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Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:33:12 2015 No.2325240 [DELETED]

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https://www.patreon.com/sakimichan?ty=h

Sakimichan makes 665k a year through patreon alone. Is her art really that good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:43:02 2015 No.2325249 Well she's better than me so I can't say much

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:52:49 2015 No.2325268
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I guess you missed the last thousand threads we had on exactly this topic this year.

Let's just get a few of the basics out of the way:

>She makes too much money.
>I wish I made that much money.
>She's a sellout.
>She's a good businesswoman.
/>ic/ is just jealous.
>No /ic/ just has standards.
>her anatomy sucks! Look at this example!
>she's better than 99% of /ic/!
>art is dead
>should I make a patreon?
>she just draws the same thing over and over
>Why hasn't Disney sued her yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:56:33 2015 No.2325273 >>2325268 you forgot: >she ugly >she's a qt 3.14 >i actually fucked her 5 years ago for real

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:57:31 2015 No.2325274 >>2325240 yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:58:18 2015 No.2325277 The quality of her art isn't the reason she's successful. No shade though, If I could make that money doing nothing but fan art I would.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:03:29 2015 No.2325279 WHAT DOES SHE NEED 665K FOR?! WHAT DOES AN ARTISTS EVEN DO WITH ALL THAT MONEY?!

>>	testname Wed Dec 23 22:09:48 2015 No.2325282 >>2325279 shell finally be able to buy a small wacom cintiq.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:09:56 2015 No.2325283 >>2325279 food, clothes, bills, art utensils etc. She's a good artists and produces art that people

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:11:53 2015 No.2325291 >>2325283 people want to see and are willing to pay for. Also the fan-art genre doesn't have a great plethora of high quality talent and in that field she is one of the best.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:14:54 2015 No.2325295 >>2325283 >food, clothes, bills Nigga you can pay all that and more with just 15% of what she's making. >art utensils She's strictly digital.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:16:19 2015 No.2325300 She's improving. I wonder if she'll do fanart forever and nothing else.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:17:10 2015 No.2325301

>>2325279

Nobody really -needs- more than like 30-40k. It doesn't matter if someone needs or deserves their income, only that they have the means to produce it. Sakimichan's income harms nobody, it's not like she's siphoning it from your taxes or something.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:21:57 2015 No.2325306

>>2325240
Yes.
There is no "really that good" in art. Just a "good enough".
Once you're good enough, it's all about networking, creativity, style and approachability.

/ic/ refuses to aknowledge this because even if they were technically better than her they lack everything else. And this brings down the whole house of cards around here.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:25:11 2015 No.2325308

>>2325295
>>2325295
>Nigga you can pay all that and more with just 15% of what she's making.
Yeah and you can get more and better quality with the more money you make

>She's strictly digital.
software and hardware?

Even if she doesn't need the money, why not have it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:34:56 2015 No.2325313 >>2325300 What other art can get her the same amount of money? I could maybe see her doing comic books depending on her ability to her work to a tight schedule.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:36:12 2015 No.2325315 >>2325268 This. Why the fuck hasn't the thread been pruned yet?

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:38:32 2015 No.2325316

>>2325313
I wasn't thinking money, but more so passion. I don't know about you, but I find working on projects way more fun than shitting out random illustrations. Which is why I had the thought. With the amount of money she's raking in, she could easily fund and setup some projects if she had the desire for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:40:34 2015 No.2325319 >>2325240 blog?

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:41:32 2015 No.2325320

>>2325268

IMO She's not that good and she does the same thing pretty much 99% of the time. Plus, she only does fanart.

That being said, she's making enough money that she doesn't give a shit and why fix what's not broken? I'm jealous of hr but if I were in her position I'd probably do the same, like 95% of everyone here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:51:23 2015 No.2325332 >>2325268 wait, why isn't she being sued?

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:54:33 2015 No.2325337

>>2325316
yeah but money can corrupt, she's got a nice gig going for her why risk it? I imagine whatever she does will probably have to fit around her Patreon commitments at first until either she finds herself enjoying it more and getting more money from it or she might move away from patreon set up her own website/art community sort of thing. She has the fanbase for it

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:59:12 2015 No.2325342
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Random lurker here that keeps seeing this popping up all the time. It has very little to do with her actual "art", and more so just the type of popular content her audience latches onto.
It's all about the money. Her lust for money really is a no-brainer:
- Look at her target audience.
- Look at how stupid most of them probably are with money.
- Look how how little they value money, to the point where they'll simply spend it on something popular if its part of a bandwagon.
- The artist sold out for money, and will probably never improve past this point (or actually be creative outside of copying things from popular culture) now that they've seen there is a demand for shit art.

Conclusions:
- The consumer sold out for short-term happiness via the consumption of parasitically regurgitated, popular content.
- The popular content is already self-marketed, so you don't even have to be a good business person to latch onto it, just a good parasite.

Both are equally shitty. This is the nature of shitty art that makes money. It's backed by equally shitty consumers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 23:05:56 2015 No.2325344 >>2325342 see >>2325332

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 23:10:25 2015 No.2325350

>>2325337
She wouldn't have to put her patreon on hold to work on projects. She would just have to divide her time up neatly. Plenty of people have both a job and do side projects. It's not one or the other.

Why risk it you ask? I'd risk anything if I was bored enough. The better question is, will she get bored? How long can someone draw the same thing before they get tired of it? If she doesn't get tired of it, I guess it was her passion all along.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:33:45 2015 No.2325427 as much as I dislike the generic look she goes with, I can't help but admire how she manages her social media presence. I mean it's a full time job, but still. It's impressive. Just look at all those rewards. How do you even keep track of all that?

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:49:16 2015 No.2325447

Here ill teach ic
>why does she make do much?
She must of been ONE OF THE FIRST pretty competent artists to jump into it. Also she's an average azn grill so she has that going her way.
>does she really need that much
He'll no, but she gets it anyway. Boohoo, go draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:54:46 2015 No.2325455 File: 38 KB, 187x233, Are_You_Serious.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just tell me what i have to do to make 1/3rd of the cash she makes. Don't troll me please.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:57:12 2015 No.2325457 >>2325455 If we knew how, don't you think we l be out there making that money? I kill for a 1/10 of what she made.

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:02:22 2015 No.2325464

>>2325455
You need two of the following
>Be as good as her
>Draw fan-art of currently popular IPs
>Network as much as her
>Be as pretty as she is
>Be as fast as she is
>Be one of the first on a new platform

Note that she's not the best or even close to the best in any category but she's high in all so that's why she makes all that money.

Also
>Don't waste your time trying to refute any of this
Luck is all that matters to success, you can ask any loser.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:03:25 2015 No.2325466 >>2325457 You know how, but you're not willing to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 07:54:43 2015 No.2325627 honest question if sakimi came to /ic how would ya'll react? what if a fellow d/ic/k made it big the same way?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 08:12:08 2015 No.2325633 File: 1.24 MB, 250x250, 1418005771179.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2325240 This is my goal. Be meh artist and make porn and fanart on patreon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 08:12:55 2015 No.2325634 >>2325240 >Sakimichan makes 665k a year through patreon alone. Is her art really that good? Her patreon must think so. Why don't you ask him?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 08:43:26 2015 No.2325651 >>2325464 You just listed a bunch of stuff that you think mattered in her success and then you end your post with "luck is all that matters". Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 10:37:22 2015 No.2325746 >>2325633 you will not succeed in your treachery!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 10:54:28 2015 No.2325756 >>2325464 I think you mean at least four. These seem to be general rules for being successful. I'm willing to shill for fanart and use my looks, but I'm not gud and I'm not fast.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 11:59:22 2015 No.2325818 >>2325756 Looks are completely irrelevant, Sakimichan was already immensely popular before there was any photo of her floating around on the internet and I still have no idea how Kronprinz or most other successful fanartist even look like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 12:04:22 2015 No.2325820 >>2325268 >>2325273 /thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 12:21:04 2015 No.2325833 >>2325273 Aww shit. Greentext.

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