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[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.2415527]

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Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>dA /ic/ group :
http://4chan-ic.deviantart.com

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>General resources :
http://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/
http://sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
http://characterdesigns.com/
http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts

>fellowBro's books :
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8

>Figure Drawing Tool:
http://pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
http://posemaniacs.com/

>Photoshop Brushes
http://cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/tower_of_evilzz

[Anonymous No.2415554]

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.2415606]

Since nobody rated last thread i'm going to post it again

Rate pls

[Anonymous No.2415615]

>>2415554
The goat legs are kind of wonky. The tibia should be much longer, and the metatarsal bones should be much shorter. Also, the arms seem kinda long to me.
Other than that, though, she looks like a qt.

[Anonymous No.2415617]

Its my first sketch (literally ever), I know its shit, and I know I need Loomis. Working on that now, but I really wanted to draw somthing for fun.

[Anonymous No.2415620]

>>2415457
>>2415507
me
do i have potential to become an artist one day?

[Anonymous No.2415622]

>>2415554
looks a little cringe

[Anonymous No.2415623]

>>2415620
I dont think so, you need the spark for that.

>>2415617
No spark
>>2415606
Possible Spark
>>2415554
No spark

[Anonymous No.2415627]

>>2415617
whats loomis?

>>2415623
>I don't think so

you don't 'think' so there's a possibility?

[Anonymous No.2415628]

>>2415622
Could you explain why? What do I need to improve then?

[Anonymous No.2415633]

>>2415627
LOW ENERGY

Get a spark son...

[Anonymous No.2415636]

>>2415633
ah, thanks

[Anonymous No.2415639]

>>2415617
>Its my first sketch (literally ever), I know its shit, and I know I need Loomis. Working on that now, but I really wanted to draw somthing for fun.
It's actually not super shit if that's really your first sketch. Your name issue seems to be poportion and perspective.

You can get good at this. Fix that shit

[Churgethoth No.2415643]

>>2415554
>>2415617
Both of these suffer from wonky anatomy and really scratchy line quality. Please consider practicing figure drawing out of one of the references in the beginner thread.

[Churgethoth No.2415647]

>>2415606
You took a shadowy, misoriented photo using your phone, so it's impossible to critique the art.

[Anonymous No.2415650]

>>2415643
The scratchy line is not definitive, it's a scribble.

[Anonymous No.2415658]

>>2415650
Attack on titan person here. I'm having line control issues due to trembling in my hands. I'm going to go redo the linework with the line tool. The mess in the middle is Annie crystalizing Mikasa.

[Anonymous No.2415666]

>>2415658
(I'm the person who drew the goat-thing)

[Churgethoth No.2415669]

>>2415658
Don't bother redoing the linework until you practice figure drawing fundamentals. I suggest the figure drawing video series on proko.com
https://youtu.be/74HR59yFZ7Y?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHGuMuprDarMz_Y9Fbw_d2ws
If you spend time inking a crappy drawing, you just end up with a crappy inked drawing. You won't be able to fix the major mistakes while putting in a line layer.

[Anonymous No.2415679]

>>2415669
Will do. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2415708]

is it difficult to transition from paper and pencil to a tablet?

[Anonymous No.2415712]

Almost done with this, going for a really stylized look. Any feedback?

[Anonymous No.2415750]

>>2415712
that axe is way to big that would be super heavy try studying loomis so you understand these amateur errors

[Anonymous No.2415767]

>>2415750

> going for a really stylized look

I'm pretty sure that the axe is obviously too big to be wielded. It's done purposely.

Then again, not sure if b8 or just /ic/ dickery

[Anonymous No.2415773]

>>2415750
Solid 20 seconds of Keks
>>2415767
/ic/ is better than most but you're still on 4chan. E. :spark

[Anonymous No.2415779]

yet another confort zone portrait

[Anonymous No.2415782]

>>2415606
your style is interesting and seems like you could get a lot better with a teacher. look up on comic art tutorials. try copying/drrawing realistic gasmasks from photos. i can easily imagine post-apocalyptic artworks in your style.

[Anonymous No.2415785]

and a thing for a thing with a friend

[Anonymous No.2415793]

>>2415623
Thanks fampai! I'll always try harder and strive for perfection

>>2415647
It was night and I wasn't home. I think you can see the art pretty well, but thats my opinion. Have the scanned version, I lowered light a bit so you can see it better
Rate

[Anonymous No.2416002]

>>2415785
I actually love this...so much

[Anonymous No.2416032]

>>2415785
Good thumbnail. What're your brushes?

[Anonymous No.2416039]

>>2415793
MEDIOCRE

[Anonymous No.2416051]

>>2415793
S Y M B O L
D
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A
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[Churgethoth No.2416065]

WIP of a full portrait and not just a loomis head. This is my first attempt at a big shaded portrait digitally so I am not used to the workflow and relying on traditional pencil-like brushes rather than digital tools. I am just scanning around fixing random things and cleaning up edges when I notice them. Feel like I'm about 50% done.

[Anonymous No.2416070]

Just finished this moments ago. Thoughts?

[Churgethoth No.2416072]

>>2415793
Not sure if this is from a reference but the features are asymmetrical, suggesting no construction of the head prior to drawing them, and the pencil lines are really wide, suggesting that you drew this small on the paper. There's only the minimum of shading and it's only on some features and not others, and the hatch marks are too sporadic to define the volumes.
Try drawing larger to fill the whole paper, and use a good reference. Build the head and features from shapes and choose a light source to help shade the volumes methodically.

[Anonymous No.2416074]

>>2416070

sorry, heres the resize.

[Churgethoth No.2416078]

>>2416074
Looks nice, lots of good detail on the cloth and armor and the anatomy seems fine.
The biggest problem right away is the lighting. The light source appears to be the sun behind him, yet the lighting on the figure is inconsistent. The armor and cloth, and the cast shadow of the head suggests a light source above and to the left, but his face and hand is fully illuminated by a strong close light directly above.

[Anonymous No.2416082]

>>2416072
>>2416078

thanks, here's the reference I used for the face. do you think my lighting problem could be solved by just erasing the sun?

[Anonymous No.2416085]

>>2416074
Dunno if it's just me, but something about his left hand looks off.

[Anonymous No.2416087]

working on this still, not sure where to go from here

[Anonymous No.2416098]

>>2416087
sick af family man

[Super Smash Bros. Melee for th(...) No.2416104]

>>2416074
>>2416085
pinky and ring fingers seem a little too long relative to length of middle finger

otherwise real good

[Anonymous No.2416128]

>>2416074
will typeup changes later

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2416130]

>>2415712
even if the axe did work, having it be there simply kills composition. Also. Its really cluster (like why would she have a wooden foot as well of all the other things we have to pay attention to.) and you're abusing of big shapes on your designs.

[Anonymous No.2416133]

Am I better than my art teacher or am I going crazy??? Like what is that and how is that in her professional portfolio?
Anyway, one on the left is mine, first serious nude study from life, probably around 15 minutes. I didn't put nearly enough time into construction, fucked up the hip and head. Do you guys have tips on getting construction down quickly and accurately without being laborious about it? Also, please forgive chicken scratch, working on it.

[Anonymous No.2416142]

>>2416133
lol my nigga , why the fuck are you letting this woman teach you ?

[Anonymous No.2416145]

>>2416133
Better? No. You're both shit. That teacher has no business teaching anyone art.

[Anonymous No.2416148]

>>2416087
Try to stay away from using pure black. besides that the mountain forms are beautiful and the graphic quality to the fauna in the foreground is refreshing.

[Anonymous No.2416179]

>>2416128
moved sun to better fit the light source
made the light gradate more from top to bottom
moved arm up and defined forearm
knuckles of the hand curve inward
widened range of values, defined cloth a little more
added triangles cuz there was a tangent

[Anonymous No.2416186]

>>2415712
If she really uses it why would she hold it at the very end like that?

[Anonymous No.2416193]

>>2416142
It's Community College, just wanted to be in some type of art class :v
>>2416145
I can only improve with practice then! But yeah, I agree. I'm surprised, she's been teaching for like 20 years.

Another draw from the other night

[Churgethoth No.2416198]

>>2416193
That's not bad at all. Really nice. For a timed live model the detail is impressive. The hair is hastily shaded but that's no big deal.

[Anonymous No.2416203]

Photobashing a car for a client. I painted the thing out in black and white first and now I'm adding photobashed details (like the bumper).

[Churgethoth No.2416207]

>>2415712
The coloring and shading shows some talent, but the highlights on the arms and boot are off. The hand on the hip is too large and the leg and boot are misshapen.
Scale back the axe. It's way too large even for comic effect. If you want a huge axe maybe make the handle as long as she is tall and it would still be impressive.
Add a background of some sort, even just a warm or cool grey. It helps to not have a white background for choosing colors, since nearby colors determines the relative value of the other colors.

[Anonymous No.2416218]

>>2416148

thanks, next time I will try starting with a simple reduced palette and forms and take it from there

[Anonymous No.2416222]

>>2416087
put a gondola in it

[Anonymous No.2416247]

First attempt at color.

I feel like something is heavily fucked but can't tell what, halp

[Anonymous No.2416260]

>>2416247
What's with that psycho stare and pussy hair eyebrows?

[Anonymous No.2416262]

>>2416260
anything hair related (hair, eyelashes, eyebrows) is obviously not worked on psycho stare is intentional

[Anonymous No.2416281]

I'm really thinking of adding a headhunter elise on the very top, hanging from her string to make this a vertical illustration.

[Anonymous No.2416310]

>>2416281
>make this a vertical illustration.
mite b cool
You don't see a lot of compositions like that these days unless they're intended for phone backdrops.

[Anonymous No.2416328]

>>2416128
>>2416179

thanks a lot dude. I agree with you on some of these changes and they seem totally doable.

[Anonymous No.2416341]

>>2416328
np man, rendering on the torso cloth is nice.

btw with the sun change i realized it actually doesnt make sense to have it in the picture at all so id recommend you remove it altogether

[Anonymous No.2416351]

new self portrait

[Anonymous No.2416357]

>>2416351
>flat
>misshapen
>boring composition
>boring colors
Same thing every time

[Anonymous No.2416359]

>>2416357
your right. next time ill paint myself backflipping into a dragon's asshole using only magentas

[Anonymous No.2416362]

[fuckingtripfag !VDpnjBYkP2 No.2416365]

>>2416357
>>2416359
rekt

[Anonymous No.2416366]

>>2416359
>>2416365
>samefag that can't take criticism

[Anonymous No.2416398]

Another study.

[Anonymous No.2416401]

>>2416398
I like it

[Anonymous No.2416402]

>>2416398
gettin a real caitlin jenner vibe

[Anonymous No.2416423]

lines for a painting of my skyrim character, hopefully.
I have issues when drawing people that they often look like they have no gender, or they look like the opposite gender. for a long time when I drew people they just looked like feels guy. advice?

[Anonymous No.2416451]

>>2416398
it's a yes from me

[Anonymous No.2416460]

>>2416401
>>2416451
Thanks you beautiful anons

>>2416402
Is that supposed to be an insult? She is good looking to be like 60 bruh

[Anonymous No.2416473]

Been trying my hand at digital painting. The construction though is more akin to drawing than painting (the concept of laying down millions of little shapes and strokes until you get a concise image is foreign to me). Anyway the one the left is recent and the one on the right is a sketch of mine from little less than a year ago. Feedback is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.2416487]

>>2416473
nice

[Anonymous No.2416489]

>>2416423
Check Proko or loomis out.

>>2416473
Anatomy sucks and understated lighting but at least it looks like you have put some effort into it. Grab an anatomy book and study.

[Anonymous No.2416490]

>>2416423
got the face done for now. can somebody please tell me if it's too yellow? my laptop's display of colors is way off.

[Anonymous No.2416496]

>>2416398
Whats with the grainy ass copypasted lasso look

>>2416490
Yes its too yellow. Shift the hue a bit over to red.
Generally; define the eyelashes more, add lip color, add accessories.

[Anonymous No.2416497]

>>2416496
no copypaste or lasso tool. just a shitload of sharpening effects anon
i wish i could use the lasso tool without it looking like crap´:/

[Anonymous No.2416512]

Roughing out a character. Wanted to get a general idea about the pose, the construction, things like that.

[Anonymous No.2416516]

>>2416512
I like it , make some more clean lineart

[Anonymous No.2416517]

>>2415527
Is it okey ? Please be savage .

[Anonymous No.2416530]

>>2416516
progress

[Anonymous No.2416531]

>>2416530
much better, i like it , the expression is weird tho, i think is the mouth

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2416541]

>>2416517
unix is that you?

[Anonymous No.2416559]

>>2416530
Looks like the happy mask salesman from majora's mask.

[Anonymous No.2416567]

>>2416530
Her left hand is too far away
And her right looks a tad too big even with the glove
Her deltoids are way too thin
I love big tighs but those are too disproportionate

[Anonymous No.2416584]

>>2416531
it's the right eye

[Anonymous No.2416607]

studies because my imagination is shit right now

[Anonymous No.2416608]

>>2416082
Anon, you're not me

[Anonymous No.2416627]

>>2416517
nope , i'm not unix , sorry to dissapoint you

[Anonymous No.2416629]

>>2416541
fuck sorry , no i'm not unix

[Anonymous No.2416631]

>>2416607
i like your lines

[Anonymous No.2416635]

>>2416517
what's with the green ?

[Anonymous No.2416651]

Almost done with the book. So many stuff to practice.

[Anonymous No.2416653]

>>2416651
wow , i really like it

[Anonymous No.2416655]

>>2416651
change the brush settigns , the line tool makes this thin weird line

[Anonymous No.2416672]

>>2416460
He also looks like a tranny because he is a tranny so yes, it's an insult

[Anonymous No.2416676]

>>2416497
>>2416398
Stop using sharpening and blur tools, it looks awful. Also, the head is too tall, her face is fine, but her forehead and chin are too big.

[Anonymous No.2416695]

>>2416473
Yeah, dude, you need to go back and practice anatomy, it looks like you put a lot of time into polishing this drawing, but it would really be a time better expended doing some studies.

It won't look bad for a layman like this anon >>2416487 but everything looks plastic, his pose is too stiff, his face emotionless, the painting and values are flat,the rendering is borderline pillowshading, and it's specially bad zooming in, where you can clearly see some blurry parts juxtaposed with some unexplicably sharp pixels.
Study anatomy, gestures and figures, form and values. Also next time research armor references, don't try to create them from scratch, and decide where your light is coming from instead of shading wherever feels right.

[Anonymous No.2416780]

>>2416676
Fixed, you were right. It looks better now.
Also I don't use blur. Just sharpening. It's my chromatic aberration, I'll miss it :'(
Anyways thank you!!

[Anonymous No.2416806]

>>2416651
Studying from michael hampton?

very nice btw

[Anonymous No.2416824]

>>2416651
What book?

[Anonymous No.2416828]

grass studie

[Boy No.2416836]

>>2416541
>the issue is you would rather draw everything but the second eye and you can only draw the right eye

yea were right i don't know how to draw the left eye and yesterday was my first day on /ic/ but i found the beginner thread thanks

[Anonymous No.2416852]

>>2413531
Help pls. Shadow looks brighter because lol graphite (its a B6 if you are wondering).

[Anonymous No.2416859]

>>2416828
the highlights look a little too bright to me. the light should be more diffuse as individual grass blades aren't so reflective.

[Anonymous No.2416934]

>>2415712
it's interesting!! it's cool that you're playing around with stylization and exaggeration, just remember that if you're going to make one thing really crazy all the other elements should be pretty crazy too. in this case, while you've got a fuckhuge axe, the girl's proportions are all fairly normal, or they don't really compliment the axe well enough, at least. i would play around with the girl's design a bit and really try and push her attitude and proportions a bit to sell her character, right now she's sort of just a generic viking. increase the helmet size! lengthen the horns! exaggerate her gloves and armour! just play around with exaggerating one or two of her features and see what comes out of it.

also, although a giant axe can be fun, exaggeration doesn't just mean increase the size by 300%, lol! it should still look reasonably proportionate and believable in relation to the rest of the image, otherwise it can start to look out of place. when you're working with more stylized or exaggerated stuff, it also opens up some room for some fun designing, so do a bunch of research on axes and try and make some cool shapes out of the handle or the head of the axe.

pic are some drawings i did to play around a bit with the design. it might be too cartoony for what you're looking to do, but i hope it sort of illustrates what i'm getting at!!

[Anonymous No.2416955]

>>2416852
You need to soften some of those edges and really push your darker values to match the reference. Grab a Staedtler 8B or some other darker pencil that will mix with graphite. Go over the darker spots with a harder pencil to get rid of the white specs of paper showing. Also rework those facial features. The eyes look wider, eyebrows don't really match either, the angle of the tip and wings of the nose is wrong, bottom lip is skewed.

[Anonymous No.2416978]

>>2414249
>>2414310
thanks!

[Anonymous No.2417094]

Looking for c&c on color and rendering. I'm not worried about anatomy so much here.
Of course I'd forget to attach the image.

[Anonymous No.2417215]

[Anonymous No.2417219]

hands

[Anonymous No.2417222]

>>2417219
start doing dick studies

[Anonymous No.2417333]

>>2417222
he would need to draw a lot of them to fill the page.

[Anonymous No.2417353]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2417375]

>>2417219
why do u only draw hands m8 srs question

[Anonymous No.2417381]

>>2417333

[Anonymous No.2417385]

>>2417222
He already did
>>2416833

[Anonymous No.2417389]

>>2417385
>>2417333

[Anonymous No.2417393]

>>2417375
this. You always get asked this but never reply. I'm really curious.

[Anonymous No.2417405]

>>2416653
>>2416806
Thanks, most of them are just copies from the book tough. Still need to practice a lot from real ref. and imagination.

>>2416655
Will look that up sir.

>>2416806
Michael Hamptons figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.2417437]

Study after a plein air painting by Alexandre Reider

[Anonymous No.2417555]

>>2417385
lel

[Anonymous No.2417557]

>>2417375
>>2417393
because it's good life drawing practice. i cant afford models, none of the things i have for still lifes are that complicated so thats boring.

despite what /ic/ thinks you don't need to draw a face to learn to draw faces, you don't need to draw trees to learn to draw trees, you don't need to draw x to learn to draw x, you just need to draw from life a lot so you are prepared to draw anything that is in front of you, regardless of what it is. don't get caught up in subject matter just draw from life a lot.

[kjkallio !OTcb98yDKo No.2417572]

spookies for a thing of mine

[Anonymous No.2417575]

>>2416631
ty anon <3

[Anonymous No.2417597]

>>2417572
Nice undertale clone faggot

[Alaya No.2417599]

>>2416607
solid work

[kjkallio !OTcb98yDKo No.2417610]

>>2417597
mmhm, not that ive been drawing skellies like this way before undertale was even being thought of.

[Anonymous No.2417675]

>>2416859
Have you been outside? Grass blades are VERY reflective. They can go up to pure white on a sunny summer day, when planes are facing the sun. Theres also light shining through the grass to consider.
Your example is a filtered photo during twilight hour or overcast day

[Anonymous No.2417682]

>>2416398
She looks ugly
Are you a lesbo?

[Anonymous No.2417685]

>>2416366
Pls, learn difference between criticism and shitposting

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.2417751]

>>2415527

[Anonymous No.2417762]

>>2417751
>firez trying to do a paint over
>just over saturates shit instead of addressing the underlying problems with a lack of understanding of how light hits the form and the color dynamics
>laughingsaladgirl.jpg

alright jannie license plate master im being a cunt but really easy on it dont lead newbies astray

[Anonymous No.2417784]

>>2417762
Ha.

You will never make it.

[Anonymous No.2417785]

>>2417784
Put your trip back on, firez.

[Anonymous No.2417792]

>>2417762
In no way am I defending firez because I hate him but it's not a paintover, it's his own painting that's a study of someone else's painting. The truly incredibly thing is how he managed to make something that should look lively look as lifeless as his usual work.

[Anonymous No.2417793]

Study of a tree, working on simplifying forms

[Anonymous No.2417800]

>>2417762
why u so mad my nigga ?

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2417806]

>>2417793
blog. this is great.

[Anonymous No.2417807]

>>2417806
fuck off, bro.

[Anonymous No.2417811]

>>2417806

Thanks, afraid not

[Anonymous No.2417812]

>>2417792
oh shit your right. for awhile he listened to people shitting on him for tripping OP drawthreads but it looks like he's at it still. I'm a lil drunk but still I think my crit of his progress stands alright

[Anonymous No.2417826]

Related

[Anonymous No.2417833]

Can I get some critiques of this sketch so I don't end up making a crappy full pic?

[Anonymous No.2417840]

>>2417826

This is what some anons actually believe, you are still the equivalent of a sjw who gets triggered by really stupid shit.

"Oh that guy uses a trip, better get riled up and have an excuse to shit up further this board"

[Anonymous No.2417844]

>>2417826
Tripfags are better than anons. Anons only exist for the Tripfag's benefit.

[Anonymous No.2417850]

>>2417840
it's a pretty slow board, so trips aren't really that big of a deal. The problem was always that a lot of people block or want to block firez but he's always tripping the OP of drawthreads. It's to stop people blocking him because drawthreads are a pretty big part of the board, and it also boosts his ego. And rumor has it he's a janitor, so it's not like it will ever be dealt with because this board is dead as shit

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2417851]

>>2417826
knowing who youre talking to is also worth something as well as knowing the person would stake their name behind a statement.

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2417852]

>>2417850
does it matter what he is irl? You were privileged by not being born in a shithole. If you hate tripfags, then identifying them personally is anti-philosophy.

[Anonymous No.2417857]

>>2417850
Have any proof of that?

You keep saying the same shit and I don't see it.

Instead it seems people here have positive or neutral impressions about the guy. I would say only you and perhaps other troll hate him

[Anonymous No.2417862]

>>2417852
again my argument has only been against him tripping the OP of drawthreads and I've been bitching about it since he started doing it, so I know it's fruitless. The one guy that made all the drawthreads and tripped awhile ago that only had one letter like H or something for his name did it and everything was fine, but he wasn't such a attention whore.

>>2417857
whatever dude, I've always been in the midground of the argument. I know he gets off to these comments so I try not to make them so much but when it comes up I put in my 2c

[Anonymous No.2417875]

>>2417862
Acknowledging firez' bullshit has never changed his behavior. Just be glad you're not him. Getting asspats from people worse than you does nothing but cause stagnation.

[Anonymous No.2417884]

>>2417353
get a better camera and learn how to take photos from the correct angle

[Anonymous No.2417957]

[Anonymous No.2417965]

opinion on this, trying to improve coloring :O

[Anonymous No.2417970]

i did a painting

[Anonymous No.2417973]

>>2415785
really nice color palettes

[Anonymous No.2417979]

>>2417970
is this catt

[Anonymous No.2417983]

>>2416247
First attempt at color? God damn.

[Anonymous No.2417987]

>>2417219
REALLY good hands

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2417989]

>>2417862
how is it that the same people who hate safe spaces in 4chan filter people out.

[Anonymous No.2417993]

>>2416351
I honestly love this. Good job man.

[Anonymous No.2417999]

>>2417987
>>2417993
Jesus you are so sad.

[Anonymous No.2418042]

I saw "The Revenant" and felt like using it to practice with my brand new Wacom tablet. Spent a little less than an hour on it. What say you?

[Anonymous No.2418051]

>>2417957
Sweet, can you share that brush?

[Anonymous No.2418075]

i want a one-over by fresh eyes before i post this shit up

[Anonymous No.2418107]

>>2417572
i like this

[Anonymous No.2418112]

fun diversion

[Anonymous No.2418116]

[Anonymous No.2418182]

>>2415623
Is the spark meme a new trolling method?

[Anonymous No.2418236]

How does this look so far?

[Anonymous No.2418275]

>>2417094

Colours seem a bit dull and edges look a bit too soft. Is it from imagination?

Or my eyes might not have adjusted from trying to push the saturation in my own painting I'm not sure.

[fuckingtripfag !VDpnjBYkP2 No.2418343]

[Anonymous No.2418378]

>>2418182
If you really can't tell, then you will never make it.

Ha.

[Anonymous No.2418381]

>>2418182
Sorry to say but you might not have the spark

[Anonymous No.2418394]

>>2417094
Don't be afraid to push the values more
Here's you image in grey scale with a random lion for comparison

[Anonymous No.2418455]

>>2418275
That's a tasty looking tart dude. Anyway yeah it's sort of from imagination. I went on google and just browsed pics of lions for a while then left the tab open to use for info but I didn't copy any particular picture. Doing direct studies I wasn't retaining anything about color because I wasn't thinking about what was there, just copying it. This way I force myself to consciously choose colors and understand why they need to be there. Gurney helps a ton. I was definitely playing it too safe with the saturation since oversaturating has been my biggest problem with color and I just wanted to check I hadn't done it again before I worked more on defining everything. You and some other anons all said the same thing so I trust it. Thanks anon.
>>2418394
Wow yeah that's way too light. I always forget to check it in grayscale. The hardest part for me is building up value without over saturating but I think I've come up with an idea for how to go about it here. Thanks dude.

[Anonymous No.2418473]

>>2417094
He looks bald.

[Anonymous No.2418483]

[Anonymous No.2418490]

>>2418473
Yeah especially looking at anon's comparison image I see he needs a lot more fuzziness. I was mostly just concerned about the color though I'm not going to get too invested in making some amazing rendering of a lion or else I would've just done a direct copy. I will add some more to the mane though since I'm gonna be painting there anyway.

[Anonymous No.2418494]

>>2416398
i like how you use darker values around the highlights to make them "pop" more, is there a term for that?

[Anonymous No.2418497]

>>2416676
oh, it's a filter, nvm :(

l

[Anonymous No.2418533]

>>2417989
Not that guy, but to avoid the useless drama that FiReZ and people like him spawns.

I don't mind tripfags that don't spawn a derail twice every thread, but I honestly think you should pack your ego aside, take off your trip and take one for the team if it gets brought up as often as it does here.

If FiReZ never tripped, we wouldn't even be having this discussion at all and everybody would be happier, it wouldn't even change anything, he could still post his art and get his buttpats and be the OP image. I used to be vocal about my dislike of Firez, but now I just try to ignore him even if I can't filter him since he's so stubborn about wearing trips in Draw General OPs.

[Anonymous No.2418556]

>>2418483
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.2418557]

hey guys, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.2418582]

>>2418557
oh god...

[Anonymous No.2418588]

anything to say?

[Anonymous No.2418595]

>>2418588
I like the content/idea but your ability to render form is bad. so go practice that. It looks like youve arbitrarily put lines on the hat and camera thing without considering the form or light source. Every line should have a purpose.

[Anonymous No.2418626]

>>2418595
thought the same about the hat, but considering is an amorphous being didnt payed attention. Gracias!

[Anonymous No.2418644]

>>2418557

I didn't know Irakli and Kr0n had a son together

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2418650]

>>2418275
neat!
>>2418075
upper legs small

[Nile !!xmt4xI2LMij No.2418652]

[Anonymous No.2418653]

What does Push your Values mean???

Isn't a noob mistake to make the lights too light and the darks too dark? Then why is that the solution to anything?

[Anonymous No.2418685]

>>2418653
It means that your range of values is too limited. It's hard to describe without a photo, but I'll try:

Imagine a greyscale from black to white. If black is 0, and white is 100, you may be utilizing only 40 through 60 - some greys in the middle.

Pushing your values means pushing the boundaries of your current values towards the two extremes. So instead of a range of values hovering around midtone greys (40 - 60), you PUSH them to include more blacks and more whites (maybe 10 - 90).

[Anonymous No.2418691]

>>2418653
It's a noob mistake to stray away from extreme darks and lights, never heard of it going the other way around. Look at the image you posted, it isn't afraid to go very close to black for the shadows and it goes very close to white for the dog's head. Push your values usually means that all of your values are midtones so nothing really pops or reads particularly well.

If you look at >>2418394 the darkest value is around the eye, and it's only a 60% grey, whereas the lightest values on the face are a 20% grey. On the lion photo below it, the darkest areas like the nose, eyes, and mane are all 100% black, and the background value is 10% grey. The values on the actual lion only reach about 20% grey at the lightest, but it still has a decent value range of ~80 as opposed to the top illustration where it's between 20% and 60%.

[Anonymous No.2418695]

>>2418691
>>2418685
What about middle/low/high key?
How do you differentiate between those and a case where values should be pushed?

[Anonymous No.2418710]

Help I can't into charcoal

[Anonymous No.2418711]

>>2418653
>Isn't a noob mistake to make the lights too light and the darks too dark?

The problem is more when you make all your lights too light and all your darks too dark.

If you have really high contrast everywhere it's exhausting to look at and looks bad, it doesn't lead the eye anywhere. You want to reserve high contrast for places you want people to look.

If everything is either a 1 or a 9 on your value scale you'll have nowhere to go if you want to make something really pop out, like say you have some dude with a shining sword but you already used a really bright value for his tunic, boots, the rocks under him, etc. Then his sword will just look as bright as his clothing / surroundings. If you tone done the values/contrasts on all those things and the sword is the only one that's really light it'll really stand out.

[Anonymous No.2418713]

>>2418695
Mmmm I'm not sure I understand the question.

Perhaps is has to do with differentiating local clusters of values, and pushing them to help define the forms and materials. If you need to push your blacks, then you don't necessarily need to push your ALL your darker values towards black, only some.

Take a look at the lion photo in >>2418394 again. The values of the lions furs are lighter than the values in the lions mane. Through different groups of values (darks, greys, whites), we can start to differentiate the different forms, materials and textures in what we are trying to draw.

[Anonymous No.2418720]

>>2418710
Practice value scales. Yor proportion is good, and you're using a full range, you're just not recreating values at the correct level. Some of your dark 10s should be 7s , 0s should be 3s, etc. regularly practicing scales should give you control over this.

[Anonymous No.2418721]

>>2418653
>Then why is that the solution to anything?
It is not. Who the hell said that? It really depends on the mood you're going for.

Hell I don't think is a good idea to have extreme light and extreme dark in the same painting.

[Anonymous No.2418727]

>>2418721
The values on these may not be extreme but I think there's two reasons they're successful. For one there is still a large enough range between the lightest light and darkest dark value, and secondly there are much clearer divisions between the values. There's a very defined light, mid, and dark grouping and all of them have a fairly hard edge to them. When 0% sits next to 40% and that sits right next to 75% I think it tends to make each of them look brighter and darker by comparison. I'm not those anons, I'm the one working on the picture of the lion actually. I'm glad you posted these because I'm pretty sure that principle is what makes them work and that's exactly the kind of thing I need to be paying attention to but I had totally forgotten about it. I really need to do more analysis like this.

[Anonymous No.2418745]

>>2418557
Needs more chromatic aberration

[Anonymous No.2418757]

>>2418720
how do I do that with charcoal? Any techniques for laying down values properly? Class wants us to only use charcoal and I mainly use pen.

[Anonymous No.2418763]

>>2418745
you made it 10x better, thanks


Hey do you guys think I could fool normies on facebook with it? All I did was add a bunch of filters, a few brush strokes and the liquify tool, Is it convincing enough? I want to make mad cash off my 10 minute photo edits

[Anonymous No.2418767]

>>2418763
it was obvious to me at least but i think it would fool normies.

[Anonymous No.2418770]

>>2418763
Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.2418851]

i never know what to do with the bg
i feel there is something off also

[Anonymous No.2418870]

>>2418763
Do it just, gather followers who will defend your art is legit, compare yourself to hacks who do the same thing by saying "look, I do realistic paintings just like this guy and they also attack him. there will always be haters", and then one day come out of the closet and show these people how they are easily fooled.

>>2418851
file name is misleading. where is qtπ

[Anonymous No.2418907]

Had some trouble with the hands and feet here.

[Anonymous No.2418919]

first ever try using digital applications, advice appreciated

[Anonymous No.2418969]

Spent way too long on this- my ethos was not to use line art as a crutch to convey form and use values instead.

Where did I go wrong?

Where the fuck did I go right?

[Anonymous No.2418974]

>>2417965
the nipples just look weird. everything else is, generally, nicely colored but they're just flat circles of color which nipples AREN'T so, i'd say find a balance where they aren't super detailed/realistic (because obviously it wouldn't fit with your drawing) but they're a little better. just the solid block color looks weird. i like everything else mostly

[Anonymous No.2418978]

Is there any good tutorials how to digital paint correctly?
It always end up messy. I must learn how to paint ( or brush ) clearly; prior to color theory or anything deeper.

[Anonymous No.2418980]

>>2418978
try ctrlpaint. it's pretty good.

[Super Smash Bros. Melee for th(...) No.2418981]

learning to render clouds; help?

[Anonymous No.2419014]

>>2418978
who's the artist for this?

[Anonymous No.2419023]

doing an oil painting of ciri because i wanted to hang it on my wall, third oil painting ever, any tips?

[Anonymous No.2419024]

>>2418980
It's dealing with pretty much anything that i can think of. nice.

>>2419014
well it's mine. one of my daily ( i hope ) practice.

[SquishierGnat No.2419028]

>>2417983
Ikr familia

Probably bullshit

[SquishierGnat No.2419030]

>>2416247
>""""""First attempt""""""""<

[SquishierGnat No.2419035]

>>2417557
Draw a face

[Super Smash Bros. Melee for th(...) No.2419042]

>>2419035
dude posts his damn self portraits all the time

[Nose Jester ¢π No.2419044]

>>2418969
are you like photo-bashing or something? wtf happenned that you have decent prportions but still blurr so hard?

>>2418919
beg thread

>>2418652
starting to recognize your studies!

[SquishierGnat No.2419050]

>>2415617
>>2416247
First attempt at sculpture.

Thoughts?

[Super Smash Bros. Melee for th(...) No.2419060]

>>2419050
first attempt at namefagging. thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2419066]

>>2419024
blog!

[Anonymous No.2419104]

>>2419044
No photo-bashing dude; i'm only just getting into value and colour. I'm trying to get out my comfort zone, this was the line work I did for the piece which to me looks a lot more 'polished' than the final thing does. What can I do to make sure it doesn't end up looking so blurry?

[Anonymous No.2419129]

>>2419035
see >>2416351

[Anonymous No.2419140]

C&C welcome.

[Anonymous No.2419270]

cc? How do you price a work for sale? flower things arent finished yet.

[Anonymous No.2419377]

>>2419023
put her tits in it next time

[Anonymous No.2419457]

Still working on color, did a study this time. Even doing studies I've had tons of issues matching color and temperature and everything in the past but this time I felt more informed and choosing colors seemed much easier. I think I'm starting to understand it.

[Anonymous No.2419463]

>>2419457
that shnoz tho

[Anonymous No.2419480]

>>2418763
the hair is the only thing that really gives it away
need to add some stylistic brush strokes there

[Anonymous No.2419485]

>>2419463
I kept making it smaller but it didn't look right. I was reworking that part but photoshop crashed on me so I couldn't. Doesn't matter though, it's mainly about the color and rendering. It's probably for the best I couldn't get wrapped up in trying to make it a more accurate portrait.

[Anonymous No.2419510]

>>2419457
looks very nice so far

[fuckingtripfag !VDpnjBYkP2 No.2419522]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2419524]

>>2419522
cooooool

[Anonymous No.2419533]

>>2419510
Thanks anon, I'm really happy with it too. I'm not sure how much I learned from it yet but it was the first time I didn't feel totally lost using colors and I think that's a good sign at least.

[Anonymous No.2419534]

>>2416362
Put it in the MOMA

[Anonymous No.2419536]

>>2416193
Looks like Ethan Cline with an elongated alien head

[Anonymous No.2419546]

>>2419522
This would make a great bookmark. Nice piece dude.

[Anonymous No.2419549]

>>2418051
It's the default oil brush from ArtRage senpai

[Anonymous No.2419558]

>>2419270
Is she under water? If so, add ripples.

[Anonymous No.2419562]

hands

[Anonymous No.2419567]

acrylic study contd. from >>2410820

[Anonymous No.2419790]

working on falues and face structure, getting used to painting black and white after only doing line drawings most of the time

[Anonymous No.2419808]

how can I make this really pop?

[Anonymous No.2419821]

"Tell me what you think of my friend's speedpaint, please! She is a very talented girl, very detailing and very dedicated to her works."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDsYqW4Exyo

[Anonymous No.2419829]

[fuckingtripfag !VDpnjBYkP2 No.2419836]

>>2419821
its not good F.A.M

[Anonymous No.2419840]

>>2417970

wow, you're getting worse again

[Anonymous No.2419843]

[Anonymous No.2419897]

>>2418978
설마 한국분?

[Anonymous No.2419912]

>>2419843
looks good. I like it.

Feels are spot on.

[Anonymous No.2419968]

>>2419897
네 한국인 맞습니다.

[PS No.2420084]

[Anonymous No.2420097]

>>2415527
A car concept that I've been working on just for fun

[Anonymous No.2420118]

>>2419533
Are you picking the colors yourself or using an eyedropper. How are you training to pick colors?

[Anonymous No.2420119]

May I get an honest critique plz?

[Anonymous No.2420128]

[Anonymous No.2420162]

I'm having trouble figuring out what to do with the facemask.

So far I've put a lot into designing the armor in the likeness of a ww2 aircraft and the mask was originally supposed to resemble a sliding glass cockpit but I'm iffy on the characters face being visible.

[Anonymous No.2420227]

[Anonymous No.2420235]

>>2420118
I'm choosing colors myself and that basically is the training. I've been just reading a lot of color theory stuff like Gurney and other tutorials I found here, looking at light and shadow and how it affects color as I walk around town and taking photos of important relating colors that I want to remember, and looking at how other artists use color to try and understand some of the logic behind it. Then I've been trying to apply the "rules" to my color choices. Like for example yellow and blue are opposites (in a simplified way) so I know if the brightest part of her face is yellowish, that bounce light on her temple should be bluish. A lot of it was messing with the HSB slider too. Like the greenish tint of the hair in shadow. I went into green at first but it wasn't right, so I slid around and found the matching color in a dark desaturated orange instead. I've been experimenting a lot with that so now I'm remembering where I can find colors I need with less hunting.

[Anonymous No.2420242]

>>2419840
from when? yesterday?

[Anonymous No.2420261]

Having issues with weight, perspective, and making them all look like they are part of the same scene.

[Anonymous No.2420280]

20 min sketch

[Nose Buddy ¢π No.2420333]

>>2419808
i hope this is bait. if not, beg thread.
>>2419567
neat!

[Anonymous No.2420362]

>>2420261
Maybe you could try overlapping them more, put one behind the couch for example.

[Anonymous No.2420428]

>>2415527
female pteranodon on a cliff looking at a sun pillar
any critiques?

[Anonymous No.2420449]

>>2420280
I can't see what it is, but i love that lighting

[Anonymous No.2420456]

>>2420428

Compare it to this similar one and try to decipher why it works better.

[Anonymous No.2420463]

>>2420456
Dark against light?
I did keep that in mind for the rim light but it may not be enough?

[Anonymous No.2420474]

>>2420463

saturation levels, rendering, composition, check, em

[Anonymous No.2420476]

>>2420463
Not him but there's an overall lack of drafting skill and informed decisions regarding proportions and scale and somewhat on composition. I think the color is pretty good actually, but the drawing underneath is just too far short of creating the image successfully.

[Anonymous No.2420482]

wip study.

[Anonymous No.2420629]

*burp*

[Anonymous No.2420681]

>>2418978
today's another one.

i believe there's a magical snap waiting for me. being able to reconstruct the dimensional absoluteness of objects. My ultimate goal.
over the years, all i could see was a tiny portion of it. that caused many depressed times. Nowadays, I can kinda tell how difficult and overwhelming to achieve such skill. But I'm rather comfortable, because I finally know when is to be satisfied. I still believe it is achievable, not impossible.

[Anonymous No.2420697]

>>2420681
okay... but you should really shade every drawing or else you'll never get better. nobody is going to pay you for outlines.

[Anonymous No.2420708]

>>2420681
what the flying fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.2420715]

>>2420697
What are comics

[Anonymous No.2420719]

>>2420697
You are an idiot and most likely can't draw half as good as the guy you're replying to

He doesn't get that good without knowing how to do form i.e. shading

[Anonymous No.2420732]

>>2420719
ok
>>2420629
>>2419562
>>2417970
>>2417219
>>2416351
ive made 5 things since this thread started hes made 2 unfinished unshaded outlines of sameface characters. take my advice or don't i don't give a shit being better doesn't make you money having connections does. im not teaching him how to have a career, im teaching him how to fucking draw.

practice 1 thing half-assed, or practice everything at once well. its up to you. the "muh style concept art" brigade has been out in force on /ic/ recently.

[Anonymous No.2420740]

>>2420697
nah. My focus is not about that.
of course It will be terrific to know how to shade well, but I'm more weighed to line art. such as this artwork. it's not realistic and shade is simplified, but such forms comes from lines and flat colors ( or monochrome ) are so obsessing to me.

I consider handful of people ( such as kim jung gi ) has ability to draw something realistic even if it's not realistic art style. because they are so good at lines and forms, realism emerges from their very comical line work. that's shit I want.

>>2420708
I tend to overcomplicate when i try to use English. so this is my best effort to simplify this.
> I draw something with minimal colors and lines.
> people think it's photoshoped, or traced. because it's so fucking accurate to be drawn by hand.
> because i completely understand everything, I can draw anything as i command. of course from imagination.
It really sounds like kim jung gi, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.2420743]

>>2420740
then you are lazy and have bad taste. work on that.

[Anonymous No.2420745]

>>2420740
I forgot to upload picture. yay!

[Anonymous No.2420780]

working on an illustration contrasting the discipline of illustration from fine arts

[Anonymous No.2420783]

>>2420732
>>2420743
Brian, shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.2420799]

>>2420783
never *puts fist through sketchbook*

[Anonymous No.2420819]

>>2420743
well ok, but I really need to know the reason why?
I know not everyone's gonna just applause for my donut steel art. there's nothing to be called 'art' for my sketches either.
but for my lifetime i've never heard my taste is not enough. ( well except when i was in middle school, i loved Jamie Hewlett )
and most importantly, what do you mean by 'work on' ?

[Anonymous No.2420832]

>>2420819
Please for everything that is holy, just ignore him. He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about and he lives to shit on people who are better than him. Nothing good will come from talking to him, nothing.

[Anonymous No.2420847]

>>2420819
taste isn't subjective if that was the case nobody would ever get famous because everything would be random.

kim jung gi doesn't even have a wikipedia page. its okay to enjoy his work but leave it at that. enjoy it. don't emulate it. emulate the artists that everyone else agrees are the greatest artists. study picasso, van gogh, cezanne, basquiat, warhol, da vinci guys like that. thats not so wild an idea.

/ic/ tends to agree on the artists that are the most agreeable. There's nothing remarkable about the careers of sargent, kim jung gi, ruan jia, craig mullins or any of those guys. There is absolutely NO reason you should be studying anything other than the most famous artists of all time. Like undeniably famous. Don't try to be a special snowflake.

[Anonymous No.2420850]

>>2420832
so "Brain, shut the fuck up" comment up there was meaning by that?
I'm not good at English, man i'm such a fool for this difficult conversations.
Not gonna drag this any longer than, it ends here. sorry everyone.

[Anonymous No.2420858]

>>2420732
>2 unfinished unshaded outlines
Have you ever even heard of "sketching"

It's the thing you do to practice drawing.
You should do more of it.

[Anonymous No.2420876]

>>2420850
It's okay anon. If you haven't seen it he does this a lot. He's trying to look important so he only tries to 'teach' people way better than him. Any time someone uses 'you have bad taste' and doesn't have anything more concrete than that to back up their claims you should ignore them anyway. And whenever you see it's him definitely ignore it.
To answer your question by the way, ctrlpaint.com and Sycra are good resources to learn digital painting.

[Anonymous No.2420902]

Painted this today. Started off as just a doodle to practice some light sources and i went a little far with it.

[Anonymous No.2420914]

>>2420902
would be nice to have some 'really close' objects. one or two. maybe putting red guardrail closer.
It shows blurry things are far away from me. I can see that. but everything else is not enough to relatively feel the overall depth.

[Anonymous No.2420923]

>>2419522
I like the colours in all of your work. Your lines as well. Good job.

[Anonymous No.2420940]

>>2420914
good idea dude. I was considering putting a teacup and some other knickknacks on the guardrail for that exact reason but got kind of lazy towards the end.

[Nose Buddy ¢π No.2420942]

>>2420902
quite nice.

[Anonymous No.2421003]

oh thats your wifey wifey wifey wifey? i think i like her like her like her like her

[Anonymous No.2421063]

[Anonymous No.2421066]

>>2421003

pretty cool as always. Is that graphite over rough paper?

[Anonymous No.2421071]

>>2421066
its strathmore sketch paper. its cheap and u get a lot of it. not particularly rough

[Anonymous No.2421072]

life drawing

[Anonymous No.2421074]

>>2421071

K thanks. Trying to find the medium that suits me the best. Bought some charcoal pencil because of proko but i suck with them, gonna stick with graphite for now

[Anonymous No.2421081]

>>2421063
are you upset?

[Anonymous No.2421101]

>>2415527
I tried to draw a pretty attractive girl from real life from my memory.

[Anonymous No.2421168]

>>2418483
Nice Obi-Wan

[Anonymous No.2421277]

>>2415527
Somebody make a new draw thread please.

[Anonymous No.2421324]

>>2421277
1-2-3 not it

[Anonymous No.2421366]

>>2420428
>>2420456

slight difference in skill

>huahuahua

[Anonymous No.2421368]

>>2421366
What? It doesn't say that...

[Anonymous No.2422818]

>>2420456
This is awesome, dude.

[Anonymous No.2422963]

>>2417833

yeah, it fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.2422970]

>>2417965

color is fine, if something you could try to play a little more with gray tones as source of light/shadow, not sure about that shadow in the trapezius

eyes are a little too close, hands seems off but not half bad

[Anonymous No.2423969]

Just doodled this...