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[Anonymous No.2115463]

Previous thread >>2110415

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.2115476]

Did a photo study

[Anonymous No.2115538]

Lightning practice

[Anonymous No.2115541]

>>2115463
What painting is that?

[Anonymous No.2115639]

[Anonymous No.2115641]

>>2115538
ayy

[Anonymous No.2115669]

>>2115538

try to work cleaner anon.

[Anonymous No.2115674]

>>2115538
I'd recommended you check out some like painting with confidence by Anthony Jones.

[Anonymous No.2115746]

>>2115669
>>2115674
Thanks, will do

[Anonymous No.2115747]

okay guys I really need critics on this before painting, I really need perspective pills

[Anonymous No.2115768]

>>2115541
It's a Schmid.

[Anonymous No.2115852]

Advice? Tips?

[Anonymous No.2115855]

>>2115852
muddy as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk

[Anonymous No.2115856]

>>2115747
why did you waste all that time with that scribbly-looking 'crosshatching' shit when youre just going to paint over it

its not even wrapping around the form :|

[Anonymous No.2115863]

>>2115855
iunno what people mean by this

[Anonymous No.2115867]

>>2115747
the sword looks very heavy, why is he holding it like that? the bottom of the legs are also slightly out of perspective; the leg closest to the viewer seems short

[Anonymous No.2115882]

>>2115863
it pretty much means "STOP USING SOFT BRUSHES YA FUCKEN KNOBHED" or something like that

[Anonymous No.2115884]

>>2115882
you dont have to be autistic about it

[Anonymous No.2115885]

>>2115863
when your colors give a muddy effect it means there are too many colors mixed in and its effected only by one type of light source

[Anonymous No.2115888]

>>2115884
bruh

[Anonymous No.2115889]

>>2115885
when i shade i throw in a grayed down complimentary color ontop, this is probably why it looks muddy. i was taught to do this and thought i made it look less flat so i didn't realize.

[Anonymous No.2115891]

>>2115889
yah the grey is what causes most of the muddiness if you shade with it. grey has too much color so it would give that effect

[Anonymous No.2115892]

>>2115852
>>2115863
Basically you are shading with black and going too dark in shadows. The lighting isn't realistic in terms of values, and the black deadens hte colour. Your soft brush use also makes it a bit mushy looking.

[Anonymous No.2115900]

>>2115747
Fix that thumb closest to us, so inconsistent with the level of all the other drawing. Looks bretty gud

[Anonymous No.2115903]

>>2115747
i feel like the faceplate thingy is out of perspective, could just be me though

[Anonymous No.2115906]

>>2115867
that's right, will take care of those

maybe I make it a dual blade rather than a sword lolz

>>2115856
it's that way cuz it does not take too much time and adds quick info with lines
>mostly cuz I saw howsomo animators use color to delimit shadow zones to make frames

will use liquify tool (filter on ph) to fix things, learning it is fucking awsome to pop up the forms

[Anonymous No.2115908]

>>2115852
Same thing I told you last time.
Unsharp mask.

[Anonymous No.2115918]

>>2115892
hey thanks for the help, and time. definietly going to take this advice into consideration.

[Anonymous No.2116033]

heres this. im halfway through it yay

[Anonymous No.2116096]

todays study 1

[Anonymous No.2116108]

>>2115747
tried to improve it but I'm so sleepy to think what I'm doing

did I make any improvement? tomorrow I'll try again :L

[Anonymous No.2116117]

>>2116108
There's a lot I like about his design, but all the critiques from the original still stand. Get a good night's sleep and come back to it, I want to see this one finished.

[Anonymous No.2116125]

[Anonymous No.2116139]

>>2116108
did anything change? just looks like hecarim.

[Anonymous No.2116141]

>>2115747
All of the perspective is fucked. Your symmetrical elements all go in different directions. I drew some perspective lines for one side so you can see where things are lopsided.

[Anonymous No.2116164]

>>2116141
will try, i see problems now but I still have a stupid issue, how did you draw those leaks that point out of the paper?

[Anonymous No.2116168]

>>2115906
it takes a shit ton of time to draw all those messy scribbles and it looks like ass js

[Anonymous No.2116174]

Was going to just do a mosh mosh doodle but really liked this pattern and went with it for the whole thing I'm quite pleased

[Anonymous No.2116182]

>>2116164
Use a guide to make the horizon line (pull the line from the ruler that's outside of the canvas). Zoom out and take the pen tool, make a path with two points, and use the Direct Selection Tool (looks like a white arrow) to put one of the points on the horizon line (make sure snap to guides is turned on). Move the other end of the path where you want the line. Then use the Line Tool to draw the line. Move the point again to make another line.

[Anonymous No.2116293]

[Anonymous No.2116304]

>>2116174
uh

This artist is in museums

Are you fucking retarded

http://judithannbraun.com/462885/fingerings-galleries/

[Anonymous No.2116305]

This one is stressing me out. I looked up some sargent painting to help me. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.2116386]

I need to get this done by tomorrow, any major mistakes that i'm missing ?

[Anonymous No.2116389]

>>2116305
The feet are too big in relation to the rest of the body

[Anonymous No.2116395]

>>2116386
hand sizes on the girl

[Anonymous No.2116398]

>>2116395
Are both hands too small?

[Anonymous No.2116405]

>>2116398
i think her left hand is too small.

[Anonymous No.2116429]

>>2115852
If it wasn't that soft it would be great

[Anonymous No.2116453]

>>2116405
>>2116386
Is it better ?

[Anonymous No.2116579]

[Anonymous No.2116582]

[Anonymous No.2116589]

What does /ic/ think?

[Anonymous No.2116592]

>>2116589
not deftly made enough to be fine arts, completely lacking in narrative or writing skills to be an illustration.

you'll fit right in here.

[Anonymous No.2116600]

>>2116589
Thumbnail looks great.

[Anonymous No.2116601]

>>2116453
It's a lot better. If you still have time: you can define the peas on the spoon more. The blue and green colors are very similar.

[Anonymous No.2116607]

>>2116592

>writing skills

wut.

[Anonymous No.2116622]

>>2116589

Thumbnail looks great but zoomed in its just a mess. I can't read whats going on in the foreground well. I'm assuming that's meant to be a bridge?

[Anonymous No.2116634]

super edgy commission. Be nice

[Anonymous No.2116635]

>>2116607
how do you come up with your ideas? your just sitting on the toilet and it comes to you as in a dream?

[Anonymous No.2116637]

>>2116634
Nothing edgy about it. Looks kinda cool.

[Anonymous No.2116639]

>>2116637
Thanks, I say edgy cause the client is one of those "ALIMINOOTI IS REAL!" conspiracy guys.

[Anonymous No.2116641]

>>2116634
That's some clean fucking linework

[Anonymous No.2116644]

>>2116641
Thank you, I almost don't want to color it.

[Anonymous No.2116672]

>>2116644
You could try scanning it, setting it to darken in PS, and doing it digitally with a layer under

[Anonymous No.2116675]

I need some advice on this one,

[Anonymous No.2116678]

>>2116675
Her pose makes zero sense and her anatomy is wonky (for example look at how the raised shoulder attaches to the torso).

[Anonymous No.2116683]

>>2116678
Oh well, guess this might be a lost one. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2116687]

>>2116672
Yeah Id like to but unfortunately my wacom got run over by a truck while I was moving a few months ago, haven't been fucked to get a new one yet. Pic is one I got stuck in the middle of. But yeah I work all traditional media lately.

Speaking of it's kind of a shame that the Prismacolor pens work so poorly with the Prismacolor pencils, I sometimes end up lining the entire drawing twice basically because the pigment in the pencils go right over the lines, they become dull and faded. I've also had trouble with the ink lifting off with the eraser, only one that seems to work well is a kneaded eraser.

[Anonymous No.2116691]

>>2116675
The whole thing with depicting characters with genu valgum (knock knees) and pigeon toe is like the illustrator's red nose syndrome; it looks ridiculous.

You get the impression that the character is feeble, sick, and weak. If you're trying to capture Samus Aran, I'd go with a more dynamic and action-oriented pose. If you're just doing a blonde in a bodysuit I'd still go with another pose, try looking at classic pin-ups.

[Anonymous No.2116694]

Apple?

please help me

[Anonymous No.2116700]

>>2116687
>Heinz Beans
I'm fucking laughing and I don't know why

[Anonymous No.2116703]

>>2116691
Yeah, i see it was a very bad choice. Thanks for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.2116722]

>>2115476
Face all fucked up man

[Anonymous No.2116725]

>>2116305
feet are 1/4th size of her body

[conmana No.2116733]

Final mech pilot not sure if I'm going to spend the time rendering them.does the suit seem too over designed ?
No idea what I'm going to put outside its window screen thing

>>2116589
Uhh I see some promising color not much though you're mashing together hues of different temperatures making it muddy that and using blacks river into the moon is a bit boring Imo my advice would be to Wai for a full moon and look around at the colorsit would be even better to paint it take my advice loosely I know very little about color

[conmana No.2116734]

Paint 2 got a face right for once with heavy ref woot normal comp is bigger but I liked the square crop makes it a bit more personal going to change the dragon thing so it moves inbetween her pointer and thumb I am aware she has Spiderman hands lol how is the color doing trying to make everything similar in value

[Anonymous No.2116735]

where you been?
her right arm is totally fucked

[conmana No.2116737]

And lineart for a painting I want to redo make her stupid small I comparison to the environment found out less you draw on the face the better it looks cool

[conmana No.2116738]

>>2116735
well that goes for both painting hahahaha

I've been without internet I'm on open wifi in some dudes lawn LoL

[Anonymous No.2116741]

Abstract

[Anonymous No.2116839]

first, I hate this thread image, can't find this thread holy shit

updating my attempts to fix my problems >feels

[Anonymous No.2116868]

Took a look at some pics of arm anatomy and broke down the basic shapes, then drew from imagination. Idk if this is a good way to learn anatomy, but its prob bad for proportion. Do the arms look okay?

[Anonymous No.2116882]

Study

[Anonymous No.2116899]

>>2116868

[Anonymous No.2116917]

>>2116839
gonna try this process >>2116547

[Anonymous No.2116945]

>>2116917
One problem I see is the design of the legs. Both seem to bend in the same direction, which is strange. Also, the forelegs bending like that really goes against the balance of the creature, so the gesture doesn't work. Also, this way the armor presents huge openings to very vulnerable spots directly to the opponent.

tl;dr: I think going for a more centaur-type body would do wonders for this.

[Anonymous No.2116948]

Acrylics, 4hrs in. Haven't painted in over a year, so inspiring to use at least some colors. Spent 18 years with that cat.

[Anonymous No.2116958]

>>2116945
thx, will try something :'(

i excused the legs to my self as weak point kek, need side shield rounding them like medieval armors did on these openings

it's inspired on rhinos, body is like pitbulls,small hips, strong torso, as it's not based on human neither horses, won't change pose that much, this time I'll carry constructive mistakes to the end :'3

[Anonymous No.2116963]

>>2115463
Hey guys, can you tell me which one is most appealing?
I'm trying to figure out my style and if I should incorporate any traditional inking or painting with my digital work. I would really like to (because it more enjoyable and i like the nuances) but I'm afraid digital is just superior
Sorry for the messy example, it only took like 20 minutes to put this together, I might come back with better examples if I can.

[Anonymous No.2116966]

>>2116741
Keep at it bro
>>2116734
Its looking really nice as long as you plan to add darks and high lights. Mind posting the ref?
>>2116733
>>2116917
Dayumn you guys are gittin gud with this concept shit

[Anonymous No.2116967]

>>2116958
Neither rhinos nor dogs have joints like that.
It's your choice, obviously, I just think the legs make it look kinda uncanny, which might be why you're having trouble figuring it out.

[Anonymous No.2116969]

>>2116963
the one in black and white.

[Anonymous No.2116970]

>>2116174
>http://judithannbraun.com/462885/fingerings-galleries/
>>2116174
Why, anon? Did you really make this or did you crop it from one of those paintings to try and troll us?
Personally I love this chick's paintings. Too bad she was on that retarded "America's Next Best Artist" show or whatever

[Anonymous No.2117123]

>>2116967

just checked and you're right, I STUDIED a fucking rhino, damn it, maybe his pose was weir cuz I really was convinced they worked like that weird lol, w/e now, next time will take care of these problems since begining, I gotta end this shit fast for a final grade project :l

[Anonymous No.2117127]

What am I doing

[Anonymous No.2117132]

>>2116453
I feel this pain T-T

[Anonymous No.2117133]

>>2117127
KIM JUNG GI! BITCH! I liked it, now turn it 3/4! :D

[Anonymous No.2117134]

Captcha is thell when you're drunked

[Anonymous No.2117135]

>>2117134
cuz you're not smoking pot, dude. WTF AM I DOING HERE?

[Anonymous No.2117158]

>>2117123
its got kangaroo legs. it would hop like a kangaroo if it was real.

[Anonymous No.2117220]

>>2115476

learn to render the face better, then the body, you can fuck about with the body but not the face man. Also spend some time learning edge control and how edges work it'll make your work seem less rigid on the edges.

Experiment.

[Anonymous No.2117228]

>>2116635

It was a 30 minute sketch I did to unwind after i came home from work. I was curious what everyone had to say. I realized the resolution is too high but that the working resolution.

Meh i was just curious what you guys had to say I lurk a lot but rarely post any of my own work.

>>2116622

Yea

[Anonymous No.2117244]

Done, so much to learn. At least I got some details in it, more related to the personality of that cat. Also tried to keep the focus on head, left legs with less details.

[Anonymous No.2117252]

finished this. pretty big painting i feel like i filled it sufficiently. got some good ideas out of it too.

[Anonymous No.2117254]

>>2115463

I can't add shadows and values worth a damn.

I made this on reference from a photo and everything just loses detail / is not sharp, clean enough.

I never understood how values exactly work, even if I get the original structure okay, I almost never complete anything, it stays on this sketch level

[Anonymous No.2117268]

ok ok ok ok here's the finished one. so what do you think?

[Anonymous No.2117311]

>>2117268

nice, spend more time on it, dont try to get it finished enjoy learning all i can say, desregard this comment if you already do it.

[Anonymous No.2117339]

>>2117311
nah man i hate learning. gonna suck when i run out of ideas and gotta hit the library for tolstoy novels and world history books so i can do harder jokes.

[Anonymous No.2117349]

>>2117244
Whoa. I just see a forest, but you see a cat, man. That's pretty neat

[Anonymous No.2117441]

dunno how to color it, this happend while testing kek, it's so artistic naw

[Anonymous No.2117448]

>>2117441
Leave it and paint the armor in the style of yakuza tattoos.

[Anonymous No.2117451]

>>2117448
i just droped few strokes of different hues, put that mode and that fish popped out, made my day, might do that suggestion kek

[Anonymous No.2117458]

[Anonymous No.2117478]

Thumbnail study for a future oil painting, aprox. 15cm

[Anonymous No.2117481]

Thumbnail study for a future oil painting, aprox. 15cm

[Anonymous No.2117494]

[Anonymous No.2117541]

I think I should leave it or it will probably get worse

[Anonymous No.2117552]

>>2117541
looks pretty good but maybe add darker values on those shadows?

[Anonymous No.2117570]

>>2116579
>you don't understand
>my potions...

[Anonymous No.2117573]

>>2117552
my laptop is going fucking slow with that file at 7k and all that layers kek, tomorrow I might try to improve it, add more hue, speculars, reflections and texture if I feel like working on it again :'(

also, when I'm on RGB, strokes are delay compared with grayscale mode, y is this happening? how fix Ph?

[Anonymous No.2117605]

This is my first time using color ever and also doing graphic art, I'd appreciate your critique and advice. I want to learn and get better, feel free to be brutal. :)

[Anonymous No.2117619]

>>2117605
I like the devil, the dude is horrible and in dire need of anatomy and values. Unless he is supposed to be melting from the fire.

Also, organize your light sources, remember objects drop shadows, and make a choice on a consistent style for the whole image, it kinda looks like you put two different images together.

[Anonymous No.2117624]

>>2117605
I guess you didnt use any references, if you did then there are little excuses
>le van gogh floor
>pure blacks
>few pure whites
>glowing crystal that only affect rocks
> flat and saturated demon
>perspective need obvious leaks to be readable
>dat pose where arms and legs going 90ª, rigid as fuck
try things you can acomplish

If you can't tell what's wrong you have a longer road to go, conscious incompetence is the first step to get better

keep the ambition anyways, you should check /ic/ sticky thread, there you'll find good material to learn how to develop fundamentals

[Anonymous No.2117632]

>>2117619
Glad you like the devil at least, thanks for that! Sadly no, the poor guy is not meant to be melting. I will take your advice to heart, appreciate you taking the time.

[Anonymous No.2117634]

>>2117624
Thanks for the critique! There were references but nothing in those poses, basically just pictures of those characters and a top down view of a dungeon map for the background.

Obviously I do see a lot wrong myself, but it is nice to have someone who knows more point out flaws themselves like you have. I don't necessarily understand what exactly is wrong, whereas you see it and make a list. :)
I admit I definitely dove right in and bit off more than I could chew, but it was fun at least. I am in the process of looking through the /ic/ sticky thread right now!

[Anonymous No.2117635]

>>2117573
To fix stroke-delay, get better pc or work on smaller document.
Also are you sure you need all that canvas? I do fine with 3k as maximum dimension.
If you really need more detail somewhere and can't do it with zoom then extract and enlarge the part, detail the fuck out of it, resize it back to original.

Also what do you need all the layers for? :o

[Anonymous No.2117656]

What's the point of the beginner thread if beginners are just going to post here? There's rarely any real critique over there.

[Anonymous No.2117665]

>>2117634
Don't be afraid to work on original pieces without reference alongside your studies, even if you know you won't quite pull it off.
It's fun, it will keep your will to draw alive, and it will make it clear to you in which areas you're struggling.

It's a loooong road ahead, don't worry about everything being perfect

>>2117573
PS is unusable for me, the bitch uses up 1gb on my hdd for a sketch on a single layer, and is slow as fuck. Give clip studio paint a try, I'm working on 10k x 10k with no issue. The only thing I'm missing is the color layer mode, though I never bothered with filters, so your mileage may vary.

>>2117656
Beginner thread is for exercises and people who can't hold a pencil now, get with the program

[Anonymous No.2117680]

>>2117665
>
Thanks, that is my plan! I'm ready for the long haul, art will always be fun for me. You have a good day. :)

[Anonymous No.2117702]

Pear

Please Help me

[Anonymous No.2117713]

>>2117702
Hi, I think you might benefit from using a very soft brush that's pretty big to smoothen out some of the transitions. Also, cleaning up the edges does wonders for making it look more finished

[Anonymous No.2117722]

>>2117713
thanks

[Anonymous No.2117744]

how does this look so far? Needs loomis?

[Anonymous No.2117747]

>>2117702
less painting more looking

[Anonymous No.2117761]

>>2115463
Android thing, will finish tomorrow. Anything look too fucky (besides the arm)?

[Anonymous No.2117800]

prototype for my engineering final: The Rocket Propelled Hot Air Balloon

[Anonymous No.2117809]

Starfruit

took the larger brush spread into account, tired to clean up edges
please helb

[Anonymous No.2117817]

Hello. Please tell me what is wrong with this ANATOMICALLY. I know the lines are shakey and a bit uneven( It's a sketch and I'm using a touchpad.Not a tablet or a mouse.Kill me.)

Please ignore the right hand. I am not finished with it and I am going to start making a reference tomorrow for it.

Any other critique is welcome, but be aware that I know of the shaky lines and the thinness of the lines ( add lineweight!) I am only going to add lineweight when the drawing is anatomically correct.

[Anonymous No.2117829]

I need help /ic/
This is the furthest to a complete drawing I've ever done, I have studied anatomy and gesture for over a year and I want to move on to complete drawings, the problem is I don't know how.

I'm still refining the drawing but where do I go after this? How do I add colors?

[Anonymous No.2117831]

>>2117809
You might benifit with his advice >>2117713
>>2117744
Yes it does, everything is out of proportion, try to align the ears with the tip of the brow and the bottom of the nose
>>2117817
It's too simple for me to judge it's anatomy, your proportions are there but the hands do need to be worked on (I know you mentioned about the hands, but still)

[Anonymous No.2117840]

>>2117831
?

[Anonymous No.2117848]

>>2117840
It's much better. Keep going, personally i think it would be cool if you did a bunch of different fruits like 20 all on one canvas and explored the different textures.
Did you also do this apple? >>2116694
I think the colors are great and it has this weight to it. Also the thumbnail looks the best.
I think you are definitely getting better with each one.

[Anonymous No.2117852]

>>2117848
thanks! Strange enough I like the apple the most. I feel like its got the best color choice and brush economy. This whole experiment was a practice in color, as I did my best to make something believable and interesting without sampling

That being said, once I finish up The one I'm on I'll defiantly think of doing a bundle of a ton of fruits, but tighter with less detail and even more focused on color. Since as it is, these are taking 20-30 minutes on their own

[Anonymous No.2117860]

>>2117831
Thank you very much for your reply about the Yuno drawing. Regarding the hands, do you think the right one is the only one who looks off( the right looks like a blob) or do you think the left one (at the face) also needs to be fixed? I am honestly not sure about whether or not the elbows/arms are in the correct height and I've stared at the drawing for way to long to be sure..

[Anonymous No.2117869]

Just having some fun with lighting.

[Anonymous No.2117881]

>>2117840

Hi, me again, same avice I told you here >>2117713. Use a VERY soft brush with an appropriate sized brush that's not too small and smoothen out the transitions

I tried to illustrate and example here, it literally took me 1 or 2 strokes to do this

[Anonymous No.2117885]

done in pen

[Anonymous No.2117889]

>>2117885
boobs literally look like balls

[Anonymous No.2117902]

>>2117885

I know you think this is great, but illustration like that is better at putting me to sleep than cold medicine. Surely you're more exciting than that

[Anonymous No.2117906]

>>2117800
>>2117268
I cant fucking tell if youre trolling

[Anonymous No.2117908]

>>2117881
Thank you for the demonstration. The visual helped, I guess it turns out I'm kinda deathly afraid of blending things in too much. I think its because im afraid of owverdoing it, just like i thought
>>2117840
would have been overdoing it. I'll be more loose and unclentch my asshole when it comes to softbrush though, since I do see an improvement with your guys help

[Anonymous No.2117911]

>>2117908
I agree overblending is bad but still needs to be some

[Anonymous No.2117915]

>>2117908
don't know how I did it but I posted the wrong one. this one smooths out some areas
>>2117911
I feel that. the happy medium is what I need

[Anonymous No.2118026]

study
i should really give the eyes another look after a break but fuck it

[Anonymous No.2118048]

>>2118026
Banned tes

[Anonymous No.2118053]

Drew the one on the bottom, disliked the face (among other things), so did face studies

[Anonymous No.2118062]

>>2118053

tumblr?

[conmana No.2118082]

>>2116966
I pause movie screens to get the angle I want and then I used my face for the eyes so unless unless you wanna see my sexy face...jk

[Anonymous No.2118086]

>>2118082
>...jk

[Anonymous No.2118087]

>>2118048
wh-what?

[Anonymous No.2118094]

>>2118082
why are your values so good m8?

[Anonymous No.2118202]

Hey /ic/ I ned help. how do I draw large amounts of small things, garbage in oparticular, without drawing every single damn object?

[Anonymous No.2118303]

>>2114315
thanks bro

[Anonymous No.2118331]

[Anonymous No.2118334]

Tried to draw from imagination
What am I fucking up on?

[Anonymous No.2118340]

trying acrylics, how bad is it?

[Anonymous No.2118390]

>>2118340
Nigga thas tight

[Anonymous No.2118476]

something im working on

[Anonymous No.2118477]

potrait of freind, does it look human enough? flaws? thanks

[Anonymous No.2118482]

>>2118476
You need to learn forms. Go back to the sticky
>grej.jpg
för helvete

[Anonymous No.2118485]

>>2118482
vad ska man säga

[Anonymous No.2118489]

>>2118477

[Anonymous No.2118605]

Wasn't really taking this too seriously. It was an old drawing that was an absolute mess, so I just wanted to have some fun with it!

[Anonymous No.2118607]

>>2118605
onion bro

[Anonymous No.2118609]

>>2118605
Noice. draw me a Quelana like one of your french girls

[conmana No.2118613]

>>2115463
Fuck I knew this would be a huge pain the ass I can't figure out the form on the face or the hair

[Anonymous No.2118614]

>>2116305

head is too small

[Anonymous No.2118622]

>>2118613
with both pic 5 and 8 as ref for helpyou might solve that issue
gray hair should take some more color from that environment

[Anonymous No.2118639]

>>2118613
The edge of the sun thing is tangent with the edge of the wings. Pose is also kinda shitty/generic. I might do a vertical crop, like cut out the outer third of the image on either side so just the middle third or even a bit less remains. There's a lot of dead space on the edge of the image that really adds nothing to the story or impact of the painting.

[Anonymous No.2118688]

This was a difficult birth.
I'm going to make myself look like a clown if I show this, but the deadline is tomorrow and I'm spent.
its so shit even the camera resused to take a decent pic.
jeez...

[Anonymous No.2118690]

>>2117906
not trolling. im using canvases as note/sketchbooks for digital pieces that hopefully I can sell later.

here's something off of it I just made

[Anonymous No.2118693]

>>2118690
hopefully sell the canvases* the digital stuff i just do for practice in photoshop and for larger projects.

[Anonymous No.2118695]

>>2116096
I likes you. Post reference pls.

[Anonymous No.2118696]

>>2118688
Oh shit I forgot to redraw some shit
shit

[Anonymous No.2118779]

>>2116096
Where can I find your work?

[Anonymous No.2118799]

Proportions are off, but I guess I'm just working for color. Also, orienting the pupil or direction of someone's gaze is always a difficult challenge

[Anonymous No.2118800]

>>2118799

Also this is a WIP, forget to mention that.

[Anonymous No.2118816]

Why can't I fucking paint anything right?

No matter what colors I pick, it all just comes out looking like shit. Even picking these "artsy" colors makes it look like shit.

I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to rendering.

[Anonymous No.2118817]

>>2118816
And of course I forget the picture.

Just proves how much of a retard I am.

[Anonymous No.2118827]

>>2118817
you can't draw, what makes you think you can paint. go set up a still life and draw it ten times.

[Anonymous No.2118832]

>>2118827
Drawing is not a prerequisite for painting, m8, Nevertheless, I am working on it as well.

Still, I'd prefer some constructive criticism instead of "git gud".

[Anonymous No.2118888]

>>2118817
Tried another one.

I know my anatomy is shit. I know how to improve it, but when it comes to rendering I'm completely lost.

[Anonymous No.2118903]

>>2118888
>>2118817

If you're really struggling start simpler. Paint a still life. Grab some neat looking shit lying around, shine a light on them, and paint.

[Anonymous No.2118906]

>>2118903
>and draw
ftfy

[Anonymous No.2118908]

Messing around with adjustment layers is fun.

[Anonymous No.2118919]

>>2118888
>>2118817

Study how color works. Why are you using these colors specifically? Really think about this. Why the blue shadows? In what context would blue shadows occur? The kind of colors you picked wouldn't happen in real life. Think about what kind of light setting would create different colors on your subject. Don't just pick randomly. Think technically. Think about reflectivity, the nature of the shadow being related to that of the light source, different types of light and different types of shadows that go with them, chroma and value relationship, light interactions, etc. All of this applies even when you try to go for more "artsy" colors. A lot of photography deals with colors you don't necessarily see in everyday life. Try to think about the way the photographer manipulates the light in order to achieve them nonetheless. Photostudies are useful if you don't just copy the picture but give it thought too. Regardless of whether the colors you chose are "realistic" or not, if they don't make sense from a technical "light and color" point of view, it won't look good. Making a gamut mask really helps coming up with a harmonious color scheme. Read up on this too. On a vaguely related note that orange hair looks really bad, sorry to say

And I know you acknowledge your bad take on anatomy, but, really, learn how to draw and render sketches in grayscale before you get to painting. I know painting is fun, but you gotta go through the hard process of learning how to draw before you paint. Trust me, it'll save you a lot of time along the line and you'll be thankful for it.

Pic sort of related to the whole color talk

[Anonymous No.2118920]

>>2118817
>>2118888

Oh and don't put yourself down, "I'm shit, I can't paint", wtf, just continue learning, it's exciting and there will be no way you won't get good along the line if you do it right

[Anonymous No.2118923]

>>2118832
> Drawing is not a prerequisite for painting

[Anonymous No.2118928]

>>2118923

it isn't, you fucking faggot.

you could easily do a decent landscape with big strokes and basic forms, and as long as you've picked the colors right it'll look good.

[Anonymous No.2118947]

>>2118928
for your own sake stop believing that. before you go out and buy the most expensive oil paint and biggest canvas you can find thinking you'll just figure out how to make a masterpiece spontaneously one day.

you know that every great painting you've ever seen in a museum had multiple drawings and sketches done in order to pull it off, you crazy, crazy ass hole.

[Anonymous No.2118948]

>>2118928
you're beyond retarded

[Anonymous No.2118955]

>>2118928

Every good painting starts with a good drawing or at least some form of construction.

[Anonymous No.2118957]

>>2118947

i'm not talking about painting the Sistine Chapel here.

Sure, pulling off a complex composition requires knowledge of color, drawing as well as perspective, but that's not what I'm talking about.

if you want to paint a simple landscape, you can easily do it if you understand how color and light works. You don't need to know complex anatomy to paint a fucking barn and a mountain.

[Anonymous No.2118959]

>>2115463
here's a drawing i did hanging out with my buddies at a swimmin' hole

[Anonymous No.2118965]

>>2118957
/thread. he's right guys, pack it up. time to go home.

[Anonymous No.2118968]

we can post furry art here right?

[Anonymous No.2118982]

>>2118957
yeah but are you are trying to paint figures not barns so learn to draw

[Anonymous No.2119004]

>>2118959
I like this anon, you did good

[Anonymous No.2119005]

>>2118959
i really love your linework and style.

[Anonymous No.2119006]

>>2118906
>ftfy

A Redditor. Got it.

>>2118919
Thanks man.

Honestly though, I can render basic shapes rather well in grayscale, but the problem arises when I try and add color.

I've been trying to read up on the physical properties of color and light and how they interact under different conditions. I'm currently going through Gurney's book, but so far it hasn't helped me in any noticeable way.
Is there any literature on the topic you would personally recommend?

Also, here's another one I did. I feel like this one is somewhat better than the previous ones, but perhaps the mistakes aren't as noticeable with blue-colored skin.

[Anonymous No.2119013]

this is looking good it's been a while since i have been on ic and good to see your progress padwan

[Anonymous No.2119015]

>>2119013
thanks. glad you like it

[Anonymous No.2119016]

>>2117869

cool beans

[Anonymous No.2119026]

I should focus more on lines than painting. Drawing anthromorphic characters is hard.

[Anonymous No.2119030]

[Anonymous No.2119045]

>>2116963
stop all of that

[Anonymous No.2119119]

I don't know how to get to a final, polished product from where I am now. plz help

[Anonymous No.2119128]

from imagination
>>2118695
i lost the reference, but let me see if i can find it again
>>2118779
its not much
http://aychteal.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2119129]

>>2118695
here its is.
now you'll know how off i am

[Anonymous No.2119145]

Study
source: http://imgur.com/FVbBX6D

[Anonymous No.2119164]

>>2119006
Just rendered another sketch.

Am I at all improving, even if ever so slightly?

[Anonymous No.2119212]

>>2119145
i hate this thing i painted

[Anonymous No.2119230]

Still trying to find a workflow/painting method that suits me.

This one is actually pretty fun so far.

[Anonymous No.2119238]

best reference for legs

[Anonymous No.2119241]

>>2119238
wut da ef is happenin there man...

[Anonymous No.2119242]

>>2118476
Finished it, 1 hour total spent on this.
Do you guys have some tips on how to get used to working on something for longer periods of time?
The longest time i can spend on a piece is 2-3 hours and i cant seem to work for much longer and i find it really frusterating.

[Anonymous No.2119247]

>>2119242


Simply put, the answer is to draw more.

Your drawings will look better. Thatll give you confidence and you draw more as a result. The more often you draw, the more of a tolerance you will have to long sessions.

6 months ago, spending more than a couple of hours was really hard.
I've been doing tons and tons of drawing every single day, and a week or two ago, I spent 10 hours straight taking drawing requests.

Definitely not good for my health. I learned my lesson, and I paid for it. Point is, I;ve never been able to do that much.

[Anonymous No.2119253]

>>2119241
Sorry about quality, on phone.

[Anonymous No.2119256]

I need critique on this, is there any major issue I don't see? How do I make the tower appear more distant?
Hälp

[Anonymous No.2119260]

>>2119256
>hälp
Visst, make the color of the tower more opaque and make the foreground a little bit darker.
If you take a look at a landscape photo you will notice that everything thats a bit further away than the foreground is lighter and less saturated

[Anonymous No.2119264]

>>2119260
Alright, thanks so far. I'll push it a bit further and use more reference.
Perspective seems kinda off to me but I don't know what to change, any ideas?

[Anonymous No.2119268]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2119273]

>>2119247
Do you mean draw for longer periods of time?
because i usually draw anywhere from 5-8 hours per day, but spread through out the day.
And if you mean for longer periods of time, how long should i draw before taking breakes and such?

[Anonymous No.2119275]

>>2119256
Fix the sun's position, the tower's shadow doesn't seem to match the sun's position.

[Anonymous No.2119331]

What should i add to my drawing routine?
I do 30 minutes of gesture, then 1 hour of outdoor/indoor sketches and 1 hour of portraits

i want to become a comic book artist but i dont know what to practice

[Anonymous No.2119332]

>>2119331
Gesture and study's in general are only effective if you're trying to apply what you've learned from imagination afterwards. That's the only way you actually know what you need to focus your study's on and also how you commit to memory what you just learned.

[Anonymous No.2119422]

>>2118957
Right, because perspective isn't a drawing skill or something you need to know in order to paint a landscape or a barn.
You can make pretty colors without knowing how to draw but that doesn't mean you'll be able to do anything decent with them.
Drawing is more important than painting by far

[Anonymous No.2119433]

>>2118489

Better?

[Anonymous No.2119453]

>>2118331
Bryan Johnson?

[Anonymous No.2119456]

Thoughts on this. I'm using the pen stylus I got for my phone and art flow for android to do this. I honestly can't believe that mobile interfaces have gotten this far. The only thing holding me back is the small screen size. Honestly fuck getting a conti display, I'll just get a tablet.

[Anonymous No.2119462]

Thoughts on this. I spent 8 dollars on the stylus for android and 4 dollars on the art flow app. With a little practice I get the feeling that this will be a better investment than a conti display. I'm actually amazed at how good mobile drawing software has become.

[Anonymous No.2119466]

Thoughts on this. I spent 8 dollars on the stylus for android and 4 dollars on the art flow app. With a little practice I get the feeling that this will be a better investment than a conti display. I'm actually amazed at how good mobile drawing software has become.

[Anonymous No.2119472]

>>2119466
It's very visible how much the lack of pressure sensitivity is hurting you, especially in the clouds.

If the software had some automated fade-in/fade-out and/or taper-in/taper-out plus some really kick-ass smudge/mix-brushes, it'd probably be possible to compensate for that.

But as-is, wouldn't use it for more than sketching

[Anonymous No.2119500]

Needs some cleaning up. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2119509]

>>2119472
As it stands I am still fumbling around the controls since I'm new to it (can't learn all of photos hop in a day) but I know for a fact that there are multiple brush types. So lack of sensitive is hardly an issue. When\if I learn this it will be a great tool that is cheap and convenient. Besides you have no idea what my drawing process is. This is exactly how my work looks at this stage and I function fine with blending. If you think that this will only be good for sketches then you obviously aren't good enough paint without using sensitivity as a crutch.

[Anonymous No.2119513]

>>2119500
comfort zone

[Anonymous No.2119525]

drawing from today. 2 hour pose. a woman at the drawing place actually recommended to me 2 more model drawing sessions in the town i live, and they are both long poses.

im getting tired of doing gesture drawings and 1 minute poses so im gonna give that a try

[Anonymous No.2119527]

>>2119525
i also did this for about 45 minutes outside because there were too many people in the room for me to get a good angle on the model.

[Anonymous No.2119532]

>>2119500
another one
>>2119513
if you're talking about the pose I agree, I wanna work on expressing more personality in figures.
>>2119525
I really like your contours, makes me think of graffiti artist like guava, broke, and gats.

[Anonymous No.2119533]

>>2119500
Are you bagbosse? If yes, better than usual. If no, be better than bagbosse. Colors would be nice.

[Anonymous No.2119534]

How u like my portrait. Wat should I work on?

[Anonymous No.2119536]

>>2119453
No

[Anonymous No.2119538]

>>2119533
Nope, not bagbosse.

[Anonymous No.2119539]

>>2119534
Please fix the neck

[Anonymous No.2119542]

Not really a piece of art, but an asset I'm working on for a game, depicting the player. Are the proportions too much? What would you change?

[Anonymous No.2119544]

>>2119542
IMPO the bests need to be a bit bigger

[Anonymous No.2119554]

Uh, okay? Pretty much every artist in the world uses and considers pressure sensitivity to be an essential thing, not a crutch. That's like saying that using color is a crutch. Sounds like you are suffering from a case of stockholm syndrome. If you're going to try to make complex compositions like this, your art will be objectively worse than that made on a pressure-sensitive tablet, but hey, your choice. I would use a solution like this for on-the-go-sketching, maybe thumbnailing, but definitely not for serious work.

> Besides you have no idea what my drawing process is

There isn't really much variation in peoples "drawing process". I've seen just about every digital sketching, inking and painting process there is...

[Anonymous No.2119555]

>>2119554
that was in reference to >>2119509

[Anonymous No.2119556]

>>2119532
>if you're talking about the pose I agree, I wanna work on expressing more personality in figures.

meh. basquiat exists, you can get by with static poses your whole life if you want to. what I'd really worry about is shading. you can't just not have shading. it's arguably the thing most personal between artists when contour lines fail us. It's how we handle values and mark making in small and large areas. Basquiat shaded his drawings and paintings too, just in a very haphazard and irregular way, and always more concerned with color than value, but his flat subjects had weight to them.

It's what is so frustrating about popular artwork that bleeds into just being representational graphic design on tumblr and the like. A contour drawing where you happened to draw every strand of hair might seem nice but it tells us nothing about the artist and is the reason all that stuff blends together into one aesthetic that might as well be by the same artist.

You have got to shade every drawing, and render every inch of what needs to be rendered. You can leave whole swaths white if you want, or do simple gradations in light pencil, but you need something.

Da Vinci had a quote that seems almost pedestrian in it's simplicity, but it was about the difference between the great artists and the people who never get anywhere is being diligent about shading your drawings.

[Anonymous No.2119564]

>>2118928
Drawing is painting and painting is drawing. They are so connected to eachother that they were well could be the same, and regulars get them confused.
Read the book "The Practice & Science of Drawing" by Robert Henri, and then come back to this board

[Anonymous No.2119591]

>>2119564
I think you meant Harold Speed, not Robert Henri

[Anonymous No.2119596]

>>2119542
I'd make the thighs and breasts slightly smaller to bring the whole body in good proportion.

[Anonymous No.2119599]

>>2119556
Yeah I feel what youre saying, imma work on it

[Anonymous No.2119603]

>>2119554
Pressure sensitivity is sander and everyone knows that. But that does notEan that it is literally the only way to create a decent painting. And thaty friend could not be further from the truth.

Also I never stated what I would use this app for. I stated how well put together and convenient it was which is still true. And while I don't plan on using this for anything other than on the go animation, and board layout I still wouldn't say that the app is incapable of producing finished pieces. If you had used and seen it in action you would know that someone could easily craft amazing works once they put the effort into it.

It's easy to write something like this off, I should know, I did the same up until about a week ago when I ordered the stylus on sale. And from what I've seen, this and a few other apps areally definately not to be taken lightly.

[Anonymous No.2119625]

>>2119554
Pressure sensitivity is standard and everyone knows that. But that does not man that it is literally the only way to create a decent painting. And that my friend could not be further from the truth.

Also I never stated what I would use this app for. I stated how well put together and convenient it was which is still true. And while I don't plan on using this for anything other than on the go animation, and board layout I still wouldn't say that the app is incapable of producing finished pieces. If you had used and seen it in action you would know that someone could easily craft amazing works once they put the effort into it.

It's easy to write something like this off, I should know, I did the same up until about a week ago when I ordered the stylus on sale. And from what I've seen, this and a few other apps are really definitely not to be taken lightly.

[Anonymous No.2119627]

>>2119603
sander?

Yes, of course it's not the only way to create a decent painting, as I already said. A good artist can create a decent painting even with sand on a beach or chalk on a wall. But it's a matter of economy of effort. But hey, whatever works for you.

[Anonymous No.2119669]

an alien head

[Anonymous No.2119670]

>>2119669
and a robot

[Anonymous No.2119674]

>>2119669
Whats that weird color shit you have by your edges?

[Anonymous No.2119675]

>>2119674
chromatic aberration

[Anonymous No.2119677]

>>2119670
Woah, that's pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.2119678]

>>2119677
thanks man

[Anonymous No.2119681]

>>2119674
>chromadepth aberrant

[Anonymous No.2119705]

>>2119677
Chromatic abberation is woefully overused. Please enjoy responsibly.

[Anonymous No.2119714]

what the hell is Chromatic abberation

[Anonymous No.2119716]

>>2119705
The robot doesn't have any, though

[Anonymous No.2119722]

>>2119716
Yeah I don't use it often, i just thought it suited the alien head

[Anonymous No.2119723]

>>2119716
woops, replied to the wrong anon, sorry.

[Anonymous No.2119724]

>>2119722
if you want to make it more realistic, then blurr it, like all ufo pictures and add even more aberration

[3DPD !!QBbzNWwIreJ No.2119741]

>>2119670

[Anonymous No.2119743]

>>2119741
Honestly I think looks better. It really solidifies the "sci fy"ness of the image.

[Anonymous No.2119745]

>go to painting course made by local painter
>"lets try charcoal this time"
>draw embarassingly bad shit
>"its pretty good"
>"teacher" keep insisting in polishing the turd
should I keep going?

[Anonymous No.2119751]

>>2119745
I don't know what your teachers plan is, or what's right for you to learn at this point in time. Maybe he doesn't want to dwell too much on the fundamentals right now and just show you that getting lost in polishing the details can be fun. Or maybe he's actually unaware of the concept of polishing a turd, who knows.

Either way, anything that keeps you thinking and engaged with art is a good thing, so if the alternative is that you're not doing as much art, then yes, you should keep going. Weigh the alternatives carefully and decide.

[Anonymous No.2119752]

Something from earlier

>>2119745
Keep going to the course, but stop polishing the turd

>>2119670
loks good, but that design is pretty wonky

[Anonymous No.2119760]

>>2119751
>>2119752
dunno, I don't know if to believe that they're a bunch of idiots or liars
also there's people coming in and out all the fucking time to look at pictures in that place, and its fucking unnerving
I have to admit I'm mad as fuck, and I'm not even sure why
I felt like a fucking retard when from what I've seen I'm probably better than the "teacher" at actual figure drawing
christ fuck I don't remember getting so upset at something

[Anonymous No.2119766]

>>2119760
Try to gauge where he's coming from. He may be afraid to critique you because he wants to avoid negativity (something many art teachers are guilty of). Does he critique other students or does he shower everyone with praise?

[Anonymous No.2119767]

>>2119760
well, if it makes you feel worse about your art, then quit it. If you think it keeps you more "at it" and thinking about it than you would if you quit it, continue. Be honest with yourself and know the limits of your self-motivation.

[Anonymous No.2119773]

>>2119766
No, its an all-friends-and-lets-be-happy-togheter kind of place. students are like two or three me comprised. there is no critique of any kind
>>2119767
I've gone there to learn, but the first thing that they come up with was "what do you want to do?" I mean what the fuck, what the heck do you fucking think I've come to a painting course for you fucking stupd bitch for fucking god sake
I wish I didn't split the canvas in two and threw it into the trash when I got out to show you what the fuck
I need to fucking punch someone in the mouth fucking bitch christ

[Anonymous No.2119775]

>>2119773
Sounds like you've got some issues to deal with other than the class bro, but just drop it if it annoys you so much.

[Anonymous No.2119780]

drawing some spooky shit

[Anonymous No.2119784]

>>2119752
I love the thumbnail, but there is something about the texture, it looks too slapped on like manga screentone and too much JPG compression. Did you enlarge the texture?

Also, center area with the girl could be a bit more rewarding to look at. What's she holding in her hand and why is her left arm hanging like that?

As it is, I think the male statues arms are the most interesting parts of the picture, but I don't think you intended that.

[Anonymous No.2119785]

>>2119780
Noice
with vines or stuff that acts as a middleground of black water and bone at the botton it would be even cuter

[Anonymous No.2119792]

>>2119780
I'm loving this! please keep us updated if you change anything!

[agar No.2119821]

>>2119741
I find it pretty pathetic when jealous anons do stuff like this..

[Anonymous No.2119829]

>>2119230
Finished this today. Definitely going to try this painting method in the future.

[Anonymous No.2119830]

Small portrait from life. Ivory black and white.

[Anonymous No.2119851]

Got a request for an Metal Gear character.
How did I do?
Tried to do an upward shot

[Anonymous No.2119863]

[Anonymous No.2119879]

>>2118799

Trying to knock it in more, I think one more pass and I'll be good. I almost kind of want to drop this and do something else, but if I can split it between days I'll be fine.

[3DPD !!QBbzNWwIreJ No.2119931]

>>2119821
The fuck? I was being helpful. That was my critique to make it better.

[Anonymous No.2119937]

help

[Anonymous No.2119946]

>>2119937
You hit jackpot. Beautiful strokes. Just a little interesting lighting and keep working on the details. A+++

[Anonymous No.2119998]

I don't know how to finish this to a professional level

[Anonymous No.2120003]

>>2119937
The lighting and mood is brilliant, I'd suggest pulling the background value up to a grey with maybe a hint of blue/purple
I understand it's stylized, but rounding out that chin a bit would soften her look a lot, also needs a bit more edge in that chin.
What if you made her cloth a bit softer and pillowy- that might add to the mood?
This looks great though, keep at it.

[Anonymous No.2120004]

>>2119937
You're Korean, aren't you

[Anonymous No.2120035]

>>2119433
basshunter ayyy

[Anonymous No.2120069]

>>2115463

[Anonymous No.2120127]

[Anonymous No.2120130]

i should do more head studies sigh

>>2119937
this is really nice. I think some cathedral looking background of some sort would add to the light atmosphere

[Anonymous No.2120137]

WIP, but I need some tips on how to improve.

[Anonymous No.2120188]

>>2115463
I know everyone draws GoT these days...

[Anonymous No.2120193]

still strugling with a proper expression. How is it looking pals?

[Anonymous No.2120195]

>>2120193
pic didnt attach

[Anonymous No.2120197]

>>2120137

Tips to improve-

1) After you get done with this, do it again, but focus on construction. Right now it's easy to see that you you didn't construct your sketch properly before starting the study. Try to understand what the body is doing, the torso is leaning back and towards the viewer. In your study it is much straighter.

2) Flip your canvas, as you work. It really helps you see what you are doing wrong. I don't know if pic related helps, but I can clearly see how you need to fix up your sketch.

3) For your shading, start with the largest brush you can possibly use first. Then gradually go smaller.Almost that entire right side of the image should be in some light shadow. You can go and pick out the actual core shadows and the highlight along the glut later. Right now you need to start rough over the whole figure then refine certain parts.

But really... really #1. When you are done, do it again sometime soon after and try to improve.

[Anonymous No.2120220]

>>2120195
you're on the right track buddy. ALways remember to paint the eyelid crease or she could end up looking like smeagol. here are some suggestions

[Anonymous No.2120229]

>>2120220
thx for support buddy will try to fix that

[Anonymous No.2120247]

>>2119669
This is fucking awesome. Would love to see a the rest of the character though

[Anonymous No.2120254]

>>2120003
>>2119946
>>2120130
I initially drew this on a netbook and I realized that the image was slightly stretched and unsaturated. Fixed the chin using another pc but messed up the planes of the head.
Too lazy to do drapery. Thanks

>>2120004
Nope, but I'm Asian.

>>2120137
Using silhouette is good but I think constructing the torso is better. Also, try to render it as a whole by simplifying what you see into 3-4 values.

[Anonymous No.2120326]

>>2117761
Underated post. It looks fine for now.

[Anonymous No.2120329]

Bridgman study

[Anonymous No.2120432]

>>2116722
That's Ms. Jenner's fault.

[Anonymous No.2120434]

>>2118053
Is that supposed to be Millia?

[Anonymous No.2121133]

>>2120197
>>2120254

Much appreciated, anons.

[Anonymous No.2121211]

>>2120137
your form is off. the bust in the ref is standing in a normal stance but the back is arched so the shoulders are pulled back. you have it drawn so that the chest is pushed out. check the vertical line frim thw boob to the stomach. this should be in the beginner thread honestly. bad drawing and its just greyscale values not even color