How do you support yourself?

[Anonymous No.2117994]

For those of you spending the majority of your time studying, how do you pay the bills? Do you live with mom? Do you have a day job? Commissions? How do you make ends meet while spending the majority of your time drawing?

[Anonymous No.2117998]

>>2117994
>majority of your time studying
dats a myth

[Anonymous No.2117999]

Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money Get money

[Anonymous No.2118001]

Life supports art. Day jobs are a practical reality.

[Anonymous No.2118002]

fuck bitches, get money.

[Anonymous No.2118020]

>>2118002
if you're on 4chan, fucking bitches probably costs you money.

[Anonymous No.2118058]

>>2117994
>the majority of your time studying,
How much is a majority? I just answered this in another thread, I do 2-3 hrs every 3-4 days, but it is a majority of my free time.

>how do you pay the bills?
Spouse pays the bills because I don't know how

>Do you live with mom?
I live with spouse. Spouse just got a job - pretty hype to have double income now

>Do you have a day job?
Yes, it is not art related so it pays pretty well

>Commissions?
Just a hobby, I'd feel like a whore if I charged people to do what I like. Also I'm not very good...

>How do you make ends meet while spending the majority of your time drawing?
what this anon said >>2118001

[Anonymous No.2118085]

[Anonymous No.2118101]

>>2118085

hah

[Anonymous No.2118102]

>>2117994
I'm curious what other anons say. I have a day job. I put is practice everyday, but its rare that I get more than an hour in unless it's the weekend.

[Anonymous No.2118106]

It doesn't change magically from the last thread.

[Anonymous No.2118116]

Work in a servo for $20 an hour, intend to suppliment my wage with erotic novels on amazon for kindles.
Great art will pull a much larger audience.

[Anonymous No.2118177]

>>2117994
>majority of my time
Considering I'm a neuroscience major, I don't think so. But I do spend a good deal of my free time studying.

>bills
Scholarship gives me living cost dosh monthly. Haven't bothered working part-time yet but I guess I should this summer.

[Anonymous No.2118205]

>>2117994
>Do you live with mom?
I live with my mother's ex-husband after both her and my natural father kicked me out. finding a job at my age and with my curriculum is basically impossible, so if I don't manage somehow to start making money with drawing I'll remain here forever, or I'll go back sleeping on train wagons

[Anonymous No.2118208]

>>2118205
Do you suck his cock or why the fuck would he take you in?

[Anonymous No.2118212]

>>2117994
Mommy and daddy
They may die any moment though

[Anonymous No.2118217]

>>2118208
Guilt i guess, since i became a unachieving junkie in the first place when I ran away from his house back when I was 17 and ended up living with my disabled grandparents in what was a shack without a working shower.
what's surprising is that despite his autism, he's still ten times more coherent than my natural parents, both apparently genetically tarnished
too bad I discovered it too late

[Anonymous No.2118222]

I live with my parents, work in a small retail store and try and feel it like Vilppu when there's no customers around.

I'm a 28 year old pathetic loser; I just decided I wanted to draw and animate for sure a couple years ago and I still suck dick at both.

[Anonymous No.2118231]

>>2118222
>I'm a 28 year old pathetic loser
It could be worse, you could be a 32 year old pathetic loser without a job like me.

[Anonymous No.2118238]

I'm a 20 year old NEET loser who lives with his divorced mother. Every time she goes to work with a smile she rips my heart apart. Currently I go twice a week to an art school which is not that bad but there are mostly middle aged to old people. Outside of that I work part time.

I learned programming for 5 years and now I want to get into art to become a self-dependent modern creator. I had some work experience and my life and I just can't get used to shitty work so I decided I will do what I love. It's funny because I always thought it doesn't matter what you do for work, just for earn money and live. How naive I was.

[Anonymous No.2118245]

>>2118238
>so I decided I will do what I love
in the long run this is always the decision that pays off, even if you don't reach your goal

[Anonymous No.2118248]

>>2118231
My uncle is 40 and jobless and a little bit fucked in the head from drug abuse. It's kinda sad because he had really good looks and you can see he would still look really handsome if he would get in shape.

[Anonymous No.2118258]

>>2118222
>>2118231
30 years old and going crazy to find a way to make money. I'm a shit artist. I'm practicing every day, but who knows when I'll be something?

[Anonymous No.2118266]

>>2118245
Yeah, I have some friends that went to college just to go the linear way to success. 5 years to get an office job they won't enjoy. My sister works retail in cosmetics, she learned the trade because it was convenient at the time. She has been complaining for almost 10 years about her work. Now she is getting her first child but all she does is still complaining about how she is getting fucked over at work, especially how she is getting treated as a pregnant woman. My father is a 52 year old jobless loser that still tries to sell me the few stories where he was decent at life, decent to me. He also doesn't know a word of the language of the country he lives 20 years in. He doesn't even fucking try. I also rip him a new one every time we play chess because he doesn't practice, fucking lazy cunt.

[Anonymous No.2118712]

>>2118085
>sensible_chuckle.jpg2000

[Anonymous No.2118728]

32, married, three kids, in the military.

I draw for enjoyment of it. If I get good enough I'll discharge tomorrow!

[Anonymous No.2118733]

I work part time at an art supply store.

I add about 50% to that income with artistic pursuits.

I spend about 3-4 hours per day average either practicing or working on commissioned art. I wish I could do more, but I'm so easily distracted.

I live with parents, but can easily move out once I find a roommate.

[Anonymous No.2118736]

>>2118085
Took me a while to get it. Had a good kek.

[Anonymous No.2118737]

>>2118205
>>2118217
Find a part-time retail job.

[Anonymous No.2118738]

>>2117999
midcity up in dis bitch

[Anonymous No.2118743]

40 hours of work, trade sleep for more drawing/vidya time. Bills aint gonna pay itself!

[Anonymous No.2118757]

>>2118058
>Just a hobby, I'd feel like a whore if I charged people to do what I like.

You lose.

[Anonymous No.2118764]

Did various freelance for a while. Just signed a contract today for a steady freelance gig that should be enough to cover all my bills on it alone, never mind other jobs I can get.

[Anonymous No.2118770]

>>2118764
What field do you work in?

[Anonymous No.2118791]

>>2118058
I draw caricatures in a mall. Used to work in a theme park doing the same thing but I left because I needed a full time job. Now I make enough to finally move out of my parent's house.
I also do commissions here and there but I'm not good with networking so it's been pretty slow.

[Anonymous No.2118792]

>>2118058
>>2118791
Didn't mean to quote you! Sorry.

[Anonymous No.2118830]

>>2118770
Illustration for various things--rpgs, card games, mobile games etc

[Anonymous No.2118842]

>have lifeguard job
>7.50 an hour
>have second lifeguard job
>8.50 an hour, worked there for 5 years
>mom and dad complain that i'm wasting my time guarding
>agree
>put together a resume and do something like retail until I can earn a skill like typing over 50 words a minute.
>gonna save up 8k or 10k and move out to appartment with a roomie
>will have time to git gud instead of being yelled at

The dream lives on

[Anonymous No.2118885]

>>2118842
You can't type over 50 words per minute?? Nigga how you usin the internet?
Good plan though.
Actually don't get a typing job you retard you'll completely fuck up your carpals for drawing.

[Anonymous No.2118909]

>>2118885
I want like an office job.
Typing fast and knowing excel is good

[Anonymous No.2118934]

>>2118737
Part time isnt enough to move out in retail

[Anonymous No.2118938]

>>2118934
Neither is full time. I'm the 28 year old sperg that posted earlier. I make $12.44 an hour and frankly if I bought a house or lived in an apartment I'd slowly go broke. I mean, if I had a girlfriend it'd probably be just fine but I'm impotent so that isn't happening lol.

[Anonymous No.2118950]

>>2118934
Okay, but you said 'finding a job is impossible'. Might as well save some money and work on your art skills at the same time.

>>2118938
12.44 an hour full time is totally doable. Do you live in New York or Norway or something!? You don't need a girlfriend to have a roommate: do you have *any* friends?

[Anonymous No.2118967]

>>2118950
>do you have *any* friends?

I have a lot of friends, but I don't want to live with a single one of them, no offense to any of them but it'd be the same as living with my parents if not worse in myriad ways. Why would I want to live with my friends and possibly lose our friendship over some stupid bullshit anyway? I've seen it happen way too many times to risk it.

>doable

I don't know, man. Monthly expenses

Rent/Mortgage: $700 min.
cellphone: $60~
internet: $50~
climate control (heating/AC): $100~
gas: $70~
water: $30 or some shit I don't know lol
food: $300~
car insurance: $65
electricity: shit I don't know like $50(?)
mandatory private health insurance (thanks, Obama): $200

plus miscellaneous shit like:

vehicle tabs
toilet paper, paper towels, soap, vehicle and home/apartment repairs, going out and doing literally anything other than sitting around with my thumb in my butthole etc.

I can't hack it bruh. I'm pretty close but it's just not gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.2119000]

I just spent 30 minutes typing a reply that was pretty negative and realized that it was just bull shit.

I have a job and i have a car and i travel. I do live with my mom but will buy a house soon. I get in about three hours a day drawing.

I hear a lot of people saying that pursuing art has made them poor or put them in a tough situation.

For me it has been the complete opposite pursuing art seriously has pushed me from being a no life who ocassionaly sketched to a dedicated goal pursuing machine.

I only see things as getting better from here. If you are in a shitty situation just remember that no one is going to come save you. You have the ability to do anything you want.

Sure you can stay home and "neet" your life away drawing 10 hours a day with little improvement, no friends, no life outside etc..

or you can find yourself a job and do what you have to. pay for workshops, travel, get out there and meet passionate people like yourself who are going to push you forward to the next level.

[Anonymous No.2119018]

>>2117994
im a camwhore and I only work 2 hours every other day. my expenses are super low and I take public/transit and cycle everywhere so I have more time than I can handle.


also I draw on the bus constantly.

[Anonymous No.2119019]

>>2119000
You're never going to make it.

If you don't have the drive to sit there and do the work for 10 hours, but wanna call someone who does put in the time a "neet" Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.2119021]

>>2119018
I thought about that before. A bus ticket is like $2.00 where I live and I think the same bus just sort of goes around in a big circle over a hour period or so. I could totally see myself using those as cheap life drawing sessions, you've inspired me to actually try it. Also as an added bonus I might get to see black people fight with each other for no reason in particular so that might be fun.

[Anonymous No.2119027]

>>2119018
...a-are u a grill?

[Anonymous No.2119028]

>>2118842

chat with multiple people on fb, messager, or play an online game and participate in chat a lot. Guarantee you will hit 60+ wpm easily.

[Anonymous No.2119035]

>>2119027
ye

>>2119021
Yeah I mean, we spend so much idle time around potential models, only to get home and look up pictures of them..

[Anonymous No.2119051]

>>2119035
I wish I was a girl to be a the biggest whore in chatturbate. Get pay for masturbate? easy cake brotha'

[Anonymous No.2119063]

>you will never cross paths with a 6.2+/10 camwhore on the bus while life-drawing an endless stream of weathered lower-middle-class negroes in their late-40s/early-50s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_F-7x3UbEM

[Anonymous No.2119070]

>>2119051
Take female hormones~

[Anonymous No.2119089]

21 year old, lives at home with parents, only has one bill at the moment, (phone bill) I make okay money off commissions. (9k profit last year, this year is going better) I am sidetracked by my emotions. I am depressed, at times, suicidal. If I could stop being dumb and set my head straight, I could hustle and male better money and a better life.

[Anonymous No.2119100]

>>2119089
Are you me? Thats exactly my situation, except for the part of the commissions im still pretty novice to start making 'em... Wish you luck.

[Anonymous No.2119103]

>>2119100
Pretty sure half the board fits that description. It's darn close to me that's for sure. Except I pay rent to live with family.

[Anonymous No.2119237]

>>2119070
>>2119051
>>2119035
>>2119028
>>2119027
>>2119018
get back to fucking facebook human shitstains

[Anonymous No.2119243]

>>2119089
I've found the easiest way to tackle depression is not staying up late, life gets a lot better when you aren't having a anxiety attack at 3am regularly.

[Anonymous No.2119388]

>>2118938
Save up 10k, find a gig that keeps you afloat and cruise.

>>2118950
I want to save money and grind, but my parents are against me and really about to kick me out for drawing anatomy and not doing abstract 'nawlins shit

[Anonymous No.2119392]

>>2119000
>only see things as getting better from here. If you are in a shitty situation just remember that no one is going to come save you. You have the ability to do anything you want.

Fuck.
Thats some powerful words