/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.2519992]

Throwback Edition

Old one at 300

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.

AVOID asking unrelated questions, There is a question thread for that.

Visit the usual "Art book Thread" to find your desired books. (Or look in the new sticky)

Do not forget to PLEASE RESIZE and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.

→ →
There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit

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>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Old thread: >>2516973

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[Anonymous No.2520004]

If you need the OP

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[Anonymous No.2520043]

I know I'm doing something wrong here but I can't even pinpoint what it is. Help please...
Excuse the chickenscratch, still getting used to digital

[Anonymous No.2520050]

>>2520043
poor construction ,scratchy lines. make sure the circle actually is a circle. check loomis's instruction

[Anonymous No.2520056]

>>2520050
I've been reading fun with a pencil and I still don't get it
The cartoons are easy but once he gets into realism, I'm lost
How do I draw a perfect circle anyway?

[Anonymous No.2520057]

>>2520043
draw from your shoulder more, it helps with circles

[Anonymous No.2520060]

I have some questions pertaining to some posts in the last thread.

>>2518860
>>2518267

Beyond the fact that I'm still getting the hang of constructing the hampton way, I'm feeling very lost on gesture. These are my attempts at >>2519996, and while I feel like these have some kind of flow to them, it still feels like there's a lot I'm not getting. In the drawing for the last thread, it came out super fucking stiff, and a big part of that was that I feel like a don't really understand how to capture the gesture of a person who isn't in a dramatic pose. The model was just standing in place so I was really lost on where I was meant to be emphasizing the curves. Also, I'm lost on whether I'm supposed to be conscious of proportion or not. A lot of people have said "Use the model and the gesture to inform your drawing, not to copy the image." However, a lot of the criticism I receive pertains to specific proportional issues. Basically, it's unclear to me how the gesture is meant to inform the final piece. If I focus too much on the gesture, the final figure looks inhuman, but if I focus on the reference, the piece comes out way too stiff.

Also the gestures I'm doing look more like weightless scribbly spaghetti people than proper gesture but I figure that mostly comes down to practice.

[Anonymous No.2520067]

>>2520060
Knowing proportion makes gestures look 10x better. There is a reason it is highly recommended to study both at once.

If a model is too stiff, you're supposed to "push" - meaning to exaggerate the pose to make them look more dynamic and less stiff.

[Anonymous No.2520069]

>>2520060
>it still feels like there's a lot I'm not getting. In the drawing for the last thread, it came out super fucking stiff, and a big part of that was that I feel like a don't really understand how to capture the gesture of a person who isn't in a dramatic pose. The model was just standing in place so I was really lost on where I was meant to be emphasizing the curves. Also, I'm lost on whether I'm supposed to be conscious of proportion or not. A lot of people have said "Use the model and the gesture to inform your drawing, not to copy


i heard some where that the more you refine the stiffer it becomes. so the faster you can get it done the less stiff it will be.

[Anonymous No.2520073]

>>2520057
Is this any better? I drew from my shoulder for the circles

[Anonymous No.2520078]

>>2520073
Better than before but still not passable. I'd highly recommend the Drawabox exercises on circles, they helped me recognize how to draw a circle really well (not perfect but passable). Most of it is just practice.

[Anonymous No.2520089]

my line quality is pretty messy when I do quick studies of figures and such
should I be worried about my line quality as much when I do these studies?

I want decent line quality in the future though

[Anonymous No.2520105]

>>2520078
Alright thank you so much for the advice

[Anonymous No.2520126]

>>2520060

Back to the books then I guess. Thanks.

>>2520069

Again, that becomes an issue of balance. It definitely looks less stiff when I work quicker, but the drawing becomes messier, harder to read and resembles the reference less than a more measured approach.

[Anonymous No.2520129]

1hr head study, kek

[Anonymous No.2520154]

>>2520129

back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.2520156]

>>2520129
Good work

[Anonymous No.2520158]

How to increase discipline?

[Anonymous No.2520165]

>>2520158

spend 1 full minute in a shower on the coldest setting without reacting to the temperature

don't masturbate for a month

stop eating your favorite foods

draw

[Anonymous No.2520169]

>>2520165
>brian

[Anonymous No.2520172]

>>2520165
Neato, thanks!

[Anonymous No.2520211]

>>2520165
is this real?

[Anonymous No.2520213]

>>2519992

[Anonymous No.2520244]

>>2519992

[Anonymous No.2520268]

>>2519982

Is this a faux pas?

[Anonymous No.2520270]

>>2520129
noice! 1488

[Anonymous No.2520277]

First drawing-over with my first tablet. This feels super weird, I hope I get used to it soon!

[Anonymous No.2520284]

>>2520268
I think he's poking fun at you like pic related. Replace object with drawing and the girl with utensils.

[Anonymous No.2520286]

i know its shit but a week and a half ago i had never tried drawing a 3d object

[Anonymous No.2520289]

>>2520277
Have you ever thought of constructing the features instead of pasting them on a face?

[Anonymous No.2520290]

>>2520277
You should definitely play with your brush settings a bit.

[Anonymous No.2520292]

>>2520286
Better than 90% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.2520293]

>>2520286
Except for the wonky right eye and the direction of the nose, this is Loomis done right. Gj.

[Anonymous No.2520316]

>>2520290
In which way? Also, there's no pressure right now. Everything is one continuous stroke.

[Anonymous No.2520318]

[Anonymous No.2520396]

>>2520318
The chin feels a little bit off, like the way it was constructed doesn't separate it properly from the jawline (even if it's really subtle it does stick out as its own shape in the ref). The rendering is so nice it's barely noticeable, but still something you might want to consider.

That aside I am fucking impressed, bravo. No idea what you're doing in the beginner thread, honestly.

What kind of brushes did you use for the hair, especially in the fuzzy highlight areas? That's the part that impresses me the most, it captures the feel of the material so well. I'm figuring it's some sort of brush dryness/softness thing but I'm not too knowledgeable about that stuff.

[Anonymous No.2520402]

>>2520211
depends, are you a faggot?

[Anonymous No.2520408]

>>2520213
Decent attempt, but you're focusing too much on the features/ likeness. Focus on the forms. The likeness should be a secondary goal.

[Anonymous No.2520410]

>>2520318
>>2520396
Thanks for the crit anon. Yeah, I see what you mean with the chin, kinda lost the structure too much there while trying to make it softer.

>What kind of brushes did you use for the hair, especially in the fuzzy highlight areas?

Mainly just the default photoshop bristle brushes + smudge tool with some chalky brush and scattering turned on.

[Anonymous No.2520418]

I'm going through perspective sketching by ctrl paint

it tells me to draw organic shapes by breaking them down in to simple shapes. Every time I do that, my figures look really rigid.
I want them to be softer/more life-like

what do I do

[Anonymous No.2520422]

it looks pretty good to me, but something you might want to work on is stroke economy

[Anonymous No.2520423]

>>2520410
Shit lmao, goes to show I know nothing if that's all that's needed.

Keep up the good work!

[Anonymous No.2520431]

almost done with this. but i feel like its starting to get a little busy? also i want to add some neighborhoods in the hill side behind the city. how should i approach this?

[Anonymous No.2520435]

The leg width is giving me some trouble but how well am I capturing this model?

[Anonymous No.2520441]

>>2520435
poorly. you seem to be outlining contours of what you see rather than really understanding the form or using any kind of construction. let's not talk about the face.

[Anonymous No.2520444]

>>2520441
You mean like this?

[Anonymous No.2520445]

>>2520431
there isn't really any consistent lighting with this. your bridge is seen clearly even though the moon is behind it, same goes for your buildings. also i believe your perspective for the bridge is very off.

[Anonymous No.2520451]

>>2520444
Ye, like that. Simplify the forms to basic geometric shapes and imagine them in 3d rather than just trying to match the contour.

[Anonymous No.2520452]

>>2520444
yes, that would make for good practice

[Anonymous No.2520462]

>>2520445
is it bad overall? nobody has said anything is majorly wrong with it so far and ive been told the exact opposite about the bridge/building colors. but they can be fixed easily whichever is correct. whats wrong with bridges perspective? and what about added houses into the hills?

[Anonymous No.2520468]

>>2520445
>>2520462
actually im looking at some bridges at night and youre right it should be way darker. ill create light sources and play with the colors a bit to make it look like its being lit. plus itll help bring it to focus and stick out more. thanks for pointing that out

[Anonymous No.2520469]

how do i approach the keys to drawing book?

Do I just do an exercise until I'm satisfied and then move on the next

[Anonymous No.2520471]

I just watched Proko's eye tutorial after having some issues drawing eyes. How well did I do? I'm still ass at shading.

[Anonymous No.2520472]

>>2520471
It'd help if I wasn't a retard and included the image.

[Anonymous No.2520480]

>>2520469
Do each exercise forty-three times (no more, no less, and if you catch yourself doing any more or less than forty-three you have to redo all of them).

[Anonymous No.2520487]

>>2520318
Fucking sick anon, now pls gtfo out of this thread

[Anonymous No.2520498]

>>2520480

ok time to gtfo and work

[Anonymous No.2520499]

hey guys, just posting an update on my progress.

Hopefully it is progress, :_:.

[Anonymous No.2520501]

>>2519998

let's kick the beat

[Anonymous No.2520510]

>>2520002
fuck capturing likeness, I'm having way too much fun turning this prettyboy into a roman statue

[Anonymous No.2520513]

>>2520510
Fuck, I love doing that too and it makes me feel so guilkty.

[Anonymous No.2520516]

I !!grossly!! underestimated how hard digital paintings are. screw it, I'm in for the long run

[Anonymous No.2520520]

>>2520472
The eyelid has thickness, be mindful of it. Even if it's barely visible on most models/photos, it's more than just a single line.

[Anonymous No.2520554]

I tried drawing my first face from imagination. I'm reading hamptons book, specifically the head section.

and its, well yeah...

ill post my construction in the next pic

[Anonymous No.2520555]

>>2520554


Any advice on how to improve would be really appreciated.

[ZesTea No.2520573]

meh

[Anonymous No.2520577]

>>2520520
My bad. I remember proko going over that so I'll just practice more and pay more attention to it.

[Anonymous No.2520581]

>>2520554
From your angle, it looks like the jaw starts at the nose, which really never happens.

Classic Hampton.

[Anonymous No.2520584]

>>2520581

Where should it start on average?

[Anonymous No.2520602]

>>2520584
Around halfway from the earlobe to the line of the chin. Just look at a bunch of faces and decide for yourself - just remember that the construction of the face is not necessarily a set-in-stone formula, but more of a reference.

[Anonymous No.2520618]

[Anonymous No.2520629]

How do you deal with very minute details like small petal buds on a flower and etc? I'm having trouble trying to draw them with relative accuracy.

[Anonymous No.2520637]

>>2520468
in hindsight, there might be nothing wrong with the perspective, i just felt that the bridge didn't fit in with the drawing at all, which is probably due to the lighting. kind of a beginner myself, so that's all the help i can offer, sorry.

[Anonymous No.2520663]

Bird guy from last thread. Trying to work on darker tones.

[Anonymous No.2520675]

>>2520637
wew well thanks. ill fix the buildings and bridge lighting. thanks!

[Anonymous No.2520697]

>>2520663
why is your shit always sideways

[Anonymous No.2520853]

>>2520318
How the fuck do you do hair like that?
What process in general did you use for this?

[Anonymous No.2520864]

>>2520697
I swear it was right-side-up when I uploaded it.

[Anonymous No.2520871]

I've been trying to improve my clothing drawing and such. Made this not too long ago.
I know it's shit, I just need to know what to work on.

[Anonymous No.2520890]

>>2520871
Anatomy to start, just keep drawing characters full body work on areas you need to improve, clothing should come later all you're doing is trying to cover up areas you aren't comfortable drawing. And hold off on more complex poses when you do get to them look for a lot of references or make yourself one

[Anonymous No.2520993]

First attemp at loomis, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2521013]

Man fuck figure drawing, still waiting for that epiphany when everything starts to makes sense. Right now it feels like a hit or miss thing, one day my figures look at least believable in space, and then the other I can't even get the gestures going.

>>2520993

Not bad for the first attempt, the point of the exercise is to use 3d forms to build these silly faces, and you seem to get that. The parts that look worse are the ones where you're are forgetting about the 3D aspect of the form and just drawing something on top of the paper, instead of the ball that you started with. It's a difficult thing to undertand at first, but it will ome naturally the more you draw..

Also some people here will tell you that this book in particular can be skipped over in favor of something a little more in depth as "drawing the head and hands" but you decide.

>>2520618

Construction feels weird, particularly on the right side (her left cheek) where it looks too big. The mouth seems kinda small for me. Still a good try, just work a lil bit more on your construction and you'll be fine

>>2520554

Mouth is too low, lips are nigger big and jaw is protruding a little too much. More Loomis-hampton-asaro-whatever

[Anonymous No.2521036]

>>2520663
bird anon!!! you got me drawing birds senpai you should keep makin birds

[Anonymous No.2521040]

>tfw drawing faces is fucking frustrating as shit
I start one and half way through I realize that it's shit and just erase everything.

[Anonymous No.2521056]

>>2519992
I tried, I really need to work on likeness more.

[Anonymous No.2521061]

>>2520618
looks pretty good, however I think the ear is a little off

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[Anonymous No.2521099]

>>2521040

When you have drawn one of those shitty faces, try to see it as underlay and lighten it up with a kneadable eraser and draw on top of it. Sometimes it's worth just pushing through even if it looks terrible.

[Anonymous No.2521104]

>>2520408

What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.2521139]

>>2521104
Probably that your proportions are warped. And we don't know if that was a decent attempt from an anon poster so that was just sugar coating.

[Anonymous No.2521160]

Critique?

[Anonymous No.2521171]

>>2520663

chirp chirp chirpy chirp
chrip

[Anonymous No.2521196]

Is this head too wide? It feels like it but I can't tell.

[Anonymous No.2521202]

>>2521160
the mouth and chin look kinda wierd but i like the rest of it. maybe the neck and chest connection as well looks kinda off

[Anonymous No.2521226]

>>2521160
the arm gets very narrow where the elbow is, neck might be a bit long, and i agree with the other anon about the mouth and chin it's a bit off

[Anonymous No.2521227]

>>2521196
i think the neck starts too far back

[Anonymous No.2521231]

>>2521196
Looks fine to me. The hair fills out some of the volume so it is believable. People vary in skull shape so it's alright I think.

I would maybe cut in a little of the back of the neck, sort of under the ear, that area.

[Anonymous No.2521234]

>>2521104
What I mean is you're drawing what you "know" rather than what you "see." You're symbol drawing. Think of features as complex shapes made of simpler shapes instead of as the eyes, nose, mouth, etc.

[Anonymous No.2521271]

>>2520004
Ok so this is my progress after one month of drawing, how am I doing?
I like to think I'm improving as fast as I should but that's most likely not the case...

[Anonymous No.2521278]

>>2521271
Honestly put your tablet aside for like a good 6 months or year. It will just slow you down at this stage in your development.

Is that second image from reference? If not, then stick to copying images for now. You need to be able to accurately observe and copy 2d images. Take your time, and carefully get all the proportions and shapes right.

[Anonymous No.2521280]

>>2521227
>>2521231
thanks my senpaitachi

[Anonymous No.2521290]

>>2521278
Both images are from reference. The 2nd one is from the OP image
I just want to know if I'm on the right track when it comes to improvement or if I'm doing everything all wrong

[Anonymous No.2521297]

>>2521290
You're not really drawing what you see. So for the moment you're a bit off track. Maybe try something like Drawing on The Right Side of the Brain. You need to objectively see the shapes of your reference and copy them accurately.

[Anonymous No.2521304]

>>2521297
I'll try to read the book. Problem is it's dry as fuck
Art books either fall into the category of too much explanation or hardly any and they always confuse the fuck out of me

[Anonymous No.2521307]

>>2521304
its filled with a bunch of shit

if you don't like that, you could try keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.2521311]

>>2521304
Well I've never actually read it. You can pick a different beginner book, presumably most will cover the same basic things on observational drawing.

All you really need to know is how to get the angles and proportions of things as accurately as possible. You can imagine a vertical or horizontal line in your head and compare things to that--which way is it leaning compared to them? How long is something? Does this part of the reference line up horizontally with another part, or is it slightly lower? How about vertically, does it line up with this other part? Can you break this weird curved shape into a couple straight lines to get the general curvature right, then correct it after?

For now don't even worry about the z-axis, just get things accurately placed in the x- and y-axes, then later you can worry about understanding form.

Don't use a grid because you will just copy tiny pieces rather than learn how to relate things as a whole.

[Anonymous No.2521328]

>>2521070

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[Anonymous No.2521358]

I don't know if I can word this properly, but should I be trying to draw slowly and clearly, and build speed that way, or should I be trying to draw with speed, and build clarity?

like, should I start slow and get fast, or should I start fast and get good?

[Anonymous No.2521362]

>>2521358
Go slow and get it right. There's no point in going fast for the sake of speed since you'll be sacrificing quality for no real reason. You shouldn't be rushing ever, even when doing timed poses.

[Anonymous No.2521364]

Practicing noses. Tips / crit please

the more specific the better

[Anonymous No.2521367]

>>2521364

P.S. getting the planes set up right from reference is a bit hard for me so tips on that would help a lot too

[Anonymous No.2521375]

>>2521367
if you haven't seen this one already

[Anonymous No.2521382]

>>2521196
It's not too wide, but I feel like the side that turns away from the viewer is missing planes that would show on the outline in perspective. Like the barrel of the mouth, eye socket and cheekbone, etc.

[Anonymous No.2521384]

>>2521364
Try adding the ball of the nose and the nasal bones. Your sketches are missing some elements, they look like two nostrils on a tube.

[Anonymous No.2521393]

>>2521364

Any guides on that? I'm a slow learner and I usually need to see explicit examples. people drawing in action is always the best

[Anonymous No.2521414]

>>2520289
Different guy, but could you elaborate on that a bit?

[Anonymous No.2521420]

>>2521414
Check out Michael Hampton or Kevin Chen. Basically you build the forms of the features in the same way you can construct the body. You can do this to get the features drawn with enough depth and from any angle rather than just flat symbols on a head that approximate things.

[Anonymous No.2521485]

))))))))))

[Anonymous No.2521516]

im just showin you nerds how its done.

[Nose "Theres something to put (...) No.2521625]

>>2521516
youre highly talented, if you want I can get you a scholarship at CalArts

[Anonymous No.2521643]

>>2521625
naahhh son. 2 gud 4 dat shit.

[Anonymous No.2521651]

>>2521160
Here's another thing I did.

[Anonymous No.2521653]

>>2521651
And one more

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[Anonymous No.2521798]

>>2521796
I feel like this would look very good if I had any idea what I was looking at.

[Anonymous No.2521799]

How am i doing? How much should i do this? Aldo should i do this everyday? Or go back to it once and a while?

[Anonymous No.2521800]

>>2521799
rotate
resize

do it every day until you get perfect lines

[Anonymous No.2521803]

>>2521800
How much should i do it at a time?

[Anonymous No.2521811]

>>2521798
if i defined things better i feel like it would get worse

[Anonymous No.2521815]

Hey guys, I want to get over being a pussy over critical, so could yall roast me?

[Anonymous No.2521816]

>>2521803
When you first start out with peter han/dynamic sketching exercises doing a two to three pages a day will help out so much with straight line gains, then a while into it you can do maybe a page or half a page as a warmup every day.

[Anonymous No.2521826]

>>2521816
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.2521829]

>>2520056
Try ghosting the circle

[Anonymous No.2521830]

>>2521815
Is that Sir Daniel Fortesque?

[Anonymous No.2521835]

>>2521830
Yes. Love me sum Medievil.

[Anonymous No.2521860]

does my neighbor make good art?

[Anonymous No.2521874]

Welp, I tried again and I got worse the more I did. I guess I need to finish the first part of Drawing with the Right Side of the Brain.

[Anonymous No.2521897]

>>2521860
What's his art worth?

[Anonymous No.2521898]

Next portrait will be better I'm slowly and lazily understanding what to do I swear

[Anonymous No.2521904]

[Anonymous No.2521905]

>>2521897
id imagine alot he doesnt even stay at that house for more than a month because he owns other houses. he also has a workshop/studio in his backyard

[Anonymous No.2521908]

>>2519992
How many hours per day/week is Aguri's One Year Fundamentals? It says each term is about 8 weeks worth, but how many hours is that? Like 5 a day including weekends?

[Anonymous No.2521911]

So I'm going through draw a box and I'm currently on the plants section. I just had one question though, how do I deal with small details like the buds on the blue ginger (pic related)? Also 1/4

[Anonymous No.2521912]

>>2521911
High res

[Anonymous No.2521921]

>>2521874
Dude, what the fuck?
Post refs.

[Anonymous No.2521924]

>>2521921
The reference are junior idols, they aren't technically risque but not sure if I am allowed to post them.

[Anonymous No.2521925]

>>2521924
Just the code is fine.

[Anonymous No.2521927]

>>2521925
Code?

[Anonymous No.2521928]

>>2521924
>>2521925
Or name.

[Anonymous No.2521930]

>>2521928
Sure, give me a bit.

[Anonymous No.2521945]

>>2521928
Actually, I thought they had their names in the filename but only some do. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.2521946]

>>2521945
Just post the ref. Or upload them on imgur.

[Anonymous No.2521950]

>>2521946
a/JGfzO

[Anonymous No.2521954]

>>2520129

6000000/10 great job!

[Anonymous No.2521958]

>>2521954
nein/10*

[Anonymous No.2521962]

Any thoughts on having an IRC channel for beginners guys?
I feel like it'd help out have a few people around answering quick questions

[Anonymous No.2521963]

>>2521962
look how slow /beg/ is (or /ic/ in general)

you think the irc would be any faster

but if you want to make one just toss me the link and i'll p[ut it in the OP in the next thread

[Anonymous No.2522012]

First ever study, never learnt how to draw from reference only OC. Lots of questions.
I have no idea how to render.
Where do i start?
I tried coloring the facets/planes but then started looking awful.
Should I try to improve the accuracy of the sketch instead?
I think I can paint and color 3d shapes pretty well but humans fuck me over.
Any good guides anywhere about capturing the texture such as hair and skin rendering?
how do i git gud?

[Anonymous No.2522018]

>>2522012
how long have you not been drawing from reference

[Anonymous No.2522024]

>>2522018
1 year
what I mean not draw from reference is to fully try and copy a photo, I do take notes from pictures if that confused you sorry

[Anonymous No.2522029]

>>2522012
>how do i git gud
Consider doing a proper study. Be patient, no need to rush the drawing.

Do it again more slowly and carefully.

[Anonymous No.2522031]

Anyone else have a cheat day where you just draw what you want instead of studying? I haven't learned anything new today and just sketched like 5 portraits.

also c/c my mates

[Anonymous No.2522041]

>>2522031
Meh, total beginner here, can't draw shit so i just study/read books

[Anonymous No.2522043]

>>2522041
wat the fucjk

what are u doing reading books about drawing if you don't draw

LITERALLY the point of this is to be shit and understand why ur shit so later on ur not so shit

[Anonymous No.2522049]

>>2520318
that hair is fucking neato anon.

[Anonymous No.2522063]

>>2522043
I'm reading the Keys of Drawing one, i just draw from observation

[Anonymous No.2522130]

>>2520318
How

[Anonymous No.2522137]

[Anonymous No.2522262]

Painting that I did on a clay pot. I haven't really painted seriously before but now I really want to start. There isn't much accuracy because I was using pretty lame brushes but, oh well

[Anonymous No.2522292]

>>2520487
>>2520853
>>2522049
>>2522130

it's not rocket science anons

[Anonymous No.2522320]

>>2521816
>two to three pages
Wait, what. I did like twenty pages the first day.

[Anonymous No.2522356]

This thread'z ork land now!

[Anonymous No.2522469]

I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to be learning from this, besides the fact that I have the attention span of a 13 yo speed addict

[Anonymous No.2522474]

its not even the same person anymore

[Anonymous No.2522489]

>>2522469
You're learning all the fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.2522526]

>>2520007
Critique please.

[ye No.2522536]

>>2520007

tough one.

[Anonymous No.2522552]

Thoughts about my still life?

[Anonymous No.2522567]

>>2522526
No sense of construction. You aren't drawing what you see.

[Anonymous No.2522569]

>>2522526

Work on construction, the face feels squished, its too long

>>2522536

loomis/10

I think you got the nose a little bigger than the ref, but it could be the outline. Really like what you did with the hair there. Also the shapes are nice. Only thing I could point out is that it feels rather "graphic" if you know what I mean, like you could make it more 3d if you work on your values, right now it has too much white, not enough midtones, but i'm just a begginer so...

[Anonymous No.2522585]

>>2522552
am jelly now anon

[Anonymous No.2522594]

>>2522552
What did you use for blending?

[Anonymous No.2522601]

[Anonymous No.2522605]

>>2522474
could be much cleaner, midtones and highlights smudge into each other. keep working on it.

[Anonymous No.2522607]

>>2522585
;^)

>>2522594
Nothing.
I'm preparing for exams to get into an art school and blenders are not allowed during that exam. Only graphite pencils and erasers.

[Anonymous No.2522620]

>>2522536
your hair is really cool. you should try treating the value shifts in the face just as roughly as the hair except with a lighter value range of course

>>2522526

if you go into the values of face and hair make sure you use it as a second chance to get things positioned correctly. finding the correct placement of vague blobs of value can sometimes be easier than finding the correct placement of precise lines

[Anonymous No.2522637]

[Anonymous No.2522655]

I've been doing digital art for a few months, but my lines, regardless of size look bad. They have a stair step effect that looks very glaring. Is there a way to get rid of this? I don't notice it with other artist's work.

[ye No.2522658]

>>2522569
>>2522620

thanks guys, I definitely couldn't agree more with the value thing. Need to build the planes a lot better, only issue is the photo reference has most probably been edited and all that information is lost in that high contrast whiteness. Gotta' keep going boys.

[Anonymous No.2522659]

>>2522637
if u were going for a pencil sketch of a ethereal ghost bird then u nailed it

[Anonymous No.2522665]

>>2522637
>>2522659
Better photo.

[Anonymous No.2522668]

>>2522655
Do you have like... an example?

[Anonymous No.2522669]

>>2522658
the quality of the photo has nothing to do with finding the planes of the face

[Anonymous No.2522675]

>>2521815

[ye No.2522679]

>>2522669

I wrote a huge paragraph explaining what I meant, but these 2 fucking stupidly placed buttons on my mouse backspaced out of the window.

So tldr: I am not good enough to lay planes of the face without reference. Reference is toplit, no value information for me to use.

[Anonymous No.2522696]

>>2522292
Why cant u do it then?

[Anonymous No.2522712]

>>2522665
dude no too spooky

[Anonymous No.2522724]

>>2522658
the information may be a little harder to see but you will find it if you go for it. please endure my mspaint skills and i will show you how i would start into it however im less line based than what ur going for i think. but u see even with smooth value shifts u can still go batshit

[Anonymous No.2522736]

Thanks Vilppu-sama

[Anonymous No.2522743]

>>2521304
I find that the drier the book, the better.

The Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist is absolutely insanely complex, its beautiful in its own right.

[Anonymous No.2522770]

How am I doing

[Anonymous No.2522772]

>>2522770

[ye No.2522773]

>>2522724

I dont see any of those values on the ref

[Anonymous No.2522791]

[ye No.2522793]

>>2522773

might be my shitty screen, menu is broken and doesnt let me adjust brightness.

[Anonymous No.2522819]

>>2522773
they are just default mspaint grays, they work for me but they are certainly not spot on, but all i gotta do is keep it lighter than the hair and darker than the sheer white background

[Anonymous No.2522822]

>>2522791
you cannot just post this type of thing with no explanation

who are you trying to spook and why

[Anonymous No.2522824]

>>2522822
i'm not trying to spook anyone, i'm posting my drawings like everybody else, i'm sorry if i gave that impression

[Anonymous No.2522825]

>>2522770
i think you should try a few more quick ones or try a more realistic one so you can find out which lines are the real important ones, and then you can simplify/stylize

[ye No.2522831]

>>2522819

yeah i need to buy a new monitor probably. cause i can only see extreme whites and extreme darks, anything in between is slightly fuzzy

[Anonymous No.2522851]

I dont spend enough time on life drawings and i know i need to in order to improve. Im curious is too how much time should i spend? I normally draw too quickly and am.done by 10 minutes. im thinkin an hour is good. Also when if ever do you stop drawing from life.

[Anonymous No.2522857]

>>2522665
>>2522675
>>2522736

the pencil makes em hard to see

you guys should try using charcoal along with some vine charcoal for mid tones just to have more contrast in ur pieces, even if ur into line art you can pick up some charcoal pencils or something

and dont be afraid to smudge that shit i got called a homo for smudging charcoal but why the fuck would you use charcoal if you dont smudge goddman nothing stops you from using lines and smudging at the same time piece of damn shit fuck

[Anonymous No.2522870]

[Anonymous No.2522875]

>>2522601
The drawing is a bit symbolic, the eyes need to be smaller and the chin is a bit pointed, the shadowing is pretty good though. Keep working on drawing from life

[Anonymous No.2522876]

>>2522851
i would just focus on making it as fun as possible so you'll want to do it as much as possible, like making esoteric meme jokes with your friends

however if you have a specific job type youre improving towards then idk cause i dont think job artists are allowed to have fun

[Anonymous No.2522880]

>>2522851
also 10 minutes doesnt sound like a life drawing

[Anonymous No.2522895]

>>2522876
>>2522880
i am impatient as fuck and im not drawing for a job so i shouldnt treat it as such. you're right. Also 10 min is because i get bored. hoping the life drawing class im takin in the summer does me some good. i just wanna draw sexy women and sci fi shit

[Anonymous No.2522906]

>>2522895
you better get on fixing that because if you genuinely want to get good, patience (alongside discipline) is one of the highest virtues

[Anonymous No.2522914]

>>2522895
yea man the only time i practice hours and hours of life drawing is when other people are drawing from the same source for comparison and i can laugh at how bad they are even if im just as shit

[Anonymous No.2522994]

>>2520001
this is an awesome ref, looks like something phil hale would paint

[Anonymous No.2523011]

[Anonymous No.2523019]

>>2522906
yeah i better. lazyness and vidya are killing me

>>2522914
i gotta find a way to put hours at a time in that works for me. I just get discouraged when others do better than me which is a shit way to go about it.

[Anonymous No.2523046]

Took about two hours. Not really sure how to do the eyebrows. Help.

[Anonymous No.2523047]

>>2523046
>eyebrows
>eyebrows
>eyebrows
I meant eyelashes.

[Anonymous No.2523055]

4 years
4 fucking years and look what I shat out

Fuck ctrl paint. fuck proko. fuck loomis saying 'oh lawl its so easy lolololololol YOU CAN LERN DEM AT HOMESSS XDDDDD :^^^))))))'
fuck these faggots to hell.

no the truth is that you need art school. A fucking good art school and tons of cash to make it. All those faggots where born in good homes and had the MONEY to buy all the supplies and go to art school. In art school you are on constant guidance and everyone will help you. Every single anon that's good who goes here went to art school.
So yeah, us poorfags are just going to commit suicide and die prematurely pitifully while those faggots get whatever they want like they were born as.

I seriously wish all of them would just fucking admit it instead of lying through their teeth each video they shit out. But nope there's no justice in this world, because why not. Lets make this world depressing. hoo fucking ray.

I genuinely hope all the people that I named die. Especially ctrl paint. Someone from /pol/, please go blue pill the shit out of him so he can be fooled to go to Africa, and get raped by a thousand niggers and get some sort of nigger virus and die prematurely.

[Anonymous No.2523057]

>>2523055
Either shit-posting or just didn't practice enough and this is coming from a beginner.

[Anonymous No.2523058]

>>2523055
threadly reminder to all /beg/gars to hide shitposts

[Anonymous No.2523060]

>>2523055
nice anti-spark

[Anonymous No.2523069]

>>2523055
Maybe you just don't have talent.

[Anonymous No.2523070]

>>2523055
Git gud faggot

[Anonymous No.2523071]

>>2523055
not made it

[Anonymous No.2523078]

>>2520244
This brush might be slowing you down. I'd stick to a hard one, low flow set to pressure

[Anonymous No.2523081]

ive been painting digitally for a year and just got a gouache set. is it good idea to use a couple pages to test mixing/tinting/brushes etc before i jump into my first actual painting?

[Anonymous No.2523088]

>>2523081
naturally

[Anonymous No.2523090]

is the anatomy okay before i begin linearting? something about the shoulders feels off but I cant put my finger on it (or maybe its the arms lenght)

[Anonymous No.2523105]

>>2520277

Go to brush settings and turn on size and flow.

[Anonymous No.2523109]

>>2521271

Stick to paper right now when learning to construct the head. Move to tablet every once in a while when you feel like youve improved significantly.

But thats a good overall improvement in that time.

[Anonymous No.2523127]

>>2523109

[Anonymous No.2523137]

>>2520007
how do i make this look like less of a caricature?

[Anonymous No.2523159]

>>2523137
Just overlay the image and see where the proportions are off. I happen to like this quite a bit though.

[Anonymous No.2523165]

>>2523046
I know this isn't what you asked about but your iris part is too small. It'll also help with the roundness when you widen it.

[Anonymous No.2523170]

>>2523165
Yeah I noticed it like an hour ago. It could be a little bigger and it isn't round enough. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2523201]

>>2523159
thank you that helped quite a bit, i glossed over too many details on his mouth and ear right and that threw everthing else off
i'll stop here or else i'll try to add in the stubble pixel by pixel

[Anonymous No.2523218]

Ref is a photo of Sandy Koufax. I know I still have a long way to go but I would appreciate some advice on what to improve and practice more. Do what you do best, /ic/, point out the flaws.

[Anonymous No.2523220]

>>2523137
measure better

use verticals to guide yourself, take the smallest shape you can recognize and compare the rest to it

[Anonymous No.2523221]

It's possible to become great at art with a mouse, surely. People just don't want to do the fundamentals over again, but I'll do it.

[Anonymous No.2523228]

>>2523221
Joodlez used to draw with a mouse a long time ago an you would never be able to tell (she draws stylized/anime in pixiv and DA).
Between middle school and up until last year I drew with a mouse.
It was tedious and you'll kill your wrist but it's doable.

[Anonymous No.2523237]

>>2523228
Joodlez is pretty amazing. Definitely an inspiration.
Why did you draw with a mouse though?

[Anonymous No.2523239]

>>2523218
Nose isn't big enough :^)

[Anonymous No.2523245]

>>2523055
Use your hate to make art. Legend says the anti-spark may be just as powerful as the spark or maybe, even more...

[Anonymous No.2523256]

>>2523218
The thumbnail looks nice so you got that going for you.

Work on your fundamentals more like getting clean confident lines. The whole thing looks like you scratched it in with your pencil, take your time with the shading. The gesture of the drawing is pretty nice just keep working, read some of the beginner books and you'll get there bud.

[Anonymous No.2523259]

>>2523218
sounding like a person on horse tranquilizer?

[Anonymous No.2523263]

>>2520004

[Anonymous No.2523265]

>>2520002

on the road again

[Anonymous No.2523271]

>>2523239
(^:

>>2523256
Thanks, amigo. I must confess I get anxious when shading and end up rushing it.

[Anonymous No.2523276]

I think I took about 2 and a half hours not counting pauses. Too slow in your opinion?

[Anonymous No.2523277]

>>2523276
saved as gif, oops sry ):

[Anonymous No.2523281]

>>2521904
I love this picture

[Anonymous No.2523283]

>>2523276
The white indicates that she is a light source. People do not give off light. Don't use pure black or white.

[Anonymous No.2523288]

>>2520004
Here's a shite sketch

[Anonymous No.2523289]

How do i draw ellipses? I keep messing them up and end up overdoing them. Following scott Robertson's how to draw if anyone's curious

[Anonymous No.2523312]

>>2521643
>>2521625
kek

[Anonymous No.2523361]

fuck me up

[Anonymous No.2523366]

>>2520004
Someone kill me.

[Anonymous No.2523375]

>>2520007
Did a thing , pro tip , if you suck dick you should start by breaking down the form , instead of guessing. Was fun tho

[Anonymous No.2523385]

>>2523375
wanna elaborate on breaking down the form?

[Anonymous No.2523386]

Can someone help me finding where the proportions are wrong? i'm reading the "Keys to Drawing" book and i'm really strugling to understand what did i do wrong (if i did something wrong which obviosly i did since i'm a beginner).

i'm not into anatomy yet, so, ignore the anatomy.

[Anonymous No.2523387]

>>2523386
Reference

[Anonymous No.2523388]

>>2523385
as in breaking down the head into more simple shapes in order to not fuck up the proportions like I did . Not sure why I did not really bother to do that .

[Anonymous No.2523392]

4 months in, it doesnt get better

if you aren't born with artistic skill you will never make it. :(

[Anonymous No.2523397]

>>2523392
the bait limit in this thread has been reached

please wait until next thread

[Anonymous No.2523416]

>>2523386
nvm already noticed, the couch part is too wide lmao

[Anonymous No.2523422]

>>2523386
>>2523416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM

[ye No.2523615]

>>2523055

you bloody cuck

[Anonymous No.2523634]

>>2523165
Fixed the eye a little bit. I can't seem to get the reflections do color correctly. As in I want to make said reflection more blue but then I need to lower the opacity a bit and it gets washed out.

[Anonymous No.2523761]

For those who are starting just like me and are reading the "Keys of Drawing" book, i recommend, before every lesson, watch a video about the subject (proko have almost everything on his channel), it becomes much easier to understand the book.

[Anonymous No.2523830]

>>2522875
Thanks anon. I made another one

[Anonymous No.2523861]

>>2523634
White goes too far right, remember that the eyeball is a ball

[Anonymous No.2523897]

>>2523634
Stop rendering your turd.
You are not drawing exactly what you're seeing. Look at the negative space and the forms and see it is not what you've drawn.

[Anonymous No.2523945]

>>2523830
It looks better but the same problems as with the previous one with too large features.
Still good progress, but overlay the image and you'll know what i mean. Good work though
not the same anon btw

[Anonymous No.2523976]

Guys i'm really new to coloring with markers. I know its pretty shit. How should i study? What am i doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.2523983]

>>2523945
I don't think he's trying to copy the photo 1:1

could be wrong though.

[Anonymous No.2523999]

>>2523897
Ahh.. Okay will pay more attention next time.

[Anonymous No.2524013]

>>2520431
lose the light beams coming off the lamps, it doesn't work that way

[Anonymous No.2524098]

These are great. Really like your style. However you changed their expressions and the overall feel of the pictures.

>>2523830
This one looks happier whereas the ref is serious/dead pan.
>>2522601
This one is reversed too. Also, your drawing makes it seem as if she is angling her head down toward the viewer and the ref she's tilting it up. I'm only a beginner but I think it's because the angle of the facial features is more exaggerated in your's.

[Anonymous No.2524136]

Just started reading perspective made easy and decided to do this after working out some problems in the first few chapters
I know its horrible and I spent way too much time on it but I feel obligated to share my work for some reason

[Anonymous No.2524169]

>>2523945
>>2524098
Thanks guys. I started drawing from references beacause I didnt know why my faces are so shitty. Now I understand better what I'm doing >>2523983
And yes, I didnt wanted to make full copy of these photos

[Anonymous No.2524202]

>>2523361
think in 3d

[Anonymous No.2524206]

new thread

>>2524204
>>2524204
>>2524204

[Anonymous No.2524219]

[Anonymous No.2524430]

>>2523090
Legs seem a little too short but I can't tell if it's intentional

[Anonymous No.2524930]

>>2520004
how to hair?

[Anonymous No.2526687]

>>2521271
Stop drawing with a tablet. Use paper and pencil, work out the fundamentals, then progress to different media. But for the moment, I think the tablet is distracting you from the basic shape and line work.

[Anonymous No.2526690]

>>2521860
Considering art is subjective, maybe.

In my opinion, it blows.