DRAW THREAD

[Anonymous No.2240016]

Previous thread: >>2236147
Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.2240020]

>>2240016
w/o text
trying to practice anatomy without any reference
any pointers?

[Anonymous No.2240025]

just noticed her left forearn is too long, is there anything else?

[Anonymous No.2240028]

>>2240025
I think his right arm is too short

[Anonymous No.2240030]

Two Sisters (complete)

Acrylic on canvas, 36 x 24 inches, 2015-10-03

Any comments?

[Anonymous No.2240031]

>>2240030
Get some fundamental skills
Go out and do some drawing from life (people) and learn some form and lighting via still lifes and master studies

[Anonymous No.2240032]

>>2240031
you clearly failed to get the style he was going for

[Anonymous No.2240035]

>>2240032
The "style" you are going for is a crutch, an attempt to justify your lack of ability by making it seem deliberately crude
You have to know the rules before you break them, try harder

[Anonymous No.2240037]

>>2240020

I think you should keep the light much more simple if you want to practice anatomy without ref. It's not very accurate either way. Pecs attach too high, his right (from us left) arm doesn't protrude into the forground accurately and hand attached to it is just a mess.The face is alright although maybe jaw a little squished and forehead a little too elongated.

I think you are doing yourself a huge disservice by not keeping the lighting situation very simple and descriptive for this one. Cold ambient light from above, bright warm light from any side is what I'd go for. That allows you to 'calculate' how the light should affect every plane so that you can actually make conscious decisions rather than having to wing it (which imo right now makes spotting the anatomy errors in your wonky construction that much harder)

[Anonymous No.2240041]

I guess it needs more work, thank you for the wonderful comments and critique.

[Anonymous No.2240042]

>>2240035
This lol.

[Anonymous No.2240045]

two things, the second inspired by destiny

[Anonymous No.2240046]

>>2240045
fuck I keep posting without images

[Anonymous No.2240057]

>>2240046

dirtier than my 16 year old ukrainian ex girlfriend that sucked me off on the first date.

[Anonymous No.2240061]

No one said anything before so i'm going to repost it.

anything that could help me improve my brushwork, and maybe how to get a likeness of a person if you can't find a good ref

the guy on the painting is suppose to be lil wayne (picture itself is a joke and that's why he have a dead expression)

[Anonymous No.2240062]

>>2240061

forget about brushwork for now, superficialities are just going to hold you back. paint from life so you learn how light works. your portrait is lacking in everything honestly.

[Anonymous No.2240064]

>>2240057
i'm not sure I know how i'm supposed to interpret this

[Anonymous No.2240065]

>>2240062
I am not that guy, but can you post some of your work?

[Anonymous No.2240068]

>>2240065

No no no I'm too drunk and don't need my work attached to my drunkposter persona. I'm reasonably ahead of him though.

[Anonymous No.2240070]

>>2240025
Where's you eyeline? Head and hops both look like they're drawn at eye level. Also that skull isn't sitting on the same ground plane.

You've got some severe issues with same face. It's always the same face and expression. Do more portrait studies, paying attention to the eyes and lips.

[Anonymous No.2240072]

>>2240064

It's super dirty. You need to draw/paint cleaner. Use clipping masks or blow shit up in size and spend a couple of minutes defining edges.

Also although there is some degree of value control it seems rather random and not descriptive of form at all.

[Anonymous No.2240073]

[Anonymous No.2240077]

>>2240068
do you have it signed or something? just post one of them quickies or something. I just want to see your work.

[Anonymous No.2240078]

>>2240061
looks like kendrick lamar with weezy's dumbass face tattoos.

[Anonymous No.2240081]

>>2240073

[Anonymous No.2240083]

>>2240081

[Anonymous No.2240086]

>>2240077

Why? Just take the critique for what it is. I'm way better than you. If you think I might be shit and underestimating your skills because you got a wonky hobbyist-level value read by illuminating one side of the face... then you are way out of bounds bro. WAY out of bounds.

[Anonymous No.2240087]

>>2240081
you are samefacing hard. you need to do some life drawing of different people try to find a figure drawing class near you.

[Anonymous No.2240090]

I hope I'm getting a little bit better at composition

[Anonymous No.2240092]

She moved after 7 minutes at the train station. And she moved a lot too.

[Anonymous No.2240097]

>>2240016

[Anonymous No.2240098]

>>2240097
Structure/anatomy on the horse seem pretty wonky. Same with the perspective on the plane. Maybe spend a bit longer on the initial measuring/underdrawing.

[Anonymous No.2240099]

>>2240097
The wings are two different lengths
And the back right wing is tilted downwards in comparison to the other one.
The tail wing is also not straight up and down.

[Anonymous No.2240103]

>>2240097

[Anonymous No.2240105]

>>2240098
Thanks, I do get frustrating with the initial analyzing.

[Anonymous No.2240109]

>>2240090
i like the colors, but not the vignette. make those forests come alive

[Anonymous No.2240110]

>>2240090
Didn't somebody already say it was too cramped? Feels way too cramped, my dude

[Anonymous No.2240112]

Drew this when conceptualizing the feeling of pain.

Howed I do?

I'm pretty beginner.

[Anonymous No.2240114]

>>2240112
well it certainly hurts to look at

[Anonymous No.2240118]

>>2240114
I guess too stylized or somethin?

[Anonymous No.2240121]

>>2240118
>I guess too stylized
yeah, thats it

[Anonymous No.2240130]

>>2240121

fucking kek

[Anonymous No.2240134]

>>2240112
if you're actually serious:

read this:
>>1579290

and post your progress here:
>>2230141

[Anonymous No.2240136]

>>2240134thank you

[Anonymous No.2240145]

I need critique pls, sorry for size thx

[Anonymous No.2240148]

>>2240145

>>2240134

[Anonymous No.2240172]

>>2240046

blog? I like the composition of these creatures

[Anonymous No.2240179]

[Anonymous No.2240185]

>>2240179

[Anonymous No.2240186]

>>2240185

some small sketches for another woodblock

[Anonymous No.2240190]

[Anonymous No.2240191]

>>2240186

more for another assignment

[Anonymous No.2240193]

[Anonymous No.2240211]

>>2240035
>2015
its fucking chun you newfags.

[Anonymous No.2240223]

>>2240172
sorry, I don't have a blog or post these anywhere

[Anonymous No.2240226]

Gift for a friend

[Anonymous No.2240234]

>>2240226

Could look a bit more finished, but I like it.

I'd get rid of the blur on the kid's chest and arm though, doesn't fit and is fairly distracting.

[Anonymous No.2240245]

I wanted to draw cold, because my workspace is so fuggin cold, I had to draw under a blanket.

Filename was a pun, btw.

[Anonymous No.2240250]

>>2240016

[Anonymous No.2240251]

>>2240099
Missed this one, sorry.I see now that the back wing is too long and the tail fin is leaning to the side.

[Anonymous No.2240256]

>>2240223

:(

[Anonymous No.2240299]

I just started studying painting for at least 4 hours a day. I'm trying to casually build up the tolerance to paint for longer hours, but because I'm just starting this schedule, handling the small failures I'm facing now can get a little rough. I'm 4 days in and the ones prior never went anywhere(didn't save them). Would really appreciate any critiques if possible. I plan to do a painting without any ref after every 2 weeks of studying to see what I retain from them.

[Anonymous No.2240306]

>>2240064
>>2240072

I actually like the gritty nature of it. It's very reminiscent of the way that Guild Wars 2 does their stuff (but, with content that's actually appealing to me).

It's clear that you know what you're doing and probably could clean this up, but adding more detail would ruin the virgin appeal of this for me.

[Anonymous No.2240331]

WIP
Starting a comic.

[Anonymous No.2240336]

>>2240250
>dat lighting
Do you have the full size reference for this because reverse searching only gives me 550 x 340 as the largest.

[Anonymous No.2240372]

[Anonymous No.2240377]

>>2240086
calm down dude, I told you I wasn't samefag. I just wanted to see your work, since you're better. I am actually terrible with values.

[Anonymous No.2240380]

>>2240372
Cool, very lonely.

[Anonymous No.2240400]

>>2240046
Mind if I use these? I don't know what for, yet, but they're transparent so I'm thinking they'll look sick on a webpage.

[Anonymous No.2240405]

>>2240400
sure, so long as you don't claim them as your own (not that I can stop you)

[Anonymous No.2240416]

>>2240405
Everyone knows my artwork style. No one would believe me even if I tried. I'd credit you, but I don't have anything to put.

[Anonymous No.2240427]

>>2240416
then they're all yours

[Anonymous No.2240429]

[mayo No.2240447]

>>2240191
i like these

[Anonymous No.2240463]

still working on this painting
don't have work today, so I'll try and hammer out some work on it.

[Anonymous No.2240465]

>>2240463
this is another one I'm working on but needed a break from, about 60% complete
fridge for scale

[Anonymous No.2240466]

>>2240465
Who is this semen demon?

[Anonymous No.2240469]

>>2240463
and a another one I'm working on

>>2240466
the girl?

[Anonymous No.2240470]

>>2240466
the girl?

[Anonymous No.2240520]

Didn't want to leave it as it was, that's the best I can go for now.

[Anonymous No.2240522]

>>2240520
What bothers me is that you hold a compass horizontally, not vertically.
I don't see how this compass works.

[Anonymous No.2240524]

>>2240087
yea that happens every time i draw faces from imagination. 2nd one in from reference

[Anonymous No.2240526]

>>2240299
Needs a highlight. Also armets usually have breaths that line up with each other.
>>2240429
I don't know where this is going but I don't like it.

[Anonymous No.2240529]

>>2240522

Well, I could explain to you that it just shows where you need to go in a interesting way but I would never admit that I made the stupid mistake to forget how a compass logically works. Shit.

[Anonymous No.2240531]

>>2240520
compass looks fantastic, background looks horrible

[Anonymous No.2240538]

Almost finished with this, need to do a little more clean up. Critique is always welcomed.

[Anonymous No.2240539]

how can I draw breasts against something?
taking any input before inking

[Anonymous No.2240554]

>>2240531
I know man, I already hate this piece

[Anonymous No.2240587]

help...

[Anonymous No.2240594]

>>2240538
dude that's awesome sick, hope you're gonna define it a bit more, it looks a bit messy now. The only thing I can see right away is that the eyes aren't "lined up" one seems to be at a diagonal while the other is more horizontal, also the cheeks seem to be unaligned as well.

[Anonymous No.2240596]

>>2240539
depending on the size, you wanna think about them as if they're water balloons when it comes to volume texture of breast (it's better if you just go feel and play with some boobs instead).

[Anonymous No.2240598]

>>2240447

thanks

I think I'm going to make a sketchbook thread next time I post though, not really the appropriate thread for this stuff.

[Anonymous No.2240690]

>>2240520

Doing face studies now; I think I have to do major anatomy sessions.

[Anonymous No.2240691]

>>2240526
i dont like it either.

[Anonymous No.2240702]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2240709]

>>2240538
I think that if you cooled down the shadows it would improve the overall look, but that's just my opinion

[Anonymous No.2240722]

>>2240226
photocopied trash, you clearly have no idea of anatomy or abstraction, it also looks like shit

[Anonymous No.2240726]

Experiment with different ways to color. I liked the result

[Anonymous No.2240730]

>>2240538

Really nice, try using a brush with hard edges, will give a more refined look.

[Manic No.2240739]

>>2240016
Am I ready for color?

[Anonymous No.2240746]

>>2240739


lol no.

[Manic No.2240747]

>>2240746
Why not? What needs to be done to this before color?

[Anonymous No.2240748]

[Anonymous No.2240752]

>>2240748
Really saturated overall and the rimlight is poorly designed. The lighting of the rim is inconsistent on which planes it's hitting and lacks nice variety within it in terms of strength, size, colour, edge, etc.

His neck also feels very elongated. Traps and collar bones should be up more and his chest should be a more full volume instead of a flattened shape.

[Anonymous No.2240757]

>>2240747
Personally, you should at least line over it first. Coloring sketches isn't good.

[Anonymous No.2240760]

>>2240752

I'm not anon who painted that but I disagree with literally everything you've said. If you are the same guy as >>2240757 you need to stop giving crits because you are absolutely clueless.

[Anonymous No.2240763]

>>2240747
Study the basics of anatomy and perspective

[Anonymous No.2240766]

haha.. I just drew it bad ironically..!

[Anonymous No.2240768]

>>2240760
I'm not that guy. You are welcome to your opinion, but I think it is overstepping to call me "absolutely clueless". Why? What is wrong with my critique? How is it clueless? You have no idea who I am or what my skill level is, it's an anonymous board dude.

I fully stand by my crit there. It IS very saturated. For some reason the dude is in a very purple environment with a very yellow light hitting him from behind. He used some sort of layer mode to colour it in, and it leaves a monotonous and saturated look to it. Look at how strong the red of the hair is, how orange his skin is, how purple things are and how there are splotches of super saturated marks between things or at the edge of things. And the rimlight definitely is not hitting consistent planes. There are some that are not lit up that should be and some that are lit up that shouldn't be. He isn't thinking clearly of the direction the light is coming from.

[Anonymous No.2240769]

>>2240760
Chill, man. I don't know how the dude colors, so my immediate thought was "Why color a sketch?" Honestly, you're not helping any, discrediting people you know little to nothing about. I'm not an expert, but I'm by no means clueless, and neither is the other guy.

[Anonymous No.2240772]

>>2240752
>>2240768
hey thanks for the critique!
my general idea was to have him in a sunny day but mostly in the shadow. so the rim light is the sun, the fill is the sky and some reflected light from the ground.
color has always been the hardest of fundies for me so gotta keep practicing

[Anonymous No.2240777]

>>2240772
You can't really have the rimlight from the sun AND him in shadow at the same time. Either he's in shadow or is being hit from the sun. If the sun is rimlighting him then he would be in the open but backlit and we are staring towards the very bright sun which would change the scene entirely. Or it could be evening/morning and the sun is a bit weaker as it goes through a ton of atmosphere, and this also would explain the low angle of the light hitting him. You should find some reference photos (be careful with extreme light scenarios though as they often see differently than the eye) or reference paintings and see how the colour and light look there and then use to inform your sketch.

[Anonymous No.2240779]

>>2240777
Btw, for extreme light on portraits, Henry Hensche is not a bad reference. He painted a lot of backlit outdoor portraits with an emphasis on the colours and tones you get from it. While a photo would get washed out, he paints all the colours your eye would pick up on (exaggerates it a bit too so it's easier to see and captures the feeling more).

[Anonymous No.2240782]

>>2240777
>>2240779
sweet. thanks a lot anon!
pic related is more or less what i had in mind

[Anonymous No.2240810]

[Anonymous No.2240812]

>>2240145
didnt you already make your own thread for this?

[Manic No.2240817]

>>2240757
I get your logic. If I was doing cell shading that would definitely be my next move. I'm using a painterly approach so I can paint directly over the sketch.
>>2240763
Can't you study anatomy and color at the same time?

Thanks for the tips. Here it is with color. Did I screw anything up?

[Manic No.2240825]

>>2240817
quick anatomy overlay

[Anonymous No.2240870]

[Anonymous No.2240881]

>>2240722
Haha what

[Anonymous No.2240882]

>>2240377
not that guy but

[Anonymous No.2240884]

>>2240882
>>2240336
sorry meant to reply to you

[Anonymous No.2240893]

Does anyone have a good video that explains understandably how to render ? I can't really take a good grasp of it. Also, critique I guess.

[Anonymous No.2240898]

>>2240882
this would be a great study for soft and hard edge control, i.e. use 2-3 brushes 1 hard /1-2 soft

[Anonymous No.2240904]

>>2240702
you best be giving her a helmet son

[Anonymous No.2240914]

You can buy some videos on rendering at ctrlpaint dot com (4), I haven't looked at them though (because they cost). Considering i've had a good experience with the rest of them, I'm willing to guess it would a worth while investment.

There is probably some free resources out there as well.

[Manic No.2240917]

>>2240904
How to do color like this?

[Anonymous No.2240925]

>>2240917
hope fags like you die. asking questions is the worst way to get good.

[Anonymous No.2240930]

>>2240925
Making fun of someone who actually does art
nice work dick

[Anonymous No.2240936]

>>2240917
Have you read the sticky?

Yes: read it again

No: read it

[Anonymous No.2240940]

>>2240539

adding onto what >>2240596 said, go buy some pink water balloons from the dollar store and fill them up, then simulate your lighting conditions and take reference photos

[Anonymous No.2240941]

>>2240812
Don't think so

[Anonymous No.2240942]

>>2240925
That's the worst thing I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.2240944]

>>2240893

it's really one of those things that you need to draw from life to fully understand

[Anonymous No.2240947]

>>2240942
>>2240930
being too reliant is exactly why fags like you wont make it.

[Anonymous No.2240951]

>>2240947
>Daily reminder this board is a joke
I only stay because of the rare gem in a pile of shit. Every so often some actually insight pops up, and I hope for it every time I bother posting. I'm >>2240245, btw

[Anonymous No.2240952]

>>2240940
does this actually work dude??

[Anonymous No.2240955]

>>2240951
if you honestly think you're going to get good by looking at tutorials and receiving "insight" you really dont know what it means to be dedicated.

[Anonymous No.2240956]

>>2240020
Proportions are odd, also play with edges more, you have some super hard edges everywhere and its ugly.

[Anonymous No.2240958]

>>2240020
also, as a woman, for kicks.

[Anonymous No.2240962]

>>2240940
I would never do that kek
still wip, cant finish it today, my eyes are tired

[Anonymous No.2240964]

>>2240898
It would be a better study for my dick.

[Anonymous No.2240967]

>>2240955
>you'll never git gud by actually trying
I'm done with ya. Peace.

[Anonymous No.2240969]

>>2240962
looks pretty good, like the princess padme style hair

[Anonymous No.2240971]

>>2240967
Ask yourself why would most people be frequenting this board instead of actually getting shit done.

You got it, because they gave up.

Never listen to anyone's critique here, just grab what you need from the great resources posts and get out fast.

[Anonymous No.2240972]

>>2240962
Love it, what tools did you use?

[Anonymous No.2240974]

>>2240967
your current work already proves my point.

[Anonymous No.2240978]

>>2240969
thx, yeh, I was wondering what to do with hair, and I said, fuck it, padme thing, and then said, fuck it, it could resemble a kobra too kek, sadly, traditional media don't allow zoom for minimal detail
>>2240972
0,5 black pen and black bic, white pen and marker, nothing extraordinary, in fact, my tools are shit, everything is thick :(

[Anonymous No.2240982]

>>2240978
>my tools are shit
that's proof that the artist creates the quality not the tool, if I ever heard one.

[Anonymous No.2240986]

>>2240955
>>2240951
>>2240947
>>2240936
Guess who just read the Sticky, me.

It's a bunch of random art links. The other basically says learn to draw from your head.

Let's cut out the middle man and give people tutorials. Unless you're, pfft, actually drawing. Why not help people that are drawing right now so we can look at improvement instead of making fun of people.

[Anonymous No.2240991]

>>2240986
The problem with a tutorial is that you will do exactly as the artist does.
That's not how learning art should be. You have to develop your own ideas and ways how to achieve the things you want.
Not the preset path of another artist.

[Anonymous No.2240997]

>>2240991
Copying other artists is how you learn techniques. What you do with those techniques is what makes the different.

[Manic No.2240999]

This is another thing I plan to color. Somebody said it was well-drawn but boring. Is boring bad?

[Anonymous No.2241001]

>>2240986
Why can't y'all just do this:
>How do I hands
>Here! A tutorial on how to hands
>Thanks! Now I can practice hands

[Anonymous No.2241005]

>>2240999

its both

have you ever heard "boring" used to describe a positive quality

[Anonymous No.2241007]

>>2240997
you learn how to draw forms, you can draw everything /end

the difference between encouraging fundamental practices and relying only on recipes is huge
techniques are uninportant

[Anonymous No.2241009]

>>2240997
I don't believe copying other artists' techniques should go via tutorials, but by observing the artist and experimenting.

[Anonymous No.2241010]

>>2240999
>well-drawn but boring
Don't ask your friends for critique.

It's very anatomically off. Your proportions below the waist are beyond fucked.

[Manic No.2241011]

I'm done trying to color this. Moving on.

[Manic No.2241012]

>>2241010
Could you redline so I can fix it?

[Anonymous No.2241017]

>>2241007
>>2241009
Drawing forms is a technique. You can learn that from copying. Cause other artists do it and they do it well.

Observing the artist then experimenting maybe by trying it yourself. How is that different than copying?

[Anonymous No.2241026]

>>2241001
thats not how it works you fucking neanderthal.

[Anonymous No.2241033]

>>2241017
Copying itself is not bad, but my focus is on tutorials that teach you where to place the lines and colors step for step to achieve the same as the artist. Copying of for example Charles Bargue plates, nothing wrong with that. My point is that you make it your own, so you really have an understanding. A tutorial does not have that effect.

[Anonymous No.2241036]

>>2241033
or you know, you could just go fucking outside and study what you already fucking know. Color and value. actually study the highlights, midtones and darks. why dont you do that instead of pretending to git gud? oh, thats right your a fucking degenerate.

[Anonymous No.2241039]

>>2241012
How about you look at a woman, or even several women, and observe how long their legs are.

[Anonymous No.2241042]

>>2241036
>>2241033
I'm saying learn techniques from people who already know them. Why draw a tree when you can draw a landscape while practicing painting, lighting, and composition?

[Anonymous No.2241044]

>>2241017
thinking 3d is not a technique, painting with points is a technique while acrilic might be it's procedure, you're going full retard

[Manic No.2241046]

>>2241039
I don't see anything wrong. Is there really something wrong or are you messing with me?

[Anonymous No.2241047]

>>2241042
or why not go outside and read that.

[Anonymous No.2241050]

>>2241042
you don't practice all fundamentals in every practice, it always depends on what you're focusing, on what you're thinking, thats why copying other artists IN MOST CASES is delusional training

[Anonymous No.2241055]

>>2241046
>messing
Underage, retarded, or both? The right girl's legs are fucking huge. A redline would be wasted on you.

[Anonymous No.2241076]

[Anonymous No.2241078]

>>2240109
>>2240110
Thanks for the suggestions guys. It was my intention to make the atmosphere quite oppressive and mysterious, hence the dense framing and dark surroundings. Although I do agree the foreground could be livelier.

[Manic No.2241106]

>>2241050
>>2241055
So the anatomy can look bad if I call it composition practice? If you really think that way go read the sticky.

Anyway thanks for the advice here is a practice I did of something I already know. I didn't draw it well because it's just proportion practice.

[Anonymous No.2241114]

>>2241106
It's much better, so good on you.

[Anonymous No.2241123]

>>2241114
I'm gonna stop you right there. Compliments aren't allowed here. You better be rolling your eyes like a sarcastic tween girl or you don't belong here princess.

[Anonymous No.2241128]

>>2241123
>If nobody gives me ass pats no one gets to!

[Anonymous No.2241143]

>>2241123
tiptoppity kekkarooni

[Anonymous No.2241152]

composition of 10 simple geometric figures for class

shit quality, too big to scan

[Anonymous No.2241154]

This is what we except here

[Anonymous No.2241164]

>>2241076
way too busy with the designs man, I cant tell whats what. At the very least try to make the humans stand out a bit more so we can see what's going on

[Anonymous No.2241169]

>>2241152
You've arranged them along the x and y axis, but not z. They all are on the same plane, it is almost like a 2d sidescroller game. Try to think about depth more--could you have some far away and some closer? Could there be some more overlap between figures? Could their interactions be more interesting? They're also all viewed pretty much straight on. You don't have much foreshortening or looking up or down at any of them.

[Anonymous No.2241187]

>>2241169

thanks!

Yeah I didn't want to push myself TOO hard on this, time limit and all. Will definitely practice challenging the Z-axis in future comps.

>completed, more or less

[Anonymous No.2241209]

>>2240986
Kekerino. The sticky tells you what books to read, those books give you a way to get a REAL EDUCATION from master artists. You get 100s of pages of advice from great artists, not 3-4 pages from some deviant art tier artist. Some tutorials can be helpful but books are in a whole other dimension.

[Anonymous No.2241215]

>>2240538
Pretty nice, looks like you're getting your color theory down, but the rendering is very unrefined, and the structure is really lacking. The rendering is splotchy and all over the place because the structure isn't there to inform it. I'd recommend setting aside the coloring and painting to drill construction in lines.

[Anonymous No.2241221]

>>2240917
Looks like it's probably lineart on a multiply layer, a flat base color layer below the lineart, a colored multiply layer above the flats, and a highlight layer above all the layers. It's only my guess but that's what it looks like to me.

[Vinicam !cxvfgfboGQ No.2241222]

[Anonymous No.2241242]

>>2240825
Your anatomy is WRONG. You overlaid a poor representation of proportion, but you made the overlay fit the drawing, rather than the other way around, AND IT STILL DOESN'T EVEN FIT INSIDE YOUR FIGURE.

>>2240999
Your proportions are ridiculous, I'd suggest you make a new drawing rather than spend additional time on something that inaccurate.

[Walker No.2241248]

I'm a noob.
Do you like this?

[Anonymous No.2241249]

>>2241222
Vinicam, can we call you Handsome Hogarth from now on? Because that is a handsome.

[Anonymous No.2241250]

>>2241248

You have nice quality marks, now learn how to apply them to how the surfaces actually are.

>study study study

[Vinicam !cxvfgfboGQ No.2241252]

>>2241249

hahahahhaha... I had a good laugh with that, holy shit.

thanks, lol

[Anonymous No.2241260]

>>2241222
wow anatomy is fucked.

[Anonymous No.2241261]

Starting with values before any color is added, hoping to make a version where she's nude and another where she's wearing clothes.

I'm not sure if I'm transitioning to digital from traditional so well, but I'm doing my best.
I haven't completed any artwork in what seems like a long time and want to finish this quickly, yet I don't want to rush it.

[Walker No.2241265]

>>2241250
Thank you so much! I'll take your advice.

[Anonymous No.2241266]

>>2241261
why would you title that in chinese characters

[Anonymous No.2241267]

>>2241261
I like the blending of your values

[Anonymous No.2241268]

need to learn that soft glowy skin look

[Vinicam !cxvfgfboGQ No.2241275]

>>2241260

If you say so.

[Anonymous No.2241282]

>>2241275
He's right though, who the fuck has that many limbs? Is he part octopus or just some kind of biotech experiment?

But seriously, I do think the fists and the right closed hand look wonky, that hand especially.

[Anonymous No.2241283]

>>2241275
I'm not that anon, but I agree with him that things are not that great. Don't be so quick to dismiss feedback. To be honest I think the multilimb thing is making it harder for you to see the mistakes. Try isolating his legs for example in a single one of the poses, and you will see the anatomy and structure is not that great.

I also think doing those multilimb things are bad for developing a good sense of posing/gesture and weight. Hogarth did them as a way to show motion/how things can sit in space, and it was more for displaying an educational image than for his own growth. Jana and Algen took it from him and just did random poses with extra limbs, but they both abandoned that exercise after a bit--I think they came to the same conclusions I did about the ineffectiveness of it as an exercise. It's essentially a novelty thing with no real value and can actually be a bit harmful in a few ways.

[Anonymous No.2241292]

>>2241266
何故ならば、俺は日本語が話せますよ。

>>2241267
Thanks, I've been really trying to improve them lately. I need to work on my construction overall and finding a reliable process for completing pieces.

[Anonymous No.2241293]

[Anonymous No.2241296]

>>2241292
im glad you can speak mediocre japanese, fag.

[Anonymous No.2241298]

>>2241296
僕の文法は乏しいです
くたばれ

[Anonymous No.2241307]

heres this so far. prep for a painting.

[Anonymous No.2241313]

>>2241307
nice cock jizz is too thick i think

[Anonymous No.2241314]

>>2241298
go back to studying your silly anki cards. you aren't using Japanese particles correctly.

[Anonymous No.2241315]

>>2241313
lmao. word, i gotta do a new one. can't into cloaks.

[Anonymous No.2241317]

>>2241314
>僕の文法は乏しい
No shit?

>>2241307
>>2241315
Looks nice at the moment, I especially like the foliage but think the hair looks odd. Do you paint often? How do you go about doing it?

[Anonymous No.2241323]

>>2241317
you arnt impressing anyone not on this website.

[Anonymous No.2241325]

>>2241323
I'm impressed by your autism though.

[Anonymous No.2241364]

i'm going to compliment random people and tell them how good their work is, to give them a false sense of confidence in their artistic ability.

[Anonymous No.2241381]

>>2241364
I'm gonna be mean to people because I don't know them, instead of helping them improve, with all the free time I clearly have.

[Anonymous No.2241393]

>>2241381

[Anonymous No.2241400]

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241409]

Just put this together in about 10 mins. I'm not really an artist but what do ya think?

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241413]

FUCK, I tried to rotate it. Can't on my iPad. Still?

[Anonymous No.2241414]

I'm still pretty bad at this, but here's my first attempt at shading. what can I improve.

[Anonymous No.2241423]

>>2241409
>>2241414

Post in the beginner thread please

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241432]

This is fucking 4chan, why is there so many rules?I have seen pictures of a man fucking a snake and you ask me to please post in beginners? Critic my fucking drawing and stop being a stuck up cunt. And by the way this is a dying thread you pompous troglodyte.

[Anonymous No.2241433]

>>2241414
you really shouldnt be worrying about shading at this point, it looks like you got somewhat of an idea down of shading the shapes I guess, but the drawing itself is bad. Work on your drawing first, particularly the arms and armpit area, and your head. and that hand is just plain tiny. Use reference, and if you already are youre not observing well enough

[Anonymous No.2241435]

>>2241432
you've got a terrible attitude

[Anonymous No.2241436]

>>2241433
I'm not using a reference. I don't appreciate you judging my work. I came here to be critiqued, not judged.

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241438]

Don't critic my attitude, Picasso was probably a dick too. How do you like my drawing?

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241440]

critique, critic. Whatever.

[Anonymous No.2241443]

>>2241440
Spell it right next time please.

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241445]

Any other tips? You know, artistic ones?

[Anonymous No.2241446]

>>2241445
Yes, personally I wouldn't shade with squiggly lines it looks fucking Romanian. Just shade like a normal human.

[Anonymous No.2241447]

>>2241436
That was a critique, what the hell? I didn't judge you at all, I gave you advice. Either you're shit posting or you're serious and I feel sorry for you, either way you're fucked

[Anonymous No.2241448]

>>2241447
I was shit posting sorry. Thank for the advice though, seriously I will keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.2241450]

>>2241432
4chan has rules
each 4chan board has his own rules and culture and you have to adapt to these, no exceptions
first thing to do in this board is to read the sticky, so you know what the heck all this is about
with that attitude you're not likely to diggest any kind of critique, keep showing the nickname so we can recognice the idiot you are being

if you want critic, there you go:
tutankamon is shit, you did not construct anything underneath your lineart, therefore it lacks form (volume), it's completly shape, you're only thinking about 2D shapes and even on that you're failing hard because of not even properly knowing head and facial proportions, your brainless scratches to fullfill some shapes tell a lot about how vague and novice you're, you did not represent any kind of local values or light.
Even if the proportions are less fucked up, the same principles apply to your second attempt, you did symbol drawing rather than really suggesting forms. You did not even tried shading, you just pillow shaded random parts without any kind of value or edge control. You didn't trought about light position or intensity, shadow and light zones, casts shadows, you totally lack basic principles, fundamental understanding that allows us to represent beilable things on 2D.

Welcome to /ic/, now read the begginer thread so you can start grinding properly your art.

[Anonymous No.2241453]

>>2241409
overall the drawing is flat and boring. Generic advice Id give is general anatomy stuff. Those lines on the cheek arent really describing any forms at all, the ear is too high and looks really weird because of how dark those lines are compared to the rest of the drawing. The area where the nose connects to the brow should dip in more and make a more extreme angle. That whole back section of his head is just really weird, I have no idea what's going on there, lots of weird tangents that make no sense. And some general advice, use long confident strokes, it doesn't matter if the line goes where you don't want it to, erase and try again, you'll eventually get really good line work which makes drawings more interesting in-itself

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241458]

Finally, thank you a real yet heated judgement. And I must add that it is not Tut as you suggested, it is inspired by a bas-relief sculpture of Akhenaten. And the attitude is only a manifestation of your oh so welcoming attitude. Thank you for your critique. I will as you say "diggest" this. And as a send off, you really shouldn't type angry it makes you sound stupid.

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241460]

2241453, genuinely thank you.

[Anonymous No.2241462]

>>2241458
it looks like tut tho...

[Anonymous No.2241465]

>>2241460
by the way you can quote people by clicking their numbers on the post,

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241466]

Ain't that art? Open for interpretation? You say Tut, I say Akhenaton. We're both right.

[Anonymous No.2241467]

>>2241458
>Keeps writing about how to behave on 4chan
>Is clearly new to 4chan

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241468]

>>2241465
Lol, thanks again.

[Lennylemonhammer No.2241469]

>>2241467
I have been browsing for years, I don't often post. I often find,and I don't mean you, people on here to be snobby and dickish. Acting like y'all weren't noobs once too. Smh

[Anonymous No.2241480]

>>2241458
I'm not saying it must be tut, it's just a way to call it somehow and you know about which one I'm talking about.
I'm always supportive with newcomers at /ic/, which is fucking rare, but you came with the worse attitude possible on your third post, you still had luck

>>2241106
>So the anatomy can look bad if I call it composition practice?
read what is written kek

[Vinicam !cxvfgfboGQ No.2241537]

>>2241283
>Don't be so quick to dismiss feedback
>wow anatomy is fucked
>dismiss feedback

Right.

>It's essentially a novelty thing with no real value and can actually be a bit harmful in a few ways.

It's your opinion, I respect it but I don't agree with it. For anatomy in general it would probably be better to do different poses for every movement? Maybe, but I can see improvement in every new one I do and they're just a warmup anyway.

When I do those, in my mind the member is isolated. Anyway the first limbs are isolated because there is nothing there yet and I do construct then muscle by muscle most of the time. I tried my best to structure the legs in this kinda of foreshortening and it's far from perfect, I'm no master, so it's ok if it's not that great. The anatomy is half assed maybe, but I don't think the muscles are in the wrong positions.

>>2241282
Yeah, hands are a bitch. Even when I try to use mines as reference it ends up kinda wonky sometimes. Sometimes I just give up and go for the next one also. D:

[Anonymous No.2241548]

>>2241268
Really like the atmosphere!

[Anonymous No.2241571]

>>2240073
>>2240081
>>2240083
Good work, how long have you've been drawing?
Do you have more?

[Anonymous No.2241648]

[Anonymous No.2241670]

>>2241571
> how long have you've been drawing?
nice noobie question, it doesn't matter. don't think that knowing that information will help you get to that rather low level of skill.

[Anonymous No.2241677]

>>2241670
This is why faggots like you won't make it

[Anonymous No.2241710]

Can I get anatomy help with this? I know there are things wrong with the arms and legs, but I just can't tell how to fix it. Sorry for the instagram crap quality.

[Anonymous No.2241730]

>>2240702
Her torso is much much too long. You have the general idea of the shapes, but the proportions are not correct.

Also that "hiding one hand behind the back" thing...don't.

[Anonymous No.2241741]

[Anonymous No.2241752]

>>2241741
not even darks.

[Anonymous No.2241755]

>>2241752
meant to say enough

[Anonymous No.2241775]

>>2240870
flip the canvas horizontally.

[Anonymous No.2241783]

>>2240179
>>2240185
tell me where to follow you again

[Anonymous No.2241785]

>>2241783
roflcopter.tumblr.com

[Anonymous No.2241810]

>>2241752
>>2241755
on boith?

[Anonymous No.2241817]

>>2241810
i guess you dont know what darks are. im not wasting my time with you.

[Anonymous No.2241823]

>>2241817
dont give up on me senpai
did you mean the ao thing?

[Anonymous No.2241851]

idk what inktober is, but I did an ink drawing.
I didn't really have the right materials to pull this off but I think I managed. I had a .1 Micron pen, a brush pen, and a marker. So kind of limited in what I could do with the amount of time I had. I didn't capture his likeness particularly well but I'm okay with that. I'm used to erasing pencil until it looks right. Pen is kind of a different thing. You really gotta just go for it.

[Anonymous No.2241855]

>>2241851
>.1 Micron pen, a brush pen, and a marker
you weren't limited with anything, you just suck.

[Anonymous No.2241856]

>>2241855
that was quicker than usual

[Anonymous No.2241875]

>>2241785

fuck off

zoncanator on tumblr and DA

[Anonymous No.2241880]

>>2241783

Zoncanator on DA and Tumblr

[Anonymous No.2241892]

Something I did at work

[Anonymous No.2241902]

>>2241856
>I think I managed
Really?

[Anonymous No.2241908]

>>2241432
It's 4chan, not /b/

[Anonymous No.2241914]

Some anime art anon wanted to know which of these 4 horrible drawings you find better

Do your worst

[Anonymous No.2241915]

>>2241914
The far right looks the best and has the most personality. Albeit a creepy one.

[Anonymous No.2241921]

>>2241914
Stick with the more detailed styles, those anime drawings don't seem to suit you, they seem more generic

[Anonymous No.2241923]

>>2241915
>>2241921
Thanks, really appreciate it anons.

[Anonymous No.2241930]

>>2241915
>>2241921
Different anon here, it's two different artists.

It was a couple of faglords shitting up a thread. Dude on the left posted the anime girl and an octopus (pic related), dude on the right called him shit and posted those two.

Dude on the left called him a faggot, laughed at him, and told him to post that image on /ic/ so he could laugh.

[Anonymous No.2241933]

In the previous thread I was roasted for not correcting lineart (because it was too late),so here's messy sketch

[Anonymous No.2241939]

>>2241933
Really good stuff, I always envy those who seem to get proportions decently.

[Anonymous No.2241943]

>>2241930

The real question is

Is this anon better at art than Zero is at Smash 4?

Is he DA BEST?

[Anonymous No.2241947]

>>2241943
Let's not derail /ic/ with Smash bullshit please... the thread on /v/ is enough.

[Anonymous No.2241948]

>>2241902
really, mother fucker

[Anonymous No.2241950]

>>2241943
>ZeRo
>the best at Smash

He doesn't even play Melee.

[Anonymous No.2241951]

>>2241939
the bitch is like 9 heads tall. fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.2241956]

>>2241951
You are complaining about her height? Pfft, manlet

[Anonymous No.2241957]

>>2241950

He was something like top 40 when he did play melee

And I did say Smash 4, not Smash, you tard.

I'll stop shitposting now

[Anonymous No.2241960]

>>2241432
do us all a favor and fuck off

[Anonymous No.2242047]

[Anonymous No.2242055]

>>2241892
you should be fired.

[Anonymous No.2242112]

[Anonymous No.2242119]

>>2242112
bro r u serious

look at all the proportions like wat

[Anonymous No.2242125]

>>2242119
Ok I'll nail down better proportions anything else?

[Anonymous No.2242127]

>>2241221
pretty much correct. I just had a layer for line art, base color, shadows, and highlights. Line art and highlights were done with the pencil tool (pressure opacity and brush size). tbh I'm not sure why anyone would want to color like this though

[Anonymous No.2242136]

>>2242112
Proportions definitely, also just the shapes of things, a eye at side view does not look like that. Use reference.
Your lighting is confusing, I'm not sure where exactly it's coming from since theres a ring of sharp light towards the back, and strong light towards the front. And the nose suggests lighting from above? It's just all over the place fam.
I like your color choices, but your rendering needs work, especially the hair. With this, the edges of his face are rendered too sharply (his jaw mostly). Did you even try with the ear?
With rendering, you're not grasping the surface quality of objects, your skin is okay, probably the best understood. But the metal doesn't feel right, especially with those squiggles . The blue cloth feels too shiny to me and not properly textured. The headband thing looks awful, there's no way that a cloth headband would have a bright white highlight on it. I'm assuming his hand is in a leather glove, but it does not read at all like a leather glove (leather is a very hard material to render).
Your edge control is lacking, especially around the sword guard, glove, and headband. You added that white highlight as a cheater move, and you know that. Use masks, use transparency lock, use the tools you have to create defined edges instead of just painting a white ring around your guy.
Overall, You should do more studies of the things you want to paint. You're getting too far ahead of yourself, and that's fine if you want to waste your time-- but this would not be worth your time to fix and finish.

[Anonymous No.2242150]

>>2241164
yeah those were really rough outlines, I refined them more and filtered out three of them. still many to choose from and I want to do them all

[Anonymous No.2242155]

>>2242136
appreciate this man I wanted to try some stuff out but this is real good feedback

[Anonymous No.2242161]

Arms look like they match the body? Or do they look like arms mysteriously sticking out of somewhere without appearing attached to anyone?

Also does he look too much like a bum?

[Anonymous No.2242165]

>>2242161
I liked it much more without the arms. Before he looked like he was praying, now he just looks like a hobo.

[Anonymous No.2242171]

Whatchall think?

[Anonymous No.2242173]

>>2242171
Absolutely terrible, you forgot to add on the skin.

[Anonymous No.2242177]

>>2242171
Ink and graphite/charcoal do not work well together.

[Anonymous No.2242194]

>>2242171
Should I erase the diffuse shadow behind the head? Or erase just outside the line for a "halo" effect?

[Anonymous No.2242206]

>>2242177
I disagree, respectfully. I enjoy the hardness of the lines against the softness of the charcoal/graphite

[Anonymous No.2242235]

>>2242165

Yeah... yeah. Thanks for the honesty anon.

[Anonymous No.2242250]

working on a character

[Anonymous No.2242252]

>>2242250
wow i've never seen it before

[Anonymous No.2242253]

>>2241076
カッコイイこれ。

[Anonymous No.2242265]

>>2242252
thanks, my mom say's I'm pretty creative

[Anonymous No.2242310]

>>2240025
Abnormally tall.

Unless you're going for that. She looks like she's 6-7 feet in height.

>>2240030
Challenge yourself by drawing things at angles and different perspectives. Really flat. Not bad if you're beginning, though.

>>2240046
these look really cool. Keep doing them or at least stick to the style/mindset.

>>2240083
Nice texture and shading.

Jaw looks a little outstretched or offset, though. It could be something you see in real life, but a bit abnormal.

excellent work either way.

>>2240090
fuck that's beautiful

>>2240092
thinner lines. looser strokes, friend.

>>2240097
looks good to me. Nice.

>>2240118
I don't even know what gender that is.

>>2240145
I like it! Looks good so far.

>>2242250
Pretty sick

>>2242171
I like it. Keep working at it.

>>2242161
His left arm as some perspective and/or length issues.

Right is fine

>>2242047
That's expression, not art.

>>2241933
chest seems really massive (not just talking about boobs either)

She's also really tall if that's what you were going for.

>>2241930
Really sick looking.
Here's mine so far.

[Anonymous No.2242350]

>>2241670
Just because you have a mouth doesn't necessarily mean you have to use it.

[Anonymous No.2242388]

tfw I cant ctrl Z in real life

[Anonymous No.2242407]

[Anonymous No.2242409]

[Anonymous No.2242432]

>>2242310
Why are you offering critique? You should be in the beginner thread you faggot lol.

[Anonymous No.2242446]

>>2242409
update

[Anonymous No.2242466]

>>2242446
last one for the night

[Anonymous No.2242475]

>>2240956
you made it way worse and your technique is less than amateur

[Anonymous No.2242496]

>>2242466
i lied

[Anonymous No.2242515]

[Anonymous No.2242813]

photo study

[Anonymous No.2242851]

New thread:
>>2242849
>>2242849

[Anonymous No.2243523]

>>2240817
just kill yourself now, it will spare you a life of illusion and indignity

[Anonymous No.2243529]

>>2241466
One tip for you:
Get out and begone!

[Anonymous No.2243531]

>>2241851
wow, are his legs formed by cancerous grows or are you just fucking bad?

[Anonymous No.2243532]

>>2241851
>signing studies
cringeworthy tbh

[Anonymous No.2243535]

>>2242171
that is not how muscles work, have you ever seen a loose little rope hanging around under your jaw? also, it looks like you spent about 2 hours on this line drawing, which is not in the slightest how you learn anatomy, you just copied 1:1 (at leat you were trying) without any real thought

[Anonymous No.2244184]

>>2242432
Probably because it's a critique thread?

"you faggot, lol"

[Anonymous No.2244360]

>>2241710
Her back curves like an S, not a C.

The bend on her left leg makes it appear as if the leg is positioned towards the viewer, but her foot and it's profile come off as a sideways view.

Use the line from the larger portion of said leg to overlap the lower leg at the bend, and not the opposite, like you're doing.

Her right arm needs to look full, not stretching toward the elbow.

His hands have to be partly covered by the folds of her dress to make it look like he's holding her.

Otherwise pretty good looking.

[Anonymous No.2244603]

>>2240766
too many foreshortening

[Anonymous No.2244632]

>>2244184

not that anon but you're in no position to offer critique as 90% of that will expose your lack on knowledge. I suggest stick to beginner thread learn a lot from there and move forwards, when you got ok skills you can enter the draw thread.

[Anonymous No.2244814]

All feedback appreciated.

[Anonymous No.2244815]

>>2244814
Sorry, resized.

[Anonymous No.2245260]

>>2244632
>Elitism: the post

"Your critique doesn't count and you're not allowed to join X thread because I don't like your art."

Boy, you guys must a fun bunch to converse to at parties.

Ever consider that I honestly don't care about or adhere to your pompous elitism?

I may not be an expert artist but I can post and critique as I'd like and will continue to do so without a care in the world of your opinion.