Animation General: Part Deux

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Animation General: Part Deux Anonymous Fri Jun 5 10:29:26 2015 No.2111105 [Reply] [Original]

Previous Thread: >>2099992

I'm gonna try to keep this general alive, anyone have suggestions for the OP post copy?

Anonymous Fri Jun 5 10:51:43 2015 No.2111117
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my current wip. Trying to animate a front walk.

Having some trouble with timing, and PS clunky interface for their animation tool doesn't help. Anyone know a way to insert frames into a video layer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 11:22:07 2015 No.2111145 File: 16 KB, 300x180, Bouncy square gets brutally murdered.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Welp, i posted in the previous thread by accident.

Anonymous Fri Jun 5 12:34:49 2015 No.2111180

>>2111105
this isn't much of an animation, more of a slide show, need to add some inbetweens, seems alright so far dough
>>2111117
well your drawing is having an amobea affect to where it seems to be changing its volume when it moves. Also the frames are too evenly spaced, some seperation would make it more interesting to look at.
>>2111145
preddy good
solid 8/10

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 13:16:34 2015 No.2111215 >>2111180 Aye, thanks. I'll post more of me easytoon stuff soon if ya don't mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 13:42:44 2015 No.2111235 >>2111215 Aight, done uploading this Easytoon stuff to imgur gallery thingy http://m.imgur.com/Bpx2wHi,kfPmwWw,bIesK5P,SjFZID7 any comments?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 17:11:39 2015 No.2111450 >>2111180 >this isn't much of an animation It is a great animation. Don't add inbetweeens OP, it's a trap

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 19:47:28 2015 No.2111628 >>2111180 >Also the frames are too evenly spaced, some separation would make it more interesting to look at What do you mean by that? Would you also know how to insert frames into a timeline in PS?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 22:16:53 2015 No.2111775 >>2111628 In reality our actions don't start out even and don't carry through evenly. When I go to, say, punch something, it starts up slow, builds up speed , and slows down when I hit or miss. The frames of that animation would be spaced differently.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 23:12:10 2015 No.2111856 File: 236 KB, 525x600, anim_6_05.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2111775 I think I fixed it somewhat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 23:30:18 2015 No.2111878 >>2111856 You've never animated before have you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 23:33:20 2015 No.2111883 >>2111878 It'd be more helpful if you pointed out what can be improved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 23:38:31 2015 No.2111885 >>2111856 this is burning my eyes

Anonymous Fri Jun 5 23:42:10 2015 No.2111890

>>2111883
No, serious question. Your first thing was wrong in every way, and this has none of the body movements of an actual walk. If you're new, start from a pendulum so you understand timing and spacing, then the bouncing ball, then a walk in profile. On the bright side, you can draw, which will make all this come MUCH faster to you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 23:52:28 2015 No.2111902 >>2111890 I hear you, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 23:52:52 2015 No.2111903 >>2111856 wtf tbh lads...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 00:58:33 2015 No.2111959 >>2111856 Way too much hip sway unless she is dancing or something but even then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 05:22:07 2015 No.2112097 File: 343 KB, 875x745, plaindollGIF.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2nd time animating something, how'd i do

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 05:32:40 2015 No.2112101 >>2112097 Very nice. Only minor problems as far as I can see, like the neck muscle and her hair in the back keep shifting around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 05:55:58 2015 No.2112107 >>2112097 >2nd time animating Unless you rotoscoped that gif I don't believe you. That or you're a genius. If you're a genius anon I look forward to your next post, if this is your 2nd gif your 3rd is gonna be good enough to pay money for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 06:13:02 2015 No.2112115 >>2111180 >this isn't much of an animation, more of a slide show, need to add some inbetweens, seems alright so far dough That ain't how it do. Inbetweens are just the icing on a cake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 06:23:07 2015 No.2112117 >>2112107 >its rotoscoped.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 13:37:56 2015 No.2112399 File: 7 KB, 250x141, timing.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2112107 >>2112117 didn't rotoscope, just came across pic related and thought "huh, i could do that"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 13:50:27 2015 No.2112403 >>2112399 What do you use to animate anon, obviously not flash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 13:54:00 2015 No.2112409 Is rotoscoping just what you call tracing when it's an animation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 14:01:08 2015 No.2112418 >>2112403 used firealpaca (i'm on a macbook) to draw the frames, then used an online gifmaker

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 14:17:41 2015 No.2112433 >>2112409 yeah. tracing a video. It's not the same thing as referencing a video which some people for some reason think is the case.

Anonymous Sat Jun 6 17:03:46 2015 No.2112558

>>2112399
Then you are a genius. Or at least smarter than 90% of the plebs I go to animation school with. Took them 3-4 tries to understand ease ins and outs even then most are to lazy to fully in between anything so it looks halfway decent. None of them are going to make it. I start the animation track in the fall... hope there's someone in my cohort that's actually gonna apply themselves...

So great job.

Yes rotoscoping is tracing. Referencing video is not frowned upon and is highly recommended so is using normal photo reference and acting stuff out yourself, using a stop watch to help figure out timings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 17:05:59 2015 No.2112560 Anyone know how i can simulate tvpaint's pen lines in photoshop?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 17:10:07 2015 No.2112563 >>2112560 you mean the "penbrush" default? Isn't it literally just a hard round brush?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 17:15:10 2015 No.2112568 File: 91 KB, 891x801, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2112418 Nigga you a prodigy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 17:24:09 2015 No.2112573 >>2112097 >2nd time animating You mean 2nd time you animated something you thought was worth keeping. I know that feel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 17:28:19 2015 No.2112577 >>2112097 where the fuck is her ear

Anonymous Sat Jun 6 18:32:48 2015 No.2112635
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>>2112558
Thanks, I wish you luck in your animation endeavors.

>>2112568
thanks

>>2112573
No, I mean legit the 2nd time animating something. My first was pic related in my deviantart days back in 2011.

>>2112577
It's a doll, I ain't got time for that shit (but you're right, I was lazy)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 18:51:38 2015 No.2112644 >>2112635 You've motivated me to give it a shot. Why should you take all the praise? What programs did ya use?

Anonymous Sat Jun 6 19:01:03 2015 No.2112653

Just starting out. What are good tools I should have? I just graduated with an Architecutre BA so I know how to use programs and draw, thankfully. Just a tad late to the animators party.

I've used light tables and always thought how they'd come in handy for animation. Does anyone use and can vouch? I'll probably still end up buying one off craigslist.

Also, just like >>2112644 says, I need to know what main programs animators use. Like the main programs I usually use in architecture studio are Rhino, Autocad, Illustrator, etc. I'm looking for a list of programs that are usually open when an animator is working.

Will post work here. Parents gave me the OK to switch professions, so I'm pretty hyped.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 19:05:02 2015 No.2112656 >>2112653 Tvpaint and toonboom are the beset animation programs.

Anonymous Sat Jun 6 19:11:14 2015 No.2112663

>>2112644
I don't have any animating programs, I just use what I have;; firealpaca (like paint tool sai for mac) for the frames, and an online gifmaker to stitch them together. You're better off asking other people what they use, because I have no idea.

Additionally, knowing how to draw in general helps. One could be an animating master but if their art looks like shit it won't be very good. Just in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 19:12:42 2015 No.2112664 >>2111105 >I'm gonna try to keep this general alive, anyone have suggestions for the OP post copy? I know it's gonna need the pdf that Anon mentions here: >>2100157

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 19:14:29 2015 No.2112668 >>2112664 it can be found on the fellowbro's book list linked at draw threads

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 19:16:59 2015 No.2112673 >>2112668 I know; I'm saying it should be included in our OP post, as well.

Anonymous Sat Jun 6 19:47:46 2015 No.2112700

>>2112653
Light tables are the shit, I built my own ghetto setup using a glass office desk with a sliding drawer for a keyboard underneath. Put the lights on that and boom, instant light table.

Also, side note, I feel bad that you had to ask your parents permission to "change careers". Must be a rough life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:13:01 2015 No.2112723 >>2112700 I've decided on getting used to a tablet first. And yeah, it's kind of stressful. I've only recently learned how to think for myself. Late bloomer, lol.

Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:20:25 2015 No.2112732

>>2111105
Link with downloads for some basic animation texts, includes:

Animators Survival Kit, Cartoon Animation, Advanced Animation, Drawn to Life volumes 1 & 2.

Just started uploading so not all files will be present if you follow the link. But they will be soon.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!3p8CwQZD!DR2mC-kw0TyQQ8Uw3T6JYg

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:28:10 2015 No.2112740 File: 33 KB, 240x135, sandwwwwhalf.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tried.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:36:23 2015 No.2112745 Any recommended learning material for studying cinematography?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:37:33 2015 No.2112746 >>2112745 I guess the answer would be storyboarding

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:39:30 2015 No.2112747 File: 143 KB, 720x480, walkCyclePencilTest2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:41:37 2015 No.2112748 File: 148 KB, 720x480, walkCyclePencilTest3.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2112747 fucked it all up when I added a body. too much leaning forward. gotta go back and fix it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:46:49 2015 No.2112751 >>2112745 Study composition in general.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:50:07 2015 No.2112754 >>2112748 The head pretty much stays in place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 20:58:31 2015 No.2112760 If animation is so cool, how come Egoraptor doesn't do it anymore? 2d is dead in the west.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 21:04:59 2015 No.2112763 >>2112760 Egoraptor is getting his life energy sucked out by that vampiress he calls his woman

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 21:05:33 2015 No.2112764 >>2112754 Yeah, I need to loosen that neck up a bit, also seeing the ribcage keeps changing size as well. Thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 21:05:37 2015 No.2112765 >>2112760 Because he'd rather beat his ugly girlfriend

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 21:25:06 2015 No.2112774 >>2112760 if you want to be a jewish money grubber you're in the wrong profession

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 21:34:57 2015 No.2112779 >>2112774 You are correct

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 21:57:45 2015 No.2112799 >>2112760 He still does it supposedly, he just doesn't finish anything anymore. He talks about it in that big April Fools blog, that he just animates for himself now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 22:58:44 2015 No.2112841 >>2112799 Did that guy make any original animations not based off others characters. Every video someones linked has always been based on a video game or show. I personally would find that creativly draining.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 23:01:46 2015 No.2112844 >>2112740 cool blog?

Anonymous Sat Jun 6 23:04:43 2015 No.2112846

>>2112841
He called it 'playing the game,'.. and it did bring him success. But yeah, I guess he's through with it. He talked a lot about how he drew stuff that many people would like to start a following first but it doesn't sound very convincing, seeing as how he doesn't produce anything at all now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 23:04:52 2015 No.2112847 >>2112841 Yeah, Mr. Literal, and one other fucked up one called eighteen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 23:38:09 2015 No.2112865 >>2112841 Girlchan in Paradise? Or whatever it was called. Though considering it was supposed to be just a parody of anime I don't know how original it would be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 6 23:39:43 2015 No.2112869 >>2112774 Become real estate

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 00:21:16 2015 No.2112900 File: 1020 KB, 500x274, Upupupu.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2111856 jeepers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 00:57:04 2015 No.2112924 File: 1.97 MB, 450x698, tumblr_npe06jlSuN1r7lkclo1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are some good puppet rigging animation programs, /ag/? Do what this anon said >>2112656 can do, puppet rigging? >pic related of what I wanna achieve

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 00:59:33 2015 No.2112926 >>2112924 Flash is the best for that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:02:34 2015 No.2112927 >>2112924 I think After Effects and Flash can do it. Most 3D modeling programs can maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:05:16 2015 No.2112929 >>2112926 >>2112927 Hmm, I'm a little reluctant about flash but thanks, I'll look into it. Especially AE

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:06:46 2015 No.2112930 File: 6 KB, 600x338, anim_6_06.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2112900 Why are so many anon's afraid to try?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:31:26 2015 No.2112946 >>2112924 That's not puppet animation, that's where they draw a full picture and then deform it to make it move; close but not the same. You can do that with Esoteric Spine and After Effects, but not Flash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:36:13 2015 No.2112952 are there ways to animate more dynamically? Or does it all just come through experience? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcByqfzrCYw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:37:18 2015 No.2112953 File: 990 KB, 500x499, sippy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I recently dug up this old one from a few years back. It's special in that I still like it somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:38:18 2015 No.2112954 File: 491 KB, 1200x2080, walk on 10s.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Flash is shit I don't get how Bahi can put up with this unless he has some one else doing the line clean up. Need Retas or an actually good Toon Boom tut.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:40:04 2015 No.2112955 >>2112954 In surprised there's no plugins to fix Flash's SHIT brush. The fact that flash has had the same fucking brush for a decade is absolutely insulting regardless.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:54:36 2015 No.2112972
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>>2112953
What music do you guys animate to? I'm listening to "funk/soul/disco" track on spotify so mostly music like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRX-8SXOs&list=FL3t93CzJNoFuyQQm5EkUAtA&index=4
while I try animating this nightmare again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 01:58:26 2015 No.2112978 >>2112972 Mainly Konami's composer's stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pokM7jU5So

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 02:20:34 2015 No.2112987 >>2112972 Soundcloud hiphop instrumentals. The beat helps me work on a good tempo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 02:24:51 2015 No.2112988 File: 141 KB, 1319x577, music02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2112972 >>2112978 >>2112987 Did you even read the Chapter 1 of the Animators Survival Kit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 02:28:50 2015 No.2112990 >>2112988 Yes I did actually. I only use the music when the thinking process is pretty much over, and I'm just finalizing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 02:31:11 2015 No.2112991 What are some good animation forums?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 02:37:52 2015 No.2112994 >>2112988 not listening to music is just one way to animate. just because milt kahl didn't listen to music because he was busy concentrating doesnt mean that everyone has or should adopt that workflow. not everyone has the same animating process.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 02:40:33 2015 No.2112995

>>2112978
I can respect that.
>>2112987
this too. I mostly like lyric free music since they aren't as distracting but songs with somber verse like with that nina simon are good too.
>>2112988
hahahaha Yeah I did. I know what milt kahl says but It's near impossible for the brave heart soundtrack to distract me so much that it will effect my animation.

>>2112991
cartoon brew, animation mentor, and 24 second club are the communities that I hang out in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 03:04:47 2015 No.2113004 >>2112991 Hyunsdojo is were im mostly at. Lots of stickfigure animators tho.... so your gonna have to work around em...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 03:19:59 2015 No.2113010 File: 103 KB, 384x313, IDontKnow_zps6eca6db7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do you guys complain so much about flash's brush when you can't draw for shit anyways? A line tool ain't gonna help you.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 03:29:17 2015 No.2113015

>>2113010
I don't mind the brush, but goddamn, I wish the gaps would just close consistently, so I could just fill shit, and be done with it...

Toon boom is better, because the stroke editor, but it's still a pain, sometimes, and you almost have to have a goddamn $300 graphics card to render the damn stroke editor in real time...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 03:43:40 2015 No.2113027 Hi anons, I have a drm free copy of tvp... would anyone be interested in having it for dl? Will set up something when I get home from work if so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 03:47:55 2015 No.2113029 File: 893 KB, 1920x1080, 3Lewd5Me.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] eheh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 03:54:35 2015 No.2113033 >>2113027 >drm free You mean pirated?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 03:56:59 2015 No.2113035 >>2113029 stiff movements/10

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 04:05:47 2015 No.2113040 >>2113029 Need more secondary motion and follow through, brah.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 04:21:29 2015 No.2113047 >>2113033 Yes cpt obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 04:32:50 2015 No.2113052 File: 633 KB, 233x468, 9e3fe700a99db69272073e711a9063cd.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2113027 Link us anon. Also I know minus8 uses tween an stuff for his loops but god damn, how does it look so good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 06:39:26 2015 No.2113100 >>2113052 Just got home from work... here ya'll go https://mega.co.nz/#!TpFUkRwA!ywgKir8TsTViVmG-VIRNvXVV0EaclBCUw9U-i2MNJT4 Happy animating!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 07:45:43 2015 No.2113120 >>2113100 >.exe Do you have a mac version too? I have hunted the web for months looking for a mac tvp but literally no one has uploaded one anywhere. I think I'll just have hurt my wallet and buy it for £950... ouch. Or buy a pc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 08:57:14 2015 No.2113166 >>2113052 Overlapping actions. All the limbs are not moving at the same speed at the same time. Also he's starting the movement at the hips and all the movement is following it's own arc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 09:58:42 2015 No.2113202 >>2113100 thank you based anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 12:57:41 2015 No.2113351 >>2113100 It works.....just hope no viruses were attached. But thanks anyways anon

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 13:19:00 2015 No.2113365 >>2111105 /whew I always had trouble drawing and inbetweening Knees properly, but am relieved to see that none of you can draw a tucking knee either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 13:20:23 2015 No.2113367 >>2113365 is that really something to be happy about?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 13:24:27 2015 No.2113369 >>2111105 i wanna put a storyboard together with music and shit, what program should i use >>2112745 http://everyframeapainting.tumblr.com/post/100600898586/movie-recommendations

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 13:35:03 2015 No.2113381 >>2113369 You're not gonna make it, bro.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 13:55:18 2015 No.2113396

>>2113029
bla bla typical talk of Secondary Motion, followthrough vocab terms etc, but try to just think about it logically. The jelly tits should be moving down as the body starts to move up. They're tugged around by the torso. They should not be leading the Motion.

Try some straight ahead. In the zone you have no choice but to consider causality and physics. Move a leg a little, and then logically figure out what kind of tension it places on other parts of the body, and push/pull those parts logically. If the character seems off balance, let them fall and see what happens. Draw larger/smaller spaces as things accelerate/decelerate. Don't try to make a movie or do anything intentional, just throw around a "dummy" and explore physics. Be a simulator for science.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 13:56:36 2015 No.2113397

>>2113369
Well I would just draw the storyboard on some templet in whatever art program your most comfortable with. Then save each frame individually then compile and sync in Adobe premier pro or flash if you can handle the shit smoothing. Usually I just voice act something egorapter tier then key frame it. Storyboards or only good if you got people and budget to manage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 14:33:43 2015 No.2113428 >>2112954 >sakuga/disney what it's "full frame" and "limited" for fuck sake, and "sakuga" doesn't even mean full frame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 14:50:50 2015 No.2113439 File: 1.29 MB, 500x231, tumblr_nnqq5oSzlM1r3rdh2o2_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2113428 Are you retarded? maybe you're right, but disney/sakuga is a lot easier to understand. No one cares about your faggot technical terms you autist.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 14:53:02 2015 No.2113441

>>2113439
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>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 14:58:59 2015 No.2113443 File: 896 KB, 331x380, 1408655344618.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2113439

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:04:18 2015 No.2113445 >>2112930 you're not very amusing, are you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:11:47 2015 No.2113452 >>2113439 but you're saying that "sakuga" is the same as full frame animation which is most definitely not the case.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:29:14 2015 No.2113474 >>2113120 Sadly no mac version, my apologies macanon, I cannot help you. There is hope however, get bootcamp or a similar emulator of windows for Mac and you should be ok. It will be much easier than buying a pc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:35:02 2015 No.2113480 File: 46 KB, 418x381, 1432977137525.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2113120 >he has a mac

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:38:43 2015 No.2113482 >>2113120 If you are so poor, you shouldn't have bought an overpriced computer in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:46:11 2015 No.2113489 File: 273 KB, 267x403, final2D_3.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:47:43 2015 No.2113491 >>2113489 I fucked up the leg.... you can't really tell it's bouncing just looks like shit. Also rushed the end with to few frames in too little time, and that hand wave looks just bad. Anything else?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 15:53:29 2015 No.2113495 >>2113491 Too energetic. His head is rocked like he's driving over a bump.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 16:00:09 2015 No.2113500

>>2113491
Spacing and timing are things that you'll just get over time if you practice daily just do loops. My problem is that I don't space enough every time I look at my Gurren Laggan design works I'm impressed how they get that classic dynamic gainaxy flare. You just got go big then ease in. Also in most animes they mainly do holds and waist up movements aka lip sync heads and arms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 16:00:54 2015 No.2113501 >>2113491 Hope this helps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1cHAzKta9w

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 16:04:28 2015 No.2113507

>>2113500
>daily loops
Thanks, I was actually gonna try to start doing stuff like that but wasn't sure if it was a good idea instead of working on something longer. Also I do have serious issues with ease ins and outs, I don't give them enough time or frames even when I feel like I have. Moving holds are something I still can't get right.

>>2113495
Thanks, yea the end of it is way to fast and way to over the top. I'm trying to decide if I will go back to this soon (as in today) or do some other stuff and then go back and fix everything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 16:07:12 2015 No.2113509 >>2113381 post ur werk faget >>2113397 thank you! are the only programs there are to use? I already have the boards, I'm just not sure how to make them into an animatic. /g/ seemed a bad place to ask.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 16:08:21 2015 No.2113512 >>2113501 This is super helpful, thank you. Be back later with a loop of some sort. Probably a fixed version of the flight loop I posted in the last thread.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 16:25:34 2015 No.2113529

>>2113509
Sony Vegas is a solid choice and there's always windows movie maker I remember doing my first animations in ms paint and moviemaker in middle school. It's shit but it works. Other than that I only know of this one animatic software you'll have to google around for it though. Also you could do it in photoshop by putting the frames in the ps time line then export it as a video.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 16:56:34 2015 No.2113556 Why is it so difficult to draw in Paint? It can't be just my touchpad alone, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 17:00:22 2015 No.2113562 >>2113029 at least it's colored and shaded

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 20:13:36 2015 No.2113734

>>2113369
>studying Star Wars for editing
What a disaster.
>>2112954
Someone else is doing the clean up. Also, what is your gif supposed to illustrate, and why are the feet on your 2s sliding?
>>2112740
It's kind of hard to tell what the first character is doing with the cards. Moving them up before down, and changing the angle of them from facing her body to something more parallel to the table might help it read better. Looks pretty good overall though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 20:27:33 2015 No.2113744 >>2113734 >What a disaster. Uh, are you kidding? Star Wars has probably the best editing of all time. They managed to fix all the horrible writing and directing choices in post production, turning a forgettable B-movie into a masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 20:49:51 2015 No.2113756 >>2113734 Because all I did was edit the leg line after the passing position from the previous frames. Just moved them over which is lazy I know but I was only looking at the leg spacing differences.

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 21:23:18 2015 No.2113770
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>>2113744
Paul Hirsch did a great job, but it's still well cut shit in my opinion. I think it would be a better use of time studying something that didn't need to be chopped to hell and back to be cohesive.
>>2113756
ok. Oh, and for reference most animu walks are on 3s.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 23:18:50 2015 No.2113841 File: 10 KB, 600x338, anim_6_07c.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] having trouble, conveying the impact.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 23:22:30 2015 No.2113844 >>2113841 Try shatter out when it lands instead of just crumbling

Anonymous Sun Jun 7 23:35:15 2015 No.2113855

>>2113841
Think of a case hitting the ground.
Do pieces bounce?
Not really.
Does it just crumble?
Obviously not.

What the pieces do actually do, though, is shoot across the floor a short distance at high speed, decelerating fairly rapidly, before coming to a halt, at around the same time. Some pieces would go further than others, in roughly the same amount of frames.

That's assuming a fairly smooth surface, such as kitchen linoleum. Pieces on carpet would likely have more of a short bounce, followed by one more very short bounce, with less distance traveled outward.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 7 23:37:44 2015 No.2113859 >>2113855 Oh, and a very small chip, or two flying quickly through the air and out of frame might help convey impact force.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 01:05:19 2015 No.2113912 >>2113841 Have it bounce slightly up then fall on its side.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 04:15:31 2015 No.2114002

>>2113841
Too many frames occur during the impact. An animator once said that to show intense impact you never show the actual frame where the objects connect, you show before and after and let the viewer imagine it. I think it's in animators survival kit but might be wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 07:30:54 2015 No.2114083 File: 19 KB, 320x200, lloooas.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2112844 don't have one yet >>2113734 I also have no idea what the characters were doing here since I was still testing the program. I see what you mean though.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 08:28:18 2015 No.2114138

>be me, the guy who drew wasps (and other stuff) in the last thread

>11th grade is ending, we're learning about romanticism is music
>the teacher tells us that we're allowed to do an animation with a romanticist music track in the background instead of the listening test
>I could get the highest grade on the listening test, but I decide to do an animation instead, because it would push me out of my comfort zone and might be fun
>I'm the only one who decided to do animation
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miypJ2xxJy8
>teacher got mad as fuck today, complained that it's only 30 seconds, threatened to half my grade if I don't animate the whole music track (1 minute 30 seconds) by the end of the term
>"If you only animate half the music, that's like answering only half the listening test"
>"O-okay, I understand"
>I have until tomorrow night to animate one more minute or I will either fail music or get the lowest grade possible without failing
>it took me least three days to animate the 30 seconds part
>cried in the school lavatory for half an hour, came home and cried again

I'm sorry for this /b/-tier greentext, but I'm a very gentle soul and wanted to get this out of my system. If you're going to give a creative task, the least you could do is understand the effort that goes into it. I mean, it wasn't THAT much effort, but still a lot more than listening and remembering some songs and their authors.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 09:58:08 2015 No.2114222

>>2114138
I hate say this but your teacher is in the right here. You had two options, you took the more difficult option and didn't finish your work. Nobody forced you to pick the animation task. You misjudged and it backfired.

Sure, your teacher probably has no idea how much effort goes in to animating, or maybe he does, I don't know him, but you yourself knew how much hard work it takes and you should have been able to judge the situation properly.

Now, learn from your japanese animus and finish the animation, no matter how half assed the result is, fucking stills and repeated frames and whatnots. who knows, maybe he wont crucify you if you do that.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:15:20 2015 No.2114230

>>2114222
No his teacher isn't 'in the right'. His teacher is a certifiable retard who obviously has no idea how much work goes into animation. What a fucking cunt, what if bee bro took on a longer song? He has to animate the whole fucking thing to earn the same grade as some other retard doing a fraction of a fraction of the work? This teacher should be ashamed of himself. WE LOVE YOU BEE BRO DON'T EVER LEAVE US BEE BRO

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:23:42 2015 No.2114234

>>2111105
Anyone know of any easy to use 3d animation programs? I want to focus solely on the animation aspect, to get a feeling of how to make dynamic animations. Given how 3d animation is considerably faster than simply drawing every frame, I feel it would be a very good learning tool.
I've been playing around with MMD and MMM a bit, but they're very cumbersome to work with.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:26:02 2015 No.2114238

>>2114230
Nobody was forced into taking up the challenge.
The options were literally
>A: do the basic thing that is commonly required to pass this class
or
>B: do this super hard assignment if you want
How is the teacher to be blamed for someone trying to be a special snowflake and then not being able to deliver?

>what if bee bro took on a longer song?
Then he would be stupid for doing so. Quite simple.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:32:37 2015 No.2114244

>>2114238
You do have a point. The thing is, the fact that I had to animate the whole song came as a surprise to me. She didn't mention anything about that before today. But fuck it, I won't go to sleep if I can't get at least 30 seconds animated today.

>>2114234
I can't say how simple Maya is to use, but you can download pre-rigged things and animate them there.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:46:47 2015 No.2114257

>>2114238
Yeah, nah. The teacher is shit with ridiculous expectations, go fuck yourself cunt, you obviously don't know shit about animation either you stupid fuckboy. Bee Bro made a charming, hand drawn animation with a clear beginning, middle and end set to the required song. Even at 30 seconds, hell, even at FIVE FUCKING SECONDS the effort expended to do an animation would be many, many times that of "HURR listen to these songs and remember who wrote them DURR", stupid fuck. The retarded faggot cunt teacher being this obstinate about Bee Bro animating every single second of this song is simply fucking unfair and him bullying Bee Bro is bullshit. If he was going to be this big of a fucking queer faggot about it he simply shouldn't have even offered the option; there was no way for Bee Bro to know beforehand that he was setting himself up to a guaranteed fail of an entire class because the faggot teacher doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. He's bullying Bee Bro plain and simple.

Bee Bro your teacher isn't in the right but because the stupid faggot is in charge you're going to have to do something. You should have the Bee sitting on a reed swaying in the breeze for 50 seconds or something, you're probably not going to get as many points as your classmates if the fucking retard teacher isn't entertained from beginning, middle or end though. What a fucking terrible situation he put you in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q19QNBkh0Y

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:48:43 2015 No.2114258 >>2114257 you'll never get to fuck his boypussy no matter how hard you kiss his ass, mate.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:50:36 2015 No.2114263

>>2114244
>she

That explains it. Fucking women are absolutely retarded when it comes to this sort of thing.

>I won't go to sleep if I can't get at least 30 seconds animated today.

Professional animators in studios are expected to get like 30-40 seconds of animation done in a WEEK at their full-time position. Your teacher is a MORON.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 10:52:25 2015 No.2114264 >>2114258 Eat shit you fat saucer tits faggot fuckboy low test beta cuck queer

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:33:02 2015 No.2114337
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>>2114258
I'm still mad nigga don't think this shit is over, this dumb ass teacher must be smokin' some clover.

My boy Bee Bro hasn't done a damn thing wrong, his whack ass teacher should suck my 3 inch dong, we know this Bee nigga hard yeah this Bee nigga strong, that's why I'm comin' at you'll niggas with this immaculate song.

How can a teacher have such crazy expectations? Dropping bombs on young niggas with no reservations? If you give your students a choice then you should make it fair, got a Bee nigga pullin' out his pollen-speckled hair.

It clearly ain't the same as "answering half the test", this stupid ho should know this nigga doin' his best. Drawing pictures set to music by hand isn't easy, and to deride and threaten kids like that is fuckin' sleazy. It's the teacher's fault alone for not explaining the project, you can tell this bitch is some liberal arts major reject. She's pushin' him around when it's really her failure, and I'm sure if you've read this far you've found that I've nailed her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 12:53:22 2015 No.2114352 File: 555 KB, 1080x720, frame13,11.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2114337 I dindu nuthin, nigga. It's hard to be extremely sad after reading this text. T-thanks.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 13:01:21 2015 No.2114360
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>>2114352
Don't worry fam, even if you bomb 11th grade because of this ignorant ass chicken head ain't no one gonna be saying shit when you're the next big nigga on the independent animation scene. Just BEE URSELF, G.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 14:58:31 2015 No.2114506 >>2112991 You're already on the best one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:09:32 2015 No.2114517 >>2114337 mad respect

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:47:10 2015 No.2114602 >>2114506 No....just...no

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:49:50 2015 No.2114606 >>2114602 tell me a better one, then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 18:09:09 2015 No.2114719 >>2114602 The fuck you doing in my hood, then, nigga?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 20:21:42 2015 No.2114836 File: 14 KB, 750x422, anim_6_08.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2113844 >>2113855 >>2113859 >>2113912 >>2114002 All this advice helped, some what improvement over >>2113841, ty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 20:24:39 2015 No.2114840 >>2111105 I like OP's gif :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 20:26:00 2015 No.2114842 >>2114836 I expected more pieces of the box to fly out. Also, the two pieces in the background shouldn't bounce, they should go in a straight patch similar to the two pieces in the foreground.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 20:31:16 2015 No.2114845 >>2114842 I kept the number of pieces small to cut down on secondary motions, even those were a pain. The piece only bounced after hitting the wall.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 20:37:10 2015 No.2114851 >>2114234 Maya. It's not the easiest, but it's the industry standard, and it's free. >Given how 3d animation is considerably faster lol you think that now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 20:42:29 2015 No.2114856 >>2114234 I mean it's easier if you don't know how to draw...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 20:59:54 2015 No.2114860 >>2114856 Or if you remember you have to polish your 2D animation. >>2114851 How is it even a question of whether it's easier or not? In terms of just the animation, it's simple puppetry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 21:04:48 2015 No.2114861 File: 424 KB, 320x240, cg5l3fioveuikslj5ywt0thewjkn.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My second try at animation, is it decent ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 21:14:30 2015 No.2114869 >>2114861 lmao

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 21:17:49 2015 No.2114872

>>2114860
He said faster, not easier. CG is faster at first because it's a puppet, but once you get the basic animation in, there's all the tedious graph editing for every joint of every finger, and you can't just pass it off to a cleanup artist. Ultimately it's about the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 21:23:39 2015 No.2114875 >>2114861 It's not completely awful, longer than 3 seconds, and you actually finished it, so you're ahead of the curve, already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 21:30:12 2015 No.2114883 >>2113100 I pray your future endeavors will be fruitful, glorious anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 21:31:24 2015 No.2114884 >>2114875 well alrighty then, that's good to know

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 22:31:09 2015 No.2114941 >>2114836 looks much better in my opinion. nice job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:05:42 2015 No.2114982 >>2112765 Why do people hate Suzy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:16:02 2015 No.2114991 >>2114982 She's pretty ayy lmao looking, and she's gotten fat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 03:11:49 2015 No.2115257 >>2114991 Is that it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 17:19:13 2015 No.2116029 File: 108 KB, 791x561, flightLoopRoughgif.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just roughs, need to do a lot of clean up and add like 3-4 more frames at least.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 17:24:31 2015 No.2116037 >>2112763 She turned him into an SJW too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 17:30:14 2015 No.2116042 File: 1.15 MB, 999x777, fighting buddies.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this took me a couple of hours. im super new too animation and just learned that less frames sometimes looks more fluid and better than MORe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 17:36:43 2015 No.2116048 >>2116042 >less frames sometimes looks more fluid More frames always look more fluid. Properly spacing them is what troubles most people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 18:31:23 2015 No.2116114 >>2114138 Jesus man, I'm really sorry to hear about that. Your teacher is a complete fucking idiot. Good luck on finishing your assignment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 18:37:53 2015 No.2116121 >>2116042 Looks pretty nice. You got a blog or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 22:26:48 2015 No.2116381 File: 95 KB, 750x500, anim_6_09.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did a head turn. drawing on model is suffering, even with ctrl-v.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 02:25:49 2015 No.2116667 >>2116381 How long is her fucking neck?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 04:58:39 2015 No.2116768 File: 390 KB, 1920x1080, pool's open.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] took forever

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 05:15:09 2015 No.2116779 >>2116768 holy shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 07:36:53 2015 No.2116850 >>2116667 It's just a exercise...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 07:40:16 2015 No.2116852 File: 2.93 MB, 720x539, 2dd8fd6cc371525857daad84da2eff8b.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone tell me what this type of animation is. Is it simply very well done puppet rigging? Or is it something else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 07:46:25 2015 No.2116855 >>2111856 why is the head moving too? And why is the head moving really slowly?? Unless this is supposed to be some sort of creepy rag doll it really isn't great though. Keep at it though

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 07:50:07 2015 No.2116858

>>2112747
loved this. Always love seeing pencil tests

>>2112748
The body really let you down in this one. Posture should remain more or less straight for a standard walk cycle, also the head should also stay straight. You've definitely got the arms and legs alright though, post results when you fix it up, would love to see more

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 07:54:36 2015 No.2116859

>>2112930
ball size and shape is changing too much, makes it really difficult to actually follow. Your timing however seems okay, just work on the consistency of your drawing. Richard Williams had an inbetweener on a TV show one time and the TV show had a specific style were the eyes were oval. Williams drew all the key frames of his scene with the oval eyes but the inbetweener hated the style of the TV show and when doing all the inbetweens he drew the eyes circular. Incidentally, the scene looked wrong and the eyes were changing every frame and it just looked wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 07:57:58 2015 No.2116863 >>2112988 Clearly they are complete geniuses and we will be seeing them strive in the industry

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 08:02:06 2015 No.2116866 >>2113770 right arm seems to stop a little unnaturally. Try swinging it back a bit more, seems a bit robotic almost like it's going back and bouncing against something

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 08:09:23 2015 No.2116871

>>2113841
A good thing to do would be to take the frame when the object first touches the ground and scrap it, take it out. Page 93 of The Animators survival kit they show a test Ken Harris did for a coyote being fired into a wall. And they showed 7 frames (including a frame of the coyote's head making contact with the wall) and then after they showed 6 frames where they scrapped the second last frame and it made the sequence a lot more powerful and dynamic. Basically the action can be implied instead of explicitly shown, just like a smashing object

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 08:13:35 2015 No.2116875 >>2114234 Maya and possibly Soft Image too. Soft Image is great for character animation specifically and both software are really similar because they're both Autodesk so they go hand in hand

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 08:27:36 2015 No.2116887

>>2114851
>>2114856
There's genuinely no doubt in my mind that it's faster and easier, based on both common sense and experience. I'm not talking about the rendering process and making it look good, but the raw animation itself.
I don't intend to work with 3d animation, but I think it's a great way to learn. If you draw something, it's difficult to get a sense of timing, especially with more complex characters. Redrawing takes a lot of time. In 3d, you simply move the thing around like a doll, play with timing, and correct as necessary.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:00:55 2015 No.2116938
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>>2116887
>>2114234

Use Maya, you get it for free with an educational license.

>faster
3D animators at the big studios don't go any faster than 2D animators in the past, in fact often slower. This is because in 3D you have to polish to a higher level or it looks bad (no cleanup dept. as well). Rough 3D animation looks like ass. You also animate on ones all the time, meaning you're animating double the frames a lot of the time.

>easier
Now this has validity to it since it doesn't require drawing skills. Arguably, in raw animation skills, 3D requires at least as much or more (everything is on ones and is very detailed). Good drawings also give you natural appeal, whereas with 3D you're constantly battling the mechanical look. But on the other hand like you said, revision is way easier.

You're right, you will improve in 2D from doing 3D and vice versa. It will force you to think more about the animation in an isolated sense when you do not have to worry about drawing. But part of my point if you are not experienced in 3d is that you might struggle to translate the same appeal/dynamics you get in 2D.

>>2116768
This is really nice, my only thing is that when she stops at the end there could be a little more overlap, like in the hair or hands.

>>2116042
I like this, maybe if the person catching the punch reached that pose a couple frames sooner, it's a little weird to me how they both reach the key at the exact same time. Try adding a few frames before she does the expression take too.

>>2116381
If this is mainly an exercise to draw an on-model turn I would do it in place, it's hard to see errors if the head is moving across the whole screen.

>>2116029
For the speed of the upward movement of the wings I feel there is too much overlap.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:47:59 2015 No.2116972
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>>2116852
Live2D, I was thinking on making a thread so maybe we could figure it out how to use it. I have the program but all the tutorials are in Japanese. It basically consist in two tools, a mapping tool to connect the parts and a animator tool to move it around and also make scripts (for example lip sync, blinking, etc), pic related, it's hatsoone miki.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:55:22 2015 No.2116977 >>2116972 Im pretty sure they dont use live2D. Theyve been doing animations LONG before live2d came out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:07:39 2015 No.2116987 >>2116768 looks great, but i suggest you take some time off and get better at drawing. Imo the drawing itself isnt very apealing, but overall great job

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:17:21 2015 No.2117003

>>2116977
Yeah probably, Photoshop has the same mapping tool it's not new, so maybe it's just a bunch of techniques using different programs. but Live2D gathers the same tools in one program so I think you could achieve the same level of animation without too much hassle, if you understand how to use it.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:19:25 2015 No.2117005

>>2116987
>anatomically correct
>color choice is pretty spot on
>telling them to get better because you don't like the style.
Don't get me wrong i'm not saying there isn't anything that could've have been a bit more refined, but the way you worded that just seemed like you had a personal grudge with style they chose.
Instead of generally telling them to get good, why not point out the flaws and give some direction on how to improve?

>>2116768
The one thing that bugs me the most about this is the arms.
they kinda just stop at the side and they seem a little off like they're too close to the torso when she stands still. There should be some space in between and the shoulders are misaligned in the last frame.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:24:06 2015 No.2117013

>>2117005
>telling them to get better because you don't like the style.
I think what the artist was going for was a anime looking style or whatever, and i actually love anime and pretty much all styles that fit into that genre. But i just dont find his drawings very appealing.
I have nothing more to complain about, only the way he drew his character. Everything else is pretty much spot on like you stated

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:43:33 2015 No.2117040 >>2117003 Its probably like this right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bXtXtmRwdE Thats basically puppet rigging? I think?

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:47:34 2015 No.2117046 [DELETED]

>>2117003
Its probably like this right?

[YouTube] Jinx Login Screen - Rigging (embed)

Then end up with stuff like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWe4I6dXvms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBpWymbzcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZejC0CRL8

Thats basically puppet rigging? I think?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:51:17 2015 No.2117050 >>2117040 >>2117046 Good Job, But honestly that's pretty cool I didn't know you could do that stuff through photoshop.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:56:23 2015 No.2117056
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>>2117003
Im wondering if its basically like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bXtXtmRwdE

Then you get results like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZejC0CRL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBpWymbzcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWe4I6dXvms

But im a bit doubtful because it seems a bit more advanced than that.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:24:42 2015 No.2117103

>>2117056
nope, second video has CG in the fire, light, bubble, robot spinning, ring spinning and particles. the body of the girl is puppet rigging.

Third video is CG in fire, smoke, fireworks, light and the background are just layers moving to the left and resizing. The body and chinese rocket thing is rigging.

4th video is more explanatory, the only puppet rigging here is what you see in the first video, all other effects are CG, the backgorund is just a drawing.

Your pic can be done with live 2D or puppet rigging, the camera trick makes it look more advanced. In fact you can even animate a character ruing around while turning the camera with a the euclid version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SMDLnC-cMU

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:29:54 2015 No.2117105 >>2117103 >and the background are just layers moving to the left and resizing Actually maybe it's a 3D background with 2D sprites buildings, but they're definitely static drawings not 3D buildings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:32:39 2015 No.2117107 >>2113439 That looks rotoscoped, I can tell because I have seem a lot of incompetent anime art in my time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:35:40 2015 No.2117113 >>2116972 >>2117056 lol dude shut the fuck up you clearly don't know what you're talking about

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:36:40 2015 No.2117116 >>2117107 Yes, it's rotoscoped. Japanese animators can't draw realistic animation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:43:31 2015 No.2117126 File: 84 KB, 770x750, ss+(2015-06-10+at+07.42.47).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2117056 This is almost kind of cute

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:44:54 2015 No.2117128 >>2117103 Yeah im mainly talking about the body movements. Guess ill start experimenting with puppet rigging soon. >>2117126 Thanks for the compliment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 13:04:53 2015 No.2117142 >>2116768 You actually used too many frames at the wrong times and it ended up pretty stiff, this is common beginner mistake when you don't do kinetic sketches first to feel out movement

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 13:13:20 2015 No.2117146 >>2117142 Post your work, faggot. I bet you can't even animate a proper bouncing ball.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 13:16:57 2015 No.2117152 >>2117146 Not that guy, but why are you so mad? Are you even the guy he criticized?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 13:44:44 2015 No.2117164 >>2117142 i'd argue its fine for the character's personality, probably some more overlap would be nice but the movement should be determined by the acting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 14:01:31 2015 No.2117172 >>2111105 OP next time make clear that this is warm-up and tell 'em it was Zone's

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 14:40:15 2015 No.2117210 >>2116768 lel you just outdone everyone in this thread. Congrats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 14:49:35 2015 No.2117219 >>2117113 I don't understand why you are so mad. He didn't say anything that should have triggered such a response.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 14:52:11 2015 No.2117222 >>2117210 kek It's not difficult to outdo everyone in this thread but he did a good job nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 14:59:09 2015 No.2117236 >>2117222 That's true. BUT THEM TRIPS BREEEEH.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 15:40:28 2015 No.2117286 >>2116768 5/5, but the way the arms stop at the end is very awkward, like an anon already pointed out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 16:13:50 2015 No.2117331 >>2111105 Nigga you stole her thighs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 16:23:38 2015 No.2117342 >>2116768 Sorry but I don't understand the enthusiasm of other people over this Well judging from some of the work posted in here, I can kinda see >>2116042 This one's my favorite. Would love to see it polished up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 16:26:19 2015 No.2117348 File: 1.40 MB, 1280x720, Tanzkreis.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Took me 9 Hours

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 16:35:49 2015 No.2117360 >>2113491 >>2113489 actually it's pretty good; since only you are working on it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 16:36:41 2015 No.2117362 >>2117348 Doesn't seem like there is enough of a wind up for the jump, but other than that I kinda like it. Polish it up if you want, it could be even better. But either way keep at it!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 19:52:53 2015 No.2117602 >>2116768 10/10

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:10:00 2015 No.2117610 [DELETED]

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>>2116987
>>2117005
You guys are right. I need to start flipping my keys and check the balance more too.
>>2116866
>>2116938
>>2117286
I originally intended for this to be on all 3s, instead of ending on 2s like the first one. I know this is a lazy fix, but does this look any better? Some retarded part of me wanted more snap somewhere, but it's probably not where >>2117142 is referring to.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:12:54 2015 No.2117613 [DELETED]

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>>2117142
I reworked the timing using more 2s in the beginning and ending on 3s, which is closer to the motion for the arms that I imagined while drawing the keys, but it breaks the walk into being impossibly fast.
tl;dr I need more practice and I need to draw better.

Thanks for the compliments though, people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:18:08 2015 No.2117618 >>2117613 You got some numbered roughs? I'd love to see your process.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:24:51 2015 No.2117626 >>2117613 how much did it took bro? just to take reference. I have an assignment where I need to animate anything to my like, but I dunno if I have the time to do a glorious frame by frame animation

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:32:47 2015 No.2117631 >>2117116 Except they can, as of today Japanese animators are the BEST animators in general.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:44:54 2015 No.2117640
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last 2 frames got switched, so reposting.
>>2116987
>>2117005
You guys are right. I need to start flipping my keys and check the balance more too.
>>2116866
>>2116938
>>2117286
I originally intended for this to be on all 3s, instead of ending on 2s like the first one. I know this is a lazy fix, but does this look any better? Some retarded part of me wanted more snap somewhere, but it's probably not where >>2117142 is referring to.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:49:06 2015 No.2117645
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>>2117142
I reworked the timing using more 2s in the beginning and ending on 3s, which is closer to the motion for the arms that I imagined while drawing the keys, but it breaks the walk into being impossibly fast.
tl;dr I need more practice and I need to draw better.

Thanks for the compliments though, people.
>>2117618
coming right up
>>2117626
1 full day for keys, and about 30 minutes per in between. 16 frames for the water, and 26 frames for the character, so something like 48 hours of work. That and a day for compositing and trying to figure out After Effects.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:55:24 2015 No.2117647 File: 166 KB, 1000x563, keys.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2117618

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 21:11:10 2015 No.2117664 >>2117640 Shadows need a bit of work. It's most noticeable with the ones under her breasts. When she bends over, a shadow should develop over her torso/legs, rather than two static circles under her breasts. Looks good other than that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 22:57:40 2015 No.2117754 >>2117645 the movement feels awkward and uncomfortable. kudos for the animation though i admire the overall polish

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 23:34:04 2015 No.2117766 >>2117645 how long does it take? Do you need help?

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 23:59:22 2015 No.2117777
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>>2117754
That's why I went with the 3s over 2s.
>>2117766
A little over a week. Don't know what you mean by help though.
>>2117664
Thanks, unfortunately I think I'm going to try to move on to something new. I'll try not to be as static next time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 00:21:50 2015 No.2117797 File: 42 KB, 650x250, ARGHAG.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wish i could draw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 00:34:23 2015 No.2117807 >>2117797 shit thats actually pretty good. nice and fluid

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 00:42:59 2015 No.2117813 >>2117797 It's not so bad as all that. You're just about done with the hard part >[now, comes the loooooong part]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 00:43:00 2015 No.2117814 >>2117777 quaaaaaaaaaads

Anonymous Thu Jun 11 01:14:10 2015 No.2117832

>>2117813
>>2117807
Thanks, all of that actually took several hours to do.. Haven't animated in a while but I want to get back into it. I hope improving my art skills will make everything faster.

I used to animate stickfigures when I was younger.. I'll post some random violent things I made when I was 12 for reference

http://www.fastswf.com/Z7EThcY

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 01:18:43 2015 No.2117838 >>2117832 What was your name? I used to be way into the whole "stick figure fight animating" thing and I might remember you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 07:08:15 2015 No.2118067 Any tips on coloring and shading a lot of frames at once?>>2117777

Anonymous Thu Jun 11 07:32:41 2015 No.2118083
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>>2116938
>Rough 3D animation looks like ass. You also animate on ones all the time, meaning you're animating double the frames a lot of the time.

>get a new vidya card
>suddenly I can play at 60fps instead of my regular 30
>have to wait months for my vidya to load because I forced the animators to go back to worn on all those extra frames

I'm glad I didn't go all the way to 120fps or this shit would never start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 08:42:37 2015 No.2118109 >>2118067 Use something like Paintman or TV Paint that will recognize your colored lines. Other than that, it's just bucket tool like a mad cunt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 09:09:37 2015 No.2118123 >>2117797 It actually has really nice movement. But like you said, your drawings need work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 09:38:46 2015 No.2118140 >>2118083 I know it's a joke post, but if people don't know, stuff is usually animated at 30fps and then interpolated to 60+ in games

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 11:37:15 2015 No.2118230 File: 88 KB, 750x500, anim_6_10.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 11:46:41 2015 No.2118243 >>2117777 it's not so much about the timing as it is the movement itself although the timing as also a little even

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 11:51:49 2015 No.2118252 >>2114861 this is really nice. the actions going on in the background read well, the acceleration is felt and the timing is pretty nice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 11:54:25 2015 No.2118260 Do you have a blog anon :^)

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Anonymous Thu Jun 11 12:09:21 2015 No.2118287

>>2118263
Add a bit more emotion to it the bird thing doesn't even look surprised that he just powered up and just kinda sits there like he doesn't get paid enough to care.
other than that only thing I can complain about is a lack of frames, nice job I like it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 13:19:38 2015 No.2118363 >>2118260 No shame in shilling for yourself man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 13:51:57 2015 No.2118405 >>2118263 I remember this from like a year or two ago man

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 14:28:52 2015 No.2118439 >>2113010 Don't use that logic with me, I understand brushes dont help you draw but to put it into perspective drawing in flash is like trying to a paint brush in real life to draw precise lines. The tool is shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 14:41:58 2015 No.2118450 Can someone summarize the technical aspect of making an animation? For example, make the sketch in animation program like TVpaint, import layers to paint program, import layers to edit program, save as video... something like that? I'm so lost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 14:46:49 2015 No.2118459 >>2118230 Try to make the blink faster, usually closing it is faster than opening them, check some cartoons or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 15:38:58 2015 No.2118521 >>2118450 Just do everything in TVpaint. animation, cleanup, color, even backgrounds if you want. Then just export the cuts and edit them together with some editing software.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 16:09:06 2015 No.2118556 >>2118450 Photoshop 5-6 supports animation, btw go pirate it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 16:10:38 2015 No.2118557 File: 9 KB, 360x270, aa.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't understand TVpaint too complicated pic related made in easy toon in 999999 hours so much better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 22:09:19 2015 No.2118856 >>2118557 I like TVPaint, but the interface is shit. People say the 11 is THE BEST.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 22:34:26 2015 No.2118880 File: 108 KB, 480x600, anim_6_11.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2118459 better?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 23:07:28 2015 No.2118913 >>2118880 they look like curtains closing anon, take a second and look at someone blinking and see how fast it is, yours is way too slow

Anonymous Thu Jun 11 23:16:27 2015 No.2118917

a SECOND animation thread!? nice job guys keep up the good work. I've been trying to animate over the last few days but I honestly think I'm getting worse. After reading books about timing and everything. For some reason everything looks off now. I will keep trying though.

Anonymous Thu Jun 11 23:49:34 2015 No.2118946

>>2118880
It doesn't really needs that many frames but try editing the frame speed of the eyelid when it's below 3/4 of the eye by x2. For faster blinking just edit the part when it closes the eyelid.

Google anime blinking gif or disney blinking gif there's plenty of examples and all follow the same principle, open the gif in an editor and see for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 23:50:43 2015 No.2118949 File: 431 KB, 640x360, giphy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2118946 forgot the ritsu

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 00:01:14 2015 No.2118956 File: 16 KB, 405x300, experimento-bola-1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i used PS for this. I want to get into motion graphics but i don't really know if the transition to after effects will be too intimidating.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 00:04:21 2015 No.2118960 >>2118956 make a big ball sticking smaller things as it rolls on

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 00:17:48 2015 No.2118973 File: 1.46 MB, 350x197, SProut-1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2111105 I'm gonna do it /ic I'm gonna make an animation!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 00:19:12 2015 No.2118976 >>2118973 Looks cute mang, keep it up fam, for real though nigga, I'm looking forward to it!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 11:03:41 2015 No.2119347 >>2118880 this is creepy. your work is creepy and not good

Anonymous Fri Jun 12 11:17:24 2015 No.2119354
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Here's few. Feedback would be greatly valued.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqA3RSVCR1M&feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLAntiCobBw&sns=fb

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 11:24:49 2015 No.2119361 >>2118949 >>2118946 Thanks for the reference. >>2119347 what do you want, an apology?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 11:42:05 2015 No.2119375 >>2119361 an apology won't make your animation any better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 12:13:27 2015 No.2119402 >>2119354 Great sound design and direction, but your proportions are all over the place when the characters move. Practicing construction and gesture would do you a lot of good. That shot zooming up the skeleton was really fun though.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:14:20 2015 No.2119665 >>2119448 Not enough squish as it makes contact with the floor

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:17:01 2015 No.2119671 >>2113529 thanks also!

Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:36:11 2015 No.2119691
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A warning for anyone thinking about buying Tvpaint. I just bought the standard version and now I discover it needs a fucking dongle in order to run, this is incredibly frustrating. You literally can't use the program without it plugged in hogging a usb slot. What were they thinking? I get that it's to help stop piracy but this is so cumbersome and impractical.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:39:18 2015 No.2119695 >>2119354 They're a little slow, work on timing, think of how it would work in real life speed, the skeleton ones better than the shadow one as far as the timing and speed goes. Sometimes you really do need less frames

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:43:48 2015 No.2119699 >>2119354 Nice stuff. I love the sounds. Where did you get them? Did you record them yourself or is there an archive of free sfx somewhere I don't know about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:44:27 2015 No.2119700 >>2114884 Yep, I must agree. I see potential here

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:46:08 2015 No.2119703 File: 1.93 MB, 245x187, 1361611264838.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2119691 mfw I pirated tvpaint and dont need any assed dongle

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:51:58 2015 No.2119707 >>2119703 I would have too if there were any cracked mac versions out there. I searched and searched but there are none. And I'm not installing windows just to run 1 program.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 19:05:03 2015 No.2119727 >>2111856 I cant handle the tits trying to fall off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 21:21:41 2015 No.2119815 >>2119691 since you bought a legit copy why not use the pirated version and use the fact that you bought a legit copy to protect yourself from any legal issues?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 22:22:13 2015 No.2119870 File: 68 KB, 480x270, ball1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy shit I can animate on my phone!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 23:01:15 2015 No.2119893 I'm actually retarded, can anyone help me? I've looked up "animating on 2s" and "on 3s", but I don't understand what they mean. For now I'm just looking at the thread, but what do those things mean so I can keep up? Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 23:02:25 2015 No.2119894 >>2119691 Ironically, the program is incredibly easy to pirate. They seriously need to ditch the dongle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 23:03:25 2015 No.2119895 >>2119893 Animating on 2s means using the same drawing twice each time, same with 3s. It's basically animating at half FPS without having to actually change the FPS.

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 00:49:58 2015 No.2119989

>>2119893
Animating on 1s is drawing every frame, animating on 2s is every other frame, 3s is every third, and so on. The higher the number, the less work you have to do, but the choppier it'll look. Typically Disney stuff is 1s, TV cartoons are 2s, and anime is 3s.

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 05:17:27 2015 No.2120142

>>2119402
>>2119695
>>2119699

Thanks for the tips! I'm really new to animation and your input helped to pinpoint the problems I have also seen in my work. The skeleton zoom was my favourite part to animate, great to hear that you found it fun.

As for the sound design, I got a lot of help from my friend who studies audio-visual media culture. There's a private archive where he got most of the sounds. Some of the voices and music are self made also.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 13:29:51 2015 No.2120428 File: 1.44 MB, 960x540, gf.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2119870 This app is literally blowing my mind. I can even import audio and scrub. I need a surface pro 3 stat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 13:47:10 2015 No.2120451 >>2120428 wut app is dat, you're doing pretty good there too by the way, there's something to be said about frame economy in animation, I think a lot of us need to be realistic about how we go about it if we ever want to finish anything by ourselves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 13:59:11 2015 No.2120464 found a good animation tumblr worth checking out http://toubun14.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 13:59:35 2015 No.2120465 >>2120451 It's called rough animator. It's on android and I recommend getting a stylus to use with it. The app and the stylus amount to about 12 dollars total.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 14:00:22 2015 No.2120468 >>2120428 what app?? Why aren't you naming it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 14:00:22 2015 No.2120469 >>2120428 >let me continue to be so amazed at this app! >but i won't say what app it is!!!! >until someone comments on my animation because i'm a fucking attention whore!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 14:02:09 2015 No.2120472 File: 1.32 MB, 486x273, tumblr_nls2h9EXl71u6ofceo1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2120464 forgot to attach an attention catcher

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 14:04:14 2015 No.2120475 >>2120464 there's so much fucking stuff on there, really good tumblr

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 14:14:18 2015 No.2120486 File: 295 KB, 440x329, 1432269819348.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2120428 is the surface pro great for animating? i have been thinking of buying a sony xperia tablet to use for reference photos and maybe even animating on the go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 14:16:15 2015 No.2120489 >>2120486 The surface 3 from what I hear is second only to the Cintiq companion 2 (it's also less than half the price).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 14:17:20 2015 No.2120490 >>2120489 Also personally I'm strongly considering waiting to see what the companion 3 looks like but the waiting for an announcement of any kind is killing me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 16:30:30 2015 No.2120631 >>2116852 this in particular was done in flash, have you played the games? the swf files are all there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 19:34:13 2015 No.2120920 When i draw or even animate i think 3dimensional. Is this also helpful to practice 3d animation? Sorry if it's offtopic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 19:39:32 2015 No.2120935 >>2120631 The animation may have been done in another program though right? I mean, those are definitely raster graphics and not vector. >>2120920 Well if you're talking about making the maquette I guess so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 19:57:07 2015 No.2120950 >>2120468 >>2120469 I already said it was called "rough animator " haha but I was at the range so I couldn't check my phone sorry.

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 05:42:04 2015 No.2121295

when I am animating slow movements I am having issues keeping the lines in check. I suffer from squiggle lines for slow movements, how do I fix this? besides paying close attention and taking time to get every line right. Or did I answer my own question?

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 06:23:40 2015 No.2121317

>>2121295
Do roughs, first, and find your hotkeys for flipping between frames.

When you do cleanup, you'll find you need to constantly flip between the previous frame, and the current one, to see the previous line, and look at subtle differences between corresponding lines on different frames to keep consistency. Think how old school animators would have 3 pages between their left hand fingers, and constantly flip between them. That's why.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 17:01:37 2015 No.2121710 >>2120428 Damn, thanks for the tip. Bought it straight away.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 17:51:44 2015 No.2121748 File: 419 KB, 1600x900, themorphingnosemansayshello.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any tips?

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 18:11:50 2015 No.2121765

>>2121748
Animation-wise, there's really just not enough there to comment on. I think you need to work on your line quality. As it stands, it's much too scratchy, which is just generally unappealing in art. It's especially important in animation though, because viewers have to be able to read the shape in a fraction of a second. Speaking of shape, the face seems like it was just thrown onto an oval... i you could look into drawing heads that would be good. I'd recommend you work on your drawing skills before you focus too much on animation.

TLDR; Focus on solid lines/ construction. Also, you should read the animator's survival kit by Richard Williams, it should be quite useful. Hope this helps!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 18:48:32 2015 No.2121793 >>2112946 Does anybody else know any other software for this? I remember a while back on /a/ someone had animated some H manga using a japanese program but I can't find anything about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 19:31:39 2015 No.2121824 File: 484 KB, 380x285, howisthatanimated.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2121793 example image for the kind of animation I'm talking about

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 15:46:06 2015 No.2122595 >>2122585 make the arms jiggle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 22:36:17 2015 No.2123832 >>2117640 What program did you use?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 17 00:06:25 2015 No.2123902 >>2116042 K U N O WE MISS YOU

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