/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.2111447]

Old thread: >>2108000

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.

Before asking "what should I read/view/study/learn," consult this link:
http://irishopp.hubpages.com/hub/how-to-draw-learn
If your question is related to Loomis' "Fun with a Pencil" perhaps you should consult this link as well.

This thread's exercise will be a composition study. Study this image's composition through thumbnails, color study, or otherwise.

Threadly reminder to avoid carpal tunnel:
http://www.healthline.com/health/carpal-tunnel-wrist-exercises

[Anonymous No.2111678]

>read vilpoo
>gestures are 'okay' need some work
>next chapter to draw people with circles
>looks really bad

i just can't

i don't see how it's possible to improve

[Anonymous No.2111682]

>>2111678
you want to improve? stop saying it's impossible and draw more. Drawing one page and saying it looks bad is not enough, keep going and draw 5 more pages. Also Draw less to try to get good and more for your enjoyment

[Anonymous No.2111690]

whoops, posted my shit study right after you said to move to the new thread.

[Anonymous No.2111850]

>>2111447
can someone explain how to do this exercise, I'm trying and it just looks terrible

[Anonymous No.2111860]

>>2111850
the ones I erased were even worse btw...

[Anonymous No.2111864]

>>2111447
>not using subject field
Explain yourself, faggot.

[Anonymous No.2111870]

>>2111864
calm yourself, faggot

[Anonymous No.2111961]

>>2111870
No.
It makes finding those threads easier, and way too many newfags have problems with finding this thread, even when they know about catalog.

[Anonymous No.2112008]

>>2111864
For fuck's sake.
I knew I was forgetting something. Next time.

[Anonymous No.2112027]

this took a while, and i can usually draw people better its just because of his weird angle and what not, I'm used to drawing stand alone forward facing profiles of people

[Anonymous No.2112029]

>>2111864
as long as you can ctrl+f "beginner" then its fine

[Anonymous No.2112031]

Pencil drawings of relatives who I got to pose for me. The first one is bothering me a bit, but the second one looks better. Tips and such? Is this symbol drawing still?

[Anonymous No.2112033]

>>2112031
quick tip get some better looking relatives

[Anonymous No.2112034]

>>2112033
Sorry my grandmother is fucking old. Not much I can do there.

[Anonymous No.2112044]

>>2112027
drew a flower, i can also draw really good hands but they take a while

[Anonymous No.2112045]

>>2112044
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.2112048]

>>2112045
Try this one, but with less hard lines and more shading. Use shading to show depth and curves, as well as lighting.

[Anonymous No.2112068]

>>2112048
not a fan of this flower :/

[Anonymous No.2112084]

>>2112068
truthfully i have always preferred 3d art work more, but recently i have been trying to draw, i feel like i could draw for hours if i knew how to well and have fun the whole time

[Anonymous No.2112085]

>>2112084

[Anonymous No.2112099]

anyone got a link to a good tutorial on how to draw the body?

working on a sphere and shaping/molding it into a head is fair enough but the body has multiple shapes that move and change in different angles

[Anonymous No.2112119]

>find a pdf of that perspective book in the link in the OP
>"perspective made easy"
>230 pages

[Anonymous No.2112124]

>>2112119
>doodled shit I like
>"-FUNDAMENTALS"
>decided to find good lecture course on perspective to start
>80 hours
>"come on that's nothing I'll breeze through it with ease"
>end up buying t-square
>stopped shaving, dropped job
>draw nothing, but measured perspective

I'm fucked.

[Anonymous No.2112163]

r8 muh shit

[Anonymous No.2112191]

sorry for hands. i drew too small. also I haven't studied head construction much yet so I just dicked around.

[Anonymous No.2112202]

>>2112163
needs more loomis anon.

>>2111860
lets see, give yourself more space to fit this in.
don't just try draw the mountain randomly,
try understand what youre drawing, the form of the mountains.

this would be a great exercise for using the side of a pencil.

[Anonymous No.2112206]

>>2112202
Excuse me but what is loomis?

[Anonymous No.2112210]

>>2112124
you ducked up

[Anonymous No.2112211]

>>2112202
>>2112206
Yeah I want to loomis too, what is it?

[Anonymous No.2112295]

>>2112206
>>2112211
read the fucking op

[Anonymous No.2112330]

Startet doing Dodson today (see picture).
Since I have to work 8 hours 5 days per week I only have 2 hours per day to spend on learning to draw.
Should I even try or is there no hope for a 24 year old German whos only goal is to partake in /co/s Draw threads and make some anons happy?

[Anonymous No.2112339]

>>2112330
There's hope anon, keep going!
29 here

[Anonymous No.2112344]

>>2112339
When did you start?

[Anonymous No.2112350]

Anyone know any good prospective books?

[Anonymous No.2112369]

>>2112119
What's it like being the lowest common denominator? I imagine it's pretty great, not ever having to suffer the indignity of being talked down to.

[Anonymous No.2112375]

What is your favorite bodypart to draw? I fucking love hands, even though it's probably one of the things I'm worst at.

[Anonymous No.2112377]

>>2112350
perspective made easy is a good thing to start with

[Anonymous No.2112380]

>>2112119
Except that it has like 2 inch margins, double spacing, 16 point font, and plenty of pretty pictures to appease your ADHD.

[Anonymous No.2112386]

perspective drawing handbook . pdf

google that for a direct link. similar shit may prefer it.

tbh scott robertsons how to draw is I think the most up to date perspective book.

[Anonymous No.2112389]

>>2112375
The penis.

[Anonymous No.2112394]

>>2112375
Dicks.

[Anonymous No.2112396]

>>2112386
I heard robertson is for people who already know about basic perspective

[Anonymous No.2112400]

>>2112396
yea maybe it is. it has a lot of info crammed into the first few pages, so whilst it covers it a bit its probably not best for a beginner.

there must be some idiots guide or a quick youtube vid or something.

[Anonymous No.2112402]

>>2112330
Been on this book for almost 2 months, having a lot of trouble retaining information,
25 here, you've got more of a shot than I do.

[Anonymous No.2112405]

>>2112375
The long schlong

[Anonymous No.2112427]

Been trying to get into drawing for a while now, and now I'm done with Uni for the moment I can focus on it. Today I just did some warm up exercises, copied some poses, drew my hands then just some doodling. Tomorrow I'll start on some course or book and learn from that.

[Anonymous No.2112434]

>>2112427
keep it up bro

[Anonymous No.2112438]

if I wanted to buy a mannequin, what should I look for?

[Anonymous No.2112439]

>>2112438
If only we still had slavery

[Anonymous No.2112443]

>>2112427

I'd suggest you hold up on drawing people for a little bit. Focus on observation drawing (still lives of objects and shit) and on construction drawing (drawing basic 3d objects, building up complex objects from simple objects). Once you get those down pat then start looking into shit like gesture and proportions.

What are your ultimate goals with drawing? What's your endgame? With that you can get better direction

[Anonymous No.2112446]

>>2112330
Wew. Good work, Anon. Don't worry about your age. 99 y/o here.

[squircles !pjwjmEQ1RM No.2112448]

i think op is sadistic with this image for beginners
spent all day trying to figure where to put stuff.
not even doing propper drawing over top.
fuck that.

[Anonymous No.2112475]

How do you deal with getting worse?

Been on dobsons book for a while now but I seem to understand less the work I try to study, is this normal?
>gestures seem shittier
>can't into portraits
>etc

[Anonymous No.2112481]

>>2111447
just did Picasso's Igor Stravinsky upside exercise for the first time ever, also first time illustrating a actual full-ish (started to low so i ended up cutting off the bottom quarter) drawing ever really. Sorry for phone quality.

[Anonymous No.2112507]

>>2112448
>sadistic
it was literally a thumbnail needed

[Anonymous No.2112516]

>>2112434
Thanks

>>2112443
>construction drawing (drawing basic 3d objects, building up complex objects from simple objects)
You mean perspective stuff? Or just trying to freehand draw 3d objects?

>What are your ultimate goals with drawing? What's your endgame?
Don't really have a definite endgame, but I guess it'd be similar to the skills an animator/comic artist might value - drawing semi-stylized figures from imagination, form, perspective, composition. I'd still like to have some competency with realistic stuff and use real life studies to inform the stylized stuff though.

[Anonymous No.2112549]

>>2112448
I'm glad Im not hte only one, the shapes feel too complicated in this picture, and there are too many

[Anonymous No.2112553]

Tribute to Silent Hill 2. I think it turned out ok, though this was more using reference and no development towards form. I Think I'll go back and try doing this again with my own skeleton, and compare.

[Anonymous No.2112767]

I forgot how to practice freehand perspective
everything is a mess, I thought I could correct it after but fuck

[Anonymous No.2112770]

Around Chapter 3 on Vilppu's video guide. Wondering if it's okay to jump onto the Faces subject whenever. Or do I need to finish the first 12 chapters before moving onto faces?

[Anonymous No.2112786]

>>2112770
Pretty sure I saw this question being asked like 2 weeks ago or something. Finish the whole series.

[Anonymous No.2112801]

>>2112031
they look uptight as fuck

[Anonymous No.2112831]

>>2112344
Last month. Having fun with drawing.

[Anonymous No.2112857]

>>2112831
Drawing is always fun as long as you do it for fun. It's not as fun when you only do it to get better, like a lot of d/ic/ks here do.

[Anonymous No.2112870]

>>2112857
> It's not as fun when you only do it to get better
It should be fun, period. Grinding out studies is supposed to be a long and tiring, but enjoyable process.

> like a lot of d/ic/ks here do.
Eh, what's the point of even coming here if you're not serious about your work.

[Anonymous No.2112873]

please help. first time doing poses (the right side)

[Anonymous No.2112878]

>keep telling myself that I'll git gud
>fantasize about it every hour of every day
>draw once every couple weeks

I'm depressed and disappointed in myself.

[Anonymous No.2112883]

>>2112878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfVn_cfHU

[Anonymous No.2112886]

>>2112873
It kinda looks like you weren't focusing on construction. You drew the silhouettes of the hip-cube and breast-spheres(?), but didn't actually draw the 3D shape they represent. Doing that gives your drawing more depths, and keeps it from being flat.

[Anonymous No.2112891]

>>2112886

I thought I drew the depth in the hip cube but I guess not. It looked like it to me. Thanks though, maybe I'll look into drawing in depth better.

[Anonymous No.2112896]

>>2112873
Try drawing line of action for the body angle.

[Anonymous No.2112916]

My attempt at the perspective study

[Anonymous No.2112925]

Hi beginner thread! Since you guys helped so much with my cookie monster, so I thought that you could help revise this piece. critique is very deeply appreciated

[Anonymous No.2112945]

>>2112925
face seems a bit flat. Might want to shift all of its features over a bit to it's left, and show how it curves. Armour looks fine, gun looks a tad flat as well, especially near the barrel.

[Anonymous No.2112949]

>>2112883
Small dick, but so hot guy.

[Anonymous No.2112951]

are there any books in the sticky on drawing shapes? seems like their mostly just about drawing anatomy or people

[Anonymous No.2112957]

>>2112945
Thanks for the tips! the face looks great now, and I changed the barrel hoping to give it more depth
any other tips? more crits?

[Anonymous No.2113111]

my measured ellipses are shit
how to improve?

[Anonymous No.2113119]

>>2112916
you managed to fit everything in because you stretched it out to fit in a square.

its not a square picture

[Anonymous No.2113126]

>>2112957
Not enough points. 0/30/60/90 is easier than 0/45/90.

Top right of top circle needs more curve. In general, for each quadrant, you need to aim past the node and then try to get your angle closer to the node tangent just before you get to it.

[Anonymous No.2113127]

>>2113126
Meant for >>2113111

[Anonymous No.2113159]

>>2113126
thanks

[Anonymous No.2113357]

Critique please

[Anonymous No.2113390]

Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.2113398]

>>2112191

It looks pretty decent but nigga what are you doing with those eyes, they're looking in completely different directions.

[Anonymous No.2113402]

>>2112475

How long have you been getting worse for?

I find, at least for me, quality seems to come in waves. I feel like I get a week or two of big improvement, a week of stagnation, a week of feeling like shit and being unable to do even the fundamental shit I learned, and then I start improving again. Some of that is probably tied to my attitude about it.

[Anonymous No.2113406]

>>2113398
people like you are so boring to be around

[Anonymous No.2113408]

>>2113406

sorry

[Anonymous No.2113433]

>>2112375
the iron rod

[Anonymous No.2113448]

>>2113119
What, no I cropped the rightmost part off, are you mad or something or too lazy to actually compare the images?

[Anonymous No.2113453]

>>2112068
Either hatch or stop using a ballpoint pen, man.

[Anonymous No.2113460]

>>2112878
Same problem here. Every day is pure regret that I didn't draw the day before, and it stacks up for every day until I finally reset the regret by drawing for a few hours and having fun with it. Then several days without drawing, rinse repeat.

If you figure out how to stop the vicious cycle, please tell me..

[Anonymous No.2113471]

>>2113460
blue mushrooms raise willpower

[Anonymous No.2113485]

>>2113460
self discipline and/or join the military. it will teach you how to make yourself do things.

secondary option, cancel all cable subscriptions, turn off TV, turn off internet (or throw them out, or download those parental control systems that can lock you out of them). Cellphone too. No electronics, no distractions for a minimum of 48 hours. You will likely become extremely bored and either start drawing or start doing something else. Quit distracting yourself anon, get to work.

[Anonymous No.2113573]

>>2113460
>If you figure out how to stop the vicious cycle, please tell me..
Draw today. Mark on a calendar that you drew. Don't break the chain.

[Anonymous No.2113612]

I have a photoshop related question. What would you say are the best brush settings for sketching and then painting? I always feel awkward with my brushes, either they feel too heavy or too light.

[Anonymous No.2113618]

>>2113612
>best brushes
this is insanely subjective and super hard to answer in any useful fashion. maybe try the brushes over at ctrl paint?

[Anonymous No.2113626]

>>2113618
Did some research, think I found something that suits me. Thanks anyway.

[Anonymous No.2113645]

>>2113402
A month, I actually only just got into learning properly and used to just start drawing until an image came out (if that makes sense).
How ever when I first started doing the excersises in keys to drawing and right side of the brain I nailed them on my first try, trying to repeat them for later excersises how ever produces a far crappier result.

[Anonymous No.2113715]

[Anonymous No.2113746]

>>2113715

Looks like figure drawing is too advanced for you ATM. Try that shit on still lives and get the hang of that before you start drawing people.

[Anonymous No.2113853]

I'm gonna dump some studies I've been doing and I want any and all criticism. Before we get started, I chicken scratch like a motherfucker, so I know I have that problem, and I'm workin on it.

1/3

[Anonymous No.2113854]

2/3

[Anonymous No.2113856]

3/3

any wondering, yes. this is Howard Brodie. I really like his and Charles Dana Gibson's style

[Anonymous No.2113872]

>>2113853
>>2113854
>>2113856

You have a good sense of silhouette, shape design and composition. These all have attractive compositions (except #2, just move the camera a bit to the left). But as you said, the detailing and lines need improvement. But this is much easier than the other way around. You have the big picture down, now comes the relatively easier part.

For starters, try to make your lines more meaningful. The directionless shading on the bottom of pic #2 doesn't work very well.

I think the best is #3, but why are those thin lines all over the guy. They don't seem to have purpose. Try erasing those. I think it will improve the piece.

[Anonymous No.2113875]

>>2113872

Oops I missed the part where you said they were studies. So I guess the compositions were taken from those artists you named?

[Anonymous No.2113880]

>>2113872
I agree. #3 is my favorite. I dont know if this belongs in the beginner thread or not. Just wanted some feedback. Thanks

[Anonymous No.2113883]

>>2113875
Yeah, I have a hard time coming up with poses out of the blue. I usually have to look at a model or the picture itself

[Anonymous No.2113931]

>>2113715
that's very bad

[Anonymous No.2113949]

Hey beginner thread! any tips for this strange trader creature

[Anonymous No.2113993]

Okay so I have been working on trying to improve free handing portraits. I decided to do a self portrait and feel like it could use a lot of work. I dont know if I messed up on the anatomy set up or the contrast with shading but I want to improve. Can anyone give me some advice or tips on how to approach this?

[Anonymous No.2114009]

Can anyone tell me how badly I fucked up?

[Anonymous No.2114011]

>>2114009
You were born.

[Anonymous No.2114013]

>>2114009
pretty bad

bad posture, bad gesture,confusing anatomy, fucked perspective

basically, every trap that beginners fall in, you fell in. brush up on them good old basics and the sticky and you should see a quick improvment

[Anonymous No.2114018]

>>2113993
The face in general looks a bit off, but hat depends, maybe you just look that way? The shading in the top portion of the hair may need to be darker, but besides that the hair/clothes looks good.

[Anonymous No.2114022]

>>2114018
Would it help if I post the pic I attempted to draw? My face is at a tilt but that lighting in the original picture did not really show it so I have a hard time putting that into perspective.

[Anonymous No.2114053]

>>2114011
>bullying in a beginner thread or even any thread
How retarded can you get? Scum like you ruin this board.

[Anonymous No.2114056]

>>2114053
>ruin this board
>/ic/

[Anonymous No.2114155]

How did /ic/ practice the loomis mannequin when reading figure drawing for all its worth? Did you copy pictures directly from the book, draw from reference, draw from imagination?

basically, what are some exercises I can do to go along with Figure drawing for all its worth?

[Anonymous No.2114167]

>>2114155
copy images, understand them, copy them more
then move onto reference pictures, try to see what i did learn in the book
then go back to book again
then from imagination. if its not right, repeat until good.
basically thats how i learn from any book.

[Anonymous No.2114170]

>>2114155
Apply the skeleton you're given to reference. That's pretty much the best way.

[Anonymous No.2114211]

I can't understand the loomis books. I don't know whether it's his writing style or what but the words just bounce off of me I can't keep focused reading them. Has anyone else experienced this?

[Anonymous No.2114239]

Trying to get an idea of how people do their linework. Whenever I try to draw outlines, I'm stuck either drawing inaccurately, or choppily. See pic related: First drawing is me drawing in one fluid motion, and the line has character and flow to it, but it's obviously horrible inaccurate. In the second drawing, I drew with a series of short strokes, and so the line is accurate, but it looks choppy and ugly. Third is me tracing over my choppy drawing with fluid motion, but I feel like it's still too inaccurate.

Do I just need to practice more? Is there a method to this? So far my solution has been to draw choppily, and then come back with the eraser tool and "shave" away the weird bits so it looks like a solid flowing line. But it's hideously time consuming, and I feel like there should be a better way.

[Anonymous No.2114261]

>>2114239
Pencilfag here and I can spam as many short strokes as I want and still keep shit smooth enough and not inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.2114267]

>>2114239
I am not sure but you can use time for the calligraphy lessons.

[Anonymous No.2114332]

>>2114239
I think doing #3 is cool, just keep practicing that way and it will get easier over time. I think the "shaving" method you described is bad for the final piece though. It could drain all the life out of the lines, which is the opposite of what you want, I think.

But I think the eraser tool could be used like this: Do something like #3, but if you draw a part you don't like, like the bottom of the peanut, there is a sharp bulge, just erase the whole line in that part only, and redraw it. When you do this, try to keep the momentum of the overall line in mind, if necessary repeat the motion of the whole line ("ghost" it) and then put down the final line. I hope that wasn't too confusing to read.

[Anonymous No.2114349]

Fuck i'm bad

[Anonymous No.2114354]

practicing coloring
how is it

[Anonymous No.2114355]

>>2114354
Meh.

[Anonymous No.2114358]

>>2114355
I think it's the drawing because I was holding my pen with my asscheeks and I didn't really give that much of a fuck
but yeah, I can see how it's not "alive" like other animu drawings

[Anonymous No.2114361]

>>2114358
>how it's not alive
meant for the coloring and well as drawing

[Anonymous No.2114369]

Hallo,
i know this is probably the wrong place to start, because my drawings arent very good. I tried to ask for tips on /b/, but i didnt get any good tips, i want to make stuff like this look more alive. This pic is what i do atm, i just got bacj into drawing (more doodeling) recently. would be nice to get tips, if not. On my way to page

[Anonymous No.2114377]

>>2114239
My technique for circles is a slow&steady drag, very quick is hardly ever accurate, too slow and it can get a little wonky.

Practice both small circles made with wrist motion and larger ones with your entire arm.

[Anonymous No.2114380]

>>2114369
Not sure just what sort of tips I could even give to you. Whatever it is that you're drawing right now looks pretty damn sweet though, rather interested to see something bigger and as detailed as this.

[Anonymous No.2114411]

>>2114380
what do you mean, by bigger and as detailed, you mean like filling up a whole A4 page with a mandala like thing? My problem is like i mentioned before , these things i do look so flat, but i want them to look more a live, so the question is should i shade someparts, add 3d like objects tried that looked weird, i honestly dont know. this reply probably isnt that usefull but here you go. The imgae is taken from Youtube, this look is what i want to achieve

[Anonymous No.2114420]

>>2114411
Yeah, that's what I meant. You probably need to shade your stuff, but not in randomly and all over the place. Look up the sticky and read up on shading, perhaps that will help you out a little bit. Don't make it entirely 2D as well, give it some slight depth, but don't go overboard with 3D objects because it'll just look weird like you said.

[Anonymous No.2114424]

>>2114411
You could make at least 3k a month on patreon.

[Anonymous No.2114438]

>>2114420
ok tahnk you, i will try to improve myself on that way, maybe we see eachother in an other thead again

[Anonymous No.2114440]

>>2114438
Hey man, no problem and good luck with your studies. Just remember - don't give up and never stop improving!

[Anonymous No.2114441]

>>2114424
thats not my work (i wish i would be that good) , its from Youtube, this guy got my into drawing again, check his channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtGTAa-xarr2HrEKRgRUHQ

[Anonymous No.2114448]

I am trying to master anatomy. Does this look right?

[Anonymous No.2114451]

>>2114448
not an expert, but the head looks to round and the breast muscles look kind weird

[Anonymous No.2114452]

>>2114448
Resize your image.
And no. Not to be an ass, but it's kinda at the point where it's difficult to critique.

[Anonymous No.2114453]

>>2114452
I'm sorry about that one, my drawing program always saves stuff as stupid sizes.

[Anonymous No.2114462]

>>2114453
I think anatomy is the least possible thing you should be mastering.

[Anonymous No.2114477]

>>2114369
>>2114411
You know dude, I think you are aiming too low if that is what you want to achieve. I mean as an example of the 'depth' you want to put into your work I guess I can see why you picked that image out, but your fish-thing is far more aesthetically pleasing than your youtube example.

Let me list out why your piece is stronger
-clear, interesting and dynamic silhouette
-although it is clearly a fantasy thing, elements seem to be stylized from reality instead of random meaningless graphic designs. You actually thought this out and made the parts work together. That youtube image is all over the place, shows less evidence of planning

If you want to achieve more depth, go further with what you did with the fish's bottom fin, that's very nice.
Also try to vary the thickness of your lines, not randomly like the youtube image, but strategically. It would look nice especially in places like the fish's mouth tentacles.

I'm sorry to shit on the youtube example so much (it's actually not that bad), but looking at your work, it is much superior to that image in many ways that I got a little irritated that you did not realize that.

[Anonymous No.2114480]

>>2114477
i´m not a positive person and selfcritic maybe that
explains this. But i honestly wouldnt know how to place this line varation im really insecure while drawing, i plan a lot, which you obviously already realized, could you maybe sent me a picture where this kind of varation is used ( i guess this will sound stupid to an experienced artist)? And thank you, feels good to hear that

[Anonymous No.2114486]

>>2114453
>>2114462

I can't even tell what gender you're going for. The body is indeterminate, and are those pecs or boobs??

Practice this stuff with pencil and paper, it's easier that way. And less chicken scratch!

[Anonymous No.2114492]

>>2114477
>Suggesting beginner artists even know what they want to achieve

I agree with your points on Silhouette, I have no idea whats happening in the second one, but it still looks better than the first to me.

Obvious lack of depth, the tail looks like a water slide, and the bottom fin looks like a mop.

I'd say it's due to him not actually planning this out in 3D, but just f;at shapes. Even if the silhouette is the exact same, the guidelines will help you shade it better.

[Anonymous No.2114497]

>>2114492
the waterslide-fish anon here, are you talking about
actually drawn guidelines or about written guidlines(im not a native speaker and i cant get the meaning through the context)

[Anonymous No.2114505]

>>2112375
the salmon

[Anonymous No.2114511]

;_;

[Anonymous No.2114532]

Is it normal to feel like everything you do is hopeless?

[Anonymous No.2114539]

>>2114532
Yes, and no.
I hear people bitch about it all the time. For me, I just keep going. Drawing is both frustrating, but fun. But when I get frustrated, it's more like a "fuck! Let me try again..." till I get it right.

[Anonymous No.2114561]

Currently learning from Loomis's "Fun With A Pencil" Drawing Woman Folks, Kids, & Eternal Youth. Whatever they mean. Do you like them, Anon? 99 y/o

[Anonymous No.2114593]

>>2114480
Look up line variation / line quality tutorials. Generally things in shadow will be drawn with a thicker line. Line is just another way to create the illusion of form and depth. But any basic tutorial could probably explain this better.

pic related : Example of nicely drawn tentacle-things.
Study this guy, more here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kunstformen_der_Natur

Don't worry too much about what looks impressive on the surface (for now). You can worry about that later. You want to have the substance to back up that polish (and you do, the youtube example doesn't)

>>2114492
>water slide
>mop
OK but I don't really care what his fish looks like. You can get away with drawing the weirdest looking things if you do it right. It's not the WHAT but the HOW.

>>2114492

[Anonymous No.2114690]

>>2114453
that's cos you save in png dumbass.

[Anonymous No.2114697]

Rate?

[Anonymous No.2114745]

>>2111447
Holy shit, that picture almost doesn't even seem real. The real world looks better than any concept art I've seen thus far.

[Anonymous No.2114757]

>>2114561
I'm your fan, 99 y/o, you are good :D

[Anonymous No.2114788]

Trying to learn drawing and I've worked with sculpture art in my highschool ap 3d design class, but always envied those who could draw it just seems so relaxing like reading or something I feel like if I was any good I could just put in headphones and draw for hours. This just doesn't feel right when I'm not making much progress yet. Any tips for how to start a picture I'm trying to draw pic related just want help of how to start what pens/pencils to use, and how to generally form a good drawing

[Anonymous No.2114789]

Some doodles, I'm not that new, love to browse and have always done doodles and patterns. Never any real pictures though more of a lurker.

[Anonymous No.2114801]

>>2114788
Progress pic
Pretty happy with tree but tried to hard to make it look like falling leafs around the tree and I don't like them

[Anonymous No.2114853]

Here's my upside down stravinsky exercise. I ran out of space because I'm a terrible judge of drawing size. Will that come naturally or will I have to practice that?

[Anonymous No.2114858]

>>2114853
Naturally, and not even just with drawing distance and depth perception gets better with age and experience with life, until you get so old you lose it cuz ur eyes get bad and shit but it's normal guessing you are 18ish

[Anonymous No.2114865]

someone please tell me if my approach to gestures is conducive to efficient learning? i am trying to find the balance between accurately marking each particular line without directly copying its 2d aspect ("thinking in 3d"), and making it clear and concise while at the same time not getting to detailed as to what it's supposed to represent such that i lose track of the whole image.

shits harder to do under 30secs than it looks

[Anonymous No.2114891]

>>2114853
I've been drawing for years and I run out of space sometimes if I don't start by marking out the general subject, mostly with humans as I start with the head

[Anonymous No.2114922]

>>2114697
eh

[Anonymous No.2114942]

>>2114865
These are not terrible, but you could work on your line control. Do not put down a line until you are sure you know where you want it to go - where it starts, where it stops, how intense it curves, how thick or thin it is.
In addition, make sure you know what your line is representing. In all of Loomis's books, he starts with a beautiful passage about what a line is. Is the next line a gesture line, showing the flow of the pose? Is it a contour, skirting around a limb to show its boundaries, or maybe a cross contour to show its geometry and foreshortening?
All this plays into line economy. When you get to the point where you can break a pose down into as few but controlled lines as possible, then you've got it. It's a lot to think about when you start, but controlling your hand and your lines is more important than finishing the pose. Don't worry if you get the whole pose down, worry about whether what you got down in clear and concise, make sure each line has a clear purpose and control

[Anonymous No.2114954]

>>2114942
seems like very sound advice. thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.2114986]

>>2114891
Same

[Anonymous No.2115029]

do I need loomis

[Anonymous No.2115086]

>>2113949
same guy again, this time with another strange, bright colored masked thing. I'm not quite comfortable with how the feet sit right now. any critique?

[Anonymous No.2115118]

>>2115029
Is there ever a reason not to loomis?
But yes, you do.

[Anonymous No.2115204]

>>2114757
Yes, yes praise me more. Pledge your loyalty to me.

Kek. How can this praise be real if Internet isn't real?

But thanks, Anon. 99 y/o

[Anonymous No.2115274]

How much does copying drawings online help? I've been doing it a few times with the Towergirls characters without tracing since I like the simplicity of the art style. I'll have to get to more advanced stuff sooner or later but I'm interested in drawing small cartoony characters similar to that.

[Anonymous No.2115296]

I'm having trouble placing the arms on the body, specifically the shoulders.

Also just the way arms hang naturally is getting the better of me and makes my poses appear stiff. It doesn't happen when I do quick studies, just if I draw a pose from my imagination.

Any place I should look to fixing this problem.

[Anonymous No.2115361]

>>2112481

Sheeeiiiit. That nigga weighs at least three fiddy.

[Anonymous No.2115364]

>>2113949
>>2115086

I like the color scheme, and to some extent your rendering. However, I can't help but notice a lack of fundamentals in your drawings. They feel very flat.
Work on your draftsmanship.
On the design side of things, "strange trader creature" doesn't really cut it. I hope you have this creature a bit more developed in your mind. It will only help you design it better.

[Anonymous No.2115373]

>>2115296
are you drawing your skeleton stick figures first?

[Anonymous No.2115404]

Why does it always look shit without the lines? Also general feedback is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.2115432]

>>2114789
Fish doodle guy frome above, i guess we are into the same still of drawing, i just started like 2 months ago, could you post some more of your stuff, i really like the patterns

[Anonymous No.2115446]

>>2115404
paint over the lines to get rid of them

[Anonymous No.2115450]

>>2115086
Love the colors and excellent job shading on the body, but the face is a bit lacking; I know it's obviously supposed to be blank like that but try working on it more just adding some ridges and better shadow work (on face only great use of shadows on neck thing) this will help you to advance and at least give something extra to the face

[Anonymous No.2115485]

>>2115404
clean up the silhouette of the one without the lines, it will look a lot better

[Anonymous No.2115503]

>>2115432
Ha I liked you'res a lot I never really make things like how yours is a fish I always mess up when I try to make something big even if I'm just trying to copy them, here's the doodle I'm working on now (bout 2 hours so far)

[Anonymous No.2115511]

>>2115404
well I think the lines halt us see the form/contours.

the soft edges fo the paint doesn't really lead the eye.

[Anonymous No.2115522]

not sure what i need work on

[Anonymous No.2115543]

Hey guys, Ive Started reading Drawing from the right side of the Brain, I was wondering if I really needed to purchase all the materials that it was asking for in the book, money is a bit tight right now.

[Anonymous No.2115547]

>>2113460
Glad I'm not in this realm.
Even if I don't feel like drawing, I force myself to draw at least 30 minutes (but I do the Peter Han exercise every day).

[Anonymous No.2115549]

Witcher sketch. Feedback?

[Anonymous No.2115556]

Are gestures supposed to be done from memory/imagination?

And if so, I am supposed to work off reference before off imagination?

[Anonymous No.2115574]

>>2115549
Ale ta gra już wyszła z mody, anon. Teraz wszyscy grają w Hatred.

[Anonymous No.2115619]

Early stages still with this, wondering if there are any particular changes I should make now before I start lighting and rendering.

I'm also open to the possibility that this is just fundamentally terrible and there is no point in continuing. That said it has been a very long time since I finished a piece, I kind of want to take this one to completion just as a learning exercise more than anything.

[Anonymous No.2115624]

>>2115574
Co z tego? Ta gra jest jak Yennefer -- zawsze rzecz młoda>>2115574

[Anonymous No.2115625]

I didn't expected a simple symetric pose like this to be that difficult to get right. Also first naked drawing, not sure what to think about this.

[Anonymous No.2115647]

>>2115543

Anyone?

[Anonymous No.2115657]

How are my gestures? I've given it a break at anatomy to loosen my figures. I spend a little less than 4 min on each, is that too long?

[Anonymous No.2115658]

>>2115503
i really like your curved lines tentacle like things, i got told abpve that i should do more line variation draw thin and thick lines to make objects look more alive, i can see this in your picture, are you drawing with fineliners? And how do you make the thick lines, i always mess this stuff up

[Anonymous No.2115660]

>>2115543
Tools are resourceful, but a pen/pencil on paper with a ruler should suite you just fine. I suggest practicing drawing with just a pencil instead of using too many different things.

[Anonymous No.2115662]

>>2115625
Your proportions are there, but can you draw the figure from different angles? Keep drawing the figure, try to get into gesture drawing.

[Anonymous No.2115664]

[Anonymous No.2115665]

>>2115522
Ears are too big, the tip should align with the eyebrows. Chicken scratches, try to draw with clean lines, practice drawing circles and straight lines. Eyes and mouth look like symbol drawings, learn its construction.

[Anonymous No.2115687]

>>2115664
Fuck off, weeb.

[Anonymous No.2115690]

So I've been doing Loomis and I drew a face pretty well, considering I can't draw at all.

[Anonymous No.2115693]

>>2115662
Thanks, I usualy draw more interesting poses than just a simple front view. I try drawing another one after I took care of stuff

[Anonymous No.2115695]

>>2115690
and then I thought "Hey it my fun to try my hand at shading, why not!"

I realised pretty fucking quickly why not. How do I shade? are there any resources I can use to train myself to see tone? How would you shade the face?

[Anonymous No.2115702]

How do i not get burnt out from drawing everyday?

[Anonymous No.2115711]

>>2115687
何で?

[Anonymous No.2115713]

>>2115690
that fuckin image size, PLEASE
on the other hand, good job keep going.

[Anonymous No.2115720]

>>2115556

No, gestures are are for work done from life as well as for work done from imagination. And they are for everything, not just human figures

It's good to work from life first, preferably a live model session (maybe look for those in your area, they are often free) or just people around you.

If not an option, then work from reference photos. Then you can directly compare whether you captured the gesture.
All this can be applied to works from imagination when you eventually feel comfortable creating gestures on your own.

[Anonymous No.2115721]

>>2115713
Sorry about that, I'll scale them down for next time. Any tips for my shitty shading?

[Anonymous No.2115723]

>>2115690
>474 KB, 10000x10000

[Anonymous No.2115725]

>>2115695
Start with keys to drawing. Shading is a whole fundamental fundamental, doe.

[Anonymous No.2115731]

>>2115723

[Anonymous No.2115732]

>>2115725
So I shouldn't start with loomis? I've been going through "Fun with a pencil". Should I ditch it and find a pdf of that?

[Anonymous No.2115766]

how do you paint to the point where it looks like the thing you're painting?

Pic related, my first attempt at painting something. It's an apple from life. Ive read some stuff about it before so I somewhat know what Im doing. I blocked in the main colors and blended. How do I go further?


Also another question, what does it mean when a painting has good or values? What's the difference between a painting that has good values and one that has bad values?

[Anonymous No.2115769]

>>2115702
enjoy what you do, I love coming back home and drawing, it's relaxing

[Anonymous No.2115770]

>>2115658
I use these pens pigma microns and they have the thicker line ones but truthfully I never use bigger than the .2, it is very persice; I never feel as though my pen is to blame for mistakes very reliable. And to make likes thicker I'm just going over it again and again it's time consuming but I like how it looks more, and more often then not I'm not drawing these many lines in re direction of the line I'm just doing 45 degree hatching with no space in between I've always had very steady hands so it comes easy to me and I like it more.

[Anonymous No.2115774]

>>2114369
>>2114789
>>2115503
Guys how do I even start a doodle if I put some lines on a page I always just erase then time after time can never get something started unless I'm tracing or copying

[Anonymous No.2115776]

>>2114697
i like it.

[Anonymous No.2115779]

>>2115625
boioioioing.

[Anonymous No.2115780]

>>2115770
Wow same here I just have the 03s and I got a few colors here's something I made and like a lot went hour it wasn't very hard

[Anonymous No.2115785]

>>2115766
wow okay I think I solved some of my problem, I switched to a soft brush instead of a hard one I was using and it made the blending a lot better. Still having trouble making it look more realistic

[Anonymous No.2115789]

>>2115619
perspective is off and the guy is too tall compared to the counters, unless he's supposed to be that tall. The drawing of the guy feels flat but I guess that comes with experience. Keep at it I think. Maybe look for references

[Anonymous No.2115801]

>>2115785
Paint the background in.

[Anonymous No.2115802]

>>2115789

Thanks, yeh I just realised I have barely been using references for this, because im stupid.

I was concerned he might be out of proportion but wasn't really sure, if you see it too then I will definitely try and fix it before I proceed.

As for him feeling flat, I agree, it's a problem I have with all my pieces. I probably just need to diehard practice gesture and branch out into more expressive, depthy compositions

[Anonymous No.2115806]

>>2115802

I have started shading and decided to remove the torch as it was cluttering the foreground. How in christ's name am I supposed to light the water???

[Anonymous No.2115827]

>>2115806
begginer here myself so take this with a grain of salt

Youre shading feels really random, you need to choose a light source and think of your drawing as shapes. You should know how to shade a shape from different light sources. Also your colors you used for the shading are wrong, I suggest using a multiply layer on top of your colors and used that to shade, it will make it easier


Here's a quick example I tried to do, though the lighting doesnt make sense, It's an easy source to do lol

[Anonymous No.2115834]

>>2115827
sorry for all the grammar mistakes there, don't know what happened...

[Anonymous No.2115838]

>>2115827
oh and as for the water, look up how real water ripples and study it, there is no other way to learn. You cant draw something you havent seen or learned. I personally don't know how

[Anonymous No.2115843]

>>2115774
Draw a shape fill it up with patterns.
Then think about, what part of an animal for example it could be, now you have an direction

[Anonymous No.2115849]

>>2115770
>>2115770
i actually used the same for my drawings, i like the 0,05 and 0,2 best for some reason ( i barely use the other 4). Thanks for the hatching tip, my hands arent that steady, but i could give it a try, maybe it looks better than my woobly thick lines i do by drawing lines next to each other.
<picture unrelated i just like it

[Anonymous No.2115876]

>>2115364
>>2115450

thanks guys. Changed up the mask and tried to add more reflated light to make depth.

your definitely right. I am lacking, but I'm learning too, slowly but surely. these are more my vanity works, just a quick expression, that's why i give them no more explanation then trader or monk. I feel like I need to do these alongside studies or I burn out. Hopefully as i keep doing both I will get exponentially better.

perhaps sometime soon ill try to post a study and see if I can get help there, I always get frustrated there

[Anonymous No.2115877]

>>2115732
there is an Art Book Thread @ /ic/ you'll find a link with tons of books. You'll find it there

[Anonymous No.2115943]

>>2115827

Thanks good advice, I have been told before that my shading is pretty random, must work on it

[Anonymous No.2115966]

>>2115619
I suggest defusing the fire to the right a bit (is it a fire arrow pointed at him?) and adding another light source on ceiling or outside then do a lot of work on the water trying to incorporate the light source an shadows to everything it's a great learning excersize. That said I wouldn't even have the picture as bright as it is right now, I feel this would be better if it was very dim and scary looking. It's good now though and regardless you should always finish it even just for yourself

[Anonymous No.2115969]

This is how use the reilly method?

[Anonymous No.2115970]

>>2115876
I actually love it now I was>>2115450
And I think it looks much better even finished I think you did a great job and should keep working, side note if you are making this mask because you don't know how to make a face you should def learn (not this pic tho mask looks nice)

[Anonymous No.2116106]

Any book that approach this method? Don't recommend asaro head, I'm looking for something more simplified.

[Anonymous No.2116110]

>>2116106
Try Loomis's Head and Hands book? That's where that specific image is from, anyway.

[Anonymous No.2116123]

>>2115780
How is that effect done?

[Anonymous No.2116153]

>>2116123
Went from a pencil in the beginning of the lines got from light to dark shading from back to front so it doesn't have a real possible light source angle and then moved from light to dark on pens with the same strategy and went back adding smaller connecting lines some more subtle shading and erasing the boxes I had to make

[Anonymous No.2116158]

Some people are so good at making things look 3D is it all just in shading and distortion I can never get it right

[Anonymous No.2116223]

>>2115969

you got the title of that book mate?

[Anonymous No.2116245]

>>2115711
>Why?/Nande
Because no one can read your weeb shit, thats why.

[Anonymous No.2116249]

>>2116245
I posted a drawing, not the text tho.

[Anonymous No.2116250]

>>2115970
Thanks! and no, I'm not hiding behind the mas lol. I just figured these beings would be strange and mysterious. Perhaps next round I'll go for a face

[Anonymous No.2116259]

is it ok if my gesture drawings are stick figures?

[Anonymous No.2116277]

>>2114369
>>2114411
>>2114789
>>2115503
>>2115780
*doodlegasm ensues*
>pic related but not mine

[Anonymous No.2116291]

Help

[Anonymous No.2116297]

ignore the glaring mistakes on that back

[Anonymous No.2116300]

[Anonymous No.2116306]

>>2116259

You'll find out sooner or later that it is very limiting in expression. You can get away with some poses using stick figures but only if you know about rhythm so that it doesn't look like, well, a stick.

[Anonymous No.2116310]

>>2116297
Help with what?

[Anonymous No.2116316]

>>2116310
Anything you see i need help with, any mistakes i don't see.

[Anonymous No.2116320]

>>2116110
I already have checked all his books. Loomis don't focus on using ONLY planes to construct the head he usually uses planes + divided ball which fuck me up. I'm trying to use the Reilly Method but it's not as easy for me as the only planes method.

>>2116223
Not a book, I believe. Just a image I found on google.

[Anonymous No.2116321]

>>2116297
>>2116291
>>2116300


You know what a good drawing of a butt/back or whatever else you're drawing looks like, so go do more of it until you can draw what it looks like.

Same with some other people in the beginner thread. Just keep at it, you know what you're aiming at, so keep drawing towards that.

[Anonymous No.2116334]

>>2116321
So i just need to get the mileage in? Alright then.

[Anonymous No.2116338]

>>2116334
good miliage though...look at real pics of butts and bodies...A lot of those you posted are really distorted and some look like you just taped 2 big balls on their butt

[Anonymous No.2116345]

>>2116338
its barely been a month anon, i hope my progress is exponential.

[Anonymous No.2116423]

God, this took 2 hours. Please tell me how to improve.

[Anonymous No.2116441]

>>2116423
I think you are focusing on details rather than the big picture. You are patting your lines a lot. Loosen your strokes a bit, feel more comfortable with the paper/canvas. If you were drawing on paper, I would say draw by moving your arm, not your wrist, but it's harder to do on a tablet. You can try shrinking your canvas so you are forced to take your attention away from the details, or work zoomed out.

[Anonymous No.2116446]

>>2111447
i'm having a hard time fitting everything on the canvas.

[Anonymous No.2116450]

How did i do?
>Any tips or critique?

[Anonymous No.2116455]

>>2116441
I was sketching on MS paint, I wasn't really focusing on make a neat lineart. Anything else?

[Anonymous No.2116459]

>>2116455
like, what about the face itself?

[Anonymous No.2116461]

>>2116446
related

[Anonymous No.2116466]

>>2116455
That anon just gave you a legitimate crit, don't blow it off. It didn't even have to do with lineart necessarily

[Anonymous No.2116485]

Just for fun.

[Anonymous No.2116502]

>>2116153
No, it's finger painting with ink.

[Anonymous No.2116514]

>>2116485
I like the depth, youre definitely not a complete beginner, would look a lot better with better lines of course...

[Anonymous No.2116533]

>>2116514
Thanks man, I'll try to work more on my lines, even in sketches.

[Anonymous No.2116614]

[Anonymous No.2116699]

how did i do /ic/

[Anonymous No.2116702]

i know this is off but what are some tips for rendering skin?

[Anonymous No.2116707]

>>2116699
>13 mins in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayjbpopn5EI

[Anonymous No.2116715]

>>2116446
You don't have to.

[Anonymous No.2116762]

[Anonymous No.2116774]

How do I into rendering? Specifically color selection.

Please ignore the shit anatomy. It was just a quick sketch.

[Anonymous No.2116777]

How do I into rendering? Specifically color selection.

Please ignore the shit anatomy. It was just a quick sketch.

[Anonymous No.2116791]

>>2116777
Another attempt.

I tried to vary the colors a bit and toning down on the muscle definition. I think it looks a bit better, but still shit.

[Anonymous No.2116796]

>>2116791
That's progress and how you learn. Do a few more and you'll be good at it.

[Anonymous No.2116797]

>>2116796
I get that, but I'm here for some specific advice. Just something to show me a direction or something.

[Anonymous No.2116812]

Another one. I still don't understand what I'm doing wrong... aside from the terrible anatomy, obviously.

[Anonymous No.2116813]

>>2116812
I know that feel

[Anonymous No.2116818]

>>2113408
Kek mate 10/10

[Anonymous No.2116822]

>>2114009
You didn't. You picked the best hero.

[Anonymous No.2116830]

>>2116777
I know that i'm in no position to teach yet. But i think it might be useful to you anyway.

I think what you think is a color problem is actually a value problem. Your light should get less bright the further it is from the source. That makes the brightest spot on the forhead and as it goes down the value should get darker. I'm really not sure if what i've tried to paint is clear and i'm sure there are more able people on ic that can explain it further.

[Anonymous No.2116840]

>>2116830
>light should get less bright the further it is from the source.

Do you mean that in a stylistic or a physical sense?

I mean, the light from the sun, for example, doesn't dim due to distance.

Are you saying that I should perhaps accentuate areas of interest (face and chest in your example) with lighter value?

[Anonymous No.2116842]

>>2115695
>>2115690
Hope this helps!

[Anonymous No.2116843]

>>2116840
I searched for the dropbox link of a tutorial i remember that from. Maybe it's a bit more precise
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sq6xg7yu47at5h0/Struggling%20with%20Value%20%28Marek%20Okon%29.zip?dl=1

[Anonymous No.2116845]

>>2116840
Different anon here.

When dealing with light in physics, there's a concept known as the inverse square law. It states that the intensity of light is proportional to the inverse square of the distance to the light source - meaning for all light sources, the intensity decreases as you get further away from the light source.

This is most readily apparent with man-made lights. If you start at 1m away from a light source then move to a distance of 10m, the intensity of light as seen by the observer is now 1/100th of what it was.

When dealing with the sun, 10m, even 1000m isn't enough distance to travel to see a substantial difference in intensity. This is because the sun is approximately 149,600,000,000m away. The intensity of the light when 149,600,000,000m away isn't going to be much different than the intensity when 149,599,000m away.

tldr; If the light source is far enough away, the intensity falloff from moving 10m is negligible.

[Anonymous No.2116847]

Different anon here.

When dealing with light in physics, there's a concept known as the inverse square law. It states that the intensity of light is proportional to the inverse square of the distance to the light source - meaning for all light sources, the intensity decreases as you get further away from the light source.

This is most readily apparent with man-made lights. If you start at 1m away from a light source then move to a distance of 10m, the intensity of light as seen by the observer is now 1/100th of what it was.

When dealing with the sun, 10m, even 1000m isn't enough distance to travel to see a substantial difference in intensity. This is because the sun is approximately 149,600,000,000m away. The intensity of the light when 149,600,000,000m away isn't going to be much different than the intensity when 149,599,999,000m away.

tldr; If the light source is far enough away, the intensity falloff from moving 10m is negligible.

[Anonymous No.2116869]

>>2112481
Wait, are you not supposed to draw ontop of the picture? I just used a copy machine and drew on the picture...

[Anonymous No.2116873]

>>2116869
What do you think the point of that exercise is?

[Anonymous No.2116874]

>>2116873
Getting used to drawing circles, lines and shit.

[Anonymous No.2116876]

>>2116873
never did that but I think it was suppose to break what you think you know about the body and start drawing what you see

[Anonymous No.2116886]

>>2114697
smudgey/10 would not bang.

[Anonymous No.2116898]

>>2116874
Uh-oh.

[Anonymous No.2116910]

>>2116874
The point of the exercise is to learn to draw with the right side of the brain.

There's some pseudo-science involved, but basically the concept is that when beginners draw, they do not draw what they see, but what they think the see.

As a beginner, when you draw an eye, for example, you draw the "symbol" of an eye that your brain has stored. Most of the time that symbol is innacurate, and when you draw it you don't concern yourself with the angle from you're looking at the eye, the basic geometric forms that make up the eye and the shading resulting from these forms.

[Anonymous No.2116913]

>>2116843
I don't know man. I can't get the hang of the whole "local value" concept. I tried lowering the values towards the feet, but it still looks like shit.

Not to mention the pathetic excuse for cloth and the fact that I completely fucked up the construction.

Is this at least somewhat better than my previous three attempts, at least in terms of rendering?

[Anonymous No.2116916]

>>2116345
>exponential
>with base less then 1 tbh
:^)

[Anonymous No.2116934]

>>2116913
There is knowing something and then there is understanding something. You can't hope to understand what you've read by just trying once. You have to try to apply what you read till you understand it.

I would start out By trying out some simpler shapes first. You cant focus on values while also focusing on anatomie, colours etc... Start simple then get more complex once you are comfortable with simple.

Also, you should start with a very narrow value range first and only get more values in later on. You obviously don't have to do that, but it helped me a lot.

[Anonymous No.2116959]

>>2116869
Some people are just really retarded.

[Anonymous No.2116974]

>>2116934
Does this capture the idea more or less?

[Anonymous No.2117001]

>>2116974
It's getting closer. Something else to consider is that your shadows and your lights should stay separated. Your darkest dark in the light should be brighter then your ligthest value in the light. This of course isn't a hard set rule but it is good to remember

[Anonymous No.2117033]

>>2117001
ligthest value in the dark.....sorry

[Anonymous No.2117034]

Fuck me, this took forever figuring out the perspective of things, and even then it's still kind of fucked up.

When do I start 'feeling' the perspective?

[Anonymous No.2117098]

>>2115662
Ok, I did another one. Took me roughly 70 minutes, less time than the symetrical looking one from yesterday.

Does anyone see any mayor or even just small details that I should improve on?
And I also always avoid drawing lips, I can't figure out how to draw them just with lines.

[Anonymous No.2117130]

>>2116614
PI-PIKACHU!

[Anonymous No.2117131]

>>2116842
kEEP PRACTICING! Learn more about faces, go deep into it. :D

[Anonymous No.2117213]

so ive been drawing just in sketch pads for a while now and i want to try my hand at digital art.what graphics/drawing tablet should i get for my computer? also what program do i need? i want to get into digital art but have no idea about any of it

[Anonymous No.2117235]

I'm currently going through the vilppu drawing manual and I have no idea what I am doing, any advice other than practice more since that is already a given ? Pic related is some of the practice things I did.

[Anonymous No.2117257]

This was an actual attempt at a human face

>>2117235
Those are some nice brush strokes how did you get them so smooth?

[Anonymous No.2117275]

>>2117257

I use art rage 3, it came with the tablet and works fine for me in turns of drawing, I will probably get 4. Paint tool sai is good too. You can try that.

[Anonymous No.2117352]

>>2117098
Here is another one I just drew, not sure about the length of the legs. I didn't tought drawing naked figures would be so much fun.

[Anonymous No.2117369]

>>2117368
>>2117368
>>2117368

NEW THREAD

[Anonymous No.2118741]

>>2116320
I think Bridgman has some decent approach. Then again I'm shit at faces so take it with a grain of salt.