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2189452 No.2189452 [Reply] [Original]

Post pictures of shitty artists who think they've improved

>> No.2189461

I would but I don't know your deviantart

>> No.2189462

dont you guys get tired of starting these threads? is your work much better than that OP? fuck off

>> No.2189464

This board is for constructive critique and actual discussion. Shitting on art or the sole purpose of jacking off to the idea that you're better is never what any serious person wants to see.

Stop comparing yourself to others and get back to praticing.

>> No.2189482

but they have improved

>> No.2189484

>>2189452
This isn't /fit/, go away.

>> No.2189733

>>2189452
Because you are just as shitty, but at least you know you are shit so you can feel better about yourself?

>> No.2189742
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>>2189462
>>2189464
>>2189484
>>2189733
>all these delusional butthurts
Fucking hilarious.

i bet such threads just remind you of yourself and bring bad memories

>> No.2189808

>>2189742
You need to make fun of Sonic the Hedgehog fanboys in order to feel good about yourself.

Take a moment. Stop. Consider what that says about you.

>> No.2189825

>>2189808
>need
not true. it's just fun.

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These always scare the shit out of me.

I'm not a great artist, but I usually feel confident of my improvement. Then I see shit like this.
They're confident of their improvement too. They really think that they've improved. What if I'm as delusional as they are and just don't see it?

>> No.2189843

>>2189839
What if you are already dead? What if this is Hell?

>> No.2189864

>>2189839
let your work be seen by someone who's not blind and is decent enough to tell you where you did bad without hurting your tiny feelings.

>> No.2189873

>>2189839
That's why you flip and make your artwork upside down to see it from a fresh perspective.

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>>2189828

What the shit. Ugh.

>> No.2189876

>>2189864

I don't have many resources for that, most of my friends blow smoke up my ass.

I try /ic/ now and then and occasionally get good critique, but a lot of the time this place is full of shitposters who just smugly inform you THAT you did bad, not what you did bad.

>> No.2189879

>>2189876
>most of my friends blow smoke up my ass.

I don't want to go off sounding like an asshole and also I am not in your shoes, but maybe you should get some better friends who know what's best for you.

>> No.2189880

>>2189452
So, ITT: "serious artists" making fun of hobbyist?

>> No.2189887

>>2189880

More like the mindful comparing themselves to the complacent.

Same as fat hate threads.

>> No.2189888

>>2189880
>OP's pic
>hobbyist

>> No.2189892

>>2189742
No, we're not butthurt, we're just a little too old for this kind of stuff. Take this to /pol/ or wherever you came from.

>> No.2189908

>>2189828
No I mean good god the art is mostly consistent between 2004 and two thousand fucking ten. That sprite it made back in 2004 is the only salvageable pice of anything.

>> No.2189915

>>2189908
It's probably a sprite edit.

>> No.2189934

>>2189915
Or stolen I guess

>> No.2189945

>>2189452
But that is an improvement. It's still not good at all, but it's better.

>> No.2189959

>>2189879

Many non-artists don't really understand how important constructive criticism is. They might like what you draw and go "that looks good!" and think you're being overly negative when you try to find flaws in your own stuff.
It's not like they're doing it to fuck with me, lots of people just don't feel comfortable criticizing even if I explicitly ask them to.

Maybe part of the problem is all the egotistical artists who take criticism personally makes some people afraid to give any criticism.

>> No.2189961

>>2189945

They seem pretty equally unappealing to me. I think the one on the left is actually easier to look at (and that isn't a compliment). Something about the colors on the right hurts my eyes.

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>>2189892
>No, we're not butthurt
starting with denial are we?
>we're just a little too old for this kind of stuff
>IM A GROWN UP NOW I DONT WATCH CAWTOONS!
year right. fucking clown
>Take this to /pol/ or wherever you came from.
what the fuck /pol/ has to do with exploring deviantard, you delusional autismosis?

>> No.2189973

>>2189892
>we're just a little too old for this kind of stuff.

Speak for yourself, these threads are a regular feature on /ic/, for better or worse.

Also it's cute that you think people ever grow out of a sense of smug superiority and trying to feel better about themselves by watching other people do worse. They don't, for the most part.

>> No.2189986

>>2189973
>trying to feel better about themselves by watching other people do worse

This works when you pick juicy targets, not literally mentally handicapped people.

>> No.2189988

>>2189452
Does anyone here actually believe the 2014 drawing isn't an improvement?

>> No.2189995
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This picture pisses me off.

>> No.2190004

>>2189995
Anyone else got the feeling the creator is some fat bitch?

>> No.2190005

>>2189995
it makes me sad when artists stagnate and even sadder when they seem to get worse

>> No.2190007

>>2189995
jesus, i thought maybe someone just flipped the years around, but no, this is her actual "progress".

>> No.2190009

>>2189995
>tumblr not even once.

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>> No.2190012

>>2189995
that artist is really bad yeah
but the people jumping on this giant hate wagon on them treating them like they're hitler is fucking scary, I see blogs dedicated to hating them, a lot of blogs.
peoples personal blogs having pages and pages blogging about how much they hate this one random person.

It's weird, it feels surreal, how can so many people hate this one very random person so badly. like even now it's weird look at these posts

>>2190007
>>2190005
>>2190004
They came literally a minute after each other, I wanna assume it's the same person commenting it and they just can't get over how much that hate this one artist
or the hate bandwagon for this one random artist is so huge many people will flock to one spot just to hate on them

it's crazy. this tumblr culture shits crazy.

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>> No.2190019

>>2189873
You draw the work upside down or you draw it normally and just flip it?

>> No.2190020

>>2190017
2015 is better overall but jesus she should've kept the 2014 face

>> No.2190032

>>2189839
Get critique, it's the best way. I actually thought I was improving for a year or so, but I added more details to the expense of fundamentals. I got destroyed on conceptart and now I've actually figured out what to improve.

>> No.2190036

>>2190009
I've literally watched a handful of some of my favorite artist stagnate when they got into tumblr. and some even changed their really good art into this strange simplified version of their art just to make it more "tumblr comfortable".

That site fucking ruined a lot of good artists because it's not good for criticism, even deviantart was almost good for it, it's because EVERYTHING you do on tumblr is published, so unless you can somehow pull an artist to the side and tell them they're fucking up, most people are just gonna stand back because they don't wanna be in the limelight and people watching that they're not praising the artists.

I've seen one dude criticize and artist and the artist's fans attacked the dude, went through his blog trying to find anything that made him look like an asshole. insulted the shit out of him.

There really needs to be a new art platform, since everything else is pretty much dead and tumblr isn't good at it.

>> No.2190037

>>2189839
If you're not confident you've improved then you need to solidify your understanding of what you've learned.
test your understanding of anatomy
test your understanding of proportion
test your understanding of perspective
etc.

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2190039

Woah, some people can't take any fun at all.

>> No.2190040
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Check this out.

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I save a lot of those.

>> No.2190043
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If you have a deviantART, be sure to watch the Draw This Again group.

>> No.2190044

>>2190017
dayum nice coloring

>> No.2190052

>>2190040

lmao 2015 her nose got chopped off and left a nasty scab

>> No.2190054

>>2189879
The issue isn't better friends. People who've most likely never opened a book on drawing or painting obviously wouldn't know how to critique these kinds of works. They can t just up and say "the anatomy of this is blah blah." or "the perspective is a little off."

What he could do is find local artists who do similar work and group up with them for help. Most likely around art schools or skills centers.

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>>2190039
>>2190040
>mfw

>> No.2190065

>>2190043
Well, this one actually improved objectively.

>> No.2190073

>>2190036
>even deviantart was almost good for it

No, it wasn't. Your hatred of Tumblr has crossed the line from common sense to batshit insane historical revisionism.

>> No.2190087

>>2190073
But I legitimately watched my favorite artists grow into becoming really good artists while they were on deviantart?
Just because you had a bad experience during the time doesn't mean it isn't what happened.

While this may be because these artists started on deviantart young and willing to learn, it doesn't mean that they didn't learn and got better during the time they were on DA. I WATCHED them get better.
This isn't a hatred on tumblr, you fucking moron, it's actual observation. I've discussed this with so many people and we provided sources with each other of the same experiences where we watched other artists , who we enjoyed during their deviantart days, stagnating the moment they got into tumblr.

This shit actually fucking happened, a lot.

>> No.2190090

>>2189995
Got worse lol

>> No.2190091

>>2190039
This has to be a joke

>> No.2190092

>>2189961
You can improve in unappealing ways bro. In fact, it happens to a lot of artists. They start with chibi shit because they can't draw actual people, and it can look charming and cute. Then they start trying to learn to actually draw people and it looks horrendous. It doesn't mean they're not improving.

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>>2190039
>15 years
>15 fucking years

>> No.2190096

>>2190039
<3 <3 ^^ Absolutely brilliant. Great progress m8! Your character design and STYLE have absolutely gotten so much better ^.^~~ be sure to follow my dA in which I primarily post bishounen yaoi ovo;;;;;; of my fav fanfic couple NaruXMario&Luigi <3 <3

>> No.2190099

>>2190093
>imblying this is real

>> No.2190104

>>2190087
>my personal experience that says Tumblr is a hugbox that ruins artists is correct
>your personal experience that says DeviantART is a hugbox that ruins artists is just your opinion, h8r

>> No.2190116

This thread gives me strange feels. It motivates me to get to work so I can improve my craft and it also terrifies me. What if I am worse than all of these troll pictures, and will not improve at all? What if I am delusional??

>> No.2190117

>>2190116
What if I'm the one for you and you're the one for me?

>> No.2190118

>>2190116
If you do work, you'll get better.
just be aware of what you have to work on and study that

>> No.2190128

>>2190116
All the examples in the thread are either fake, or they show some level of improvement. Every step in your journey, even the ones that judgemental faggots would mock, will help you become the artist you wanna be. Even the steps 'backward' give you experience and a wider understanding of yourself, your medium, and your goals.

If you draw, you will improve. We're all delusional, and people will do what they do. Don't let your fear keep you back. Draw moar

>> No.2190139

>>2189828
how is this even possible?

>> No.2190141

>>2190139
He's literally autistic iirc
and the dA hugbox mentality that sticks with an unfortunate few

>> No.2190143

>>2190139
It's amazing what you can't do when you don't bother to learn.

>> No.2190146

>>2190139
http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/kody-the-fox/

>> No.2190148

>>2189452
I don't need to post a pic of /ic/, we're on /ic/.

>> No.2190152

>>2190073
It's kinda legitimate tho. A lot of dA/CA artists who had fresh styles became homogenized cal-arts reject rednosers after joining tumblt.

>> No.2190153

>>2190152
>Tumblr sucks, therefore the original furry trace and recolor shithole must be good

Listen to yourselves. You're nostalgiafagging out over the website that codified circle tool inflation fetish porn.

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>>2190153
And Tumblrs better?
Alright.

>> No.2190217

>>2190020
Expand dong... no, eyebrow

>> No.2190220

>>2190214
You got caught admitting that DA was anything other than shit. I didn't do the same for Tumblr. Are you going to admit you were wrong, or will you project for a while longer?

>> No.2190226

>>2190220
>got caught
oh my god
how OLD are you?

>> No.2190241

>>2190226
Unlike you, I'm old enough to post here.

>> No.2190243

>>2189461
Rekt

>> No.2190249

>>2190220
No ones defending deviantart more than they're trashing tumblr, we get that deviantart is shit these days but years ago it actually had solid artists who improved while they were part of the community. I can't say the same for a good handful of popular tumblr artists but there clearly are some.
You also can't deny that because of the constant praise artists can get from tumblr, that their art wouldn't get worse or stay the same, though.

And you sound someone completely brainwashed by the tumblr circlejerk.
So please, go be retards with them, not here.

>> No.2190255

>>2190226
Nigger, dA>tumblr. No ammount of sonichu naivety can ammount to tumblr's cancer.

>> No.2190265

>>2190255
You're talking to the wrong dude
Since that was exactly what I was saying.

>> No.2190272

>>2190249
>I can't say the same for a good handful of popular tumblr artists but there clearly are some
>clearly there are some
>these two communities function identically and I'm just barely smart enough to recognize that, but I choose to pine for the older one because older things are familiar to me and change is scary

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>>2190272
dude stop posting you're retarded

>> No.2190281

>>2190278
If you're tired of being wrong at me, you can just stop replying.

...can't you?

>> No.2190283

>>2190272
>>these two communities function identically
They don't.
The very nature of the favorites at dA vs the likes at tumblr makes deviantart's exposition more meaningful.
When you get fans in dA, the fandom is about you. When you get "fans" in tumblr, the fandom is about them.

>> No.2190292

>>2190283
>When you get fans in dA, the fandom is about you. When you get "fans" in tumblr, the fandom is about them.

This statement is elegant and meaningless.

>> No.2190294

>>2190014

Jesus Christ those hideous lifeless fish eyes.

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>>2190226

>this furious back-pedalling

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>> No.2190308

>>2190297
Then: Deviantart days
Now: Tumblr days

Not even once

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>>2190308
I thought you were joking
then I checked

>> No.2190320

>>2190297
Is this for real? How the hell do you lose dynamism?

>> No.2190327

>>2190320
>shit copies of exaggerated shonen perspective done in eyebleeding neons
>"dynamism"

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>>2190012
>scary
>hate bandwagon
As far as I can tell, this is a site for adult people. Calling people "meanies" is not exactly helping your case as the art is still shit and funny as hell.
Leave your feelings at the door, you are the "Tumblr culture" for losing your shit for anonymous opinions.

>>2190116
Well, that may happen if you just draw what you want aimlessly and going with the flow.
If you follow the procedures and study the correct steps, there is no way you'll get worse.

>> No.2190331

>>2190327
It was still better then when he let American cartoons influence him

>> No.2190338

So many people getting butthurt cause people want to make fun of others. This is fucking 4chan. Nobody is nice here. Why would this board be any different? If you are really sick of shit like this, then hide the post and stop commenting on it.

Plus, the reason why I like /ic/ is because people are harsh on others and don't give a shit about feelings. I like when people make fun of shit work because I work harder to avoid that humiliation. Fuck you faggots

>> No.2190340

>>2190338
>This is fucking 4chan
Kill yourself retard
go back to tumblr

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>>2190338
Yeah every time I come back here, this has become a more and more sensible place.

Picked up this thread so I could see some of the old /ice cold/ kind of posts, but all I get is vegans defending shitty artists for no reason other than #stopbullying.

>> No.2190372

>>2190357
>>2190338
>haha we're so edgy m8 where my /ic/oldfags at
This is so embarrassing

>> No.2190386

>>2190372
>lol u guys just have nostalgia goggles on XDD
>not seeing how this board has changed drastically

>> No.2190390

>>2190014
>before LSD
>after LSD

>> No.2190392

>>2190390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YYpxvvQeMQ

>> No.2190401

>>2190304
Still shit, but there's some legitimate progress to be seen.

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>>2189828
Why is this always posted when a specific thread is open. Just why?

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>>2189864
I agree with this anon. Because if you don't have anyone to tell you that the stuff you make needs more work or anyone to put you in perspective. Or You couldend up like this.

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>>2189995
I never expected this image to ever reach on 4chan. Bless you.

>> No.2190568

>>2190012
The artist in general has a trashy personality and plays off as the victim because everybody is calling out on her shit. They didn't just randomly start to hate on her for no reason but to call out on her behavior and who she represents as and for. And people will get the wrong idea for whomever she is associated with because of her personality, attitude, and behavior.

>> No.2190572

>>2190020
True, she focused more on style and didn't stick with anatomical correct proportions, talk about potential wasted, she would get buttmad if you criticize her style.
Yep purposely making your art look like shit coated glitter is a suitable style and I'm glad you're satisfied with it. plez...

>> No.2190578

>>2190087
The problem with dumblr artists is actually their blind fans, they keep encouraging and asspatting them and not telling them to keep improving or do better, they don't put the artist in perspective to the point that if you criticize them the fans would disagree or attack, they need to understand that the artist are people and the too can be flawed.

>> No.2190673

>>2189995
the artist only drew half of the last one... the arms, legs, and hair-things are all duped and mirrored/rotated.

>> No.2190676

>>2189995
>the first one is decent
i wish that guy would go along that painterly thing, but no...

>> No.2190718

>>2189461
Kek fucking slayed lads amirite

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Okay, this guy posted on conceptart a few years back, and he's been turd polishing ever since. The only thing he's improved is the rendering.

>> No.2190730

>>2190010
I think this is pretty decent improvement for a year as a hobby. Sure the last one isn't great, but if the artist stays on this curve, it might be pretty decent in a few years.

>> No.2190731

>>2190357
>>2190338
it's not really about bullying. most of these artists are so shit that you really shouldn't care about them either way. at least if you are an artist with decent taste, you should look up rather than down. there is nothing interesting to see down below.
for various reasons, this thread is cancer to ic. it'll bring in more non artists and noobs, because those are the only people that would find this interesting,
there is nothing interesting about watching total hobby noobs fail, and i wouldn't care either way.


>>2189995
wow, this one really is sad. the first one had potential, you'd never think it would end up like that.
i actually have to doubt that they are made by the same person

>> No.2190751

>>2190146
Jesus christ. There are hundreds. This is some serial killer shit. I know this person is probably a teenager but he needs help. Those are the the drawings of somebody deeply psychologically damaged..

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>>2190568
>everybody is calling out on her shit

You wanna know why you're being cagey and vague about what "her shit" is? It's because "her shit" is also /ic/'s shit: she's a racist pedophile.

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truly amazing

>> No.2190804

>>2190761
Brilliant.
Shame about the art, though.

>> No.2190807

>>2190774

lmao dA is truly a hugbox. all those cancerous comments.

in the meantime i have 0 comments, 0 likes on my work.

>> No.2190819

>>2190807
like4like??
comment4comment??
Thanks for the llama!

>> No.2190834

>>2190819
Thanks for replying to my comment!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

>> No.2190845

>>2190036
They did the same thing on deviantart. The SAME thing.

>> No.2190846

>>2190834
No problem
Y r welcome

>> No.2190856

>>2190721
wow that's lame.
lots of fags would propably approve of this.

actually stuff like that really leaves me with an empty feeling. I think turd polishing is a perfectly matching word for what zounds of those passionless 'artists' do.
I browsed through deviantshit yesterday the first time since 2 years and it almost maked me vomit.
It was like a circlejerk of who draws the prettiest girls with the fanciest settings/accessoires/technique whatever.
The blatant placativity of those displaying their 'art' really made me sad.
It's like those people don't even consider drawing something else than pretty humans, cheered on by the blind approval of countless noobs who dream from drawing pictures as pretty as those 'artists' they admire.

girls. boys. stereotypically beautiful humans in different shapes and colours. some watercolor-looking technique here, digitally rendered style there, polishing turds everyday.
really I can't stand that shit anymore, I even think about it whilst drawing comfort zone girls.
fuck you people, where is your output to the world? that you can draw pretty humans?

>> No.2190861

>>2190856
sameface everywhere

>> No.2190877

>>2190856
>"WHY DON'T YOU DRAW ANYTHING EXCEPT PRETTY HUMANS"
>picture is a mermaid

>> No.2190884

>>2190761
I found one of the blogs dedicated to calling her out on 'problematic' stuff she's done, and holy shit why is tumblr so sensitive?

If she wasn't with the tumblr crowd, her actions would be considered totally normal. I suppose it's her own fault for getting involved with people like that, though.

>> No.2190885

>>2190012
>>2190568

Is said artist even more batshit and trashy than purplekecleon?

>> No.2190887

>>2190673
What do we even call it? Is it even considered a drawing? Most of it was finished with using copy and paste.

>> No.2190910
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>>2190761
I think all of this would have blown over if she deleted this drawing she did for Griddles (who in fact is a child molestor) in the first place, calling him an "old friend" but changed to "old follower", and didn't make the tweets/ a straw man comic that suspiciously related to the events that happened.

>> No.2190934

>>2190856
If you cherry pick the good stuff from DeviantArt it's not that bad. There are loads of artists with some nice work. The problem is that it's flooded with a fucking tsunami of bellends.

In this case, the guy polishes turds because details is the simplest way to impress noobs, as well as fan art.

>> No.2190938

>>2190214
Is that meant to be Kill la Kill?

>> No.2190942

>>2190856
If the mermaid was a moe anime monstergirl, you wouldn't think it was bad.

>> No.2190953

>>2189452
Hey, Mods.

Can we just ban these threads from now on, like the "Roll to Draw" ones?

They contribute nothing good or intelligent to /ic/, it's always the same content, and it only brings out the shittiest anons trying to get their cruelty fix.

>> No.2190956

>>2190910
is tumblr seriously saying that child molesters literally cannot have friends?

>> No.2190971

>>2189452
What is it about sonic that autists love so much