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Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:22:27 2015 No.2160707 [Reply] [Original]

Help? I'm trying to do an anime background style and i dont like how it looks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:54:45 2015 No.2160737 File: 696 KB, 3250x1757, 220676[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "Anime background style" is merely a minor spin on realism in most cases, although it varies greatly as anime itself is a fairly broad style of art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:54:46 2015 No.2160738 pls respend

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:57:25 2015 No.2160741

>>2160737
Whups, I forgot to finish my post.

Your painting looks fine, honestly speaking. It seems to me that all it takes is more practice and you're good to go. I don't know what anime background style you prefer, but consider experimenting with all kinds of scenery (city streets, state fair, etc.) if you want to get a good grasp on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:57:28 2015 No.2160742 Using a soft round and hard round brush in the manner you have is very jarring and looks like balls. Note how your eyes are instantly drawn to the icicles adorning the roof. That shouldn't happen bruh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:57:32 2015 No.2160743 The house is not convincing me that its 3d, looks totally flat, where is the prespective? Wheres the horizon?

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 21:59:26 2015 No.2160744

>>2160707
It's very blurry in places, like you upscaled a low-res image, then painted on top a bit making a few areas sharp. It's a little unnerving. I would bring everything to the same level of finish and tightness.

Also not liking the value of the icicles, they should be lighter. The snow on the roof isn't really how it typically collects on roofs, and given how deep the snow is elsewhere I would expect the roof to be blanketed entirely. Watch that the three shapes aren't too repetitive or contrasty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:09:28 2015 No.2160753 >>2160742 Is it better to use hard only? I thought anime liked to alternate

Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:14:23 2015 No.2160755

>>2160753
You can use both but you have to be intelligent about it, try to use them in a manner that makes sense. In this instance you have a piece that is almost entirely done in the soft brush excluding some trees and icicles for no apparent reason.

Because the soft brush creates a sort of dithered "blur" effect you want to use that for something that 'isn't' the focal point. For example would make the most sense in this particular image to use the hard brush for the house which is the focal point and the soft brush for the trees.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:16:06 2015 No.2160757 >>2160755 That makes a lot of sense, thank you!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:16:34 2015 No.2160758 >>2160755 Alternatively you could use the soft brush for EVERYTHING because it's a background image anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:28:19 2015 No.2160771 >>2160707 What the hell is an "anime background style"? This has gone too far

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:29:25 2015 No.2160772 >>2160771 How do you draw anime hands?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:30:48 2015 No.2160773 >>2160771 I assumed he was literally drawing a background for an animation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 22:44:44 2015 No.2160783 File: 249 KB, 579x324, d84e88fa3152f01a113a184296ab4baa1369808004_full.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2160771 how can I draw an anime gorilla

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 21 23:05:46 2015 No.2160803 File: 212 KB, 1520x855, snohousestudy2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thanks for the tips on the roof snow. Still working it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:06:59 2015 No.2161441 Texture

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:47:35 2015 No.2161473 File: 87 KB, 952x536, NxBBFRw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2160783 like this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 20:11:26 2015 No.2161799 >>2160803 jesus everything is terribly flat and shapeless learn value m8 >back to basic push ups >those icicles are in a diff realm of lighting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 09:46:31 2015 No.2162362 >>2160803 I agree with the anon above, it feels a little flat. Set it to black and white and try to fix your values.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 15:19:33 2015 No.2162644 File: 242 KB, 1520x855, house-snow-bg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to give it more depth

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 16:10:54 2015 No.2162688 >>2160707 Learn to perspective.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 16:28:26 2015 No.2162704 >>2162688 What's the issue?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 20:35:06 2015 No.2163034 File: 323 KB, 1200x1200, New canvas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Two things OP. First don't be ashamed to use references. To use them is an skill on itself and you'll miss a lot if you don't use them.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 20:37:19 2015 No.2163037
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>>2163034
Second. Anime backgrounds are mostly paintovers with stylized filters in them.

Painting over is also a skill that one must work on. It is not cheating because it takes a lot of skill to make it look right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 21:31:26 2015 No.2163071 >>2163034 Wow man thank you! That paint over is incredibly helpful! Seriously, thank you and the rest of /ic/ for taking the time to help me!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 22:06:33 2015 No.2163091 File: 30 KB, 350x243, scarlett-girl-with-a-pearl-earring.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2163037 Anyone have a translation for this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 01:44:26 2015 No.2163286 >>2163037 Shit breh that's insightful as fuck. Love me some anime backgrounds as my desktop wallpapers. >>2163071 Seriously though can any one translate this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:12:10 2015 No.2164249 >>2163037 Here is the translation https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/261300?tags=shinkai_makoto

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:16:28 2015 No.2164255 >>2163037 go away kron, you arent justifying the fact you trace everything

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:18:33 2015 No.2164258 File: 287 KB, 900x1025, 1408692197515.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2164255 It is what it is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:22:47 2015 No.2164260 File: 386 KB, 900x1024, 1408695198626.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2164258

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 20:26:27 2015 No.2164264 >>2164255 is tracing bad?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:15:50 2015 No.2164294 >>2164264 bad if you get caught

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:17:10 2015 No.2164298 >>2164264 It's an ok way to learn, but it can fall anywhere from an insult to the original to boarder line plagiarism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 21:22:06 2015 No.2164303 >>2164264 its bad when you are popular and people are jealous of you making living doing it. its ok when nobody gives shit about you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:17:08 2015 No.2165179 >>2160707 >>2164264 Nips trace the shit out of back grounds, when you work 17 hour days you have no choice. It also adds a strong touch of authenticity if the location of your image is as big a deal as it is to the japanese.

Anonymous Sat Jul 25 17:34:09 2015 No.2165219
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>>2165179
All that aside i think anime background is usually the idea of trying to be realistic but with very good edge control and not too much texture,
above all it must not look like a painting with too much blurry mixing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 04:26:51 2015 No.2166612 >>2164249 Who da man? YOU DA MAN! thanks.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 04:54:46 2015 No.2166625
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A large majority of animation backgrounds aren't traced/paintovers. Just throwing that out there, cause the misinformation is kind of cringy. Shinkai is more of an exception than a rule.
http://www.kusanagi.co.jp/howto-/howt3-3.htm

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 04:55:54 2015 No.2166626

>>2164264
I don't think it's bad on a background and you don't try to hide it. People usually don't notice the details of the background, just that it's either there or it isn't and also if it looks bad. So why not just trace it? Looks more realistic and if you have permissions to whatever image you traced from, there's no problem.

I feel like this is the worst piece of advice I have ever given, but it's true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 04:56:10 2015 No.2166627 >>2164255 He didnt even trace, but alright.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 06:10:51 2015 No.2166664 >>2164249 I made a version without moonspeak to save in my tutorial folder, so I might as well share it here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 06:12:50 2015 No.2166665 File: 2.17 MB, 2754x2000, shinkaibg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2166664 fug, forgot to add file

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 06:17:05 2015 No.2166667 get

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 06:19:25 2015 No.2166668 File: 752 KB, 552x493, Laughing Whores.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2166667

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 06:33:44 2015 No.2166670 >>2166667 fail

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 06:49:23 2015 No.2166678

>>2166625
Do you honestly believe some tv animation studio has a higher background art budget than Makoto Shinkai? TV animation is all about saving as much money as possible on every step, but you believe the majority of them have some kind of ethical code to not save money on backgrounds. Are you an idiot?

Obviously the ones that look like shit, like the image you posted, aren't paintovers. Most of the backgrounds that look good are. 99% of realistic urban or rural scenes in tv anime for example are paintovers because it's just so easy to do considering all those locations are right there in their backyards. There's even this whole otaku activity in Japan where they search for the real life places of their favorite anime to visit.

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