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[Anonymous No.2166430]

So I suck at textures among other things. Any guidance would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.2166438]

Original Photo

[Anonymous No.2166447]

>>2166430
>Asks for help
>Posts Sketch that is 3Kx5K
Nope, sorry.

[Anonymous No.2166450]

Here nigga

[Anonymous No.2166636]

>>2166430

I'm a little busy so I apologize for the short critique but:

Study how feathers extend from an owl's skin and how they interlace with each other(big offenders of "symbol" drawing include the back of the head wrapping to the front, and some of the outward protruding feathers near the beak). Executing textures usually requires an understanding of the material's deep structure.

[Anonymous No.2166785]

>>2166430
lay down the base value first and then start detailing

[Anonymous No.2166786]

>>2166636
lol not really, all he's doing is copying the photo
it's a question of technique, not understanding

[Anonymous No.2166837]

>inb4 draw the rest of the fucking owl

Now I don't know how realistic you actually want to go, but I think you would benefit from stylizing and simplifying the shapes and texture.
You texture lacks structure.
It looks more like noise.
Don't simply try to copy the detail.
Try to find out what's the gist of a certain texture, how to indicate it with a simple pattern.
Pic related.
It's basically just repeating lines of a certain shape, but it reads as feathers.
Also note how the texture is used to indicate form, getting tighter on the edges.

Look at engravings, etchings and comics to get an idea of how to simplify the texture.

[Anonymous No.2166839]

>>2166837
Here's my take on that owl, trying to simplify texture.
Now my example is far from perfect (really fucked up that black line on the face) but I think it gives you an idea on how you can approach a drawing like this.. I hope.

[Anonymous No.2166842]

>>2166839
Gonna post some more examples.

[Anonymous No.2166846]

>>2166842
Notice how the basic shapes of differently textured parts are clear to make out, basically each filled with its own texture

[Anonymous No.2166851]

>>2166846
And note the structure.
There's always little groups of lines going in one direction, like brush strokes.

[Anonymous No.2166865]

>>2166839
you forgot to put the wild trees n shit growing on top of the head

[Anonymous No.2167039]

>>2166839
How/At what angle do you hold your pen? I cant sem to get good linecontrol no matter what i do.

[Anonymous No.2167065]

>>2167039
I just hold it as if I'm writing, nothing fancy.
Not sure what you mean by linecontrol.
Are your lines jittery?
Try to make each line with a fluid motion.
In order to do that it helps to imagine your line on paper before you draw it, so you basically just have to trace it from your mind.
If you're unsure how something will look, just try it out on an extra sheet of paper.
It can also help to just warm up/ loosen up with some random lines before actually drawing something, just to get a feel for the medium.

[Anonymous No.2167186]

>>2167065
if i go slow, its all jittery, if i go fast its really imprecise. im doing the peter hans excercises, but if i try to not drawing with my wrist, i hold the pen like a retard - quite differentely from when i try to casualy draw.

ill give this owl a shot myself ans report back

[Anonymous No.2167267]

>>2167065
it sucks, its overdone, and doesent have the texture diversity like yours, not to mention the proportions are fucked

[Anonymous No.2167348]

>>2167267
It's not that bad, albeit a bit messy.
Don't rush when drawing, take your time.

[Anonymous No.2167378]

>>2167348
i have to say, this style is quite fun, tried another one - had my dog as a ref. i need to practice this much more. im quite new to using pen tbh

[Anonymous No.2167379]

>>2167378
here is the ref

[Anonymous No.2167544]

>>2167378
Aw, it's cute.

[Anonymous No.2167609]

>>2167544
Heh, thanks. Is there some book that wpuld teach this?

[Anonymous No.2167642]

>>2166786
muh copying

[Anonymous No.2167697]

>>2166786
>question of technique, not understanding
nigger what?

[Anonymous No.2168196]

correct me if im wrong, but arent people here doing comething completely different than what op asked?

>>2166430 = attempt to photorealisticly capture the owl

>>2166839 = attempt on stylizing and simplifying everything

[Anonymous No.2168275]

>OP asks for texture advice
>people start doing simplified drawings

shade some gradients then add darker sections of shading, like you would hair product commercial hair, darkest dark, to shadowed, to regular value and then stark white and then backwards out,

you basically have to draw patches of grass behind/infront of one another, or imagine darkening tints of glass behind one another

[Anonymous No.2168522]

>>2168196
>attempt to photorealisticly capture the owl
This was neither mentioned nor is it clearly evident from the drawing.
Besides, it doesn't matter.
I didn't show these examples, so OP could adopt this exact style (though it might have come off that way), but because they simplify texture, illustrating what's important about it.
>>2168275
>OP asks for texture advice
>people start doing simplified drawings
You're implying this is bad/ not helpful? Why?
Pic related.
>OP asks for form advice
>receive this simplified drawing
Would you not say this picture helps to understand the form, even when you are going for a realistic portrait drawing?
As I just said, the simplification of/ emphasis on texture in these images, is the exact reason why I thought they will be helpful.
Of course, if the OP, or anyone else for that matter, doesn't get anything out of this advice, they can feel free to disregard it entirely.
Anyways, it probably doesn't matter either way, because OP doesn't seem to be in our midst anymore.