Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.2454339]

Last thread: >>2451681

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, take it easy!

>Fresh off the boat? Get back on the boat and read THIS:
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Taiwanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html

Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

/ic/: "Daily reminder that one Artist can now make up to 26k biweekly"

[Anonymous No.2454349]

>>2454339
name of artist?

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.2454383]

>>2454349
Don't know, it's from /jp/.

[Anonymous No.2454396]

>>2454339
Yikes, that hair is blinding.

[Anonymous No.2454407]

>>2454383
are you fuckin serious
y dont you just stay there then

[Anonymous No.2454411]

Sup guys i habe no idea how to paint, so ive resorted to cell shading.

any advice?

WIP btw

[Anonymous No.2454413]

>>2454411
>resorted
you don't resort to cel shading. Its a stylistic choice that you can use once you understand lighting and forms.
You're just a baka.

[Anonymous No.2454414]

>>2454411
shes a robot btw

[Anonymous No.2454417]

>>2454413
but i cant paint senpai, i find cell shading to be way easier

stop with this "style" meme

[Anonymous No.2454420]

>>2454417
You find it easier because you're doing it fucking horribly and it looks stupid.

[Anonymous No.2454421]

>>2454414
Probably should introduce some shine to make it look more metallic, and maybe some seams, especially around the joints. otherwise I wouldve guessed "ghost girl"

[Anonymous No.2454426]

>>2454420
then give me some advice

im not the middle east, you wont help anyone if you just roast my ass.

[Anonymous No.2454427]

>>2454421
k thanks fampai

[Anonymous No.2454428]

>>2454426
I did.
Learn lighting and forms faggot. Putting random squares of darkness is not "cel shading" its not knowing how lighting or forms work.

[Anonymous No.2454430]

>>2454426
When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps.

[Anonymous No.2454432]

>>2454428
but that is very broad thing to say

its like asking for help on math homework and you just saying "learn math faggot"

of course i know i need to learn more. give me some specific advice regarding the drawing im making is what im asking for

i already know im a beginner terrible fag

[Anonymous No.2454435]

>>2454430
lllliiikkkeeeee???

[Anonymous No.2454437]

>>2454432
What I told you was not "learn math" I told you "learn geometry"
meaning go buy a fucking geometry book and read it. you need to understand it all from scratch not be told what to do.
also your entire figure looks retarded and needs loomis, so get that book too while you're at it.

stop being a faggot and read the damn books and draw the damn cubes.

fuck off until you read them.

[Anonymous No.2454441]

>>2454435
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

[Anonymous No.2454443]

this thread is not comfy at all.
why does the op of these threads always make shit generals full of shitposts

[Anonymous No.2454444]

>>2454437
fun with a pencil? which books should i start with?

>>2454441
ok thanks you fixes my problem, wow im much better artist thanks /ic/

[Anonymous No.2454446]

>>2454443
You're not fooling anyone, miku.

[Anonymous No.2454450]

>>2454444
I thought you were just asking for general advice. lol
>then give me some advice

Looking into edge control should help with the painting side of things. Honestly you have to learn how form interacts with light before you can make stylistic choices like cel shading. Ctrl Paint would be a nice starting point for basic fundamentals like that.

[Anonymous No.2454452]

>>2454444
nice quads. It's a shame your thick in the skull. see somthing you want to emulate and learn how they do it. try to integrate that into how you paint. you said "I dont know how to paint, ill just do cell shading" when you should have said "I dont know how to paint, so what steps do I need to take to learn how to?"

[Anonymous No.2454456]

>>2454443
generals made by chiclocate are always shit

[Anonymous No.2454459]

>>2454456
all generals are awful because shitposting is easier than trying to get better at art

[Anonymous No.2454462]

>>2454456
>>2454459
Especially when the shitposters reply to themselves, shit up the thread, and then complain about shitposting.

[Anonymous No.2454463]

>>2454452
i was honestly taking a break from trying to learn to paint with some looser cell shading

i dont know who to start with or where but ill try to not get lost in the interwebs trying to find some specific advice

>>2454450
alright im going to ctrl paint

[Anonymous No.2454464]

>>2454459
the alt thread with the mikufag op is void of shitposts

im going to stay there if im gonna post my works

[Anonymous No.2454468]

>>2454464
go ahead nobody is stopping you, miku.

[7 !!Oeg65KN2rCP No.2454496]

I think I didnt fuck it up too much

[Anonymous No.2454505]

i hate this thread

[Anonymous No.2454506]

>>2454496
Missing a
>psh, nothing personal kid

[Anonymous No.2454512]

>>2454496
>>2454505
liek pottery

[Anonymous No.2454531]

>>2454496
It's pretty stiff.

[Anonymous No.2454574]

Still working on it, but does anything look off?

[Pops No.2454581]

i cant speak english so i will only post my shits

[Anonymous No.2454583]

>>2454581
my diiiiccckkkkk

[Anonymous No.2454586]

>>2454574
left eye looks slightly off

[Anonymous No.2454587]

>>2454581
post more plz

[7 !!Oeg65KN2rCP No.2454589]

>>2454531
You are right, I guess I didn't focus on the flow as much.

>>2454512
ancient alienz

[Anonymous No.2454591]

>>2454581
>>2454583
>>2454587
Hmm...

[Anonymous No.2454593]

>>2454591
>Oh no! Someone's getting good replies m-must be same fag!

[Anonymous No.2454597]

>>2454591
his shit is like the perfect teaser you cant measure how good he is
like is not possible to know if he is natural or he is just copying it

[Anonymous No.2454604]

>>2454593
shut the fuck up
smurf is better and that guy dont samefag as hard

[Pops No.2454605]

>>2454597
50\50 but i wana be copymaster to

[Anonymous No.2454615]

[Pops No.2454623]

>>2454615

[Anonymous No.2454630]

>>2454623
that means that im in two places at once

[Pops No.2454634]

>>2454615
>>2454623
english no good but your of faggots.

[Anonymous No.2454635]

>>2454604
>smurf
shilling namefags seem like serious business

[Anonymous No.2454636]

[Anonymous No.2454637]

test.

[7 !!Oeg65KN2rCP No.2454639]

>>2454637
wat r u testing for m9, aids?

[Anonymous No.2454687]

>>2454581
KAWAII

[Pops No.2454766]

>>2454687

[Anonymous No.2454788]

>>2454766

[Anonymous No.2454790]

>>2454788
didn't mean to quote anyone

[Anonymous No.2454797]

>>2454766
PLZ FINISH

[Pops No.2454799]

>>2454797
imposible bro( i cant

[Anonymous No.2454809]

>>2454799
y naught?

[Pops No.2454825]

>>2454809
totaly looser,but i can make some shadows when i finish lane

[Anonymous No.2454826]

>>2454788
You need to put a curve in the alignment of the knuckles.

[Anonymous No.2454870]

>>2454825
yo what's your first language

[Pops No.2454894]

>>2454870
ru

[Anonymous No.2454925]

>>2454586
Thanks m8

[Anonymous No.2455037]

>>2454450
>Looking into edge control [...]
I was hoping that's going to be ''paint until the edge is defined by pain' pasta

[Anonymous No.2455040]

>>2454496
there's a OP joke in there

[Anonymous No.2455045]

>>2454407
attention whores are like that anon

[Anonymous No.2455244]

>>2454826
what book is this from

[M No.2455256]

[Anonymous No.2455270]

>>2455256
ara ara
ararara

[Anonymous No.2455302]

>>2455256
I feel like her legs should be longer.

[M No.2455317]

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.2455386]

>>2455045
(you)
>>2455244
famous artists course

[Anonymous No.2455408]

>>2455386
The fuck you made another thread for? the other one was made much earlier and uses art from the prev thread.
Are you fucking stupid?

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.2455428]

>>2455408

No need to be angry.

[M No.2455429]

I'm happy with this

[Anonymous No.2455434]

>>2455429
mother material

[Anonymous No.2455439]

>>2455429
it makes me feel happy too

[Anonymous No.2455443]

>>2455429
Her legs look kind of wonky. I couldn't say exactly what but its probably a combination of a few things.
The bottom of the dress also isn't following the perspective of the rest of the image.
Its comfy though, I like it as a whole.

[Anonymous No.2455445]

>>2455428
No need to attention whore.

[Anonymous No.2455448]

>>2455445
btfo

[Anonymous No.2455451]

>>2455429
Dress perspective is a bit off.

[M No.2455456]

>>2455443
>>2455451
yeah, it looks kinda off, I used a bad skirt ref with foreshortening and now it doesn't translate well but w/e too late now :'(
might edit the skirt as png tx

[M No.2455489]

>>2455456

[Anonymous No.2455491]

Why are there two threads? Which one is the actual one?

[Anonymous No.2455494]

>>2455491
this one

[Anonymous No.2455499]

>>2455491
this one for anime /jp/ autism
the other one for actual discussions on alternative art

[Anonymous No.2455500]

>>2455489
You could get away with it if it's a dress like pic related.

[Anonymous No.2455539]

>>2455499
What's the difference

[Anonymous No.2455563]

>>2454506
>personal
2/8

[Anonymous No.2455567]

>>2455539
The other one was made earlier than this one. But apparently the latest attention whore of /ic/ got all buttflustered and decided to make a new one with art from another board and fill it to the brim with anime shitposting just because the little bitch can't handle someone else taking her place.

[Anonymous No.2455574]

>>2455567

theres no difference

[Anonymous No.2455587]

>>2454581
Sugeee kore.

[Anonymous No.2455589]

>>2455567
Who's the OP anyways? Never seen her works.

[Anonymous No.2455677]

somebody post more safe for work lolis

[Anonymous No.2455757]

and im ded

[Pops No.2455776]

[Anonymous No.2455778]

>>2455757
face caved in

[Anonymous No.2455826]

>>2455776
What is your secret to cute faces?

[7 !!Oeg65KN2rCP No.2455838]

wip, how is it?. I made it colorfull cuz it was fun. the thing i'm worried about is that my values suck. I think I need to put more dark values mabye...

[Anonymous No.2455855]

>>2455757
Try to keep a midline in mind when drawing the face. Some of the features are skewing to the left and right. Also, eyes tend to be one eye's width apart. They're too close in the image.
Try to think of composing the image with value, too. Well known paintings typically have 3-4 value ranges. Look up Harold Speed for more info on that.
Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.2455860]

>>2455826
let your dick be your guide

[Anonymous No.2455872]

>>2455826
Not that anon, but it all has to do with the proportion of certain features and their relationship with each other. Things are typically broken down into thirds and repeating shapes are supposed to be appealing. I think there's a post about it on babelab.

[Anonymous No.2455933]

>>2455872
>babelab
neat thanks

[Anonymous No.2455935]

>>2455838
Is the guy in the back supposed to be a statue or some golem dude? Because he looks pretty lifeless.

[7 !!Oeg65KN2rCP No.2455942]

>>2455935
yeah he is a statue, i'll paint him tomorrow and add some texture so it shows.

[Anonymous No.2455987]

>>2455838
>the thing i'm worried about is that my values suck

Very much so you need to work on that.

[Anonymous No.2456154]

Why is it that damn summer camp racoon aint dead yet.

[Anonymous No.2456192]

>>2455778
Jesus Christ I see it now too.

[Anonymous No.2456208]

>>2455386
why is her tongue so fucking small holy shit how does she eat

[Anonymous No.2456241]

Out of these two, which one benefits the comp more with the position of the text?

[Anonymous No.2456256]

>>2456241
The left one does not make me focus on that red text that jumps out of the picture and dwarfs everything else.

[Anonymous No.2456293]

>>2456241
I prefer the one ont the left. The one on the right feels a little off balanced.

[Anonymous No.2456294]

>>2456241
Left is better.

[Anonymous No.2456336]

>>2456241
I personally enjoy the one on the right. Text looks more like a title rather than part of the background.

[Anonymous No.2456378]

>>2456241
>>2456256
>>2456293
>>2456294
>>2456336
Thanks everyone, left it is

[Pops No.2456389]

left

[Anonymous No.2456574]

what do you guys think about painting over scanned/photographed sketchbook pages?

Also, any glaring issues?

[Anonymous No.2456576]

>>2456574
actually, now that i look at it, toes are completely wrong dammit

[Anonymous No.2456582]

>>2456574
>>2456576
body too big/ legs too small
toes are not even painted, how can they be wrong?
face is kinda cute though

[Anonymous No.2456584]

>>2456574
What is there to think about? It's not a normal thing to do?

[Anonymous No.2456608]

been working on the folds for too long now, yet they're still looking somewhat unsatisfactory

did i missed something important?

[Anonymous No.2456615]

inked my eva study from the other day. Haven't inked in ages, got a little sloppy...

I'll try to color this sometime

[Anonymous No.2456621]

How am I doing here? Any comments before I finish it off? (sorry for shit quality image)

[Anonymous No.2456627]

Any advice on this picture would be very appreciated, I feel I've totally lost what I am trying to do with it, especially the colours.I haven't painted digitally in a while, and I'm hitting a block.

[Anonymous No.2456628]

>>2456627
i think the way the hat girl holds her glass looks kinda funny

[Anonymous No.2456705]

>>2456627
All their forearms are too long.or whatever the term is for the ulna and radial.

[Anonymous No.2456708]

>>2456627
The table looks really low.

[Anonymous No.2456757]

>>2456608
Really cute anon. Blog?

[Anonymous No.2456762]

So what should I kill myself with?
Bleach? Gas?

[Anonymous No.2456764]

>>2456762
death by loomis

[Anonymous No.2456771]

>>2456764
>>2456764
Yeah seems fitting
I still dont get depth and limb positioning
And I dont konw why but when I draw on Tablet things look way more proportionally fucked up

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2456773]

critique?

[Anonymous No.2456778]

>>2456773
drawing would look cute if it wasn't for that eye cancer of a background

[Anonymous No.2456794]

>>2454349
Fly.

He does not draw a lot tho, nor has a Tumblr or website

[Anonymous No.2456815]

>>2454339
what do i need to fix

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2456845]

>>2456778
yeah i know, but wanted some kind of simple background

[Beginner1 !kU8GNBwUf6 No.2456848]

>>2456778
better?

[Anonymous No.2456854]

>>2456848
jesus fucking christ dont scare me like that
from the thumbnail i thought you just slapped on some CA

[Anonymous No.2456856]

>>2456845
>simple backgrounds

you can do it the way these anons did
>>2455256
>>2456241
>>2456608

just don't use that kind of colors ffs

[Anonymous No.2456878]

>>2456574
>>2456582
i scaled the legs up a bit, also changed the dress after reading >>2455451

Idk if the last dress was better

i think it's done more or less

[Anonymous No.2456941]

[Anonymous No.2456956]

>>2456941
Slaine Troyard?

[Anonymous No.2456957]

>>2456941
Anon, I really like your stuff, but you gotta practice the face more, the eyes + ears are off again. Also, the shadow confuses me, it looks like they're standing underneath something so there's this shadow on the face, but it doesn't catch the hair? It also makes the face look a bit flat.

[Anonymous No.2456974]

>>2456956
yes, my favorite.
>>2456957
Thanks bro, faces from an upper view are kind of a struggle for me i need to practise them more and yea, its a cast shadow there, i tought it would be intersting to put, i'll fix it and make it catch the hair too.

[Anonymous No.2456998]

>>2456941
Love the colouring, but the arm coming up looks a bit misplaced? Maybe make sleeve opening smaller/move it along a little, because it looks a little too far in to be his left (from our perspective) arm

[Anonymous No.2457014]

>>2456974
>yes, my favorite.
but probably the worst anime in all of 2015

[Anonymous No.2457058]

>>2456957
Raised left eye and ear, maybe it looks better now
>>2456998
Changed it, idk if it works.

[Anonymous No.2457177]

>>2457058
The collar should be a bit more open, it's not symmetrical at all(not that it needs to be, but it's pretty misplaced here.)

The arm is kinda fucked up, needs to be further and pointing a tiny bit more to his left.

But I really like your coloring.

[Anonymous No.2457836]

[Anonymous No.2458114]

Character designs for a ghost detective comic.

Gotta redraw the male MC to match the polish of the two girls. I also gotta draw the henna tattoo on the brown girl's hand.

[Anonymous No.2458121]

>>2458114
Might want to give the redhead a jaw, because now it just looks weird. The lower portion of her face is just too small, regardless of stylization.

[Anonymous No.2458131]

>>2458121
She's half-Asian.

[Anonymous No.2458208]

[Anonymous No.2458242]

>>2456762
Why the fuck is this my go to pose
I really need to get more creative with poses
At least today didnt make me want to kill myself

[Anonymous No.2458246]

>>2458131
She would look Asian without the jaw entirely by eyeshape alone.

Which kind of Asian btw.
Rusian?

[Anonymous No.2458338]

>>2458242
Look into gesture drawing and draw from life, it will cleanse you.

[Anonymous No.2458396]

>>2458114
Man, your still is overall just ugly, that anime inspired western style just doesn't works, and lots of other parts like the second girls hairs are a bad mess.

[Anonymous No.2458418]

Little sketch I did a while back

[Anonymous No.2458425]

>>2458246
Yeah, but I like giving tinier girls smaller head shapes. That said, I gotta fix the brown girls jaw.

Also, I'd say half-nip considering the need for nip ghosts in the story. Russians are slavs btw.

>>2458396
>doesn't work
A lot of people seem to like my style. Every time I post stuff outside of /ic/, it's the first thing people compliment. Precicely because it's a manga-inspired western style. They also like the way I draw eyes. Not saying I can't improve it, but it's an observation.

>second girl
Which one?

Also, bear in mind, this is a concept art sheet meant for personal reference. Not an illustration.

[Anonymous No.2458455]

> Every time I post stuff outside of /ic/

Deviantart? You'll get complimented even for the turdiest turds on it you know. Anyway, just saying your artstyle looks really cheap.

I'm not saying that out of nowhere, I was doing Anime/Western combined stuffs at the beginning too.

[Anonymous No.2458479]

>>2458425
>whenever I post outside /ic/
whenever I draw outside /ic/ my deviantart tier animu shit gets complimented.
Don't be so stupid, it genuinely looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.2458492]

>>2458455
I don't go to deviant art, just talking about people whom I've shown it to irl, drawthreads, and other boards where I've posted my art.

>you'll be complimented for turds
That's cool dude. I'm not gonna change my art style to please one dude on /ic/ with a stick up his butt. If my art style draws attention and people are inclined to read my stuff, then that's good enough. I'm gonna go through with what I think is right, and if I change my vision in style in future projects, then I'll do that.

If you don't like it, that's cool man. But I like it, and that's what matters most. Style is subjective, but I'm going to be drawing what I personally like when it comes to personal projects. Not some pretentious bs, or strict rules made by hipsters on /ic/.

>you have to draw like this
No, not when it comes to style. As my style matures it'll change, but I'm not gonna stress out about it desu.

[Anonymous No.2458529]

>>2458492
> Style is subjective, but I'm going to be drawing what I personally like when it comes to personal projects. Not some pretentious bs, or strict rules made by hipsters on /ic/

The problem is that most of those Anime inspired western drawfags like you just doesn't understand all the subtility of the Anime style, and add some random semi realistic features over what you think it is limited to like the big eyes.

Style isn't just subjective, Anime style looks good for reasons.

And to be honest, that's not even the main problem here, let's just ignore the faces for a moment. You try to go with thin lines but too many stuffs are wrong, and the coloring is cheap and random. You tried to go for a complex hairstyle for the red colored girl but you clearly don't understand well yet how hairs works.
Good render even for simpler drawings is part of art too also.

[Anonymous No.2458553]

>>2458492

>strict rules made by hipsters on /ic/
>pretentious bs

none of those guys, but get your head outta your ass. You can't just throw fundamentals out the window because of "muh style".
It really does look shit.

If you can't take criticism, leave.

[Anonymous No.2458558]

idk

[Anonymous No.2458563]

>>2458558
resized

[Anonymous No.2458575]

>>2458529
No anon, style is subjective, and you yourself don't understand what style is supposed to be by grouping it as a genetic "anime style."

Anime style isn't a thing. Is it Toriyama? Oda? Kishimotto? Oh Great? Muria? Ishiwatari? Shaft? Manglobe? Ghibli? An artists style is their signature, and it's entirely derrived by their personal tastes in other artists.

My own style is influenced by Ishiwatari, Kubo, and Kamitani, with some western influences.

This particular project takes from its inspirations: Bakemonogatari, and Bleach, while still adhering to my style. However, the cell shading is done for ease of labor when coloring, as well as visual style. Yeah, I can render, but I'm not gonna be rendering 100+ panels per chapter.

>the subtleties of anime style
What is this supposed to even mean?

What subtleties? You're taking a variety of different styles pioneered by hundreds of different artists and grouping them together as one and assuming they all draw the same.

Hell, dozens of Japanese artists are heavily inspired by Western artists like Disney and such (hell, anime started off by ripping from French animation and Disney). Look at Oda for example, who has very evident western simplicity to his style.

>but you're just adding random features. No anon. I'm picking features based on what I feel is most appealing and again, drawing from the artists I, mainly Ishiwatari and Kubo.

>but you don't just blend western and eastern styles
On the contrary anon, look at Boondocks, Avatar, Teen Titans, etc... typically overcoming cultural boundaries and blending styles can result in.very appealing success. Japan and the West have been borrowing from each other since forever.

>but I don't like it
And that's cool anon. Style is subjective. You probably don't like Ishiwatari and Kubo either, and that's fine. You don't have to like it.

But really listen to what you're saying. You're criticizing someone's art style in an objective manner, making an ass outta yourself

[Anonymous No.2458583]

>>2458553
>fundamentals

They're critiquing style anon. Saying the artstyle sucks. Not the fundamentals. Maybe read the posts next time.

This isn't "muh style."

This is them saying, "your style sucks." And me replying, "that's cool if you don't like it, but style is entirely subjective."

[Anonymous No.2458587]

>>2458418
Nice, but don't be afraid to use more confident shadow shapes. You have only a couple of darks where the armour overlaps,and those should actually be really dark in the occlusion shadow parts. It looks good, but shadows are needed to pop the form, especially on something as reflective as armour, even if it's a dull iron kind.

[Anonymous No.2458595]

>>2458575
>>2458583
> Saying the artstyle sucks. Not the fundamentals.

I don't feel like bothering continuing this style argument with you (just know your "style" is nowhere near any of the artists you mentioned), but nice way to completely ignore the second part of my post.

[Anonymous No.2458599]

>>2458595
That's cool anon.

[Anonymous No.2458600]

>>2458575
Holy shit this is some deviantart/tumblr level of faggotry over critiques.

Never going to make it man, just leave /ic/ because obviously you can't take critiques and just want to have your dick sucked.

[Anonymous No.2458601]

>>2458114
She doesn't look Asian at all, and I don't know what that has to do with anything.
Anyway, the jaw looks wrong. It's not style, it's just wrong. If you keep drawing and improving, you'll see it if you come back to this picture in a few years, and you'll wonder what the fuck you were thinking.

[Anonymous No.2458603]

>>2458599

[Anonymous No.2458605]

>>2458131
>She's missing a jaw because she's half-Asian.
Lmao

[Anonymous No.2458608]

>>2458575
It's funny how none of your theory translates to your drawing. You can explain it for 200 lines and it will still looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.2458612]

>>2458600
>want your dick sucked
>holy shit anon, your artstyle sucks
>well, if you don't like it, that's cool, but other people like it, and I like, and that's what matter
>hurr, no, artstyle is not subjective, you don't "get" the subtleties of anime style
>actually, you're wrong, "anime style" isn't a thing, and it's still subjective
>get fucked faggot, you can't take critique

>>>/a/ is that way anon

Feel free to critique whatever you like, but critiquing style on the grounds that, "I don't like it" is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.2458613]

>>2458583

Well, let me correct myself then. Your style looks like shit because you're lacking fundamentals and try to blame it on your style.

Just leave this board already.

[Anonymous No.2458617]

>>2458613
Feel free to critique the mistakes rather than saying "the style sucks because you're blending eastern and western styles." And next time don't backtrack when you get called out on your bullshit.

I'm more than open toward being told what I'm doing wrong, but telling someone, "it sucks cause I don't like it" is no way to critique someone.

>>2458605
>>2458601
What exactly is wrong with her jaw and how is it different from pic related aside from the lack of a pointy chin?

[Anonymous No.2458619]

>>2458617
Forgot pic.

[Anonymous No.2458620]

>>2458617
>backtracking
no it just sucks, stop trying to use "muh style" to defend it.

[Anonymous No.2458626]

>>2458619
First of all, those faces are really poorly drawn. The artist who drew that doesn't understand that he needs to draw the underside of the jaw at certain angles. It's a common problem a lot of anime artists have.
Furthermore, the style is completely different from your. The characters in that picture have long, pointy chins. Your character has virtually no chin, and the end point of the jaw is far too high up, meaning the jaw would rotate around the level of her eye.

If you want to fix it, just move the entire line that makes up the jaw and chin down a little bit.

[Anonymous No.2458627]

>>2458620
I'm not using "muh style" to defend shit. YOU brought up the style as a means of "critique"

If you wanna give qenuine critique, feel more than free to do so. If not, you can kindly fuck off somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.2458628]

>>2458626
Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.2458631]

>>2458626
>First of all, those faces are really poorly drawn

Still better than 80% of /ic/.

[Anonymous No.2458638]

point my fuck ups I'm pretty hetsitant

[Anonymous No.2458652]

>>2456608
Very cute, but it feels like she's a tiiny bit off balance, falling forward a bit.

[Anonymous No.2458670]

>>2458631
Go suck a dick, Malaysia.

[Anonymous No.2458691]

>>2458626
>>2458628
Following up on what you said anon. I don't see it. Please elaborate.

[Anonymous No.2458701]

>>2458691
>I don't see it
Because you don't know what the fuck you're doing.
>>>/Loomis/

[Anonymous No.2458708]

>>2458701
It lines up perfectly with Ishiwatari's drawing. If you can't elaborate your point, and explain yourself properly, then why bother.

I've already gone through all of loomis' books.

[Anonymous No.2458709]

>>2458114
hey, i think that when people here say "your style is ugly," what they're really saying is that your style and designs lack any real appeal. it's something that's fairly common with people jumping into an anime style because they don't really understand what goes into it. you even admitted that you don't necessarily understand the subtleties of some japanese artist's styles, so it try and look at your favourite artists' work and deconstruct what makes them work well.

the problem i see here is that there are a lot of details that don't add anything to your drawings. the hair and clothing folds especially are just extremely busy and distracting. when people see japanese art, something that often stands out is the amount of detail that the artists use, but the artists always have reasons for the lines they put down, they're always deliberate. look at ishiwatari's work and see how few lines he uses for his character's clothing and hair. even in kamitani's beautifully detailed paintings he puts down just what's necessary to sell the design.

look at your designs and see where things could be cleaned up and simplified into recognizable shapes. that isn't to say that you have to get rid of all the details or anything, look at kaoru mori's art from a bride's story: amazingly detailed clothing designs, but very simple and easy to read shapes on the surface.

you have your style and that's great, like you said, everyone has one and it acts like their signature in most cases, but design fundamentals and appeal are universal qualities that great artists share

[Anonymous No.2458711]

>>2458708
>but I traced so it must be right
and that's why you'll never make it

[Anonymous No.2458713]

>>2458691
dude since you dont seem to care about it being physically fucking correct, let me say this: it's fucking ugly. faces that short look wrong. you're on a critique board, either take the advice or shut up and quit asking/arguing/whining

[Anonymous No.2458714]

>>2458708
>lines up perfectly
it doesn't, his jaw is thinner and appears from an upward angle. Yours is front-facing with a wider jaw so the chin does look too high up in comparison to the width of the jaw.

[Anonymous No.2458717]

>>2458709
This is good critique. I'll screencap this to further it. In fact, I very much agree. One of my main beefs with the way I drew the MC was that I found him a bit boring. It's more to do with design than style, but I agree 100% and it's the sort of critique I was hoping to get. Since design is something I'm looking to improve.

Thanks a million anon. 10/10 post. You were very helpful.

I'll look more carefully at the styles of the artists I like, and draw some studies from their works and start applying that to my work.

I'll also use references more often for hair and folds.

[Anonymous No.2458719]

>>2458713
>>2458714
No, you're hust amateurs who can't give good critique but still feel the need to give unnecessary input to feel validated.

See>>2458709
This is how you critique someone's work. Constructive, elaborated, and helpful. Please strive for this level of feedback when trying to help others, and you will be taken seriously. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.2458722]

>>2458719
You've spent more time typing and looking at /ic/ constantly so you can quickly reply to valid criticism than you did on that drawing.
You're pathetic, your style sucks, and your inability to realize your lack of knowledge surrounding the fundamentals will hold you back forever.
No matter how long you draw, it'll always end up like shit, and in a few years when you think you've progressed so well, we'll be laughing at it in a cringe thread.

[Anonymous No.2458726]

>>2458691
ishiwataris face is facing down while yours is a front on with the same jaw

[Anonymous No.2458727]

>>2458691
Jesus Christ.

First of all, the picture you're comparing yours to is poorly drawn.
Second, that face is at a completely different angle. Yours is from the front, the other one is from above and slightly to the side. When a face is at a downward angle, the lower portion of the face looks smaller. In addition to that, the jawline moves further up.
You should be able to tell from your overlap that the parts don't match. Your characters jaw lines up with the other character's cheek.

[Anonymous No.2458729]

[Anonymous No.2458731]

>>2458719
Not any of those, but you're going to fail as an artist. The astonishing level of ignorance and misplaced arrogance you're showing are some of the worst traits an artist can have.

[Anonymous No.2458732]

>>2458691
Really ? You compared a head down shot with a head on shot ? I agree grain of salt, but get it through your head. We say exactly what we think.

We're not psychos because we're anons.

[Anonymous No.2458733]

>>2458722
That's cool anon.

I'm actually watching Macbeth with some friends right now if you're so inclined to know.

You spent all YOUR time convincing yourself your giving valid criticism rather than drawing. Your post reeks of jealousy, just due to the mean-spirited nature. For your sake, I hope you're not an artist, and some troll who wandered over to /ic/, because you'll never make it with that attitude. Feeling the need to put down others due to your own incapacity or skill. That's not how you do it anon. You're supposes to be looking UP at others, not down and spreading negativity.

[Anonymous No.2458735]

>>2458709
this didnt help one bit
apply yourself

[Anonymous No.2458736]

>>2458733
Holy shit man...

[Anonymous No.2458753]

>>2458627
First off, I didn't write that, and here you go.
But I'm seriously starting to wonder if you're not a huge troll, this level of ignorance and false sense of artistic skill can't be real.

I didn't redline anything I just thought your mistakes might be more clear if I break them down to basic symbols.

[Anonymous No.2458756]

>>2458733
You're a woman, right? Because that level of entitlement and self-delusion can only come from a woman.

[Anonymous No.2458758]

>>2458756
Not even a woman is that delusional.
This is some hardcore autism.

[Anonymous No.2458766]

>>2458729
Slaine Troyard anon? You're doing good, really like those, do you have some kinda blog?

[Anonymous No.2458792]

>>2458766
Thats me, practising faces as mines have some stupid mistakes some times.

blog, i dont post much, sorry.
http://lienum.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2458793]

[Anonymous No.2458794]

>>2458793

[Anonymous No.2458795]

>>2458753
Well, I fell for the trolls anon. Sorry. This place has been overrun with a lot of those lately I've noticed. Which is a pity, but I suppose I'll have to grow used to that.

This good feedback though, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2458796]

>>2458793
>>2458794
The backgrounds are pretty good, a bit uneven however.
The people are horrible.

[Anonymous No.2458799]

>>2458795
>I fell for the trolls anon

Stop being delusional.

[Anonymous No.2458805]

>>2458795
Fell for the trolls? You've been acting like an obnoxious cunt, constantly refusing to accept any form of criticism.

[Anonymous No.2458808]

>>2458719
>asks for critique
>gets critique
>bu-but ur amateurs !! Im a master because I think this looks exactly like this other guys drawing

[Anonymous No.2458821]

>>2458792
I love your stuff dude. You've got the spark.
What kinda savage country do you live in though that doesn't sell any sketchbooks? Sucks.

[Anonymous No.2458830]

>>2458799
>>2458805
>>2458808
Elaborate your posts and your feedback is well recieved.

See
>>2458753
>>2458717
>>2458709
>>2458628

Stop being cunts. Just cause you can't give anything past "hurr loomis" or "it sucks" like:
>>2458396
>>2458479
>>2458608
>>2458613
>>2458620
>>2458701
Doesn't mean your criticism is anything short of a troll. You shouldn't act so surprised people respond negatively when you give that sort of feedback and pass it off as constructive criticism.

Literally compare what you wrote to what I cited. /ic/ isn't an excuse to come act like a justified troll. End of story.

[Anonymous No.2458833]

>>2458114
Wow! Your style is just absolutely amazing! Ignore all these other noobs, they clearly have no idea what they're talking about. You should definitely focus on your style and on how to better define it yourself.
I noted that youve copied many other artists, but I feel this takes away from your personal charm. You should probably go off and focus on making a style that incorporates your true self rather than just relying on others or stiff rules like /ic/ tries to preach.
Do you have a blog? I'd love to see how great and individual you can make your style in the future.

[Anonymous No.2458835]

>>2458821
Thanks!
Its probally just my city, the capital probally have, but I cant go there alone, far away, the best I could get is some canson blocks, like 40 papers, im using them now.

[Anonymous No.2458852]

>>2458833
Shouldn't you be drawing?

[Pops No.2458862]

hi guys

[Anonymous No.2458889]

>>2458862
She looks like she wears a thatched roof for hair. You need to use a proper process when drawing hair in manga and stylize properly. Just copying the hair doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.2458899]

>>2458862
Yes, the hair make her head looks longer.

[Anonymous No.2458901]

>>2458862

As a tip I break down hair in 3 parts and block out the overall general shape before I draw the strands.

[Anonymous No.2458977]

>>2458862
name of girl?

[Anonymous No.2459255]

does anything look off?

[Anonymous No.2459266]

[Anonymous No.2459267]

?

[Pops No.2459334]

tnx anans,i need up hars now, i feel sad about this lvl

[Pops No.2459335]

>>2459334
hairs* but this pik it was 1 hour,sketch

[Anonymous No.2459339]

>>2458862
hair makes it look like her face is facing lower than it is

[Anonymous No.2459523]

>>2456615
Had a hard time choosing a color set. Can't decide what to do for next steps...

[Anonymous No.2459552]

Oh man.... this thread has seen better times. What's happened here lately?

From the OP
>Most importantly, take it easy!

[Anonymous No.2459555]

>>2459552
well the OP herself doesn't seems to take things easy either

[Anonymous No.2459558]

>>2459555
Herself?

OP's a girl?

[Anonymous No.2459559]

>>2459555
Not him but
>because other people act like cunts, then I too have permission to act like a cunt

I want the Spring Break kiddies to leave already.

[M No.2459561]

>>2459523
Use local colors at 80-90% over a previous colorlayer so everything is is more armonic.
Ur tones are pretty distant

It doesn't look bad but the color palette is not appealing to me

[Anonymous No.2459670]

>>2459555
she literally made a new thread after noticing someone else made a new thread before her.
she also attacked the earlier thread by telling people to report it and stick to this one with an op pic taken from another board because the previous thread has no anime artwork.

why the fuck are the mods letting this attention whoring piece of shit exist and ruining generals

[Anonymous No.2459675]

>>2459670
You mean this thread with the samefag >>/ic/thread/S2454275

[Anonymous No.2459682]

>>2459675
That thread was made 50 minutes before this one with the attention whoring tripfag as the op

and just look at the desperate bitch shitposting and deleting her posts near the bottom

Good god, please fucking kill yourself you cancerous delusional shithead.

[Anonymous No.2459683]

Speaking of which does the op of these threads even draw? ive never seen art from her, what is a non artist doing in /ic/ anyways? is she contributing to 90% of the shitposts?

[Anonymous No.2459685]

>>2459682
>>2459683

It seems your ban has been lifted and you're in need of another one.

[Anonymous No.2459689]

>>2459685
Who the fuck are you talking about, retard?

[Chicocalte No.2459691]

>>2459685
Forgot your trip, dumb bitch.

[Anonymous No.2459693]

>>2459685
You should listen to him, i've seen your trip in the OP all the time and none of the threads has been great. Let other people make threads, you're not in charge of anything around here.

[Anonymous No.2459699]

>>2459693

I'm not the op (like it matters?). The thread was quiet until just now is all I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.2459703]

>>2459689
>>2459691
>>2459693
Hello, Malaysia. How's that autism treating you?

[Anonymous No.2459707]

>>2459675
That thread is pretty good. Why do people flock over to this one? I've learned nothing from this shit thread other than the fact everyone is a shit scribbler, circlejerks on good works and dont bother taking pointers from good artists.

[Anonymous No.2459708]

>>2459703
what the fuck is this malaysia meme

[Anonymous No.2459717]

>>2459708
The prized boogieman of the dunning kruger aspies that spent no less than a month on /ic/.
Everyone who called out bullshit on shitposting retards like the OP is instantly called malaysia.

[Anonymous No.2459724]

>>2459717
All the posts telling dumbfucks here to stop feeding to bullshit such as circlejerking on artists that makes /ic/ their personal blog and pandering to anime is called out as malaysia.

Everytime someone is called out as Malaysia you know someone is trying to make /ic/ a better place.

[Anonymous No.2459725]

Decided to try my hand at a character I did in 2015, could've been better but eyy.

[Anonymous No.2459743]

Looks like a shitton of these aspies hates art.
Why are they posting on /ic/ in the first place?
I bet every single artwork they see reminds them of their boogieman.

[Anonymous No.2459752]

>>2459708
>>2459717
>>2459743
>>2459724
How retarded are you? I mean, you don't even try to change up the way you write. You're the only one who keeps repeating boogieman and aspie in every fucking post you make, and you always reply to yourself. You're not exactly hard to spot.

[Anonymous No.2459757]

>>2459725
good job on the redesign anon
..like what the fuck were you even thinking when designing that cleaver on the previous version

[Anonymous No.2459777]

>>2459752
who the fuck is this boogieman you're referring to, bitch aspie?

[Anonymous No.2459783]

>>2459757
Thanks man, I was still fanboying over Berserk so probably Zodd's sword.

[Anonymous No.2459784]

>>2459752
>muh malaysia boogieman
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.2459817]

Orthodox waifu WIP.

[Anonymous No.2459828]

[Anonymous No.2459835]

This is a containment thread for beginners who cant draw for shit and think theyre the best /ic/ has to offer.

/delusional_fucks/ the thread
compare yourselves to the main drawthread.

[Anonymous No.2459837]

>>2459835

[Anonymous No.2459840]

>>2459835
But a lot of the people in the main drawthread do stylized works.

[Anonymous No.2459841]

>>2459835
I'd call it bait but it's obvious you're just jaded you can't draw anime or realism. Have a beer and chill m8.

[Anonymous No.2459875]

>>2459837
i love these
please make more anon

[Anonymous No.2459877]

>>2459835
>MY THREAD>YOUR THREAD faggotry
never gonna make it senpai

[Anonymous No.2459888]

>>2459840
a lot of those people didnt miss the beginner threads
Theyre also properly functioning individuals

[Anonymous No.2459892]

>>2459875
agreed I love these

[Anonymous No.2459920]

>>2459875
doing studies and a demon loli sketchy comic, no time for chibi rin heads.

[Anonymous No.2459922]

>>2458796
they are good aswell you fuck-o

[Anonymous No.2459999]

Anon did you finish pic related? I like it a lot, post it when done plz.

[Anonymous No.2460002]

>>2454581
>>2454766
>>2455776
Blog please?

[Anonymous No.2460013]

>>2459828
Or more bright sunset. Is it too much?

[Pops No.2460017]

>>2460002
i will just update here and other animethreads

[Anonymous No.2460018]

>>2460013
the lighting doesn't make sense tbqh senpai

[Anonymous No.2460019]

>>2460018
Why?

[Anonymous No.2460027]

>>2460017
Will keep an eye on you then, cheers.

Are there any tips or stuff you could share? How did you develop your style? Have you studied anything in particular, like some books or artists?

[Anonymous No.2460029]

>>2460019
some of the objects (like the trees) look like they got their major light source coming from the viewer's direction when the actual main light source (the sun) comes from the opposite side

also what's up with the thin outlines on the boy? it looks really out of place

[Anonymous No.2460033]

>>2460013
I agree with anon about the lighting on the trees but it's fine anywhere else in my opinion.

I also agree that the boy isn't wrong himself per se but compared to the rest he's a bit out of place? It's as if he got copy pasted in your drawing, the style doesn't really match. Can you see it? I recommend pivoting your drawing / looking at it from other angles.

I like the general composition otherwise, it's nice.

[Anonymous No.2460047]

>>2460029
>some of the objects (like the trees) look like they got their major light source coming from the viewer's direction
Ok, it's really weird, i redo the trees.
>>2460033
>>2460029
I still don't understand what's wrong with the girl (yes, it's not a boy). Lines too thin? But she's small and thick lines will look bad on the face for example. I don't like lines on this picture anyway.

[Anonymous No.2460063]

>>2460047
if you can't make her lines thinner then try thinning out the lines on the trees / other objects to match her lines

right now the difference is just too jarring

[Anonymous No.2460065]

>>2460047
The lines are thin and don't have any variation in size so that sort of light lighting effect you did all around her is amplifying that making it look odd.

Try without the thin light thing all around first to see how it looks and work from there.

[Anonymous No.2460070]

>>2455776
that hand doesn't read well, it looked like oddly forshortened legs at first. Maybe it's a tangent or something?

[Anonymous No.2460079]

>>2460063
>>2460065
Ok, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2460080]

>>2459255
Head too big.

[Anonymous No.2460131]

>>2460080
Thanks. At least it's something easy to fix.
I was more worried about the body

[Anonymous No.2460160]

Made this for the tower girls and easter, Any critique?

[Anonymous No.2460225]

>>2460160

I don't like the brush you used.

[Anonymous No.2460235]

>>2459708
Some kid without live. He's a one of reasons why you shouldn't care about critique on anonymous imageboard
>>/ic/thread/S2451681

[Anonymous No.2460246]

>>2460235
he's one of the reasons why you should fuck off back to dA

[Anonymous No.2460251]

>>2460246
fuck off tumblr

[Anonymous No.2460252]

>>2460235

literally who

[Anonymous No.2460266]

>>2460235
Speaking of people with no lives, why are you stalking him like some pathetic autist?

[Anonymous No.2460268]

>>2460235
Someone actually took the time to distinguish some guys posts.

[Anonymous No.2460271]

>>2460268
yeah man it's so hard to copy paste some text into a 4chan archive, shit's pathetic

[Anonymous No.2460275]

>>2460271
Thet could have been drawing.

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.2460279]

New thread >>2460258

[Anonymous No.2460282]

>>2460275
so could have all of malaysia's shitposts, it doesn't really matter now does it?

[Anonymous No.2460286]

>>2460268
the time that should be taken on focusing on art is wasted with drama and sperging.
avoid these shit threads at all costs and Only post in the main drawthread for actual art discussions

Heres a new one made by the attention whoring OP:
>>2460258
>>2460258
>>2460258

[Anonymous No.2460288]

>>2460282
He updates frequently on his sites.
I doubt he even posts here.

[Anonymous No.2460292]

>>2460286

Don't tell me what to do.

[Anonymous No.2460764]

>>2460286
thats not op thats a tripfag you fucking autistic fuck & ill post in what the fuck ever thread i want to if you dont like it then go eat a dick

[Anonymous No.2461772]

>>2458619
These characters have smaller mouths than your characters which is why it looks okay