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Beginner Thread None !NANNANNANA Fri Dec 18 19:31:24 2015 No.2320096 [Reply] [Original]

Beginner Thread

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.

Do not forget to resize and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.

→ → → → Before asking "what should I read/view/study/learn," consult the sticky: >>1579290 → → →

Questions go in the QUESTION THREAD
This is for posting studys & getting critique.

>Thread study: Lets try an enviroment this time. The key is to capture the depth of the landscape.

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - there are many studies left unreplied, which is bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Old thread: >>2316119

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 19:34:56 2015 No.2320100 File: 67 KB, 786x610, z1017c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 19:39:32 2015 No.2320105 Loomis vs Right side of the brain?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 19:41:12 2015 No.2320109 >>2320105 >Loomis vs Right side of the brain THE MOVIE

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 19:44:30 2015 No.2320114 >>2320105 DotRSotB is the best beginner's book. It's useless after like the first chapter though. Loomis is god once you do a couple hundred pages worth of the manual dexterity exercises from the Peter Han videos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 19:47:34 2015 No.2320120 >>2320105 Kyes and Vilppu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:00:28 2015 No.2320129 >>2320105 Right side of brain, loomis is a bit too advanced. learning to see is very important when trying to draw from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:01:59 2015 No.2320130 >>2320120 This. Fuck Loomis and fuck Right side.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:06:56 2015 No.2320136 >>2320130 should i ditched betty edwards for keys? im halfway through it .

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:08:34 2015 No.2320137
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How do I get better at drawing what I see? How do I improve my observational skills? Kinda frustrated that every time I draw something, being from photos or life, it comes out not as accurate as what I/m looking at.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:11:25 2015 No.2320141 >>2320137 try picking non edgy subject for a start

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:13:52 2015 No.2320144
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>>2320096
Quick question

Do people really draw without construction by imagining the construction in their head? I’ve been doing a bit of it, but it feels a little inefficient. Should I just practice this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:15:03 2015 No.2320148 >>2320141 Wow, way to give an honest answear, Ignore the subject matter for a minute and actually try to contribute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:17:32 2015 No.2320152 >>2320144 Personally I always start with construction, no matter how crappy I maybe, simply becasue I find it much easier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:20:31 2015 No.2320155 >>2320144 no, only KJG does that but hes just lucky that he has the good kind of autism that gives you superpowers

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:22:49 2015 No.2320158 File: 349 KB, 1280x1024, practice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you start head or body with sketches I feel staring with the head fuck smy bodies and vice versa.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:30:24 2015 No.2320165 >>2320158 i always fuck up porotions when i start with the head. i start at the hips usuallly

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:43:59 2015 No.2320186 >>2320136 Yes, if you want to draw things if you wanna read about drawing then no.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:44:34 2015 No.2320187 More like Be Nigger thread tbqh

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:47:58 2015 No.2320192 >>2320155 Are you trying to tell me that I have been training myself to be autistic? Well... Ok... I think I will focus more on constructions and less in visualizing them. Only visualizing them at times

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:03:05 2015 No.2320198 >>2320105 It's not really a fight at all, RSOTB or Keys (observational shape-focused drawing) should come before form and construction

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:06:55 2015 No.2320205 >>2320114 Where do I get access to Peter Han videos?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:19:35 2015 No.2320214 >>2320198 What did you just say? "Keys (observational shape-focused drawing) should come before form and construction." I'm new.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:23:47 2015 No.2320218 >>2320205 Upping this, would highly appreciate if anyone could give a link

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:26:26 2015 No.2320219 File: 65 KB, 547x570, scratches.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do i break this scratchy line habit?

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:29:24 2015 No.2320220

>>2320105
How do I know when I should start Loomis? I've read RSOTB and Keys, though I havent done all the exercises. I find myself very tired of it, like I 'get' what its trying to tell me and it feels redundant. Is this just a lack of tenacity or a sign I should move on.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:33:37 2015 No.2320223

>>2320219
Practice drawing a line from one point to another. Draw 2 dots, hover over the motion between them and then lay down the line with a single confident line when you're feeling it.

Also the exercises in peter han's dynamic sketching videos can be useful if you do them some, don't overdo it though.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:50:00 2015 No.2320234
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Shit on me all you want, I have a long ass way to go.

I'd really like to smooth my lines out, because right now it's like I'm putting down a bunch of scratch and then erasing the bits I don't want.

Also, random question, doesn't having a bigger surface help? My little Wacom is tiny as shit and I feel like maybe that might be contributing to the shaky lines.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:54:22 2015 No.2320240
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>>2320223
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I feel like I'm getting better at finding the form of figures but it takes me a million strokes to actually get it right, and longer/tight angled ones are impossible to get on the first try for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:01:47 2015 No.2320245 >>2320240 Like the gesture. Interesting choice for the chance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:08:37 2015 No.2320248 >>2320245 >chance Sorry, meant to say Face.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:20:38 2015 No.2320256 File: 152 KB, 2557x1136, faces2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just some faces, this is an a'ight exercise, no..? Ima try all the angles what can be improved?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:25:56 2015 No.2320257 File: 48 KB, 916x611, ss+(2015-12-18+at+08.25.11).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Taking a break from anatomy to try and get into light, using tanks to practice faces and the form principle

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:33:08 2015 No.2320262 File: 137 KB, 1232x409, testhawk11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I know the proportions are off, but I was wondering If I was studying the hawk properly. Basically, is it simplified well? Or am I screwing up again? Trying to avoid details.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:56:04 2015 No.2320273 >>2320262 Imagine the hawk is made of boxes and spheres. 3D shapes. Draw the 3D shapes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:58:39 2015 No.2320276 >>2320219 chicken scratch is a bunch of tiny lines that obviously have no flow. You're drawing sketchy lines kinda like a guide, thats fine but draw fininshed lines on top of them

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:00:14 2015 No.2320279 >>2320256 lel, its a different person at every angle. your construction is fucking stupid too, especially for the eyes and nose bridge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:00:35 2015 No.2320281 >>2320262 You correctly recognized some of the shapes of the forms, but you can't describe those forms three-dimensionally on paper yet. Practice simple solids like cubes, cylinders etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:02:09 2015 No.2320283 File: 43 KB, 340x424, moretest10101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320273 >>2320281 How's this? >Practice simple solids like cubes, cylinders etc How do I practice those?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:07:01 2015 No.2320289 File: 170 KB, 727x1134, Sketch-006.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320283 >how do I practice draw more shapes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:08:59 2015 No.2320291 >>2320289 Oh, well okay. But wondering if the shapes used on the eagle are going in the right direction? I'll practice my shapes as well, but curious to know if I'm heading in the right way?

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:21:45 2015 No.2320302
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>>2320291
you can only see 3 sides of an object in 3d, like on the box you only see 3 sides

animals move in interesting ways so so it's kinda hard to figure out the ways they do these things, but try to find the sides that they are showing

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:25:59 2015 No.2320305 >>2320158 you can stop posting in the beginner thread bro. >>2320234 it wront matter because the lines youre trying to draw arent the right ones anyway. but barely would be the answer, zoom in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:29:29 2015 No.2320309 >>2320302 But all that is in the original image. Look at the red line behind the ink. It may be hard to see, but everything you pointed out is there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:37:56 2015 No.2320313 >>2320305 I'm the OP of the weebshit. Would you mind elaborating just a touch on "the wrong lines"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:46:39 2015 No.2320323 >>2320305 >you can stop posting in the beginner thread bro. Why

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 00:04:00 2015 No.2320341

>>2320309
You're knowledge is there but not your skills. Draw more stuff.
3 things to think about.
1.personally I think study and drawing should be separated. If you want to study birds draw it in a few different poses, at least 3.
2.Lines, since you're just starting try to get into the habit of doing clean line art. Don't be afraid to mess up cause you're learning
3.Do it for fun. even when studying think about what you like to draw. If it's naked ladies, draw a naked lady with a bird head, if it's stupid faces draw a bird with a stupid face.
Simply put it's taking what you studied and using it in your art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 00:06:10 2015 No.2320343 >>2320341 Never thought of it that way. Damn, that's some good fuckin' insight, anon you piece of shit. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 00:17:08 2015 No.2320351 File: 112 KB, 800x600, SuperRareSlenderFrogPepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Super Rare Slender Frog Pepe!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 00:29:00 2015 No.2320357 File: 210 KB, 579x747, tetest1212.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's another attempt of that bird. I'll continue to draw more shapes. Obviously there's a lot of wrong, nothing that a re-study can't fix.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 00:56:51 2015 No.2320380 File: 307 KB, 800x600, Slender Frog.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320351 Slightly improved

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 01:03:51 2015 No.2320387 File: 91 KB, 924x942, new oc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320323 because you're good enough to go into stylization thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 01:17:23 2015 No.2320396 >>2320387 Jeez, you're being too harsh on the guy. His art's not bad or anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 01:29:25 2015 No.2320401 File: 1.14 MB, 2767x3078, thebetterhead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tell me what should I improve on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 02:17:29 2015 No.2320420 >>2320401 learn to draw a simpler head form before trying to go more complex. it's incredibly broken, practice hundreds of loomis heads

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 02:38:51 2015 No.2320439 File: 1.32 MB, 1680x1050, 2015-12-19.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I know I'm doing something wrong, I just wish I knew what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 03:37:45 2015 No.2320472 >>2320401 you don't know what you're doing. Can you draw draw cubes, cones, cylinders in perspective? Extreme perspective? That head is a mess. I think you don't know where those planes are facing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 03:41:25 2015 No.2320473 >>2320396 wtf are you on i said hes too good to be here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 04:01:00 2015 No.2320478 >>2320439 nose is too big, top lip is a lot thinner, brow line should be flatter. also under the eyebrows are a lot darker. try to get the details in the eyes correct, they're a huge part of likeness, although you were probably getting to that

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 04:10:06 2015 No.2320483 >>2320473 Then why did you link that crappy giant animu eyeball monster picture in the post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 04:16:46 2015 No.2320488 >>2320357 Better. I mean it's still beyond wobbly, but it's more 3D than your previous attempts.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 06:10:33 2015 No.2320527 >>2320518 am i doing it right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 07:40:56 2015 No.2320567 >>2320218 not entirely sure whether this is the one, but it does look at line confidence and shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 09:11:31 2015 No.2320621 File: 191 KB, 535x392, Sketch-008.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] where can I find more lewd poses?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 09:37:38 2015 No.2320640 >>2320621 Some super pose books is full of weeb lewd poses. That can used for great reference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 09:44:20 2015 No.2320642 >>2320621 Porn. Seriously, there's so much of it on the internet that I almost guarantee you'll find one you want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 09:59:05 2015 No.2320647 >>2320257 perspective is off on the cannon, you're using very extreme perspective but the cannon is not following it, should be smaller

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 10:07:32 2015 No.2320651 >>2320357 very nice anon, keep going with this mindset, try to improve your linework with confident strokes, even if they go in the wrong place just try again

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 10:27:09 2015 No.2320660
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>>2320640
>>2320642
porn can be art and vise versa, I just need a bunch of poses all in one location so spend my time drawing instead of looking at porn. Cause the more you draw the better you get.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 12:59:29 2015 No.2320823
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I was trying to copy this one but it looks like shit.
/ic/ said that if i don't have talent, it's possible to learn by copying everything, they said that i would have to start with Anatomy for dummies, but i was trying to get disgaea style to make a draw from my imagination but i cannot, it's necesary to know human anatomy to draw animu?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:02:46 2015 No.2320828 >>2320472 >>2320420 okay will do; so I draw simpler heads and boxes, tubes. I read perspective made easy -

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:03:06 2015 No.2320829 >>2320823 anime is people, people have anatomy, all people

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:27:19 2015 No.2320866
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I just started Loomis yesterday with having fun with a pencil. I am terrible at drawing but I want to be able to do anime style monster girls so I need to start with the basics.

So far I find Fun With a Pencil pretty difficult and boring on top of that. I am going to grind it out but pic related is what I worked on today. It's bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:35:34 2015 No.2320880 >>2320823 looks like you need loomis. Draw from life, but using the fundamentals of construction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:46:42 2015 No.2320895 File: 3.96 MB, 5312x2988, 20151220_024138.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Started seriously last week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:49:28 2015 No.2320897 File: 58 KB, 639x960, 1448474894199.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320621 Quickposes, Sketchdaily Study time - pic related

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:28:31 2015 No.2320939 >>2320880 i just downloaded them, it needs an order or i can start from any book?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:34:53 2015 No.2320949 File: 539 KB, 900x900, shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320096 How do I landscape/color/etc.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:47:45 2015 No.2320958

>>2320895
Are you attempting to learn from Loomis' methods? If so your going about it wrong.
The head is broken down into two major forms; a sphere for the cranium (with the sides sliced off) and a sort of boxy trapezium prism for the jaw (which is hinged and movable)
What's more is that your guidelines seemed to be placed arbitrarily. The face can be equally separated into thirds where the top line represents the hairline, the middle the brow and bottom where the bottom of the nose connects to the head (not the tip of the nose, remember this!)
Loomis goes over all of this in greater details in his books. Get to studying.

>>	testname Sat Dec 19 14:48:37 2015 No.2320959 >>2320313 like for example youre drawing legs in a sausage format when clearly the weight distribution of the leg is going outwards, even if you had prestigious lines you would be able to do nothing out of it. Case in point vectors.

>>	testname Sat Dec 19 14:49:54 2015 No.2320962 >>2320483 im proud of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:08:55 2015 No.2320979 File: 473 KB, 735x1011, Dama 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hi! What do you think? I guess the face is a bit off. And the shading of the hands too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:10:39 2015 No.2320983 File: 1.11 MB, 735x1011, 1450555735942.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320979 I think this looks better.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:17:46 2015 No.2320999 >>2320988 Bro why don't you take a break to study some anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:18:31 2015 No.2321001 >>2320999 I'm practicing measuring right now I just drew animu for shits and giggles

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:20:36 2015 No.2321007 File: 71 KB, 620x787, a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this pose ok? how do i improve it? ps: ignore the face i know it's wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:39:12 2015 No.2321035 >>2321007 Pose is decent. right foot needs to be fixed. Left arm is too long. Lines are looking pretty confident, which is good. Study more anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:39:43 2015 No.2321036 Is there like a random lewd pics generator for the poses? I guarantee that if I went to look for them myself, I'd just keep looking till I found something easy. Like a porn site with a random pic button or smth... anyone know?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:41:46 2015 No.2321038 File: 173 KB, 671x555, ljfkdajs;lf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320988 last animu for today

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:42:36 2015 No.2321040 >>2321035 thanks, i will

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:51:05 2015 No.2321047 >>2320341 Different anon, but how do you go about "drawing"? I thought the study and drawing were one and the same?

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 16:02:42 2015 No.2321058
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>>2320823
This is might be of almost no help and is by no means exhaustive but I think you must start thinking harder about what you're actually trying to draw. Body type, different ratios etc. Try to observe a lot, what are distinctive features of this actual character? If you keep drawing a bunch you will get better obviously, but keep this in mind too

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 16:22:15 2015 No.2321084 File: 74 KB, 593x754, a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321035 how about now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 16:41:59 2015 No.2321104 File: 447 KB, 563x800, 1st.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My first page filled. Anyone have a link for DotRSotB ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 16:45:49 2015 No.2321106 File: 764 KB, 882x856, Urato.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] critique?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 16:50:31 2015 No.2321110 >>2321106 read the sticky

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 17:10:53 2015 No.2321127 >>2321106 Sticky.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 17:25:10 2015 No.2321140 >>2321106 ryu?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 17:28:49 2015 No.2321144 >>2321140 No, Akuma.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 17:31:44 2015 No.2321146 File: 178 KB, 604x800, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320897 Felt like doing a study of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 17:33:41 2015 No.2321148 File: 178 KB, 604x800, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320897 Felt like sketching this.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 17:38:18 2015 No.2321151

>>2320214
If I'm not mistaken Keys refers to Keys to drawing a book, and the latter part means that what is taught i either book should be learned before Loomis. Speaking from personal experience, I agree. Loomis methods and teaching were much easier to understand and absorb once I dipped into DotRSotB.

>>2320220
Same for me, in that I'm a bit tired of Right Side. Good books to refresh yourself on every once in a while, but try to occasionally draw from Loomis, simply. Work your way up. It's not something you should force upon yourself, else you'll never want to start it.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 17:44:53 2015 No.2321157
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>>2321084
Really focus your attention onto those feet. It's better, but it could still use some work. Pic related is an example of understanding "center of gravity". Take note of how each of the girl's feet are positioned. Look at the girl standing in the water, pulling the man's arm. Do you see how, if she didn't have her feet planted the way they are, and if she wasn't grabbing the man's arm, she would topple over. Her center of gravity is between her left arm, and the foot that is firmly planted onto the ground. Now, I want you to REALLY look at the feet you've drawn, the legs too. Do they look FIRMLY planted? On top of fixing the anatomy of the right foot (Because right now it's completely broken.) try to visualize her standing on the ground. Which leg is she putting the most weight onto? How would that effect her buttocks? Think about the muscles flexing as they're being forced to hold the weight of the entire body. If you decide to add more anatomical features, consider adjusting the position of the toes to conform to the surface that she is standing on. This isn't the MOST important thing for you to learn right now, but It's something that I think would help this drawing a lot. Again, keep studying anatomy. The back could use work, try researching "twisting forms".

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 18:29:14 2015 No.2321207 >>2320158 Tell me your brush settings family.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 18:31:09 2015 No.2321209
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>>2321084
I've never played undercancer so I don't know if the character is a 'killer' but play with rough narrative ideas of the type of stances she can take like I did here as example. Don't settle for one idea in short.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 18:31:47 2015 No.2321210 >>2320866 Looking at your drawings they seem very rigid and sharp, like you drew them very slowly and deliberately. Try and start sketching your construction in lightly and relax your arm and you might find you end up with nicer results.

>>	testname Sat Dec 19 18:33:14 2015 No.2321213 >>2321106 how exactly did you cheat your way into doing so well? >>2321110 >>2321127 both of you are bad for not noticing what is actually happening. Because if this is somehow an original this is really good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 18:54:05 2015 No.2321235 File: 340 KB, 494x627, fbe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321058 holy shit i don't even know what that means, i'm going to try with loomis, thank you very much for pointing that issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 18:59:38 2015 No.2321238 File: 74 KB, 701x1007, centralfocus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321157 I love this painting; used it in a video once.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:03:03 2015 No.2321241 >>2321238 Was the video called: Overthinking without understanding: the art of drawing meaningless lines on pictures to simulate knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:03:38 2015 No.2321243 >>2321209 Thanks for your time and advice I'll like that Death cross pose, I'll work on it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:06:49 2015 No.2321247 File: 52 KB, 278x209, perfect-form.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321241 Why the salt bro?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:10:00 2015 No.2321253 >>2321157 Kind of complicated but i think i get the idea. inb4: nice painting

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:30:49 2015 No.2321267 File: 1.58 MB, 3066x1884, killme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you self critic and know that you are making actual progress.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:30:57 2015 No.2321268 >>2320949 number 1, 3D shapes number 2 form number 3 values worry about those before you worry about color at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:34:32 2015 No.2321272 >>2321235 What I meant with my redlined image is that you messed up Etna's proportions. If you take a look at Loomis he will early on explain a bit about proportions, so that's good

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:34:55 2015 No.2321274 File: 57 KB, 800x533, n_062.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321267 is this from a reference? If not try to find one thats similar and compare

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:35:02 2015 No.2321275 >>2321267 if you have what you want then you did improve if you don't keep drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:36:30 2015 No.2321276 File: 96 KB, 1200x746, studythreadddd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321267 Was this your reference, by any chance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:39:39 2015 No.2321281 >>2321272 thank you i don't speak english but i guess that is translated or i can practice english, anyway i will take a look, which book do you recommend to start?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:41:04 2015 No.2321284 >>2320897 thanks, I guess

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:43:45 2015 No.2321290 >>2321047 Anyone?

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:52:29 2015 No.2321295
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>>2321276
same girl, different pic.

>>2321274
from a reference.

>>2321275
I think the issue is I know that there are improvements to be made but i'm not exactly sure how and what to change really.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:54:06 2015 No.2321298 >>2321295 >but i'm not exactly sure how and what to change Probably because there is just so much wrong in general. Maybe break it down try just working on the face man

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:56:52 2015 No.2321305

>>2321295
You basically got so much wrong its impossible to critique because you cant focus on any one thing that is 'wrong' about it, its just all messed up. Draw something simpler and the errors will jump out more clearly and you will more easily able to improve.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:57:24 2015 No.2321307 >>2321047 >>2321290 drawing is trying to get a speicific look on purpose because you know what you're doing, In short trying for a complete picture. study is learning. You just want to learn what you're studying even if it turns out bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:59:17 2015 No.2321310 >>2321305 >>2321298 right, need to start drawing simpler/more focus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:59:40 2015 No.2321311 >>2321295 first you need to know what the fundamentals are then you learn how to use them Your Fundamentals: Basic shapes Anatomy and construction Light and value Perspective Color Composition

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 20:13:20 2015 No.2321325 >>2321281 I'm not that good. I recommend that you try Loomis and Vilppu and see if they're interesting for you (read the sticky, in other words). You also must draw for hundreds of hours, that's the most important thing. Practice, practice, practice.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 20:22:58 2015 No.2321334

>>2321295

>I think the issue is I know that there are improvements to be made but i'm not exactly sure how and what to change really.

You need to focus on smaller things because you're trying to draw a whole figure with shading and details, but everything is bad. Try doing gestures/contours/whatever of a figure. Lax on details and shading, just trying to capture the general pose. Or maybe you should try shading spheres and stuff. Or you can just try to draw from life, but don't think to much about anything except photocopying (which should improve your ability to see proportions, angles, lines, stuff life that).

I'd also continue to consume books or videos, but don't procrastinate with them. The point is to have some focus or direction, as well as a steady injection of new perspectives on what you are doing. Books and videos are also good because they may suggest exercises, which are probably designed by the author/producer to make you focus on something approachable which will grind a certain skill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 20:31:55 2015 No.2321345 >>2321213 I made some randome sketches, chose one redline add color very fast and notice that i like it. read the sticky long ago

>>	testname Sat Dec 19 20:37:44 2015 No.2321349 >>2321345 sure you didnt reference?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 20:48:38 2015 No.2321366 File: 1.26 MB, 2048x1536, Mountain range.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:07:38 2015 No.2321400 >>2321366 Cubes dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:09:57 2015 No.2321402 >>2321213 what? It's not good at all rofl, It doesn't matter if it's original or not. S T I C K Y

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:15:56 2015 No.2321406 >>2321400 Cubes? Please elaborate bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:18:51 2015 No.2321408 File: 655 KB, 1000x1000, Drawing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any tips? (This is a view from a window in an abandoned building btw.)

>>	testname Sat Dec 19 21:20:04 2015 No.2321411 >>2321402 post your art, im sure youre bad because you dont get the qualities of said works. I'll explain after humiliating you i promise.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:21:14 2015 No.2321413

>>2321406
Not that anon, but basically when drawing things in perspective, you'd create cubes as place holders to determined the proper perspective as to what you'll be drawing. This gives these items a more 3D feel, as you'll be building within the cube.

Show us how you structured it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:21:32 2015 No.2321414 >>2321408 My eyes are immediately drawn to the outside but you haven't really fleshed that part out, I think. I would work on introducing more values and detail there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:26:40 2015 No.2321416 >>2321414 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:33:26 2015 No.2321418 File: 441 KB, 2048x1536, Planning.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321413 It's not the exact sketch (I erased the layer), but I normally lay out the basic parts of the image before I add details.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:43:21 2015 No.2321425

Hi guys, right now I'm just starting drawing and I'm doing Peter Han's exercise where you draw lines 8 times over themselves. I'm curious, normally when I write I press so hard into the page that my hand hurts. I've realized that this isn't really conducive to drawing so I've eased up a lot. I still press firmly but not hard.

Is this a bad habit? I've tried drawing with as little pressure as possible and it makes things very difficult and I'm very shaky. I'm wondering if I need to try to acclimate myself to it or am I fine as it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:10:33 2015 No.2321447 >>2320621 /s/

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:15:33 2015 No.2321450

>>2321425
> that my hand hurts
That's clearly wayyyy too much. You shouldn't be pressing that hard for any reason. Why would you even start doing that? Pain exists to make you stop doing things. Anyway, if you can't draw nice lines without pushing down hard, you probably should work on that, do more exercises and some light gesture drawings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:18:12 2015 No.2321455 >>2321425 I assume you are a pen, and yes it would be a real problem if you tried to use a pencil. Are you still drawing with your hand or did you actually read the whole lesson and draw the lines the right way?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:21:36 2015 No.2321460 >>2321455 >you are a pen hahahaha USING a pen

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:22:42 2015 No.2321461 >>2321450 How hard am I allowed to press? >>2321460 Do you mean using my arm instead of my wrist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:26:43 2015 No.2321465 >>2321461 >How hard am I allowed to press? When you normally write, say, you're name, how hard do you press?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:27:14 2015 No.2321466 File: 48 KB, 400x393, diagram_armpivots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321461 Yeah, if you are using your shoulder/elbow you shouldn't be pushing hard at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:28:11 2015 No.2321469 >>2321465 Like I said in my first post, when I write I press really hard, so I toned it way down. But I'm still pressing into the page.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:29:24 2015 No.2321470

>>2321461
It's not so much about how hard you are "allowed" to press, and more about how softly you are "able" to press. Basically, when you're writing how hard you press doesn't matter at all, but when you're drawing, how hard you press effects how the line looks. You want to be able to press very softly while still accurately, because it's very useful for sketching. Pressing hard is what you do when you want to make clear, heavy dark lines (that are difficult to erase if in pencil). Even using a pen, pressing hard will increase line thickness. You need to be able to vary it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 00:12:12 2015 No.2321600 >>2321366 learn to paint plus things in the back should look lighter the further back, things closer are darker

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 00:13:13 2015 No.2321603 >>2321447 what is /S/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 00:31:48 2015 No.2321613 >>2321603 He's telling you to read the sticky

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 00:36:56 2015 No.2321619 >>2321613 you know what a gesture drawing is right

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 00:51:43 2015 No.2321625
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>>2320234

Same guy from this. This is my most recent.

Grabbed Manga Studio, and it honestly handles a ton better than Photoshop. I'm crutching a bit on the stabilization, but I find it's a lot nicer to work with overall.

Anyways, please rip this apart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 00:56:12 2015 No.2321628 >>2321625 Holy chicken scratch. You obviously have the ability to understand the shape of what you are drawing, not perfect but pretty well. Draw each curve with 1 line not 1,000.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 01:24:14 2015 No.2321637 >>2321628 It's just a lack of confidence, I guess. By shaping each line slowly I find I'm better able to create the sort of shape I'm looking for. It's fucking terrible, I know, and I'm going to look around for exercises on how to stop. Thanks.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 01:27:15 2015 No.2321642

>>2321625
>I'm crutching a bit on the stabilization
Have you ever seen someone win at the olympics with the worst possible equipment they can get?
No, they get the very fucking best to improve the fruits of their training, effort and technique even in the slightest.

Don't become one more /ic/ faggot who believes everything is cheating, tools are there to be used and the only reason oldfags didn't use them was because we didn't have them.

Maybe if you were less insecure about your tool use you'd be more secure about your line placement and not scratch like you're on withdrawal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 01:36:22 2015 No.2321648 >>2321642 Thanks. I actually means quite a bit more to read this than you could imagine. I've got a shit ton of practice ahead of me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 03:04:25 2015 No.2321693 File: 43 KB, 314x363, 1410603151847.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it's taken me over half a year to read 100 pages of Bert Dodson's keys to drawing lol I'm pathetic, I'm barely even any better than when I started.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 03:49:38 2015 No.2321711 >>2321600 Learning to draw first is more important that learning to paint. >plus things in the back should look lighter the further back, things closer are darker They do.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 04:03:32 2015 No.2321715

>>2321711
What do you know about art? Cause that isn't correct. Painting and drawing use the same fundamentals. However painting uses all of them while drawing often uses only half. Painting will make you much better at drawing, specifically digital painting.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 04:07:14 2015 No.2321716

>>2320096
Some of you may be missing the point. You aren't trying to copy the OP picture. They are giving you a topic to study.

>Thread study: Lets try an enviroment this time. The key is to capture the depth of the landscape.
Environment. Capture depth.
Don't copy the photo, cause copying photos is not drawing from life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gidmwIYtEz8

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 04:28:04 2015 No.2321719 [DELETED]

>>2321715

I know a lot, and it is correct. You are the one who is wrong. The only thing painting uses that drawing doesn't is color and that's it. Drawing teaches you line, shape, construction, edges, composition, tone, value, light, shadow etc...

I suggest you watch some of Jeff Watts' videos. He says exactly the same thing, and I respect his opinion and experience much more than yours.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 04:39:08 2015 No.2321723 File: 181 KB, 534x813, Hardcore-p02_0000s_0000_Layer-3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anatomy and perspective check

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 04:39:58 2015 No.2321725 [DELETED]

>>2321715

I know a lot, seemingly more than you. I'm not sure where you got this arbitrary "half" estimate from because it's nonsense.

The only thing painting uses that drawing doesn't is color and that's it.

Drawing teaches you line, shape, construction, edges, composition, tone, value, light, shadow etc...

Artists that focus more on painting before getting down the fundamentals of good drawing are usually the ones who have pretty, yet superficial rendering and everything else, structure, proportion, composition etc...is terrible.

I suggest you watch some of Jeff Watts' videos. He teaches in the classical atelier style which has a heavy focus on drawing before even touching a paintbrush.

He explains exactly the same thing, and it coincides with everything reputable teaching I've read on the subject. I also respect his opinion, experience and results much more than most.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 04:52:44 2015 No.2321728

>>2321715

I know a lot, seemingly more than you. I'm not sure where you got this arbitrary "half" estimate from because it's nonsense.

The only thing painting uses that drawing doesn't is color and that's it.

Drawing teaches you composition, perspective, construction, anatomy, line, shape, edges, tone, value, light, shadow.

Artists that focus on painting before getting down the fundamentals of good drawing are usually the ones who have superficially pretty rendering and everything else in the image, structure, proportion, composition etc...is terrible.

I suggest you watch some of Jeff Watts' videos. He teaches in the classical atelier style which has a heavy focus on drawing before even touching a paintbrush.

He explains exactly the same thing as I have. I also respect his opinion, experience and results much more than most, and it is also the same thing said by any reputable teaching of art I've ever seen or read.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 06:46:49 2015 No.2321768 >>2321148 I like it. How long have you been drawing for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 09:39:32 2015 No.2321832 File: 84 KB, 593x787, b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321157 >>2321209 Alright i think i fixed the "center of gravity" it looks more "dynamic" than before in my opinion. What do you think guys?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 12:12:11 2015 No.2321922 >>2321768 Appreciated. :) I've been drawing traditionally on and off for a few years, but only bought a graphics tablet about a year ago and am slowly getting used to it and drawing digitally.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:39:06 2015 No.2322007
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>>2321723
hey! it's not bad as an attempt at a more extreme perspective, you just have to keep it consistent. you've got a grid on the floor, and according to that grid the horizon line is pretty low, but you should always continue the grid to extend above the horizon line as well! as a result, what you've got going on here is some decent perspective for the lower half of the body, but then everything is eye-level for the upper half. the shoulders, hips and hands should all be skewed in perspective as well (though not necessarily to the same vanishing point as the feet if they're tilted in some way). sometimes it can help to draw the figure in 2D from a front or side view to help work out how everything would look at eye-level before distorting it.

also, you didn't ask about this, but as far as your drawing style goes, it's feels very line-based! which is fine, many people start out that way, i think, but it would be beneficial to start to build your figure up in forms as opposed to contours. start thinking about cross contour lines and how the body parts connect to one another. visualizing them as 3d shapes should make drawing in perspective much easier!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:51:27 2015 No.2322013 File: 181 KB, 1204x700, g.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I trying some character design.Tell me what you think about this dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:58:20 2015 No.2322018 >>2322013 Back to loomis

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 13:59:51 2015 No.2322020

>>2320144
some people think in images, some words, some touch sensations, some feelings and so on.

if you don't think in images, try thinking what it would feel like to run your fingers over what you're drawing and then draw that. if you're having problem with a part, feel it for real as reference

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 14:04:19 2015 No.2322024 >>2320439 in short study head anatomy, and neck length

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 14:05:39 2015 No.2322027 >>2320660 forget porn just go out sit somewhere with people and draw.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 14:08:13 2015 No.2322030 >>2321148 love the hair, mouth is off center - right side needs to go more to the right so it ends under the pupil.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 14:09:22 2015 No.2322032 >>2321207 looks like corel painter

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 14:12:23 2015 No.2322035 I always have trouble drawing legs and feet. I've gotten better at bodies and arms but they aren't all that perfect. Anyone know of any tips on how to draw legs and feet to where they don't look all fucked up and weird?

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 14:18:22 2015 No.2322039
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>>2321832
Definitely looking' better, my negro. Keep it up. One thing I will say is that you should work on perspective. The way her head is tilted looks like we're looking slightly up at her. Pic related shows her inside of a box. From the looks of your picture, the viewer's eye level is right around her back/elbow region. So keep in mind that lines below that "eye level" will converge downwards, while lines above that eye level, or "horizon line" will converge upwards. That's why I added the "underside of her chin", since we're looking up at her, we would be able to see that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:11:47 2015 No.2322093 >>2322035 draw legs and feet

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 15:15:19 2015 No.2322096 >>2322007 you completely failed to understand the pose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:23:51 2015 No.2322101 >>2322039 Completely killed the dynamicity of the drawing by reducing the spread of the legs. Not everything needs to be David-like contrapposto.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:45:14 2015 No.2322112 File: 562 KB, 800x1184, shapes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why does life have to be in 3d?, 2d is so much better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:45:16 2015 No.2322113 File: 76 KB, 593x787, Undyne red lyne 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322101 I was mainly trying to demonstrate a point on perspective. He can't can change the pose however he wants.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:49:24 2015 No.2322114 >>2322113 ignore that "can't". my bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:53:42 2015 No.2322118 File: 4 KB, 267x267, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I get Photoshop to display brush names here? 3/4 look identical.

>>	Super Smash Bros. Melee For Th(...) Sun Dec 20 16:02:55 2015 No.2322123 >>2320979 >>2320983 proportionally, forehead is too small. practice folds in clothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:32:14 2015 No.2322157 File: 23 KB, 371x512, DaVinci.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322123 Nice critique, maybe you should have told da vinci to study Loomis and read the sticky. You fucking dimwit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:35:11 2015 No.2322159 >>2322157 You're implying that he made a perfect copy if that painting when he did not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:40:53 2015 No.2322160 >>2321832 You did well. Now scrap it and do another drawing, it's been 2 days now--attempt something new, maybe with same character.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:44:42 2015 No.2322164 >>2322159 Post your work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:51:41 2015 No.2322173 >>2322164 Please, post YOUR work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:02:11 2015 No.2322183 File: 219 KB, 800x1154, merc_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322173

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:03:59 2015 No.2322186 >>2322159 The "issues" he picked up on are exactly the same however.

testname Sun Dec 20 17:06:20 2015 No.2322188
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>>2322173
>>2322164

Seriously though I agree with >>2322159
in the fact that the head is too small/jaw too long, in relation to da vinci as well as independently. Its not because you have the davinci tag that everything becomes ok.

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 17:07:45 2015 No.2322190 >>2322183 nice copeout, basically, refusing to post your work means youre bad because if you were any decent you would post it as you have the statistical advantage.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:08:00 2015 No.2322191
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Posting here since i dont really know what im doing. Like i dont feel im a beginner but i dont feel im anything but a beginner? like where should i head studying wise what should i work on and stuff? like i dont mind if it boring stuff as long as it's a tangible answer besides oh study fundamentals cause what is fundamentals and how do you study it?

Pic included is my latest work after atleast a week of not drawing o: i forgot a ton of shiz but it sorta representative of my work i guess

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:14:11 2015 No.2322198 >>2322190 Nice projection there brah, too bad the same applies to you

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:21:34 2015 No.2322204 File: 67 KB, 1000x1000, girl pose 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2321625 I tried cleaning up the line work a bit from the previous one and took a stab at basic ass feet. Thoughts?

testname Sun Dec 20 17:21:56 2015 No.2322206

>>2322191
you should post in stylization theres no reason to feel inadequate.

id recommend a bit of anatomy/gesture studies, stop using the soft brush and always use a hard brush and definitely form studies.

Probably shouldnt have revealed how bad i am with this redline but whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:23:03 2015 No.2322207 >>2322190 Stop speaking for me. I think he did a fine job.

testname Sun Dec 20 17:25:13 2015 No.2322209
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>>2322198
>>2322206
Woops forgot to add it

I guess it doesnt apply to me anymore, you should do someone elses redline so we can compares epeen.

>>2322207
I think you should post your work :)

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 17:26:33 2015 No.2322212 >>2322209 i forgot part of the other elbow but whatever.

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 17:28:58 2015 No.2322214 >>2322212 shoulder* i should stop quick posting god damn me.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:29:05 2015 No.2322216

>>2322204
You should study gesture. Your pose is very stiff. When you say "cleaning up your lines" what do you mean? Because it kinda looks like you just went in with an eraser and tried to trim off all the hairy lines. What you should do is practice gesture to gain that confidence in your lines. Maybe do some blind contour drawing too. Just let loose, don't be shy, don't be timid. The paper wants to be your friend. It don't matter if the drawing isn't nice at first, it will get better once you learn how to tame your arm.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:30:01 2015 No.2322220

>>2322209
ooh alright thanks i'll post there and yeah i can see where my shiz went wrong like the eye compression was dead on. I'm really bad with faces so i never noticed it till ya pointed it out. Also yeah I agree with a tilt it'd look better. Torso length is also i prob i have. It so hard for me to make a girl look slim without giving her a long body for some reason. thanks for pointing that out. Btw got any settings for a hard brush i can use?

testname Sun Dec 20 17:33:29 2015 No.2322222

>>2322220
im on noob tool sai and have no good brush settings, people have recommended the base brush on 100% opacity in the past. I personally use acrylic and then a blending acrylic but I still suck at rendering so its probably not optimal. My rendering talent pool is big so I've got that going for me at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:34:59 2015 No.2322226 >>2322118 Anyone? It's really been a thorn for me.

testname Sun Dec 20 17:37:25 2015 No.2322229

>>2322226
dont have photoshop but i can copy paste into google cuz im not retarded.

Problably this is the answer, didnt read it though

Then go to the Edit menu and choose Define Brush Preset (Photoshop CS) or Define Brush (Elements). Name the brush and click OK. Close the document without saving changes (unless you want to keep the original text file for when you need to update it). Now open the image you want to work with and add a new layer.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:38:18 2015 No.2322230

>>2322222
yeah i noticed the sai box cropped out that's why i asked haha. I'll give that a shot simple circle right? i was using a flat brush but turned opacity down to 30 when sketching and only at 100 for lines and stuff but rendering i'd use a waterbrush but on the next piece i'll try a hard brush

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:40:44 2015 No.2322232

>>2322216

By "cleaning up my lines" I mean basically that. I tried to do less of the scratching my way down a curve and a little more in one pass and it's definitely still a fucking mess. Sorry, but what do you mean by practice gesture? Also, would you mind terribly elaborating a touch of blind contour drawing? Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:43:22 2015 No.2322233 >>2322229 I did google it. That has nothing to do with my issue. I don't want to create brushes or name brushes, I want Photoshop to display the names instead of brush diameter. Couldn't really find anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:46:11 2015 No.2322236 >>2321922 I'd like to get where you are.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:54:28 2015 No.2322243

>>2321728
Most of the drawings on this board don't have composition, color, or value. Which painting uses often.

The other 3 fundamentals are anatomy, shape, and perspective. You should know this. And most drawings on this board only have these 3 and it's what they're working on.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:03:21 2015 No.2322248

>>2322096
I drew the picture and I didn't get the pose I was intending. I got the pose wrong he did it right.

>>2322007
One leg is going back the other is going forward. I was using normal perspective for everything but the legs. I also had vanishing points that were lower and closer together.

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 18:10:57 2015 No.2322256 >>2322233 http://www.quepubli shing.com/a rticles/article.aspx?p= 1588846&seqN um=4 https://he lpx.adobe.com/pho toshop/usin g/brush-presets.h tml Perhaps? last try because im completely lost.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:19:12 2015 No.2322262 File: 100 KB, 500x500, owl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I drew a owl.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:23:13 2015 No.2322268 >>2322262 Are you sure that's an owl, anon? Look again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:39:08 2015 No.2322286 Basic bitch beginner artist here. I can't reliably get my hands on a tablet. Is mouse drawing that awful?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:42:19 2015 No.2322290 >>2322286 You tell me. lol Is it?

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:42:36 2015 No.2322291
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I attempted art a few months ago and quit like a little bitch. I want to start again and get back in the swing of things. I don't know where to start again though? I've already done Peter Han's line exercises and some gesture type things but thats about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:43:23 2015 No.2322293 >>2322286 >Beginner >Using a tablet Stop now. Get paper and computer paper. Don't use tablet for at least the first year.

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 18:43:48 2015 No.2322295 >>2322286 if you can only mouse draw, either go pixel art or draw IRL. A 50$ tablet will save you money even on paper and pens if you draw for long enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:43:58 2015 No.2322296 >>2322291 READ THE FUCKING STICKY, YOU DIPSHIT ARE YOU BLIND?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:46:18 2015 No.2322297 >>2322293 >>2322295 Oh, I know. I'm using a pencil and sketchpad right now lmao. What's so awful about beginners using tablets? Also, Pixel art looks pretty fun, I might try that out as a side thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:48:23 2015 No.2322300 >>2322297 > What's so awful about beginners using tablets Everything you can't think about, because you're a beginner

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:49:51 2015 No.2322301

>>2322297
>What's so awful about beginners using tablets

Literally everything.
You gain no benefit at all and only adapt bad habits will drawing on tablet.

Making the transfer from Tablet to Traditional is way too difficult. But making the transfer from traditional to tablet is really easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:51:25 2015 No.2322302 >>2322301 Gotcha. I'll stick to trad. drawing, then.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:53:59 2015 No.2322305

>>2322302
I still remember that comment, I forget who, but some artists during an interview was asked how long it took him to transfer from traditional to digital. He explained that it took him a very, very long time. When asked the amount of time it took, he said "6 hours".

So yeah, doesn't seem that bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:02:14 2015 No.2322315 It doesn't fucking matter if you start on a tablet don't listen to these d/ic/ks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:03:19 2015 No.2322317 >>2322315 I will add: you should always have a sketchbook when away from your comptuer anyway. So technically you're doing both.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:20:46 2015 No.2322329 can anyone please point me in the direction of forms/perspective?, these books are confusing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:23:24 2015 No.2322334 What kind of drawing tablet would /ic/ recommend?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:25:54 2015 No.2322335 >>2322315 I've had more fun on a tablet, but more improvement and success overall traditionally. I cant understand any of settings for the tablet/drawing program for the love of me.

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 19:30:41 2015 No.2322341 >>2322293 >>2322297 >>2322301 tablets arent evil. nice meme faggots >>2322335 youre just confused because your lines are shit and youre getting away with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:38:41 2015 No.2322345 >>2322334 I started with a Pen and touch bamboo which was okay, if you want more drawing room get and intuos.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:46:10 2015 No.2322350 >>2322341 your lines are gonna be shit if you're a beginner, hence why he's recommending traditional first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 19:53:03 2015 No.2322360 >>2322350 >lines faggot you don't need to worry about that in painting hence what a tablet is for

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 19:57:46 2015 No.2322368 >>2322350 lines are just as shit on paper just it seems better. Plus, lines are completely irrelevant to the whole of the art process.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:28:20 2015 No.2322493
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Okay so I'm making this pin up girl and everything is going well nicely IMO but I'm having such a hard time getting facial anatomy correct can anyone help me on face shape, eye, nose, mouth position?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:42:01 2015 No.2322518 File: 1.12 MB, 1331x816, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320439 >2 days later Hurt me please. I also paint at the pace of an epileptic potato, any advice for painting faster?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:53:14 2015 No.2322525 >>2322518 You painted just about everything straight on despite your reference having his head tilted slightly to the left

>>	testname Sun Dec 20 23:00:00 2015 No.2322530 >>2322493 literally everything is wrong and im not going to explain because youre double dipping on threads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:04:33 2015 No.2322536 >>2322530 blog?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:10:01 2015 No.2322540 >>2322525 ...oh shit. Is there any way to fix this or would it just be easier to scrap it and start over?

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:13:21 2015 No.2322545

>>2322530
super constructive brosky

>>2322493
The left arm (her right) should be foreshortened, it looks too large here
The right arm (her left) has far too large of a Deltoid muscle.
The right leg (her left) should be pushed up higher by sitting on the other, right now it looks like it gets very thin where it sits on the other.
The left leg (her right) is too long in general and the calf is too large, the feet are all sorts of fucked up.
For the face you should really just look up some portrait drawing tutorials and practice perspective

I like the overall style you're going for though, it definitely fits for pin up girls.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:14:36 2015 No.2322546 >>2322518 the mouth isnt wide enough you just tried to line it up with the pupils but your pupils were fucked so everything got fucked

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:16:32 2015 No.2322548

>>2322540
You can't really fix it without redoing most of the face. I don't really like drawing the same thing over and over, so if I were you I'd just move on to another face, but that's for you to decide.

Once you get perspective down it won't look half bad though.

Super Smash Bros. Melee For Th(...) Sun Dec 20 23:22:06 2015 No.2322555
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>>2322157
ah, i didn't know anon was studying a Da Vinci. my point still stands though; forehead does seem too small, but upon closer inspection the face is slightly too large, making the forehead seem small in comparison.

the way that anon did the folds (especially on the version where he upped the contrast, big no-no imo because values are harder to critique that way) made me assume that he wanted the folds to be deeper/more 'pleated' rather than subtl as they are in the original Da Vinci you posted

>>2322190
please calm down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:24:34 2015 No.2322556 File: 710 KB, 800x1184, oh god.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] somebody save me

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:25:58 2015 No.2322558 >>2322556 blog?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:28:13 2015 No.2322560 >>2322558 don't tease me like this, please.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:29:19 2015 No.2322562 >>2322560 you're the one teasing us, by not linking your fuckin' blog!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:30:13 2015 No.2322564 >>2322556 Read some basic drawing tutorials, if you're really trying it's not that hard to make what you draw look much better than this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:36:49 2015 No.2322570 File: 167 KB, 1018x574, fix your porportions.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322564 drawing what you see and drawing forms and basic shapes are worlds apart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:37:11 2015 No.2322571 File: 482 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_20151215_150443.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320823 sometimes I feel bad as I draw , but after seeing yours I feel better ..

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:52:45 2015 No.2322581 >>2322571 blog?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:58:57 2015 No.2322587 File: 1.53 MB, 2448x3264, 1450673881375-383765518.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, am I doing this figure drawing crap right? It looks like I'm following all the rules.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:00:14 2015 No.2322590 >>2322587 why do people feel the need to troll the beginner thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:03:08 2015 No.2322593 >>2322590 Dude, stfu and tell me if I'm doing it right. If not, tell me wtf I'm supposed to be doing. You're not funny, so if you really know what you're doing then show me your art instead of just sucking off your own Loomis-drawn dick.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:04:55 2015 No.2322594

>>2322232
Gesture is a quick sketch of a figure that encompasses the the pose and it's essence. Generally your goal is to capture a sense of movement, weight, action, etc. It's important that your gesture drawing is pretty quick, keep your lines loose, try not to lift your arm off the page so often, don't focus on details, JUST focus on capturing the pose. It's also important to find the "line of action" when observing a pose, and then build your gesture upon that line of action. A blind contour drawing is when you look at an object (Take your hand for example) and you draw that object WITHOUT looking at the page and without lifting your pen off the page.This exercise helps with confidence, and improves your ability to SEE the object you are looking at. Try to use pen when doing contour drawings. It will further push you outside your comfort zone because it's permanent, so you absolutely can not be afraid to make mistakes.Good luck, and try to have fun with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:06:02 2015 No.2322596 >>2322593 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j39NqwL7s4

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:07:20 2015 No.2322599 >>2322232 >>2322596 Perfect, thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:10:24 2015 No.2322600 >>2322596 Yeah, that's what I've been watching. How is what he does any different than what I did? Like, at all? I did exactly what this guy said here. >>2322594

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:19:47 2015 No.2322608 >>2322600 Have you read Keys to Drawing or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain? This will help you out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:22:10 2015 No.2322609 >>2322608 Not yet. I've been trying to avoid what reading /ic/ recommends after reading Loomis's books. Turns out he has no idea how to teach. At least I personally don't think he does.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:26:02 2015 No.2322612

>>2322609
Loomis' books are actually really good, it's just not beginner friendly. Books like Figure Drawing for all it's worth will actually teach you how to draw attractive woman, and from there, understanding how to stylize them will become a lot more simple.

However, you're current level isn't even beginner yet. Read Keys to Drawing to get yourself to that level. It basically teaches you Step 1 of drawing. Read Loomis way later in the future. WAY later...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:30:09 2015 No.2322615 >>2322612 Keys to drawing? Alright, and I'm guessing drawing on the right side of the brain right after that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:31:36 2015 No.2322620 >>2322615 Read either or. You don't need both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:32:23 2015 No.2322621 File: 957 KB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >copy this upside down they said >it'll be fun they said >deargodwhatareyou!?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:34:28 2015 No.2322625 >>2322621 Kek, I always hated that exercise to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:36:29 2015 No.2322631 >>2322620 OK. Is there anywhere I can view a PDF? My phone gets pissy when trying to use the mega.co.nz links.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:39:28 2015 No.2322633
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Like skill wise im not beginner beginner but... I NEED to find out where to being. I haven't done any traditional studying or practice the only things I have done up to this point is figure drawing. I took a class in college and I did it on my spare time with quickposes i think?

I haven't read any book except for right side of the brain in highschool? and that shit did not help me 1% like at all. So i don't know where I should begin Any and all help is appreciated thanks a lot!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:42:28 2015 No.2322636 >>2322633 You need to study anatomy and perspective. You should probably just hang out in the beginner threads until you've got those down.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:45:58 2015 No.2322638 >>2322518 lips are way too narrow, nose should be thicker and much more bulbous towards the bottom, iris should be smaller, the inner corners of the eye shouldn't be pointing down that much

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 00:47:23 2015 No.2322639 >>2322636 ahh kk i thought so but someone told me to move to stylization thread What do you suggest to learn perspective and anatomy? I thought my anatomy wasnt that awful to be honest but learning anatomy better sounds great to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:06:05 2015 No.2322661 >>2322639 The two extra arms don't seem to really connect, and if you knew anatomy you could have it look a bit more realistic, you also didnt draw any hands so I assume you're not too great at them. The tits could also use some work.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:12:56 2015 No.2322671

>>2322661
oooh all your points are correct haha.

So what should I do to fix those areas? I'd assume more figure stuff but I swear I feel if i keep doing the same thing over and over ima just keep doing my art incorrectly and I'd rather learn a technique or flow or something to point me to the correct direction so practice doesnt feel in vain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:16:01 2015 No.2322674 >>2322530 You're an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:17:01 2015 No.2322676 >>2322545 Hey thanks man for the criticism

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:19:48 2015 No.2322677
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>>2322671
Draw some models in various poses paying particular attention to the chest and where the arms meet the body, maybe study muscle structure if you can be bothered to.
Also look up some pictures of hands and draw them in different poses, maybe read a tutorial or two on how to draw them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:27:46 2015 No.2322683 File: 733 KB, 654x713, study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] From the study thread. I know I'm still chicken scratching and the head is wrong, but could someone please help me see what's wrong with the construction of the body?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:30:23 2015 No.2322685 File: 100 KB, 700x471, gesture-drawings.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322683 Symbol drawing try capturing the gesture instead of emulating the body completely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:36:55 2015 No.2322690 >>2322685 Okay so don't follow the reference so closely then? I started with a gesture but the proportions of the gesture were off in some places so I corrected as I constructed and drew the figure in. Is that bad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:39:27 2015 No.2322694 >>2322685 Kek he isn't symbol drawing (except for the facial features, probably reverted to symbol there because he's drawing too small), you can see he constructed or at least he tried. He's just shit at doing it because he lacks experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:51:05 2015 No.2322703 >>2322677 Alright thank you I'll work on the upper body than torso arms and hands and leave the bottom half for after I get those under control.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:53:37 2015 No.2322705 File: 650 KB, 654x713, 1450679266909.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322683 Mine is off too but I think our biggest problem is the legs proportions

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:55:35 2015 No.2322708 >>2322705 blog?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:56:43 2015 No.2322709 >>2322708 Why do you keep asking people that

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:59:57 2015 No.2322715

>>2322694
Do you have advice on how to build that experience? I was told to go and study forms/perspectives more for a while from drawabox.com so I'm doing that now. Just trying to learn how to practice smarter

>>2322705
Thanks for the reply. That's definitely the main area of issue in mine - your proportions are looking better for sure

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:18:04 2015 No.2322724

>>2322683
You need to spend more time measuring relationships. The arms for example aren't even close to accurate and it could be solved if you just spent more time measuring. Personally I have a white Q-tip I've put a black mark on a bit off center(cotton removed). I use it as head measurement when I draw on A4 size copy paper, with reference photo on the monitor. Hold it up against the monitor to get a clearer view of the angles etc.

That said, photocopy accuracy will come with time. Right now the whole gesture is completely lacking. Plot down the gesture lines and use those as guidelines. You might not end up with a photocopy, but the figure will at least look like it's fluid and organic. I thought I could skip gesture. I mean how important is it? It's so boring just making those fluid marks! Man, I can tell you that there's a reason experienced artists stress the value of gesture drawing. It's insane how much better your figures become by just plotting down simple gesture lines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:24:14 2015 No.2322728 >>2322724 Okay cool, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the advice!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:37:42 2015 No.2322739 >>2322709 He's mad no ones every asked him for his blog so hes trying to turn it into a dank may-may

>>	testname Mon Dec 21 02:54:57 2015 No.2322745 >>2322674 At least i help some people. Im also helping him by telling him that theres no over arching sense of anatomy that is broken by a single element as he is thinking.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:33:43 2015 No.2322759
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>>2322493
You can ignore my draw over, I realized I have no idea what Im doing either

But I do know that it's kinda obvious you and I don't understand what we're drawing with alot of the proportions and random shadows

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 03:52:38 2015 No.2322767 File: 161 KB, 798x615, 1450668500764.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322759 also I just realized how terrible the perspective is on the leg if u try to put it in space

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 07:26:31 2015 No.2322867 Is there anything that teaches the same things as Loomis, but different?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:08:25 2015 No.2322886 File: 150 KB, 1500x1555, pusht.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Done from reference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:09:12 2015 No.2322887 File: 191 KB, 640x640, push.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 08:56:24 2015 No.2322909 >>2322594 Thanks a ton! I'll definitely start working on the both of them. The more I look at it, the more I can tell the drawing is ridiculously stiff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 11:52:24 2015 No.2323013 >>2322867 check the sticky

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 12:58:53 2015 No.2323069 >>2320959 Depends what you're trying to accomplish. By drawing the legs that way you can achieve a desired attitude or posture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:05:46 2015 No.2323075 >>2322518 Looks like a young David Byrne

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:43:01 2015 No.2323111 File: 354 KB, 600x796, witchleaf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322886 amazing! Im practicing using PS and colour which both Im not good at yet

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:43:46 2015 No.2323112

>>2322596
This guys gestures, especially the earlier ones, seem to exaggerate the pose, and takes the limbs to further extremes. Is this necessary or desirable? I've never really understood the concept of gestures, even though I've watched a fair amount of material on it. Wouldn't you just draw a line for the hips, the shoulders, a line between, a line for each limb and the head, and end up with a stick figure?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:17:15 2015 No.2323143 File: 444 KB, 1520x2688, IMAG0433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time on this board. My art is horrible copies of other things, and I don't make any attempt to learn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:18:04 2015 No.2323144 File: 1.37 MB, 1520x2688, IMAG0420.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2323143

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:19:16 2015 No.2323146 File: 1.50 MB, 1520x2688, IMAG0101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2323144

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:21:26 2015 No.2323148 File: 1.95 MB, 3264x2448, 20131122_104052.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2323146 Probably my best piece, from an entry level high school course

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:24:04 2015 No.2323150 File: 55 KB, 600x417, mucknagabe aka bird fetish guy gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2323112 Do whatever works for you. The entire poses of gesture drawing is capturing the motion, not the contour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:32:34 2015 No.2323154 >>2323150 OK yeah, I get that, but how do I know if I'm doing a good job or not? How will I know I'm doing a good or bad job capturing motion? The whole idea sounds very nebulous and loosely defined to me.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:42:26 2015 No.2323163

>>2323154
Hard to explain, but simply put, you gotta feel it. Hampton explains how he usually tries to slightly exaggerate the pose to prevent stiffness in his poses. Just know you have to break things down into C S I.

If a person is crouching and getting ready for a jump, people usually form their legs into a spring to pop them up. Springs tend to create an squashed S shape. Try stretching your arm all the way out, then bend your elbow to try and touch the top of your shoulder. Now look at it, what kind of curve does it make? A C curve? Depending on the gesture, I tend to make the bottom arm a line, and the second part of the arm, I make a upside C trying to grab the shoulder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:13:47 2015 No.2323199 File: 352 KB, 935x680, hawk_studies_0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still at it with my hawk / bird studies. Also doing Peter Han and Draw a Box. They kind of go hand and hand but they both go about it in a different approach.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:11:35 2015 No.2323263 File: 2.73 MB, 3264x2448, 20151221_144711.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First excercise I finish already from 'Drawing with the right side of the brain' this really help me to understand how to draw /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:01:40 2015 No.2323308 >>2323144 How did you fuck up the thumb that badly when you've got a reference for it attached to your body 24/7?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 17:03:41 2015 No.2323310 >>2323263 It's meant to get you to see things as collections of lines and shapes, rather than symbols I honestly never liked it, and I've never had a hard time with symbol drawing, but I guess it helps some people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 19:02:36 2015 No.2323447 http://imgur.com/a/Jrg6a Waiting for Uncomfortable to reply to my practice, so I figure I might as well post it here again.

>>	Super Smash Bros. Melee For Th(...) Mon Dec 21 21:17:47 2015 No.2323554 File: 306 KB, 1072x685, landscape from beginner thread.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2320096 focused mostly on capturing the depth of the landscape as OP suggested.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:56:04 2015 No.2323594 File: 96 KB, 1000x670, lean_back_chair.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haven't tackled the anatomy subject yet (about to), but why do woman's stomach bubble up like in this image here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:00:00 2015 No.2323597 >>2323594 Women have a thicker layer of fat there to keep the body insulated during pregnancy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:03:52 2015 No.2323599 File: 2.73 MB, 2448x3264, 20151221_144711.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First excersice I already do from 'Drawing with the right side of the brain', this is really help me understand how to draw /ic/ (?)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:05:52 2015 No.2323602 >>2323597 thats neat to know. Now im just seeing every woman's stomach during my figure drawings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:43:38 2015 No.2323639 How do I practice drawing cylinders in perspective?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 00:58:18 2015 No.2323679 Is it okay to do Hampton and Proko's lectures at the same time? Or should I just stick with one? I'm enjoying both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:57:13 2015 No.2323761 >>2322745 No you don't and you don't make any fucking sense. The other anon actually gave examples of what is wrong instead of just saying "everything's wrong".

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:29:51 2015 No.2323902 >>2323639 Do a bunch in a bunch of different angles and sizes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:42:51 2015 No.2323915 >>2320096 how does one get good at values? Are still lifes the best exercise?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 13:56:10 2015 No.2323986 >>2323915 i'm not too sure on values, i haven't put enough time into it and i'm still working on drawing. this seems like a good way to train your eye http://spchopr.com/valuegame/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:27:51 2015 No.2324002 File: 80 KB, 701x768, Torso.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First chickenscratched attempts at figure drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:08:02 2015 No.2324029 File: 47 KB, 344x833, hmmm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2324002 I have no idea WHAT the FUCK I'm doing, but these are very fun

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:16:55 2015 No.2324033 we could use a new thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:58:04 2015 No.2325110 File: 429 KB, 1800x1200, here.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2322493 idk if you're still here or when this thread is going to die, but fix your anatomy bro. here, i tried to do it for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:59:29 2015 No.2325113 File: 139 KB, 1800x1200, here.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2325110 woops here's a .jpg instead

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:42:28 2015 No.2325321

>>2321600
Like >>2321711 said, I'm trying to develop my drawing skills before I move into painting. I tried to translate the 'fading' effect into the sketch, but I guess I didn't execute it well.
Thank you though, I'll try to work on the distance fade in the near future.

>>	noko Wed Dec 23 23:15:00 2015 No.2325357 File: 63 KB, 809x604, brudfan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do you like my breadfan, the fan of breads?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 02:56:45 2015 No.2325534 File: 1.11 MB, 595x763, BAS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	boss nigah Thu Dec 24 10:03:19 2015 No.2325717 >>2322173 aight kkool

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