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[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.2098643]

Previous Thread >>2092472

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts
fusroda.com/resources/

>fellowBro's books :
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>Figure Drawing Tool:
pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
posemaniacs.com/

>Photoshop Brushes
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digitalbrushes.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2098650]

>>2098643
are you ever going to learn to draw nigger

[Anonymous No.2098657]

HOW THE FUCK DO I INTO DRAWING WATER

[Anonymous No.2098662]

[Anonymous No.2098674]

>>2098657
STUDY YOU PATHETIC CUNT

[Anonymous No.2098677]

>>2098650
this.

[Anonymous No.2098725]

>>2098662
I love these ms paint ones so much

[Anonymous No.2098732]

>>2098650
Are you? 100% guaranteed you're no better.

[Anonymous No.2098733]

doing a to scale drawing of the mona lisa.

[Anonymous No.2098744]

>>2098650

Why do you hate Firez guys?

[Anonymous No.2098747]

>>2098744
I tried asking this once. The answer I got was basically 1. because he uses a name/trip and omfg who does he think he is daring to have a fucking identity and 2. jealousy, plain and simple ass jealousy.

[Anonymous No.2098754]

about 2.5 hours from life. Looking for crits.

[Anonymous No.2098757]

>>2098754
Woops. Heres the resized version

[Anonymous No.2098763]

>>2098757
Looking good

[Anonymous No.2098767]

>>2098744
>>2098747
Not an anon who hates/complains about the guy, but it's worth noting that back in the day he also used to post 20 updates of whatever he was working on in a given thread, most of which were tiny, near undetectable changes. He doesn't do it anymore, but there was definitely a time where it seemed like he worked on a piece for an extra 5 min, posted it, worked on it again for another 20, posted it, worked on it for another 10, posted it, etc. This is all in a single sitting mind you.

[Anonymous No.2098769]

>>2098747
>2. jealousy, plain and simple ass jealousy

It's very sad that many artist are jealousy as hell, I remember like a 2 years ago an idiot who accuse me of trace things when I just started to study how to draw.

[Anonymous No.2098770]

>>2098757
I get that you're trying to play with lost edges and whatnot, but the nose looks really weird. Like, the nostrils simply aren't there, same with the wing of the nose on the shadow side. You can get away with this if this is how you treat the shadows everywhere, but you have included information in the shadows in other areas like the mouth and eyes.

Other than that it looks quite good. The hair and ears are probably oversimplified, but there's only so much you can do with the time constraints.

[Anonymous No.2098777]

>>2098757
Nice rendering anon, You paint her mouth to small.

[Anonymous No.2098781]

>>2098757
Thought it was Picard facepalming from the thumbnail for a split second

[Anonymous No.2098784]

>>2098747
Only beginner thread baddies are jealous of Firez

[Anonymous No.2098799]

>>2098767
I was here after those days, so I didn't know about that. When I started coming here, all I ever saw was he'd post a couple times and say barely anything unless he was giving critique and people just jumping on his ass for some reason. I can see how that'd be annoying though since I experienced Bones, but once he stopped you'd think people would give the guy a break.
>>2098769
Yeah I'm convinced there are a few people on this board who live to shitpost and troll, I'm pretty sure some of them don't even draw. So now when I see someone aggressively talking something down, not giving any actual advice, and not even showing their own art to back up they know what they're talking about, I ignore it. Usually anyone who's any good doesn't talk like that anyway.

[Anonymous No.2098801]

L-leave Firez alone!!!

[Anonymous No.2098802]

I feel like there's something inherently wrong with the perspective on the right arm and shoulder (his left arm technically) but I can't put my finger on it and it's driving me insane. Free me from this hell /ic/

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.2098803]

Thank you guys but you should not worry about the trolls, they are not even trying nowadays. Besides they really underestimate how much I love art.

For the record OP pic was done 20 minutes after trying Corel Painter for the 1st time, here is something more proper (1.5 hrs approx) I'm loving how smooth it is compared to ArtRage.

[Anonymous No.2098809]

>>2098803
>they really underestimate how much I love staying within my comfort zone
FTFY

[Anonymous No.2098810]

>>2098803
stop samefacing

[Anonymous No.2098811]

>>2098809
>>2098810
The faggotry is real.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.2098813]

Also did these on the phone with SketchBook Pro.

[Anonymous No.2098814]

>>2098811
says the fanboy choking on firez' dick

Is that why you're so salty?

[Anonymous No.2098817]

>>2098814
It's not even about Firez, it's just I can't believe someone could be so pathetic as to sit around all day and try to shit on people who are actually doing something with their lives, like tearing someone else down is an accomplishment. It's beyond pathetic really, actually it's pretty gross.

[Anonymous No.2098818]

>>2098814
>>2098809
>>2098810


You jelly?

[Anonymous No.2098820]

>>2098733

Round her face out more, especially the cheeks and jaw.

[Anonymous No.2098824]

>>2098818
Firez can't into basic perspective. What's there to be jelly of again?

[Anonymous No.2098826]

havent done shit m8
>tfw this is the only progress i've made in 1 week
>tfw i'm not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.2098827]

>>2098820
yeah i edited it since the picture. ill post another one at the end of tomorrow/see where i get.

[Anonymous No.2098828]

>>2098824
I don't know how you can tell what his flaws are considering you can't draw any better.

[Anonymous No.2098831]

>>2098828
Project harder, and make sure you swallow when he finishes!

[Anonymous No.2098834]

>>2098831
Hating him will never make you better, only bitter.

[Anonymous No.2098836]

>>2098824

so, if you are really good and have tons of knowledge in your mind, why do you hate him?
It's simple HE is better at paiting than you.

[Anonymous No.2098839]

>>2098834
I don't hate Firez. I dislike sameface and watching people stagnate because they repeatedly ignore the same criticisms.

[Anonymous No.2098840]

>>2098836
Okay, firez

[Anonymous No.2098841]

>>2098839
Oh you dislike watching people stagnate because it reminds you how much time you've wasted trying to convince other people they suck instead of improving your own art, if you even draw at all?

[Anonymous No.2098842]

>>2098841
I'm drawing right now. Does that rustle you too?

[Anonymous No.2098845]

>>2098842
Not nearly as much as you being worse than Firez rustles you.

[Anonymous No.2098849]

>>2098845
If you can draw a face correctly you're already better. I'll concede that you're the superior dicksucker, however.

[Anonymous No.2098851]

Is firez also trying to become /ic/'s samefag-darling now? How many people like this are there already on here?

What's so attractive about a selfmade completely fake badge of popularity? I'll never get that. The only guy who is legitimately popular on here by virtue of his work is catbib.

[Anonymous No.2098853]

>>2098839
>>2098842

You shouldn't overheat your head when people don't follow criticims, instead learn over they mistakes.

and show what are you drawing.

[Anonymous No.2098856]

>>2098849
I already said this really isn't about Firez. He definitely has some flaws in his work that I would critique him on and personally, at the risk of sounding like a jerk too, I'm fairly confident in saying I'm more skilled than him in most aspects, but he's definitely got color theory down better than I have, and I like some of his rendering. Other than that, I know he's got work to do. But I'm pretty sick of people just yelling "you suck" from the stands, and every once in a while I call them out. The only reason you bother to shit on him and whatever other handful of posters I'm sure you go after regularly is that he's an easy target and you feel insecure about your own work. If you actually wanted to see them improve, you'd state your crit clearly and concisely in neutral language, maybe discuss a bit, then move on. Instead you use angry words to try to hurt and upset, so nobody can believe you actually care about his or anyone's growth but rather that you're venting.

[Anonymous No.2098859]

>>2098856
>you'd state your crit clearly and concisely in neutral language
People do this all of the time. Firez posts for validation from newbies and very little else.

[Anonymous No.2098862]

>>2098859
Not really, at least not since I started frequenting /ic/.

Firez strikes me as quite humble and disciplined actually.

I'm not >>2098856

[Anonymous No.2098865]

>>2098862
I myself have posted several, so welcome, newfriend.

[Anonymous No.2098866]

>>2098859
>People do this all of the time
And when they do, I don't say anything. Even if he does post for validation, that doesn't mean the guy who wants to toss salt in the mix just because a few people might say "oh, that's pretty nice!" isn't being an ass. But like >>2098862 said whenever he does post I never see him doing anything overtly annoying, he barely says anything, and honestly I think I may have only seen someone pay his work a compliment once. He gets far more flaming than validation on any scale you want it, if he didn't actually care about the few good critiques he does get, it sure as hell wouldn't be worth it for a couple anonymous "likes" on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.2098870]

>>2098813
I'm still babby tier but I think this looks really cool.

[Anonymous No.2098885]

>>2098802
I think the major problem is the arms are far too short(both). Try looking for some reference, look in the mirror, what do triceps look like from this angle. Think about the bone structure of the upper arm and forearm, how would they interact mechanically.

Again, major problem. Your anatomy is wack in a lot of other places. Mainly how you draw the neck in relation to the torso and ribcage. But the arms are what anybody will be able to point out to you as being too short.

[LK No.2098955]

[Anonymous No.2098959]

[Anonymous No.2098981]

values muddy?

[Anonymous No.2098983]

>>2098803
Trying to capture all the subtle hue and value changes is messing you up

[Anonymous No.2098984]

>>2098955
back of the chair looks curved, and is she resting both her legs on the point end of the chair? ouch

[Anonymous No.2099013]

>>2098817
This. Firez has kind of a xerox syndrome going on (but who doesn't when using photos), other than that he's quite decent. And yes, I remember his 100 updates per thread (the bazooka schoolgirl). But come on, he surely does not deserve this.

[Anonymous No.2099047]

>>2098757
what kind of paints did you use? Looks great btw

[Anonymous No.2099059]

>tfw FiRez lives in Honduras or some shit hole like that
>FiRez getting chopped to death by machetes in a gang related accident is a possibility

[Anonymous No.2099063]

>>2099059
>being this upset that someone on 4chan is a bit better than you at art

[Anonymous No.2099066]

>>2098643

I only vaguely dislike the guy because he shits up threads by proxy (via people bashing him) when he OPs them.

Hes much better than me though, props for the dedication too.

[Anonymous No.2099069]

>>2098657
Well, you're attempting to paint (digital paint) it, so look up painting/digital painting technicks on the subject.

[Anonymous No.2099077]

Current work in progress

Painting, acrylic, 3 ft x 2 ft

Plan on fleshing out the reds and blues to contrast the background.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2099089]

>>2099063
>le jello argument
>implying I'm upset

FiRez pls.

[Anonymous No.2099091]

>>2099077
think the top and bottom third look great, but the face need a bit of work, mainly in the features. The eyes and mouth in particular need more depth because at the moment the blue drops at the moment have a lot more depth and so they they're drawing me in a lot more, and (I'm assuming) you want the face to be the focal point

create more depth on the face by pushing your values darker and lighter (the eye looks for high contrast) And try to make the lips and eye look puffier, it will look a lot more exciting

[Anonymous No.2099093]

>>2099089
I don't even like firez that much, I just appreciate that he actually posts content instead of le gooby pls /b/-tier shitposting

[Anonymous No.2099098]

I throught this was the draw thread, I must be confused cuz all I see is hardcore shit posting

Holy shit, focus on your art, criticizing and learning, faggots

[Anonymous No.2099100]

>>2099091
also did this cos i have nothing better to do. Just bump up the contrast in the face

[Anonymous No.2099104]

>>2099091

Thanks mate.

That's the plan.
...just noticed the dude's nose is cut off at the bottom, and his mouth is off kilter; nothing I can't rework.

[Anonymous No.2099112]

>>2098818
stop samefacing and being physically incapable of drawing anything than bland, boring pretty girl faces you faggot then we'll talk

[Anonymous No.2099115]

>>2099104
stop samefacing and being physically incapable of drawing anything other than bland, boring pretty girl faces you faggot then we'll talk

[Anonymous No.2099116]

>>2099115
meant to respond to >>2098818

[Anonymous No.2099122]

>>2099115
Says same troll that never post his art

[Anonymous No.2099124]

>>2099122
kek what makes you say i dont post my art?
stop samefacing

[Anonymous No.2099138]

>>2099124
>Still no art

Hyperion kek

[Anonymous No.2099144]

>>2099138
ill post my art when you stop samefacing

[Anonymous No.2099149]

>>2099144
I rather not stop as to save people from going blind from your crap.

[Anonymous No.2099154]

>>2099149
ouch

[Anonymous No.2099156]

Progress: sunlight instead of shit apartment light.

[Anonymous No.2099160]

>>2099156

...fuck the glare looks way shittier on screen than on phone...

[Anonymous No.2099177]

y is he even posting this on ic draw thread? meh, I prefer shitposts against firez

[Anonymous No.2099190]

>Le Firez Thread.png

Pls stop.

Anybody got any good resources on pencil rendering.
Maybe something about hatching that isn't just 'go with the forms'.
Maybe some good artists to study from?

[Anonymous No.2099201]

>>2099190
vilppu's pretty good for simplistic, efficient rendering

I reckon your work would look really cool in watercolours though, pencil rendering's boring

[Anonymous No.2099211]

>>2099201
Isn't properly using water colors really difficult though.
That's what I've heard, at least.
As for Vilppu, I completely forgot he even had stuff on tone and what not.
I've must've watched the the stuff about gesture and forms dozens of times, but I never bothered watching past that.
Thanks for the reminder.

[Anonymous No.2099214]

>>2099190

[Anonymous No.2099233]

>>2099211
Its not too hard to learn, its just that you always run the risk of permanently fucking your piece up, but the more you use it the better you become at controlling that

And yeah I watched tons of vilppu stuff on new masters academy, but im certain he'll have other vids out there on rendering for free

[Anonymous No.2099244]

[Anonymous No.2099249]

>>2099214
>FiRez now has 2 of his very own reaction images

Have the memes become too dank?

[Anonymous No.2099253]

>>2099249

Or not dank enough?


(I hope fools aren't thinking my blue nigga is a Firez piece... hmmm)

[Anonymous No.2099265]

I need some feedback on this thing's composition. I posted this on the beginner thread and one Anon said the dragon felt way on the foreground therefore the man-thing I drew didn't feel in danger or in aim of fire, and he's probably right. But I still want as many feedback as possible, so please guys give me some external views.

Also, regarding the other thing: how do I fix it, by making the man darker? the beast lighter? the man closer to the center? or to the bottom? or putting some more things in front of the monster's head?

[Anonymous No.2099274]

>>2099253

I really hope not. Firez' actual piece is better than that and that stupid reaction image

[Anonymous No.2099277]

>>2099265
Value control should be your primary concern right now I think. You can't really figure out what's happening from the thumbnail, and even the enlarged version isn't clear. Had you not mentioned there's a dragon there, I wouldn't have known. The ground has almost the same value as the dragon. The man isn't far from it either. Try to push it further. Make some thumbnails trying to make the composition as clear as possible only through values. You can work from the thumbnail you like best.

[Anonymous No.2099280]

>>2099274
Fuck off Firez cocksucker

[Anonymous No.2099289]

>>2099265
I would say make the man smaller and place him right in the line of fire of the dragon's mouth; not necessarily in front of it.

[Anonymous No.2099290]

Why does /ic/ have to consist of retards from /b/?

This place is like the /v/ of art.

[Anonymous No.2099293]

>>2099214
RARE FIREZ
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[Anonymous No.2099301]

it's today thread, too many shitposts I had to join the party

[Anonymous No.2099321]

Critique anything plz.

[Anonymous No.2099332]

>>2099290
Every board is like the /v/ of everything.

[Anonymous No.2099333]

>>2099332
u're mom is the /v/ of my dick

[Anonymous No.2099337]

>>2099277
Thanks man, I see it now! is pic related better? I do what I can with my cheap mouse.

>>2099289
I should add that the man is not really supossed to be a man, he's more like an ancient golem or guardian or whatever nerdy word sounds cooler. But yeah he's supossed to be a big guy, which is why I fear he'll look small if I make him, well, small. Maybe there's a way of shrinking him down without losing his bigguyness?

[Anonymous No.2099346]

>>2099277
>>2099337
And I forgot the pic.

[Anonymous No.2099347]

>>2099337
>Maybe there's a way of shrinking him down without losing his bigguyness?

Add trees/ a human, etc for scale; this would make the dragon look even bigger if done right.

[Anonymous No.2099350]

>>2099346
That's the unedited one, FUCK

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2099364]

Its been a while, Haven't painted in months. Did a couple of colour studies last night and today to warm up so I can't paint so more.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2099365]

>>2099364
did this one last night, it's shitty but it was a fun warm up.

[Anonymous No.2099373]

FiReZ please stop using a trip, your presence alone is causing threads to derail.

[Anonymous No.2099387]

>>2098643
Drawing I did to mess around with my brush pens.

[Anonymous No.2099394]

shitty mushroom fucks

[Anonymous No.2099415]

>>2098767
He still does that shit in stylization threads!

[Anonymous No.2099419]

>>2098757
Hard to tell if she looks like the person you were trying to draw without ever seeing that person. Did you capture the likeness or fail? Nobody knows.

[Anonymous No.2099420]

>>2098803
There you go, he does that again.

[Anonymous No.2099422]

>>2099373
>implying he'll listen

He's got his own head so far up his ass that it's starting to come out of his mouth.
He constantly claims that he doesn't care about people talking shit and trolls, but like 90% of the tripfags, it's obvious he's got some kind of lack of attention disorder.

[Anonymous No.2099427]

Im trying out brushes cuz brushes apparently make you better.I think

[Anonymous No.2099428]

>>2099420

He posted a clearly improved version stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.2099445]

>>2099427
mmmmm, I like those brushes, they all part of a set? Link?

Big fan of these btw, particularly that bottom one, is that from imagination? Looks very frank frazetta

[Anonymous No.2099461]

>>2099427
if all that is from imagination, why are you on /ic/?

[Anonymous No.2099462]

>>2099190
what's the scale of these figures? And what kind of pencil n paper do you use?

[Anonymous No.2099465]

>>2099427
Which ones are using?

[Anonymous No.2099492]

>>2099462
I draw in an A4 sketchpad. Random cheapo model that my mum buys at those low budget stores for like 70 cents for 80 pages. It's pretty much printer paper from China or something.
When I do one of these figures I flip it vertically.
I also like to draw on A3 sketchpads, but the cheapo store where my mum buys them doesn't always have them.

As for the pencil, I got myself a leadholder with HB lead like a week ago. It's a Mitsubishi Uni-Ball MH500.
A fancy HB pencil pretty much. Before I got it, so up until last week, I just used a random mechanical pencil.

[Anonymous No.2099493]

>>2098981
Yes, it's pretty muddy. Don't copy the picture, construct the figure and determine which planes are in light and which are in shadow.

[Anonymous No.2099520]

>>2099445
yeah no reffs used. I did want it to have a Frazetta feel.

>>2099461
because the bash threads are hularious

>>2099465
I uploaded them here They'll be on for 7 days

we.tl /BaVza99CYu

[Anonymous No.2099530]

Sup, guys.This is my sketches(?). Im trying to get some lvlup, but marking time. I want to draw more reaslistic things like animals, humans, etc. How do u think, what is my problem at this time? What should i learn and practice? Draw from nature? Learn anatomy? What is next step 4 me to get lvlup? Tnx, any tips will help.

[Anonymous No.2099533]

Straight up forgot what I even wanted to paint halfway through.

>>2099427

Gawjuice

[Anonymous No.2099535]

Suddenly lost inspiration and confidence to continue. Something about my approach is not right.

[Anonymous No.2099558]

[Anonymous No.2099564]

>>2099558
what would happen if you stopped the sketchy lines that mask anatomy, and the scratch marks all over the place, and just made a straight up illustration? I think you need to rein in the style at least for a few pieces, and just make a clean illustration. Satisfy my curiosity.

[Anonymous No.2099575]

>>2099564
of course i don't know anatomy thats why i do the sketchy lines

[Anonymous No.2099628]

Don't really know what i feel about this one.

[Anonymous No.2099632]

>>2099628
if it helps, i feel nothing about it, so you're not wrong.

[Anonymous No.2099639]

>>2099535
Geez, how the hell do you get able to do that illustration on the right? Shit's beautiful.
>>2099628
It might be more dynamic if you play with the scale of things a little, like have the guy in the extreme foreground and her in the midground.

[Anonymous No.2099642]

>>2099535
doesn't look perfect, but also doesn't look like it's messed up enough to give up on anon. you should set it down for a bit then come back and keep working on it.

[Anonymous No.2099649]

>>2099520
Well you did a great job of getting the frazetta feel

>we.tl /BaVza99CYu
based

[Anonymous No.2099657]

>>2099564
>>2099558

I think the only reason I like this drawing is the skratchmarks and that it isn't clean.

[Anonymous No.2099659]

>>2099558
I think your style is really cool, stay in ms paint, but I reckon if you worked on fundamentals a little but kept to your style, you could make some really beautiful pieces. At the moment they look cool but they lack depth and enough interesting tones to make anyone look at it for more than 20 seconds

[Anonymous No.2099663]

How to stop procastinating ;_;
also is it clear what the one in the center is wearing?

[Anonymous No.2099671]

>>2099663
It looks like he's wearing a necklace of magic the gathering cards. The values on the troll's pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.2099677]

>>2099663
Only thing I don't understand are those sphere things hanging off his string belt.

Also, the torso on the right dude feels squished. I think he would look a little more dangerous if you widened him up a bit. Just spread the distance from shoulder to shoulder and give him a more defined chest. Just my opinion on that guy. And give him bigger triceps too.

[Anonymous No.2099693]

>>2099671
>necklace of magic the gathering cards
hahaha yea i can see it they are actually supposed to be roman shields, there is a little guy besides the weapon of the one on the left i did for scale but kinda disapeared along the way
>>2099677
and the spheres are also shields, spartan ones
the one on the left is also wearing a necklace of shields but i think is not clear enough yet.
and yea you are right i will exxagerate his body more thanks!

[Anonymous No.2099705]

>>2098826
>>2099364
These are rad

[Anonymous No.2099718]

here's some progress on this. i think proportions are off, so I might draw it again after I'm done with this one. Need to practice the face more.

[Anonymous No.2099719]

>>2098643
How are my doodle /ic/?

[Anonymous No.2099721]

>>2099719
Here 2/3

[Anonymous No.2099723]

>>2099721
Lastly 3/3

[Anonymous No.2099724]

>>2098803
>For the record OP pic was done 20 minutes after trying Corel Painter for the 1st time
>was done 20 minutes
>20 minutes
>20

want a pat on the back? fuck off.

[Anonymous No.2099727]

>>2099321
its shit

[Anonymous No.2099731]

>>2099659
i think i'll have to surrender to loomis, what is the best book?

[Anonymous No.2099789]

Almost done

[Anonymous No.2099795]

>>2099727
you will need a bigger bait

[Anonymous No.2099804]

So I went to a folk festival yesterday. Twas a silly place.

[Anonymous No.2099809]

>>2099628
second thumbnail

[Anonymous No.2099810]

Dragon

[Anonymous No.2099811]

>>2099731
I dunno what your normal drawing skill is like, but just follow the order the sticky recommends. I dunno how much you work but genuinely just make it like a third of the art you do all day and you'll start to implement it in to your work. Your style is great so make sure you don't lose it, lest you end up like one of the dozens of drones on /ic/

[Anonymous No.2099812]

first attempt at painting from imagination, be gentle

[Anonymous No.2099817]

>>2099812
some of the shapes dont look like theyre part of the face

[Anonymous No.2099824]

>>2099817
you mean the actual features or the wrinkles skin and such?

[Anonymous No.2099828]

>>2099824
like this thing

[Anonymous No.2099832]

>>2099828
Ah, ive got ya, thought it might look a little weird

[Anonymous No.2099854]

How does the perspective on this look?

[Hirshell No.2099857]

I feel like a 14 years old making Original Characters...

[Anonymous No.2099863]

>>2099854
just like you have, what's wrong with it?

>>2099857
Yeah, you have to go through that period to improve though. I avoided that for like a year and im only improving my imaginative work now cos im getting out my comfort zone

[Anonymous No.2099867]

There was a thread yesterday to roll for drawing prompts, but I guess it got deleted so I'm just gonna post my wip here.
I rolled "creature of shadow and smoke" or something like that, so I'm doing a picture of Wander from Shadow of the Colossus.
I'm trying a sort of new process, any crits would be welcome.

[Anonymous No.2099868]

>>2098803
Well, i personally find your work to be pretty good, but you can't just use a trip and not expect hatred, i mean
>having a name on a forum that characterizes for anonymity
Fuck off. Also filtered, tripfag little shit.

[Anonymous No.2099873]

>>2099868
>getting mad over tripfags
pretty low man.

[Anonymous No.2099876]

An enviro i did for the irc guys on stream

>>2099812
face seems to be sliding upwards, but other than that well done man

[Anonymous No.2099881]

>>2099857
Steal things you like then twist it into your favor. Originality is a myth.

[Anonymous No.2099882]

>>2099867

[Anonymous No.2099885]

>>2099882
roll

[Anonymous No.2099886]

>>2099882
Thanks, looks like I remembered it right, at least.

[Anonymous No.2099900]

>>2099882
Roll

[Anonymous No.2099908]

>>2099882
this is just fucking lazy.

[Anonymous No.2099913]

>>2099908
Does it really matter how much effort you put into coming up with a prompt so long as you put effort into the drawing? Besides a lot of times I personally draw more freely when I'm not doing my own idea, I tend to overthink it and screw up when I'm doing my own idea.

[Anonymous No.2099916]

>>2099913
>I tend to overthink it and screw up when I'm doing my own idea.

then work on that? being able to come up with ideas that you are capable of is a skill personal to every artist.

This "roll for a paper thin concept" isn't going to help you improve. You should be writing ideas that you are capable of so that you can learn what you can and cannot execute on, and more importantly come up with ideas that you aren't currently capable of pulling off so you have something to push you forward and make you get better.

This is just lame.

[Anonymous No.2099919]

>>2099867
Perspective is not working at all. My attempt at a fix.

[Anonymous No.2099920]

>TFW I see so much talent in the draw threads and im so fucking shit

[Anonymous No.2099925]

I can't draw backgrounds well unfortunately... So I think this drawing is on hold until I finishing practicing up my scenery and whatnot.

Regardless, critique?

[Anonymous No.2099928]

>>2099916
That doesn't make any sense. The prompt only gives you a vague idea, you still come up with the idea of what it's going to look like or design the creature or whatever. And it's really hard to think of something you can't draw, if you're given a random prompt that you had no hand in, you're more likely to encounter something you're weak at.

[Anonymous No.2099933]

>>2099920
Anyone can learn to draw, but only few have the imagination and creativity to create truly inspiring drawings.

[Anonymous No.2099939]

>>2099933
I am concerned about the future of anyone who thinks anything in this thread is "truly inspiring"

[Anonymous No.2099942]

>>2099933
so youre saying I should give up

[Anonymous No.2099945]

>>2099928
I made the point I'm trying to make, I'd just like to say that, overall, in the list of things that are important to an illustration succeeding, character design is the least important early on. It is at least the easiest.

If you're illustration concept requires a lion it isn't hard to convey "This is a lion". If you get so caught up in character designing that you lose touch with writing good concepts, and instead just spend all your time drawing elaborate armor and fancy animals that convey specific emotions and that shit you have lost touch with what's important.

Someday when you're writing and concepts demand it, then you can start having pieces that require "I need a sad lion" or "I need a lion with a face like he's contemplating suicide" or something complicated like that, then it's okay because you are doing it out of necessity. But if you are just sitting around making stuff that isn't useful to your illustrations in the present you are wasting your time. Don't create designs you are never going to use. Be more efficient than that.

[Anonymous No.2099954]

>>2099945
>Don't create designs you are never going to use
Mm no, I disagree. You have to practice, and often that means going through throwaway exercises. Like how many pads of newsprint have you gone through with gestures and studies and sketches? It's the same thing if you want to do conceptual work, you have to exercise your ability to come up with an interesting piece out of a random prompt. Then by doing randomly generated ideas, you come across something you've never done before like a spaceship or something and you challenge yourself and learn more about how to draw that thing and become more well-rounded. Besides that it's just generally good for practicing drawing itself so you're more comfortable when you're given an actual assignment with pressure behind it.

[Anonymous No.2099955]

>>2099945
>I'd just like to say that, overall, in the list of things that are important to an illustration succeeding, character design is the least important early on.
If you're doing an illustration on a character, then the design is the most important part. Thinking of what the character is, is the first step. You're doing that before you even start to draw.

>If you get so caught up in character designing that you lose touch with writing good concepts
At this point I don't think you understand what you're writing anymore. If you're creating a character, you have to think of the concept.

>and instead just spend all your time drawing elaborate armor and fancy animals that convey specific emotions and that shit you have lost touch with what's important.
Important to what?

>But if you are just sitting around making stuff that isn't useful to your illustrations in the present you are wasting your time.
Doing anything other than studies is apparently useless according to you.

>Don't create designs you are never going to use. Be more efficient than that.
Literally anything you draw that is not going to be used for a bigger project is a waste of time, if your post is to be taking seriously. If that's the case, anybody that has ever drawn for fun and not toward some specific project, has been wasting their time. Why even draw?

All this because you can't fathom that maybe someone made the concept roll for fun. Head down to the towergirls thread and tell everyone their wasting their time. Fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.2099957]

>>2099427
anywhere i can see other art from you? i would like to see your pencil work if you have any

[Anonymous No.2099964]

>>2099955
>If you're doing an illustration on a character, then the design is the most important part. Thinking of what the character is, is the first step. You're doing that before you even start to draw.
sure. if the piece is just a standalone character design that's fine but there's a lot of people who just say "I'm gonna draw knight #356" on this board and never develop past that into more clever, meaningful design

>Important to what?
actually producing finished pieces

>Doing anything other than studies is apparently useless according to you.
If the studies are for an end goal. If you can't draw faces and you want to get better at drawing faces, then draw faces. But be learning to draw faces for the purposes of grander ideas. If you're brain is empty, and you are just mindlessly studying until you "git gud" and haven't been also spending your time developing good writing skills and concepts for when you "git gud" it's all been for nothing

>Literally anything you draw that is not going to be used for a bigger project is a waste of time, if your post is to be taking seriously. If that's the case, anybody that has ever drawn for fun and not toward some specific project, has been wasting their time. Why even draw?
Yes if you want to make successful pieces there should be a grander end goal for your work, even if you haven't thought up the idea yet. You should be preparing for when the idea comes. If you are just drawing for fun and to waste time, then sure just draw in your spare time cause you've got nothing else to do. Anything fun is a waste of time. That's why I play video games. It wastes time.

And yes that tower girls thread is just as lame. Same shit. that one is arguably worse because it just gives you a character design and you remake it but bigger.

If you're going to reply with "But you need to develop a style" I'm not going to respond to you.

[Anonymous No.2099965]

some teeth

[Sleezy~E No.2099967]

Any critiques? I'm trying to work faster in photoshop, and trying to get into doing commission works

[Anonymous No.2099970]

>>2099964
>If you're going to reply with "But you need to develop a style" I'm not going to respond to you.
Eh, I don't really understand where this came from. I just say draw. Your work will take a look of its own after enough time.

>but there's a lot of people who just say "I'm gonna draw knight #356" on this board and never develop past that into more clever, meaningful design
I don't see the problem with that. Some people just like to draw what they like to draw.

>and never develop past that into more clever, meaningful design
Elaborate. At what point are you drawing a "generic" knight and then start doing something grand, and meaningful. Also what would be "clever, meaningful design".


>Important to what?
>actually producing finished pieces
What if the finished piece was a knight?

>Yes if you want to make successful pieces there should be a grander end goal for your work
Why? Never heard of this.

>And yes that tower girls thread is just as lame. Same shit. that one is arguably worse because it just gives you a character design and you remake it but bigger.
People there are just drawing for fun.

[Anonymous No.2100034]

been trying to get this right for the past hour. Am I symbol drawing or what? Why can't I do this

[Anonymous No.2100042]

>>2099967
The anatomy looks amateurish to me

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.2100047]

.>>2098983
Could you elaborate on that?

I hope this is better

[Anonymous No.2100048]

[Anonymous No.2100059]

Well I think it's coming along.

[Anonymous No.2100060]

>>2100034
try tracing the picture and see what's off

[Anonymous No.2100096]

>>2100060
I honestly dont know why I haven't done that yet, thank you

[Anonymous No.2100102]

>>2100096
also after giving it a fresh look, I see that the eyes are terrible and the nose is too blocky. And the whole perspective is probably a bit off

[Anonymous No.2100111]

>>2098757
Brushes? Did you use Jamie Jones brush for this?

[Anonymous No.2100119]

hello friends
any tips for converting all this studying to being able to paint from imagination?

[Anonymous No.2100130]

>>2100119
Incorporate your studies as soon as possible into a work that's lightly referenced? I dunno

[Anonymous No.2100132]

>>2100119
try to draw something close to that pose from imagination, you'll see your flaws

[Anonymous No.2100138]

>>2100119
First draw something from imagination, note the areas you mess up, then you either
1) redraw the piece using reference
or
2) study those parts and redraw the piece from imagination

[Anonymous No.2100147]

>>2099957
Sorry don't really do pencils .I'm a digital fag.I find it more comfortable to just start with a value block-in rather than lines.The most I've done with lines is just gesture sketches and thumbnails

[Anonymous No.2100149]

most recent ... it tied in with another work

[Anonymous No.2100164]

that iconic washington portrait study

[Anonymous No.2100166]

>>2098732
I've been seeing firez post for like the past two years or whatever. he hasn't improved a lick. he paints the same 3/4 portraits from reference that he pastes huge eyes onto.

[Anonymous No.2100169]

>>2100034

left eye & eyebrow is higher than the right in the reference pic

you dont have a widows peak

your chin is not that wide or defined

the tip of your nose is wider in the reference

tracing the outlines of your cheekbones doesnt look real

[Anonymous No.2100170]

>>2100166
Yes and how much have you improved?
Better question, how does hating on him figure into your practice regiment?

[Anonymous No.2100173]

>>2100166
>paints the same 3/4 portraits
oh shieeet
is that a bad thing?
i like qt3.14 girls

[Anonymous No.2100180]

>>2100166

Just one of countless guys who think they are waaay better than they actually are and try to become /ic/'s idol by samefagging. If you've been around for a while you will have seen this pattern repeat itself over and over.

[Anonymous No.2100189]

Why do u ignore me ;( >>2099530

[Anonymous No.2100190]

>>2100173
Even worse than firez
Kek

[Anonymous No.2100191]

>>2100173
it's not, but you need catch a little bit more then just a head so it doesnt look like decapitated

[Anonymous No.2100193]

>>2100190
i mean firez might not be the best, but he's the best we got.

[Anonymous No.2100200]

>>2100193
>i mean firez might not be the best, but he's the best tripfag we got.

ftfy

[Anonymous No.2100217]

>>2100169
Thank you, but what do you mean by the outlines of the cheekbones not looking real? It's not a painting so I dont see whats wrong with defining it using lines. They werent traced btw

[Anonymous No.2100225]

>>2100193
That's not even remotely true.

FiRez pls go.

[Anonymous No.2100234]

>>2100173

Not a bad thing if you enjoy it. Her right eye looks a bit larger than her left though, you placed the rimlight on her lower right eyelid too low.

>>2100190

Looks better actually, nicer edge control and the brush texture is better utilized. If you're gonna talk shit then at least give some crit.

[Anonymous No.2100254]

Gonna leave it here for now. Still needs work but I'm feeling pretty good about it.
Hopefully I'm getting the angle down better.
I'm still trying to decide if he should be stepping on anything in particular.

[Anonymous No.2100288]

>>2099066

Working without lines is v fun

[Anonymous No.2100295]

>>2100119
did you just copy or did you try to create a method? use that method to create from imagination.

[Anonymous No.2100323]

>>2100288
I like the style

[Anonymous No.2100354]

>>2099882
might as well

[Anonymous No.2100359]

>>2100034
You don't understand the thing you're looking at.

[Anonymous No.2100453]

cleanin up this sketch of punisher, gonna try coloring it today

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.2100454]

>>2099939
you spoke too soon: >>2099967

[Anonymous No.2100459]

>>2100170
I have.
It doesn't. I hardly come here anymore.

[Anonymous No.2100464]

>>2100453
You actually draw stuff besides tanks and soldiers..?

[Anonymous No.2100497]

>>2100464
sure i do. i wish i could draw more tanks for u

[Anonymous No.2100499]

>>2100453
Man I always love it when you post here, but I also always forget your name. Sorry, but can you link to your tumblr again?

[Anonymous No.2100504]

>>2100464
I'm not him, but probably female nudes too, like everyone else
kek

[Anonymous No.2100506]

>>2100499
thanks man http://powderfingers.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2100509]

>>2100506
Ah thanks! Keep it up man!

[Anonymous No.2100542]

>>2100217

parts of the cheekbone should be lined by shadow, but you've just traced around the entire outside of them. There's not many situations where they would be that visible.

[Anonymous No.2100543]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09mI9wsm9k4

[Anonymous No.2100570]

>>2099882
Eh, I guess I could roll.

[Anonymous No.2100571]

[Anonymous No.2100586]

Any help with mech ?

[Anonymous No.2100587]

>>2098826
nice man! do you smudge or rather softbrush soft edges (like the transitions on the top left face or the clothes bottom-right)?

[Anonymous No.2100605]

>>2100586

Blow out the proportions on the the mechanical parts. You want to convey weight and power, otherwise it's just an android.

[Anonymous No.2100608]

>>2100119
draw a lot. Your painting skills will transfer over easily, it's being familiar enough with the forms and shapes that will give you problems.

Draw until your drawings are as good as your copies

[Anonymous No.2100610]

>>2098643
why no one ever draw/study males? legit question

[Anonymous No.2100611]

>>2099394
Left side is wayyy too dark, but the right side is gorgeous

[Anonymous No.2100614]

>>2100610

For me, I find that men are easier to draw than women. My analogy is that it is easier to draw a square than a circle.

Also, a pretty woman is almost universally aesthetic, whereas a pretty man can be alienating to a lot of people.

[Anonymous No.2100636]

>>2100610

i only draw/study males. people ask me wether i like the D more than the poon. i don't. but they don't believe me.

[Anonymous No.2100652]

>>2100614
>pretty woman is almost universally aesthetic

>2015

I wish I had a penis

[Anonymous No.2100665]

>>2100605
gotcha, thanks.
i think im gonna start with silouettes for this

[Anonymous No.2100684]

>>2100652
>>2015

>implying beauty changes as time passes

Go away you transvestite

[Anonymous No.2100781]

[Anonymous No.2100800]

>>2100614
>whereas a pretty man can be alienating to a lot of people.
Yes, and that's because handsome men are the universally aesthetic, not "pretty".

[Anonymous No.2100873]

[Anonymous No.2100920]

>>2100147
oh ok, you dont have a tumblr or instagram or some other place you post your art?

[Anonymous No.2100940]

>>2100571
It looks fine, but I'm confused as to why you seem to use so much texture brushes. Comes off as messy

[Anonymous No.2100945]

>>2100173
stop samefacing

[Anonymous No.2100964]

[Anonymous No.2100980]

Working on a character illustration for an online roleplay. got about an hour in a half in. Feel like I should raise her left arm so it's pointing in the distance instead of the ground.

[Anonymous No.2100986]

>>2098803
Those textures are awful awful.
Construction and colours are okay.

[Anonymous No.2100995]

>>2099100
It's no good, sir

>>2099350
why do people make these blurry ass pictures? do you have any idea what you're trying to make?

>>2099427
nice figures

[Anonymous No.2100999]

>>2100254
coming along. the face is v. nicely done, hopefully you can do the same with the rest.

[Anonymous No.2101012]

landscape and sky study
painted from photo

[Anonymous No.2101032]

Some of the stuff i streamed tonight
None of it is done, but it's kinda neat to jump back and forth

>>2101012
good job, looks fine!

>>2100149
nice loose lines, love it bruh

[Anonymous No.2101043]

Just working on thumbnails for a statue painting I wanna do...
Guess it's just a rough draft instead of a thumbnail lol.

[Anonymous No.2101047]

>>2101043
Lemme change that
damn phone making huge images

[Anonymous No.2101050]

>>2101032
Also, muh WIP

>>2101047
Looks good to me, let's see it on canvas

[Anonymous No.2101069]

Getting used to Photoshop instead of SAI. Came out of 'Fun with a pencil' and into 'Drawing the head', later finding out I'm supposed to go into anatomy first. Any glaring problems in my faces that I can fix? Resizing rekt the resolution.

[Anonymous No.2101099]

>>2101069
looks like you tend to draw skewed, try flipping the canvas every once in awhile

[Anonymous No.2101201]

can I get a crit on this i can't seem to get the pose right.
it looks really off to me and i'm having a hard time finding any good reference for a pose like this for some reason

[Anonymous No.2101213]

man im gettin faster at photoshop stuff, colored this in

[Anonymous No.2101218]

>>2101213
Looks kinda cool. I don't agree with your taste of the frame though. I would crop it so the sides are closer to his arms.

[Anonymous No.2101239]

Gonna try doing a background from scratch on this one, which I haven't done in years (literally)

[Anonymous No.2101248]

>>2100130
>>2100132
>>2100138
>>2100295
>>2100608
thanks guys i think ill tackle something from imagination tmr
here's today's study

[Anonymous No.2101252]

>>2101201
Okay I've tried to do a redline first but I'm really tired so I figured it'd be easier/more understandable to write what I had to point out. Hope it helps! Obviously, take time to study anatomy. People usually recommend Loomis but if I were you I'd look into Vilppu too

[Anonymous No.2101258]

>>2101252
>>2101201
Oh, forgot another thing, the right leg and foot look really off because you should really study joints and how bones and muscles are connected. Not understanding joints is where most problems with your drawing stem from

[Anonymous No.2101272]

>>2101213
He looks a bit unnaturally broad, open jackets behave differently, except his upper body is a rectangle.
Also the pose / angles of the arms are too 90°, seems stiff, mirrored and boring. Break it up a bit to bring in some dynamism.

[Anonymous No.2101306]

>>2101252
>>2101258
Thanks dude I actually download the Vilppu book the other day i guess it about time to start srsly studying from it

[Anonymous No.2101321]

>>2101218
ya, ur right about that for sure, compositionally lacking. thx also>>2101272 yeah he does have straight ol shitty arms

[Anonymous No.2101350]

>>2100920
there you go, buddy

http://rindoukan.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2101367]

>>2098770
Thanks for the critique I see what you mean about the nose

>>2099047
Thanks it's an oil painting. I use Gamblin mostly.

>>2100111
Not sure if troll but this is traditional anon. I use various sizes of flats and filberts. bristles to block in and synthetics to smooth things out.

[Anonymous No.2101372]

>>2099535

[Anonymous No.2101374]

>>2099535
As far as I feel like going with this one.

[Anonymous No.2101396]

>>2099939
Inspiration can come from anywhere... But you go right ahead shitting on everyone, it's the true sign of someone who'll never amount to anything.

[Anonymous No.2101412]

>>2101374
Colors on everything are really nice for the most part, I feel like some of the brown areas are kind of dull looking. The construction on everything is really lacking though. The perspective is off, anatomy is misshapen or just kind of glossed over. My recommendation would be to study up on constructing the figure and some drafting basics, it'll make your painting a lot stronger.

[Anonymous No.2101423]

>>2101374
Looks pretty good to me, definitely better than before. And you were gonna quit on it. Ha!

[Anonymous No.2101429]

Hey fags, I need some help.
How do i achieve more of a perspective and a more 3D look, especially on his head.
Any other criticism is also welcome.

[Anonymous No.2101448]

Doing this study, any Critique?

[Anonymous No.2101459]

>>2098662
>>2099244
>>2099558
>>2100048

Do you have tumblr, or some sort of blog?

[Anonymous No.2101472]

>>2101448
It's not finished. Don't ask for critique if your work is not finished. Also post reference because anatomy looks very off, so far.

[Anonymous No.2101479]

>>2101472

[Anonymous No.2101490]

>>2101479
So far, i can see that you have made her head too small, her shoulders too broad, and her hips too wide, relative to her waist. In general, it seems like you flattened her heightwise or stretched her horizontally.

Can't tell you anything about colour atm because it is not finished and I wouldn't know what is going to stay and what you are going to add.

[Anonymous No.2101494]

>>2101479
that pushup bra looks really uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.2101495]

>>2101490
thanks

[Anonymous No.2101520]

>>2101472
>Don't ask for critique if your work is not finished
Learning early and fixing is better imo. Why does it need to be finished?

[Anonymous No.2101535]

>>2101494

My dick thinks it looks fine.

[Anonymous No.2101567]

>>2101459
just google "nonerandomdraw"

[Anonymous No.2101571]

>>2101494
Obviously you've never worn one.

Any bra can be uncomfortable but when they fit you just right it's heavenly.

[Anonymous No.2101581]

>>2100047
Her eye and left cheekbone are sticking out too far. It seems like the upper part of her face and lower part of her face aren't aligned.

[Anonymous No.2101582]

>>2101571
is it like when you have a boner and you put it in your pants waist? feels good man.

[Anonymous No.2101589]

>>2101581
I would have done it kind of like this

[Anonymous No.2101682]

>>2098803

you've focusted so much on getting this wierd texture going that you've neglected everything else. Construction was wonky. Please try to understand that if you're going to make a realistic study like this anime eyes are just out of place. Some things just don't work and going against the current doesn't make you a messiah.Cheekbones and gawline is way off. Values also need some attention. Edges are one of your few tools at your disposal that can make your painting unique. Making everything have sharp edges is just flattening all the work you're trying to do to make it look 3d.
Lesson for you is stop trying to "make it" with gimmics. Just attain substantial knowledge of the basics.

[Anonymous No.2101703]

>>2101682

Listen to this guy Firez my dear

[Anonymous No.2101721]

>>2101682
gud/10 crit

[Anonymous No.2101731]

WIP- There's supposed to be wind coming from her left side so that's why the hair looks a bit weird for now.

[Anonymous No.2101750]

>>2101731
is she all flat also due to the wind?

there's only contrast between hair block, background and skintone, turn it into grayscale, there are not mid values

[Anonymous No.2101779]

>>2100999
Thank you, I've messed with the face a bit more and moved on to doing more with the body. I've decided I want him stepping on like some broken pieces of a colossus so I'm gonna have to redo the legs but that's ok, I think it'll be better for it in the end.

[Anonymous No.2101781]

>>2101731 thanks for the critique

[Anonymous No.2101783]

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[Anonymous No.2101813]

>>2101731
If you're going for the wind coming from her left you need something more like pic related.

At the moment it just looks like ghibli floaty hair, where the wind is coming up along her spine or something.

[Anonymous No.2101829]

>>2101779
I think the face looks too femenine

[Anonymous No.2101833]

>>2101829
I guess I could try to make him look more masculine but his face seems pretty soft to me

[Anonymous No.2101866]

I'm just not happy with the outer clothing and I just cant seem to see what it is! Perhaps I have been looking at it too long.

[Anonymous No.2102387]

>>2101783
I dig it. The color pallet is pretty drab and uninteresting. There are some places where you've added a range of color but could use more especially in whatever are the key focal points. Also whatever it's holding looks like a Hibachi wand.

[Anonymous No.2102563]

wip that i think i am done with, thoughts???

[Anonymous No.2102994]

>>2100610
Because it's gay. Seriously. I purposely only do male studies at home, what if someone started a gay rumor about me or something.

[Anonymous No.2103003]

>>2099882
roll

[Anonymous No.2103036]

>>2102994

lol this.