Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.2559078]

Last thread: >>2551173

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, remember to have fun!

>Fresh off the boat? Get back on the boat and read THIS:
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

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>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
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http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

[Anonymous No.2559253]

I drew a little girl too!

[Anonymous No.2559261]

>>2559253
>inb4 "muh grills aint LITTLE!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[Anonymous No.2559269]

Did I do this right?

[Anonymous No.2559289]

>>2559253
ass

[Anonymous No.2559316]

>>2559253


it's a 20yo with a big head

this is a good ref for little girls body

(artist Ashika, had to censor for general rules)

[Anonymous No.2559320]

>>2559316
DELETE THIS

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2559322]

>>2559320
sometimes i wonder if he have some little girls in his home, some anatomy is scary accurate

[Anonymous No.2559323]

>>2559322

or just child pornagrophey on his raid storage

[Anonymous No.2559324]

>>2559322
>accurate

And how would you know?

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2559326]

>>2559324
uh-
eh-

and...

urr

you know

(jokes apart at the pool and there are children there)

[Anonymous No.2559328]

>>2559253
cute, blog?

[Anonymous No.2559343]

Done.

[.m No.2559353]

>>2559316
tmw somebody refered my favorite artist

[.m No.2559354]

>>2559316
tfw somebody refered my favorite artist

[Anonymous No.2559362]

>>2559253
how tasteful

[Anonymous No.2559542]

Zenyatta's ra skin is pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.2559550]

>>2559269
dont know why you'd exclude the head/hands. if you're trying for a tanline it wont be such a hard edge. it'll be noticeable but not a pixel perfect line. it looks odd.

[Anonymous No.2559552]

>>2559253
need your blog. or where ever you post. your style reminds me of somebody on /b/

[Anonymous No.2559567]

>>2559542
>Ra skin
>not Sunyatta

go away

[Anonymous No.2559641]

Kinda inspired by >>2557910

Any help with the hand? Or in general?

[Anonymous No.2559642]

>>2559641

[Anonymous No.2559710]

>>2559316
20 years old is little girl still
>>2559552
who might that be?????????
http://ultrapitchfork.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2559714]

>>2559710
20 years old is old hag material m8

[Anonymous No.2559737]

gonna do every shit from scot roberson how2, will kill anxiety with lolis ayyy
>>2559642
fingers are too curved, you might want to resize that hand, seems small, not enought increase in proportion

[Anonymous No.2559758]

On the topic of perspective and anatomy, can someone explain how this image works? It's my dream to be able to do this with some level of competency but I have no idea where to start.

[Anonymous No.2559760]

>>2559758
everything is fine but birds/plane for now
birds are not beilable, they're spread around, same size, pretty big
the plane is facint outside, so it does not interact with the giant, you might want to put it facing towards the girl

this is turning 2 alternative giant lolis thread

[Anonymous No.2559763]

>>2559760
I didn't draw the pic, but I was looking for an explanation on how the lines in the background determine what the figure looks like.

[Anonymous No.2559791]

>>2559763
the grid only determine the distorsion of the figure. You can place a box and the figure inside, with that you have a reference to place other minor forms
I can't do it anyway, made it harder tho kek

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2559844]

trying

[Anonymous No.2559854]

>>2559844
digging that thigh, but I don't think biceps attach in the armpit like that.

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2559871]

>>2559854
aaayy fixin

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2559902]

will start using refs or i'm fucked

[Anonymous No.2559906]

>>2559642
interesting brush, makes things look traditional, i assume its a chalk brush yes?

[Anonymous No.2559914]

p much finished idk w

[Anonymous No.2559929]

>>2559902
glad to see you doing another, doing god's work
also finished i guess, although it was just cleanup and stuff from the rough

[Anonymous No.2559935]

I have no idea how to define the background for this one, my brain is frying already. It's not very well defined but it's basically a butler taking two demon kids for a walk in a demon garden. Any suggestions/critique?

[Anonymous No.2559944]

hi i'm new here first time posting did a doodle real quick

[Anonymous No.2559965]

>>2559914
where is the wet juices leaking from her vagina?

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2559978]

>>2559929
that's going great, the shoulders thing is cool

it's fun, but I'm too rusty to paint, might try with this one

[Anonymous No.2559988]

>>2559944
gross

[Anonymous No.2559997]

>>2559965
dude wants to post this on dA for his shibari flicks so i dont think that's gonna fly

[Anonymous No.2560000]

>>2559914
the hair looks pretty shite but the colors are nice

[Anonymous No.2560001]

>>2559902
Who made her shoes?

[Anonymous No.2560004]

>>2559978
is that supposed to be another giant woman off in the distance anon?
if so, i would seriously reevaluate her position in this image... the level that she is grounded at makes it look like she is almost the same distance to the viewer as the woman on the left.

[Anonymous No.2560011]

>>2560000
pls explain

[Anonymous No.2560022]

first time in this thread, trying to work on character creation. any thoughts?

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2560036]

>>2560001
third world kids bein exploited
it was that or cringe stuff
>>2560004
lineart weight, values and colors are not set yet at all, it's early to say that

gonna try to render it like this >>2557397 and pic related
without showing line art at all, but with softer edges, wish me luck

[Anonymous No.2560054]

>>2560036
im not talking about the line weight, values or colors. im talking about perspective and where the character is grounded in the image.
imo you should either A, move the tank up to emphasize the horizon line as being really low so that most of the elements on your pic are grounded on almost the same line.
or B, move the giant woman farthest away up to continue the established perspective between the foreground tank and woman.

also, i really like this pic of the three women. probably my fave of yours that ive seen so far.

[Anonymous No.2560078]

>>2560036
probably a dumb question but i love the way this is rendered, anyone know how the artist achieved that affect?

[Anonymous No.2560085]

>>2559642
anon who did that piece here. I'd say it got rather dull composition but you had the right idea. her hand is too open and the fingers are too curved like other anon said. top right plane is weird with the perspective too.
how will you color it? I suggest put some explosions in the background to give the character a backlight would've look good.
do you have a blog?

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2560092]

>>2560054
Doing A, thx anon

[Anonymous No.2560148]

Is there a rule of thumb for adding contrast?

[Anonymous No.2560216]

>>2560092
for sure M. lookin better already.

update

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2560272]

maybe I keep working on it.. but I'm not sure it's gonna be worth the time at this point, because I get stuck :/

[Anonymous No.2560281]

>>2560272
put grass details in the foreground to indicate distance.

[Anonymous No.2560295]

>>2560272
do you still want crit on it?

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2560300]

>>2560295
yes, will correct few things tomorrow
air layer
details
light layers on skin
saturation layers
clouds..

If you have any cc, please go ahead, i'll modify

[Anonymous No.2560305]

>>2559572
nice rendering, bad drawing

[Anonymous No.2560374]

Ok.>>2560305

[Anonymous No.2560391]

>>2559078
My character designs for an /ic/ mascot.
Say hi to K/ic/k

[Anonymous No.2560394]

>>2560391
Woops, forgot to resize.

[Anonymous No.2560410]

starting to get color in.

[Anonymous No.2560426]

>>2560272
make a stronger tilt on the hips, shorten the tight in perspective, sock is above the horizon, position of arm is anatomically not possible.

[Anonymous No.2560433]

>>2560078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWAPCt6a_g

maybe that helps.

[Anonymous No.2560483]

>>2560272
>>2560300
i think the shadow is a little weird on the tank. there shouldnt be those slivers of light on the side of the tank facing left. if these planes are flat, then the shadow should be consistent. also, make is so planes that are facing different directions have a different level of shadow.
also, i would recommend that you work on your line quality. im not sure how far you want to take this image, but if you spend more time on it, cleaning up these lines would be prudent.
i think >>2560426
is exaggerating how wonky the perspective on the tank is, but it is a little weird.
having said that, i like the way youve drawn the shapes of the tank and the antennas.

is this for anything in particular, or is it just practice?

[Anonymous No.2560509]

>>2560394
Work more on your drawing and less on your handwriting

[Anonymous No.2560534]

help?

[Anonymous No.2560536]

>>2560534
Push the pose. Make that booty pop and that back arch just a little more. It looks lifelike which is nice, and has some damn good form, but it feels stiff and boring in a plain pose like that. Don't be afraid to take subtle influence from pinups.

[Anonymous No.2560548]

>>2560534
It's pretty flat
I know it's cartoony but try to think of it less in symbols and more in a 3D space.

[Anonymous No.2560557]

>>2560548
you think the whole thing is flat?

[Anonymous No.2560780]

[Anonymous No.2560796]

>>2560509
Gotcha. I just have to write a lot for school, so I work on my handwriting constantly.
Do you have any tips on learning? Not just
>hurr durr draw more fagoe
But on regimenting your practice and making learning more linear? I just can't discern wether I'm learning or not. Every once in a while something cl/ic/ks, but generally it feels pretty fucking pointless.

[Anonymous No.2560806]

>>2559542
>>ovals instead of circles
hold shift in mspaint while drawing a circle, to keep it the same width/height

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2560851]

better?

[Anonymous No.2561065]

>>2559078
I need to draw more from imagination/fun.

[Anonymous No.2561086]

did an edit can i be poplar now

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2561104]

[Anonymous No.2561106]

>>2560780
super blade runner lighting, might be to shiny, other than that super comfy. 9/10

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2561114]

>>2561104
love it

dem tank eyes lol

[Anonymous No.2561116]

>>2561104
there's not a lot of depth to it, girl in the background just looks regular sized
chromatic aberration could be toned down a bit.

[Anonymous No.2561166]

>>2561104
why u always adding that filter?

[Anonymous No.2561178]

>>2559935
How can i push this further, anons?

[Anonymous No.2561212]

>>2561178
The flat colors are nice, but there is clearly supposed to be some depth. Use some saturation depth queues for the background to make the characters pop

[Anonymous No.2561260]

>>2559929
Sick! Do you have a tumblr/da/hf? I'm hoping you take commissions. I've been looking for someone who paints like Calm (he doesn't do reqs/coms).

[Anonymous No.2561307]

>>2561178
I actually rather like this already. Some of your color-choices are a bit questionable, though.
Having a large amount of different colors usually works best when they aren't too saturated, and while you did a decent job with that in some areas of the picture, the three characters themselves are a bit painful to look at right now.

A lot of your colors are also in the same mid-value range. For example, the rodent-like creature running from the girl almost gets lost despite being a very different color from its surroundings because of the similar values.

I'm not sure if you intend to add shading or if you want to keep it just with color flats, but either way, you might want to change some of the values and color temperatures to create more depth.
It seems like you already did a little bit of that with the closer trees being darker and warmer in color, but I think you could push that aspect further. It's also inconsistent right now - the grass/bushes close to the viewer don't really look any different than the ones further away.

[Anonymous No.2561389]

>>2561178
well the perspective is very flat. it looks like you added the background after you've created the characters. they don't seem to be standing in space, they're just alligned next to each other with no depth.
you could change it so they'd be descending stairs.
composition-wise change the position of the girl and squirrel. maybe mirror her, put her in the background and move the two males to the right corner.

[Anonymous No.2561437]

>>2560534
I changed the face to give it more flowand a bit closer to a style i want.

[Anonymous No.2561443]

>>2561212>>2561307>>2561389

Thanks for all the input :^)

[Anonymous No.2561445]

>>2561260
http://yilx.deviantart.com/
Not taking comms though, sorry

[Anonymous No.2561475]

>tfw never be as good as Gashi-Gashi or whoever the fuck did this piece of shit

JUST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6th9p3T6lkU

[Anonymous No.2561581]

[Anonymous No.2561655]

a sketch

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2561657]

>>2561655
remember you, you got crazy better!

[Anonymous No.2561660]

>>2561657

Am I so obvious and recongnizable? Though I was unknown here

Are you Jaycee? I thought no one can recognize me besides him. Still paint like shit, some day gonna find those anime coloring tutorials...

[Nose Bro No.2561667]

>>2561660
yes you are, youre the faggot who framed me.

[Anonymous No.2561674]

>>2561667

When are you gonna stop with the frame story?

I explained you more than once and still think i framed you. Bad lines by the way

[Nose Bro No.2561684]

>>2561674
someone pull up the fucking picture its the same fucking style

[Anonymous No.2561693]

>>2561684

Any real prove besides you empty words Nose Bro?

How do we know you aren´t tryin to divert the attention to me in the first place?

[Anonymous No.2561709]

gonna try to paint and maybe add a background to it

[Nose Bro No.2561714]

>>2561693
bro, i fucking know its syou, if i cna track your style from picture to picture, i can reverse engineer to the firs tone.

[Anonymous No.2561720]

please respond

[Anonymous No.2561791]

>>2560410
heres an update.

trying a new color/shading style. what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.2561839]

>>2561437
your rendering style is pretty nice anon.
anatomy looks pretty good too.
clean up the colors and do more on it i think
>>2561709
i think this image is generally well done. im not sure exactly whats up with the pose, but if shes just kinda floating then whatever.
the only real issue i have with your pic is the perspective of the barrel of the gun shes holding. the mechanics look extremely good, but the end of the barrel looks like is is supposed to line up in a symmetrical way... but your pic looks like the the barrel is off kilter or somethin.

[Anonymous No.2561851]

>>2561839
thank you yea I see what you mean. its janky looking as fuck

and yea the pose is kind of weird, she's really just supposed to be floating there lol. I'm gonna have like a big swirl of snow particles and stuff fly around her.

[Anonymous No.2561877]

>>2561791
I like it so far - keep going, I'd like to see how it ends up

[Anonymous No.2561890]

>>2559343
Wow, no one saw my Hamakaze

Working on this

[Anonymous No.2561951]

Done with this commission

[Anonymous No.2561952]

>>2561437
Try and block out the forms and shadows in the line drawing before you start painting so you don't have to guess

[Anonymous No.2561970]

Poses from that ref thread

[Anonymous No.2562002]

>>2561970
Pretty good

[Anonymous No.2562005]

>>2560078
its called ambient occlusion, im pretty sure?

[Marco No.2562006]

>>2561970
you got a link for that charcoal brush?

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2562099]

my first non loli character

Ignore right hand

i would like to ask some help on how to make ribs show

[Anonymous No.2562104]

>>2561890
cute face
try sketching with huge fat lines so you build up some line confidence, drawing like that is really tiring

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2562153]

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2562230]

[Anonymous No.2562237]

>>2562230
The giant has some strange proportion issues. Like her femur is super long, her arms look different sizes, her rib cage and pelvis meet oddly etc. Are you using any ref besides the Wyeth painting?

[Anonymous No.2562277]

>>2562104

Wow thank you for your advice and not ignoring me... Or just >>2560305

[Anonymous No.2562325]

>>2562277
Your art is cute and the effort you put in is cute anon. If you make a blog you'll be less lonely

[Anonymous No.2562348]

>>2562099
The ribs shouldn't blend with the abs like they do on a kid because of the TITTIES, especially with curved spine pose. Also what i found really helpful with drawing women is imagining the abdomen and vag as separate from the legs and then have the hips and thighs push outwards rather than being a parallel extension of the body.
Never redlined before (greenlining in this case) so i hope it's of some help to you.

[Anonymous No.2562360]

>>2562325

My dream is become a professional anime illustrator in Japan like them www.twitter.com/ugume3732 or www.twitter.com/kanzakihiro.

I made my twitter account and i have my 12 fallowers... This is my first step to reach my dream. Also i made some japanese friends who has the same dream like me, so this is fun. Thank you for your words and sorry for my bad english.

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2562362]

>>2562237
thx, not referencing, only the clasic painting

[Anonymous No.2562377]

>>2561952
dont have to guess what?

[Anonymous No.2562378]

>>2562277
Wow, dude, with that attitude I'm sure you will make it far.

[Anonymous No.2562403]

>>2562378
I was expecting he was more specific, thats all

[Anonymous No.2562427]

>>2562403
You don't look a gift horse in the mouth, in a place where people take time out of their lives to give you any kind of feedback you take what you get, people gave you specific advice in the last thread but you didn't take it.

[Anonymous No.2562529]

[Anonymous No.2562538]

>>2562403
Specific (i.e. harsh) advice is that your fundamentals are weak. It looks like you're taking ~8 hours to draw something that's a 15 minute sketch because you're trying to replicate a crisp anime style. If you do more studies and build up your muscle memory the lines will come naturally.

[Anonymous No.2562545]

>>2562377
don't have to guess what the shadows are, otherwise you get mostly rounded shapes. Take a look at how >>2562362 plans his painting

[Anonymous No.2562677]

>>2561714

Then do it! By the way there are lots of artist whose doodles look similar to yours. Even some sketches from malaysia...

You never reply the question. How do we know that isn´t you just trying to get attention?

[Anonymous No.2562688]

>>2562529

Be careful about posting doodles and sketches. Nose Bro will think you are trying to frame him or some shit...

[Anonymous No.2562712]

>>2560078
>>2562005
you combine ambient occlusion + soft shadows.

think of occlusion as the smaller, sharp/dark shadows under things such as belts, collars, fabric overhanging very close to the skin, etc, where the overall light in the room really struggles to reach.
so rather than the intention of these shadows being "i want to show which direction light is coming from, and how intense it is, making my subject look 3D", it's just "i want to show the viewer that the overall light in this scene is really struggling to get into these spots".

you then combine the occlusion shadows on top of a more accurate set of shadows that resemble a 3D shape, but you purposely make the accurate shadows a soft grey with rather smooth edges, so that the occlusion ones always appear darker and sharper on the eyes.

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2562733]

will finish the background/water tomorrow...

Dunno why it got that deviantart feeling...

[Anonymous No.2562741]

>>2562733
Needs more curve in the back and thinner waist.

[Anonymous No.2562787]

>>2561851
np anon
>>2561791
>>2561877
thx anon.
heres an update

[Nose Bro No.2562819]

>>2562733
nigga the other faggot redlined it for you .

[Nose Bro No.2562822]

>>2562677
bro im past the point where id have to actively look out for attention. Stop fucking sidetracking its the exact same style nigga. i know its you.

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2562826]

>>2562348
>>2562819
didn't see it, damn

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2562828]

>>2562733

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2562839]

>>2562828
well that is almost anorexic

but i got a really clear idea of the values

thanks M senpai!

[Anonymous No.2562841]

>>2562362
i love it

[Anonymous No.2562876]

>>2562822

It doesnt seem so Nose Bro. I think you are devoloping an obssession with me.

I said prove it, you couldn´t. Stop this silly game. I KNOW you have the wrong guy

[Nose Bro No.2562877]

>>2562828
niga how you gonna do everything but give her an inverted stomach and not fix the hands?

[Nose Bro No.2562880]

>>2562876
know what? im gonna take your word for it.

[Anonymous No.2562891]

>>2562880

I came here to meet people learn stuff share books etc etc. So far I met some cool people like jaycee, Firez even Lefty is a cool dude.

I am way pass the point of trolling and shit like that.

By the way what drove you here? wanna be a graphic desinger or somethin like that?

Nice to meet you btw

[Anonymous No.2562961]

>>2562787
Do you have a blog? I like your style.

[Nose Bro No.2563009]

>>2562891
2 years 3 months ago i saw this guy who told me i could draw like him if i practiced for a year. I wanted to draw like him. I came here because I like the hostile atmosphere. People calling each other niggers and hating furries is hilarious to me. I don't know of any other community that doesn't sugarcoat. its fun here.

[Anonymous No.2563016]

I want Nose Bro to leave, but not for the reason most other people do. I think he spends too much time shitposting here and its going to hold him back as much as it's held me back.

[Anonymous No.2563020]

>>2563009
Which guy? Algen?

lol... Wondering how would be a real meeting of ic?

Would they still be calling niggers and hating furries to eachother? Who knows...

[Anonymous No.2563021]

>>2563009
Confirmed for not making it unless your taste is as bad as your product

[Nose Bro No.2563024]

>>2563020
weve had hangouts from the discord on g+, everyone is decent. Most people are surprised when they're talking shit about me with me though.

>>2563016
its fine, ill make it eventually™

[Anonymous No.2563051]

>>2562961
thx anon.
bceman.tumblr.com

[Anonymous No.2563155]

>>2562427
You are right, sorry.

[Anonymous No.2563203]

>>2562712
tl;dr for occlusion is that it's exactly your lineart; the transition points between forms. Just blended out

[Anonymous No.2563307]

[Anonymous No.2563308]

[Anonymous No.2563329]

tried to channel kawayoo colors

[Anonymous No.2563356]

>>2563329
I like it a lot.
Buhlog?

[Anonymous No.2563371]

>>2563356
http://godsh0t.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2563375]

Yo, Im doing some stuff on Sai
Is there a way I can colour things and then Switch it easy?
Trying to figure out what colour this Shirt should be

[Anonymous No.2563382]

>>2563329
really rad and cool desu senpai, but oversized, way too much
I guess the pic title is a praise to kek

am I going alright with the rendering? I'm not friendly with pushing contrasts

trying to render it properly with a painting style, quitting cell shading for a while
does she read well? what should I focus on?

[Anonymous No.2563390]

>>2563371
I'd like to see what you will do in 2-3 years.
Keep it up man.

[Anonymous No.2563477]

Perspective drawing and me... aren't really friends.
Can someone help me there?

[Anonymous No.2563530]

>>2563477
If you don't like perspective, you don't do ultra-ambitious scenes, you either do something pretty flat or you take some time and put your VPs down, it doesn't take some talent, just work.

[Anonymous No.2563578]

>>2563530
That's why I did this drawing, so hopefully I can get a better feeling for it. I'm bored of all the flat pictures.

[Anonymous No.2563600]

>>2563578
Well, then you start putting your VPs. Here it's even funnier since it's 3 points. Use the line made by the spines of the characters to determine the verticals' convergence.

[Anonymous No.2563644]

>>2563477
draw a mesh over the surfaces, and follow the form, you need to place ovas to make it read 3d instead of flat, the important thingg is ot put attention where the oval dismish on the outline, as it always make an asymptote
don't do the stuff so sketchy and construct it, keep the ovals with some criteria, you are going too fast

still gotta finish the bottom part of the painting, it's like doing another painting, damn

[Anonymous No.2563663]

>>2563644
controlling the detail level is usually one of the harder parts when drawing giant muscle lolis

her anatomy is a little strange, her butt seems to be placed a bit too low? but that's just me, the overall feel is still really good

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2563722]

not sure if nipples or not...

or draw some kind of light dress on her

[Anonymous No.2563732]

>>2563722
Whatever, that's already deviantart tier either way. The anatomy is quite terrible, and the shading isn't any better, the background makes it even worst.
Invert your drawing, that should at least make it more obvious for the face.

[Anonymous No.2563746]

>>2563722
>>2563732
And if you have a hard time seeing the problems, just compares with great works.

An example of what I would consider top tier and that keeps the theme/composition of an elf bathing in a river.
The body is greatly done with ton of shading details, combined with lots of of details that still makes her nude. The arms position are more interesting. Same for the head position. And of course the background is properly done.

Yours looks like some kind of muddy swamp, and giving some much space is a terrible idea taking in account the very low amount of work done on the background. Study how to do proper water effects.

Don't go straight for thin lines, combined with bad anatomy and them not being totally clean ruins it. As for your body shading, your not doing it properly at all, those half blurry shadings makes it looks plastic as hell along with badly placed shadows, like the the two big ones up and below the tits. Which be the part that shouldn't have half blurry lines but totally blurry ones, again, compare with what i posted.

All those failed features combined with others that could be fine like the blush just makes it looks deviantart tier.

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2563783]

>>2563732
>>2563746
thank you very much!

well, the fact that i can already get some of those "advanced advices" feels somehow good

just jumped into drawing backgrounds so i'm still experimenting

well probably doing this drawing more would be polishing shit will think about those advices the next time!

[Anonymous No.2563785]

>>2563722
babu hands

[Anonymous No.2563806]

>>2563722
>>2563783
And pay more attention to how you draw Anime faces.

There is a very clear line between good/great ones and others, which always just looks like deviant art trash to be honest. You need to go further than generic faces.

Anime faces are about simplification, but GOOD simplification, and especially because it so simplified the problems will be much more obvious.
In that example >>2563746 , it looks so much better and not generic thanks to it being done properly first, but the important parts like the eyes are done really detailed, which makes the character much more beautiful.

And obviously you quite clearly don't know well how to draw a face, study that too in priority.

[Anonymous No.2563874]

>>2563051
Thanks, keep it up.

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2564090]

>>2563806
actually i feel more comfortable on doing loli faces/bodies

Wanted to try to give that elvish ablungated look

But looks like i failed

[Anonymous No.2564150]

Made this for as friend who likes to play as hoovy on tf2.

[Anonymous No.2564151]

Tfwicantfinishanythinginonesitting.psd

[Anonymous No.2564196]

wild boy doodle

>>2564151
yo you gotta blog?

[Anonymous No.2564348]

>>2564196
Thanks, my tumblr is firez-tbr.tumblr.com

Going by your lines and colors ....I think we are mutuals already but if not I hope my incosistency doesn't turn you off

[Anonymous No.2564365]

>>2564151
Study boobs

[Anonymous No.2564373]

>>2557793
decided to go with original pose instead

[Anonymous No.2564383]

any help on this would be appreciated. Cant seem to get the face looking right

[Anonymous No.2564398]

Lizardman. Kind of just wanted to work on values, but failing hard. Debating whether to continue

[Anonymous No.2564430]

So I wanted to try drawing something again. Still having trouble with the torso and stuff. Head and hair is fucked and will attempt to fix it tomorrow.

nb4
>loomis
>beginner thread

[Anonymous No.2564434]

>>2564430
im a shit tier beginner so take it with a grain of salt

i cant see any boney landmarks standing out
i cant see any muscles
where is her ribcage?
where is her neck?
left arm is absurdly long
holy shit how do the hands connect?
pls come back to begginers

[Anonymous No.2564438]

>>2564434
Well I was trying to copy pic related I found in the draw threads on /a/. Obviously I didn't do it well + the clothing obscuring most of her.

[Anonymous No.2564440]

>>2564430

>>2564228

[Anonymous No.2564474]

>>2564430
>>2564438

That pose sorta only works because she's leaning against the door frame behind her. In your drawing if she tried to pull the same pose she'd just fall into the water.

[Anonymous No.2564479]

>>2564398
What's the point of wanting to work on values and then quitting before you even get to that point? You did a sketch and blocked in colors and some soft form shadows. Now add a directional light source and block in the shadows clearly, so there is a defined distinction between light and dark when you squint your eyes.

[Anonymous No.2564485]

>>2564479

Sorry. I just personally wasn't liking the design/pose, It's pretty plain, and I've been awful busy so I considered tossing it. That being said, I should at least do what I said I was going to.

[Anonymous No.2564557]

>>2564348
>firez
Why no more trip?

[Anonymous No.2564558]

>>2564557
ic won

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2564723]

wonder if i'm just polishing a turd

[Anonymous No.2564739]

Trying out some simple cartoon/comic artstyle. I think it worked out pretty well.

[Anonymous No.2564742]

>>2564723
Yes.
people already told you you wont draw anything good unless you follow the sticky or a beginner book, even if you don't aim high art you still need to follow the basics

[Anonymous No.2564755]

>>2564739
Looks cute nigga

[Anonymous No.2564762]

>>2564723
It's not terrible dude
just come back to it later!

[Anonymous No.2564765]

>>2564762
Are you samefagging or are you an idiot?
This guy needs to learn to draw and instead he's practicing turd. He needs to go back to /beg/.
He got an advice and ignores it. The best way to stay bad.

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2564780]

>>2564765
no no i really get your advice

It's just i wanted to "complete" this before moving on

and i assure you i keep practicing basics as well

just throw in an illustration from time to time

About beg thread...

Don't really like that place :<

i'm already family with the anons and namefags here and they are nice to me (harsh but nice)

[Anonymous No.2564784]

>>2564373
Shitty fucking neo-typemoon.
Pretty good picture though

[Anonymous No.2564790]

>>2564780
Have you tried DesignDoll? It's a free program I use when I need help with posing, lighting or perspective.

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2564793]

>>2564790
Woah that seems great!

Thanks!

btw last polishing

and now i can save and throw in the cabin this drawing

[Anonymous No.2564821]

>>2564474
Ahh, thanks I see.

Is there like a certain length for the rib cage? Cause every time I try to draw it it just looks weird. I've watched plenty of videos. Legs aren't all that hard.

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2564917]

got some jap anon to redline my work

they destroyed me in 20 minutes lol

Wanted to share here damn they are good

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2564919]

>>2564917

[Anonymous No.2565018]

>>2564917
>lol
This board is beyond salvation.

[Anonymous No.2565030]

>>2564917
that body is not very good, slightly better than yours but please use other references than this person.

[Anonymous No.2565082]

>>2564917
more rounded with a more dynamic view

[Anonymous No.2565084]

Wanted to try a different style and use coloured outline rather than black

[Anonymous No.2565087]

>>2565084
Beginner thread, sticky, etc.

[Anonymous No.2565169]

>>2564917
Why on earth is this a gif? Silly nips.

[Anonymous No.2565237]

your friend has autism.

[Anonymous No.2565302]

I was drawing right at first, but it felt a little lacking, so I tried to rearrange the composition a bit. However I still have no idea how to pull it off properly, so I'd like to ask...

which one feels better for 'alert alert giant loli approaching'

[Anonymous No.2565397]

>>2562002
Thanks - wanted to do more, but no time, maybe tonight

>>2562006
>charcoal brush
It's the default HB pencil in procreate. The tilt and azimuth take some practice to get used to. Basically, better than hard round, but much worse than a real pencil.

[Anonymous No.2565429]

>>2561951
fuckin spaghetti fingers bro

[Anonymous No.2565458]

>>2565302
definitely the first one, the second one is very flat like the background is just an afterthought when you really need to push a sense of scale.

>>2564373
This is pro level work. Did you redo the lineart or do you just clean up the lines while painting?

[Anonymous No.2565477]

>>2564919
Now it just looks like a guy.

[Anonymous No.2565488]

I think I might have ADHD.

[Anonymous No.2565492]

>>2564723
and this, kids, is what it looks like when you leave /beg/ 6 months too early

[Shitposter No.2565495]

>>2564793
At least you know youre polishing a turd, keep studying anon!!

[Anonymous No.2565502]

I haven't been drawing anything for real for a while. Please tell if there is anything to fix.

[Anonymous No.2565509]

>>2565502
Not lewd enough.

[Anonymous No.2565514]

>>2565502

Staring into infinity breh

[Anonymous No.2565518]

>>2565514

She probably covered 'Nam.

[Anonymous No.2565521]

>>2564784
it's for the publicity man.
>>2565458
thanks anon! although I didn't really think it's pro level since the pose is still awkward and composition isn't that great imo. people seems to like it though.
also I redo the lineart >>2557793 was just a sketch

[Anonymous No.2565571]

>>2561970
More

[Anonymous No.2565572]

>>2565518
>log into /ic/
>It Ain't Me starts playing

[Anonymous No.2565581]

>>2565571
I miss your traditional stuff

love u tho

[Anonymous No.2565595]

what would you even call this art style?

[Anonymous No.2565625]

>>2565571
Got a tumblr?

[Anonymous No.2565636]

>>2565595
Disappointment and sorrow

[Anonymous No.2565656]

>>2559944
why did you trace

[Anonymous No.2565671]

>>2565571
Nice taste in imoutos.

[Anonymous No.2565718]

I'm finished bothering with this crud. Critique till ye hearts content.

>>2565302

The left one has a bit more going on. and the impact of the running kind of motion adds a bit more. The rights just a bit stiff and the destruction doesn't feel as ongoing.

[Anonymous No.2565765]

what do you say about it ?

[Anonymous No.2565770]

>>2565718
Anon please you have a single light source. Just go back to your original drawing and follow the light coming from it.

[None !!kNiqkplNdJY No.2565773]

>>2565718
I don't like the design of those armor discs on the tail but otherwise its really cool.

[Anonymous No.2565786]

>>2565770

Er, if your speaking of >>2564398 I did but I just wasn't getting it to work very well at all (not that this came out that great either). I dunno if it was the composition or my mind just not wrapping around it but eh. I need to honestly go back and look at some reference/basics for understanding light/form/cast shadow better.

>>2565773

I originally wanted to do a Lizard king/duke instead with a Polish-Lithuanian style armor, but it went heavily awry. I'll probably give it another shot later.

[Anonymous No.2565791]

>>2565765
I like it
But her cheek bothers me

[Anonymous No.2565793]

>>2565595
Binary?

[Anonymous No.2565794]

>>2565791
can you describe the problem with cheek more ?

[Anonymous No.2565795]

>>2565794
Well where it starts to cerve in more to the chin, it kinda looks like she just has a dent in her face
Im not sure if thats cheek or chin issue actually

[Anonymous No.2565797]

>>2565786
No I'm talking about after you added the giant glowing sword. Just go through it and everything in the same plane as the sword gets a big flat highlight. That's the easiest way to describe forms

[Anonymous No.2565817]

[Anonymous No.2566039]

>>2559269
The left breast looks like it's higher.

The breasts don't raise when you lift your arm, they stretch. The bottom of the breast should still be in the same spot, unless it's a huge breast that hangs over the skin obviously.

So leave the nipple where it is, the placement of that is good but lower the bottom of the breast, and stretch the fat over that whole distance.

[Anonymous No.2566041]

>>2559343
one big is bigger than the other one sleeve is longer than the other the collar thing is crooked

[Anonymous No.2566056]

>>2565595
oekaki

[Anonymous No.2566086]

[Anonymous No.2566095]

>>2565488
Pas mal.

[Anonymous No.2566099]

something sketchy

[Anonymous No.2566223]

>>2565458
>>2565718
Thanks, went with the first one
i'll tweak values proper later

[Anonymous No.2566227]

>>2566056
that seems as right as we're gonna get

[Anonymous No.2566412]

>>2561970
From where are those refs?

[Anonymous No.2566417]

>>2566223
Do you get hard to your own drawings?
I mean what else is the point of drawing your fetish over and over again, but then again lusting over your own creation is not very likely

[Anonymous No.2566427]

>>2561475
gashi gashi is my inspiration too anon.

[Anonymous No.2566471]

>>2566417
projections: the post

[Anonymous No.2566517]

>>2564365
Thanks but could you be more specific?

>>2564557
>>2564558

I guess.

Unfortunately, someone stole my Note 4 pen at this very point and I could not continue it, I will probably move the psd to my pc and work a bit more on it.

[Anonymous No.2566545]

>>2565581
I also miss traditional, maybe I'll do a throwback weekend and go table

>>2565625
Blogishere >>2552678

>>2565671
>>2566412
I am not sure what the origins of the character are, but the refs are in here
>>2551949
>>2552959
>>2555136
>>2555142
>>2555144
>>2559617

[Anonymous No.2566560]

>>2566417
>what is the point of drawing what you like

[Anonymous No.2566701]

I also gave this one another try

[Anonymous No.2566718]

>>2566701
Really like the color palette, but there are some proportion/ anatomy errors

[Anonymous No.2566850]

>>2565509
I don't want it lewd, lol

>>2565514
In the original image, I want her taking a pic of an alligator, but I only sketched her for now, so it looks like she is staring into nothing

[Anonymous No.2566851]

>>2566517
Your breasts often look concave and are either misplaced or too closely squished together.

[Anonymous No.2566869]

>>2559343
her boobs appear to be floating and attempting to escape her chest

[Anonymous No.2566876]

drew this shit a while ago and wanted to redo it, any tips?
also, i really wanna do something better with the background...

[Anonymous No.2566887]

>>2559320
>>2559322
>>2559324
>>2559326

>One million keks

[Anonymous No.2566975]

>>2566851

I remember reading in several sources that they are rather plain at the top :/

Anyway, thanks I will keep trying...

[Anonymous No.2566978]

>>2566718
Thank you

>>2566851

I remember reading in several sources that they are rather plain at the top :/

Anyway, thanks I will keep trying...

[Anonymous No.2566987]

just a quickie

[Anonymous No.2566990]

>>2566987
I love it.

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2567025]

>>2566517
chest is not flat, it's convex from the collar bone to the final ribs, and the boobs pop out over that surface, you do boobs fine, but you do chests with some issues
>>2566718
you fixed few things, like torso shape, chest's hole over the boobs, but your head is too small now, and with your resizes, her torso is more wide while being a profile

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2567029]

>>2566987
it's awsome, but there's also a small issue with alias effect (edgy pixels), fix your tools to have antialiasing, we can see pixels on straight lines, blur it or resize it sightly or start with greater resolution
you should give some feedback, you're really top notch at color compositions <3


>>2566223
pic related for you, make it lewd with this BCN building, also I want to see you doing one at night
that pose is really nice

[Anonymous No.2567040]

what im currently working on, her name is Maki. its a Manga ive been working on. any input is welcomed... im still playing around with the colors.

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2567080]

will start sketching soon, is the thumbnail working?
no clothing on the thumb tho

[Anonymous No.2567085]

Can someone explain how the anatomy of stylized faces or anime faces work? I get how skulls turn in space but when you add skin on top and then simplify it it's just confusing

[Anonymous No.2567095]

>>2565765
- the face looks completely flat compared to the rest of the body, consider re-doing it or working on the shading more.
- the eyes are really distracting, they have "raccoon syndrome" around the edges...too thick and the darkness of the outline is far too contrasting against the rest of the overall softer colors in the picture.
- draw that fabric pattern on the legs by hand, it's far too obvious that you just grabbed an existing pattern that's too small for that area, and stretched it until it fits...resulting in really blurry, low-res detail that doesn't match the rest of your illustration.

i like the colors you've used, just needs some work here and there.

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2567096]

>>2567085
it's about your tastes, preferences, background of things you like and your limitations, don't worry about it, just try and focus to fix the foundamental issues you have with it

[Anonymous No.2567104]

>>2567085
think of it as a hybrid between human and alien, but with proportions re-sized to match redeeming features from cute animals in nature.

stylized anime 3D models just look like aliens if you remove the kawaii stuff and tint them grey.

we're all basically just drawing cute aliens at the end of the day.

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2567106]

>>2567104
it's a cat shape and not an alien shape f a m

[Anonymous No.2567107]

>>2567040
proportions between head, upper and lower body are way off.

[Anonymous No.2567109]

>>2567106
i thought it was an alien shape with cat features.
i'm probably wrong t b h.

[M !tMTH7Jwnt. No.2567137]

>>2567080
can't sketch clean :/

[Anonymous No.2567139]

There are TWO anons in this thread alone drawing giant lolis
how common is this??

[Anonymous No.2567147]

>>2562741
why

[Anonymous No.2567155]

>>2567147
Start over. Do some Hampton or study some gesture/form/anatomy. It doesn't really look human — has that uncanny valley effect

[Anonymous No.2567159]

>>2567139
Always a good thing

[Anonymous No.2567162]

>Doing drawing
>Go out for dinner
>Come back and PC Restart itself
>Lost it all
Im mad

[Anonymous No.2567168]

[Anonymous No.2567171]

>>2567162
Set up autosave. It's straightforward in p much every modern tool

[Anonymous No.2567172]

>>2567171
Including a stolen copy of Sai?

[Anonymous No.2567173]

>>2567168
Push those values some more. It looks like it has a scale of like 20% variation. Also, be careful about those boobs, they look p deflated

[Nose Feratu ¢π No.2567177]

>>2566978
she looks a little retarded as opposed to sad
>>2566876
are yo0u using lazy nezumi?

[Anonymous No.2567179]

>>2566978
Derp eyes

[Anonymous No.2567188]

>>2567172
I don't use Sai but yeah:

http://irishwolven.. deviantart. com/journal/How-to-SAI-Autosave-and-Batch-File-517418288

[Anonymous No.2567272]

rate my mahou shoujo design

[Anonymous No.2567296]

>>2567272
For the design, can't really tell.
Cool rendering colors.
Those legs though...

[Anonymous No.2567310]

>>2559316
even if i was a perv, i wouldn't ever use that for ref of a child anon

[Anonymous No.2567414]

>>2567029
way too lewd, but i think i'll try a night scene if it improves the atmosphere
was originally going to do an evening-ish scene

[Anonymous No.2567418]

>>2567414
How much Giantess do you do?
Or do you just do them just so you can practice doing landscapes and cant last a day without drawing a Loli?

[Anonymous No.2567422]

>>2567418
I draw plenty of other non-giant-loli things at work, it's just what I like so I draw it.
Alot.

[Anonymous No.2567427]

>>2567422
I support your love of giant lolis. Keep at it, anon!

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.2567428]

>>2567426 new thread

[Anonymous No.2567466]

>>2567422
Still wish you'd draw a giant farting loli at least once, but I approve your war on terror.

[Anonymous No.2567498]

>>2567177
not using lazy nezumi, but my drawing program is firealpaca

[Anonymous No.2567505]

>>2567272
the design is cute, but damn you really gotta work on proportions and anatomy

[Anonymous No.2567811]

Dumb crab boy.

[Anonymous No.2567997]

>>2567025
Thanks M! Maybe plain was not the correct word, I'm aware of its convex shape that is why I was confused when the other anon said they were not.

Truly worried now that you say that the head is too small :/

>>2567177
>>2567179
I guess it serves me well for trying to reply with a drawing at this point

I have some questions regarding thumbnails, am I supposed to just choose which appeals the most to me? If it's a commission should I show them to the client too?

[Anonymous No.2568015]

>>2567997
No, I said your breasts were concave, which is the opposite of convex. They should be convex.

[Anonymous No.2568185]

Monkey.

[Anonymous No.2568194]

>>2562839
>>2562877
>only anorexic girls have ribs

fat chicks and fedorabois, every time

[Anonymous No.2568198]

>>2563732

even worse*

[Anonymous No.2568406]

Lizard.

[Anonymous No.2568692]

dude commissioned a movie poster style waifu drawing

[Anonymous No.2569194]

>>2568692
that looks like a very inconvenient way to hold a sword?

[Anonymous No.2569201]

>>2569194
It's called a gasumi hold apparently

[Anonymous No.2569206]

uh oh, someone hasnt been playing DS3