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Draw Thread Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:19:59 2015 No.2140334 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:22:55 2015 No.2140339 File: 63 KB, 1000x1000, 1435265257207.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thanks to the kind anon who made the draw thread template And the artists from the last thread >>2139500 >>2137734

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:29:26 2015 No.2140347
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Hello everyone.
I'm trying to improve this drawing, I'm happenig to have problems with the legs, specially the one on the right.
I'm trying to look for some reference pictures with similar positions to work on it but i'm not getting it.

Also, i have to work on the chest ribbon, that come later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:43:04 2015 No.2140354 File: 263 KB, 600x1314, 1435904966429.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I personally think that the right leg was too straight. Also, maybe a stretched leg would look nice with the squashed leg. Btw, nice drawing I really loved it!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:43:42 2015 No.2140355 File: 167 KB, 700x700, SPWIP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sloppy painting while waiting on client feedback.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:55:37 2015 No.2140356 File: 419 KB, 1403x2000, pg10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how can i improve

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:02:50 2015 No.2140359 >>2140354 Thank you for your red lines, and your kind words on my drawing. I'm liking you idea, I'll come back later with some changes, Thank you again!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:10:39 2015 No.2140362 >>2140356 I dont think you can Those panels, expressions and gestures scream professional work. Do you have a website so i can read the rest of this? Im really interested to read your comic

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:11:01 2015 No.2140364 File: 379 KB, 942x1200, SquidKidWip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm getting wrecked by a hand, please send help

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:14:21 2015 No.2140365 >>2140364 maybe you should draw it so it looks like he's dragging the object. Like its pulling his arm because of the weight while he is pulling it. So basically stretching out the arm.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:15:59 2015 No.2140368 >>2140364 Assuming you have both of yours I suggest using your own hand and a mirror.... generally works pretty well when you can't seem to get the hand to look right...

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:19:18 2015 No.2140371

>>2140365
I wanted to make him effortlessly pulling it, but now I realize that I'm running into this problem because I changed the angle of the roller mid-sketch. Do you think keeping the arm more parallel to the roller would help

>>2140368
I tend to have trouble with props, even with my mirror

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:43:36 2015 No.2140385 File: 301 KB, 900x1107, lizardboy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wip

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 03:55:05 2015 No.2140389 File: 678 KB, 1000x1294, noro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not done coloring but tell me your thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:03:17 2015 No.2140394 File: 130 KB, 1042x538, z546p.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:06:04 2015 No.2140395
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>>2140385
Nice anon, but the shoulders are weird. They are tilted too far forward since they would naturally twist back when the arms are raised in that position. Also the insertions and origins of the muscles are messed up a bit in yours. I would refer to an anatomy book and see exactly how the deltoid and pec and bicep all interact with each other in terms of where the tendons attach and how the wrap around each other and appear at various positions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:44:42 2015 No.2140409 File: 803 KB, 1060x1067, 2015-07-03 03.41.15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Owlbear man, rip in wip

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:46:09 2015 No.2140410 >>2140395 thank you, i appreciate the redline.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:47:04 2015 No.2140411 >>2140385 Row upon row upon row of abs all the way up the the pecs.. No hint of rib cage on the front side, Xiphoid process, arch indicating where the ribs give way to the abdominal cavity. Anatomy Anon, more study needed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 04:51:28 2015 No.2140413 >>2140411 very true, i will definitely work on it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:34:22 2015 No.2140443 File: 214 KB, 1500x1500, docbrown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to do a portrait of Doc Brown from Back to the Future.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:43:36 2015 No.2140448 File: 156 KB, 1444x960, Almanac concept WIP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to combine a tree effect with the portrait, first attempt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:57:05 2015 No.2140453 >>2140347 change face shape and features, work on hair, and just in general, focus on accuracy. constantly reflect art by other people and real life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:57:37 2015 No.2140454 File: 260 KB, 943x911, https%3A%2F%2F41.media.tumblr.com%2Fea82ef16ebd3690bb696ae5bef01e876%2Ftumblr_nqvwqxFYxN1ts82tmo1_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dear jesus the abs look like dinner rolls

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:41:18 2015 No.2140472 >>2140356 LOOMIS O O M I S

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 07:53:28 2015 No.2140477
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a painting/value study I guess of Queen Latifah, could've done something more interesting with color but the original photo was B+W so I would have been making it up which I'm not very good at

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:00:01 2015 No.2140502 File: 54 KB, 674x508, IMG_3337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I finished this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 09:09:55 2015 No.2140505 >>2140354 This is awful, you made the leg too long and exaggerated proportions too much for her style. Please, never redline again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:22:53 2015 No.2140537 File: 174 KB, 1000x1667, davidsmall.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140334 me again with a david head study

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:04:59 2015 No.2140551 >>2140537 It's not finished obviously

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:20:34 2015 No.2140561 >>2140385 link to gallery?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:28:14 2015 No.2140569 File: 203 KB, 848x1200, Jumper dude.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] r8 pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:29:53 2015 No.2140570 >>2140569 bad design

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:32:31 2015 No.2140572
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>know absolutely nothing about sketching
>see this picture
>get inspired

What technique or style is this called and what basic skills should I improve before taking this kind of drawing style?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:02:48 2015 No.2140597 File: 426 KB, 650x800, 978142541_03ce14ed_0244.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140572 harold speed, the practice and science of drawing learn to copy shit well bargue studies draw alot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:06:59 2015 No.2140604 File: 840 KB, 1000x1667, portrait woman 2 small.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140334 another one finished, im pumping them out by the hour

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:10:36 2015 No.2140606 >>2140561 http://www.roillz.tumblr.com/ I need to post more stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:13:22 2015 No.2140653 >>2140572 not everything has a name. this is a fucking drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:33:23 2015 No.2140672 File: 169 KB, 1000x1667, david.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] got a little update

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:33:51 2015 No.2140816 File: 202 KB, 787x1077, david.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140672 finished

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:36:22 2015 No.2140818

>>2140816
Why did you leave out the hair and ears and rest of the skull?

Also watch out for drawing errors like things being out of perspective with each other slightly, or the eyes being very different sizes.

Value-wise it looks kinda odd, like almost metallic. I feel you aren't controlling your values well enough to portray a matte surface of one local value.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 15:38:53 2015 No.2140822 >>2140818 I was too lazy to be honest. I know, I tried doing a matte look but I wanted to excersice different brushes, the eyes are different, Ill fix that, thank you for the crit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:37:48 2015 No.2140865 File: 329 KB, 820x918, Steppken.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:39:20 2015 No.2140867 File: 661 KB, 1100x800, 07-03-2015Wolath.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Used a random creature & a random name generator to create this prompt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:49:06 2015 No.2140873 File: 491 KB, 1062x1280, july 3 2015.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried to get some practice with texture Captcha: SuckMyDickYouFuckingSuckAtDrawing

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:49:19 2015 No.2140874 File: 918 KB, 1000x1294, nutcracker.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WIP but I wanna have your thoughts before I go too far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 16:55:57 2015 No.2140879 File: 175 KB, 580x1032, 20150703_125800.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] life drawing from last night.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:19:34 2015 No.2140898 >>2140818 Im doing a real study now, the one I posted was kind of a copy I guess, I will post results tomorrow because Im not ready yet and Im fucking tired after painting for 12 hours (not on david alone of course)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:21:47 2015 No.2140900 >>2140874 My advice is to stop with this wanna be anime/manga style and get back to the books to learn fundamentals, your picture sucks ass and I could not be more honest with you here

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:34:20 2015 No.2140909
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>>2140874
i tried to help, but i'm not so good and have trouble with newly purchased tablet, but here it is, still better than insulting
anyway, try using refs (ex: posemaniacs)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:40:51 2015 No.2140919 File: 272 KB, 710x746, sss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140334 Reposting because I need help with rendering this shit. Anyone got tutorials or methods the can share regarding rendering?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:49:32 2015 No.2140926
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>>2140909
I used a ref but I see I went too independent from it.

So far it seems you picked out exactly what I thought was wrong with it. I already started on the left bottom area and I also felt that the arm was too long. I kinda feel the same about the right arm too.

Thanks though. You're much more helpful than the other anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:51:42 2015 No.2140927 >>2140909 Oh, I should also mention the character has a bit of meat on her bones. So should I stay with the small edit I did here>>2140926 or should I use the edit you did?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 17:58:15 2015 No.2140935 >>2140502 Nice feeling, makes me want to see more of your work

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:07:49 2015 No.2140945 >>2140874 It's like you start sketch, halfway start line-art, halfway start paint, halfway made up composition, then tried to move things around.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:18:38 2015 No.2140954

>>2140572

I would have guessed it's some sort of screentone technique, like they use in mangas.
You put on the screentone and cut out the areas where you want it and it creates a sort of pixelated shade on your drawing.
In this case, I think the artist also scratched off some dots, to make it look more sketch-like.
hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3fDgkRRI0

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:43:08 2015 No.2140977
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I've been trying to learn caricature, and have been chipping away at this one of Oberyn Martell. I had given up on it weeks ago when I wasnt happy with the result, but recently returned to it after identifying proportions to change, which I think has improved it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:49:59 2015 No.2140986 >>2140977 I'd like to humbly suggest that you look up sight size measurement anon.... that nose is way too large and the eyes seem spaced too far apart.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:50:37 2015 No.2140988 >>2140977 change the shape of the head..when you just caricature the features it looks really wierd

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:54:58 2015 No.2140992 >>2140986 >>2140977 I'm a moron, apologies... didn't read the word caricature.... ignore my suggestions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 18:57:48 2015 No.2140996 >>2140988 the head is altered, so that I've enlarged the top and shrunk the bottem. If you have more specific advice I'd be happy to try applying it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:21:43 2015 No.2141009 File: 1.72 MB, 1600x1100, 07-03-2015FF7Sketches.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Going to have an artist alley table at a con soon. These are some reference sketches I did today for a Final Fantasy 7 print I want to do

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:29:03 2015 No.2141013 >>2140945 Kinda. I sketch, paint forms, line, then paint details and work on stuff as things happen.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:34:38 2015 No.2141014 >>2141009 i like your lines - tumblr?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:35:36 2015 No.2141015 >>2141009 Get out of that comfort zone

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 19:37:19 2015 No.2141017 >>2141014 Thanks! http://thepixelbuster.tumblr.com/ >>2141015 I have been. Every day I've been posting stuff I've been studying to get out of my comfort zone. Today, though, is Fan Art Friday, so I am prepping for the con.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:21:55 2015 No.2141043 File: 983 KB, 2264x3398, 014.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wip, need critique pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:26:56 2015 No.2141046 File: 1.25 MB, 2560x1536, 20150704_022339.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what's wrong with the hand? first post btw

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 20:33:19 2015 No.2141050

>>2140977
Exaggerate more with the underlying forms and focus less on the polish. You've drawn a normal looking dude with massively deformed forehead, eyes and nose. Try gesture drawing maybe, drawing the gestures of facial expressions and features. Old cartoons might be worth looking at too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:02:06 2015 No.2141069 >>2140879 u bootiful

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 21:57:40 2015 No.2141096 File: 45 KB, 700x700, CCD1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this design maybe too random?

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:29:17 2015 No.2141117

>>2141096
Lose the bottom right skirt-strap, unless you plan to draw a follow-up picture of his attempting the stand back up, having it catch on his knee, and falling on his face. I do like the leg ribbons/skirt strap layering, though.

Also, consider an amulet around the neck. Good pose to show one off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:23:55 2015 No.2141153 >>2141096 is good. his torso is made of paper though and his left elbow is snapped out of place

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:24:49 2015 No.2141154 >>2141009 Is that a fake sketchbook crease? You are such a fucking faggot.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:25:51 2015 No.2141155

>>2140453
Could you please share with me why to change the face features and shape?
That actually how i want it to look, like a cartoon. I'm not going to achieve realism with this drawing.
I'm curious to know why that comment.
I didn't understand the last part either. Sorry. Could care to explain better?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:44:19 2015 No.2141164 File: 208 KB, 705x1011, goombass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] working on this right now. General crits and opinions appreciated. 8D

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:59:28 2015 No.2141177 >>2141164 The girl's torso seems broken. I do understand you actually draw long propotions, but she looks way to long. Also her left hand seems smaller of what it should be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:37:19 2015 No.2141206 File: 825 KB, 1000x1294, nutcracker.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140909 Well I have to thank you, anon. I don't know if it holds to the standards here but I think you helped me change it a lot for the better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:52:38 2015 No.2141213 >>2140879 What pencils do you use?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:58:22 2015 No.2141217 >>2141164 loomis

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:02:20 2015 No.2141220 >>2140867 >random creature & a random name generator may we have the link please?

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:21:28 2015 No.2141272

>>2141220
not him but
http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=anthro
http://www.scifiideas.com/alien-species-generator/
http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/
http://spipes.deviantart.com/art/The-Random-Animal-Generator-190882155
and his looks like http://www.servedhot.net/GURPS/Random%20monster%20generator.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:24:27 2015 No.2141277 >>2141164 Nice perspective. Needs Loomis though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:59:57 2015 No.2141293 File: 287 KB, 891x904, goombass1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] update. also, what is loomis? D:

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:15:55 2015 No.2141294 >>2141293 It's the secret to making your work not look like shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:26:00 2015 No.2141300 >>2141293 Thaaat's pretty hot. Why's the dude chained up?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:50:42 2015 No.2141310 how do I do this loomis and become more suck-free?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:59:01 2015 No.2141311 >>2141310 Read the sticky, or just google "Andrew Loomis books pdf". All his books are free online, study up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:11:47 2015 No.2141318 >>2141213 Conte 1710 B

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 09:44:23 2015 No.2141533 >>2141050 is there a facial gesture equivalent of posemaniacs?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:41:21 2015 No.2141565 File: 119 KB, 558x790, study.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] quick morning studies

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:41:00 2015 No.2141613 >>2141154 Disregard that; I suck cocks.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:44:55 2015 No.2141616

>>2140453
>>2141155
I'm not the anon who made that comment but I went back and read it. It makes no sense to me either. Maybe he/she meant to reply to a different post or just spaced out? I know I do that sometimes.
>change face shape and features
But I have to say this is a non-comment that isn't helpful in any way.

>>2140347
I think this is pretty sweet and no major glaring problems that I can see. Her face looks cute. I can see the point with the redline >>2140354 but that new pose gives her a completely different personality (action oriented) whereas your original was a more delicate and feminine pose. I like your pose better but I think it's unclear what she is doing - whether she is jumping (implied by the hair and collar etc) or just resting on a bed(more sensible given the leg pose).

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:14:51 2015 No.2141711

>>2140927
being fat doesn't change your bone structure (except if you have been obese during your growth, but that's another story), the bone shape and place will be the same.

>>2141206
it's better like this! you should maybe add some fat on the thighs, especially the right one which looks too thin

>>2140409
you should use a reference for torso and shoulders, because they look inexistant and torso muscles are wrong

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:19:39 2015 No.2141715

>>2140347
The leg with the redline is too far forward with regard to the rest of the figure (too far to the right of the canvas). Follow the thigh back up and look at where the leg attaches to the pelvis, where that half of the buttock would have to be--it makes no sense as it is drawn right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:40:31 2015 No.2141732 File: 492 KB, 1000x1667, david 2small.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] study of david

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:50:03 2015 No.2141745 >>2141732 looks like sigourney weaver

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:53:30 2015 No.2141749

Didn't want to double-post but nobody ever responds in Beginner Threads and I don't have much time.
>>2141728
>Time sensitive! Have an uncle whos visiting and heard I'm into art, wants to take me to a Michael's and just buy me a bunch of shit since I rarely see him. I really want to get into oil paint and gouache but I don't want the poor guy to spend too much on me.

>What do I absolutely need as a minimum to get started? I have no idea about anything related to the medium outside of the fact that gouache is just opaque watercolor and you need something for it to adhere to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:03:26 2015 No.2141756 >>2141732 One eye is way bigger than the other, and they look too close together. The nose also looks narrow and long. Be careful with your proportions, and don't be afraid to use 2D shape measuring techniques to ensure accurate placement of landmarks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:07:23 2015 No.2141761 File: 131 KB, 649x900, head-of-david-by-michelangelo-carl-purcell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2141756 maybe the reference explains it

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:09:53 2015 No.2141764

>>2141732
>>2141756
I should also add that you're being too hesitant with your value range. The head blends into the background, and there are no real darks except for around the eyes and that way too dark signature. To address this, you want to first get rid of a pure white background before you start painting (even off-white is far better). Best is to stick with the same values found in the background of your ref, as this all makes it easier to judge whether the values you're using are correct.

Second, you want to focus on modeling the overall egg-like form of the head and an upside down bowl for the hair. Focus on the direction of the light source(s) in the scene, and model the overall form like you would a sphere or any other basic form. In your next passes, refine this by correcting the value change associated with each plane change, but take care not to destroy the overall value relationship from the first step. This will get forms to read well and believably.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:12:21 2015 No.2141766

>>2141761
I already found the reference through a google search, but even without it I could tell your proportions were not accurate. Overemphasizing the eyes is a common enough error when starting out, as is under-emphasizing the nose if you've drawn any anime before.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 15:59:39 2015 No.2141838 >>2141756 >>2141764 >>2141766 Thank you I will work on values and forms especially.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 16:13:06 2015 No.2141847 File: 390 KB, 700x995, gi hobo blu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] completely inked an old sketch of the gi hobo in hitler's house.. rarely use ink but was fairly pleased with it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:35:41 2015 No.2141918 >>2141715 Thank you, i'm still trying to figure that part out and looking for a reference on that. Is the part i'm having trouble with, i can fix the rest later.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:41:31 2015 No.2141926

>>2141616
I found it courios, maybe the person wanted to quote a different post.

Thank you for the advise, yes i wanted it to be more like, when you jump and you are in the middle of the jump? not falling yet but not going up either. Like she was just floating before starting to fall down, and could change her position to a more action oriented one, like the one with the red line already posted.

The drawing is still missing her other arm and hand, it's gonna have one of her weapons (the stick with the moon). I meant her to be like checking out the mess after the attack or something.
I'm gonna fix the hips issue, that way i can move the leg after with less problems.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:51:28 2015 No.2141934
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Round three. Worked on making the perspective less shitty, and dealing with some of the more glaring errors in anatomy (while still attempting to keep it fairly stylized. Don't know if either of those worked out D: ) I think I'm almost ready to start tackling it with colors, but not sure if I should refine the light source further first, or if there are any other glaring mistakes that I'm missing because I've been staring at it for too long.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:35:42 2015 No.2141960 File: 201 KB, 478x762, 2015-07-04_1833.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a little something for america day

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:42:20 2015 No.2141967 File: 996 KB, 1414x1000, c_prc_32hiesdi_assaultmirage_bg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time doing environment + greyscale to colour

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:58:19 2015 No.2141974 >>2141967 the environment looks cool man keep it up

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:54:44 2015 No.2142006
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quick plein air study sitting a coffee shop
was shooting for colour accuracy and lighting not MUH DETAILS
these are deceptively difficult
it's by no means good but i'd appreciate feedback

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 20:09:38 2015 No.2142015

>>2142006
I like the simplicity of this. I think the plants could be simplified in a more economic/interesting manner though.

Next time maybe try to get the nuances of colour in there more? It feels a bit dull at the moment. All those greys, all very similar. Were there no bits of reflected light warming up a part? or a saturated blue of the sky affecting some area? Could you have used a giant soft brush and airbrushed in some bleed/atmosphere in some places? What could you have done to capture the atmosphere, the feeling? It is not quite there I feel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 20:12:52 2015 No.2142019 >>2142015 Fair. Thanks for the tips To be fair, there's not a lot of atmosphere in summer in California :P lol

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 21:02:29 2015 No.2142062

>>2142019
Atmosphere goes beyond atmospheric perspective. I mean atmosphere as the general feeling. The lighting or colour or mood or whatever it is that permeates an entire scene. And you can have bleed around objects too, you get it when looking at bright objects, the light sort of bends around things in front of it. Like if you stare at a building with the sun behind it, parts of the silhouette of the building will be filled with a soft light near where the sun is. The same thing would happen in your scene to a small degree since the background has all that strong bright sunlight and the foreground is in shadow. The light from all that would spill over and fill your image up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 21:15:14 2015 No.2142072 >>2142062 alright thanks for the clarification

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 22:30:27 2015 No.2142106
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Did a 30 minute sketch of my mum.
I don't have a lot of experience drawing people from life yet.
Maybe a darker pencil would have helped?

>>2140597
Is that some kim jung gi?

>>2140873
How many pencils did you use?
Did you set up any kind of perspective guides?

>>2142006
That table is giving me a boner.
What did you do that on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:35:05 2015 No.2142133 >>2140865 body too small, check proportions

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:46:04 2015 No.2142138 >>2142106 just photoshop

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:47:18 2015 No.2142140 >>2142138 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:54:40 2015 No.2142142 >>2142140 ???

>>	3DPD !!QBbzNWwIreJ Sat Jul 4 23:55:55 2015 No.2142143 >>2142133 He's just short.

ArtGeek Sat Jul 4 23:58:25 2015 No.2142144
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>>2140334
I am studying an Intense Impressionism painting style, some call it modern impressionism. Because of the intense colors and theme.
This is my drawing in vine charcoal on a 27 x 36 stretched canvas.
Marina and boats are in the middle scene. A Cityscape on the hills in the right, and the left is a park with lights that will permit me to add strong yellows, reds and reflections all throught.

I use vine charcoal to sketch my initial composition. There is too much detail here for sure, but had to outline the transitions in the painting before I got too committed with oil paints. Comments, suggestions?
Thanks, and Happy Forth of July!.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 00:14:21 2015 No.2142150 >>2142138 >>2142142 woops, i misunderstood. I meant what kind of tablet.

>>	Hollow Sun Jul 5 00:17:24 2015 No.2142152 >>2140334

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 00:25:18 2015 No.2142156 File: 534 KB, 1000x1206, study l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] painting study.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 00:49:45 2015 No.2142163
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>>2142150
it's the new wacom intuos, which is what the wacom bamboo used to be. same thing different name

scummy intuos calls the 'bamboo' the 'intuos' now and the 'intuos' the 'intuos pro.' probably going to replace it soon it's a pretty shitty tablet but i bought it on a budget at the time

it steps like a motherfucker you're better off just putting the extra cash down on what they're calling the intuos pro now

pic related

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 01:15:46 2015 No.2142175 File: 1.21 MB, 2448x3264, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Critique please any1?

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 01:38:30 2015 No.2142185

>>2142106
>How many pencils did you use?
>Did you set up any kind of perspective guides?
5 pencils, H, HB, 2B, 3B, 4B
I don't grid or set up perspective guides I try to measure things in relation to lines I've already put down. Leads to a lot of mistakes most of the time but it forces me to learn.

>>2142144
someone else take this one im too tired...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 01:38:39 2015 No.2142186 >>2142144 Never draw again until u read some Betty Edwards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 01:40:48 2015 No.2142188 >>2142185Some1 took care of it ^^^^^

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 02:03:02 2015 No.2142193

>>2142144
Perspective is fucked yo. Rivers don't go up, so unless you have a cascade/waterfall the far end elevation of the river should not be there.

Your sidewalk is pointing at one horizon line, the river try to vanish into it but it seems you said "fuck it" and went full retard trying to reach another horizon. You might be trying to do a downhill/uphill thing in it but bare in mind rivers with elevations don't run smootly, they start to form cascades which makes the type of venezian boat navigation kinda impossible. Perspective made easy chapter 19 for a quick look at this type of perspective if you're trying to do it, otherwise i would recommend the entire book.

I don't even need to say much about the houses, if you learned the basic of perspective you would know how to plot simple cubic and triangular shapes.

Who knows maybe you're one hell of an artist when dealing with values and maybe make it work but i doubt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 06:44:58 2015 No.2142324 File: 1.10 MB, 600x994, asddsa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] study from life

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 06:58:43 2015 No.2142329 >>2142186 Nah he needs Perspective Made Easy in his life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:06:15 2015 No.2142362 File: 1.27 MB, 1340x862, Lanaya.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Felt like I made too many mistakes with this one. On to the next one I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:18:07 2015 No.2142368 >>2142362 Nice rendering on the scarf bro, it has a kronprinz touch

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:21:18 2015 No.2142371 >>2142362 It feels like the cloth is the most important thing in this image, the face should be way more highlighted

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 09:21:54 2015 No.2142414
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>>2142133
Now that you've mentioned it, I do notice that the head is too big.
I was going for slightly more cartoony proportions but you're right, it doesn't work.

Which one of these would you say is the least shit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 09:39:28 2015 No.2142431 >>2142414 not him but left. ㄴ샤ㅣㅣ ㅇ데둥ㄴ ㅐㅜ 좀ㅅ ㅛㅐㅕ still depends on what you're going for though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 10:01:26 2015 No.2142457 >>2142431 >ㄴ샤ㅣㅣ ㅇ데둥ㄴ ㅐㅜ 좀ㅅ ㅛㅐㅕ Wut

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 10:05:47 2015 No.2142460 File: 485 KB, 634x762, figure4th.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stody

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 10:11:37 2015 No.2142466 >>2141732 This could be a reaction image

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 10:32:14 2015 No.2142486
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Should I go with Blizzard dragon wings? I'm not sure whether I should darken the entire creature or not and just work with specific areas, like the extra skin underneath the neck.

Critique certainly appreciated. Tear me a new one, if you're so inclined.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 10:38:04 2015 No.2142490 >>2142431 It was just a sketch of a female character someone made up. Not planning to work on it any further but it's still nice to hear big mistakes I made. >ㄴ샤ㅣㅣ ㅇ데둥ㄴ ㅐㅜ 좀ㅅ ㅛㅐㅕ Are you an alien?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 10:41:51 2015 No.2142498 >>2141732 I've met a few people like you. Congratulations on spending longer on the signature than the drawing, you are a pretentious douchebag that will never make it as an artist. Try Graphical design. No really, I have met you before.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 10:53:32 2015 No.2142514 File: 248 KB, 1366x636, dfhj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 11:41:48 2015 No.2142576 >>2142514 photobash?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 11:45:04 2015 No.2142581 >>2142185 I used more than one pencil for the first time last semester, for drawing101. I found that I only used like 3-4 at most (6h, 6b, 4b, hb). Maybe I should try experimenting more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 11:58:01 2015 No.2142597 File: 358 KB, 960x540, Screenshot (6).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142576 Yeah I guess. I'm referencing an image for the backround.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 12:16:24 2015 No.2142610 >>2141934 Why is there one spot at the lower back that sticks out of the water? Shouldn't the buttocks also be above the water?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 12:16:30 2015 No.2142611 >>2142498 I'll admit gaudy signatures are stupid, particularly when posting low quality shit online, but you're pretty fucking retarded if you think that signature takes more than a couple of seconds to draw.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 12:19:16 2015 No.2142613 >>2142610 I wondered that too but I figured that this wasn't a spot out of the water but a puddle of water. The rest is above the water to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 12:33:04 2015 No.2142618 File: 212 KB, 686x800, evan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I only had like 40 minutes to draw this guy. Haven't gotten around to fixing it. Probably won't. >>2142498 Is he just acting retarded? Also, why you gotta hate on GRD?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 13:42:44 2015 No.2142710 File: 239 KB, 1160x540, assd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142514

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 13:43:35 2015 No.2142713 File: 290 KB, 459x700, ki-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw it never looks like the reference

ArtGeek Sun Jul 5 13:47:44 2015 No.2142721
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>>2142193
Thanks, good call on my perspective and vanishing point. I was trying to figure out how to terminate the bridge and bring the cityscape with the houses into the left side of my drawings.

Yes good book, thanks for mentioning it. The chapter 19 helped me identify the problems I am having with the houses on the hillside.

Here is where I am now, and I need to change the vanishing point so it doesn't look like I am trying to reach another horizon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 13:48:48 2015 No.2142724 File: 791 KB, 787x1200, ki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw it never looks like the reference Is there a point where it just clicks and through practice your drawings start to look better?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 13:52:16 2015 No.2142728 >>2142724 You don't move on before making it look like the ref if that's what you want. Why shade if the sketch isn't good? You won't just magically start getting it right by accident.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 13:54:26 2015 No.2142732

>>2142498
Its not good, alright, fuck off with your wanna be ad hominem crap, you dont know nothing about me except my name and the fact that I wasnt very good at studying david. Post your work please so we can all appreciate the greatness that you keep for yourself right now.

I wont even respond to the signature part because youre a fucking idiot, and if you have any balls you should post your crap, but I know which one it'll be

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 13:58:16 2015 No.2142737

>>2142362
your light source is extremely strong and the face isnt lit up at all, theres one mistake, then the way the cloth folds(or rather flows) across her arm, it doesnt indicate any elbow or anything in that regard, then theres the way you rendered the tits and anatomy on the whole body, also the head looks as if it doesnt belong to the body

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 14:02:10 2015 No.2142742 >>2142732 That wasn't ad hominem, you retard. You weren't debating anything and you didn't present any argument for him to ignore.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 14:03:50 2015 No.2142744

>>2142721
Buddy, you're getting it all wrong. You need a base colour foundation, watered down colours across the entire painting, nor small patches of paint in certain spots. I'd really tackle the perspective issues before graduating to colour if I were you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 14:04:55 2015 No.2142746 File: 612 KB, 1000x482, Beyond Blue Skies Small.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] from today

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 14:14:11 2015 No.2142760
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I'm working on this shirt thing. I talked to one of the instructors, he said I should try making the trees go from thick to thin lik real ones. This newer version doesn't feel right, but I don't know why.

>>2142746
Noice. Could you add more detail to the rocket near the top? I feel like that would make it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 14:25:15 2015 No.2142769 File: 44 KB, 1042x538, z546l.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:28:32 2015 No.2142826 >>2142742 My argument was my painting which he didn't critique but he offended me, making his statement ad hominem instead of being objective, it was an open discourse you fancy ass cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:30:08 2015 No.2142828 File: 217 KB, 1000x1667, david3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142498 How about this you asshole? I already spent like 5 hours to render it like I want it, will take me another 3 to do the hair an ears, which is a pain in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:31:58 2015 No.2142830 File: 59 KB, 1000x750, mfw..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Progress. Crits?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:31:58 2015 No.2142831 >>2142746 It's nice, but you will hear that a lot probably, I like the colors

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:34:53 2015 No.2142832 >>2142826 Nope. An insult isn't ad hominem. Calm your vagina.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:43:42 2015 No.2142848 >>2142832 I know an insult isn't ad hominem per se, sorry for being wrong, but his argument was that he knew me, and therefore insulted me, I guess that puts it into a gray area

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:44:42 2015 No.2142850 >>2142828 >inb4 one eye is too small I'll fix that >inb4 it isn't finished It's not, I am working on it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:47:09 2015 No.2142856 >>2142848 No, it doesn't. Stop making shit up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:52:51 2015 No.2142861 File: 645 KB, 1701x914, 7897979.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:04:33 2015 No.2142872 >>2142830 I like the design, it's cartoony and has a sense of humor

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:08:36 2015 No.2142875
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Please help. Every time I look at a great artist their faces are so simple and easy, and mine are completely bogged down in construction. Drawing a face for me literally only works out 1/3 of the time. But I follow all the rules, I set out the proportions, and at the end of the day it doesn't come anywhere close to pleasant. I think I'm putting in way too much detail but I don't know how to really dial that back. I've tried watching Proko, I've studied Loomis and Hampton but they all amount to just too much detail compared to a simplified and solid portrait. My focus on construction ends up doing more damage than good I guess, but I don't know how to get around it otherwise.
>some pictures are older, where i had no idea about proportion, but I don't save 90% of the shitty portraits I draw so they were the best I could find. That charcoal one is like 3 years old

Also, I still have problems placing the far nostrils and eyes on the face. I barely ever know where to put them, and Loomis still confuses me a bit there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:12:39 2015 No.2142881 File: 370 KB, 1339x844, pic2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142875 This is actually much more recent. Most of these end up staying about the same way and I'm not sure where I go off the right track.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:14:42 2015 No.2142884 >>2142830 you're over designing characters instead of coming up with scenes for them to be in. You need to be more goal-oriented. I'd hate to see you turn into another aimless artist with no points of view. Write more. Draw less.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:20:36 2015 No.2142890 >>2142884 Er, this is just an ornamental image for a website, was never meant to have a background or to be interacting with anything, it's just there to look pretty. Thanks though.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:29:42 2015 No.2142901
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I'm trying a thing.
>>2140389
>>2140477
>>2142006
Really love the color direction these are going in
>>2142362
I wish I could learn how to render
>>2141967
Awesome! I think I'd like a little more definition in the ceiling closest to the foreground, just slightly more, but overall still really cool and way better than I could do for sure.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:32:52 2015 No.2142904

>>2142875
>what is this nigger talking about, these faces ar gr-
>wait, that's not him
I have the same issue, more or less. I can work with paint fairly decently, but with line it always turns out shitty. Far nostrils are the bane of my existence, and I'm never quite sure if my noses are where they're supposed to be.

To be honest, though, most of those noses on the left don't look quite right to me, either. I think it's a mental thing.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:39:25 2015 No.2142912

>>2142881
You should stop comparing yourself to artists that have put 100x the amount of work in than you, it will not end well, even if you're really good, there will always be someone who began earlier and is more talented and dedicated.

Learn anatomy of the body, try to imagine how light flows on the face, try to imagine the face as planes, learn and draw/paint every part of the face by itself in a lot of angles and create without reference, then go back and look what you did wrong, look at your own face, how it behaves in different light and how shit folds and everything.

It is basic advice but it's good advice, you will profit from following the rules, there have been a million people before you who followed them.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:40:07 2015 No.2142914

>>2142875
He might not be "bogged down in construction", but that's also why he forgot the cranium in the upper left head and the guy in uniform has strabysmus. Some of his eyes are misaligned (girl near the crease on the bottom of bottom left sketchobbok is the most blatant one). Etc.
Not trying to go full /ic/ on that artist, but just saying that while he probably did those at maximum speed and no construction, no construction ultimately leads even good artist to mistakes. So if yeah, you should still practice construction till you have internalized it to a good extent. Also I know this will sound pedantic at best, but practice basic forms. It's not just a beginner exercise, more advanced artists should use it to practice line economy. It helps your construction not look like an unholy mess if you get your ellipses right in a single sweep. That's one of the reason his faces look better (besides design).
By the way >>2142881 eyes are also misaligned.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:43:38 2015 No.2142917 >>2142760 I like the second one more but I prefer the circular eye of the first one

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:53:52 2015 No.2142927

>>2142890
if you are who i think you are everything you do is just there to look pretty.

i recognize that is why you drew it. I am telling you that's a bad reason to draw something if that's all the goals you've set for yourself in every drawing you make.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:55:32 2015 No.2142930

>>2142875
>>2142881
Maybe the construct you're using isn't that good. Maybe you aren't using the construct correctly. Maybe you're trying to force a given construct for an idealized head to match each and every head you study - not accounting for the variety that is out there. My money's on the last one mostly if you say your portraits only work out 1/3 of the time.

Here's my advice: Go find the artists whose portraits look simple and easy, and study their work. Try to recreate their heads using 2D shape measuring techniques, try to do it using forms and construction, and try to do it freehand without any measuring and planning. Try to get a feel for it. In fact, I'd try all three approaches for the same head, and see which of the three drawings is best and in what ways. Analyze how the process affects the final result.

Once you've done a bit of that, you'll likely assimilate design choices of the artist you admire - mostly those pertaining to simplification. Take this new knowledge with you, and go out and draw TONS of heads from life. Draw yourself in a mirror, draw friends and family reading, draw people in a coffee shop, draw people on the subway, draw people waiting in line, draw people relaxing on the beach. Draw people who are nearby and draw people who are 30ft away. Even if you only get a 5-10s glimpse before they move, draw what you remember. Observe the variety out there, pay attention to both the shapes and the forms you see, notice what's important and what isn't.

Most photos are terrible for learning to draw heads. When you retry learning from photos, try sticking with candid ones on the street. Something like these - tons of variety, simple lighting, real action and expression instead of staged poses:
http://oh-hi.info/2014_9-12/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:05:59 2015 No.2142946 >>2142890 Probably not. I rarely post on /ic/ and the very few times I did it wasn't hefty stylisation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:07:09 2015 No.2142948 >>2142927 Probably not. I rarely post on /ic/ and the very few times I did it wasn't hefty stylisation but random figures/exercises. And no, that is most certainly not my goal in where I want my art to be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:18:54 2015 No.2142969 File: 248 KB, 1117x520, dss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142710

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:21:45 2015 No.2142972 File: 592 KB, 1080x1776, bot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] been working on this for a couple of hours so far

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:34:40 2015 No.2142987
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>>2142006
tried another one today. I feel like the colours are getting there but the values kinda fell off. also not sure about the green in the bushes. I ended up painting over the whole thing because the original colours were so grey. :( I looked at some robh ruppel and tried to approach it more impressionistically. its nowhere close to done but my computer died

i need to pick better subject material, too this view is kinda boring

always open to crits. esp ones i didn't already list lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:39:32 2015 No.2142992 File: 334 KB, 703x1201, char.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:42:23 2015 No.2142995 >>2142969 You should really fix that jaw line before you get into rendering the features....

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:44:42 2015 No.2142996 >>2142992 Those are some really elongated body parts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:49:28 2015 No.2143004 File: 128 KB, 824x960, 10984091_383335385199901_6069865903380327044_n[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] opinions?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:56:40 2015 No.2143012 >tfw forever ignored

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:59:52 2015 No.2143018 >>2143012 Which one is yours, and if you are >>2143004 Relax, it's a slow board

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:00:16 2015 No.2143019 File: 237 KB, 1074x500, qwe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142995 Better?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:05:50 2015 No.2143028 >>2143019 His chin is going to spaaaace. Draw a cross across the face. You should see the issue immediately.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:08:01 2015 No.2143031 >>2143004 Lighting needs work. It's got that newbie airbushed look. Try blending with harder edge brushes with more transfer or whatever your program calls it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:11:12 2015 No.2143034

>>2143018
I'm >>2142901actually. I know it's a slow board and all but I usually get passed over whenever I post lol. Once I posted three wips over the course of two threads and never got a reply on it until after I had already finished on my own. I'm just kinda kidding around though, I got some really good help last time I posted.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:25:16 2015 No.2143043 File: 809 KB, 1976x1112, stilllifeapples.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] been working on this for at least 4 or so hours, tired of looking at it so i'm going to move on. what should i focus on improving with my digital stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:26:25 2015 No.2143046 File: 98 KB, 900x675, still_life_setup_by_jacksparrowsbabe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2143043 this is the ref, i'm new to digital so i'm still a bit clumsy with things

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:31:28 2015 No.2143054 >>2143019 this is marginally better the style is really cute! :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:33:04 2015 No.2143057 >>2143046 Doesn't look like you're new, that looks awesome to me. I've been trying to learn digital painting for two years at least and I've never managed to render anything that well.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:35:36 2015 No.2143059

>>2143034
Not that anon but I think you will get more responses if your pic weren't so dark. It's hard to see it all especially when just scrolling through quickly. Also I noticed that people tend to respond more if you post a specific question along with your art. And it's not really a bad thing to get no responses. If your piece is really awful someone will probably point it out or you might get a shitposter or two. Seeing as that hasn't happened I think you are Ok. As for crit the first thing I noticed was the extremely long head.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:37:57 2015 No.2143060 >>2143043 Holy shit. Can you post a process pic of those apples?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:43:59 2015 No.2143071 >>2143059 I usually do have a specific question but I just wanted first impressions on it.Thanks too, I'll try and fix the head and decide on a light color so I can brighten it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:48:49 2015 No.2143074 File: 145 KB, 644x500, ssd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2143028 Thanks again for the help. Beyond this I don't know how else to fix it. Does this help it read better?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:49:41 2015 No.2143076 File: 611 KB, 955x534, cave thing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kind of going for that ''gw2 loading screen'' kind of look. don't really know what to put on the left.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:55:44 2015 No.2143082 >>2143074 Yep, a definite improvement!

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:56:46 2015 No.2143083

>>2141934
Aside from the anatomy mistakes i'm loving the subject depicted. Is this original or fanart? I actually saved this, lol.

Other than this, I advise you to pick up an anatomy book that isn't Loomis (well, I assume you've read Loomis cause you have some of the basics down). You have issues with understanding joints, bones, muscle placement, overlapping, etc - basic figure knowledge on how parts of the body are connected. Especially when it comes to the arms. The way you've placed the deltoid is wrong and makes the arm look as it if we were looking at it from the side and not the top. Her ass shouldn't really look this way either (it's out of proportion) - if you want to depict this position you should know how the iliac crest looks, how the gluteus muscles are placed on top of it, and what specific form they'd adopt in that position. What about the sacrum? That's only an example. Then there's the elbows. As a result the picture looks very flat. The back, even in that position, even on a not-so-muscular girl, is not formless at all. I think Vilppu would do you well.

But it's good work, I think. Dunno about the light source or even whether you should paint it though, I mean - it's a difficult composition, you should fix the anatomy first. I say make some thumbnails first if you want to do a painting, it helps with establishing perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:58:58 2015 No.2143086 >>2141934 >>2143083 Forgot to mention that her head's position is also off due to you not really understanding how it's connected the neck

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:00:19 2015 No.2143089

>>2143057
>>2143060
Thanks guys! While I am very new to digital I've been drawing and painting traditionally for a couple of years now and pushing myself pretty hard.

As far as a process pic, I can't say I saved any pics of the process sadly, but I can tell you exactly what I did.

You see the unfinished skull shape at the top? The cream colored one? I blocked in the shapes of each element on a different layer (base, cloth, apples, skull) to keep things neat, and colored in the shape with a mid-tone so I know where to go to lighter and darker from. This is the way Sargent painted his portraits and some artists use this method instead of blocking in the darkest and lightest points.

Then I do a value study in only greyscale- a VERY fast value study. Maybe 10 minutes, this allows you to focus on the overall shapes than the smooth gradients of value.

I draw on top of my shapes slightly to fill in extra details (like the stem) and make sure to cover the drawing up with paint later, just like traditional painting. I focused on the big shapes first, blocks of yellow-green and orange-red contrasting against each other to capture the overall design of the apple, then i zoom in really close and make impressionistic strokes just like Ruan Jia does often in his paintings. This keeps the image looking painterly while still keeping it true to reality. Just keep grinding and doing that push-pull with the rendering, it sucks but it feels good when it turns out okay.

Just make sure you add color to the shadows, color temperature is the most important aspect of color theory in painting, it's what allows certain things to look right even when the hue itself is not correct.

That's all I know. Thanks for your compliments guys.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:07:42 2015 No.2143093 >>2143076 definitely put something on the left, maybe just give it another value? maybe something out of the picture is casting a shadow there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:24:34 2015 No.2143102 File: 657 KB, 1080x1776, bot2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142972 nearly done, open to crits and comments

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:44:05 2015 No.2143122

>>2143089
Thanks for the detailed reply. You've only been painting for a couple of years? Your work looks more experienced than that. If you don't mind sharing, what's your learning process? Are you at art school?

Also, are "impressionistic strokes" what's used to achieve those fine lines of alternating colours on the apples?

Thanks again for the process pointers.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:55:28 2015 No.2143127

>>2143122
Yeah I started in senior year when I took an art elective and then went to art school at RCAD for a year as a freshman and now I'm out for the summer before returning as a sophomore.

The impressionistic strokes i refer to are more of a kind of process where you look at the overall shape and put down that shape as a graphic, abstract thing (while squinting if necessary), and then zoom in and out rapidly while you look at the reference and back at the painting, trying to get the essence of the form, edges, color, and value by scribbling like a madman and zooming out so you can see if it worked or not. That's probably the best way I can explain it, hope it helps. Look at Ruan Jia's stuff! He's the best example when it comes to fine, impressionistic rendering,

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:04:59 2015 No.2143133 >>2143102 really flat n short

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:06:00 2015 No.2143135 File: 132 KB, 538x717, WP_000129.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm trying out new things considering shading. How am I doing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:34:17 2015 No.2143167 File: 285 KB, 1074x500, dude.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2143074 >>2142710 it took most of the day but I think i'm done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:38:46 2015 No.2143174 File: 356 KB, 1000x563, Limited.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished this today... Recently I've been trying to actually paint, (like not cartoon stuff) Anything I need to work on?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:59:28 2015 No.2143190 >>2141847 I love it man, any chance this is part of a comic you're working on? do you have a tumblr or anything else?

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:23:27 2015 No.2143206

>>2142930
Thank you so much for all the advice. And everyone else who responded (I'm on the phone and its being obnoxious sorry). Thats another problem I have, distant/small faces are hard as fuck to draw. Like damn near impossible, they never look right and look overlabored.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:23:48 2015 No.2143207 >>2141749 Post this in the question thread, it will get seen more there i think Here >>2142943

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:38:28 2015 No.2143217 File: 73 KB, 648x1152, Coyote-Don_Cuervo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140334 HALP!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:41:23 2015 No.2143219 File: 33 KB, 685x538, z550c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:44:32 2015 No.2143221 >>2140443 with fire, we shall kill it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:46:49 2015 No.2143222 >>2141934 i like where this is going.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:49:34 2015 No.2143227

>>2142746
its nice, but as far as interesting goes, its not the hardest subject matter to paint. so after grabbing my eye for a second, it loses it when i realize its just a rocket and the surface of a planet.
there is nothing else.
feels hollow after that.
maybe some city lights or an obvious other focus point other than "a rocket, look guyz a rocket"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:51:43 2015 No.2143229 >>2143167 the textures are working well in the background, but i feel as if the face could be tighter somehow. maybe drop some stronger highlights into the right portion of the face.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:54:44 2015 No.2143230 >>2143102 looks cool

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:02:06 2015 No.2143235 >>2142486 I don't know what this is and lack the proper eye to critique it, I fear, but I think it's cool and also that you should finish it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:16:30 2015 No.2143246 File: 284 KB, 1074x500, dude2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2143229 thanks for the tip. I like it more this way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:17:10 2015 No.2143247 >>2142769 This is really cool. I can't tell if it's supposed to represent something or is just an abstract design but the lines are strong enough to lead me to think it could be a stylized image of something but I think that plays to its merit

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:19:28 2015 No.2143249
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>>2143167
>>2143229
sorry bruh, tablet is not pluged in so i did this with mouse, but i hope you get what i mean via adding some stronger highlights. but not too strong as he is still in a buildings shadow, but stylistically strong enough to make him "poP" from the surrounding shadows.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:19:44 2015 No.2143251 >>2143246 Looks awful. The background is dis-proportionally better than the poorly stylized face.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:20:29 2015 No.2143253 >>2143249 >>2143246 lol, beat me to it. kek. your version of what i was sugesting looks much better

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:22:40 2015 No.2143256 >>2143249 thanks again man. I get what you meant. That's why I love coming on here. >>2143251 sorry you feel that way man. I'm still trying to get better so I know I won't be pleasing everyone yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:24:20 2015 No.2143258 >>2143246 one of your better ones.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:03:19 2015 No.2143283 >>2140354 what kind of redline is this >what you did was ok but heres something completely different even though its not my drawing >also I made her leg +foot look like a horse leg + hoof

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:07:06 2015 No.2143286

>>2141046
I think you should focus a little more on your understanding of values/form before tackling hand proportions. Shadings very simplistic, and you should be working on trying to lose the outline to make it look more realistic

not that theres anything wrong with outline, but as they say you need to learn the rules before you bend them

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:18:25 2015 No.2143290

>>2143251
maybe state why you think it's poorly stylized and what he should do to fix that?

>>2143246
>>2143246
I really like how this is coming out and I agree with the highlight/shadow suggestion from that other guy. Are you going to add a little more texture in the face once you have the shading down? some kind of detail just so it flows a bit more with the rest of the background/his shirt which has some level of texture over it. Adding something subtle like a few moles, some wrinkles, rouge hairs or what have you would look really cool

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:50:38 2015 No.2143313 File: 356 KB, 765x990, BOY-PSP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First study in a while

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:05:37 2015 No.2143321 File: 293 KB, 1074x500, dude3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2143290 Yeah it's not done yet. The nose in particular was too flat. >>2143313 whoa. Nice one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:20:18 2015 No.2143329 File: 101 KB, 540x897, 5 1 2 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] demoness heads

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:29:42 2015 No.2143336 >>2143329 Nice!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:47:43 2015 No.2143353 File: 93 KB, 850x791, invitation.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i call this one "Let the Right One In" tried to go for a Gary Larson vibe with it. Now that I look at it I think I should shade it it looks a bit too simplistic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:48:25 2015 No.2143354 >>2143353 i like it, it's really cute!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:23:11 2015 No.2143385 File: 103 KB, 1078x531, z550d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2143219

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:35:52 2015 No.2143395 >>2143329 Is this you catbib? The style itself is a little like Ruan Jia's

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:48:48 2015 No.2143401 >>2143395 Same What if...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:02:53 2015 No.2143414 File: 759 KB, 1079x1077, Screenshot_2015-07-05-21-48-04-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Critique? Any feedback welcome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:28:04 2015 No.2143425 File: 667 KB, 894x894, messyhair_by_lazergoblin-d902t48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140334 boom

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 03:04:09 2015 No.2143443 >>2142324 Noice >>2142460 Really muddy, but I dig it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 03:30:43 2015 No.2143458 File: 23 KB, 1042x538, z546.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2143247 thank you, i started with this abstract drawing, and i tink i was movinh to a figure, but i stopped

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 04:46:45 2015 No.2143509 >>2143425 god ew

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 05:28:10 2015 No.2143531

>>2141155
Well in my opinion, head structure is wonky. Probably blocky and doesn't fit with the rest of the body. Nose is off-putting, at least change some aspects of it. Your basic anatomy is alright. Follow good cartoonists etc and see methods they use. I usually save a bunch of artworks on my phone and study them and see what can be applied to my own drawings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 05:34:19 2015 No.2143535 >>2141616 Probably didn't get to elaborate before. The face needs refinement and alterations. Especially on that head structure. It's the only prominent part that looks absurd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 05:36:54 2015 No.2143537 >>2141732 Eyes are way too close together and are huge. Nose is too thin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 05:38:39 2015 No.2143539 >>2143329 Did you fucking draw this? I like it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:02:38 2015 No.2143569 >>2143329 bruh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:05:22 2015 No.2143573 File: 25 KB, 600x678, assburger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2141847 The guy looks like a young Spede Pasanen

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:05:54 2015 No.2143574 >>2143329 Stop trying to be Juan Ria

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:09:44 2015 No.2143575 >>2143574 only if you stop being jelly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:18:03 2015 No.2143578 >>2143574 atleast he'll make it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:19:14 2015 No.2143579 >>2143401 >What if... no no it cant be unless...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:23:12 2015 No.2143580 >>2143579 No way. Could it be...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:27:43 2015 No.2143582 >>2143579 >>2143580 Could it be that Ruanjia hacked Catbib's Deviantart and tumblr accounts and uploaded a sketch that looks just like Catbib's other work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:39:50 2015 No.2143616 >>2143227 Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I wanted to look into composition and storytelling anyway so I guess that's the next stop for me. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:41:13 2015 No.2143617 >>2143329 It's catbib!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:06:27 2015 No.2143696 >>2143582 nope, forget about jia he's working on halo now

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:07:05 2015 No.2143865
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>>2143190
thanks man :) i really want to, if i wasnt jumping around trying to do a little bit of everything at once..

http://powderfingers.tumblr.com/

heres another comic-ishy pic i drew of some british commandos terrorizing a german but its not inked yet

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:28:47 2015 No.2143892
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>>2143329
Hey catbib, nice rendering and edges as usual.

The top head though has some things that look a bit odd on it. I think some is intentional and some maybe not, but regardless of intent I feel it is not sitting well. I think it mostly has to do with the way the neck and head meet. I did a quick paintover changing this and also fixing some small things in the face and head shape.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 13:43:58 2015 No.2143910 >>2143336 >>2143539 >>2143569 thanks guys >>2143892 thank you for the paintover, you're definitely right about all those points and your paintover is a noticable improvement. thanks for taking the time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:44:20 2015 No.2144002 >>2143458 Yea, I got the vibe of some kind of figure. Makes me think of like an extra dimensional being or something. You have anything else like it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:51:18 2015 No.2144012 >>2142156 the face is really really wonky >>2142618 the mouth is on a weird perspective and the shadows from the glasses are really odd

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:58:19 2015 No.2144025 File: 33 KB, 615x616, z544.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2144002 idk if its what you are looking for, but usually, incomplete drawings give that impression, i like the idea, i like lovecraft

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:09:08 2015 No.2144033

>>2140355
Nice anon. Could use some directional lighting next time to make things more interestng.

>>2140537
Try blocking in the base values first, get them all in. Best to use a relatively hard brush for this. Then you can focus on transitions, edges, bounce light, etc etc. This way you bring the whole piece to a finished stage at the same time, instead of spending a long time on different areas at a time like you're doing, which can make you blind to problems with measurements.

Keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:11:11 2015 No.2144036 >>2143102 so clean I love it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:25:19 2015 No.2144044 >>2144025 Really cool stuff, you have like a tumblr or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:31:59 2015 No.2144049 >>2144044 thank you, nonerandomdraw dot blogspot dot com

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:37:28 2015 No.2144057
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>>2144033
Thank you alot, thats actually a good tip because I am indeed kind of getting stuck with some parts
seriously this is one of the best boards, even though alot of people browsing here a lazy slobs there are some guys who are willing to help other guys out

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:40:04 2015 No.2144059

>>2143910
By the way, I didnt mean the Ruan Jia style part as a critique, its a very technically refined and nice style, and I think you have some of it in your work. Youre uploading very rarely, may I ask why? I mean a guy on your level should be doing shit like crazy because it is always worth looking at

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:47:11 2015 No.2144064 File: 35 KB, 552x1203, char_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] r8 pls

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:48:26 2015 No.2144067

>>2144059
He probably only posts the successful sketches. Why would he upload the loads of things that he's not happy with? To be good you need to be very self critical, so probably there is stuff that may look good to you or me that he wouldn't dare show because he's not personally pleased with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:01:43 2015 No.2144081 File: 254 KB, 500x707, Ik3o84K.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finished finally :D Crits are still deeply appreciated, pointing out anything I might have missed and areas that need improvement for future reference adored, thank you! :D

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:07:00 2015 No.2144087 >>2144081 retarded composition

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:14:25 2015 No.2144098 >>2144087 i like it

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:14:55 2015 No.2144099

>>2144087
not the anon who posted that image but your post is fucking useless, what's retarded about it?

seems like they are using the usual thirds thing, trying to divide the canvas, bottom third is the floor the viewer is looking over, main figure is in the right side area of the canvas, within the first third of it vertically.

in other words...

post actual critique or fuck off.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:43:02 2015 No.2144134
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quick study

>>2144081
i like how theres a value gradient towards the chick but i think it could be emphasized a bit more, as well as in creasing the contrast on her to push the focal point. The second floor seems really flat and pasted on; the thick unrefined lines arent helping either. Also due to the fact that it's the same value and almost the same degree of saturation there's a bit of visual confusion of whats in front/behind, so i would mess with that.

>>2144064
wheres your light source fam. it seems like theres two most of the time but the other times it seems like theres one. also in some areas your reflected lights are just as bright as your highlights, that barely even happens in latex. define your forms, push your contrast and value groupings, and read this
http://www.huevaluechroma.com/021.php
the first part of scott robertson's how to render will help as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:48:06 2015 No.2144143 >>2144099 its retarded, so you fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:49:30 2015 No.2144146 >>2144143 >i'm retarded, so you fuck off ftfy hey this is fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:50:29 2015 No.2144147 >>2144146 hipsters will be always be faggots

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:53:49 2015 No.2144152
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i drew a big house they're building on the street.

took about 2 hours im Really happy with how the trees in the background came out and how i approached the stonework on the walls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:54:43 2015 No.2144154 >>2144152 haha fucking stupid, NICE TITLE FAGGOT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:56:08 2015 No.2144156 File: 24 KB, 400x279, 532f7cab1605fb12ef000001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2144154 what?!

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:56:52 2015 No.2144159

>>2144134
This is really close to being great, but it feels like a letdown because of some small issues. Mostly it is the edgework and some sloppy artifacts/overlaps of strokes. The entire piece feels sort of sloppy and rushed. Look at her neck, all those overlapping transparent strokes creating a mess of the forms and shapes, then the collar is jarringly sharp against it in a very geometric configuration. Which looks weird with the far shoulder being transparent strokes with a false soft edge. And in her hair there are a few random super hard edges, like you took the lasso took to it or something. The eyelashes have a soft edge, but it is not controlled or giving information, it looks like you took a texture brush and slammed it down over it to lose hte edge...yes, you may want to have it soft, but how much and how consistent across it all do you want that edge? What about hte values on her face, they are a little patchy. I think you can simplify the areas more and really control it. There are tons of other nitpicky things going on, I won't type them all up, but hte point is that they are all adding up to a major issue even if each on its own is not a big deal.

I think slowing WAY down, and thinking more, and really questioning yourself on every decision will make your portraits leap forward massively. Don't just make the eyelashes a soft edge because you saw linran or ruanjia do it once. Do it on your own accord and with understanding of why. Try to plan every since edge and brushstroke and value and texture in the entire image. See where you can get away with more simplification than you initially thought possible. See where you can't simplify because all the information is needed. See what you can come up with to push the image to a higher level.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:58:18 2015 No.2144162 >>2144152 Really nice. Why no shading bro?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:59:28 2015 No.2144164 >>2144081 water does not have that density, but good drawing m8, you should improve colors, no hue variations due to light, not even once

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:02:23 2015 No.2144169 >>2144134 I like it, you're the guy that made the OP picture too right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:03:29 2015 No.2144172 >>2144162 cause im a pussy when it comes to shading with ink. if it was pencil or i had a dip pen with different values i wouldn't be so scared but i wanted to try pen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:11:37 2015 No.2144190 File: 228 KB, 500x707, lesscummy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2144081 here. i made your water look less like cum. keep it simple in the future. there isnt much to water dont overthink it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:13:25 2015 No.2144194 >>2144134 >retarded looking model >eyes closed >faggot detected

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:14:24 2015 No.2144198

>>2144159
thanks man edge control is one of my weaker points, it's definitely something i should sit down and think more about. could you expand a bit more on what you mean by the face being patchy? i think that I was just trying to stay true to the reference image, but is there anything that looks very out of place?
>>2144169
yeah that's me
>>2144194
whats wrong with sucking dick

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:27:13 2015 No.2144219 File: 152 KB, 1589x708, yeboisss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2144087 Yeah seriously, go fuck yourself. Gj anon keep it up bruh. All i can do is sketch yo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:30:49 2015 No.2144224 >>2144190 Her butt is wrong. Read up on gluteus maximus. Her head, neck, and shoulders should be overlapping volumes since the viewer is from above; the way you drew them, they are flat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:37:28 2015 No.2144230 >>2144224 im not OP i just tried fixing the water in it for them.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:38:23 2015 No.2144233
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Mechanical Monday

Today I did geometric spacecraft. Mechanical Monday is proving to be my biggest challenge (although landscapes are up there as well.) This is my first time designing a spaceship. Difficult, but I learned a lot.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:46:14 2015 No.2144240
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>>2144198
Don't be afraid to make changes to your ref. If some shadow or highlight looks bad, then don't include it. If a shape would look better simplified then simplify it. I just spent a few minutes noodling on top, it's not the only way to take this image forward, but it's how I would approach it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:46:43 2015 No.2144241 >>2144240 >haha fucking gaaaaayyyy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:47:32 2015 No.2144243 File: 206 KB, 614x907, IMAG0531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] haven't posted in this place for a while. Dunno where to go from here, leave it as is or paint it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:49:43 2015 No.2144246 >>2144243 >haven't posted in this place for a while. you probably shouldn't post again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:56:31 2015 No.2144249 >>2144134 Thx, dude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:58:43 2015 No.2144251 >>2144246 Thanks for the suggestion pal :)

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:19:37 2015 No.2144273 >>2144057 My pleasure anon, hope it helps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:51:18 2015 No.2144294 File: 354 KB, 1322x636, z558.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] these are hard, halp!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:03:58 2015 No.2144303 Make new thread fagtrons.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:05:09 2015 No.2144305

>>2144257
Nice lines!

>>2144269
I like the perspective. That shadow on the far right is off perspective. Keep going!

>>2144294
Your proportions are off and your line quality is through the floor.

You have a grasp on drawing what you see, but you are not matching them close enough to really convey likeness. You are also in that deadzone where you can copy something, but you don't have enough familiarity with drawing to use appealing lines and shapes.

You need to draw more. Lots more. Fucking tons more. Until you are making your lines with only 1-3 fluid strokes, you are not at where you need to be confidence-wise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:08:43 2015 No.2144307 >>2144240 thank for the paintover much appreciated

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:09:20 2015 No.2144309 >>2144305 thanks man!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:04:45 2015 No.2144393 File: 325 KB, 1000x1000, 7-5clouds.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just some clouds tried to focus on markmaking

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 21:24:00 2015 No.2144404 >>2144393 >that softness oh baby

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:05:04 2015 No.2144439 new thread >>2144438 >>2144438

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 07:53:35 2015 No.2144750 >>2144241 >>2144194 >>2144154 Worst troll ever

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:12:26 2015 No.2144799 >>2144393 Just how? HNGGG

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 02:10:44 2015 No.2146790 File: 765 KB, 1000x1667, lolicowboy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2140334 1 hour in, will finish today, anything you don't like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:09:05 2015 No.2146875 >>2140879 good beginning push the forms more to give it depth

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 04:22:01 2015 No.2146883
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>>2142106
stop outlining the figure show more overlaps in the minor places of the figure, but its a great beginning!

>>2142144

Most impressionism was avant garde (done in the moment) so i would practice that if you want to get good at impressionism, also work on your perspective

>>2142175
very nice beginning! add more value to give it some depth

>>2142324
Very nice! i would push the form of the legs more (rectus femerus, vastus medius) but i like it!

>>2144257
This is great keep it up!

I don't have any new work on my pc so this is an old portrait

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