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2527762 No.2527762 [Reply] [Original]

If it's in your sketchbook, it belongs in this thread.

Crit is always welcome.

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>>2527762
I drew this yesterday

>> No.2527794

>>2527790

get out of your comfort zone!

>> No.2527796

>>2527794
What do you mean?

>> No.2527801

>moleskin

>> No.2527811

>>2527790

From your line quality and overall craftsmanship you appear to have some skill but I feel like you didn't challenge yourself with this conceptually. Just my opinion, it's not bad m8.

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I never know what the fuck to put in my sketchbook.

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part 1

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>>2527824
part 2

>> No.2527841

>>2527826
no

>> No.2527856

>>2527823
pretty neato. do you make any comics?

>> No.2527865

>>2527826
meme level

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Wanted to practice a couple things, mainly shape and proportion. I could use more work with defining the depth of my subject. Anything else?

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Wanted to work on a few things like general pencil technique and proportion. I think I should work focus a bit more on capturing/establishing the depth of my subject

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Wanted to work on a few things like general pencil technique and proportion. I think I should focus a bit more on capturing/establishing the depth of my subject

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Sure, I'll dump

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>>2527946

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>>2527947

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>>2527949
Last recent one, I am cheating a little as it's on computer paper and not sketchbook

>> No.2527952

>>2527790
Sick lines bro. Do you plan to do more inking?

>> No.2527954

>>2527762
Awesome subtle shadowing. Is that graphite or gray scale water color?

>> No.2527955

>>2527767
This is really badass. I like the positioning and proportions. It reminds me of Catdog. Your style is really cool.

>> No.2527957

>>2527950
>>2527949
>>2527948
>>2527947
interesting theme. would be so much better if you werent limited by your skill

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>>2527957
I'm not limited. I can do realistic and whatever. I just really like clean minimal stylized art.

>> No.2527961

>>2527957
>>2527958
Mind you, this is 20 X 15. It's a big fucker. My problem with doing realistic and "talented" styles is it's a lot like the movies and the video game industry. People aren't willing to try to accept stylized art. In those mediums you'll hear criticism like "It has bad graphics" or "That's not possible in real life". People are lazy, they want to get lost in something without any effort of thought. I draw in this style because it's fun and unique. I don't want to undermine great artists who work hard. and I am amature at best. This is my hobby. But if I want realism. I'll take a photo with my phone.

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I've been drawing while driving with a tram

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>> No.2527967

>>2527963
That is such a solid technique. I used to do quick sketches while riding the local bus route. It really helps as far as variety goes.

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>>2527965

>> No.2527971

>>2527967
yeah I think it's a good exercise

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quick sketch i did today

not sure the face is right

>> No.2527991

>>2527988
That's dope. It reminds me of Red Dead Redemption or Gun. I love western art.

>> No.2527993

>>2527991
Thanks man, I love western art too. He's actually from Overwatch, but I don't think I did too good a job making him look like the character.

>> No.2528074

>>2527947

>signing a copy of a screenshot of a video on vimeo

I still remember you, anon. Your shame lives on in my consciousness.

>> No.2528078

>>2527954

It's just water brush pen, I do it while the ink is still fresh so it bleeds into the water.

>>2527955

Thanks! I'm going to do a more finished piece with the same or similar subject.

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a lil quick drawing of some flowers on a hedge as i was walking home

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not good enough for the porn thread

>> No.2528106

>>2527950
I like the concerned bunny, it's a nice touch. Do you color these too?

>> No.2528118

>>2527947
isn't this the short about a teacher who kills a kid because he got him fired?

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>> No.2528549

>>2527961
Learn to take criticism

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I just started "drawing". I've been using pictures I found online sketching them on paper. I'm looking for ideas on how to develope skill.

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>>2528577
Did this one to.

>> No.2528616

>>2528564
fokn nice m8

>> No.2528655

>>2528577
>>2528597

Your drawings are stiff and scratchy as fuck.

I suggest you stop using pencils,
draw with a felt tip pen exclusively for now,
and try drawing from your shoulder or elbow.

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I like pretty birds.

>> No.2528683

>>2527856
No comics. Just doodling and practicing my painting. I sure as fuck wish I got on the webcomic train a couple years ago though.

>> No.2528720

>>2527823

really cool, brah. you should scan a whole thing and put it up as pdf

>> No.2528724

>>2528596

draw from life a lot more than you draw from pictures

>> No.2528729

>>2528658
aww cute :")

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Quick study of my classroom

>> No.2528835

>>2527957
I don't mind it. You guys despise cartoon, concept, anything, and will die holding your shitty canvas and your loomis.

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>>2528835
Get a load of this fool.

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i've been VERY into studies of statues lately, fairly happy with these ^w^
pardon the shit image, no scanner and my phonecam sucks ass

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fuck forgot to resize, sorry, ignore post above

i've been VERY into studies of statues lately, fairly happy with these ^w^
pardon the shit image, no scanner and my phonecam sucks ass

>> No.2529031

>>2527952
No not really

>> No.2529035

>>2527811
I did this for a class, it had to be zentangled, and include 5 different things

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>>2527826
Trying to draw atleast once per day now, this is what I drew before heading to bed

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I like Dinosaurs.

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>>2529096

Kind of cheating, but alot of what I like to sketch I do on whiteboard in my highschool. Keeps me from getting too attached to anything I draw.

>> No.2529100

>>2528683
I think you should make your own comic. I can definitely see you making something really cool.

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wanted to see what the copic hype was so i finally copped some. theyre a bit harder than i thought lol. still fun tho.

>> No.2529457

>>2529122
yea I like markers but it is deceptive just how hard they are to use. Any mistake you make is gonna be there for ever and you have to work light to dark.

>> No.2529650

>>2529080
This is really adorable and I like it! Keep up at it <3

>> No.2529652

>>2528893
Not going to lie, my favorite part of this is the poorly done smug expression on the statue's head.

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>>2527762
Big pages...

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>>2529800
I like so much this kind of paper and format

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1/2 apples

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2/2 apples

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Haven't drawn traditionally for more than 3 months, I'm missing my live sketching sessions.

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Practicing lips/coloring

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>>2529882

>> No.2530621

>>2527993
It's pretty bad, anon, you need to work on those facial features. But I am hyped for overwatch and I was able to recognize him on the thumbnail by the hat/hair/beard combo

>> No.2530628

>>2529883
Wouldn't Draw the individual teeth. Looks strange. Good job though.

>> No.2530771

>>2528847
he right

>> No.2530775

>>2527961
there is some truth in this, but I actually found your stilization a bit immature, and this is a shame, because your subjects are really cool and original. Try to go deeper with the style

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>> No.2530787

>>2529804
kek

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>>2530937

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>>2530937
This is nice.


Some of my shity draws

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>>2530951
shit, forgot resize

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>>2530955

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>>2530958
also like to copy another artist like Zeronis, but always fucked up proportions.

>> No.2530961

>>2527947
There's a man in the woods.

>> No.2530965

>>2530937
looks neat, nice colors.

>> No.2530968

>>2528074
Yeah i was intrigued until he posted this, i remember it too.

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Be gentle. Just started drawing again. Stopped for a while because life was kind of fucked up, but things are better and getting back into it.
Tips? Thoughts? I used ref material for this since I didn't know how to do wings.
Not quite finished obviously.

>> No.2531014

>>2530984
You aren't good enough to draw straight forward, you need more construction and measuring.
Try sketching the light gesture first to connect the individual parts of your drawing, then make sure the distance between her ribcage/pelvis (1 cranium), the length of her arm (2+2 craniums) etc. are correct.

Tutorials by Stan Prokopenko, Sycra Yasin or good old Loomis are a good start.

>> No.2531020

>>2530984
That's pretty cool, man. Keep it up and you could really git gud.

>> No.2531038

>>2531014
So focus more on measuring out the anatomy first? Thanks for the rec , I will check it for sure

>>2531020
Thanks anon

>> No.2531043

>>2531014
Also, I did have a sketch that I started out with, but which is mostly erased now. I start with some measures of lines, then sketch some basic shapes and work from there. But I need to be more exacting at that stage. Maybe I rush? How can I get more accurate at that stage?

>> No.2531049

>>2531038
The principle we should always follow is to go from simple to complex - don't draw anatomy if the proportions are off, don't bother with hair if you struggle with drawing head etc.

And sorry for overlooking the "be gentle" part, I was too harsh - you definitely have a potential. Big thumbs up for taking it so well.

>> No.2531066

>>2531043
Your figure is pretty stiff, you need to loosen up. Take a soft pencil (preferably with claw grip) and draw sloooowly, almost not lifting the pencil off the paper. Think of the volume and capture only what's essential on the pose, with only few lines.

If you still struggle, look up "gesture drawing" tutorials, there are plenty.

With the shapes, remember head - ribcage - pelvis and the relationship between them, they're like beads on a string called spine.

>> No.2531080

>>2531049
Most definitely , thanks for the input. About a year ago I would have gotten extremely butt hurt , but my mentality has changed. Hard to explain. It's like on the one hand im starting to taking drawing more seriously as a whole, whereas before I took each individual drawing WAY too seriously. If I've learned anything on this board it's draw, draw, and draw some more. So I don't get too hung up, since I know I've got the rest of my life to draw.

>>2531066
It's funny because the pose is based on another ref I used, one by Albrecht Durer . ...really it's an archetypal sort of pose, the whole birth of Venus sort of thing. She is a little stiff, though. I think I captured her having her weight shifted to one side, which is what I wanted. I actually did that so it wouldn't look too stiff or rigid. But I guess I need to work on the flow a bit . Thanks again!

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>>2531049
>>2531066

So here is what I'm also doing ....same anon with the winged figure. I have a Burne Hogarth book that I'm studying and I'm trying to do poses, perspectives, and parts of anatomy I'm not used to , like the back and legs.

Tips?

>> No.2531111

>>2531095
Critical anon here. Besides already mentioned basic forms and flow, the problem here is that you lost track of the whole picture and only focused on individual parts. Try to see the whole thing and don't get too caught up in detail, it the problem prevails, draw smaller.

Another thing is the simple → comples principle. You're already studying anatomy, but your ribcage and pelvis are the wrong size and in the wrong position. Start simple. (link below)

The final tip would be to only copy when you're drawing from life. If you're drawing from a flat reference (book, photo), it's better to just sketch the pose and look into the book for advice, but copying doesn't help much, because there is no 3D volume.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqxPHew5bGQ

>> No.2531123

>>2531111
Quads don't lie

You're right, I wish I had actual life to draw but I'm a tad limited right now. I appreciate the crit anon

>> No.2531132

>>2531123
Glad to help, but don't stress yourself, man. You can always keep it as a nice relaxing hobby and just enjoy your own steady progress.
I've seen worse people trying to make money off it.

>> No.2531167

>>2531123
I almost forgot, I'm only telling you all this because I believe you can achieve a lot if you push yourself. Don't let it take away your energy.

>> No.2531185

>>2530785
This is really cool. got anymore work anywhere else?

>> No.2531278

>>2531167
Thanks dude!

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Here's a sketch from couple days ago, another from Albrecht Durer book I have.
Also this same anon with winged chick and the back.

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Haven't drawn in years, found some 2B lead today. Took me 12 min

>> No.2531302

>>2531298
oops, add an extra 10 for the thumbnail

>> No.2531303

>>2531298
>Haven't drawn in years
How does that sort of thing happen, out of curiosity?

>> No.2531310

>>2531303
Not that anon, but I did a BA in CS, so I was focused on typing up code all day for years. Hardly even touched pen and paper except for notes and other classwork.

>> No.2531314

>>2531303
Only a couple years really, both grandparents died within that time, couldn't find the energy.
Sounds corny i know

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>>2531298
one more
HB lead, on-off 1 hour

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>>2531340
crappy mark-making attempt, too lazy to finish

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>>2531351
last one, sorry I should've made a collage
mixed-media mess, black pen and HB, 3 days

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>>2531185
got more pages from my sketchbook.

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>>2531558

>> No.2531607

>>2531356

I like the contrast between the texture on the sheet/robe and that flat stuff in the background

>> No.2531665

>>2531559
superb.

>> No.2531699

>>2531559
This one came out pretty cool
>>2531558
this one not so much

>> No.2531720

'yal need to resize some of your pictures before posting...some of these wouldn't even fit on a 4k monitor.

>> No.2531721

>>2531559
this is really awesome.
any particular plans to do this kind of work with colors as well?

>> No.2531746

>>2531558
>>2531559
Great stuff man! Thanks for the response. Any work on any websites anywhere? It'd be a shame if I lost track of your work after this thread 404'd.

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>> No.2531757

>>2531746
for now just a facebook page, Regular size monster.
>>2531721
unfortunately i am still pretty shitty with colors
>>2531699
yeah, that one is not great

>> No.2531773

>>2531757
Liked! Great stuff, Taiyo Matsumoto-esque vibe, but not necessarily in a derivative way. Very unique.

>> No.2532178

>>2528616
thx m8

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still plugging away. I've been burning through this Burne Hogarth book. Trying to keep my sketches quick and fluid. Wish I had some actual 3D models to work with tho :/

>> No.2532327

>>2532322
vapenation brah

>> No.2532338

>>2532327
Oh yeah. Lol.

>> No.2532453

>>2532322
Studying from Hogarth's anatomy and hands, while referencing Richer's plates(real life too ofc) has been the best combo for me.
I think Hogarth's work is a little exaggerated, probably intentionally, so the muscle volumes can stand out.

>> No.2532487

>>2532453
It's definitely exaggerated. At times a little too much, since I want to see how certain portions of anatomy look naturally (on the surface). But its still awesome to learn what's happening mechanically , muscle and bones. I think some artist don't really need too much knowledge of anatomy to excel, since they naturally can draw what they see. Other artist excel by leaps and bounds once they know anatomy in more detail. I think I'm kind of in between.

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>>2530937
>>2530938
I love your style, it's very calm and extravagant. Do you have a blog or anything?

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>>2530937
>>2530938
What mediums do you use? I rarely use colors unless I'm doing digital, and I'd really like to change that. I can see that a lot of this is from imagination (something I really need to work on) and I wanted to know what your process is.

>> No.2532544

>>2532487
>I think some artists don't really need too much knowledge of anatomy to excel
I think so too, whatever works for you right? If a picture you made is finished in your eyes, then it probably is.
Even Frazetta wasn't 100% on point with proportion either, many times. See the hands? http://frankfrazetta.org/images/QMan_FF_Legacy_561_Victorious.jpg
But i won't tell you to "drop-out" either, generally you want some knowledge on how things work so you don't get frustrated, if you do, the axniety comes in, then you procrastinate. anyway best of luck

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>>2532531
>>2532537
I'm fanboying so hard because your drawings give me nostalgia from the children's books I read.

Pic related is mine

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>> No.2532594

>>2532572
I'm wet

>> No.2532609

>>2532544
Yeah, that hand. But it works tho. And it's franz.

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>>2532638

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>>2532639

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Finally got my scanner working.
Using camera was pure torture.

>> No.2532762

>>2532745
what are you using to get those dark blacks? and nice work as well.

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a quickie before i had to go to work...

>> No.2532846

>>2532762
i used mech pencil with 2B lead.

>> No.2532990

>>2532798
whoah, those nipples could pierce the heavens

>>2532745
i like this. a lot.

>> No.2533631

>>2532762

>command + L
> 110

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I knoe i fucked up alot in this. Honestly i was just playing with the colors.

>> No.2533795

>>2532537
hey! thank you so much! I go through phases when it comes to mediums, the pages you posted were done in ink, acrylic, and watercolor - my current sketchbook has a lot more colored pencil and marker. blog's at mobble.tumblr.com my dude

>> No.2533800

>>2532798
blog?
>>2532502
so utterly boring
>>2530938
neat
>>2529833
neat
>>2529825
terrible as well as gay.
>>2529808
why do faggots have the best hip anatomy and nothing else, why is this so common?

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Hogarth study
I know it's looks like shit
but it was pretty hard even i draw only 2 hands

>> No.2533942

>>2533937
>ET... home...

>> No.2533948

>>2533800
git gud.

>> No.2533972

>>2527948
I really like this

>> No.2533975

>>2527957
dick.

>> No.2534200

>>2527958

your work looks like shit.

>>2532572

good shit dude

>> No.2534612

>>2532572
from the thumbnail, it looks like a real photo somehow

>> No.2534628

>>2533948
git got

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Need to get less sloppy

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Still life sketch

>> No.2534896

>>2534653
very very nice!

>> No.2535240

>Critique from weaboos who draw poorly done manga and don't know the history of fine art.

No thanks.

>> No.2535241

>>2534653
Very HR Giger like.

>> No.2535242

>>2535240

Better than critique from you.

>> No.2535246

>>2535240
The history of fine art hardly matters now anyways

>> No.2535249

>>2535246
>History of fine art hardly matters now

Fuck off weeb, this is one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time.

>> No.2535253

>>2535240
>he thinks you need art history trivia to draw well
The only thing from the past that can help you understand art is the work itself, and the artist's commentary and exploration of that work.

>> No.2535254

>>2535249
It made you realize the truth, didn't it.

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for a storybook assignment in class

>> No.2535299

>>2535254

Are you on drugs mate?

History is the reason why art looks the way it does today..

That makes history highly relevant.

>> No.2535372

>>2535299
You don't need to know jack shit about the history of art to draw good.
It might help a bit, but its hardly essential.

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1/2 Looking for honest criticism. I dont have a scanner so sorry for the low res pics.

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2/2

>> No.2535519

>>2533754
i like it. reminds me of third strike oro.

>> No.2535546

>>2527823
I like this
>>2527965
and this
>>2529096
>>2529122
this has potential
>>2529882
>>2529883
very good
>>2530785
no idea whats going on but it looks cool
>>2531356
thumbnail looks good but it looks pretty crappy up close, work on your line work and get it cleaned up
>>2532638
>>2532639
love the style
>>2532745
cubist and I love it
>>2535436
very nice indeed

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I like drawing guns.

>> No.2535577

>>2535561
Drawing guns is fun, but it seems like you'd benefit from moving your guns more in perspective rather than flat views, and playing with less square glock-ey designs. Check out a Beretta or something with some intricacy to the silhouette, and some Scott Robertson for mechanical perspective, I think you'll dig it.

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>>2535577
I was trying to go for a "futuristic" CZ type of handgun, hence the blockiness.
I get a bit of tunnel vision whenever I draw, which leads to some fucked up perspectives, as can be seen here.
Its especially notable with the bottle, the rear sights on the revolver are misaligned to the rest of the gun, and the carbine seems to have bent itself.

>> No.2535601

>>2535561
that gun is kinda impractical, best design follows function.
there are too many sharp edges for that thing to get held up on (holstering ect)
have a look at USA army contracts for their handguns weapon ect, they always choose the most basic tech, because it has fewer things that can go wrong. and they normally look good (beretta ect).
your handgun design looks like a cross between the frame of a glock, the wrist protector of a degal and the nose of a 5'7 but with an impractcal sharp edge on the bottom front of the lower frame.
also by the looks of the mag the caliber does not seem to be that large of a round, the wrist protector is not really needed with small force rounds and would just get in the way.

picture yourself using that over another hand gun, guns are life and death devicesm you want function OVER pretty form.
but normally as i said earlier , great function almost always sets trends for what is considered "pretty".
take the original Ak-47.

fucking ugly gun when first milled, but well loved and now deemed one of the best looking A-rifles in the world.

just always thing function and the form will work itself out.

>> No.2535605

>>2535591
You've inspired me to go and draw some firearms, thanks family. Do you break your drawings down to better understand them in perspective?

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sketchbook then edited with PS is ok right?

>> No.2535640

>>2535436
Blog?

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>>2535605
Yeah, pretty much. Also I use lots and lots of reference pictures from all sorts of perspectives.

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I decided to try something different, being random with colors and styles. The Arabic says, "We wait all week for Friday".

>> No.2536508

>>2529080
Your signature is literally an A.
When you have the time you should really make a real signature.. I mean. an A is just too easy to forge..

>> No.2536509

>>2529080
I love the style.

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>>2536580

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>>2536582

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>>2536584
http://wackedoutmaxedout.tumblr.com/

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>>2530937
omg these colors!
>>2532531
I really need to get a hang of colors...

Well here is my stuff, in my sketchbook are mostly messy doodles..

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>> No.2536759

>>2531559
>Holy shit
Davi is that you?

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How do I cure my parkinson's?

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First trying out the whole silhouette concept today, it's actually more therapeutic than I thought. I look forward to trying out more of them.

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>>2536772
>Time

>> No.2536800

>>2536772
That robo-lady looks like she's straight out of Metropolis.

>> No.2536808

>>2536766
Focus on the form before you do shading, and then practice on the different shades and where the light lays.

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who cares about text anyway

>> No.2537000

>>2529713
Nice!

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>>2537004

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>>2537005

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>>2537006

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>> No.2537788

>>2527958
>>2528835

noah fence but cartoons also have to be 'good', regardless of if they can draw in a realistic style - it just clearly shows a lack of skill in many of the areas that allows for cartoons to look good lol

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i've only just begun drawing for around a month or so but i'm having a lot of fun right now.

I am learning to draw because eventually i would love to do a comic and i figure the best way to learn how to make comics is learn how to make lil guys to fill my world! eventually i will move to architecture and clothing but for now i am having a blast reading loomis and bridgman

also i know this is pretty bad, proportions are off and its really chicken scratchy, but i just wanted to share with you guys that i'm having a ton of fun learning an entirely new skill to me

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>>2537796
and this was from an exercise from beginner thread yesterday. This is a brand new sketchbook and i only have 2 pages filled in so far.

If you thought these were pretty amateurish, you should have seen my last sketchbook

>> No.2537810

>>2537298
Nicely rendered! Chalk and Graphite?

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>>2537930

>> No.2538523

>>2536759
nope man

>> No.2539053

>>2528764
I like it anon. You should try doing those full page slightly fish eye lens drawings of rooms, could look cool.

>> No.2539060

>>2529096
The bottom one is just a tube with human legs and he's about to fall over. Not wanting to be mean but yeah, do some studies of dinos in motion, or crocs, ostriches, etc, try get a sense for the weight, and then look into the anatomy for the legs. Those wouldn't hold him up at all, you have the knee on the front of the one nearest to us, and on the back on the further one, and the near leg looks like it's inside the body rather than on the side.

Keep it up though, dinosaurs are cool and your rendering is pretty nice.

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Trying to get the feel of ink drawing.

People drawn in the street.

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>> No.2540452

>>2532327
vappppee nayyshh y'all

>> No.2540803

>>2539311

not bad anon, work on cleaning up those lines a little bit and keep exploring

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Wish I was more sharp

>> No.2540934

>>2540894

*wish I were sharper

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>> No.2541650

>>2527963
There is so much movement with your lines it's really just so exciting to look at, do you have any more?

>> No.2541652

>>2528564
Did you make this paper?

>> No.2541678

>>2541650

you having a laugh? It looks like the next to posts are his.

>> No.2542039

Watercolour sketching my niece, trying to get better at life drawing and speed portraits. Spent and hour on this so far. Not so good at the speed part...

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>>2542039
Lol forgot pic

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hiyo, anons. finished my first watercolor piece in grayscale that I then colored in digital (kind of defeats the point, but baby steps.) the girl's hair is white in the reference picture.

any tips for watercolor/drawing hair/etc?

>> No.2542121

>>2527762

Atenttion people i'm creating this blog to share the best underground art of the internet creatives.

http://vyclandia.tumblr.com

Send your art/sound/video to the e-mail: vyclandia@gmail.com

with a description, artwork, title and link

and we gonna review and if its fit on our philosophy we gonna post it on the blog

>> No.2542123

>>2542121
someone already had that idea, it's https://aesthet-ic-s.tumblr.com/ and he does damn good job curating /ic/

>> No.2542158

>>2542043
Looks nice! Tried to do a charcoal sketch of my cousin and had a pretty difficult time with the "childlikeness" of the pic. (that earplacement doe)

>> No.2542191

>>2534653
whats up adam lol

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>>2542314

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>>2542316
How do I quit doodling and start applying myself?

>> No.2542321

>>2542318
Create a project.

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Just something I did for a friends birthday

>> No.2542402

>>2529800
>GUTS LOTS OF GUTS

>> No.2542414

>>2537926
oh shit waddup

>> No.2542469

>>2542360
Tell your friend that he's gay and I can't wait to see Ramsay kill jon and fuck sansa up again

>> No.2542495

>>2542318
just learn your fucking fundamentals already. open the books and do the exercises. anything you do before that will look like middle school doodling

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r8 shit but still trying

>> No.2542644

>>2542588
Is that a vomiting cheerio?

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>> No.2543792

>>2542644
I think it's a donut with terminal throat cancer. Now it's throwing up all its jelly as the doughy organs shut down.

>> No.2543796

>>2542318
by stopping yourself from doodling and then applying yourself.

>> No.2543815

>>2529097
>Still using bathroom codes in high school

>> No.2543844

>>2543773
AGH. That's a nice background!

>> No.2543860

Please scale down your images, some of these resolutions and files sizes are retarded.

>> No.2543893

>>2531351
what is mark making I hear it all the time what is it and how do I practice it?

>> No.2543895

>>2543893
Mark making is the method of using some kind of a stroke/symbol/pattern.

So, like, hatching/cross-hatching for example is mark making, but it can be any kind of repeated stroke pattern when drawing, for example scribbling some loops.

>> No.2543899

>>2543895
ahh so I guess like high res master studies

>> No.2543902

>>2543899
I guess? If you're referring to emulating the strokes of the master when studying his work.

>> No.2544037
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I'm working on a drawing of Milo Yiannopoulos as Nero.

>> No.2544381

>>2542191

nnnnope

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Bored in class

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Still new, and very little art training. This will probably become a wood carving. That or a friend of mine will make some poor choices and let me scarify him.

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Meh

>> No.2544758

>>2532531
I really like the guy on the top left

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This is what I did last night. I'm trying to nail down my eye for proportions.

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>>2544854

>> No.2544930

>>2532594
kek'd

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Doodling vidya characters.

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>>2545034

>> No.2545039

>>2544796
I'd draw from reference instead of your own hand, the crippling osteoarthritis is making your wrist look odd.

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>>2532572
so much has changed.

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>>2545126

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>>2545127

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>>2545128

I met this, it was spooky

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>>2545131

>> No.2545138

>>2545039
>osteoarthritis
W-what..? Do you know something that I don't, anon?

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>>2545132

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>>2545037

>> No.2545482

>>2532640
I like this

>> No.2545499

>>2545153
what's with the weird gestures and illuminati type of shit.

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>>2544796
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands

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I can't get anything right without some reference, actually, but still enjoying the process.

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First ic post eva

>> No.2545621

>>2545482

thanks

>>2545499

I'm glad you asked, decide for yourself

>> No.2546365

>>2545562
Diggin it man.

>> No.2546845

new thread

>>2546843

>> No.2548656

>>2545621
why are you glad he asked if he has to decide for himself

>> No.2549287

>>2545037
blog?