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[Anonymous No.2192861]

Old one stopped bumping

previous thread: >>>2187641

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts
http://fusroda.com/resources/

>fellowBro's books :
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>Figure Drawing Tool:
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http://posemaniacs.com/

>Photoshop Brushes
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[Anonymous No.2192865]

>>2192861
Also made some hands (reference from my porn folder mostly) about 1-2 minutes each

[Anonymous No.2192891]

I've been doing these for some time now, but am I doing it correctly?

If not, what else can I do to improve my studying?

[Anonymous No.2192897]

>>2192891
i like most of them, maybe make some lines to indicate the different forms and contours more?
also try to get the head positions in better, its important too

[Anonymous No.2192900]

>>2192891
Keep going, you are making progress

[Anonymous No.2192902]

WIP but I know there are a lot of things that are wrong with this one so any critique is apreciated ^^

[Anonymous No.2192903]

New sketchbook back cover. I focused in too much in some places so it suffers in others - any critique and advice is heartily appreciated. Thanks all.

[Anonymous No.2192905]

never made a full rendered character before, thinking about doing it but its kinda scary

[Anonymous No.2192906]

>>2192902
What the fuck is wrong with you son?

[Anonymous No.2192907]

>>2192891
I think you need to slow down, take a step back and put more thought into your process for figure drawing. The faces you drew are generally decent, but the bodies are lacking greatly in structure. It feels like you don't quite understand the shapes you are drawing, and as a result the bodies look flat and all you're really doing is chickenscratching their approximate form.

Try out something like pic related. Using boxes like this should give you a better idea of how a body occupies a 3-dimensional space. Don't just use boxes for the head, torso and hips; use some for the limbs as well. When you feel comfortable with this, it should be relatively easy to lay down organic shapes onto the boxes.

[Anonymous No.2192910]

>>2192905
She is falling backwards a bit, be careful of the center of balance. Also the things in her hands are not clear at all.

[Anonymous No.2192914]

>>2192906
lol that's not a critique but there's nothing wrong with a naked trangender muslim woman :)

[Anonymous No.2192923]

>>2192903
practice hands more, the left is okay but the one on the right looks unnatural and claw-like
>>2192905
try to enforce the weight of her weapons by putting more tension in the arms
>>2192914
think about what you just posted and revise your life choices

[Anonymous No.2192928]

>>2192902

Go to porn thread. This is not tasteful nudity. It's just nasty gay shit.

[Anonymous No.2192932]

>>2192902
Please add a trigger warning next time, so people here don't get so offended

[Anonymous No.2192972]

>>2192923
>>2192928
>>2192932

lol this is 4chan faggots what did you expect?

>>2192928
Why is this not tasteful nudity? is not making anything sexual, it is just standing there, naked, with a smile on her face a dick between her legs. There are tooons of sculptures and paintings with nudes doing thing waay more sexual than mine and still it is seen as "tasteful nudity". If a nudes has boobs its ok, and if it has a penis it's ok too, but if it has both then suddenly is not tasteful.

I think that we need to see this nude as any other in art, ignoring the sexualization and foccussing on the beauty of the body or the idea behind the piece. And that's exactly what I wanted to show with this drawing. There are a lot of transgender people that feel unconfortable and even disgusted by their own bodies and they suffer a lot because of their families, religions etc. Trangender muslims exist I wanted to represent them as we do with non-transgender people. I don't see how that can be offensive to anyone but it wasn't the point anyway. It is just to give support to transgender muslim people by noticing their existence and admiring their beauty as I do with any other body.

So yeah, peace and love motherfuckah ^^

Also,

>>2192932
>goes to 4chan
>doesn't wanna be offended

[Anonymous No.2192981]

>>2192972
I won't comment about the nature of your drawing, but rule of thumb is if it's NSFW (tasteful or not), it belongs in the porn thread. That's just how it works here to my observation

[Anonymous No.2192982]

>>2192981
So this is also NSFW and should be in the porn thread?

[Anonymous No.2192987]

>>2192982
Yes

[Anonymous No.2192990]

>>2192987
WTF why? I mean, I know has nudes on it but there's a big difference between nudes and porn

[Anonymous No.2192992]

>>2192990
I'm just shitposting. Ignore the other nerds. No one actually cares if what you're posting is porn or not.

[Anonymous No.2192994]

>>2192992

Lol ok ^^

[Anonymous No.2192995]

>>2192972
this
this can't be serious.

My little internet can't be this brain damaged.

[Anonymous No.2193007]

>>2192995
clearly a clueless newfag. just leave them alone, they'll adapt with time.

[Anonymous No.2193008]

>>2192972

Lmfao. typical that this brain-damaged twat drew a terrible picture, defends terrible picture and goes off on a SJW tumblr-esque rant about trannies.

not_gonna_make_it2

[Anonymous No.2193010]

>>2192982
No
Come on, this is different. Don't be dense. Just use your judgment. People already have some expectations going into the porn thread so you wont get as much complaining there. Its about avoiding that. It has nothing to do with tasteful nudity or whatever.

[Anonymous No.2193015]

>>2193010
Yeah but that thread it especifically states that:
"This thread is dedicated to helping anons improve their erotic drawings and paintings."
And I don't want to make anything erotic, I just want critiques of the technical aspects of the drawing.

[Anonymous No.2193021]

>>2193015
Let's say you wanted crit on her genitals. Porn thread people are good at that, they'll help you more.
No need to interpret words so literally. You posted your pic here, look what happened. You can decide what to do next time.

[Anonymous No.2193025]

>>2192902
shouldve spent more time on the face instead of the dick, I get that its your fetish but still.
Its terrible by the way

[Anonymous No.2193032]

Don't really know what I'm doing with ink. Just kinda playing with it and hoping for the best.

[Anonymous No.2193037]

>>2193008
>SJW tumblr-esque rant

His mistake was thinking that it was necessary to do that here. Off of 4chan, where night is day and SJWs rule the land, you can get women or trannies or whatever it is you like to bend over backwards to cater to your insane fetishes if you use their language to request it. "It's not perverse to celebrate the body," "It's about taking charge of your sexuality," "Every body deserves to feel beautiful", all that bullshit.

Anyway, he's right. Slapping a penis on a lady might get you kicked out of a nightclub, but it's not enough to disqualify an illustration as tasteful.

[Anonymous No.2193048]

How do I add corkish texture to the rocks and what's a quick but effective way to do the leaves?

Any other criticism is welcome.

[Anonymous No.2193055]

>>2193048
>and what's a quick but effective way to do the leaves?
Jesus christ, this.

[Anonymous No.2193060]

>>2192932
>>2192928
>goes to a NSFW board
>complains about NSFW content

[Anonymous No.2193063]

>>2192972
hate to burst everyones bubble but anon is right there's no such thing as "distasteful nudity" people are free to draw whatever they like especially in draw threads the point of these threads are for critique.

I honestly don't see the point of porn threads when they serve the same fucking purpose.

Also why are you guys arguing about the topic and not giving critique? He was asking a for suggestions on how to fix it not on the subject matter.

and lastly whats with all the newfags?
people can post porn wherever they like as long as it's a pink board this isn't a blue board you faggots if you don't want nudity too fucking bad.

[Anonymous No.2193065]

>>2193063
somethng that i did out of boredom just now.
>fucking markers man

[Anonymous No.2193066]

>>2192902

Look how many replies you got, you succeeded in creating a controversial image. That's considered a key to success in this day and age.

Make more weird shit like this and get commissions from fetishists. i think you can make a lot of money from it, especially from moslem cucks, thats a niche market.

[Anonymous No.2193068]

Character design practice.

[Anonymous No.2193072]

>>2192865
>>2192891
>>2192903
>>2192905
>>2193032
>>2193048
Shit

>>2192902
Nice. This actually is Art.

[Anonymous No.2193075]

>>2193072
>art is objective

[Anonymous No.2193078]

>>2193048
a quick way is to just work with lighting and rendering but if you want it the easier and lazier way just make a leaf brush on photoshop and set the setting to scattered and put a lot so you draw like 10 in 1 circle. Then you just drag and use the same brush with lighter colors on where the lighting is.

just look for tutorials on leaf brush for photoshop there should be ones but I wouldn't rely on this too much.

[Anonymous No.2193091]

>>2193068
It's nice, Anon.

[Anonymous No.2193095]

>>2193078
i've tried that brush thing before on photoshop but didn't like it.

[Anonymous No.2193097]

>>2193095
Oh, thought that had the grass on it. Ah well. I didn't like how plastic it looked.

[Anonymous No.2193099]

>>2193068
noice mate

[Anonymous No.2193100]

>>2193068
noice
>>2193048
this is cute

[Anonymous No.2193107]

Is there a good resource for understand how the spine bends in relation to torso/pelvis rotation? I'm just trying to capture this understanding and I can't seem to find anything other than medical book illustrations, and they never show how the spine bends.

[Anonymous No.2193110]

>>2193107

This is the closest thing I've found in relation to subject I'm looking for. Still looking into it further.

[Anonymous No.2193113]

Git gud or go home

[Anonymous No.2193115]

>>2193113
go home

[Anonymous No.2193226]

Rate pls.
enough to get into art school?

[Anonymous No.2193230]

>>2193226
Extremely good work. Not even kidding. You should apply for that art school right away.

[Anonymous No.2193233]

>>2193230
Thanks man

[Anonymous No.2193239]

>>2193226
Jeez I nearly broke my browser opening that. Resize your images.

Anyways, it's got some pretty bad line quality. Why are you doing digital lines? Do this in pencil and it will look better and schools will give it more weight when considering you.

[Anonymous No.2193244]

Just completely butchered Natalie Portman.
I know the face shape is completely off among other things. This one took a while, I'm fucking bad with eyes. Got burned out and just finished.

Advice please?

(does this belong in a beginner thread? Didn't see one..)

[Anonymous No.2193246]

>>2193244
Read the sticky, you rotten asshole

[Anonymous No.2193247]

>>2193246
I'm just asking for criticism... I'm already following the guide on the sticky..

[Anonymous No.2193248]

>>2193226
depends on the standards really

just basing it on fundamentals I would say no
if they don't base it on fundamentals then I suggest you ignore my advice.

-line treatment isn't that good but at least it isn't chicken scratch.
-I don't see the construction of forms contours of the figure
- anatomy is wrong
- very unclean and looks rushed
- lighting is wrong
- no gesture or flow

you need to practice more OP
I suggest you go back and reread the sticky

[Anonymous No.2193250]

>>2193239
I have a shitty drawing tablet and its hard for me to trace the lines.
But serious question, the lines are mostly straight and I do feel comfortable doing them, but what else gives lines greater merit and quality?
Sry bout the img. size though

[Anonymous No.2193253]

>>2192897
>>2192900
Thanks. And yeah, I keep making huge heads and shrinking them afterwards...

>>2192907
Sounds good, will do for the next batch!
Should I go back to Loomis? I read it 5 years ago as an absolute beginner and didn't have any confidence to do guidelines, I rule-measured and erased a lot, got frustrated and gave up on this shape-building, too advanced for me.
But nowadays I've gained some confidence in my own pencil to push through a challenge and learned to eyeball instead of depending on rulers.

Also this is an older, detailed study.

[Anonymous No.2193254]

>>2193253
ah, português?

[Anonymous No.2193257]

>>2193247
I'm not the same guy OP but there's just too many things wrong in that drawing that the sticky will literally be the best answer.

- chicken scratch lines
- you can't make out the forms
- head shape is wrong( forms issue)
- the lighting isn't correct
- the shading isn't correct or it isn't gradual
- the rendering of the hair is wrong
- nose is wrong

I can go on OP but criticsm wouldn't help you right now just keep studying for now focus on basic shapes first and then come back.

[Anonymous No.2193258]

>>2193254
Not exactly.

[Anonymous No.2193259]

life drawing 1 hour

[Anonymous No.2193261]

>>2193230
>Not even kidding
Are you blind?
Even in a thumbnail you can clearly see that proportions are off, there are no sense of weight or movement and rendering is done in a very lazy way.
After opening the file you'll see that anatomy is oversimplified (especially of the neck, elbows, shoulders), that author didn't care about drawing face (did you know that some art schools require you to draw a bust as an entrance exam?) and that his line work is simply awful.
There's no chance he'll get into a good school by submitting something as unfinished as this.

Why do you think that his work is "extremely good"?

>>2193226
Find a drawing course that prepare students to get into art schools and try next year.
By the way: there's nothing wrong with going to art school, as long as your parents will pay for it.

[Anonymous No.2193262]

>>2193261
I'm just joking, you brain dead donkey

[Anonymous No.2193263]

>>2193244

stop doing portraits and learn to render cubes and spheres

god. i'm only replying becase you spam bad work so often.

[Anonymous No.2193264]

>>2193257
what's wrong with the lighting?

[Anonymous No.2193267]

>>2193259
Your mom have skinny legs.

[Anonymous No.2193269]

>>2193262
>I'm just joking
Stop pretending to be retarded, if you don't want to be treated like one.

[Anonymous No.2193270]

>>2193263
>you spam bad work so often.

I literally posted 4 different drawings on /ic/ in the last month.

I am on "Keys to drawing". I'm not on perspective yet. I just wanted criticism. Not "it's wrong, read things". I know it's wrong.

[Anonymous No.2193272]

>>2193269
Not my fault that you're mentally challenged

[Anonymous No.2193273]

>>2193267
the model was very skinny indeed

[Anonymous No.2193276]

>>2193264
well the same reason as why the shading isn't correct you didn't shade the thing properly because of lacking fundamentals.

I really can't help much since you're lacking too much on a lot of things as of now you're just drawing symbols

[Anonymous No.2193280]

>>2193270
That's the only critique you're getting, because you're trash. Now go redeem yourself by reading the fucking sticky.

[Anonymous No.2193283]

>>2193280
>>2193276

thanks bros :^)

[Anonymous No.2193288]

>>2193261
>>2193248
Its was done in under an hour(cca. 45min), and of course I wont submit this piece.
But thanks for the advice's, still hope that Ill get in.

[Anonymous No.2193292]

>>2193066
*vomits*

[Anonymous No.2193302]

[Anonymous No.2193306]

>>2193288
Most art schools I know are testing only your drawing from life skills: I would suggest doing some plates from Charles Bargue Drawing Course. This course explains (roughly) how to measure angles to make more accurate drawings - I believe it will be very useful for you.

[Anonymous No.2193308]

>>2193302
thanks for the dirtier fix, can't tell now.

[Anonymous No.2193322]

>>2193308
i have to fix some other things

[Anonymous No.2193336]

update

[Anonymous No.2193401]

I did some studies then attempted a freehand face on the bottom. Crits? Preferably on the freehand.

I'll be doing more studies.

[Anonymous No.2193403]

>>2193401

and here are the studies I did yesterday

[Anonymous No.2193417]

>>2193401
>>2193403
Ears next, please.

[Anonymous No.2193419]

>>2193253
Loomis could be a good refresher, yeah. You might want to look into his work about drawing figures in perspective, if you haven't already.

The study you posted here isn't bad. I actually find it a lot better than the original gestures you posted. If I were to point out one thing, it's that the step where you draw in all of the major bones is a bit superfluous, because you don't actually end up making any changes to the body in the inking step. You kind of force the bones to match what you've already drawn, which defeats the purpose of it.

Anyways, keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.2193441]

Another freehand before I get back into practice

>>2193417

God you're right, ear studies coming up next

[Anonymous No.2193447]

[Anonymous No.2193507]

>>2193007
You're right, but it's still hard to observe this kind of dysfunctional, and I want it to go already.

It's fucking wretched.

[Anonymous No.2193512]

>>2193072
It is art.

It's a very crude and poorly designed piece of shit art.

[Anonymous No.2193517]

>>2193259
Did she have tattoos?

[Anonymous No.2193536]

Some ears, the ones with red dots are freehand

[Anonymous No.2193544]

>>2193447
I like this

[Anonymous No.2193547]

>>2193441
>>2193403
>>2193401
you have really good colors and painting skills, I envy you T_T. But I think you need to work on your drawings more

[Anonymous No.2193550]

>>2193048
please help me with leaves

[Anonymous No.2193552]

>>2193550

[Anonymous No.2193553]

>>2193547

Thankyou! I'm spending today working on my human anatomy more. If you have an idea on what I should work on next let me know.

[Anonymous No.2193557]

>>2193536
Yes! Now you're doing ears! Thanks.

Even if you don't want to go full detailed, you can simplify the core parts if you understand the form.

This is how I usually do it, find yours.

[Anonymous No.2193558]

i put my heart into this.

[Anonymous No.2193559]

>>2193557

I remember seeing an anatomy book once where they drew the "Y" (which I just learned is the helix) of the inner ear first, so yeah I think that's a good method.

[Anonymous No.2193575]

looking for crits on this girls face, anything off?

[Anonymous No.2193580]

>>2193558
you better call for surgery. those eyes look so familiar..

[Anonymous No.2193582]

>>2193575
woops here it is flipped and resized

[Anonymous No.2193586]

>>2193283
you're too knew man, the problem would be that if you get a crit you might not be able to do anything with the knowledge. just draw shapes and try to shade them look for Scot Roberson, its okay to do portraits but they will all look like balls since you still symbol draw, consistency will pay off just keep trucking.

[Anonymous No.2193597]

>>2193575
i hope this is not the blind leading the blind but I think your nose and mouth could be shifted to the right a bit.

the changed one is on the left if it's not obvious..

[Anonymous No.2193603]

>>2193597
Yeah definitely you don't know what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.2193617]

>>2193580
haha, what could possibly mean

[Anonymous No.2193619]

>>2193597
she looks more retarded now

[Anonymous No.2193621]

>>2193597
You are right, but your fix is wrong. The face is asymmetrical on both.

[Anonymous No.2193624]

>>2193619
are you implying she looked retarded to begin with?

[Anonymous No.2193665]

>>2193624
Yes, please get some taste/look at real people.

[Anonymous No.2193666]

>>2193582
The mouth cast shadow is making her look like she had a stroke. It's just so harsh that it looks like her lips sorta, looks odd in any case. I would bring the form shadows around on her face to merge with that cast shadow. Also bring some of the darks into the rest of the shadows, it feels spotty now. And as >>2193597 said the nose is out of perspective (so is the mouth). They moved the entire thing over which looks wrong, the bridge is okay it's the projection out from the face that is wrong.

I did a quick paintover but it's not that good cause I was working such a small resolution. Only noticed now that you actually posted a bigger pic earlier lol, would have made my job easier and it a better paintover, but whatever. Oh also, be careful of having too many hard edges. Soften them slightly, at least in a few places.

[Anonymous No.2193745]

>>2193244
you already know the face is fucked up, look how much her face goes in after her cheek bone in the photo, now compare to your drawing. look at where her eyes are looking, notice how the back of the neck curves out rather than goes straight down. look at how her mouth is slightly open. redo it and pay attention next time

[Anonymous No.2193773]

>>2193536
>the ones with red dots are freehand
Did you used ruler of something for the rest?

[Anonymous No.2193788]

>>2193552
This is good. Can you please explain what you did and how you went from the first version to this one?

[Anonymous No.2193810]

Still designing this damn dryad character. It looks weird to me, can I get some input?

[Anonymous No.2193824]

>>2192923

Regarding
>>2192903 - the reference I used was Franz von Stuck's "Athena" - and I essentially used the hands exactly as they were in the original. Given the difference in materials I'm not sure if I could have conveyed form as accurately as he did, but thank-you for your advice - I'll focus more on that in the subsequent pieces I do.

[Anonymous No.2193832]

>>2192861
I am going through that 7 book list someone posted, but I like to paint some shit while I'm going through them.

I don't know a lot of Japanese.

[Anonymous No.2193841]

wip that will probably stay wip

[Anonymous No.2193845]

Getting back into doing gallery studies - this one is of William Beechey's "Portrait of a Lady." any more advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!

[Anonymous No.2193846]

>>2193841
thank god because its a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.2193847]

>>2193841

Too bad, looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.2193849]

>>2193847
Thanks. I had to draw her cause it's my ranger character in a video game. Anytime I play an RPG I fantasize about my character being cool.

It's not that I don't like this drawing, I just don't know if I'll still focus on it later. Thanks again, though.

[Anonymous No.2193862]

>>2193846
the jelly is strong with this one

[Anonymous No.2193867]

>>2193810
values maybe

[Anonymous No.2193890]

goblins

[Anonymous No.2193891]

>>2193890
I don't understand where the light source is coming from.

[Anonymous No.2193895]

>>2193891
ahh, yeah. I'll work it in. left is mostly a color test. thanks for the reminder man. when you dont for awhile you forget things lol.

[Anonymous No.2193896]

>>2193773

When I'm referencing I usually rule/compare distances between lines with my eyes. Makes drawing anything 10000% easier.

[Anonymous No.2193899]

>>2193895
dont draw* fuck im tired

[Anonymous No.2193920]

still stucked on this, gime me a bump

[Anonymous No.2193921]

5"x8" watercolor and guache painting, with some color correction and effects in photoshop.

[Anonymous No.2193922]

Try some beans

[Anonymous No.2193940]

>>2193922
Please kill yourself

[Anonymous No.2193949]

>>2193920
Do something else, it's destined to become a learning experience, it's not worth wasting another week on it, practice anatomy and composition as well as perspective and try again.

[Anonymous No.2193972]

I bought an Intuos Pro so I'm using photoshop instead of SAI for the first time in years and dabbling in custom brushes which I never used to do. I used to consider it cheating for some reason but everyone does it so.

Crit/tips on using brushes greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.2194020]

>>2193972
>filename
My autism is flaring up.

[Spy No.2194038]

Dont want to be that one faggot that posts stupid shit, but what do you guys think? I tend to just doodle shit so its kinda "big" for the time being.

[Spy No.2194042]

>>2194038
Fuck sorry its sideways. On my mobile.

[Anonymous No.2194044]

[Anonymous No.2194047]

>>2193972
That's a chimp, not a monkey.

[Anonymous No.2194053]

>>2194047
Hello fellow autist.

[Anonymous No.2194074]

>>2194044
oh I like these

[Anonymous No.2194076]

>>2193867
Thanks mate!

[Anonymous No.2194084]

>>2193920
What's happening in this scene? What's the narrative? Who's the chick? Where are we? What's that gradient background, is this outdoors? Are those pillows they're sitting on? Why are there pillows outdoors? Why is she sitting awkwardly pulling the pillow upwards? Why is she adjusting her shoe? Why is she angry while adjusting her shoe? Why doesn't the big cat mirror her expression - she dislikes us but the dangerous pet is very content with our presence?

What are we supposed to feel and why?

You have some compositional issues. For starters the girl's head blends in with the background. Squint or zoom out, and you'll find the entire head - arguably your focal point - is lost save for the occlusion shadows in the lower hair.

It doesn't look like you thought this through enough, nor did sufficient planning through thumbnails and exploratory sketches. It feels like you had a vague idea, drew it, then painted it. Very seldom will your first attempt be the best possible - experiment with your narrative and pictorial goals in mind.

[Anonymous No.2194107]

>>2193921
It's a pity the bathing suit is one large blob of the same colours. Add some volume, small creases etc. to make it look more alive.

[Anonymous No.2194151]

>>2193891
neither does he

[Anonymous No.2194175]

Muh terrible design

[Anonymous No.2194195]

>>2192902
Update bitches :D

>>2192906
>>2192923
>>2192928
>>2192932
>>2192981
>>2193010
>>2193008
>>2192995
>>2193007
>>2193507

Holy shit so many anons talking about the dick but not even one crit :/

>>2193072
Thanks you :)

>>2193512
I know, that's why I'm asking for crits.

>>2193066
That will be cool as fuck to get paid by drawing muslim cocks and weird fetishes. And yes, controversy is the key.

>>2193065
That's creepy, I like it

>>2193063
Ikr, it is a pretty shitty drawing and that's why I post it here, but anons keep talking about the cock instead of giving crits.

Again, all critiques are welcome and appreciated thanks.

[Anonymous No.2194204]

>>2194195
Learn basics first

[Anonymous No.2194208]

critq please

[Anonymous No.2194222]

>>2194195
Are you aiming to create a finished piece out of this? Do you really want crit?
Instead of this trivial update you could have addressed the things that anyone could see: the unfinished legs and lack of background or any convincing sense of where she is and what she's doing. The message is not getting through. Think about expressing/telling the narrative, through her gestures, facial expression, somthing. right now it's very dull.

[Anonymous No.2194224]

>>2193788
I rendered the otters (the most effective thing i did imo) and did some more work on the rocks and the leaves.

[Anonymous No.2194242]

>>2194208
Way too many folds in the clothing, it looks all wrinkled. The colours are pretty ugly too, really saturated skin, ugly green bg etc. Small hands, short legs, awkward pose. I would take a step back and try to fix these bigger issues before doing rendering. Also think of who this character is, how you want to portray him. He's in a plain suit. Is he military? The boots feel like that. Maybe give him some medals or insignia or something denoting his rank. Maybe have his posture a little more disciplined.

[Anonymous No.2194402]

>>2194224
I like the way you do leaves though. It's effective and it conveys enough of the pic.

[Anonymous No.2194412]

>>2194195
Alright, have crit.

As one anon said, it's rather dull. No interaction with the viewer except >>/pol/ purposes

Face: something is off with her left eye, her nose is non-existent.
Hijab: the texture of the fabric is not rendered. It doesn't look like it frames her face or that there is an interplay between the folds you drew and the way it drapes around her head.
Shoulders/body should be 2.5, maximum 3 times the width of the head total. She's too wide.
Her left arm looks like she has a taut biceps but then it disappears behind her back like a stump, with no anatomy or indication of the elbow. Worse on the right even.
You have drawn a standing belly on hips that look like she is sitting.
I don't know where your balls go when you sit, anon, but normally it is not on top of your legs with the cock on top of that even. The cock is drawn wrong. My cock isn't a cone lest time I checked.
And then of course the unfinished legs etc.

There.

[Anonymous No.2194427]

>>2194151
help me figure it out then. Would be beneficial.

[Anonymous No.2194428]

>>2193072
you're confusing art with stupid offensive, obvious and vulgar statements via images

[Anonymous No.2194466]

>>2194427
you should look into peter hans dynamic sketching and bridgman maybe, the thing is to see not in contours but in shapes and forms that are arranged in space, its hard to imagine light hitting something when you actually think of it as a 2D image.

[Anonymous No.2194467]

>>2194175
wow, you know youre shit. at least that is a step I guess

[Anonymous No.2194473]

>>2194466
will do. checking out peter hans lessons right now

[Anonymous No.2194486]

[Anonymous No.2194494]

>>2194038
the image is too poorly presented - you aren't likely to get a decent crit. Put some effort in and try again

>>2194044
this is nice, I love seeing unexpected complementary variations like that. The only thing that strikes me as odd are the two arms you have drawn, they come off as stiff and rigid in comparison to the rest of the flowy composition.

>>2194175
design for what? I'm not really getting the concept of the image - try breaking down your idea to simple visual language rather than ambiguity. I do like some of the subtle textures you have there, though.

>>2194208
I feel like you could benefit from some perspective studies

[Anonymous No.2194533]

>>2194195
her dick looks like it's in mourning

[Anonymous No.2194538]

>>2194020
>>2194047

I usually just name my filenames random shit, i'm well aware the difference between apes and monkeys I assure you. I would be autistic about it too

[Anonymous No.2194567]

[Anonymous No.2194587]

>>2194567
I like it

[Anonymous No.2194594]

I'm kinda stuck with doing the distant crowd in a way that doesn't look too over-rendered.

And I have no clue what's going on with the values at the ground in front of the emperor. Please help and crit.

[Anonymous No.2194598]

>>2194587
thank you!

[Anonymous No.2194609]

>>2194594
i don't understand why people who can't paint (or draw) always try to do these epic conceptart army scenes.

honestly you should scrap it and work on more basic lighting exercises. and use some references/ go outside...

[Anonymous No.2194619]

>>2194044
noice. you're way above my level, I can't say something is wrong or not okay with it.

[Anonymous No.2194620]

>>2194609
I can't scrap this when I've already spent so much time on it. I may be polishing a turd here, but I'd still like to do it as best as I can.

[Anonymous No.2194677]

>>2194620
Sunken cost fallacy.

Just stop on it for a few months and return to work on it once you have practiced lighting and painting more. By then you'll see lots of things you can fix very easily and it will actually save time and have better results.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2194751]

Just die in my fucking sleep already. I've wasted so much time on this and it looks like total shit, It's unsalvageable.

[Anonymous No.2194758]

>>2194751
Oh shutup faggot it looks pretty fucking cool to me

[Anonymous No.2194759]

>>2194751
Resize your shit, faggot.

[Anonymous No.2194764]

Young Garden
Acrylic on canvas, 30 x 24 inches
C&C welcome

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2194774]

>>2194759
sorry I did in the other wips I forgot this time
>>2194758
it loosk okay to me in full size but in the thumbnail it looks totally fucking retarded, I need to just keep working on the eyes and not get frustrated I think,

[Anonymous No.2194777]

>>2194764
Is Furiko japanese for Marceline?

I like your palette, but not your anatomy and ambiance, the character doesn't dialogue much with the BG. If you want to keep the anatomy simple, at least work on the silhuette, that square-shaped hand could have some curves above the fingers to suggest a grip.

[Anonymous No.2194779]

>>2194567
I don't

[Anonymous No.2194780]

>>2194044
Hey, I watched that Sycra video too

[Anonymous No.2194781]

>>2194779
i'm sorry

[Anonymous No.2194784]

>>2194781
IF YOU'RE SORRY THEN STOP USING MS PAINT'S DRAG AND COPY

I WANT TO SEE WHAT ELSE YOU CAN DO

[Anonymous No.2194788]

>>2194784
i'm sorry, i can't do nothing else

[Anonymous No.2194791]

[Anonymous No.2194794]

>>2192861
drawdrawdraw

[Anonymous No.2194799]

>>2194794
the anime chin/jaw looks out of place with that rendering style, but that's just like, my opinion.

[Anonymous No.2194801]

>>2194799
duuuuuuuuuuuudde

[Anonymous No.2194802]

>>2194799
>anime chin

Shut the fuck up

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2194809]

>>2194751
It's liberating when you fuck up a painting so bad that you can just go wild with warping and messy overpainting and shitty effects guilt-free. This turned out pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.2194814]

>>2194799

>Not denying a girl unless she has a qt3.14 Korean plastic surgery chin

[Anonymous No.2194818]

>>2194780
i was, and alot of others were putting single tone block colours into sketches before that video. i have watched it, but i have shit like this dated well back on DA to support what im saying now.

[Anonymous No.2194837]

[Anonymous No.2194841]

>>2194837
nice job with the scale aided lighting.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2194846]

>>2194809
made some slight changes, I'm actually going to go with this as my final style, I kind of dig it actually. I'm going to work on the background tomorrow, I might go for kind of a collage look as though this portrait was cut out of some magazine and added to a collage.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2194849]

>>2194846

[Anonymous No.2194888]

>>2194802
Do you get offended when something is rightly called anime?

[Anonymous No.2194893]

>>2194888
Yes. Fuck off. Not everything is a fucking anime.

[Anonymous No.2194906]

>>2194751
>>2194809
its also the most generic bowie pic u could pick from

[Anonymous No.2194915]

Just fucking shoot me

[Anonymous No.2194922]

>>2194594
mate this is great,finish it and dont be a faglord

[Anonymous No.2194936]

>>2192861
Did a political cartoon, which I don't usually do. Political opinions aside, I just want some critique on it on an artistic level. What can I do better next time? This is my first one.

[Anonymous No.2194955]

>>2194195
Update

>>2194222
>>2194412
Thank you very much that was exactly what I was asking. I'll correct all the defects and post it soon.

Thanks again anons ^^

[Anonymous No.2194956]

i painted some lilies

[Anonymous No.2194961]

>>2194956
I actually really like that
only if the background was less busy and more painted to the actual surroundings

unless you painted those in a snowstorm, but those dont come too often in august.
do you live in Antarctica by any chance?

[Anonymous No.2194966]

>>2194777
Thank you for the comment!

How about now? Is this better?

[Anonymous No.2194970]

did another random page from the blackbook.

[Anonymous No.2194973]

>>2194956
ABD by van gogh

[Anonymous No.2194992]

Made sketch, rendered in greyscale, hardlight layer with a bit of rendering on top. I don't really know. What could I do better?

[Anonymous No.2194993]

>>2194893
>Yes
So you're agreeing me that >>2194794 is an anime-esque image? Because it is.

[Anonymous No.2194995]

>>2194936
try making something with a message that doesn't use words. or if you're going to use words make sure the image makes sense without them first.

if you got rid of the words your image wouldn't have a punchline. it doesn't have one with them but that's not the point. try to make sure the joke comes before you're agenda.

[Anonymous No.2194996]

ayy fam, fuck my shit up, fam

naw but for real how can I improve my drawing without a reference? I feel like I am mostly off of symbol drawing, and I want to keep the same kind of cartoonish style but I also dont want my art to look like dawg-shit, knowwhatimsaying?

[Anonymous No.2194997]

>>2194915
draw the eyes first and space the rest of the face around them

... or not, I still suck at drawing

[Anonymous No.2194999]

>>2194997
draw the whole shape of the head first...

[Anonymous No.2195003]

>>2194996
>how can I improve my drawing without a reference

[Anonymous No.2195005]

Bust of Kalypso

[Anonymous No.2195007]

>>2195003
In my nigger language I meant how do I take a mental concept for a character and vomit them into creation upon my paper without needing to look up a similar character and steal their design, all the while trying to make it not look like a pile of shit.

[Anonymous No.2195014]

>>2195007

chill outttttttttttttttttttt

[Anonymous No.2195015]

>>2195014
bruv I was just rephrasing what I meant, no salt here.

also what the fuck i got candy as my capcha too?!

[Anonymous No.2195019]

>>2195015

im saying the solution to your problem is that its impossible not to steal

in order to critique your design i would have to redraw your mage witch

would you like a critique?

[Anonymous No.2195036]

>>2194494
>arms you have drawn, they come off as stiff and rigid
point taken, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2195038]

>>2195019
go for it fam, make improvements if you want even.
ily fam

[Anonymous No.2195071]

>>2195038

for starters

[Anonymous No.2195076]

>>2195071

This step requires suffering because im asking you to turn off your style for a while

style is infinitely more fun than volume drawing

[Anonymous No.2195084]

>>2195076

outlining in white with a midtone is the easiest way to train your eyes to see a midtone as natural and volume as natural

[Anonymous No.2195092]

>>2194992
>what could be better
the filesize?
Anyhow, I can't even get part of it on my screen, but something about the back of the neck seems off to me. But I can't say more than "off" unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.2195093]

>>2195071
top kek, it's already 6:1, you can't use head canon with the hat and blank spaces, that's the cheapest critic I've seen so far on this board haha

[Anonymous No.2195094]

>>2195084

and lastly, i think youre doing everything right design wise
git gud~

[Anonymous No.2195108]

>>2195071
>autism

[Anonymous No.2195118]

>>2195094
You made her into a fat midget, gj man. Aside from that it's so full of shit I don't know what to tell you other than please don't ever give advice again.

[Anonymous No.2195121]

>>2194992
overblown but hopefully it shows that you could take the lighting a bit further

[Anonymous No.2195125]

>>2194818
whats the video?

[Anonymous No.2195134]

>>2195125
he goes on to say "block in your base colour ect"
good advice, but almost everyone that has been drawing for more than a year does that regardless.
also he goes on to recommend restricting your pallet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQllLy_X4I

[Anonymous No.2195137]

[Anonymous No.2195141]

>>2194906
Yeah i know right. I even did it myself in one of my updates, i really regret choosing a really overused picture. Also the lighting in the reference was criminal.

[Anonymous No.2195144]

I finally drew legs that kind of look like legs! I live for small artistic accomplishments.

[Anonymous No.2195147]

>>2195144
Sehr gutt mein herr.

Saved because I struggle with this too and seeing the construction on yours helps.

[Anonymous No.2195179]

>>2194915
Draw bigger, sticky, beginner thread.

[Anonymous No.2195192]

>>2195137
update

[Anonymous No.2195193]

>>2195192
Neck is too long
Fabric does not fold and bend right, it can't be straight down until it meets the neck.

[Anonymous No.2195199]

>>2194997
beginers thread.
sticky.
god bless you.

[Anonymous No.2195206]

Started a new project last night any critique welcome.

[Anonymous No.2195207]

>>2195144
do you use loomis exclusively for your heads? For me it does not really work that well, most of the time I dont know how to imagine the lines bending around it or if they should bend at all, so I use a ball and the square bridgman style.

[Anonymous No.2195209]

>>2195206
I like the style but the neck is wrong. It doesn't taper out like that.

[Anonymous No.2195211]

>>2195206
you are putting too much time into needless rendering and not enough time into understanding fundamentals. You are symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.2195212]

>>2195211
The hair looks awesome though. But yeah, some fundamentals for the face would be nice.

[Anonymous No.2195217]

[Anonymous No.2195219]

>>2195209
>>2195211
thanks guys, I can agree on that the face is a little off. Is there anything particular that you could see me improving on?

[Anonymous No.2195220]

Back/collarbone I did in art school?

[Anonymous No.2195221]

>>2195206
you have at least 2 different angles in the thing, the hair looks like it is a wig that is glued onto her and the hair has no weight, her eyes are shit, you copied from a photo, you dont understand light and form, you dont understand angles and you dont understand how hair falls. if you want to be a photocopier at least do it right and not like this.

The forehead would imply that she looks downand her head is angled towards the ground because it is so long, the hair on the other hand flows back as if it was a hard mass already placed in a different enviroment or or glued on top of her cranium, one eye is too long even and the yes dont look like that, the angle of the eyes would imply a downwards motion of the head too the nose on the other hand shows from the front negating the perspective or tilt of her head.
the lips are frontal too, or else you wouldnt see the mouths opening frontal, the jaw line is waay too long the ears are typical for somneone who does nto know anything about anatomy or basically drawing at all. The mouth is off center too, the chin is too long compared to her face and does not work at all with tthe angle of the jaw, the neck does not go into a pyramid shape. The only thing this "project" proves is that you have a tumblr

[Anonymous No.2195222]

this is my first time posting o I might as well get the trial by fire soooo collar bone ^ also mine
#2 muscular system

[Anonymous No.2195223]

3/4 Northern Shrike (lol yeah I watch Hannibal)

[Anonymous No.2195224]

>>2195220
magnificent, truly a masterpiece

[Anonymous No.2195225]

4/4 my friends selfie that I drew

[Anonymous No.2195226]

>>2195222
AYYYYY, what the fuck is that?

back to the beginner thread

[Anonymous No.2195229]

>>2195224
Thank ya :D
>>2195226
You wanna actually make an educated critique or...?

[Anonymous No.2195232]

>>2195221
thanks very appreciated. I'll take all those nice words to consideration for my next pr-p...drawing.
:^)

[Anonymous No.2195233]

>>2195229
critique is wasted on you because youre too deluded to even realize how bad you are. If I would draw like that I'd never even so much as dare as uploading it here. you cannot draw a circle freehand, let alone copy from a photo. go ahead, try drawing 5 circles freehand and upload them, but no chickenscratch please.

[Anonymous No.2195234]

>>2195232
you can be as salty as you want and ignore it but the only one its harming is yourself. You are shit, and the earlier you realize that the better

[Anonymous No.2195235]

>>2195233
oh my god youre so rattled xD this is literally the first time/last time im ever going to be on this board. Just as suspected its run by pretentious fucks who think they can "win" art. have fun being mad the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.2195239]

>>2195234
not salty m8 just feeling the words
I know I am far away from mastering anything that some of you guys happen to be experts at. I feel you were the one getting triggered by the p word.

[Anonymous No.2195241]

>>2194486
Really like this one, no unnecessary strokes, even though it looks messy. Good feel of movement also. Dapestry also lovely.

[Anonymous No.2195242]

>>2195121
I'm the guy who posted the original. Jesus Christ that looks better. I guess I'll be upping the contrast. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.2195243]

>>2195235
Just don't be a faggot anon. Your stuff is beginner level. Revise the basics of anatomy, post on the beginner thread, learn to deal with dicks. I mean, these other anon is a dick, but he is still right.

[Anonymous No.2195245]

>>2195243
See, there's an actual critique I can actually get behind.

But this "HEEEER U DONT EVEN KNO HOW BAD U B FAG LOL BET YOU CANT EVEN CIRCLEDY DERP FREEHAND. GO AHEAD DO IT HERP! PROVE MY DERP!" like.....yeah awesome

[Anonymous No.2195250]

>>2195243
he might be beginer, but you're an asshole

[Anonymous No.2195258]

>>2195250
both seem like assholes tbh, i mean look at this strawman, embarrassing >>2195245

[Anonymous No.2195262]

I couldn't find the alternative thread, so I thought I'd ask here, sorry.

I feel I should foreshorten the hand some more, feels a bit small... thoughts?

Also, picture inspired by the lyrics and visuals of that MGMT song, Electric Feel.

[Anonymous No.2195263]

>>2195262
My phone is retarded when it comes to rotating, sorry.

[Anonymous No.2195282]

>>2195144
i've been checking out your tumblr for a few weeks now

good stuff, i really admire the way you can grind out so many drawings on a page. you'll improve quickly.

[Anonymous No.2195322]

>>2195263
>>2195262
Well, finished the lineart, so its too late to fix anything till the traceover, but critiaue is still welcomed for future pieces.

That goopy shit is gonna have a kaleidescope effect, so chances are I won't be painting this till I get my comp back.

[Anonymous No.2195354]

Hey dudes, I was wondering what you guys think of this style? I've been trying to step out of my comfort zone with these; even with cartoons I usually do semi-realistic.

[Anonymous No.2195361]

>>2195354
honestly i think its fukken great man. Would be great when applied to animation or comics.

Some people might shit on it for being a bit too tumblr but you have to consider where you are.

[Anonymous No.2195362]

>>2195361
>Too tumblr.

What does that even mean? I mean, aside from the trademark tumblr noses.

[Anonymous No.2195367]

>>2195362
dontcha know anon, anything thats non 100% loomis inspired realism or anime wankery is "tumblr shit"

[Anonymous No.2195369]

>>2195354
looks like everything that comes out of calarts.

i had a friend in school who made this. exact. shit. but better

[Anonymous No.2195370]

>>2195354
I like the colorful noodle guys! Not such a big fan of the more detailed caricatures though, but that's probably just personal taste.

[Anonymous No.2195378]

>>2195367
Ahh, alright.

Mind critiquing my anime wankery btw? I always seem to go ignored on /ic/. I guess it's cause I'm not good enough to draw attention, but not shit enough to get my shit fucked up.

I noticed a few minor mistakes myself already that I'll have to fix once I takevit o digital, and I felt her face was too simplistic, so I added some minor details and hatching to add a bit of volume to it. But that aside?

[Anonymous No.2195379]

Crit pls no bully. Bad anatomy and hiding hands is main weakness I know

[Anonymous No.2195381]

>>2195379

[Anonymous No.2195383]

>>2195381

[Anonymous No.2195385]

>>2195241
Thank you! :)

[Anonymous No.2195387]

>>2195381
Bad anatomy isn't such a big deal if you work it into a style. So long as you can do construction.

I like this one the best btw, especially since it was inked.

[Anonymous No.2195405]

>>2195387
>Bad anatomy isn't such a big deal if you work it into a style
God, please shut the fuck up and stop giving advice. You're going to actively harm this dude's development.

[Anonymous No.2195406]

>>2195378
It happens, I get ignored all the time.

You would have better luck over at the stylization thread >>2186863

[Anonymous No.2195426]

>>2195406
Ahh sweet thanks!!

I was looking for thst in the catalog jut couldn't find it.

[Anonymous No.2195427]

>>2195387
Thanks but it was just biro and
>>2195405
Is right in a way, theres no real excuse for bad anatomy. Unless it actually does go with a "style" but in the interests of learning its good to try and reach on point levels of anatomy

[Anonymous No.2195428]

>>2195405

i'm convinced this thread is filled with same-faggotry of epic proportions.

That muslim trans pic is 50% samefag. This is why we need IDs on this board.

[Anonymous No.2195430]

>>2195405
Bro, I've seen people with terrible skill get decent jobs because they have a unique style, and two, they're willing to put themselves out there.

As an artist, you should always seek to improve, but the best way to improve is to DO IT. Just draw. The more you draw the better you get. Sometimes you're better off making complete pieces that grinding out tons of exercises, main reason being is cause preparation can only get you so far, and the only way to fix probles, is to encounter them, and work on fixing them.

Too many people get stuck in grinding out exercise after exercise, and drilling Loomis into their head again and again instead of putting out presentable work, and aside from the fact that this creates a self made barrier from which you never step out of, also, disregarding petsonal style, or foregoing it, makes everyone's work look terrible homogenized. Critically great, very skilled, but with a lack of personal flavor. Oftentimes, clients will hire you based on your style. They'll look at your portfolio, and see if the type of work you do appeals to them. They're not gonna be looking at your 1000s of sheets of Loomis and anatomy drills.

[MsPaintGuy No.2195432]

[Ghostie !GHOStAikz. No.2195439]

I don't think this is my best, but it's the first thing I've drawn in months, how bad did I mess up?

[Anonymous No.2195468]

>>2195147
>>2195282
Thank you for such kind words~

>>2195207
I use the Loomis method for the structure, but only after I get the general shape down in a gesture first. Loomis doesn't explain the planes of the head very well imo, so it's good to supplement with other books. Bridgman and Hampton are both good in my experience.
It may also be worthwhile to look up some material on the Reilly head abstractions (I used the anatomy ImagineFX from the book thread)
They're very useful for finding feature and plane change placements.

[Anonymous No.2195470]

People Eater / mobile oil refinery vehicle from Mad Max Fury Road. Japanese ink & mechanical pencil.

[Anonymous No.2195474]

>>2193921

best in the thread imo. but i agree with anon, the suit as such an important shape not having any kind of form hurts the whole piece.

[Anonymous No.2195499]

>>2195071
youre literally so bad. and you try to give help

[Anonymous No.2195616]

>>2195468
i like your stuff, you mentioned a tumblr, can I have it?

[nightbus !!XqfMr2miSzK No.2195640]

>>2195221
holy fuck the salt
>>2195206
agreeing a little with what ^ said but you have the crosshatching shading on the face with basic geometric contrast and that goes into the hair. Its like 3 generic stylizations that would work separately but together seems a little convoluted and you're necessarily sure of what you're doing, it makes the crosshatching look like not enough paint between the lines on a canvas

[Anonymous No.2195645]

Muh tennis comics

[Anonymous No.2195660]

>>2192861
WIP commission for a buddy of mine. what do you think, /ic/? feedback welcome.

[Anonymous No.2195670]

>>2195660
IMO the face looked a lot better in the 3rd and 4th frames.

[Anonymous No.2195676]

>>2195670
now that i look at it, you're right. thank god for layers, lemme fix it.

[Anonymous No.2195692]

>>2195192
a lil more

[Anonymous No.2195695]

>>2195692
Is she suppsoed to be pregnant or something? Also the drawing is pretty off, I would get some ref and fix it.

[Anonymous No.2195696]

Hello /ic/. I'm relatively new to any sort of drawing. I've been sketching for a few months, but this was my first foray into adding color to one. And so far, I've been flying by the seat of my pants.

At this point, I really need someone with more experience then me to help tell me what I did right, what I did wrong, what I need to improve on, just some good ol' constructive criticism, really. Because as we all know all know, practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice make perfect.

Thank you in advance to anybody who is willing to help.

[Anonymous No.2195703]

>>2195696
attempting such an extreme perspective shows ambition, which is good. that said, everything else is terrible and you really shouldn't be trying pieces like this when you haven't trained yourself enough to immediately spot the glaringly obvious, like how her eyes are two different sizes.

back to fundamentals with ye.

[Anonymous No.2195718]

>>2195616
Thank you!
http://turr-nip.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2195723]

Hello /ic/. I'm relatively new to any sort of drawing. I've been sketching for a few months, but this was my first foray into adding color to one. And so far, I've been flying by the seat of my pants.

At this point, I really need someone with more experience then me to help tell me what I did right, what I did wrong, what I need to improve on, just some good ol' constructive criticism, really. Because as we all know all know, practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice make perfect.

Thank you in advance to anybody who is willing to help.

>>2195703
I did actually know about the eyes being different sized, but at the time, I wasn't very familiar with the program I'm useing(that was done about 2 weeks ago) so I decided to leave it as is until I could come back to it, and as it seems I forgot about it. Here is a fixed version of it.

Also, as I said, I have no idea what I'm doing, so "everything else is terrible", although it is a criticism, it isn't constructive criticism, and is of no help to me.

Again, thank you for your time

[Anonymous No.2195755]

>>2195723

>>2195723

Sticky.

If you dont care enough to read the sticky, you don't care enough to improve.

[Anonymous No.2195768]

>>2195695
how is it off

[Spy No.2195774]

>>2194494
To be honest, I'm not looking for "professional opinion(s)." I simply wanted to see maybe what I should do to improve on my doodles. I haven't been able to draw very much at all.
Pardon if I'm being stupid in what I was saying.

[Anonymous No.2195775]

>>2195439
Keep doing it m8, you can make it. Just don't give up.

[Spy No.2195776]

>>2195774
I will come back with something I was making for a friend.

[Anonymous No.2195784]

>>2195755
As I said earlier, I don't have much drawn art experience, so reading a page of general tutorials won't help if I'm reading up on the wrong subject. I was looking for some direction to help focus my practice, like "do I need to work on color", "do I need to work on shading", "what should I have show/not shown that I did or didn't draw from this perspective", "is there something I'm just completely not understanding that I should". Those are the questions I came here to get answered

If you don't want to help, if nobody wants to help, that fine, I can understand that. If that''s the case, just don't bother posting in the first place.

[Anonymous No.2195831]

>>2195768
not him, but arms seem fucked

[Anonymous No.2195832]

>>2195784

You need improve line shape and form foremost.

-Loomis: Figure drawing for all its worth
-Hampton: Figure Drawing: Design and Invention
-Norling: Perspective Made Easy

read those book.


You need skills in all of the fundamentals. Start line and gesture, then form and perspective, then rendering and color theory. You don't need them in that order, but you do need all of them.

Trawling /ic/ for redlines will teach you nothing.

If you really want to draw for yourself, check these resources, read the sticky, and hang around the beginner thread.

[Anonymous No.2195833]

>>2195831
elbow down yeah but elbow up they are fine imo

[Anonymous No.2195837]

>>2195723
not the guy who gave you feedback from before, but it truly looks off man. being unfamiliar with the hardware or software you use is irrelevant at this point. also, seeing as you asked to be spoonfed, lemme give you some clues.
1. stage left shoulder misaligned with arm
2. legs too large for the perspective aimed
3. pillow "puff" not well-defined
4. stage right hand shouldn't be there if upper arms can't be seen from this perspective.
5. proportions are a little wonky, look up references for this particular pose and perspective.

in short: back to the fundamentals. as much as you hate to admit it, you're still far below.

now i took the time to show you a what i meant in pic related, so if you reply with "this won't help" or "not the answer i'm looking for" like all your replies to other guys, then this isn't the place for you. all those people gave you the answer but you're just too lazy to put some effort into looking it up.

it's like somebody posts a pic and you asked for the source, then they answered "google image search, anon." and you said "that's not the right answer".

well, it is.

[Anonymous No.2195841]

>>2195723
>>2195837
a sidenote: here's a reference for the kind of perspective you're looking for. before you ask to be spoonfed again, the artist is as109 on pixiv.

look it up on fucking google you lazy turd.

[Anonymous No.2195844]

>>2195837
Uugh, I don't mean to sound like the elitist everyone thinks /ic is full of, but please take a look at your redline before you post it.
Just because you're better in your mind than someone else doesn't give you the right to rag on them. The intention may have been good, but you both suffer from the same chronic beginner issues and giving incorrect or bad advise can very much be toxic.
Please take a look at your redline before you post it, you have failed to address the key issues and should leave the critiquing to someone more capable of helping out.

As for >>2195723
your forms look incredibly 2 dimensional and your drawing is full of symbols. If I walked into this picture and looked at her from any other angle, would she pop out in 3d? Your biggest problem right now is a lack of understanding for forms. Understand how the basic forms work in space, learn how to control the illusion of 3d space in a 2d environment. Your leg and arm and head look like stickers pasted onto a piece of paper, their forms are bad and the whole thing lacks depth. Even before you go into anatomy, grind out basic cubes, cylinders, circles, etc. because everything you draw should be derived from it.

When anons tell you to read the sticky, read it. It lets you diagnose where you are and what you have to do to improve. Be honest with yourself on where you are, if you lie to yourself then no one can help you.

[Anonymous No.2195896]

NEW THREAD
>>2195890
NEW THREAD

[Anonymous No.2195913]

>>2195832
>>2195844
Thanks guys, this is exactly what I was looking for, an impartial eye, of someone who knows what they're talking about, to push me in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.2195927]

>>2194402
Ah, well what I mainly did was do an outline from the pic. Then I outline the brighter leaves. Do a base color, darken the dark areas and lighten the light areas. I also put the lines and leaves together because I dont like the outline look that much on plants when i draw them so I color them up.

[Anonymous No.2195976]

>>2195844
>>2195913
>samefag

[Anonymous No.2196819]

I am so bad at art.
I quit on this earlier today.

[Anonymous No.2198021]

>>2196819
Look up tutorials on construction.
If you have already, practice construction more.

[Anonymous No.2198314]

practice that went on far too long

I really want to get better at faces but... I feel like I'm just up against a wall I'm not improving very much at