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2134913 No.2134913[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

I did not give Sakimichan my money for this.
Don't give her any shekels!

>> No.2134914
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>> No.2134915
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>> No.2134916
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>> No.2134917

>>2134914
kek, them boobs are shit

>> No.2134918
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>> No.2134921

>>2134917

i wonder if she cares her art is shitty as fuck? oh wait she is making half a million a year lmao... and that's just from patreon alone. jesus fucking christ.

>> No.2134922

>>2134913
So that's where she gets her money from. Horny losers who want to pay for a woman to draw nudes of the most generic pop-cultural characters.

>> No.2134924

>>2134917
I'm sure they would have looked better, if she had the chance to add shines or jizz dripping off her tits.

Otherwise, she seems she can't into boob anatomy for "normal" tits.

>> No.2134931

>>2134913
I actually found all of these images on Tumblr. I'm pretty sure that post is deleted by now. I don't know why I didn't share these sooner.

>> No.2134933

>>2134913
What does sakimichan look like? How do we know it isn't just a guy using his girlfriend to speak for him?

>> No.2134934
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2134934

so, anybody got this? :3

>> No.2134936

>>2134921
Zeronis is guilty of the same thing. I actually kind of like Zeronis too.

>> No.2134938

>>2134933
Someone posted a pic of her once in one of these hate threads. She was just an average asian, not super attractive but not ugly. Fairly unnoticeable.

>>2134934
Kek, that censor bar at the crotch is covering a really odd place. Is his dick bent up and back in a weird way??

>> No.2134940
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2134940

>mfw I am starting to get better than Sakimichan every day while she starts to stagnates behind her millions of dollars.

>> No.2134943

>>2134917
>>2134921
>>2134924
You morons could look in the upper left corner, you know. It's an edit.

>> No.2134944

>>2134938
Why did she cover the nipples? Also, she missed an opportunity to form a triforce with the censors.

>> No.2134945

>>2134943
hey moron i know that, thats why i called them shit m8

>> No.2134947

>>2134940
I honestly hope something happens where she loses a ton of her money. Let's start spreading her Patreon exclusives around the internet.

>http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/sakimichan/1

A lot of her NSFW Patreon exclusives can be found in the link above.

>> No.2134948

>>2134940
You wish.

>> No.2134951

>>2134947
The people willing to pay for this shit are obviously invested personally. If they just wanted the nudes, they wouldn't pay her hundreds or dollars, but the minimum amount.

>> No.2134952
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>>2134948
If I learn to polish and pander like her I would be right up there. I believe it.

>> No.2134953

>>2134947
been looking for this for a while now. thanks anon

>> No.2134954

>>2134947
Why would you attempt to sabotage another person's success? I really can't understand your mindset. It's the ultimate form of jealousy and pettiness.

>> No.2134955

>>2134954
Because she really doesn't deserve her success and is using a cheap tactic to get $55K+.

>> No.2134956

>>2134954
IKR?

It's pathetic.

>> No.2134957

>>2134952
I think pandering is good to build a fanbase. After you've built up a large fanbase, you should stop pandering so much.

>> No.2134958

>>2134955
Who are you to say that she doesn't deserve? She knows how to do her market. Get better at it fagboy.

Wouldn't you be doing the same thing in her place?

>> No.2134960

>>2134958
See >>2134957

>> No.2134961

>>2134955

>doesn't deserve her success

A lot of people would say artists don't deserve money period. Thankfully we live in a society where some dipshit doesn't dictate to people who or what they spend their money on.
It isn't coming out of your pocket, it's coming out of some other idiot's who is happy to give it away, so it's none of your damn business, is it?

That said, I don't mind you posting her Patreon exclusives, though doing it explicitly for the reason of fucking with her is retardedly vindictive.

>> No.2134962

>>2134958
>Wouldn't you be doing the same thing in her place?

Not that guy, but that's a pretty sad mentality to have.
Most great artists become successful because they follow their own path. Granted, I don't know if Sakimichan is pandering or not. I think she genuinely is that shallow, and likes to draw the shit that she does.

>> No.2134965

>>2134962

If I were in that place, I'd take in that cash while I can.

Hell, do it for a few years and you've got a war chest for when you decide to pursue your personal stuff that might be less profitable. I don't know how old she is, but I highly doubt she's going to croak any time soon, so taking advantage of people throwing money at you for a few years isn't a bad idea. You never know when that well might run dry.

Shallow? Maybe. But you ask many people on /ic/ "should I do art?" most will say "fuck no, get a job that pays."
She's got a job that pays.

>> No.2134966

>>2134955
Who's to say who is deserving or not? Thousands of people are willingly paying her. Seems more legitimate to me than some CEO setting a giant salary for himself even if his role at the company is almost non-existent at that point. Do you complain about every actor or athlete who makes millions? Do they not deserve it? If there are enough fans willing to pay money then I think it is deserving. Maybe you don't like it, and that's fine, then just don't support it. End of story.

>> No.2134968

>>2134962
But what if she is pandering?

She probably do it for some Bucks, given people what they like, while probably doing some side personal jobs.

Seriously, it's so fucking petty see people talking what artists should or shouldn't draw.

>> No.2134971

Would /ic/ bitch nearly as much if she got a well paying job as a concept artist or something?
How is that not also pandering to someone? You're getting paid for a product where it doesn't matter if YOU want to do it, you're doing it because you get paid. It's called having a profession, and it doesn't matter who pays you. Sakimichan has simply democratized the process and done very well for it as a result.

>> No.2134975

>>2134971
>Would /ic/ bitch nearly as much if she got a well paying job as a concept artist or something?

Yes.

>> No.2134976

Sakimichan is a marketing genius who deserves every cent she makes.

Yes, her art is painfully bland.
Yes, there are thousands of better artists than her.

BUT,
She works hard and constantly produces work for her fans on an almost daily basis. You lazy fucks just waste your useless time on this shitty board bitching about anyone more successful than you.

Deserve it? She deserves every penny. What you pathetic whiny dregs deserve is to work your shit ass off until one day, you can dream of coming anywhere near 1% of the success Sakimichan does.

TL;DR your art fucking sucks, you are a useless piece of shit and your dreams of living off your art are hiliarious at best, fucking sad at worst.

(Not everyone, I'm glad there are some people in this thread who aren't pathetic jelly fucks like this dumbass >>2134947)

>> No.2134977

>>2134947

She draw things that people like to see, and they are pying her for it!

What a fucking nazi!

Seriously, I first wanted to say that I hope that you never had sucess with your art...but I realizado that it would be as petty as you.

I just hope that some day you learn to don't be so jealous.

>> No.2134978
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2134978

why nobody posts the guys? is it because the oppresive patriarchy?

>> No.2134979

Aren't you faggots tired of having the same fucking argument over and over and OVER AND OVER?
>waahhh she's plateauing yet she's successful
>waahhh you're just jealous
>post your art faggot
>fanart is for scum

fucking stop already.

>> No.2134980

>>2134977
>shitskin detected.

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>>2134979
Eye don't think they will do that.

>> No.2134983

>>2134979
First time on /ic/ I doesn't even know that these discussions are common.

>>2134980
I'm not fan of her works tho.

I just found the behavior patethic.
I would sua the same for any artist.

>> No.2134984

>>2134976
This

Sakimichan makes a living off her art which most of /ic will only dream of doing. Whether or not someone personally finds her art attractive is irrelevant to her success in this strange and backwards industry.

Learn from her success and learn from her mistakes. Stay smart /ic

>> No.2134987

Just shut up y'all and post more males.

>> No.2134991

*sniff sniff*
I smell jealousy.

>> No.2134992

>>2134987
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.2134993

Normally I don't really care what Sakimi does, but all of these breasts except for this one: >>2134914 all look like they are filled with silicone and hard.

Also, >>2134978 bothers me so much. It's like his penis is too high or something.

>> No.2134994

>>2134968
>>2134965
I'm not really enraged by the fact that she's making money. I'm just surprised.

The amount of money she makes simply isn't reflected in the quality or content of her work. It's just gaudy, superficial shit. Then again, that seems to be what the millennials and modern, self-proclaimed geeks love. Just look at Blizzard.
Bottom line, I don't like her art and think her fanbase is retarded, but it's not something that bothers me. I can understand that some people would lash out at her though, as that happens to every single person with any kind of fame.

As for myself, I wouldn't pander. However, if I had the ability to produce content on a regular basis and work on art 8 hours a day, I think I could build up a moderately successful Patreon. Granted, there are plenty of artists that would consider my art superficial and shallow, so I guess I shouldn't complain about her.

>> No.2134995

>>2134993
>It's like his penis is too high or something
wow. it is. do you think she needs a submisive male to be used as an erect penis reference model? perhaps i still got a chance

>> No.2134996

>>2134991
Do you have any idea how stupid this makes you look? Every fanbase in the world uses this argument, as if the only reason to dislike someone is jealousy.
You sound like a Belieber.

>> No.2134998

>>2134996
Seems legit in this particular case tho.

Just read the fagboys complaining.

The artist is not perfect, but she knows how to do marketing and how to give people what they want. She is paied for it, and it's not wrong you know?

>> No.2134999

There's one thing that's got me wondering. Is it even legal to make money off of fanart? Commissions tend to be low profile, so they usually get away with it, but is it actually legal to blatantly make a career out of drawing copyrighted characters?

>> No.2135000

I think its great she sells her patreon rewards on gumroad for those who still want smut of their favorite characters but don't want to rip her off on patreon by downloading her hard work for free and then pulling out.

>> No.2135001

>>2134913
every artist understands that piracy is a kind of flattering. not everybody's got leisure capital.

also, i don't think that anybody that really cares for her patreon stuff has had problems getting it for free at the usual places.

>> No.2135002

>>2134998
>The artist is not perfect, but she knows how to do marketing and how to give people what they want.

Yes, and that's what bothers people. It's a combination of the shallow content and marketing. It's more a hatred of the retarded community that supports her, than the artist herself.
The reason this argument always falls on its ass, is because you can find other artists who make just as much money that these people don't hate. If it was jealousy, it would be universal, and not directed at specific people.

>> No.2135005

>>2135001
You'll never know the feeling of being pirated. Feels good.

>> No.2135006

>>2135002
Why hate someone because of that? I don't like her art, and I just give a fuck for it.

Wasting time being personally offended by it seems really petty and childish.

Also, what is shallow art? It's just fanart. Millions of people do that, usually for fun. She gives them what they are paying her to do.

>> No.2135009

>>2135002
Also....why an artist should be bothered by other artist drawing for other people?

>> No.2135010

>>2135006
>Why hate someone because of that?
Are you serious? Is this your first time on the internet, or interacting with anyone ever? Personally, I don't give a fuck about her, but given how the world works, I can see why people hate her.

>Also, what is shallow art? It's just fanart.
Seriously?

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>lpls pay for my "porno" content
>just slap a dick/boobs on already made pictures

and this is supposed to be sexy?

>> No.2135016

>>2135010
OK, I will put it in other way: wasting time cultivating negative emotions for such small thing just seems ridiculous for me.

I mean, look at some coments. I hated Justin Bieber, but I never was like "huahuahua I WILL DESTRIOY YOU BIEBER, I WILL DESTROY YOU hauhauhau!!!!!!!"

Seems like lack of emotional maturity for me.

>> No.2135019

>>2135016
It's better to spend my time trying to get better, instead of complaining about other people sucess on internet.

>> No.2135022

>>2135016
And, once again, welcome to the internet.
If you came to 4chan, an anoymous board known for its vocal and highly critical community, and expected people not to complain about the Justin Bieber of the art world, then I honestly don't know what to say.

>> No.2135028

>>2135022
To be sure, people on 4chan complain about everything. Some people cry like they were from fucking Tumblr.

I saw that girl sucess in a different way tho: if she could live with her art, even not being that great, maybe I could too one day. I just need to improve, be better than her, and know how to work my marketing.

I just don't get bothered by other people being payed to do a shity work that they were expected to do. Fuck who paied.

As said here
>>2134984
Learn from her sucess and learn from her mistakes.

>> No.2135029

>>2134913
Sakimichan does what she needs to do to get the money and that's not only totally fine but iven smart. Make a lot of money now...and do what you like once money isn't an issue anymore.
What i don't get is who in their right mind finds these paintings even remotely attractif? I just don't get it. Everythings screams at my senses. These paintings just make me feel ill just by looking at them.

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>>2134913
FUCKING BASED PORNTREON

>> No.2135033

>>2135028
If you want her success, you also need to follow her model. Do fanart of popular characters, and throw in some porn every now and then.

You got to know your market, before you can do any marketing.

>> No.2135034

>>2134995
You know, with the amount of money she makes, I'm surprised she doesn't hire some models. She can basically get paid a shit ton to do life painting. It would teach her a lot and also let her pump these out faster and at a higher quality.

>> No.2135050
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does she got spoken tutorials on the nude ones?

i wanna hear her sweet shy voice explaining how to render a sweaty, veiny penis.

>> No.2135055

>>2135050
That is one awkward pose...

>> No.2135060

>>2135034
>She can basically get paid a shit ton to do life painting.
What? First of all, what makes you think she can do life painting?
Second of all, she's making 60k a month, doing shitty fanart. How the fuck is life painting supposed to compete with that?

>> No.2135063

>>2134978
This is the male version of stomach vagina.

>> No.2135065

>>2135050
Either Cloud got butt implants or Sakimi has no idea how to draw legs.

>> No.2135066

Her greatest strengths are her work ethic and speed. I wish I could produce as much as she does.

>> No.2135068

>>2135066
That's the only thing I'll give her, and that I genuinely envy.

>> No.2135070

>>2135068
that's precisely the only thing you need to get gud, and the one everybody at /ic/ lacks

>> No.2135079

>>2135070
A big part of the reason there are so many failures in modern society, is because of the modern lifestyle that revolves around the internet. There are too many distractions, and too easy to live life inside, disconnected from the outside world.
People don't realize that if you live your life in front of your computer, it's going to have an effect on your mind. Humans aren't made to live isolated, where every day is the same as the next. Some people thrive in this environment, but these people are few. I think most /ic/ type artists who live like this would benefit from having a normal social life and interests outside the house, while having a dedicated time and place to work on their art. In other words I think having a studio or office to work in, free from distractions, would greatly benefit most people who struggle with motivation and work ethics.

>> No.2135087

the poses look like she drew the head first then added the body onto it.

>> No.2135108

Is she actually bad at rendering tits or are these bad shops by anons?
>>2134918
This looks in line with everything else
>>2134914
>>2134978
These two are so off in rendering quality/style from everything else

>> No.2135115

>>2134955
Drawing the kind of art you enjoy looking at and selling it isn't a cheap tactic, it's business.

>> No.2135118

>>2135079
This post is stupid, the Internets the reason you know of so many failures not the reason they exist.

The masses have never achieved anything, the old masters got good despite being dirt poor in some of the most squalid cess pools while millions like them got no where.

>> No.2135137

>>2134978
THE DICK IS SEMI TRANSPARENT

>> No.2135141

>>2135118
I'm not talking about masters, I'm talking about normal people in this generation. Before the internet, you couldn't sit inside all day, because you'd be bored to tears. You either had to go out and meet friends, or get a hobby. If you got a hobby, there weren't nearly as many direct distractions as there are now, apart form TV.

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soon 30k!

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>>2135050
>>2134978
>lesbians in charge of drawing penises

>> No.2135154

>>2135152
Dicks aside, the poses are just fucking awkward to look at. It's one thing when a woman poses with her tits out, but it looks weird when the guys are doing dramatic poses with their boners out.

>> No.2135155

>>2134914
this looks shooped, what is going on with the lighting on her left arm and tit?

>> No.2135159

>>2135149
>mfw she had my artwork posted on her feed
>feelsgoodman

>> No.2135160

>>2135155
>this looks shooped
No shit. It says so in the fucking picture.

>> No.2135161

>she giggles and struggles to say 'nipples' in her training videos
>draws massive cock and tits with ease

lmao shes soooo cute xD
i'm poor, living in a trailer and haven't had solid food to eat for 2 days straight now but i'm giving $5 to her patreon. she deserves it for these brave drawings against the patriarchic male-dominated art industry.

>> No.2135168

Threads like this always show exactly who has the mindset to make it in this industry and who doesn't

Has a chance of making it:
>"Wow, some artists can make up to 60.000$ per month and don't have to be god-tier amazing skill-wise, this is great news!"

Won't ever make it:
>"This cunt doesn't deserve her money, I hope she loses everything, commercially successful mediocre artists shouldn't exist!"

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>ic still being mad that she makes money despite not being able to draw
>never change ic

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>>2135161
I know neckbeards like you really need this "us vs them" narrative, but Sakimichan isn't actually liked much by tumblr femnazis at all. Not only is she constantly objectifying and sexualizing women with her illustrations, she got majorly burned by Tumblr a couple of years ago for "whitewashing" their nigga Korra.

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>look on dA
>see several saki ripoffs and copycats

>> No.2135175

>>2135169
>can't draw for shit
>projects it onto /ic/

Speak for yourself faggot.

>> No.2135190

>>2135171
reminds me of mike azevedo

>> No.2135192

>>2135171
Getting tumblr mad at you is a great way to get exposure through all those dumb blogs.

>> No.2135197

>>2135141
You most certainly could sit inside all day, shut ins aren't some kind of new concept.
Sure a lot less people make it big doing anything but that's because it's a lot harder to succeed these days, the internet has very little to do with it.

>> No.2135203

Are.... these real?

I didn't know she was a porn artist? that 60k/month kinda loses its value to me now

>> No.2135204

>>2134951
Lmao no, buck-o. Have you ever seen the pathetic losers that pay for furry porn? They pay hundreds, thousands for some furry dick in cartoon horse's drippin vaj.
These people just want n00ds of pop culture characters while bating to the fact that a qt asian female drew these pictures.

>> No.2135205

>>2135203
You have to pay her $10 a month to get the porn. Seedy business model.

Also, what's the fucking point of having a 2 week payout, rather than once a month? Does it trick stupid people into thinking it's less?

>> No.2135206

>>2135205
Nevermind. I think I get it. She makes one picture every 2 weeks, and that's what you're paying for.

I retract my earlier statement about her having good work ethics.

>> No.2135207

>>2135204
You're just reinforcing my point. If they simply wanted the pictures, I'm sure they pop up elsewhere.

>> No.2135210

>>2135159
>she had my artwork posted on her feed

Post it please

>> No.2135212

>>2135197
>shut ins aren't some kind of new concept.
As a widespread concept, yes they are. This is common knowledge. The internet has created a venue where people can fill their minimum requirements for social interaction and entertainment, along with a billion other distractions.

>> No.2135213

>>2135207
Getting things while their still fresh out the oven gets people excited and feeling warm. They most likely pay her so they can get her art asap.

>> No.2135216

>>2135169
>despite not being able to draw

She is literally a better artist than 99.8% of /ic/.

>> No.2135217

>>2135203
>I didn't know she was a porn artist?

She isn't? Not sure why people keep calling NSFW cheesecake and beefcake "porn" on here. Are you guys all underaged virgin nuns or something that you'd consider naked chicks and dudes in sexy poses porn?

>> No.2135218

>>2135210
you first

>> No.2135219

>>2135212
As a wide spread concept they aren't.

>> No.2135222

>>2134913
I think I get why this style looks so garish and bland to me. She paints as if she's making an ad for some kind of product aimed at women.
Seriously, look up "makeup ad" on google image search. It's that dead-eyed, glossy look with no personality, combined with a stiff studio pose.

That same kinda goes for kr0n. No wonder, really, considering how he loves to copy movie posters and marketing materials.

>> No.2135223

>>2135219
So you're too young to remember a world without the internet. Gotcha.

>> No.2135224

>>2135217
Majority of people would consider it pornography, yes. What you're saying literally fits the fucking definition of it.

>> No.2135225

>>2135217
Well, it's softcore porn.

>> No.2135227

>>2135223
You're one of those people who watched idiocracy and got concerned that it might happen in the real world aren't you?

>> No.2135229

>>2135217
>consider naked chicks and dudes in sexy poses porn?

Yes, and no ones being a prude about it. Just because you furiously masturbate to transvestite interracial amputee shit or whatever doesn't change the fact that what he/shes doing is still pornography.

>> No.2135234

>>2135217
Something created for the purpose of arousal is porn by definition.

That includes those half naked for man calanders and the like though.
In sakis case it's meant to be more cutesy erotic than cum slavery erotic.

>> No.2135236

>>2135227
You're one of those morons who only uses binary logic, aren't you? Saying that modern culture and the internet have created more shut ins, is the same as saying that everyone will become a shut in. Naturally.

>> No.2135238

>>2135224

I guess life drawing classes must be orgies to you.

>> No.2135239

>>2135236
>Saying that modern culture and the internet have created more shut ins, is the same as saying that everyone will become a shut in

Not him but that makes no sense what so ever. Those points are not the same at all.

>> No.2135241

>>2135239
Yes, it's called sarcasm, considering the guy I was replying to was trying to make that point.

>> No.2135242

>>2135217

she draws dudes with an erection


ERECTION

>> No.2135243

>>2135241

Shit my bad.

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>>2135234
>Something created for the purpose of arousal is porn by definition.

So pic related is porn? Gil Elvgren and all other oldschool pinup artists were porn artist?

>> No.2135245

>>2135229
People seem to be confused by that word. As far as I recall, porn has to involve visual depiction of the genitals during sexual stimulation. So nudity without sex isn't porn, and sex without showing the genitals isn't porn.

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2135247

>>2135244
What about Frazetta? Was Frazetta a porn artist?

>> No.2135248
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>>2135247
What about this? Is this porn?

>> No.2135251

>>2135245
Just because people aren't getting it on with a dog or a horse or getting fucked by a 60-ton truck doesn't mean it isn't pornography. Porn is just meant to arouse the viewer, if it is softcore or hardcore doesn't matter.

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>>2135210
your turn

>> No.2135254

>>2135251
In that case, you're porn, because I'm getting hard.

>> No.2135255

>>2135254


tag! you're porn!

>> No.2135256

>>2135248
>>2135247
It's called SOFTCORE PORN, the thing you get boners over when you're 12.

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>>2135251
Stop your hyperbole you retarded fuck. No one is talking about whatever depraved fetishes you are projecting onto others. Vanilla intercourse is clearly porn if the genitals are visible. No one is talking about dogs or horses or whatever disgusting shit you are into.

If your definition of porn is "created for the purpose of arousal" then fucking EVERYTHING that is remotely sexy has to be considered porn. Do you seriously consider any of the images posted above your post to be pornographic in nature?

>> No.2135262

>>2135259
They could technically be considered pornographic yes.

>> No.2135264

>>2135259
>autistic

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>>2135256
>mfw according to /ic/, Frazetta was a softcore porn artist

/ic/ never fails to reach new levels of retardation.

>> No.2135267

>>2135262
Yer a womans, ain'tcha?

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>>2135264
indeed you are.

>> No.2135274

>>2135265
If a picture is drawn with the intent to sexually arouse people = Porn

It's not that hard to understand.

>> No.2135279

Please post more of the guys.

>> No.2135280

Is there going to be a time where I come to /ic/ and there isn't 6-7 sakimichans threads.

Literally, every week there is a thread about her. WTF do people even talk about in these threads?

>> No.2135282

>>2135280

*When I come to /ic/

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>>2135274
You are wrong. It's not that hard to understand. Pic related doesn't even show any tits nor genitals, yet it was clearly drawn to sexually arouse. No one in their right mind would possibly call this porn.

>> No.2135284

>>2135280
Passive aggressive jealousy.
At least I can admit that I'm not even close to her level and I'm jealous that I don't receive appreciation proportional to my level, if he have Sakimi as a measure.

>> No.2135285

>>2135238
You should search up the definition first before posting.

>> No.2135286

>>2135253
Kek

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>>2135274
>porn

>> No.2135289

>>2135283
IT'S CALLED SOFTCORE PORNOGRAPHY YOU FROTHING RETARD, we even have a board for this shit, it's called >>>/e/

>adjective
>1.
>of, relating to, or containing sexually arousing depictions that are not fully explicit:

Jesus Christ, I have never met anyone this dense.

>> No.2135290

>>2135283
There's a name for it, it's called ecchi.

And Frazetta was clearly a softcore fanatsy porn artist.

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>>2135285
Sorry, too busy fapping to all this porn I never knew I had saved.

>> No.2135293

>>2135253
Underrated post.

>> No.2135294

>>2135291
Just admit you're wrong, at least. Hell, go search up the definition and see how
>Are you guys all underaged virgin nuns or something that you'd consider naked chicks and dudes in sexy poses porn?
fits the damn textbook definition.
>but muh pictures aren't explicit!
Then it's just cheesecake/beefcake, eechi, softcore, etc (I'd personally consider the latter two more towards the nsfw scale though.)

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>>2135289
yes, yes, I agree, everyone is a porn artist. Pic related, some sweet Ruanjia softcore porn.

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>Moebius was porn artist!
>porn/ero
>insult
Looks like putting poonos into vagooo IRL will be pretty traumatic for some anons from /ic/

>> No.2135299

>>2135295
Yes keep strawmanning, we'll get your point eventually, I'm sure.

>> No.2135301

>>2135294
>Then it's just cheesecake/beefcake, eechi, softcore, etc

Are you genuinely mentally challenged or something? Literally one sentence before the one you quoted I wrote:

>Not sure why people keep calling NSFW cheesecake and beefcake "porn" on here

Calling images that are clearly cheesecake / beefcake / erotica / pinup art etc "porn" is what I was complaining about in the first place. Holy shit, I really can't deal with the idiocy of this board sometimes. Thread hidden.

>> No.2135303

>>2135301
>Calling images that are clearly cheesecake / beefcake / erotica / pinup art etc "porn" is what I was complaining about in the first place.
Have you been outside? That's what people call it in the real world.

>> No.2135306

>>2135301
Porn is not an evil word you autist, it's a fucking word used to describe things.

>> No.2135309

>>2135299
How is that a strawman. You make a ridiculous claim about how everything that's even remotely meant to be sexually arousing is porn, and he posts something that fits those criteria.

>> No.2135310

>>2135309
It's technicalities, no I wouldn't consider a suggestive butt for PORN, but technically it is softcore porn.

It's the literal definition, there's nothing more to discuss.

>> No.2135311

>>2135253
You made it bro

>> No.2135312

>>2135310
No. Softcore porn was a term that was invented to describe porn that doesn't show genitals.

As far as the definition goes:
pornography; sexually explicit videos, photographs, writings, or the like, produced to elicit sexual arousal (often used attributively):

It specifically states it's sexually explicit.

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>>2135312
>It's invented so it doesn't count

>> No.2135317

>>2135301
>Not sure why people keep calling NSFW cheesecake and beefcake "porn" on here
Because that's what it is. Search up the definition of pornography.

Christ. For one who calls others retarded, you sure aren't so smart yourself.

>> No.2135318

>>2135244
>pin ups
>pictures of attractive women, often playboy centerfolds that were pinned to a wall
>are they porn?

I dunno man, you tell me?

>>2135236
No, that's not what I was getting at.
I was just dispelling a widely circulated myth regarding the internet. There are people who genuinely believe that those who could have made something of themselves didn't because the Internet was there to distract them. Despite the existence of shuts in for years before the internet.

For every love craft living with his mother and becoming a legendary author there were millions of stay at home sons who did nothing with their lives.

>> No.2135319

>>2135314
>strawman

You also seem to ignore the rest of the post, which defines porn as something more than anything that causes sexual arousal.

>> No.2135321

>>2135318
>I was just dispelling a widely circulated myth regarding the internet.
Failures always come up with excuses.

>> No.2135322

>>2135318
>There are people who genuinely believe that those who could have made something of themselves didn't because the Internet was there to distract them.

Except this is correct. Just because shut ins existed, doesn't mean the internet hasn't created more. And once again you're showing your retarded binary way of thinking. It's not all or nothing. It's some.

>> No.2135325

>>2135319
Except the definition of softcore pornography is right >>2135289 here.

It literally describes the kind of pictures he posted perfectly and guess what it's called?

SOFTCORE PORNOGRAPHY.

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>>2135256
Porn is anything made for the SOLE purpose of sexual arousal. Getting aroused by the birth of venus doesn't make it porn.
Softcore pornography is the above, but without explicit penetration.

pic related, something being sexual doesn't make it porn
>inb4 tumblr
Literally googled whole nine yards.

>> No.2135328

>>2135327
I agree, you are correct.

>> No.2135329

>>2135325
Again, it refers to sex, like I said earlier.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/softcore

>showing or describing sex acts but not in an extremely open and shocking way

It specifically says "sex acts". Not clothed person who makes a sexy pose.

>> No.2135331

>>2135329
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/softcore?s=t

It does though, stop cherry picking from shitty sources.

>> No.2135333

>>2135331
Shitty sources? Yeah, I guess your random internet dictionary holds more weight than the defining US dictionary of the past 180 years.

>> No.2135334

>muh freedom
>muh shitty dictionaries

>> No.2135335

>>2135322
No nut sack, I'm saying people who can be distracted will be.
The Internet at best provided an excuse for failure when something else would have before its existence.

Furthermore it can be said that ease of communication and information which would have normally been out of reach before the Internet has improved a persons chance of sucess/ ability to socialize.

>> No.2135337

>>2135333
>Meriam-Webster
lmao
http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/183898?redirectedFrom=softcore#eid21959749
Oxfords dictionairy says the same thing, Softcore is a wide term and can be applied to anything remotely sexually suggestive that is not hardcore pornography - yes, sexy poses too.

>> No.2135341

>>2135335
I'm fucking stumped. You actually believe that having constant access to entertainment and pseudo-social interaction in your home, has had no bearing on how people behave?
As I've said twice already, your thinking is entirely binary, like some kind of autist.

>> No.2135342

>>2135337
Are you retarded? Your link says the follow: less obscene than hard-core pornography

And pornography is defined as: The explicit description or exhibition of sexual subjects or activity in literature, painting, films, etc., in a manner intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic feelings; printed or visual material containing this.

So it involves sex. Softcore involves less explicit sex.

>> No.2135348

>>2135342
No it does not you sad fuck, try go on any porn site and search softcore porn; you'll find girls showing off their tits and doing sexually suggestive poses and occasionally they will masturbate too. You never see softcore porn with people having actual sex, NEVER.

But okay let us look at another source then; http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=softcore
>1) Pornographic material that does not show penetration, genitalia, or actual sexual activity, opposite of hardcore.
>or actual sexual activity
Urbandictionairy is literally the normies dictionairy.

If this doesn't convince you, nothing will.

>> No.2135349

>>2135341
The debate wasn't over if it's affected how people behave.
As a general rule of thumb if your argument requires the shifting of goal posts it's objectively wrong.

>> No.2135352

>>2135348
>You never see softcore porn with people having actual sex, NEVER.
lelwat
Evan Stone, Angel Long, Silvia Saint and a shitload of others are famous for their softcore stuff. How young are, have you never seen the porn they show on TV?

>> No.2135354

>>2135352
Actually yes, I take that back, I was thinking about the Softcore AV idols, my point still stands though, if that can be called softcore it means there's no need for sex to be present to be called softcore pornography.

>> No.2135356

> arguing about what constitutes porn on an art board instead of doing studies and drawing

I shouldn't be surprised considering the place we're at, but this is ridiculous. No wonder the lot of you are shit.

>> No.2135359

>>2135356
>not drawing as you occasionally look up and see if they have responded
It's not that hard you know.

>> No.2135364

>>2135354
You're right. However, sexual arousal needs to be its sole purpose.

Drawing a set of tits for your hf account is drawing porn. Doing a study of a set of tits is not.

Also, by your standards, a video of a fully clothed toothless nun suggestively slobbering over a banana could be argued to be softcore porn.

I'm not even sure what you two are debating but nudity is not porn.

>> No.2135365

>>2134914
This is shopped, OP got this from exhentai, not patreon

>> No.2135367

>>2135348
Urban dictionary.
Yeah, now you're fucking reaching for straws, you ignorant cunt. I'm guessing you're too young to remember, but softcore porn generally referred to the non-explicit shit they showed on cable before, with tits and simulated sex, but no genitals. That's what he's referring to be no "actual sexual activity".
Furthermore, by your definition, every webcam slut would be a pornographic actress.

>> No.2135370

>>2135050

Those abs look inverted. Like he has negative abs or something.

>> No.2135371

>>2135364
>Drawing a set of tits for your hf account is drawing porn.
No, it's not.

>> No.2135371,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>2135364
Yes, I fully agree with you, a study of a pair of tits with the intent of getting better at drawing is definitely not pornography.

Drawing a set of tits with the intent to arouse people could be considered softcore porn.
>>2135367
>Uses Meriam-Webster as a source
>WOW URBAN DICTIONAIRY?? REALLY????
It's is literally the definition of words that are most commonly accepted in the world; the majority; basically most people in the world would say you're wrong.
>>2135371
See above.

>> No.2135371,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>2135371,1
Suck a cock dude.