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[Anonymous No.2082618]

Basic Color Exercises:
I studied animation in school and didn't focus so much on color theory / rendering.

A few years have passed and I want to get back into painting. Any illustrators/painters out there have any suggestions for improving my colour sense?

In exchange if anyone wants advice on perspective or figure drawing, I'm pretty solid with that.

im trying to get better at using more colors, i tent to favour some colors and neglect the rest. changing temperatures and saturation is still a bit of a guessing game for me....harmonizing my images with color is still needing improvements.

[Anonymous No.2082623]

>>2082618
Learning what the actual primaries are is a good place to start.

[Anonymous No.2082629]

>>2082618
this is what I have, cheers

[Anonymous No.2082637]

>>2082629
Infographics like this are infuriating to me.
They clearly looked it up on Wikipedia long enough to learn about additive and subtractive primaries, and then they just totally ignore that information and base their whole design around the shit they learned in elementary school.

[Anonymous No.2082769]

>>2082623
Subtractive vs additive. If you're painting, using inks, RBY is the correct model. If dealing with light RGB is your model.

You're both right in different contexts. Just don't believe your monitor can represent a full chroma blue just because the third byte of your 24bit color value is set to 0xFF. Because that's wrong.

Also RGB is the new primaries. Noticed this with playground equipment colourschemes. Older gear is RBY themed, new is RGB.

[Anonymous No.2082809]

What media are you using?
Do still lifes and landscapes, harmonize your colors with the theory you have and then (If you are using trad media) see what pigments work and try to mix them for a larger palette, for example I don't use Gray made with Black and White, I use Gray made mixing complementaries because I already had them on my palette.

Anyway check out these pics about color I took, the source adress on the corner has LOTS of information about color

[Anonymous No.2082812]

>>2082809
This' the other image I have. This guy's site really blew my minf about color.

[Anonymous No.2082825]

Check out the smartphone app "Blendoku", it's a game where you match tones and colors. Very good practice

[Anonymous No.2082860]

>>2082809
Man, I was going to do something tonight. Now I'm on that fucking site and all these colors are FUCKKKKKKKK.

(Thank you!)

[Anonymous No.2082887]

[Anonymous No.2082908]

>>2082860
You didn't answer my question.
Do you work with digital or traditional? if you are working with traditional fuck the peolple who says the paper's white is enough, white watercolor or white colored pencils are extreamly important to archive tints.

[Anonymous No.2082957]

>>2082769
That's wrong though. RBY kind of works for paint, but not very well. Process CYMK is much, much more accurate for painting. Painters sticking staunchly to RBY have to use 2 variants of each color for mixing, and even then they need to just buy magenta/purple if they want to have any kind of brightness there.

[Anonymous No.2082958]

>>2082957
>>2082769
What's more, when it comes to things like complementary colors, if we're to assume such things are inherently beautiful, modern color models more accurately predict color negatives as seen in after-images in our eyes.

Basically the only reason to use RBY is if you don't know any better, or if you want to reference that particular out-of-date model for some reason.

[Anonymous No.2082980]

>>2082887
just wanted to post this tut, fine work anon

[Anonymous No.2082991]

>>2082809
This site here actually has really good, well researched information, much better than the other tutorials in this thread. If you want to learn about how color actually works, I advise everyone to go here.

For copying convenience:
http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/tech13.html

[Anonymous No.2083028]

Do those complementary, triad, etc, color schemes work better on the RGB color wheel than the classic color wheel??

[Anonymous No.2083054]

>>2083028
Yes.
The theory around complementaries, and especially split complementaries having some inherent aesthetic value is of dubious scientific merit anyway, but if you are going to go for that kind of rigid scheme use RGB/CMY. The mathematical relationships between colors if you apply the the same "across the wheel" method is much tighter, and the direct complements mirror color negatives. You can verify color negatives by staring at one color for a minute or two, then quickly looking at a blank white screen or page. Red becomes cyan, green becomes magenta, and blue becomes yellow.

This guy >>2082769 was half right, in that an RGB color model does not cover the full gamut of visible light, but no combination of 3 visible colors can. In terms of using only 3 visible colors to mix other colors, RGB is the best possible option for additive, and CMY is the best possible option for subtractive.

[Anonymous No.2083061]

>>2083054
>>2083028
Picture of RGB gamut for reference.
Grey is the portion of visible light that can't be displayed on a typical monitor using RGB. You might be surprise by how much you can't see on a monitor, but it is so much more than what you would be able to reproduce by using only red, blue, and yellow paints.

Also in support of the mathematical relationships argument, it's a little silly, but if you look at the color wheels in >>2082618 , >>2082629 , and >>2082887, you'll notice that they all look kind of lopsided, with too much weight on certain color ranges. Compare that to the wheel found in >>2082623 which visually looks perfectly symmetrical.

[Anonymous No.2083368]

>>2082809
Oil on canvas or board. That's how I reason about most color mixing actually. But then again, I'm learning out of old ass materials. So I'm going to claim ignorance on the CMYK for paint, thought that was a ink only thing.

I know paint can't represent it, but how blue is the truest blue that can be received by the eye? And what comes close to it?

[Anonymous No.2083380]

>>2083368
CMYK applies to all pigment based media. RBY is just an old theory on how to mix color that came more from trial and error than measurement and science.

The "bluest blue" is actually spectral violet (totally different from purple), which monitors can't reproduce at all. And I'm pretty sure there's no pigment that can equate it either. It's pretty uncommon even in nature.

[Anonymous No.2083542]

>>2083380
Thanks for the heads up, I'll stop using antiquated models.

If you could find the mats required, paintings (or whatever would be needed to used) that really camp on the effect generated by how much deeper the colour is. Might be jarring af, I'm loikjnv into this.

[Prof Sai No.2083880]

Here we go.

[Anonymous No.2083884]

>>2083880
>four primaries

[Prof Sai No.2083892]

>>2083880
>>four primaries

Then why do they seem equally unlike each other? Why does the RYGB combo seem balanced? It can't be entirely due to Uno cards.

[Anonymous No.2083893]

>>2083884
It's not totally wrong. You should look into the Opponent-Process theory of color vision.

http://www.huevaluechroma.com/032.php

[Anonymous No.2083919]

http://ingridsundberg.com/2014/02/04/the-color-thesaurus/

[Anonymous No.2084078]

>>2083880
These are the four "psychological primaries". There's a brand of monitors that adds a yellow channel, but it apparently does jack-all.

[Anonymous No.2084516]

bump

[Anonymous No.2085216]

>>2082618
this tutorial explain a lot
how to choose color from saturaded to desaturaded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQllLy_X4I

[Anonymous No.2085489]

Corrected the colors, particularly the bottom. I've always been suspicious of color mixing tables where the colors don't seem equally spaced apart.