Alternative Art/Stylization General

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Alternative Art/Stylization General Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:08:16 2015 No.2144672 [Reply] [Original]

"To any man who has slaved to acquire skill in his art, it is most irritating to have his ability referred to as a gift. Perhaps there is one genius in a hundred years or more who can achieve perfection by divine inspiration. I have never met such a man, and I do not know any successful artist who did not get there by the sweat of his brow."

Previous Thread: >>2138672

A general message to aspiring artists: "Lack of knowledge can be greater torture than the effort of acquiring it. When all is said and done, nature is your best instructor."

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun.

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized work in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

>Fresh off the boat? Read the fucking sticky!
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Animu Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/

Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

/ic/: "Daily reminder that Artists can now make up to 20k biweekly"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:41:06 2015 No.2144682 Why didn't you use kyle's drawings? They're clearly the superior choice for an OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:44:47 2015 No.2144686 >>2144682 i never see any mechs in the OP - also I have never made a new thread and I liked the eva its nice to spread the joy around, I am sure kyle won't mind

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 05:53:11 2015 No.2144690 >>2144686 You must be new. Next time lyrk moar and use a better OP. Consider this your final warning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 06:23:39 2015 No.2144723 >>2144682 >>2144690 wether you're kyle himself or kyle's pet, time to kill yourself. you're starting to annoy me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:59:42 2015 No.2144756 File: 176 KB, 1000x825, 124ever.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just post art

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 10:36:24 2015 No.2144862 File: 84 KB, 1317x766, 7mores.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2144756 Aye aye cap'n The last thread post/image ratio was 309/83 lets make this one slightly less garbo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 11:35:45 2015 No.2144905 File: 97 KB, 1432x992, 4 and a half more .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2144862

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 12:39:44 2015 No.2144973 File: 76 KB, 706x857, eggplant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 12:47:05 2015 No.2144979 >>2144973 Now draw her naked being fucked by her father, Gamagori and Ryuko

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 12:55:37 2015 No.2144983 >>2144973 Please stop drawing fingers as sausages.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:00:18 2015 No.2144987 >>2144905 these are really cool just a rando passing by /ic/ so no image to post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:17:47 2015 No.2145002 >>2144979 give me sec will ya

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:30:17 2015 No.2145018 File: 907 KB, 1000x1294, jason.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think this is where this belongs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 13:40:59 2015 No.2145029 leepictroll-chan.deviantart.com

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:02:47 2015 No.2145095 >>2144983 but its "muh style"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 15:58:49 2015 No.2145121 File: 106 KB, 1000x1000, ropes!!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried a new style, does it look too autismic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:04:10 2015 No.2145126 File: 759 KB, 1079x1077, Screenshot_2015-07-05-21-48-04-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No responses last post. Critique please

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:06:11 2015 No.2145127 >>2145126 its shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:14:18 2015 No.2145137 >>2145126 I find it ugly in a bad way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:22:26 2015 No.2145144 File: 133 KB, 1080x1080, 10311151_473932862781284_1009979105_n[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sketchbook

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:26:09 2015 No.2145148
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Crossposting from comic thread.

Tell me everything shit about it and I'll fix it, or at least try.

Problems already mentioned:
>Oven doesn't look like an oven holy fuck are you blind there's an oven in your house
>Panel isn't clear when shit is bursting out of said oven

Still unfinished for obvious reasons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:27:45 2015 No.2145149 >>2145018 Is he magnetically floating that pair of pliers/snips? It ought to at least make contact with the palm/thumb side of things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:30:40 2015 No.2145151 get in here and draw online on this infinite wall http://wall-of-fame.com/ see you there

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:33:02 2015 No.2145155 >>2145148 Is this a good thread to post my comic? It's 8 pages long and I don't want to create a new thread just for it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:36:23 2015 No.2145158

>>2145148
honestly the plots pretty stupid, and not in a fun way. it just looks like a bunch of randumb shit without much coherency.
I'd also say if you're going to do it in 4 koma format you should keep in might the stages.
of scene, foundation, climax, conclusion. but that's more in the comic part of it rather than the art style. and even if its no a 4koma exactly, comics typically follow that format unless you're doing a full story, in which case you would want a different style of paneling.
squared off panels like this suggest separate parts rather than following through, even though you can continue in that format is typically isolated parts which all follow the same format but share a story.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:37:17 2015 No.2145161

>>2145121
Focus less on trying new style and more on getting your humans to look at least somewhat accurate.

The major sore spot here is the inconsistent thickness of arms, noodlearms on the right, and the junction between shirt/pants.

However, as a tip, for what you appear to be going for, read google's design guidelines at https://www.behance.net/gallery/9028077/google-visual-assets-guidelines-part-1

Some of it applies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:42:44 2015 No.2145163 >>2145161 i noticed the arms were off, i know. but thanks for the link.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:48:52 2015 No.2145166 >>2145144 reminds me of endling

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 16:50:25 2015 No.2145168 >>2145161 >Focus less on trying new style and more on getting your humans to look at least somewhat accurate. /ic/ version of 'please kill yourself' aight anon, i'm on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:07:45 2015 No.2145183 What anime/cartoon is popular with the cool kids nowadays?

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:09:36 2015 No.2145186
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>>2145183
if you're looking for some good stylization little witch academy just released its second OVA and they have pretty nice animations if nothing else as well as pretty good stylization.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:12:52 2015 No.2145193 >>2145186 Wait seriously? First one was awesome. Link?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:18:50 2015 No.2145197 File: 378 KB, 1098x1538, Scan_20150707 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] other than it looking like shit, are there any glaring anatomy/proportion errors that anyone can mention other than the horrible hands.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:22:38 2015 No.2145202 >>2145197 Thigh/waist ratio is fucked. Ears are perhaps too high. Neck isn't centered quite right. Hair isn't symmetric, it's as if the right side was shaved away or combed over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:24:23 2015 No.2145207 >>2145186 Is that book torrentable or purchasable?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:24:40 2015 No.2145208 >>2145202 hair was intentional, helps show the shape of the head to see if it looks retarded. but thanks for the rest.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:27:49 2015 No.2145215

>>2145158
Yeah, the plot is pretty garbage now that I look at it.

It's supposed to be a continuous comic, not a series of 4koma, although there isn't too much that ties separate pages together in that case, which would explain why it doesn't seem to flow. Similarly, the stages aren't planned out nearly as well as they should be.

It's supposed to be the beginning of a "full" story, which means I probably shouldn't have used a 4 panel setup for the first two before breaking out of it, as that's inconsistent and messy.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:29:26 2015 No.2145216

>>2145208
>helps show the shape of the head
Draw from the inside out.

Skull and skeleton (or at least body structure) then layer a "shell" of hair over the top and manufacture flow.

Similarly you should layer clothes on top of a body's form, not draw clothes and try to show that there's a body underneath.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:31:02 2015 No.2145217 >>2144973 cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:35:23 2015 No.2145224 >>2145197 go to the beginner thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:37:23 2015 No.2145226 >>2145224 >implying the beginner thread is actually for beginners not him or anything but I feel like the beginner threads are key to fucking people's self confidence over since the people there are usually not beginners.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:42:26 2015 No.2145233

>>2145226
kek, complaining about beginners in a beginner thread? does that happen? i don't visit that thread though.
but it's still better than having them it in this thread. if you can't send beginners to the beginner thread, then there is no point to that thread.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 17:48:37 2015 No.2145241

>>2145233
beginner thread roughly translates to gesture drawing and low self confidence general with a few beginners who just get told the same generic advice without any actual criticism.
I don't think there's any issue with beginners posting in any thread as long as they keep the issue straight and to the point and aren't so terrible that its beyond help.
Like the one in question,
>is there anatomy issues?
response
>yes X, Y ,Z, maybe W
>okay thanks
3 posts and its done, could even cut down to 2 if we remove the thanks.
the bigger issue is that it is stylized and you should know by now the response that would get in other threads regardless of how well its done.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:00:52 2015 No.2145251

>>2145241
eh, i just can't take beginners seriously. and i can't take advice for beginners like >>2145202
seriously either.
it's not going to help them. generic advice like
>read a book
>get a sketchbook
>try to copy the drawings of artists you like
is probably better. specific advice is pointless, even if you tell them, they won't have the experience needed to correct their mistakes. it's completely futile.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:07:19 2015 No.2145255 >>2145193 its on kissanime my friend :^) EDIT: thanks for the gold, kind anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:07:43 2015 No.2145258 >>2145186 yo can i get these scanned anywhere? im a huge Yoshinari fag so id really appreciate it if anyone knew where i could get these

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:09:34 2015 No.2145261

>>2145251
>get a sketchbook
what type of advice is that? paper is paper.
and >>2145202
isn't advice for a beginner, its straight criticism on what's wrong and needs to be fixed. I don't see why you have this hate boner for beginners. "neck isn't centered" is a pretty easy fix and once someone is told what's wrong it becomes obvious to them.
I guess I'm sounding overly defensive here, and I get why someone would assume the beginner thread is a good place, but I don't see why you're being super elitest in a stylization thread of all places.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:11:07 2015 No.2145265 >>2145207 >>2145258 sorry I just get the images off google and boorus so no idea.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:14:45 2015 No.2145269

>>2145261
>and >>2145202 isn't advice for a beginner
well yeah, but the person in question ia a beginner. like i said, that anon won't be helped by that kind of advice.

>but I don't see why you're being super elitest in a stylization thread of all places.
i'm not really. you are the one telling me i shouldn't refer people to the beginner thread.

>what type of advice is that? paper is paper.
well, it's more about the habit of keeping a skeetchbook. a digital sketchbook is fine too. it's my way of saying "draw more and draw constantly"

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:25:20 2015 No.2145284

>>2145269
>my way of saying draw more constantly
okay I get that then, I just grew up drawing on whatever loose paper I could find laying about so I couldn't care less what it was. figured you were being retarded about sketchbooks in general.
>person in question is a beginner so it won't help
then how is referring them to the beginner thread any better? I doubt anyone who is asking for critiques on a specific portion of their work, regardless of skill, will ignore specific advice tailored to them. if a beginner comes in and asks for about a specific issue it typically means they know -something- is wrong even if they don't know what it is, and being told what that something is will help them far more than telling them just to stumble around in the dark until they find it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:40:27 2015 No.2145301

>>2145284
>..will ignore specific advice tailored to them.
it's not about ignoring, it's about where they stand as an artist. if you're a beginner, it's better to work on fundies rather than "correcting your mistakes". like i said, they don't have any of the experience needed in order to "correct their mistakes", even if you point it out to them.
it's like you said, they are stumbling in the dark. so even if you tell them the drawing is lopsided, they will still be stumbling in the dark. it's better to show them the general direction in this case.

look at this exchange >>2145202 >>2145208 >>2145216. in my opinion it's just pointless.

TLDR brah take it to the beginner thread. i can't deal with this. why does it even exist if you can't redirect people to it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:41:00 2015 No.2145303 >>2145197 Ssf is that you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:41:12 2015 No.2145304 >>2145149 I agree, I could have done that better.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:51:45 2015 No.2145324

>>2145301
its not always about correcting the mistake, sometimes its an issue they've been having and need clarification. for example for the longest time I had issues with color theory and it took someone beating it into my face that you don't overlay contrasting colors like that.
Its not so much correcting the piece as getting advice they can keep in mind for future drawings. being told directly that your "leg to waist ratio is fucked" is easy to keep in mind and fixes the problem almost immediately.
the exchange you pointed out wasn't even that bad, guy critiqued, other guy explained why a certain part of the critique was done that way, guy told him it was stupid and there are better ways of doing it, and it was done.
All I don't get is why you're so against giving beginners advice. It literally does no harm and it usually helps.
>they don't have experience to correct their mistakes
you don't need experience when told you're doing something wrong, you now know you did it wrong and you fix it in the future. you can critique someone's learning process as well as just their finished pieces.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 18:54:00 2015 No.2145326 As always more talking and less posting art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:03:42 2015 No.2145343 >>2145326 post your work fgt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 19:04:11 2015 No.2145344 >>2145326 no u >>2145324 well, let's not drag this out. there is nothing wrong with referring people to the beginner thread. you can do what you want and i'll do what i want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:12:19 2015 No.2145411 File: 539 KB, 936x950, Mionwip2d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wip, Wanted to try making a fan custom sprite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:16:39 2015 No.2145420 File: 1.26 MB, 1461x900, just.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:24:45 2015 No.2145430 >>2145411 you got the feeling of her character down pretty well. there are anatomical issues though. breasts are too low, the shape of her leg is also a wobbly mess. study those parts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:29:47 2015 No.2145435 >>2145411 that's not how anatomy works. that's not how clothing works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:29:49 2015 No.2145436 >>2145411 That better be a wet shirt, theres no way it would cling like that without serious weight, and its not too small/tight as the stomach area would be taut and would hang down from the furthest point away from her body

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:32:46 2015 No.2145437 File: 27 KB, 180x191, 1414919415695.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145436 Rule of sexy anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:38:18 2015 No.2145442 >>2145437 Rule of not trying hard enough to do the best IMO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:39:58 2015 No.2145443 >>2145437 >gets critiqued in /a/ >WELL I DON'T POST HERE FOR CRITIQUES STOP BULLYING ME >gets critiqued in /ic/ >I-ITS CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO BE SEXY! just stop. I'm assuming you traced and "verified" the anatomy on this one too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:54:48 2015 No.2145454 >>2145443 Do you intend to copy paste this post everytime I post here ? You said exactly the same thing last time. > Answering a critic by explaining the reason it got drawn like this is bad I'm taking in account what got said, same on /a/. Stay mad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:56:28 2015 No.2145458 >>2145454 There is no rule of sexy you idiot, there are mistakes, and some would argue it would be 'sexyer' with these fixed to demonstrate how firm and robust her breasts are. Stop being a cunt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:56:47 2015 No.2145459 >>2145411 looks shit tbh

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:58:55 2015 No.2145460

>>2145454
>I'm right and you're wrong :^)
no, you fucked it up and it was explained why it was fucked up. this is why no one takes you seriously, because you're too caught up in "muh style" because you think you're somehow skilled because you got an A in art class or someshit.
I suggest you ditch that mentality or just stop posting. /ic/ is for critiques, if you want mindless dick sucking stay on /a/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:15:56 2015 No.2145500 File: 594 KB, 1211x1966, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could I have some feedback on this drawing I made please?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:21:44 2015 No.2145505 >>2145500 your lines are incredibly heavy. try to draw with a lighter touch. your wrists are too thick and you need to practice drawing hands more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:32:40 2015 No.2145513 >>2145430 I don't think her breasts are too low.

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:35:41 2015 No.2145516

>>2145500
Face is better than most, which is good. Hair and ribbons appear to flow naturally.

Arms are slightly thick but that's personal preference.

I feel that her left arm/shoulder may be placed ever so slightly high. Try tracing her shoulder joint through her body and I think you'll find it lands a tad lower.

Although the ribbon/knot on the bottom half is centered on her spine, the ribbon on the top half of the swimsuit appears to be more to her right.

As the other anon mentioned, wrists look like they were taken from TF2's Pyro. Additionally the thumb section of the palm on the left hand is slightly fatter than it should be compared to the "main" palm.

>>	Pixel !liV7ZvK9aE Tue Jul 7 22:43:54 2015 No.2145526 File: 754 KB, 1242x1920, tumblr_nr5e7engIB1qd273ho1_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:47:53 2015 No.2145533 File: 39 KB, 624x444, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145526 >>2145528 you can delete your posts but you can't hide your trip

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:49:31 2015 No.2145534 >>2145533 Yeah, I know, but might as well anyways. I fugged up, I got it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:56:51 2015 No.2145540 >>2145533 At least he tried, there are people on this board RIGHT NOW, that won't delete their trips.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 22:57:44 2015 No.2145541 >>2145533 Who gives a shit.

>>	DemiZen !YESueGotH6 Tue Jul 7 23:08:00 2015 No.2145548 >>2145541 /This It's /ic/ unlike the other broads where its unnecessary to do it. no one cares even me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:09:55 2015 No.2145550 >>2145505 Ah, I'm starting to see it, thank you, I will do something about my lines and hands. (I do have a habit about going over my lines ^^; ) >>2145516 Alright, I will do something about it, thank you for the feedback.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:51:16 2015 No.2145573 Is furry art allowed here or is that gay as duck?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:12:44 2015 No.2145587 >>2145573 It's still gay as fuck, but post it and we'll critique.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:19:14 2015 No.2145588 >>2145573 If it's porn post it in the porn thread instead.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:32:56 2015 No.2145593
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>>2145587

Alright, well thank you.

So I know there's a perspective issue with the bench and also there's probably some anatomy issues. One thing I wish I was better at was my line quality. Is there a program that lets you draw stable lines, because drawing even from a sketch my lines are somewhat shaky.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:36:02 2015 No.2145594 File: 90 KB, 384x384, yeah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeah?

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:41:49 2015 No.2145603
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Not even sure how to categorize what I do. No problem with realism, I just don't have it in me to draw more of it.

I end up with stuff like this. Been doing at least one a day for a year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:47:22 2015 No.2145611 File: 2.10 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And here's an assassin that enjoys lollipops.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:49:31 2015 No.2145615 File: 1.71 MB, 2000x3133, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And here's an assassin that enjoys his lollipops.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 00:54:26 2015 No.2145617 File: 1.39 MB, 2064x2802, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And one last batch from today's sketchbook. This one clocked in at 7 minutes. No clue why he has a flashlight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:24:33 2015 No.2145635 >>2145594 Neah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:54:00 2015 No.2145657 File: 781 KB, 1000x2318, Scan07072015-1000-LR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stuff from yesterday - trying to stay focused today

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 01:57:06 2015 No.2145658 >>2145657 You really like that face angle dont you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 02:39:15 2015 No.2145690 >>2145658 Holy shit, I didn't even notice. And I just drew something else at the same angle. Thanks for the heads up

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 02:42:55 2015 No.2145697

>>2145690
Don't trip m8, 3/4th is generally seen as the most flattering angle and if you sample 1000 pieces of figurative art, no doubt the majority of faces will be that way.

Not to say you shouldn't practice other angles, just don't stress a ton about it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:10:02 2015 No.2145728
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>>2145454
>still a worthless cunt who can't handle critique

Seeing you in /ic/ is annoying as fuck. Specially considering you never fucking learn. Just kill yourself and be done with it. Stop searching for people to suck you off. You'll never be as good as Houtengeki. Not with that shit attitude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:16:48 2015 No.2145730 File: 45 KB, 1109x935, Wherethehoesat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just drew this with a mouse. I guess ill most a few of my arts since it's ''stylized''

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:17:35 2015 No.2145731 File: 79 KB, 480x800, 1435887700366.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145730

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:18:30 2015 No.2145732 File: 130 KB, 640x640, 11376101_981038318594774_490925844_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145731

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:19:03 2015 No.2145733 File: 145 KB, 640x640, 11195797_1616803905272898_1108871726_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145732

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:21:30 2015 No.2145736 File: 110 KB, 640x640, aquaters.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145733

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 03:43:32 2015 No.2145755 >>2145144 I do like the shapes anon, also the dubs

>>	Cuestionador Wed Jul 8 04:16:44 2015 No.2145792 File: 65 KB, 720x960, dibujo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some shit i draw recently.

>>	Cuestionador Wed Jul 8 04:22:11 2015 No.2145798 File: 47 KB, 720x960, harley.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another one...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 04:28:49 2015 No.2145804 >>2145657 It's good to use refs, but try to mix it up a bit. you'll never actually see things in 3d if you just copy.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:40:36 2015 No.2145839
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soooo turns out I wasn't really in the mood to draw afterall. I drew one thing, then I dicked around in PS. I am not sure what to do with these scanned sketches. I want to practice something... but I don't know where to take them.

The linework is too shoddy to actually use - its as if i'm just making a shitty PS coloring book...

>>2145804
>try to mix it up a bit
still trying to get warmed up after a month of no drawing - I have been hitting the comfort zone pretty hard the past 2 days. I did some incredibad warm ups with no ref that I won't post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 05:49:53 2015 No.2145850 File: 155 KB, 900x1300, ttt2-anna-williams-costume.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145839 >octo girl Reminds me of pic-related. Don't know if you're a fan of Ito Ogure but I'm a fan of his work and Anna is my Tekken waifu.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:25:10 2015 No.2145875
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>>2145850
Yup, I combined your pic with pic attached. I was supposed to stop at just the sketch... but then I didn't feel like sketching anything else so I just polished a turd

>Ito Ogure
Not familiar, but thanks for the name!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:48:14 2015 No.2145892 >>2145657 >>2145839 your headshapes and positioning of the eyes are still so bad. don't always let the far eye wander to the side like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 06:55:06 2015 No.2145893 >>2145892 I'll work on it. I should have fixed it when I did the scan. My sketch turns into a garbled mess when I try to fix it in pen - maybe I'll try to do it in pencil first.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:32:59 2015 No.2145915
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>>2145728
why are you even so mad kek. you got hostile way too quick, is this some kind of jelly or something?

>>2145893
it's not a small problem, it's a fundamental problem i see with your faces.
it's kind of hard to explain, and i don't know exactly to draw like you do, but these are the main issues
>the eyes slide off the side of the face
>the face is almost completely round
>your faces take up too much space in relation to the head.
it may just look like a style thing (and it is, to an extent), but the way you draw it makes it hard to place the features correctly, you probably also have issues drawing the side and 3/4 view right? this is the reason why.
it also makes it more difficult to place and organize the hair. and the way you place the neck and ears don't help either.

be more aware of the sides that the face has. a small face is what makes certain styles so appealing.
again, a concrete tip is to avoid making the far eye touch the outline of the face too easily. for example it normally shouldn't touch in 3/4 view. (depending on the style)
if at all, it should only happen in an almost profile view.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:56:11 2015 No.2145928
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>>2145915
>>2145893
>>2145657

to add another thing, when drawing the 3/4 view and other angles, you tend to keep the placements as if it was the front view.
it's pretty much part of the same problem as the issue in my previous post.
again, be more aware of the different planes of the head.

i tend to draw a line signaling the center of the head/spine (see red line). that helps me be more aware of which side the character is facing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 07:57:35 2015 No.2145930 File: 67 KB, 1600x256, 1362968864561.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145928 >>2145915 use this as a ref

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:08:38 2015 No.2145941
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>>2145915
>is this some kind of jelly or something?

Smurf's skill level is nothing that warrants jealousy. /ic/'s porn thread has artists that shit on him in terms of understanding fundamentals. I'm "mad" because his attitude is still shit and never changes. He's always making excuses rather than doing what he needs to do and study fundamentals. Fucker needs Loomis but is too caught up in "mah style" garbage while not having the fundamentals and understanding to make it convincing in the first place. Hence, why his work is trash. But he refuses to acknowledge that despite multiple people telling him the same thing. People graduate art colleges and earn degrees with god awful art and he thinks good grades in an art class validates his shit work. Maximum kek.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:33:46 2015 No.2145957 >>2145593 hips are too wide, there is quite a gap between the legs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:41:16 2015 No.2145962 File: 273 KB, 560x560, 1431399195673.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145957 >hips too wide now uh.. let's not, uh, get too hasty here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:47:25 2015 No.2145966 >>2145962 I think he means in relation to the thigh diameter/volume like a clothes hanger with 2 pipe cleaners twisted on

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 08:54:28 2015 No.2145971 File: 345 KB, 616x950, unfinished croc-guard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just colored for fun, though the lines aren't even finished yet.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:00:31 2015 No.2145976
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>>2145962
stop thinking with your dick anon. that gap is still pretty bad.

wide hips are ok, but you still need to get the crotch area right.
i'm not good with wide hips, but it should be something like this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:09:29 2015 No.2145982 File: 970 KB, 1280x1570, 100%-hips.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145976 Isn't that the point of furry? Having impossible proportions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:11:49 2015 No.2145984 >>2145982 haha

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:15:08 2015 No.2145986 >>2145982 i'm just talking about the area of the gap though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:16:34 2015 No.2145988 >>2145971 i like it

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:19:53 2015 No.2145991
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>>2145941
You're getting mad again by yourself besides taking most of your "facts" from your ass.

I'm studying loomis.
I'm more generally studying fundamentals.
I never said that my level is good enough, neither I talked about some shit with good grades in a prepa school meaning anything.

I'm improving but my actual level is far from the one I would like to get. I also usually listen to critics, and there is nothing wrong with not agreeing with them and explaining why.

So please take your "he refuses this and that" shit and shut up already you mad stalker. The one with a terrible attitude here is you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:31:41 2015 No.2145997 File: 286 KB, 500x513, img0012.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145986 I agree that it looks broken a bit, but it's not a reason to go narrow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:34:41 2015 No.2146002 >>2145997 i'm not saying the gap doesn't exist. it's just that if it's too big, your bowels will fall through. ..unless you have an anus made of steel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 09:45:46 2015 No.2146008 >>2146002 Just make thighs bigger then? I'm not talking sunibee levels big, but you know, the gap will be smaller and outer silhouette will be the same.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:04:47 2015 No.2146018

>>2145997
>>2145593
Lets not kid ourselves here it has nothing to do with sexy or fetishism, he just didn't know how to foreshorten the leg right in this angle
so he drew the leg the same angle as the other one and placed it far to seem like the legs are open so it ended up with a deformed pelvis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:07:41 2015 No.2146020 File: 113 KB, 900x619, cherry_background_fini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2144571 done so far i guess

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:08:47 2015 No.2146021 >>2145997 rhis is shopped r-right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:11:26 2015 No.2146024 File: 265 KB, 1000x665, NMR-011.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146021 Anon, hips come in all shapes and sizes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:13:07 2015 No.2146026 File: 295 KB, 1408x1400, 1360820705590.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146021 I'm not sure, just threw in a random example from my old 3dpd folder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:16:44 2015 No.2146029 File: 323 KB, 570x577, spoon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146020 So instead of using a spoon as reference you decided to draw grey play dough Here's the reference, go change that shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:22:04 2015 No.2146031 >>2146024 i wonder if implants are involved with those types. how does one even live with an ass that huge? or does it just look that way because of her pose and because she's pressing her ass on the ground?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:24:21 2015 No.2146035 File: 78 KB, 1340x1000, DSC_9566.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146031 That's Nicole Mejia and as far as I know her ass is real. She's just /fit/ as fuck Legday all day every day

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:38:07 2015 No.2146044 >>2146035 >fit more like fat tighs. i don't get it, how does one get a slim waist but have such a fat tigh and ass? is it genetic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:40:21 2015 No.2146046 >>2146044 It's the angle. Look at those disgusting arms and that upper torso.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:50:05 2015 No.2146061 File: 86 KB, 640x640, 10995089_1601940443375816_158192978_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146035 I don't think you know how muscles work Anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:51:10 2015 No.2146062 >>2146061 Obviously meant to reply to >>2146044

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:56:30 2015 No.2146066 >>2145657 sycra wannabe and he ain't even that good either

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 10:58:08 2015 No.2146068

>>2146062
>>2146061
the image you just posted has some muscle, but >>2146035 seems different.
looking at her knee, it looks more like fat to me. her arms also look kind of flabby. all in all it's just a little weird, i wouldn't be surprised if it was shopped

also
>thinking that fat asses ever have anything to do with muscle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 11:04:47 2015 No.2146077 >>2146068 That pic isn't shopped and neither is it fat. That's just how big thigh muscles look if you aren't super lean (same goes for the arms) and women definitely don't want to be very muscular and extremely lean at the same time.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 11:09:41 2015 No.2146087
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>>2146068
>thinking that fat asses ever have anything to do with muscle.
They have literally everything to do with muscles unless it's an actual FAT ass which looks like pic related

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 11:32:47 2015 No.2146109 File: 190 KB, 706x1000, rainy22222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 11:34:56 2015 No.2146111 >>2146109 her right wrist is weird and the legs are way, WAY too long. her neck is also too short.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 12:15:15 2015 No.2146147 File: 93 KB, 800x550, cherry_background_fini_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146029 thanks for the motivation anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 12:18:34 2015 No.2146152 >>2146147 That looks so much better

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 12:37:10 2015 No.2146180 >>2146031 >implants Some chicks are predisposed to being thick but >>2146035 >>2146044 >>2146068 You get an ass like that by squatting heavy. Takes two years worth of gym to get there though.

>>	Gym Dog Wed Jul 8 12:48:37 2015 No.2146199 >>2146018 I agree with you, I see what's wrong with her pelvis. One side is longer than the other >>2145976 Thanks for the redline, I see my mistake a lot better! I'll go back to my pencil sketch and make these changes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 13:12:49 2015 No.2146226 >>2146147 Not only does that spoon look a million times better now but next time you'll have to draw one you will have a much better idea of how to do it. Isn't learning fucking fun?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 13:19:36 2015 No.2146235 irc.rizon.net #MangaCircle i made a circle for people who draw manga, drop by if you want

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 13:29:13 2015 No.2146245 >>2146235 Why is there so much futa

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:10:55 2015 No.2146272 >>2145915 >>2145928 >>2145930 Awesome, thanks m8 - these are really helpful. I'll do some studies tonight >>2146066 >sycra Ugh I don't know what this means. He is not one of my fav artists. I like Otto Schmidt and JP

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:46:44 2015 No.2146341 >>2146235 >>2146245 these two posts in conjunction just made my day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:48:04 2015 No.2146344 >>2146245 >>2146341 what.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:08:18 2015 No.2146364 File: 38 KB, 500x506, 1394505952642.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146235 >>2146245 >>2146341 >>2146344 holy shit i find that funny

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:35:11 2015 No.2146389 File: 163 KB, 403x399, 1378669489529.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146364 still not getting it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:49:22 2015 No.2146400 >>2146389 >Hey guys, I created a forum for animal lovers to get together, over at >>>/an/ >why the fuck is it all dolphin porn how do you not find this hilarious

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 16:55:15 2015 No.2146403 >>2145420 this is why I'm afraid to move on from simple lineart, the danger of becoming a turd polisher is real

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:09:46 2015 No.2146417 >>2146403 at least that anon is working on it. you're just whining and stagnating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:38:15 2015 No.2146472 File: 748 KB, 600x937, asfasf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2145144 Here again, did this today

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:46:04 2015 No.2146477 >>2146472 i like it. the figue seems a bit out of place though from the rest of the painterly landscape.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 18:46:24 2015 No.2146478 >>2145144 looks dank

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:00:00 2015 No.2146488

>>2146472
Pretty nice anon. The scale doesn't read well though. Like the amount of details in the trees and their distances and their sizes are all a bit conflicting. Like the tree to the left of the figure is hard to tell how far it is, but it reads sort of like a tiny tree right next to him. Same with the way the rocks are painted on the mountain face given how far they are supposed to be they don't really read at the proper scale.

The spotlight you have going on feels a little heavy handed/forced. I would make it more subtle and maybe bring some light into the rest of the image as well. Make it feel a bit more natural, you know?

Also the film grain is a bit overdone for my taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:02:58 2015 No.2146491 File: 236 KB, 800x1000, 3152.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:08:24 2015 No.2146492 >>2146488 Thanks! I'll bear this in mind for the next one

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:52:54 2015 No.2146597

>>2146272
>Otto Schmidt and JP
You're going to have to study them more and refine your lines a bit more both have smoother linework

your linework is too rough and angular and thus comes off more as looking like Sycra than Otto

imo Sycra is a lot better than majority of artist itt so it's not super negative to be compared to him

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:56:53 2015 No.2146602 File: 13 KB, 261x258, 508.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 22:07:29 2015 No.2146609 >>2146602 cute

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 22:14:56 2015 No.2146615

>>2146597
Not him but I never understood the sycra hate. The style is a bit weird and the way he goes about it probably seems weird to some people but I think it's amazing when you hear about his journey he basically has no talent what so ever yet still managed to get to that level despite starting really late in his life.
I wouldn't say he's an amazing artist with amazing works, but all things considered I think he should be one of the bigger role models of /ic/ simply due to his skill being almost solely due to hard work as opposed to talent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 01:54:54 2015 No.2146781 File: 361 KB, 1722x2137, pose1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts please?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 02:32:12 2015 No.2146813 >>2146491 I feel like she'd be falling backwards like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 02:33:22 2015 No.2146814 >>2146491 good looking even though the pose looks awkward

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 03:04:56 2015 No.2146839 File: 53 KB, 348x1000, orihime.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to draw again. Any critiques?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 03:06:21 2015 No.2146842 >>2146839 I meant "Trying to draw again using a tablet."

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:35:59 2015 No.2146915
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fuckkkk meeeeee - I didn't want to give up, but this was realllly painful
>1-17, 26-33 were from photo refs
>18-25 were animu refs

i was really trying to focus on the placement of the eyes in the front plane of the face. I was attempting to mentally construct the eyes into the head ignoring the literal lines that I saw in the picture, but it was too hard. It wasn't clicking...

28, 30, 32 are the only ones remotely close to the refs. I started putting a circular plane for the side of the head after 27 - it was starting to help, but I got too frustrated.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 05:59:57 2015 No.2146923 File: 373 KB, 1058x1199, or.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146839 you have some weird perspective going on the head's at a top down perspective, but the legs are directly viewed from the side also calves are weird bad redline is bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 06:08:17 2015 No.2146927 >>2146915 looks like drawing in that vastly simplified style you've got is hindering your ability to draw more accurately you're drawing pointy chins and flattening all the features on the face, including the eyes

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 07:51:46 2015 No.2146962

>>2146923
>chicken scratch
>stiff pose with no sense of weight
>posting nonsense about perspective and implying that I'm using wide-angle lens
My bad, I should specify:
I didn't meant "ANY critiques".
I meant "Any critiques by people who at least know fundamentals".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 08:00:01 2015 No.2146964 >>2146962 He's not wrong for the shape of the legs at least. Otherwise something bothers me between the perspective of the feet and of the top, but that might just be because the head is leaning.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 08:04:27 2015 No.2146967

>>2146915
how much time did you spend on these (per head)?
Do you aim for realistic proportions or do you want to keep drawing stylized stuff?

Anyway I really suggest drawing SKULLS from a good photo reference (like a 360° turnaround)
, you'll learn a lot about feature placement and proportions

As for planes, look into the Asaro head or any other head construction (loomis, hampton, vilppu, etc)

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:08:00 2015 No.2146995
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>>2145411
More or less done with the base, guess I'll continue with the rest of the expresions to do, a basic pose variation if not the casual clothes version http://i.imgur.com/UGoYQwH.png

(I don't think I need to say the background is 100% not done by me, but just in case)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:14:05 2015 No.2146998 File: 161 KB, 968x900, guy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] work in progress.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:15:19 2015 No.2147000

>>2146915
it's a bit better, maybe..
in any case, you're rushing way too much. there is no point to your studies if they aren't accurate in the least.
right now it's like, you're thinking that if you do 10 of each you'll improve, but that's not the case.
there is no point if you don't do it properly. one or two accurate sketches (even if you have to correct them over and over) are better than 30 completely wrong ones.

especially if you are drawing from life/photo, try to take in as much of the shapes and relationship as possible.

your studies can't even really be called studies at this point.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:42:21 2015 No.2147012

>>2146962
stop throwing a tantrum and try to understand what others are telling you. even if there's a lot of chickenscratch, you can still learn something from it. there are some parts that are better in the redline compared to the original.

>I meant "Any critiques by people who at least know fundamentals".
that really shouldn't be coming from you. don't be so entitled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:48:37 2015 No.2147014 >>2146923 Thanks for the critique. >>2146962 Wow anon. Don't pretend to be me(OP of the image).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 10:35:38 2015 No.2147044 >>2146995 If you're not going to fix the shit we tell you is wrong then stop posting here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 10:40:40 2015 No.2147049 just testing <a class="embedly-card" href="https://www.youtube.com/c/tvcavaleiro9">TvCAVALEIRO</a> <script async src="//cdn.embedly.com/widgets/platform.js" charset="UTF-8"></script>

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 11:33:54 2015 No.2147086 File: 99 KB, 612x867, shaa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:28:12 2015 No.2147223 File: 106 KB, 803x803, inmn3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] slowly rendering it...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:30:04 2015 No.2147225 >>2147086 Head is fucking huuuuge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:30:16 2015 No.2147226 >>2147223 you didn't correct anything did you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:44:23 2015 No.2147245 >>2147225 totally aware

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:46:30 2015 No.2147247 >>2147223 wow... her legs and feet seem positively huge compared to the rest of the body.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:49:01 2015 No.2147249 >>2147086 I get it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:49:08 2015 No.2147250 >>2147223 erase those feet and do them again please

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:17:16 2015 No.2147276 >>2146781 elbow placement on left arm appears to be slightly high.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:20:54 2015 No.2147278 >>2147223 Those feet are the size of the head. Holy fuck. Please don't turd polish.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:29:13 2015 No.2147289
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>>2147250
>>2147278
> I'm ordering you to change that, do it already

/ic/ cancer in a nutshell.
Not this guy but I've seen comparable works that are stylized in the same way for the proportions. If you want to complain about something complain that the hands positions doesn't fit the position of the sword.

This is the stylized drawing thread for god sake, next you're gonna complain that her eyes are too big ? Looking at the size of the sword, horns, hairs and clothes, literally everything is exaggerated on purpose.

> inb4 muh style

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:30:36 2015 No.2147292 File: 91 KB, 720x565, CRSH432.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:30:53 2015 No.2147294 >>2147289 >muh style

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:31:39 2015 No.2147296 >>2147289 Even if you consider them stylized, try drawing where the legs are underneath the skirt. They're not even the same length.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:34:37 2015 No.2147300

>>2147296
The way I saw it the left one is bending.

Though if anything, the shoes themselves doesn't seems to have the same shape. Now that's something we can criticize, like the perspective of the hands that doesn't fit the one of the katana's.
The proportions chosen are the least of the problems her, if you want something realistic go on another thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:36:09 2015 No.2147302 >>2147292 You clearly used the towel to hide your lack of anatomy skills, use a reference and try to do the nude body first. Most of the body doesn't make much sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:37:00 2015 No.2147303 >>2147289 They're not even in perspective /ic/ is specifically for critique anyway if you don't want any why would you post

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:46:41 2015 No.2147313

>>2147223
>>2147303
Please stop reading what you want to read, I criticized myself the pic in my post.

There are two problems with you guys here.
You focus on things that aren't the point at all here, aka the proportions of a stylized body.
And next, you're acting all high and mighty, "this is shit, redo it", stop that already, it's more annoying than anything.

Now, to talk about things that matters more for this piece. Indeed, the perspective of some parts of it doesn't make much sense. If the feets are supposed to be on the ground that doesn't fit.
There are others errors like the left horn being bigger, both not doesn't seems to be well positioned either. right arm proportions are wonky (form is too long, rest is weirdly attached).

Overall pics looks good thanks to a good render, but when you bother to look at the details as an artist you can see the flaws.

Guys complaining that the feets are big are fucking retards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:47:58 2015 No.2147314 >>2146995 This >>2147044 Seriously, what the fuck. Its like you post just to show off your inability to take other peoples advice. Whats the point?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:49:24 2015 No.2147317 >>2147314 advices aren't all good nor need to be taken in account.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:52:59 2015 No.2147322 >>2147317 Of course all advices are not good. But for smurf it almost seems like he never takes any advice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:56:37 2015 No.2147331 >>2147322 He got several advices on /a/ which he used to fix some stuff actually, just listening to the shitposters really isn't a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 14:59:08 2015 No.2147333 File: 2.87 MB, 352x198, 1429157168127.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2147331 >advices on /a/ >advice >on /a/ KEK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:04:40 2015 No.2147339 File: 266 KB, 900x469, mem890.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2147302 you might be right with the lack of anatomy skills, but you're wrong with your towel-cover-up-conspiracy. she's part of a comic and will appear nude.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:18:10 2015 No.2147352

>>2147339
So I'm wrong when saying you didn't draw the nude body first ? The legs really seems random as hell. Even if that's not the case it doesn't change much anyway.

As for the pic you just posted,the legs seems way too much on the left compared to the rest of the body, and I'm pretty sure the left breast is bigger than the right one.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:23:28 2015 No.2147359

>>2147333
It happens, yeah, they were better and there were more of them, especially for the Tatsumaki pic. As for the Mion sprite, I remember an anon saying the colors were bland and he fixed that a bit later. It's just plain annoying to see some guys pushing on the fact he doesn't listen to anyone because he decided not to do like a guy said.

The problem here really come from the egocentrical personality of some people that thinks they're god just because they're on /ic/, and thanks to them that usually more end with a terrible mood than anything.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:27:28 2015 No.2147365

>>2147359
I wasn't there when someone pointed out perspective issues but when someone points something out to you and you don't do it that shows that you either don't know what you are doing or just don't care and are fishing for answers or stuff you want to hear rather than the things you need to hear.

It is not a personality of someone feeling godlike, it is essential for someone to tell it the way it is no matter how polished or well colored a piece is.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:30:00 2015 No.2147371

>>2147352
yes you're wrong.

again, you're right with the lacking anatomy skills and good point with the legs.

the breasts though I am fine with and don't read this as a 'muh style' dictum. you'll almost never encounter a woman with perfectly equal sized tits. so I'll keep that randomness, as long as it's not too wild or distracting.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:35:11 2015 No.2147378

>>2147365
> > but when someone points something out to you and you don't do it that shows that you either don't know what you are doing or just don't care and are fishing for answers or stuff you want to hear rather than the things you need to hear.

... or simply that what was pointed it is wrong ? Or intended ? A critic isn't necessarily true. I see way too much people losing their shit when the guy doesn't agree with what got said.

> It is not a personality of someone feeling godlike, it is essential for someone to tell it the way it is no matter how polished or well colored a piece is.

It's the way you say it, as simple as that. Calmly explain what is wrong, what could be easily, or not fixed, and even the good points. I really don't think forcing on your opinion or critics on others is a good way to work, aren't we drawing because we like it ? Chill out bruh.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:41:59 2015 No.2147393
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>>2147378
I'm done, you're the same faggot that nitpicks these sorts of arguments and turns them into a circular never ending thread derailing shitstorm. Stop being a fucking fanboy over rinfag and stop sucking his dick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:42:05 2015 No.2147394 So much jelly in this thread. Never stop being /ic/ you guys!

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:42:21 2015 No.2147395
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>>2147371
But there is a damn big size difference here, and it's clearly not intended. I would kinda understand if that was a finished work to not want to bother and use the realistic thing as an excuse but you can easily fix that at this point, and as I said we really can tell.

You admitted to not have enough skills, so I think you try to fix the most you could at least, obvious errors can easily ruin a picture, why not doing it ?

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:43:35 2015 No.2147397

>>2147317
fuck off and stop defending your style.
those legs and clothes are beyond retarded tier.
>b-but he fixed some colors!
this is turd polishing, its shit and if you aren't going to fix the most obvious mistakes that were told to you then you're a fucking idiot.
>b-but rule of sexy
its not sexy, its grotesque.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:47:56 2015 No.2147405 >>2147397 I like how you pretty said everything that is the worst out there to say in one post. > "b-but" maymay > turd polishing > insults every 3 words > "grotesque" Okay, now that's new. Still as bad as the rest though.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:53:19 2015 No.2147423

>>2147405
>but you're just saying buzzwords
I honestly hope you're just a troll. everything I said was completely accurate.
you're defending something you call a "style" that is horrible and has no idea what anatomy is, no idea how clothing works, and heavily relies on references to get even semi-accurate look, which usually ends up looking retarded.
>turd polishing
that's literally what turd polishing is, there's a reason its said, and its because its true.
>insults every 3 words
what do you want to call it? it looks absolutely horrible.
how about actually defending against the points instead of sidetracking. much like your art your arguments are always complete shit.

defend that clothing using something other than "muh style"
there's absolutely no defense for it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:56:48 2015 No.2147428
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>>2147423
You don't seems to get you're the one who just tries to only see the bad parts and lock yourself with this "matter of fcats", no matter what would anyone say you won't listen, except if it's negative as well of course.

A bit sad.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 15:59:39 2015 No.2147431

>>2147428
stop posting on /ic/.
this is a place for people to try to get better and actually listen to critiques. you refuse to do either of those things and are too caught up jerking yourself off.
no one cares about how you got an A+ in your figure drawing class here, your art sucks and you act like a delusional 12 year old.
either grow the fuck up or just don't come here because no one is going to suck you off here and if you're not going to take the critiques to heart you have no reason to be here.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:05:55 2015 No.2147438

>>2147431
I'm not this guy. And I've been criticizing other's works since ever, that's the point of /ic/ and I'm doing exactly what I should. Just because it doesn't fit "your" way to criticize doesn't means it's not here.

Meanwhile, the only thing you seems to be able to do is quickly run on conclusions, just to find a way to complain about others as much as you can. You're plain frustrated and using this whole critic thing as a poor excuse. That's not my problem but it's unhealthy for everyone here, you included.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:08:01 2015 No.2147439

>>2147438
>I'm not him, I'm just defending people who don't change their works after getting critiqued while defending it with "muh style" and continue posting as if we care
and you're what's wrong with /ic/. there is absolutely no reason you should be supporting that attitude or that art when he's fucking up the basics.
>b-but its STYLE!
no, style is no excuse for terrible anatomy and for fundamentals disappearing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:13:11 2015 No.2147441 >>2147439 jesus fucking christ man - here's another anon telling you to shut up. stop with that greentexting muh style barking nonsense. we all get your opinion. quick posting the same thing over and over again.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:15:22 2015 No.2147443
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>>2147439
Again, you're just reading what you want to read and distorting in a negative way. Oh well, why am I even talking with retards like you anyway. Why don't you get better yourself instead of complaining so much about others ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:16:17 2015 No.2147444 >people actually defend "muh style" in alt style threads I knew this shit was DA tier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 16:18:03 2015 No.2147448 >>2147444 >people actually defend "muh style" in alt style threads You mean one insufferable faggot that does this sort of shit every time.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 17:31:24 2015 No.2147520

>>2146967
>time did you spend on these (per head)?
It wasn't much I kept giving up when I noticed they looked wonky - prob like 3min

>realistic proportions or do you want to keep drawing stylized stuff
I feel like I'm being greedy if I say I want to be able to do both on demand

>drawing SKULLS from a good photo reference
I like this idea

>>2146927
>hindering your ability to draw more accurately
I had a hard time making up my mind last night. Couldn't decide if I wanted realism or simplified, ended up with a mess. At the end of the day, I don't want to be a copy machine.

>>2147000
I was trying to shot gun the faces, see which techniques have good results and then focus on what made it. I think I just completely missed so I couldn't iterate. I will try again tonight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 17:44:27 2015 No.2147535 File: 101 KB, 688x553, 7-9-15 busts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] busts from imagination. I spent too long on these. Back to references.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:03:43 2015 No.2147550

>>2147520
>I will try again tonight.
look at >>2147336
or look at what this guy is doing. https://youtu.be/xzAS6ttxaxo?t=32m34s

or hell, go ahead and read drawing on the right side of the brain or something. measure more carefully, look at the angles, looke at the negative space.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:15:56 2015 No.2147560 >>2147535 Don't you have a weekly stream to prepare?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:18:48 2015 No.2147563 >>2147550 where can I find this particular pose catalogue?

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:24:43 2015 No.2147569

>>2147563
dunno. maybe it's "super pose book" or something.
but any ref collection wil do. maybe you can find the proko ones somewhere.

but the point is not that catalogue. it's the method.
>rely on horizontals and verticals to determine points
>rely on negative space to get the shape.
>rely on gesture to get the feel.
don't worry about the details, at least get the geneeral shape right.
at your level, trust your eyes more than your brain. you are still totally unfamiliar with the human shape from almost all angles.

again, a half assed study is a complete waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:56:22 2015 No.2147607 >>2147560 Lolwat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 18:57:10 2015 No.2147608 >>2147550 Oh damn, now that's one hell of a great reference book to study, I need something like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:30:02 2015 No.2147627 File: 248 KB, 1200x840, head.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146998 cant decide which i like best. crits welcome...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:38:24 2015 No.2147636 File: 1.21 MB, 2400x3000, digp06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:40:52 2015 No.2147638 >>2147627 >>2146998 he has a mouth like a frog you know? in fact, nose, eyes, all the features are a bit on the big side

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:45:56 2015 No.2147643 any advice please

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:50:14 2015 No.2147647 >>2147643 Post your work first and we'll try.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:53:31 2015 No.2147649 >>2147643 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/9764931/The-101-best-pieces-of-advice-ever-received.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 19:57:42 2015 No.2147653 >>2147638 >alternative art/stylization general

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:13:18 2015 No.2147661

>>2147627
The left most drawing certainly gives more character, but the rest of the face is not angular or blocky enough to really support it.

Right drawing looks younger and is overall more coherent. However I'd copy over a few of those hard dark strokes, especially the ones near the chin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:15:40 2015 No.2147664 >>2147653 well yeah, but with males, and especially with features like that, you want to have more distinct features

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:38:49 2015 No.2147684 >>2147661 thx anon.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:45:23 2015 No.2147687
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>>2147247
>>2147250
>>2147278
>>2147296
thanks guys, i'll definitely shrink the size of her feet and make her head slightly smaller...

>>2147313
i tried to construct it again, but is it correct? i probably need someone to guide me at this point...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:49:39 2015 No.2147693 >>2147687 seems good enough. the arms definitely need some more work though. they don't match with the direction of the sword anymore

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:49:47 2015 No.2147694

>>2147687
That better yeah. Though I would move the left horn a bit more, the left should seems inexistant and the left feet doesn't exactly looks in the same perspective as the right one, otherwise, looks good me I guess. Since You made the error before pay attention to the position of the arms and their perspective compared to the sword/katana.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:51:46 2015 No.2147698 >>2147694 >>2147693 i couldn't figure out the arms/sword for the life of me, but i plan to keep them generally rhe same as they are. perhaps i'll shift the sword a little. i'll shift her left foot up a little.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:54:48 2015 No.2147701 File: 2.77 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_0022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:56:12 2015 No.2147702 File: 3.00 MB, 2338x1700, afm4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2147701 Both mine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 20:56:54 2015 No.2147703 >>2147687 I think you need to pay more attention to how that dress is drawn, it doesn't convey anything about the form underneath.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:04:26 2015 No.2147710 File: 61 KB, 441x571, EYzn234.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] need some advice thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:13:40 2015 No.2147717 >>2147710 I'd say revisit the basics but you haven't even visited them yet. Read the sticky, and practice practice practice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:23:31 2015 No.2147728 >>2147701 Not a particular fan of the splotchy pencil shading. It's very midtone heavy. Darker values over all need to be added, and cast shadows (under the fallen lightpole, for example). Linework is quite decent, however.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 21:35:48 2015 No.2147737 >>2147687 The legs do look better here, yes. However it seems like you should bend the dress around the legs, specifically her left thigh should be a point of tension the way I imagine it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:05:02 2015 No.2147856 File: 253 KB, 826x1000, 3152.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2146814 >>2146813 Thanks. I tried moving the left leg to balance it a bit more. Also moving on to rendering.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:06:00 2015 No.2147859 >>2147856 >chicken legs Make em a biiit thicker. Maybe it's just the background that's throwing me off, but they seem too thin for the rest of the body.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:11:03 2015 No.2147861 >>2147859 I think it's the pants that are throwing you off. To me it looks okay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:13:23 2015 No.2147863 File: 73 KB, 1043x939, ss+(2015-07-10+at+12.03.30).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just sketching

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 00:14:01 2015 No.2147864 >>2147859 I see it too. Might be one of those things you have to render out to fix. I'll work o it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 01:07:06 2015 No.2147895 File: 59 KB, 960x915, SHINYTHINGSYAY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2147223 i like your rendering style a lot Also stuff im doing to relax a bit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 01:30:32 2015 No.2147908 File: 180 KB, 900x900, dorade.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 03:15:04 2015 No.2147963 >>2147550 >>2147569 gotcha (other anon wasn't me) - going balls deep now and feeling pretty hype today - i'll probably be pretty defeated in 20 minutes >wife said faces are not my specialty >said I should go wash the dishes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:04:31 2015 No.2147989 critique welcome ~

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:06:13 2015 No.2147991 File: 1.20 MB, 2000x700, cyberpunksCOLOUR.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some Cyberpunks

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:10:02 2015 No.2147992 >>2147856 Mind if I ask where you learn to color?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:10:18 2015 No.2147993 File: 1.98 MB, 1944x2880, Doremon2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] critique welcome ~

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:19:00 2015 No.2148010 >>2147991 Motoko and Golgo 13 got a child together ?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:37:58 2015 No.2148013
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there is no A for effort. I tried to slow down a bit today
>1 started out with too much detail - wasted time trying to render with pen
>2 better than 1 but I was getting bored with the teeth - moving on to faces with skin
>3 again with details in the wrong places and I missed feature placement
>4 focused on putting things in the right place first
>5 felt like the closest of the lot today
>6 started freaking out cause I ran out of paper space - fucked it up

All the faces are still too long
>to be continued tomorrow

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:19:20 2015 No.2148024
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>>2148013
get the entire head shape down first. you're doing everything too vaguely. especially when it comes down to the shape of the head/hair. you seem to think that it's not important at all?
the chin is too small on both skulls. see pic related for the rest. your eyebrows are often too high, the nose is often too long (measure it more, you'd be surprised). the shape for the head is almost always completely wrong, even with the skulls there are mistakes.
definitely not good enough yet.

(it would probably be good to switch to a pencil for this so you can correct yourself. maybe add some shading as well. sometimes mistakes will become more obvious once you do that.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:28:12 2015 No.2148025 File: 202 KB, 1200x1200, mio.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mio Amakura from Fatal Frame

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:50:19 2015 No.2148031 >>2147993 Dan Luvisi/10

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:51:28 2015 No.2148032 >>2148025 lopsided head.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:59:30 2015 No.2148036 >>2144756 i like this a lot anon, you got a blog or some shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 07:41:20 2015 No.2148049 >>2147607 I think he's implying you are sinix

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 07:45:27 2015 No.2148051 >>2148036 sundryaddams.tumblr

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 09:14:06 2015 No.2148074 >>2147992 I fell asleep :/ Not really where I want to be render wise. But mostly just copying artists I like, doing studies and reading.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:36:18 2015 No.2148151
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>>2146995
Made a quick sketch of the next sprite, I'll continue it later as I won't have the occasion to work on it until tuesday.

And yeah, even with the wide hips and thighs intended I made the legs a bit too wide, I'll fix that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:50:50 2015 No.2148160 File: 467 KB, 1500x1500, 7-11-2015 1FIN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] out of an entire day I end up drawing late at night, how do I stop this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:57:21 2015 No.2148163 >>2148160 The simplest way would be to not draw at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:28:02 2015 No.2148185 File: 751 KB, 1000x700, CafeReds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rip me apart please It's a done image as far as I'm concerned, so I won't change anything, but I would like to know where I could improve

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:54:23 2015 No.2148195 >>2148151 It's better, but still suffering the same problem, push your drawing further, you'l know when you've got it right

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:01:48 2015 No.2148204

>>2148185
I'll just mention the hands.
They are all nice except for the one you hid behind the pastry shelf.
It may be perfectly logical to hide the hand but as an image, it reads a bit awkward as if her hand is amputated.
Notice how you drew all the other hands with a meaning or nice gesture.
I would suggest scooting the left girl's mug more toward her right so that she is cupping it with both hands. (only my suggestion)

It's a very nice pic. I appreciate the little details with the food. love when artists do that. However this makes the lack of details in the chairs, window, etc all stand out.
I think a little more atmosphere would be good, even something like more unified colors.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:14:51 2015 No.2148216 File: 123 KB, 471x257, 1404512473089.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is it alright to stylize your study and use it to learn how to and what to stylize? I know realism, but can't get a direct copy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:44:50 2015 No.2148242 >>2148216 Learn what you want However, know you'll only really be able to draw what you study, and realism is a pretty useful thing to know when pursuing style

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:20:34 2015 No.2148268 >>2145732 >>2145733 nice style, but please, stop using lined paper

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:36:44 2015 No.2148277

>>2148024
>get the entire head shape down first
It's easy for me to get lost in the details too early - gotta stay disciplined

>eyebrows are often too high, the nose is often too long
This makes sense, my faces are usually too long and by the time I get to the bottom of the chin, I have to squish in the mouth to fit in the landmarks I made earlier.

>definitely not good enough yet.
thanks for your patience, I only have a couple hours to study each day so my progress is pretty slow, but it's great getting feedback

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 15:46:19 2015 No.2148337

>>2148204
Alright, so I guess that's a composition problem.
If I was to redo that part now, I would probably want to at least hint at the hand behind there to show it exists, correct?

It was the first time I even bothered doing a full background and I was afraid that too much details around would make it too busy, but I guess that did the opposite effect.

Thanks for the advice!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:00:52 2015 No.2148351 File: 732 KB, 850x1100, ghostking3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Help with my yaois, please? I particularly need help/redline on the boner . . . the bed which is supposed to be an over sized coffin and just . . . yeah, this is a mess.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:08:43 2015 No.2148363

>>2148337
> I would probably want to at least hint at the hand behind there to show it exists, correct?
Yeah but there are many other ways to deal with that area as well. It's not necessary to show all the hands obviously, but I think it makes for a better considered picture if you crop the arm somewhere but that crop is significant. In other words, if there is something to make up for the truncation of the hand, such as a big fabulous cake on top of the pastry shelf (this can also have the extra effect of breaking up the static line of the windowsill). You can really take this in a lot of directions. I think this image is full of potential.

>It was the first time I even bothered doing a full background and I was afraid that too much details around would make it too busy, but I guess that did the opposite effect.
As it is right now the BG does seem empty but you don't have to add many details to it. You are right that too many details can be distracting. But on the other hand, I think it's important to show that you have considered every part of the image and made a conscious decision to keep it simple. A very small thing can make big difference. e.g. a subtle pattern on the walls, details on the wooden molding, a slight hint of curtains on the top, or a simple picture frame.

Also I forgot to mention before but the facial expressions are very lively and cute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 16:26:22 2015 No.2148383 >>2148363 All things to consider for the next picture. Again, thanks for all the advice!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 18:47:44 2015 No.2148514 >>2148151 Dr. Cloud, I presume?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 20:15:55 2015 No.2148590 File: 584 KB, 1046x2100, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I have worked more on my hands and lines. I'd also like more feedback and criticism on this drawing I made, please.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 21:37:02 2015 No.2148659

>>2148590
Well, it's not good, it's very flat.

But don't feel bad, you have at least taken the first steps at mastering anatomy. Do it again, and this time try feel all dimensions of what you are drawing.

When you are aware of how the lines will flow due to the shape and mass it will start to feel solid and have weight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 22:52:26 2015 No.2148712 >>2148659 I see, I will fix the flat issue, thank you for the critique

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 00:58:23 2015 No.2148792 File: 136 KB, 574x653, pose1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2147276 Thanks! what about now? I'm trying some gothic lolita.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:15:04 2015 No.2148806 >>2147991 nice work, but the faces are wak on the male characters imo. also, the perspective on the shalow cylinders on the black guys shoulders is fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:45:58 2015 No.2148834 File: 12 KB, 385x685, dfhfgh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any feedback would be nice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:48:06 2015 No.2148835 >>2148834 Loomis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:08:28 2015 No.2148884 File: 184 KB, 827x1063, Meat Mesh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm desperately trying to get some sense of what the hell I'm doing here for a skinless figure. Can I get some pointers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:26:24 2015 No.2148893 >>2148834 whats the name of the dude you're reffing off of its like numbers or some retarded shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:56:48 2015 No.2148916 >>2148834 head doesn't really align with the body.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:45:00 2015 No.2148957 >>2148884 I'd say work hard on fundamentals with Humans and Anatomy on the side. What you have right there is really not much of anything much less a figure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 06:24:26 2015 No.2149007 >>2148893 it's in the OP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 08:24:45 2015 No.2149057 >>2147991 I hate how you did Motoko you tumblr trash. Don't fucking mess with the original faces, you completely ruin it with your "style".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 11:24:07 2015 No.2149206 >>2149057 You think that's the Major just because it's a purple-haired cyberpunk girl? Get the fuck outta here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 18:50:08 2015 No.2149524 >>2148151 The skirt clings to her legs too much, and isn't Rena's skirt supposed to be longer than that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:15:24 2015 No.2149713 New Thread: >>2149711 >>2149711 >>2149711

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