Questions thread

[Anonymous No.2083781]

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>>2067490

Ask all art related questions here that don't deserve their own thread.

[Anonymous No.2083798]

should I buy reference books today?

[Anonymous No.2083805]

Has anyone tried a contest thread?
Where there's a specific goal to draw like "dude on a cool motorcycle" and you have maybe a day to draw it then everyone posts results within 24 hours and anons vote on their favorites for the next 24 hours to declare a victor. I feel like that could be fun. Do you think it'd breed too much hostility?

[Anonymous No.2083814]

Why does this splotchiness happen and how can I get rid of it?

[Anonymous No.2083825]

>>2083805
Someone tried that with either a Character of the Week or a Creature of the Week prompt ripped straight from ca.org. AFAIK nobody really tried it out, plus there's no easy way to handle voting.

The prompts that seem to generate participation are some study threads, and things involving rolling for an assignment like those tower girl threads. Having a "victor" isn't necessary or easy to do around here.

[Anonymous No.2083827]

>>2083814
Try lowering your brush spacing?

[Anonymous No.2083832]

>>2083825
Aw. Yeah, even though I still think it'd be fun to add that competitive edge, the anonymity would make voting pretty suspect, even if you did strawpoll or something.
Oh well.

[Anonymous No.2083838]

>>2083832
IDK, I think activities are fun and we still might be able to have a successful thread in the future minus the voting. From what I've seen the sillier activities tend to bring out participation. Threads like 'draw this character in your own style' sometimes get posts.

[Anonymous No.2083840]

>>2083814

stop touching yourself at night

[Anonymous No.2083841]

>>2083827
I put it to 1%. Which is as low as it can get.

[Anonymous No.2083844]

I'm not knowledgeable at all in art but I'm a fan of De Chirico's surreal works.

I recently discovered Hopper and his painting have kind of the same feeling to them.

Is there a similarity in their painting techniques? I know there is a kind of "loneliness" theme in their work but it also feel visually similar. Is it the oil painting?

[Anonymous No.2083846]

>>2083841
Does it happen when you're working with a larger brush on a larger canvas? I noticed that you're zoomed in a lot.

Do you have dual brush disabled? Do you have color dynamics disabled? Do you have jitters for opacity and flow both on 0%?

[Anonymous No.2083847]

>>2083844

[Anonymous No.2083848]

>>2083847
Also the "Night on the galactic railroad" backgrounds make me think of it a lot too

[Anonymous No.2083852]

>>2083848

[Anonymous No.2083853]

What is an acceptable canvas size (pixels, HxW) for painting landscapes?

[Anonymous No.2083910]

>>2083846
>Does it happen when you're working with a larger brush on a larger canvas? I noticed that you're zoomed in a lot.
Yes but it happened with a small brush as well.

>Do you have dual brush disabled?
Yes

>Do you have color dynamics disabled?
Yes

>Do you have jitters for opacity and flow both on 0%?
Yes. I had to restart to fix the drivers and now I can't replicate my problem. Huh. However, I noticed that when I was having this problem the Opacity (but not the Flow) Jitter kept resetting to 0% if I set it to another number.

Problem fixed itself but preventive measures are always nice.

[Anonymous No.2083927]

anyone has some links to color recognition games and stuff like that? I can't find them anymore
only got this http://woodgears.ca/eyeball/

[Anonymous No.2083931]

>>2083910
>I had to restart to fix the drivers and now I can't replicate my problem
If the problem occurs frequently, then you'd want a clean install of the wacom drivers. This means deleting tablet preferences using the utility in the wacom install directory, then deleting every mention of tablet and wacom in the device manager, restarting, then installing the new driver.

If the problem is rare, there's a faster solution than a restart. You can close photoshop, run Services.msc (search for it from the start menu), and restart the wacom isd service (it could have a different name, or just a tablet related service).

[Anonymous No.2083933]

>>2083927
http://www.blendoku.com/

[Anonymous No.2083934]

Where the fuck do you buy a cintiq in the US

[Anonymous No.2083935]

>>2083934
You order it online.

[Anonymous No.2083936]

Any resources for gouache? I'm a complete beginner when it comes to traditional PAINTING.

[Anonymous No.2083938]

>>2083935
From? I don't see them anywhere.

[Anonymous No.2083942]

>>2083933
online and free, I thought that was obvious.

I found a couple :
http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge
http://color.method.ac/

[Anonymous No.2083950]

>>2083938
https://store.wacom.com/us/cintiq/

[Anonymous No.2083953]

>>2083950
Ah, I was here looking for a 'buy' button on the 27QHD earlier, only now do I see it says "coming soon"

Not really interested in the 22 inch one because it's just too small. Are these things always in short supply because of how damn expensive they are? I hope I still have money at the end of the month.

[Anonymous No.2083956]

>>2083953
22 inches is too small?

[Anonymous No.2083957]

>>2083847
how is that painting good?

[Anonymous No.2083959]

is directional lighting as important for painting as it is for drawing in studies?

[Anonymous No.2083960]

>>2083956
I was planning on getting the 24 inch one because I didn't know they stopped making it.

But yes, I wouldn't feel right if my other monitors were noticably bigger than my working surface. That's one of the things I'm trying to get away from with this (fuckhuge no matter how you look at it) purchase.

[Anonymous No.2083985]

watts or new masters?

[Anonymous No.2084010]

>>2083985
One month of NMA is more than enough to watch everything truly interesting there (basically Villpu and Huston). So it's not really a either/or kind of thing. Do both.

[Anonymous No.2084248]

>>2083781

Mac or PC?

What do you have? Does it work for you? What should I get?

[Anonymous No.2084534]

is there a problem with paint tool sai and windows 8 ? I've upgraded my computer recently and I have noticed some slow downs while I'm drawing, either for certain strokes or while undoing a stroke (which means it's not related to the tablet). After the slow down, I can do as many stroke or undo/redo as I want and it cause no problem but after a while it happens again, which is very annoying. I'm not too worried about it since I just placed the program in the SSD and the problem doesn't happen anymore, but still it's kind of annoying (my new computer can run the witcher 2 with no problem).

[Anonymous No.2084564]

can i somehow hotkey different keyboard keys to different preset brish sizes?

(and is it possible to have one key set the size for the active tool, or does the tool have to be linked to it?)

[Anonymous No.2084575]

>>2084248
Doesn't matter.

Pre-build Macs are always more expensive for no reason but brand name. Don't bother.

[Anonymous No.2084815]

I spent too much time on figure drawing and not enough on rendering. What are good resources? Who's the Vilppu of rendering?

[Anonymous No.2084818]

>>2084815
vilppu.

[Anonymous No.2084941]

Should I do the assignments in the sticky (Loomis, etc.) with the focus on speed or precision? Right now I'm mostly focused on precision, and taking my sweet time, but I feel like Its best just to speed through it, I guess? Or a mix of both?

[Anonymous No.2084948]

>>2084941
> with the focus on speed or precision?
Precision. You'll gain speed as you improve.

[Anonymous No.2084949]

>>2084815
Scott robertson

[Anonymous No.2084951]

>>2084534
>downgraded
>why doesnt old work better than new

[Anonymous No.2084952]

>>2084948
Thanks

[Anonymous No.2085159]

>>2084951
am I missing a windows 8 joke or something ? I'm saying my brand new computer have slow downs on sai while my 5 years old windows 7 computer didn't have any, even whenit was struggling for other reasons

[Anonymous No.2085223]

why is conte so expensive? what's so good about it? charcoal is cheap as shit

[Anonymous No.2085353]

Any good resources I should check out if I want to get into caricature?

>>2084534
From what I here, aside from it's screwed up interface, windows 8 is quite bloated. Combine that with the fact that you're using a program that was designed for a slightly different OS I really don't find it all that surprising that you're having these issues.

[Anonymous No.2085371]

>>2085159
Pretty sure he is, as W8 is terrible.

[Anonymous No.2085408]

>>2084564
*brush

[Anonymous No.2085435]

Do you have any tips for drawing clothes?

Should I be perfect at drawing nudes before trying clothes?

[Anonymous No.2085447]

Is Corel painter essentials 5 worth buying?
I've heard some good things about it and it is pretty cheap.

[Anonymous No.2085465]

>>2085371
why is he saying old then ? as bad as it is, it's pretty unarguable that windows 8 is newer than 7

[Anonymous No.2085496]

James Abbott McNeill Whistler is a really long name to say in conversation. Will people know who I'm talking about if I just say Whistler?

What about Caspar David Freidrich?

[Anonymous No.2085700]

how do i keep a painting from getting too muddy digitally

[Anonymous No.2085705]

>>2085700
Don't use burn and dodge tools to shade. Don't use black and white mixed with your base color to shade. Don't just increase or decrease the value of a color to shade. Learn how light of different colors affects objects of different colors. Learn about color theory.

[Anonymous No.2085793]

Is turd polishing ever useful? When I set out to do a sketch, if it starts to fall apart beyond what I can fix, is it worth it to keep working at it and try to continue to learn from my mistakes within that single piece? Or would it be better to set it aside and try again taking what I have learned? I'm talking about short term sketches (pic related) taking under 30minutes.

[Anonymous No.2085844]

>>2085793
Generally you want to fix mistakes as you spot them. If there mistakes aren't fixable, either start over or keep those mistakes in mind for the next piece.

>I'm talking about short term sketches (pic related) taking under 30minutes.
That's not turd polishing. It's impossible to polish anything in 30 minutes. In fact, it probably isn't possible to get to the point where you start polishing within the span of 30 minutes.

Turd polishing usually refers to when you spend time rendering, texturing, tweaking, polishing, etc. a painting or drawing that already has basal flaws.

[Anonymous No.2085863]

>>2085844
Thanks anon, the was helpful. I generally don't spend more than 2-3 hours on any given piece (not including exploratory sketching, thumbnailing etc). So it seems I'm getting ahead of myself and don't need to worry about this until I'm doing stuff that takes more time...

[Anonymous No.2085914]

Alright, so
Is it more beneficial to learn how to paint by beginning with Greyscale painting, then glazing over with colors?
Or just jump straight into colors and just slowly figuring the whole idea of color and light out?

I know for a fact that if the values are off, then it doesn't matter what the colors are, it'll look wrong. But I know that with Greyscale -> Color Glazing, paintings can tend to look muddy or dull.

Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2085930]

Does anyone have any links to loomis?

[Anonymous No.2085940]

>>2085930
Use the catalog function to search the whole board anon... also see

>>2065206

[Anonymous No.2085990]

>>2085914

I've honestly only just started to get the hang of colour from doing value paintings, for me having bad values was the main problem. greyscale - colour can look muddy if you don't approach it the right way, I use photoshop and initially my attempts looked muddy/ oversaturated and shitty. You will have to do a fair amount of actual painting over the top of your greyscale painting, you cant just use colour layers and expect it to look good. If you're using photoshop have a look at zedig's gumroad video that might be useful to you.

[Anonymous No.2085992]

>>2085914
Here's what I'd do:

1. Learn how to paint values.

2. Learn how to paint in monochrome. This doesn't mean the same hue and saturation. With traditional paints, you'd be making a palette by using black, white, a warm red and a cool red for example. You can do effectively the same thing in digital. You'll probably benefit from premixing your palette even when working digitally.

3. Learn to paint with limited palettes. Similar to the last step, but now you're slowly introducing new colors. Gurney has a lot of posts on gamut mapping that are relevant.
http://pastebin.com/rQ2EVg4J

4. Learn to paint without your palette being limited.

For each of the color stages, you want to jump straight into color instead of grayscale to color. You can learn grayscale to color techniques to speed up your workflow down the line, but they usually necessitate repainting most of the image after the color glazes.

For all of these exercises, you'll gain the most by painting from life (still lifes). It also wouldn't hurt to learn how color and light work both in the physical sense and in terms of color theory, designing your values, etc.

[Anonymous No.2086283]

SAI related questions :

What's the difference between a regular and lineart layer?

How do I change the color of everything that's in the layer to a set color? ( not hue & saturation filter, I mean like changing black lines to blue ones, literally a "color" option for everything that's in the layer )

And how to use the lasso/area select to move/rotate/scale on multiple layers? I've looked into it before and the idea was to throw everything in one folder, but often when trying to do that on the folder results in SAI telling me there's nothing in the selection area.

One button for drag zoom in/out exists in SAI?

[Anonymous No.2086301]

is the cintiq 13hd worth buying? if so, what 'type' of artist would it be appropriate for in terms of skill level

[Anonymous No.2086395]

>>2086283
1) just try it you'll see, lineart layer gives you different tools, basically it's vector-based drawing.

2) what I would do is make a layer on top in screen mode, paint it in the desired color and then merge it down (or set it on layer clip mode)

3) idk, never needed that

4) not sure what you mean, I can zoom in/out any time with the scroll wheel and drag using right click

[Anonymous No.2086571]

>>2086395

3) I usually keep on adding more and more layers since I'm so insecure... screwing up previous work that looks decent feels bad

4) in Manga Studio I used to have one button, after clicking it if i were to drag to the right, it would zoom in, if I drag to the left - zoom out, was wondering if there's something like this in SAI. It was really a marvelous option... I only have one spare button on my pen too. Swapping to my mouse is pretty annoying or sometimes I don't even zoom when I'm supposed to

[Anonymous No.2086585]

I need to get back into traditional work for portfolio reasons, but I'm having a hard time adjusting to acrylic when I'm used to the reworking digital painting, charcoal, and pastels give me. Would oil be a better suit for me? The last time I tried it, I was in junior year of HS and all my colors smeared together into an ugly mix so I'm feeling apprehensive. How do I start?

Also can I order oil paints and mediums and the other shit I need or is that a no go?

>tl;Dr: is oil better than acrylic, how do I start, and is it mailable?

[Anonymous No.2086603]

Is there a way to make my brush rotate while painting in photoshop cs5?

[Anonymous No.2086624]

>>2086571
Well, insecurity is something every artist should work on. As I see it, if you need to get lucky to get a result, then it isn't a result worth having.

Only way as far as I know is to put area/character layers in their own folder in advance, or copy paste the area from each layer then put them all in a folder, or merge all layers, copy, then undo to unmerge them and do with the copy/pasted selection.

[Anonymous No.2086659]

>>2086624

thanks

[Anonymous No.2086979]

>>2086603
its in the 'brush' panel. theres this oval crosshair looming symbol. play with that

[Anonymous No.2087114]

>>2086301
I've only heard good things about it. It's good if you want a non-portable drawing on screen option that isn't as pricey as the larger cintiqs.

I wouldn't buy one if you have very limited digital painting/drawing experience. If you already have a normal tablet and are used to it, you might see some improvement in your ability to draw digitally, but no improvement on painting ability from my experience with a wacom enabled tabletpc. Overall it makes painting and drawing digitally a funner experience IMO, but it's not as accurate as traditional tools due to parallax and lessened accuracy towards the edges of the screen.

If you can afford it and plan on using it a lot, then go for it. If it would put a dent in your wallet or if you don't see yourself using it nearly daily, then I wouldn't bother IMO.

[Anonymous No.2087160]

>>2087114
thanks for the input. do you think its an appropriate upgrade from an intuos small?

[Anonymous No.2087164]

>>2087160
If you're used to it, can afford the cintiq, and see yourself using it very often for a long time, then go for it. It'd see if you can first try out devices with an active digitizer screen in person first, so that you can get an idea of what the drawing experience would be like.

[Anonymous No.2087195]

is there a way in photoshop to dither an already existing gradient?

[Anonymous No.2087388]

So here my problem, I want to go to design school so the last few months i have been drawing non stop, literally from dusk till dawn, and i still though i wasn't doing enough, i gave up video games and cycling. Now my portfolio for Uni is finished and i made a ton of progress. But i instantly went back to sitting back and relax and i have zero motivation to draw because im thinking 'once im in school ill have to draw anyways so i might as well take it easy'. What are your guys experience with this sort of thing, i really thought once i get into the habit i will not stop. I feel bad about it, but not enough to pick up a pen. also i have been done for 4 days now and haven't drawn since. Im kinda scared that there is no hope for me if the 'drawing habit' has not caught on yet.

[Anonymous No.2087389]

Is it alright to practice drawing people from reference if I don't know how to draw 3d objects yet? I mean I'm practicing that, but I still want to draw people too.

[Anonymous No.2087396]

>>2087388
You did an extremely impressive amount of progress already, but this isn't a race. You have the rest of your life to improve at your craft. I suggest you draw as much as you want to, and every little bit counts.

For now I recommend you just doodle the things you really enjoy; don't give a shit about how it looks. I also suggest you set little goals for you each day. 10 minutes or so of a figure study or perspective practice. Little things.

>Im kinda scared that there is no hope for me if the 'drawing habit' has not caught on yet.

Hey, you feel bad. That suggests to me that you still care, and that's what matters most. The thing about habits is, they take time to set in. When did you start getting serious about drawing? You can't really start out working in 12+ hours a day if your mind isn't adjusted to that. Just work as much as you can each day, gradually increasing the time you draw.

PS: Take up cycling again. It's good for you man, exercise helps.

[Anonymous No.2087399]

>>2087389
Yes. You might have trouble with foreshortening but just get yourself some knowledge of a basic skeleton (look up some loomis) and general proportions, as well as places where s-curves and balances/counterbalances in the forms of the body appear. Do gesture drawings as a warm up first, try to get the entire pose down (place the head to the feet, as well as arms and hands) before going into any kind of detail. Big to small ideas with that. Go from sets of 30 sec - 1 min - 3 - 5 or whatever, always keeping the same process.

Break them down into shapes if you need to, you don't need to construct everything in a drawing. Construction is good for studying, good for foreshortening, and good when you don't know what the fuck is going on in a pose and need to work it out on paper. But you don't always need it for every part of your drawing. A lot of it can be done with just simple shapes (that's where you start from anyways)

[Anonymous No.2087429]

>>2087396
Thank you so much for this, helped me a lot!

[Anonymous No.2087435]

It's probably a common question, but what is the best way to learn?

I find myself doodling, sketching and when I start feeling like I should study, I'd rather jump between things. For example, couple days ago I told myself that I'm going to focus on drawing heads only. But few attempts later I'd be like " let's learn anatomy". I feel like there is some order to it, and a lot of times I can not get rid of the feeling that I'm doing things wrong..

Would it be more beneficial to me to stick to heads for now? Or do what I feel like doing and thing will eventually come together? / I'm planning on doing comics just for the fun of it, and maybe more serious later on/

[Anonymous No.2087592]

Best way to get into watercolors?

Any great books?

[Anonymous No.2087617]

>>2087388
4 days really isn't anything to get stressed over.
You can be at any stage in your art progression and just need to step back for a bit. That doesn't make you any less of an 'artist'.

In fact, getting immersed in non-art things can help you become more rounded and gain a richer perspective. I'd say it's crucial. People who focus on art to the exclusion of all other things, such as music, dance, conversation, in your case athletic pursuit, avoiding the very things that can enrich their work and give it a deeper and unique perspective.

> Im kinda scared that there is no hope for me if the 'drawing habit' has not caught on yet.
Come on. I understand you are young but only you know what's in your heart. How can this arbitrarily decide whether you 'have hope' or not. What I'm seeing is that you are looking to outside factors to decide whether you are 'worthy' of being an artist. Nip that in the bud, right now.

[Anonymous No.2087645]

>>2087435
anyone?

[Anonymous No.2087650]

>>2087435
>>2087645
First you have to know what you have to learn. For example, anatomy books don't always include the previous steps such as form/construction.

http://loomisloves.us/wiki/Beginner%27s_first_stop
http://loomisloves.us/wiki/Fundamentals

Once you know what you have to do, you just decide what way you approach it. Some people like to do studies until they are decent at everything, others like a more fluid approach of constantly asking themselves "I'm this good right now, what do I need to improve the most?" then working on that specific thing and going back to the question.

[Anonymous No.2087684]

>>2087650
Thank you! I'm still a beginner, and I was wondering if I should read " Keys to drawing" before "Drawing heads and hands" by Loomis. But I'm kind of impatient, I just want to jump to the fun part lol.

[Anonymous No.2087691]

>>2087684

Keys to Drawing would definitely come before that, Drawing the Head and Hands needs a bit of experience going into it. Keys is probably more fun too, IMO. Unless you're really excited about memorizing proportions and copying out plates ad nauseam.

[Anonymous No.2087708]

I actually started Drawing the Head and Hands,and I did memorize the plates of the face, but whenever I tried to shade the face, I could never get a decent head, somehow the end result just didn't make sense. And after that, I went through a 2 week burnout-ish state where I just didn't wanna draw at all. Now I'm back, and figured maybe I should really get down a solid foundation.

[Anonymous No.2087709]

>>2087708
>>2087691
Meant as a reply to You.

[Anonymous No.2087911]

>>2087592
http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/

[Anonymous No.2088056]

How I draw and create complicated and neat armors?

[Anonymous No.2088076]

Can someone share some tips on gesture drawing?

[Anonymous No.2088091]

>>2088076
Yes! What in particular do you want to know about or get help with? Or is it just that you want to get a general idea of it?

[Anonymous No.2088387]

Is there such a thing where I can color pick a photo and have it marked where it would appear on the color wheel?

[Anonymous No.2088392]

>>2086585
help

[Anonymous No.2088538]

>>2088056
This has a lot to do with design principals, like shape language and repletion. You will need to create a fictional design that looks like it could actually work. Create some kind of sci fi story (does not have to be complex, something like 'soldiers in a snowy environment and they have to have Armour that can withstand in this environment'). And last but not leas you will need to get a big visually library, this will probably take the longest time of them all.

Check out Anthony Jones and do research in Industrial Design

[Anonymous No.2088555]

I recently discovered that when I copy a picture from a drawing book, I dont "see" the picture im my mind wen i try to draw it on paper. Its more like i convert the picture to a set of instructions like :
"make a circle then draw a straight line from it and then draw XYZ 2cm below that..."
I made the same with these Loomis balls, I looked at one ball for 1-2 minutes, but when I tried to draw one of those simple balls I coundnt visualize them properly in my mind.
I mean those balls arent hard to draw ?! Am i too stupid for that ?
I know perspective, and i could reconstruct them using perspective, but at the end i want to draw the balls freehand without helping boxes and guidelines.
Is this normal ?

[Anonymous No.2088561]

How the hell do I make my portraits look better this shit is really frustrating.
>try to draw a girl
>do the whole construction shit
>get to the features
>it turns to complete anus

I just want to draw pretty girls mayne.

[Anonymous No.2088563]

>>2088561
post work

[Anonymous No.2088564]

>>2088561
Do figure drawings. Study from life. Look at womin's faces when you're out and try to see how their faces are constructed. What makes them differ from men by their face alone? Just evaluate girls mang

[Anonymous No.2088570]

>>2088563
Ignore the "hair"

[Anonymous No.2088610]

>>2088570
try doing your structural lines lighter. you're using tools for informal life studies, when working from your head it's much harder to build up structure so get some non-photo blue or red pencils to start with. do some skull studies. line up the orbs of the eye before drawing the eyelids. i attempted a red-line, but alas I am no professional. just keep trying!

[Anonymous No.2088632]

>>2083934
I bought mine at best buy

[Anonymous No.2088680]

>>2088570
You have construction but you didn't follow it. You just randomly placed features around the face. Especially eyes are on diffrent heights, too close and at diffrent angle. Remember that thanks to the construction you have CENTER of the form so you can mirror shapes, and also remember about parallel lines.

You must definetly draw a lot simple 3D shapes and connect them. Check out Vilppu book and videos about that.

[Anonymous No.2088723]

>>2088056

Lots of research, especially for historical ones, like this guy.

[Anonymous No.2088775]

how the hell do i start planning and executing a big drawing that needs refs and whatnot?

[Anonymous No.2088787]

>>2088775

Consider making a mind map. There is even a software to facilitate this, like FreeMind: http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download

It can even make mind map with files in directory.

[Anonymous No.2088788]

>>2088775
1. Iron out your idea. If you have a prompt, read it carefully. Try thinking outside the box a bit. Figure out what you want to show and how you want the viewer to feel about it.

2. Thumbnails. Figure out your composition, camera angle, and more at this stage. You can have thumbnails that only depict value shapes (value thumbnails), or even thumbnails that show gesture and movement. Do a dozen or so of them, and pick the best one.
More on thumbnails:
http://pastebin.com/fZM8NdBr

3. Once you've figured out the thumbnails for value, you can also figure out thumbnails for color at this stage (but this can also be done a little later if need be). Here you explore different palettes, lighting scenarios, etc until you have one that works.

4. Exploratory sketches. Try to figure out the individual components of your piece in more detail. Try to do your first sketches for individual parts without ref when possible, then consult refs to clarify. This is to avoid finding a ref and forcing that to work on your piece versus solidifying your own idea, then finding approximate refs to help you. Don't let what you can find on a google search dictate what you place on the canvas.

5. Optional studies. Very related to the last step, but if there's some aspect of the piece that really needs to be nailed perfectly, and you can't quite do it, do some studies to better equip you when it time to do the full piece.

6. Start the full piece. If you were working digitally, you can usually enlarge the thumbnail, mash in the best sketches, lower the opacity and use that as a guide for making a more refined drawing or block-in.

7. Refine the piece, consulting your old refs or any new ones where needed.

________

That's the super meticulous way to maximize your chances of success (or more minimize your chances of failure). The point is to plan everything out beforehand.

[Anonymous No.2088820]

Is going to an art school like SCAD worth it?

[Anonymous No.2088994]

>>2088538
I got his "designing with confidence" is it enough?

[Anonymous No.2089303]

>>2088994
Its a start, there are people who study this stuff in university, one video is just a fraction of the information.

[Anonymous No.2089693]

How do i develope a style for drawing faces? How do I learn to make it consistent, and learn to draw in that style a great range of emotions?

[Anonymous No.2089699]

>>2089693
not to be a dick but tbh if you have to ask yourself that question it's way too early for you to start trying to develop your own style

[Anonymous No.2089703]

>>2089693
Understand form and construction. If you are just guessing every time you start a new face, of course they're never gonna be consistent. If you have no concept of form, they're always gonna look flat.
Looking at real life emotions and analyzing what the features do.

[Anonymous No.2089711]

Is it useful to do these?

I want to spend the next 2 months doing oil studies of things, but I don't know what..

[Anonymous No.2089713]

>>2089693
I think of style as a way to manipulate what I know to express exactly what I want. It's about "what I want to say" instead of "what I think I should say"

Of course, knowledge is required before you hit that point where you can freely manipulate what you know. I don't think it's a big concern. It will just come to you as you study.

[Anonymous No.2089751]

>>2089711
>Is it useful to do these?
Only if you're doing them from references of some sort, preferably life. It's more helpful to first learn about what lighting effects you're observing and how to paint those lighting effects. Different materials basically mixes of lighting effects at different proportions.

Something like Schoolism's Advanced Lighting with Sam Neilson is great.

[Anonymous No.2090099]

is conceptart.org worth buying and doing intensively?

[Anonymous No.2090100]

>>2089711
They're great if you want to learn how to paint spheres of different materials on a white background.

[Anonymous No.2090379]

When studying from life, do you construct or just draw the lines?

[Anonymous No.2090381]

>>2090379
Constructing will teach you the most about form, but you can still check your work and place landmarks using 2D shape techniques.

[Anonymous No.2090603]

should the tip of this get used up? I've been using it and it seems one side is getting flatter

[Anonymous No.2090654]

What do you all think of this picture of crackychan ? I found it while I was at a used bookstore. I do not have the eye for pricing but is this really worth a 100 dollars?

[Anonymous No.2090727]

I remember seeing somewhere, probably here, lots of examples of 90s-style sort of nostalgic art. The style that was ubiquitous back then for software ads and all that jazz, you probably know what I mean.

What's the style called? Where can I find some examples? I found it really intriguing.

[Anonymous No.2090821]

Is there anywhere where I can talk to a professional artist? Or places that supply mentorships? I know that schoolism does it from time to timr, I'm curious if there are any other sources?


I've tried emailing my favorite artists just to "befriend" them...but no responses

[Anonymous No.2090847]

>>2090821
Dear Mr. Zhu,

I really like your artwork! But I don't want to talk about that right now :^). I really am e-mailing you so we can be friends! I know you must have never heard of me, but that's okay. It's my philosophy that friends who've met as strangers first, will become friends for a lifetime. Haha! Hope you e-mail me back, and that we can become pen pals! (Maybe you can even give me pointers on being an artist :D)

Sincerely a friend,
Anon

[Anonymous No.2090872]

>>2090603
Those pens in particular hold up pretty well, but it's a good idea to rotate them so you aren't drawing on the same side of the point all the time. If you use as little pressure as necessary, the tips should last longer than the ink supply. Smooth paper or bristol board helps too.

[Anonymous No.2090878]

>>2083814
I think this is why it's happening

All I'm doing is clicking in one spot

[Anonymous No.2090896]

What ballpoint pens does everyone use? I've got a bunch of them, but can never really settle on one. I'm currently using a 0.7mm Zebra F-301.

[Anonymous No.2090910]

How the fuck do you draw lips without them looking retarded especially in 3/4 view I just can't do it, I tried to put them on a sphere/cylinder and "feel" the form and it still looked like arse.

This shit is getting annoying tbh all I want to do is draw muh waifu lads.

[Anonymous No.2090945]

>>2090847
That's pretty much what I sent
But instead of Zhu it was
Mullins, Robertson, Parker, Rapoza, Kopinski, etc

I really wanted Mullins to respond too
My parents knew him while they were in Art Center...even taught my dad how to windsurf, haha

[Anonymous No.2090959]

>>2090910
First learn the major planes and the anatomy.

Then, draw them a lot from life and from masters. When drawing them from life, try to draw them from various angles and with different lighting directions. Stick to learning the neutral closed mouth first.

Once you can do that, repeat the same process with various expressions to learn more about that.

As a hint, the values and edges you use are very important. If you think of lips symbolically, that will blind you from observing plane changes and the edges that you should be using. The edges, especially around the contour, are generally a lot softer than what you might imagine.

[Anonymous No.2090979]

When I was a teenager I used to post on all sorts of art-, anime- and gamingforums and while I wrote some pretty cringeworthy shit I'm still kind of attached to the name I used to go under. Now that I'm getting somewhat decent at art I've started feeling anxious about keeping my name since the internet doesn't seem to understand the concept of time. I don't want to be lucky enough to be noticed as an artist, only to have potential employers or fans google my name and judge me based on that. On the other hand I'm thinking that that isn't a good enough reason to abandon a name that's been with me for a solid quarter of my life. I realize this must sound pretty silly, but I really don't know what to think about this.

[Anonymous No.2090993]

>>2090979
Paul Kwon went by Shiramune, once he got big he changed to Zeronis (Erotic Sin)

[Anonymous No.2091020]

Someone has a copy of "Elementary Art Or the Use of the Lead Pencil Advocated and Explained?"

[Anonymous No.2091039]

< this autism

How is mindless copying supposed to help you get good?

[Anonymous No.2091045]

>>2091039
Only if you use it at the right time for a specific purpose. Say you know your arms don't look quite right, or you want to understand how to make a style work. In those situations it makes sense to just mindlessly copy something related to the thing you are doing, and then trying to replicate it by yourself. In the gap between the two you will find what you are missing.

[Anonymous No.2091048]

>>2091039
because it isn't mindless

[Anonymous No.2091053]

>>2091039

>measuring the exact middle point with those wire things

genius, makes getting the correct proportions much easier.. but removes the art aspect of drawing

[Anonymous No.2091057]

>>2091053
They're students learning to observe and draw accurately, not how to make "art". Mechanical accuracy is a good preliminary skill to have. Speed talks about that a bit in the intro to Practice and Science of Drawing.

[Anonymous No.2091070]

Please help me!

I have an intuos pro 4 and after 1 hour of work my hand starts to hurt, specially my pinky finger, this never happens when I use a cintiq or do traditional drawing, why? can I fix this???

[Anonymous No.2091094]

>>2090979
People probably won't care.

>http://sinix.deviantart.com/journal/?offset=20

[Anonymous No.2091140]

>>2091094

>Errrr... I cannot take it. My world is just a big pool of books, movies, and art. I don't know what I am looking for, maybe just something to keep my mind moving away from thoughts of mass genocide. Time seems to be my major mind number.. there is soo much I cannot understand because of who I am. Limited knowledge depresses me like no other and the perversion of this planet makes me sick. I am not insane, but I seem to think I am. I can't close my eyes without picturing myself swinging an axe into some meaty chunk of flesh. I seem to be living my life in a whirl of extreme thoughts that never match. There is this one cute side of me who cares only about finding that right girl to spend all my time cuddling with and caring for, you know, a happily lil family.. the cute lil house, the nestled baby girl, the loving wife.... it seems right, but why do I still want to destroy existence? I guess it doesn't matter anyway, im too busy swimming in my non-literal pool. I've never hurt anyone, I've never kissed a girl. I seem to be a complete freak in most aspects. Oh well, back to contemplating time. Isn't time just the most interesting thing about a universe.


kek
Sinix being an angsty teen

[Anonymous No.2091154]

>>2091070
>intuos pro 4
>never happens when I use a cintiq or do traditional drawing

Pay attention to your grip, posture, etc, because clearly something is changing. Do you keep your tablet in front of your or off to the side? Are you choking your pen? Are you drawing with your shoulder+elbow or mostly wrist movement? Is your hand resting too hard on the tablet surface?

[Anonymous No.2091173]

>>2083781
Does financial aid apply for watts atelier online?

[Anonymous No.2091601]

How to fix shoelaces while doing lineart on SAI on a wacom? Is it natural? I though it was a photoshop problem which required lazy nezumi for fixing.

[Anonymous No.2091667]

Can any ruski bros or just anyone find a way of translating this page?

vk dot com
slash cds_ru

It has videos about rapid visual communication and dynamic sketching, but every fucking thing is in russian, and for some reason google translator won't translate the website texts when I click on the "translate this page" button.

[Anonymous No.2091994]

Is Krita any good? I'll try it out myself, but would like to know you opinion on the software.

[Anonymous No.2092261]

>>2091039
makes you lvl100 render-whore. then its up to you how you make use of the acquird skill

[Anonymous No.2092269]

>>2092261
you post your stuff so we can crush your spirit so we can rebuild you better, the crush you again and again, making you better with every new iteration until you became the based god.

[Anonymous No.2092344]

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=108&cp_id=10841&cs_id=1084101&p_id=5552&seq=1&format=2
I'm looking to get into drawing, is this a good graphics tablet for beginners? Is there any big disadvantages to smaller tablets? I'm fine with zooming in and out if that's the only real downside. Will this one work with Krita?

[Anonymous No.2092356]

>>2091994

>someone tells you it's shit
>you shy away from using it yourself and forming your own opinion
>you live your entire life without realizing that Krita could have been the silver bullet "thing" you needed to git gud

[Anonymous No.2092592]

could someone jot down from their experience their ways of gaining a fans/followers, I'm having trouble with that...
Thanks if you offered to help

[Anonymous No.2092644]

>>2092592
Depends on the platform, but the gist of it is you need a way for people to find you. One of the easiest ways to do that is through fan art, but stick to things that you're genuinely a fan of. People on tumblr or deviantart are more likely to search for "zelda" or "adventure time" than "guy in armor" and "still life".

If you follow a lot of people, you'll get at least a few follow-backs.

For things like tumblr, make sure you tag your posts smartly, using the more popular tags and not the super generic ones like "art". Use terms that people would search for. Also note that only the first 5 or so tags affect whether your piece comes up in search results.

There are also curated blogs that you can submit your art to. The turn around might be a couple of months for the bigger blogs, but you might be able to generate traffic that way.

Keep in mind that I'm pretty new to this self-promotion stuff, so a lot of what I'm saying is stuff I found out by asking around here.

[Anonymous No.2092652]

>>2092644
>Depends on the platform, but the gist of it is you need a way for people to find you
im not the anon who asked. but many artists have large followings without doing any fanart or celeb portraits. they create good art. do you think it's possible to gain a following while not (for lack of better phrase) selling out like that?

>There are also curated blogs that you can submit your art to.
can you name some?

[Anonymous No.2092657]

>>2092652
>do you think it's possible to gain a following while not (for lack of better phrase) selling out like that?
Absolutely. It will just take longer as people have to accidentally stumble across whatever it is you do. Fan art expedites the process because fans actively search for fan art.

>can you name some?
Names I've heard when I asked before were:

Art-related:
Tumblropenarts
EatSleepDraw
FuckYeahIllustrativeArt

Gaming fan art related:
nerdsandgamersftw
GameFreaksNZ
it8bit

I've never actually submitted to any of those yet, but in those usually have submission guidelines, and in the description somewhere you'd want to have a hyperlink to your tumblr. To my understanding work submitted to places like these are done as a new submission when it goes up as opposed to them just reblogging you. Because of that the curated version will likely get many more likes than yours on your own tumblr. This is why it's important to link back to your blog.

[Anonymous No.2092666]

>>2092652
>>2092657
I should also add:

It isn't really "selling out" if you're drawing things that you genuinely want to draw anyway. If you find yourself doodling variations of Ganondorf in your personal sketchbook that never sees the light of day, then you shouldn't feel bad for doing something a little more polished and posting it online.

You could try to chase trends if you really wanted to, but I don't think that's necessary and you might feel better about your online body of work by not doing that.

[Anonymous No.2092677]

>>2092657
>>2092666
thank you so much for writing that out. your answers are very helpful!

how about deviantart? i think it's gone down in quality over the years because of such a large userbase, but there are many good artists there. but it seems nigh impossible to get your work seen unless youve had an account for a long time and already have a following. i've seen so many pro artists with so little exposure its mindboggling. so im pretty sure that good work is not the only factor. does anyone have any tips?

[Anonymous No.2092760]

What's the equivalent of Loomis for landscape and buildings?

I really need these because figure drawing's pretty much the only thing people talked about over here and I could really use some help with background.

[Anonymous No.2092786]

>>2092677
I don't have any tips for deviantart, other than submitting your work to relevant groups, and possibly interacting with your fanbase. The fan art effect is probably stronger on deviantart than on tumblr for getting started. That is to say if you don't want to do fanart, you'll probably get noticed faster on tumblr.

To my understanding, deviantart has been on the decline in popularity. It's good to have your work on multiple platforms, but consider that deviantart is frequented by artists (both hobbyist and professional), whereas tumblr has a wider more diverse userbase. The reblogging system is an easy way to gain popularity if you're lucky and one of the popular users reblogs your stuff.

A lot of artists maintain a facebook, but I don't personally think it would help to gain popularity when starting out. Generally only people that already know of your work will find or look for your facebook. I do hear that instagram is on the rise in popularity among artists, but I don't know how that exposure compares to facebook, tumblr or deviantart.

[Anonymous No.2092811]

Is it normal to feel like I'm doing something mechanical? All I'm doing is worrying about how to draw a mouth or how to draw a specific line, or learning different head poses. I feel like my approach is too...science like. I see a lot of people drawing really creative stuff that's technically good too and that's what I want to do. I feel like I'll never be able to draw something creative and looks good at the same time

If it's relevant, Ive only gotten into drawing recently in the past year, I never drew when I was a kid. (19 now).

[Anonymous No.2092815]

>>2092356
don't be a prick mate. I just stated there, that I'll try it out myself.

[Anonymous No.2092835]

>>2092760
I am working through "On Drawing Trees and Nature. A Classic Victorian Manual with Lessons and Examples" (title of reprint) and it is pretty amazing so far. Don't know about architecture.

[Anonymous No.2092892]

I already feel retarded for asking, but in "Keys to Drawing", the third project is to draw a green pepper.I dont have one. Wouldn't a tomato be good as well?

The reason I'm asking is that prior to that, he had like 5 pictures of symbol and "real"' apples, and figured maybe he has a good reason( which I wouldn't know because I'm a beginner) to make me draw a green pepper. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.2092900]

>>2092892

Go out and buy a green pepper. That exercise won't work with a tomato.

[Anonymous No.2092922]

Should I practice freehand from Dynamic Sketching and Scott Robertson or should I learn how to perspective with tools first?

[Anonymous No.2092930]

>>2092644
>>2092652
>>2092666
Just want to say thank you for putting the time to help answer my questions, you're great.

[Anonymous No.2092935]

Where can I go to commission artists? If I commission the artist to make something, am I the only one legally entitled to the work once I pay for it? As in, they are unable to distribute it to others/use it for other projects/etc?

[Anonymous No.2092962]

>>2083781
Why draw with color pencils?

[Anonymous No.2092972]

What program is this, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.2092991]

>>2092786
those are some helpful and detailed answers. thank you so much!

[Anonymous No.2093003]

>>2092922

I'm not this anon, but I'm wondering if people are referring to the two Dynamic Sketching with Peter Han demo videos on YouTube when they refer to "Dynamic Sketching". Those two videos don't really cover that much, and I can't really find the full course anywhere.

[Anonymous No.2093006]

>>2092935
>am I the only one legally entitled to the work once I pay for it?
Depends on how rights are negotiated in the contract. If it's something like work for hire, then the client retains pretty much all rights. If this is a large, serious commission then you and/or the artist should have a solid understanding of your rights.

[Anonymous No.2093014]

How do you organize your drawings?

[Anonymous No.2093029]

>>2092972
Seconding this

[Anonymous No.2093031]

>>2093014
They all go in /home/anonymous/Pictures/mine . I use tags to add any info I'd need besides the title and modification date using Shotwell and XnView under Linux and Windows respectively.

[Anonymous No.2093047]

>>2092592
I only started my porn tumblr exactly 1 month ago and I've got 153 followers as of right now. People told me that's rather fast for a new blog so here's basically a compilation of what I did and I hope it could be of some help to you.
>Join a fandom. I'm already a horsefucker so I know all the ins and outs of the fandom. I know the central image database of the fandom (derpibooru) and I submit there
>I draw porn so right there, that's already a higher chance to get followed
>I also made a rather low skill story tumblr that is relevant to the fandom. The key here is low skill (I mean crappy art). That means it doesn't take much effort to maintain and it pulls in additional fans. http://dazzlequest.tumblr.com if you want to take a look at it.
>I also submit my shit to some porn rebloggers that are mostly relevant to the fandom but since I draw humanized porn I can submit to more general porn rebloggers
>I also recently made a hentai-foundry account and found out that gaining fans there is around 5x faster than it is in tumblr. It does have a skill requirement though
>I have a DA and submit to it too along with some of those groups but gaining fans there is pretty slow. It's also a huge hassle to keep submitting to like 15 groups for every piece you upload.
>I don't really follow/followback people on tumblr/DA/HF since I view it as a hassle and I avoid reblogs whenever I can. There are some exceptions though.
>As for fan interaction, I just talk to them as if I talk to people on 4chan, nothing fancy, sometimes I openly call a person a faggot. It's all cool.
I guess that's all the notable things I did. I hope that helped

[Anonymous No.2093049]

>>2093029
I asked the creator and it turned out be After Effects

[Anonymous No.2093050]

>>2093049
Cool. Thanks

[Anonymous No.2093071]

>>2093047
fandom + lewd art easily helps allot with getting noticed, thanks for the advice.
I see what you mean, so thanks for the info.

[Anonymous No.2093084]

What title with deep meaning would you give this?

[Anonymous No.2093108]

>>2092935
Here
>>2093006
I appreciate this feedback, but do you happen to have any suggestions on where I could potentially hire someone for some commissions? Small images, either traditional or pixel art (preferably pixel art though)

[Anonymous No.2093126]

So looking at painting videos and they mention that what's in shadow can't be as light as what's facing the light, and what's in the light can never be as dark as something in the shadow. Does it mean in the whole painting, or just for individual colors?

I ask because in a lot of illustrations I see lit black already darker than, let's say, a red cloth's shadow area. I can take guesses like the whole "black absorbs light" thing or people breaking the rules to create contrast, but I'd like something concrete.

[Anonymous No.2093369]

>>2083781
dumb question.. is it possible to import the Manga Studio Brushes to Photoshop?

[Anonymous No.2093388]

>>2093369
I would like to know this as well

[Anonymous No.2093415]

Does anyone know the artist of this picture? I've been searching forever but still can't get a name.

[Anonymous No.2093882]

>>2092835
Seems pretty useful, thanks mate!

[Anonymous No.2093894]

How do I study values?

[Anonymous No.2093905]

>>2093894
read up on light theory, master the concept of coreshadow and reflected light
study statues, busts etc

just remember to include edges, go over the form when painting and that reflected light is never as bright as the darkest mid tone

[Anonymous No.2093915]

Did 3 years of animation and realized that at the end of the day all I actually wanted to do was become an illustrator.

Are there any decent courses that don't charge you over $300k and still teach you shit that's actually valuable?

[Anonymous No.2093918]

>>2093915
read books and learn them?

[Anonymous No.2093927]

>>2093918

I guess self study and life drawing classes are the only way I'll make it without a boatload of cash after all.

[Anonymous No.2093945]

>>2093915
yeah, do it on your own.

mikkel sommer did about 2 years in the animation workshop in denmark and realized, it wasn't his medium either and became a comic book artist and an illustrator.

[Anonymous No.2093961]

>>2093945

great. I guess the slog'll be harder than normal, but I can always go to short courses if I feel like my skill is lacking in a specific area.

Thanks for the help.

[Anonymous No.2093977]

its completely cool for me to LOOK at other artwork, sketch it, maybe experiment and kitbash the hell out of parts from other sources, or am I being a huge faggot?

Drawing from imagination is fucking HARD. Please tell me I am not a huge faggot, anon.

[Anonymous No.2094016]

Can I draw with a pacer pen? I have pencils but half the time they break when I try to sharpen them, pacers seem more convenient.

Or is there something that makes Pacers not suitable for drawing?

[Anonymous No.2094019]

>>2093977

Its fine as long as you don't try pass it off as entirely yours.

[Anonymous No.2094022]

>>2094016

Is this a britbong thing?

Of course it's okay to draw with mechanical pencils, you just can't use the side of the exposed lead for large fills like you can with a wooden pencil.

[Anonymous No.2094024]

>>2094022
i'm australian

the reason why im asking is because last time i said i was using exercise book paper to draw which i thought would be 100% fine but someone then said that you should use normal printer paper at least because exercise book paper is too smooth for drawing so i switched

[Anonymous No.2094034]

>>2094022
Mechanical pencils are fine, like someone said before you just can't use the side for big fills.

If you like normal pencils though, look into clutch pencils. They don't break when you sharpen them, and they also don't get smaller.

[Anonymous No.2094048]

>>2093977

That's literally what all concept artists do when they tumbnail and research their ideas.
It's completely okay, just more as a way of solidifying any ideas you have about what you want to draw and maybe giving yourself a reference that you can draw from.

[Anonymous No.2094049]

>>2094024
>exercise book paper to draw

That shit is not only lined, but also very flimsy and smooth, which makes it sort of crappy for mechanical pencils which work better on harder surfaces.

If you're using HB leads I can see why someone would recommend you to switch to printer paper. Buy some 2B ones because they're softer and wont require as much effort to use.

[Anonymous No.2094055]

>>2094049
well i was just practicing on lined paper, nothing substantial.

and yeah i just had HB pencils lying around. I'm considering just getting a tablet because to be honest I don't like drawing with pencils. Eraser bits get all over my desk and i'm left handed so i get shit on my hand. I'm a bit of a clean freak so i go wash my hands before i touch my keyboard after drawing.

[Anonymous No.2094082]

Hey d/ic/ks, I dont think this warrants a new thread and you probably get this all the time so I'm asking here.

I'm a /tg/ guy and I always drooled over the artwork of the rulebooks and stuff (specially Frazetta, Erol Otus, Angus Mcbride, the Hildebrant brothers, Wayne Reynolds sucks dicks tho) and decided I finally want in, I wanna learn. I've been lurking your board for like a week now and what I've gathered so far is that Loomis is the be all end all of learning how to draw, even for an absolute begginer like me. Am I right or is the info on the sticky outdated or something?

Also, I've seen what most of you can draw and I figured you could answer me this with absolute, brutal honesty: assuming I put a real effort into it, can I really git gud at drawing if I learn by myself? Is 23 yo too old to get started?

Thanks m80s.

[Anonymous No.2094135]

>>2094082

it's never too late to get started, but you'll need to start from the most bare-bones shit if you want to git gud.

Start reading Loomis for basic anatomy, Hogarth and Matessi for how2dynamism (anything by Ryan woodward will be of use too), but above all else start practicing; draw circles, spheres, chubes, squares, use those to practice perspective, light and shadow, and don't forget to study the shit out of everything you don't know how to draw.

If you're getting stuck on realism, you can use grids to help you plot things out and measure distances.

We all start small, nigga, but ganbare and you can be as gud as a pro.

[Anonymous No.2094146]

>>2094082

Basically this >>2094135

Also, don't let "i'm not good enuff yet" stop you from drawing from what you want to draw. The artists that improve the fastest are the ones who try to draw something, fail at it, then study and practice the techniques and skills that failed them. That's a time tested method of improvement and you can't skip any of those steps.

[Anonymous No.2094154]

>>2094135
>>2094146
Gotcha, I'll get started with Loomis then, thanks. Also got a hold of one of those Drawing for Dummies books, is it shit?

[Anonymous No.2094654]

Can a beginner use this method to draw anatomy?

[Anonymous No.2094676]

Anyone know loli proportions? I keep getting the head too big.

[Anonymous No.2094769]

>>2094654
This is actually a really great starting point. This combined with some life sketching/gesture drawings and then moving on to more advanced anatomy is a perfectly acceptable starting point

[Anonymous No.2094775]

>>2094676
isn't that the point of loli? big heads

[Anonymous No.2094780]

>>2094775
That's chibi.

[Anonymous No.2094782]

>>2094676
I usually see about 5 to 6 heads tall in drawings.

[Anonymous No.2094809]

Why is it bad to use both graphite and charcoal together?

I can't draw lightly with charcoal if my life depended on it.

[Anonymous No.2094973]

>>2094769
Thank you very much man, I'm all excited to try it now!

[Anonymous No.2095087]

an anon directed me here
>be a part timer who's self teaching art
>still a beginner but know the basic fundamentals, just need to put them on paper properly
>want extra money
>look at some jobs online
>there's illustrating kid's books
>the most popular portfolios have drawings worse than mine

I'm really tempted to do this but are there any unseen consequences to this?

[Anonymous No.2095088]

>>2094809
Charcoal won't properly adhere to a surface with graphite already on it.
Although, I know that you can use graphite onto charcoal.

Doesn't mean that this post will stop you.

[Anonymous No.2095110]

How do I hype up myself to actually get a piece done?
I do a lot of sketchy things, but I have a very scarce amount of actual work that I can show off. It's hard for me to stay focused on one project. I'll find something interesting , then switch to that for a little bit.

Do any of you have this problem whete it's hard to get momentum on a project?

[Anonymous No.2095147]

>>2095110
>Do any of you have this problem where it's hard to get momentum on a project?

All the fucking time. Less now (since I'm trying to learn to finish shit), but finishing stuff and having finished pieces has always been hard.

What I've found useful is making small thumbs of stuff with light/colour information kinda already dialed in. If you're working from a sketch,same rule applies.
It also helps to work piece by piece instead of jumping around.

Most of the time I listen to music when I paint/draw, and it helps me blank out and get into 'the zone'. I think a lot of the problem is not being in 'the zone' long enough to have acceptable progress on a painting that makes someone jump from a thing to another thing. When difficulties pop up or you get bored, you can also be discouraged---which will make you go work on more sketching b/c it's faster to see something you might consider 'presentable'.

A good way to make yourself finish a piece is to have a clear idea of what you want out if it, hence the thumbnail; sometimes you have an idea, but it's not a //clear// idea and you're just kinda jumping around looking for a way to finish it--- so you focus on the 'interesting' parts, because they're the parts you might be completely sure about.

Anyway this is my suggestions//ideas on it; different things work for different people of course.

[Anonymous No.2095164]

Oh /ic/ please give me some advice. I'm making a video game and I've coded in the basics for it and now I'm at a point where I have to make some assets to implement and show off certain features but I don't have a good grasp on the basics and I'm scared I don't have enough time to learn them because I only have until the end of the year to finish this and then I won't be able to do anything fun for awhile due to certain circumstances and I would really like to finish this before then.

What would you suppose is a good schedule for learning while working on a project? I already know about all the good recommended art books like the animator's survival guide, loomis, vilppu, hampton, and bridgman.

[Anonymous No.2095193]

>>2095110
Even professionals say that the rendering stage is boring. Just put on a movie or funky music & slog through it.

[Anonymous No.2095195]

I want to learn how to draw over summer. I've tried to draw myself and follow books, but I haven't been able to do it for more than 1 week.

I've been searching for local art places to teach me, but that shit is 50$ a lesson.

How do I make it a habit to draw?

[Anonymous No.2095197]

>>2095195
Get a sketchbook and draw in it 10 minutes a day, before midday, doesn't matter what you draw.

[Anonymous No.2095220]

>>2095197
this, then slowly add hours to it.
I made it from 1 hour a day to 6 hours a day this way.

[Anonymous No.2095318]

>>2095164
>What would you suppose is a good schedule for learning while working on a project?

Check out the Pomodoro Technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique

I can't really tell you to do something for x hours and move on, but the above wiki and the pdf in the references should help you plan and keep track of whatever you decide to focus on.

[Anonymous No.2095672]

I found a surface pro 2 for $335 on Amazon and I'm trying to get into digital drawing with a tab. My current Acer tablet sucks at it. Is it a good idea?

[Anonymous No.2095945]

>>2095197
>before midday
not that anon, thats really good advice in general. Waking up and drawing is better and easier to get hours in than waiting until the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.2095955]

How do i make accurate observational drawings from beginning to end? i can't find any books on this.

[Anonymous No.2096104]

Can anyone tell me the artist of this? This is not the original but only a redone image on my end because I screenshot the original picture from a manga I forgot.

[Anonymous No.2096109]

>>2088555
this.

[Anonymous No.2096115]

>>2095955
use your pencil for measuring the angles of the contour and have a lot of patience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM

[Anonymous No.2096116]

>>2088555
You just have to try to visualize it. You might need to take a break and just look at things.

I mean, I barely drew anything for a whole month.
I was expecting to be shit when I returned, but I was surprised at how much anatomy I could actually visualize.

[Anonymous No.2096207]

>>2083781
Hi, I've got a question.

I use MyPaint and I like it a lot, but it has a huge flaw: it doesn't have a selection tool or anything that allows you to resize or rotate a part of your drawing.

Could you suggest me some program for ubuntu that does that so I can export the drawing, change things, and go back to MyPaint?

I heard Krita is pretty good but it's kinda too heavy for my crappy computer... anyways, thanks and sorry for my also crappy english.

[Anonymous No.2096238]

How do I get into surrealism?

[Anonymous No.2096318]

>>2096207
mypaint focuses around a "traditional drawing experience", so it doesn't have stuff like selections. If you want a more digital workflow, krita is what you want.

[Anonymous No.2096328]

For those of you familiar with streaming, what would you consider the bare minimum in terms of stream quality? Resolution, framerate, bitrate, etc.

I've got a pretty terrible net connection and want to know if its something even worth attempting.

[Anonymous No.2096339]

>>2096328
Nothing will come of it unless you already have a fan base.

[Anonymous No.2096388]

>>2096339

I realize this. I'm not looking to create a fan base through streaming.

[Anonymous No.2096488]

does anybody have any experience mounting ceramic tile art on walls? i made these last night and I am interested in hanging them in a non-permanent fashion. i dont know whether to somehow hang them individually or to mount them all onto some kind of backing and then mount that on the wall. and I don't really know what materials to use for either approach either.

[Anonymous No.2097576]

I got a note on dA of someone who wants to use my art in a book, this is all they really said: "We would only ask that you sign a waiver allowing us to publish your work, however all rights would remain with you and we would not reproduce without your explicit consent."

What kind of questions should I ask them to make sure I don't get fucked over in some way? Should I ask for some sort of royalty?

[Anonymous No.2097582]

Can you tell me good books to learn drawing? not only figure drawing, about everyshit.

[Anonymous No.2097602]

why is my zoom in/out strokes not working like they usually do in ps5?

it used to be alt+pen buttom+left/right swipe with the stylus and it would zoom in and out depending on the direction. now it just makes some window and zooms out no matter what

[Anonymous No.2097617]

>>2096328
>terrible net

Nope, you need a 1080p stream for people to even give two shits these days.
Also for an art stream you would need clear sound and high resolution, otherwise what you're drawing will look like shit.

[Anonymous No.2097936]

>>2095087
I'm pretty sure the only thing that can have a negative impact on your (possibly future) portfolio is pornography

[Anonymous No.2098260]

Okay even with this guide, I am still stuck on this Rapid Viz exercise. Like, I don't even know what it's asking of me. What do these numbers mean, and how do they relate with the relative size of the cube or diagonals?

I'm missing something big, but what?

[Anonymous No.2098278]

Is there anyone out there making digital art that actually looks like traditional art?
I dislike the overly clean look of digital art.

[Anonymous No.2098308]

>>2098278
digital doesn't imply clean or vectorized. you get it all wrong. lurk more.

also, digital trying to look like traditional is the lamest, most retarded thing ever.

[Anonymous No.2098326]

Does anyone have a pdf for keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.2098376]

>>2098326
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=052df4e4a0a7f28be04780457b0a0dbb
>>2098278
http://demonui.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://catbib.deviantart.com/
http://marcobucci.deviantart.com/
http://artbytheo.deviantart.com/ maybe?
http://andrewtheo.com/illustration/ (getting there)
http://paperblue.net/Gallary_001/15594 (some of it more painterly and loose than others)
http://www.artpad.org/gallery/portfolio/ (Jaime Jones. Shame he took off a lot of his art, you should google for it)
http://www.goodbrush.com/finished-sketches/ you may or may not like his stuff

[Anonymous No.2098426]

This thread needs more stupid questions. So, I wanna draw some concepts of cool big badass monsters (pic-rel.), demons/dragons and stuff. I already know how to paint and render well, but I've never did something like that. So I wonder, if there's any books, videos, etc that can help me? dunno something like "DRAWING BIG BADASS CREATURES"
no I'm not a furry

[Anonymous No.2098436]

>>2098426
>>2097177

[Anonymous No.2098460]

>>2098376
Thank you you are kind

[Anonymous No.2098527]

Finally finished Keys to Drawing, what book/video/whatever should i move onto next? Dynamic Sketching? Scott Robertson? RapidViz? Vilppu? Loomis? What?

[Anonymous No.2098629]

How do you guys go about studying other artists?

My teachers gave me a list of artists I should look at and should study in order for me to create my own dialogue between the audience and myself.

Is there a method in the madness or do you just look at what they've done then move on to the next?

[Anonymous No.2098680]

>>2092972
Who's the artiste?

[Anonymous No.2098719]

>>2096318
Yeah, but I wanna keep using MyPaint. Also Krita is way too advanced, I only need something to rotate a part of a sketch or stuf like that...

Just found a program called Pinta that is more like what I was looking for. Thanks for replying, though!

[Anonymous No.2098748]

Why the fuck is anime style so hard to draw? I just started with Loomis and am working on faces; which I am doing alright at. Then I tried to draw anime style for kicks and it's so goddamn hard.

the eyes are too big and nothing's proportional what the fuck? It's like torture going against normal proportions. What if I want to draw stylized shit later, then what?

[Anonymous No.2098791]

>>2098748
copy anime screenshots first that you like. try to break down the scenes and then use what you learned in loomis on them. for example, let's say there's a scene from madoka magica you like. Let's say it's when mami gets her head eaten lol
so you could figure out where the head is, see the perspective and figure out why her body looks like that when she is looking up

eyes are still usually one eye apart. the eye that is farther apart (3/4th view) is smaller in width, but not in height. etc. this is stuff you should learn in loomis. it will help you.

also
gesture when you can, or at least for animated stuff. Especially if you're planning on having characters doing fighting scenes.

[Anonymous No.2098794]

>>2098748
Because it breaks rules.

The trick is to copy a bunch to get the idea, then try to draw your own.

[Anonymous No.2098805]

So uh why isn't the major axis important when drawing ellipses again? i really didn't understand scotty.

[Anonymous No.2098832]

>>2098805
The major isn't "not important", just not needed. The minor lines up with the axle of the wheel, and the major is perpendicular to that.

[Anonymous No.2099002]

Not sure if I'm starting to develop carpel tunnel or something else.
Late I've been getting more and more numb in my Thumb, index and middle finger (the ones I hold my pencil with).
Today it has gotten to the point where just using a spray annoys my muscles when I push down with the index finger.

Anyone know any of this?
Doctor or simply just take some days off without drawing?

[Anonymous No.2099008]

>>2099002
You are so fucked.

[Anonymous No.2099010]

>>2099002
I had a similar issue a while ago.

Rest is a must, if you can afford to/have medicare then go see a GP and they'll probably get you to take some xrays and an ultrasound for your wrist. They'll probably recommend you take something antiinflammatorys and stop overworking it.

Get well soon Anon! Days off is a must.

[Anonymous No.2099044]

>>2099002
Stretch your hands; guy in jail who worked in a factory taught me how.

> GENTLY pull your fingers back, just until you feel them tug, and hold for a minute.

> Repeat this daily, often, take breaks as needed.

[Anonymous No.2099685]

>>2099002
Numbness can point to nerve damage, probably caused by poor form/posture.
The best way to cure it is to simply let the hand rest, and making sure you're not blocking off any nerves when resting it on something.
Maybe get a (different) wristpad?
This is usually a more common problem with thin people because they have less fat to protect their nerves.

If you recognize yourself in some of the things I mentioned, know that the numbness is one of the last things to go away while the nerve heals.
If you continue doing what you're doing, you're going to lose motor skills and potentially cause irreparable damage.

[Anonymous No.2099813]

Kind of a different question:
How could I mount a newsprint pad to a wall?
I'm having trouble figuring out how to make it sit so that it is relatively flat (or a little angled) against the wall....

I've also considered buying a giant roll of paper and attach it to some sort of roll, kind of like a toilet paper holder, except that I would just tape it to the wall when I want to draw....but this way is more expensive than purchasing a newsprint pad.

Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.2099861]

Can art just be random?

I don't mean borderline random or Absurdism. I mean random. Juxtapositions that cannot be explained or evaluated by "artists" who give it meaning. Just pure random.

[Anonymous No.2099906]

Any tips on painting Half Tones (aka Mid Tones, aka Local Color)??

[Anonymous No.2099932]

>>2099813
any particular reason it needs to be against the wall? this is a cheap option if you don't want to shell out for an easel (pic related), sit in a chair and lean it against the wall.

[Anonymous No.2099935]

>>2099861
some people would argue that certain abstract artist's works are in fact just that.

>art is whatever you think it is anon, the key to becoming popular / making it etc is to be able to convince other people to agree with you

[Anonymous No.2099937]

>>2099861
Sure. A lot of the time it's random. Why do we draw the things we draw? I sure can't answer that.

Though you should at least some of the time try to create value with your work. What is valuable to you is up to you to decide.

[Anonymous No.2100212]

will learning to draw with my non-dominant hand improve my drawing ability and has anyone actually done it?

[Anonymous No.2100215]

>>2098527
vilppu drawing manual. i'm working through it for the first time now and it's almost transformative for my anatomy

[Anonymous No.2100423]

>>2100212

Not that I can tell, I can't draw for shit but I'm decent with my dominant hand.

[Anonymous No.2100425]

>>2100212

Nah. I haven't but I don't see how it wouldn't be a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.2100645]

Beside canvas and wood panel in what other supports can I work oils?
Are there any methods to make oils dry faster?

[Anonymous No.2100797]

What construction method is this?

[Anonymous No.2101052]

I want to start using Copic markers, which set and type of paper should I get to start with? I was thinking of getting the Copic Sketch Set - Sketching Grays since I'm not doing color anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.2101244]

I see people use red and blue pencils for their underdrawings all the time and I want in on that. Which brands are good?

[Anonymous No.2101281]

>>2100645
you can put oils on anything that doesn't absorb oil, and even then you can put a few coats of gesso on it and it'll work. i've used pizza boxes (we were all pretentious once) and they're a few years old now and there hasn't been any decay.

paper works too. the main thing with oil paint is that it you don't let it get flexed a lot over time, but even then it's cool for at least a year, so if you use something floppy make sure you store it well.

yep, you can change how fast oils dry with the medium you use, which is a mix of oil and a solvent. the very fasted will still take about 24 hours for a thinnish layer to get dry to the touch. a medium is a mix of oil and a solvent you use for thinning the oil paints fyi, you can get premixed ones that are pretty good. galkyd etc.

[Anonymous No.2101286]

>>2100797
a bad one

[Anonymous No.2101307]

Anyone know how to replace the surface on the Wacom Intuos Pro Pen and Touch Medium (PTH651)?

[Anonymous No.2101324]

>>2101244
not pentel. their blue mechanical pencils break if you breathe too heavily.

[Anonymous No.2101331]

>>2101324
I don't use their pencils (didn't even know they had blue pencils?), but I use their blue 0.5 lead and it's pretty much the best you can get. It is more fragile than your typical lead, but that's really the nature of the lead. Also harder to erase, but that's a given.

Fuck their red lead though.

[Anonymous No.2101343]

>>2093084
Fucking useless

[Anonymous No.2101422]

Hey guys
Recommend me some good mech artist

[Anonymous No.2101548]

Guys, is there more from Peter Han? He seems to be that authoritarian teacher I never had but really need ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk&list=PLY87GPNHRZzThGePdE-29CqAMTonoSOqa

[Anonymous No.2101577]

>>2101331
Are the blue ones softer than their 4B leads? I use the 4B leads and nothing broke yet. What is bad about the red ones?

[Anonymous No.2101606]

This question seems to have disappeared or I have posted it in the wrong thread, so I am asking again:

Has anyone experience with fixing pencil drawings by first cleaning them in a tub of hot water and then using milk/some other weird stuff to fix them?

[Anonymous No.2102075]

>>2101281
That's cool.
I wanted to paint comics but I felt like canvases were not a good idea.
If I paint a page while the other dries I can put a page a day or each two days.

[Anonymous No.2102195]

>>2098260
i guess something like the 6th cube would be 4x4x3 instead of 100x100x75

[Anonymous No.2102231]

Howdy Howdy Howdy, I'm trying to cut down on redundancy in my work. I've been told I tend to over render background and non focal point details by others. Not only does this hurt the composition but it also wastes my time. So my question:

Do you fellas have any compositional tips or rules of thumb you use to determine how much rendering you'll need? How do you deal with out of focus objects and the level of rendering to add to far away objects? I hope that makes sense. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2102305]

>>2102231
You render the important stuff as much as you like, and leave everything else just enough to be readable.

[Anonymous No.2102491]

What does /3/ think of Sakimichan's work?

[Anonymous No.2102500]

>>2102491
IMO they are technically excellent, but don't really have much character or storytelling to them. I'd personally prefer something that looked half or a quarter as good but is more interesting.

But then, maybe I'm not into the stuff she makes fanart of enough.

[Anonymous No.2102503]

>>2092815
I use it for practically everything these days, so there you go. You'll figure out whether it works for you or not.

Also, make sure to get the latest version from their official website, don't download from some shady adware-laden website.

[Anonymous No.2102630]

>>2102491
IDK why everyone here hates her. Her work is fun to look at...but that's about it. Shallow, but nice technical skill.

Good for fapping too

[Anonymous No.2102637]

>>2102491
i love her stuff she's my favorite artist with kr0n

i hate her new stuff tho, to the point i had to unfollow her ass everywhere

[Anonymous No.2102745]

>>2102630
>>2102500
>they are technically excellent
>nice technical skill

Her are is bad though. Not /ic/ level bad of course but it's pretty sad if you think this is "excellent". Your standards are very very low.

[Anonymous No.2102783]

>>2102745
Not those two, but she definitely has technical skill.

Just that majority of her works are obviously rushed. They're done in a day or so.

[Anonymous No.2102819]

>>2102783
>They're done in a day or so
if something like >>2102491 was done in a day, then that's pretty impressive

>>2101548
a student of his hosts a tutorial website called drawabox.com

[Anonymous No.2102845]

>>2102745
Sounds like you're just regurgitating other peoples uninformed opinions.

You didn't even give any reasons why you think her art is not technically excellent.

Do you think the colorchoices are bad? Do you think the proportions are off? Do you think the poses are too stiff? Do you think the perspective is off? Do you think the paint is not detailed enough?

Didn't think so, because she's pretty solid if not excellent on all those.

Do a redline/drawover if you want to be taken seriously

[Anonymous No.2103551]

Would a pentel pocket brush pen leak on an airplane? I'm concerned that the air pressure would force the ink to leak out. Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.2103594]

Are there any particular tutorials/courses/videos either in the sticky or elsewhere that I should study, focus on to achieve the rendering like in pic related?

I've recently have started to get the hang of drawing figures and now I'd like to start learning how to color them.

[Anonymous No.2103600]

>>2103551
Any big changes in air pressure always seem to cause any of my drawing pens to explode into their caps, so I wouldn't recommend taking it with you.

[Anonymous No.2103733]

How would you color inked drawings traditionally?
Not interested in markers. I've tried gouache but it covered up the inks, probably because I used them wrong or something. Any tips? What paints do you use?

[Anonymous No.2103825]

>>2103594
Not exactly a tutorial, video or anything but the style that TF2 was inspired by was JC Leyendecker. You could probably study that guy's work to get a better understanding of the style you want to achieve.

[Anonymous No.2104161]

>>2102819
Thank you, anon!

[Anonymous No.2104548]

/3/ here, anybody know where to dl picrelated? I need something like krita but I'm not really willing to sit through the attrocious tutorials it has for free.

[Anonymous No.2104869]

how do you motivate yourself to finish something even tough you know for certain it won´t look like you want it to?

[Anonymous No.2105096]

>>2101422
Nothing?

[Anonymous No.2105156]

>>2104548
Fuck software-specific tutorials, just figure things out as you go. Painting software is not rocket-science. Watch the odd tutorial here and there to learn new tricks (e.g. the ones by David Revoy), hang out in the forum/IRC/deviantart/whatever community for the software you're using, and you're good.

[Anonymous No.2105470]

Don't die on me thread!

>>2103825
I'll definitely give him a look, thanks!