment stats we're talking about. Very hard to not have accurate data on this.

>> No.2630666

>>2630630
I see. you still can't prove anything.
so basically it's really either you being a troll or stupid. I love that you put yourself in such a lose lose situation.

>> No.2630667

>>2630599
>>2630604
>6 randoms
>representative of all japanese

It's actually pretty sad how desperate you are to validate your bold faced lie. So desperate you're willing to take the word one random chick on the street as law or proof. Racism is a special kind of autism.

>> No.2630669
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2630669

>>2630667
Oh, you still haven't refuted anything. How sad.

>> No.2630670

>>2630669
all that is true in this entire thread is that some of you are racist as fuck.

>> No.2630676
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2630676

>>2630667

>take a sample of water from a lake to test if it's contaminated with bacteria
>no no it doesn't represent all of the lake!

The epitome of stupidity ladies and gentled/ic/ks. .

>> No.2630677

>>2630670
Saying asians or niggers are ugly isn't racist, it's just fact.

>> No.2630680
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2630680

>>2630676
>he thinks that's a valid analogy
My fucking sides

>>2630677
>if I say it hard enough it'll come true
Kek, cave maggots

>> No.2630687
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2630687

>>2630680
I'm sorry, nigger. You don't have to get so upset just because you look like a monkey. You still have bananas, right?

>> No.2630692

>>2630676
haha, please say you are trolling. you can't possibly be this dumb.
also, please don't ask me to prove why your analogy is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of. stop making a fool of yourself kid, and just stop posting alongside adults.

>> No.2630696

>>2630687
>current year
>being a racist caveman.
my sides just melted and I'm not even black.

>> No.2630698

>>2630692
It's pretty obvious they are trolling. All they can do is name call. They can't present any valid arguments because they don't have any. They've lost, now they are just wasting time.

>> No.2630699
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>>2630680
>>2630696
>also, please don't ask me to prove why your analogy is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of.
That takes a load off me because I'd rather not lose my braincells on low-intelligence, primitive individuals such as yourself. Keep bumping this thread off pg1, mad white boy.

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2630700

>>2630696
Oh, no. He called me racist again without any arguments! What do I do! Just fuck off to Reddit, autismo.

>> No.2630701

>>2630698
yeah, probably you're right. gonna stop wasting my time here and just go back to work. good call anon.

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2630704

>>2630696
>using the current year as means for argument
>spouting buzzwords like racists when losing an argument

I can't tell if this is juicy bait or there's legitimately a tumblretta ITT.

>> No.2630709

>>2630704
>losing an argument
>posting reaction images like a 15 year old (inb4 we are on an image board hurr durr)
>being this delusional
keep going kid

>> No.2630713
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2630713

>>2630696
Not sure if you are just trolling or a giant faggot.

>> No.2630714

>>2630709
If you don't like reaction images you are more than welcome to go to the various other forums (reddit) who are like-minded and very liberal like you. Get the hint? Leave /ic/.

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>>2630709
I'm not even the Anon you're arguing with but it seems to be you're for whatever reason incredibly butthurt right now and you retort to leftist like agitations when you do not have your way.

>> No.2630723

>>2630714
>not having a liberal mindset
I feel sorry for you kid.

>> No.2630736

>>2630722
I'm not the tiniest bit butthurt. I'm just saying there's a bunch of racists in this thread. I always thought being racist was a bad thing, since it only shows that your instinct prevails over your intellect.But I guess you guys are okay with this or something. Keep it up.

And if by some chance you really aren't racist, then saying asians and blacks are ugly by default, only shows that either you think your personal taste is superior to others or you simply cannot have an open mind about aesthetics, which both show stupidity.

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2630748

>>2630723
>I'm just saying there's a bunch of racists in this thread

Stopped reading right there. So you're a leftist liberal am I correct? Isn't the whole notion of a liberal some tolerant and open minded individual that embraces love and understanding? So where's this tolerance of yours? Why can't you accept people for who they are?

We have a place for people like you >>>/pol/

>> No.2630753
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2630753

>>2630736

You misunderstand. YOU are the one who brought up racism. I was simply stating facts that anime character are portrayed as white people because white beauty is universal and to say otherwise is being stupid. Having a preference isn't being racist.

It just so happens Japan has a preference to draw their cartoons to look white. Is that being racist? No. Ignorant and blind to their own habits of the source of western Animation that they don't see it as 'racist'? Perhaps. But is it racist? No, they just prefer white beauty.

They choose to draw what looks the most attractive. They admit that they would rather see white in their entertainment whenever available and a video was posted to solidify this claim. But you continue to cover your ears and say "lalala I can't hear you, you racist."

>> No.2630754

>>2630736
Asians aren't ugly by default, niggers are.

>> No.2630757

>>2630748
>he can't even quote the right post
I'm pretty sure /pol/ is your home and your main source of human interaction. Stay in the cave m8.

>> No.2630758

>>2630754

True, but I'm more handsome that your pale ass and that's all I care about.

>> No.2630789

So many racists in this thread talking down on pale skin and referring to white people as pigs. Can always count on white racists to draw out the racists in everyone else. True feelings revealed. Good job, white brothers. Race war when?

>> No.2630793

Jesus fuck, even 4chan is infested with this shit. Social justice really is the worst type of cancer.

>> No.2630798

>>2630753
>because white beauty is universal
this is just your confirmation bias talking. being exposed to certain things make them more familiar and appealing.
manga/anime characters don't have big eyes and caucasian features because artists want to draw whites. they have those features because most of the early anime and manga industry was very influenced by disney and other western style. some of those features stuck to this day, some were replaced. another reason you see those features as non asian adult ones is because they are stylized children traits to make the characters look cuter and more appealing to a wider audience.

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2630800

>>2630789

Race war is now and you're losing friendo.

Just look around you. Europe is getting literally btfo, and America is already pic related.


Keep pretending to be a japanese anime character though. I'm sure that'll help xD

>> No.2630802
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2630802

>>2630798
>anime is like that because they copied disney who exclusively drew euros\americans
Not helping your case, retard

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2630804

>>2630798

Why are you arguing with him ?

He's right. Just look at this beautiful aryan goddess over here. Truly a beauty of the white race.

Really looks like an anime character too, dont you think ?

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2630806

>>2630798
>they have those features because most of the early anime and manga industry was very influenced by disney and other western style
>????
>Walt himself was a literal 'if it ain't white it ain't right' thinker
my dude you really gotta stop being stupid. Let's just forget about why 99% of all anime character skull are Caucasoid.
>another reason you see those features as non asian adult ones is because they are stylized children traits to make the characters look cuter and more appealing to a wider audience
Which LITERALLY why this person posted >>2630571 and I said >>2630579 after, you seriously are losing this debate. Let's also remember the VERY first pic I posted was that of a child >>2621982
>>2621984 proportions.

Stop bumping now to avoid looking more dumb. I'm gonna go draw now so I won't be replying for ~2 hours.

>> No.2630807

>>2630802
my case is that anime/manga doesn't copy caucasian traits, but early Disney which was dominated by big eyed animals. if anything they were drawing japanese peple stylized in the disney fashion.
they copied disney's stylization, period. if you can't tell the difference between copying a style and copying subjects, I can't really help you. no matter how much you swear at me.

>> No.2630808

>>2630806
>you seriously are losing this debate
that was my 1st post in this thread.
this is my 3rd one.

>> No.2630809

>>2630808

I count everyone on the defensive as one. Doesn't matter if you are another anon.

>> No.2630811

>>2630807
Sure, buddy, sure. Whatever you want to imagine in la-la land.

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2630812

>>2630806

Dude you've lost a long time ago...

This is how white women actually look in anime (and irl too xD)

>> No.2630815

>>2630547

I think this image speaks for itself


White piggu status:

BTFO [x]

NOT BTFO [ ]


/thread

>> No.2630816

>>2630809
haha. what kind of defense mechanism is this? you just realized, you said something stupid because you mistook me for someone else. if you really are talking with everyone on the defensive as one, then maybe you should start writing like that, don't you think?

>> No.2630849

>>2630811
It's a documented fact. In fact, Betty Boop has a large role in how old anime humans looked since Osamu Tezuka was inspired by her and Disney's anthropomorphic cartoons and caricatures in his art. But you make it a profession to ignore facts. So you're going to continue to make yourself look retarded.

>> No.2630852

>>2630849
All you've done is make yourself look like a fucking idiot. You weebs are so fucking sad.

>> No.2630855
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2630855

>>2630852
>knowing history makes you a weeb

>> No.2630875
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2630875

>>2630855
Misinterpreting history does.

>> No.2630896
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2630896

Anime is symbol drawing. Who the fuck knows what the characters are supposed to be. (needs more Loomis)

>> No.2630901

>>2630896
1/10 for effort.

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2631231

>ITT ; Pasties get angry and argue for no good reason.

>> No.2631235

>>2631231

It needs to go back to the 90s or at the very least adopt what was seen in kabaneri and the iron fortress.

>> No.2631248

>>2631231
>>2631235
Speaking as someone who thinks anime is a bunch of silly bullshit for tasteless faggots, I actually find the one on the right more aesthetically pleasing.

>> No.2631261

>>2631248

That's your shit opinion.

>> No.2631265

>>2631231
yeah left is pretty ugly
Right is decent.

>> No.2631267

>>2631248
>>2631265
Shit taste

>> No.2631276

>>2631231
I'll never understand. The left was simplified enough and still has a better sense of dimension. Her face on the right is flatter and just looks like it's melting off. The mainstream anime aesthetic is just going to get worse as time goes on if this keeps up.

>> No.2631401

>>2631248
>>2631265
Agreed. The right one has more pleasing proportions and curves. Stylization done correctly. Right one looks amateurish as fug. I guess it's just because of this artist so probably this comparison is irrelevant.

>> No.2631402

>>2631261
>>2631267
stop posting stupid and irrelevant comments. nobody cares about your taste or what you think of other people's taste.

>> No.2631447

>>2631402

You're right, nobody cares. You are a nobody. But somebody does care.

>> No.2631457

>>2631447
What you wrote, makes 0 sense.

>> No.2631458

>>2631457
Why is a nobody still talking to me?

>> No.2631462

>>2631231
I grew up with that older style, and I still like it, but honestly the newer mainstream style is considerably more pleasing.

>> No.2631465

>>2630800
Why do people pick a porn website dedicated to their singular fetish when using this overused anecdotal argument?

>> No.2631643

>>2631276
Its no wonder. Jap animators get shit wage based on the amount of pictures they draw.

Im honestly surprised that it isnt worse

>> No.2631649

>>2631458
because I want to prove a point (that you are stupid). not because I am interested in your taste or what you think of other people's taste. do I have to explain it with a diagram, tardo?

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2631659

>>2631649
>i-it's not like I'm interested in your tastes or anything! BAKA!

Just ask me out already. I won't turn you down, I promise.

>> No.2631674

>>2631659
lol. every time I read a retarded dumb post like these: >>2631261
>>2631267
it turns out it's always the same dumb idiot.
you are 22, but you act like a tumblr kid and you think like a retard.
you should really consider killing yourself.

>> No.2631676

>>2631231

Just like most modern art direction (think quake, doom, cs, mario, pokemon etc)

the new style is weak and generic

probably because the clueless nu-males who are in charge of it are merely copying the old masters, but of course their mass media consumerist personality is reflected in the drawing.

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2631681

>>2631674

Do you want to be friends or not? Last chance to not be lonely.

>> No.2631712

>>2631681
why would I want to be friends with a dumb kid? I'll pass.

>> No.2631718
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2631718

>>2631712
>why would I want to be friends with a dumb kid?

Because I can tell you're hurting inside and need a tomodachi.

>> No.2631754

>>2631718
>choosing to talk to someone who says things like tomodachi
>filthy weebposter

Haha
Ew, why would you

>> No.2631791

>>2631754

Because you are talking to me right now.

>> No.2631836

>>2631791
so you troll because you're desperate for attention.

what a fucking loser.

>> No.2631869

>>2631836

There was no trolling that took place in this thread. There was a discussion and that is why it reached 200+. A troll would be in your case; a tsundere white boy who who won't stop talking to me.

>> No.2631878

>>2631869
I'm not the same anon you were responding in these
>>2631659
>>2631681
>>2631718
which are all troll shitposts.
you are just sad. get some rl friends weeb.

>> No.2631888

>>2631878

Those were not troll shitposts, you see them that way. Those posts were legitimately trying to be your friend. I can see why you have no friends IRL because anytime someone makes an attempt your autistic white ass makes a run for it calling people "trolls".

I almost feel sorry for you. The keyword here is almost.

>> No.2632147

>>2628606
>And NO you don't need 10 hours a day to get good. That is absolute unrealistic madness and you'll get burned out way before you use those hours. Settle for maybe 3 or 4 hours at most and spread out your lessons over the day don't do it all at once.

Not going to make it.

>> No.2632667

>ITT: People getting assmad over non-Japanese people drawing anime.

>> No.2632674

>>2632667

More like
>ITT: people getting assmad over the truth

>> No.2632813
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2632813

>>2631888
Not OP but holy shit, what a massive faggot. You just just pic related only there was no pretending follow up on your part.

>> No.2632878

>>2632813
-1/10

>> No.2632962

>>2632878
>butthurt level
10/10

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>>2632962
your anal status=rekt beyond repair

>> No.2633000

>>2632993
no U

>> No.2633009

>>2625057
Theres not a difference in your 2 scenarios. They make the eyes and face more white and cute than realistic because the new white features are cuter than ugly realistic japanese faces.

>> No.2633059

>>2633009
you are affected by confirmation bias. but that's not a problem. the problem is that you are so dumb you aren't able to realize this by yourself.

>> No.2633067

anime characters are neither withe or asian

>> No.2633070
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2633070

>>2633067

And 250 posts later you are still unable to prove to the class how wrong the sensei is. I don't have a Ph.D. in otaku culture for nothing. I graduated with a 4.0 and was the top of all my peers with letters of recommendation from Tezuka himself.

>> No.2633073

>>2630547
That's the most retarded image in this thread

>> No.2633118

>>2633070
>>2632813

>> No.2633123

>>2633118
>>2632878

>> No.2633149
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2633149

>>2630547

>> No.2633163

>>2633149
>amateur guy who made the image shifted the "asian person cartoon" 's eyes up onto the forehead
>added extra line to the nose of the "asian person cartoon", but ignored it for the "white person cartoon" while still adding a "Perfect!!" caption
>made the mouth for the "asian person cartoon" smaller for no reason
>tried to match the contours of the "asian person cartoon" nose exactly to the photo, but ignored it for the "white person cartoon"

>> No.2633173

>>2633163
explain
>>2621982
>>2621984
>>2621989

>> No.2633175

>>2630184
youre using a faux profile to soften it and changing the angle of view...

>> No.2633178

>>2633175

You see, nosebro of all people gets it.

>> No.2633333

You people are seriously going to argue whether or not anime characters are referenced to asians or whites? Does it even matter?

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>>2633333
>Does it even matter?

Of course it matters. You'd get up in arms whether Africans were Egyptian kings or the true Israelites the same way based on evidence point blank in your face. There is nothing wrong with knowing the origins of the cartoons you draw--it's all a history lesson.

>> No.2633355

>>2633342
No I wouldn't. I don't speak for Africans and I sure as hell don't believe to be Japanese. It doesn't matter.

>> No.2633358 [DELETED] 

>>2633342
Shut the fuck retard.

>> No.2633361

>>2633333
only if you're autistic.

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2633366

>>2633355
>I don't speak for Africans and I sure as hell don't believe to be Japanese

That is not a requirement to understand where the true seeds of Abraham descended from. You should be more willing to understand other cultures instead of being caged in your 99% white, gated suburb communities.

Since this thread is such in popular demand I think I should make a new one in courtesy of OP.

>> No.2633502

>>2633366
please kill yourself. nobody needs autistic trolls.

>> No.2633510

>>2633342
>implying I'm a literal nigger
Most know that the way people are distributed on earth is more like a smooth gradient depending on the climate and that all of our ancestors probably fucked each other at some point, so fighting about that is just a sign of great insecurity.

>> No.2633625

>>2633510
So explain difference in skulls.

>> No.2633642
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2633642

>>2633625
Monkeys are doing pretty well in a jungle climbing trees n' shit, so if a man doesn't get out of the jungle you can't expect him not to resemble the monkey.
That still doesn't mean they don't deserve to be happy, so maybe instead of worrying about whether Egyptians were black or Iraqi asian, worry about why you aren't studying the form atm. Cheers.

>> No.2633645

yall are fucking autistic lmao

>> No.2633689
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2633689

>>2632674
What truth? You people are delusional as fuck.

>>2633333
Quints of truth.