/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.2066734]

Okay, so real talk: are tumblrs actually getting nuked over of some kind of loli witchhunt? Is it true that the site automatically deletes blogs that get a certain amount of reports?

I was going to post this on mine, but some dude on /co/ was talking about his blog getting deleted over a suggestive (not even nude) drawing of the same character and now I'm paranoid. It's taken me almost a year to get barely enough followers to fill a room. I really can't afford to start over at this point.

[Anonymous No.2066931]

Tumlrinas are as of now bulling into submission anyone who draws hentai or any thing suggestive.

[Anonymous No.2066932]

>>2066931
How come Incase still has a tumblr where he posts midget porn?

[Anonymous No.2066948]

Ha ha, why don't you just stay away from drawing lolis until it settles or move to another site?

[Anonymous No.2066953]

>>2066734
Wow I'm so glad I never got a tumblr
P.s. your drawing style in this reminds me of mine

[Anonymous No.2066954]

why don't you fuck off there if you care so much
this has nothing to do with art

[Anonymous No.2066955]

>>2066954
You're an edgy faggot.

[Anonymous No.2066957]

>>2066954
Maybe it's got to do with freedom of expression through art...?

[Anonymous No.2066961]

>>2066957
>freedom
>on the internet

[Anonymous No.2066973]

>>2066955
I'm fed up with le tumblr/feminism/gamerfuck horseshit
fuck you

[Anonymous No.2066979]

>>2066973
lol so sensitive, man. I bet you have developed an allergy of your own?

[Anonymous No.2066980]

>>2066979
>disagreeing is being sensitive
lol ur so sensitive to tumblr and femnism are you butthurt?????

[Anonymous No.2066982]

>>2066973
>hating on a whole site because of a loud minority
faggot.

[Anonymous No.2066985]

>>2066980
I was referring to your choice of word to express your dislike, anon. They've got very strong connotations. And also the number of question mark in this post.

[Anonymous No.2066986]

>>2066982
you and OP are the ones doing that you stupid fucking retard
"wahhhh tumblr" "wahhhhh reddit" on every single fucking board

[Anonymous No.2066994]

>>2066973

[Anonymous No.2066998]

it actually doesnt matter when you're that bad
git gud

[Anonymous No.2067020]

honestly while I'm not surprised its still a shame.
while I never had a tumblr myself and all the ones I went to had a terrible layout I just couldn't stand, I always thought there were quite a large amount of decent artists on there. Its a shame people are getting deleted just because -muh sensibilities-

[Anonymous No.2067058]

tumblr´s the bieber of web

[Anonymous No.2067087]

suppose that kiddy porn would fall under the Harm to Minors violation.
>Harm to Minors. Be thoughtful when posting anything involving a minor. Don't post or solicit anything relating to minors that is sexually suggestive or violent. Don't bully minors, even if you are one. Being a teenager is complicated enough without the anxiety, sadness, and isolation caused by bullying.

[Anonymous No.2067138]

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa but i want to draw children for other grown men to fap to.

>muh rights
>muh expression
>muh art

They have every right to run their site whatever way they want. Fuck off if you think it's about freedom of art, it's more important that business owners have the freedom to run their company as they see fit. Loli porn is sick and ruins the image of tumblr.

[Anonymous No.2067153]

>>2066931

That's a load of shit. There are plenty of NSFW tumblrs that don't get touched. People just need to learn to draw women that look like women. A lot of people on tumblr have fucked in the head fetishes anyway and have unhealthy obsessions over shows made for children. Those accounts getting nuked is no skin off my nose.

[Anonymous No.2067154]

>>2067138
You clearly care more about business than you do about art. Sure, They have every right to make their site an online daycare but they're depriving the west from ever having an Asian-tier art site with their nannying.

[Anonymous No.2067156]

>>2067138
>Worrying about the image of a website

(>>/Tumblr/)

[Anonymous No.2067162]

>>2067154
>they're depriving the west from ever having an Asian-tier art site with their nannying.

Literally who cares? You aren't entitled to that shit. You never were. Use Pixiv and stop being a whiny faggot.

[Anonymous No.2067163]

>>2067138
>business owners should have the freedom to ban all colored people from going there
there's a thing called freedom of expression, I can accept tumblr saying no if they were a sfw website, but there's plenty of fucked up /d/ tier fetishes on there that they don't care about. They're banning loli because of
>muh children
which is complete and utter bullshit.
People who defend the banning of any sexual fetish are the people who don't realize this is how thought crimes are produced.

[Anonymous No.2067174]

>>2067163
>comparing loli-con faggots to ethnic minorities.

Could you at least make a comparison that makes fucking sense?

Loli-con faggots aren't comparable to ethnic minorities. They are more comparable to actual faggots ie gay people.

[Anonymous No.2067177]

>>2067174
and gay people get compared to ethic minorities on a regular basis.
the point is if you're giving businesses the right to turn away they want on the basis that they don't like it because they have the right to run things as they see fit, they should be allowed to turn people away based on race.
the main point regardless of the comparison is you're essentially banning a thought crime. you don't like something that hurts no one but produces either pleasure or art, but since you don't like it you ban something that hurts absolutely no one. where's the logic in that?
the only reason people defend it is the 'b-but think of the children!' shit that doesn't even apply. this is no different than banning art because its of an opposing political party.

[Anonymous No.2067178]

>>2066973
im with you man, fuck these faggots

[Anonymous No.2067180]

>>2067162
I care that the next White Datura might be discouraged from posting their art because it doesn't conform to the safe garbage style that all tumblr artist's are turning into to. Japan has a fraction of the population that America has yet the volume of good art that they churn out online completely wrecks what tumblr churns out. It makes me think of just how many artists they've stifled.

[Anonymous No.2067185]

>>2067180
>I care that the next White Datura
dont worry i dont give a fuck about them

[Anonymous No.2067186]

>>2067180
>comparing the entire japanese art community (and fan community) to tumblr
first off the entire american art community doesn't work on tumblr, second tumblr is not where people go for top tier art, some good artists might use it as a dump, but its not where people go for them.

[Anonymous No.2067188]

>>2067180
Tumblr vs Pixiv is hardly America vs Japan. White Datura is Chinese and so are many (if not most) of the good artists on Pixiv. He probably posts his stuff on chinese sites as well, but nobody cares about those.

[Anonymous No.2067191]

>>2066932
All tumblrs i've seen where pseudo loli gets posted clarify that the characters are not underaged.
I for one can't fucking believe this bullshit, it's a fucking drawing, not a real person, does anyone protest about furry porn being an animal's rights violation or some shit?.
Anyway, people that draw that shit and have a tumblr post it in different sites.

[Anonymous No.2067192]

>>2067186
Tumblr's becoming the go to place to post your work online now that all those other sites are dead and you know it. Where else are people supposed to go? Facebook groups? Permanoobs?

[Anonymous No.2067197]

>>2067163
A larger majority would complain about loliporn, so it's in their best interest to remove it. It's offsetting even in comparison to other fetishes.

Businesses don't have to consider all your "rights" when making decisions, only the ones forced upon them by the government. And if you think they should you're infringing on their right to run their business. You're essentially doing what you're complaining about in the first place.

[Anonymous No.2067199]

>>2067177
>and gay people get compared to ethic minorities on a regular basis.

By who? Autistic faggots aka SJWs? Sexual orientation/fetishes and ethnicity aren't comparable. They never have been. One is something you see. The other is something you have to ask about to even fucking know (just like fucking fetishes).

Furthermore, as someone mentioned prior, Tumblr is within their right to do what they are doing. They aren't infringing on anyone's rights because fetishes are the lowest tier of shit that defines a person as an individual. If they don't want loli shit on their site, they are free to express that and ban it. The fact that you're trying to pretend fetishes are on the same tier/importance as shit like race/ethnicity is pretty fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.2067206]

>>2067197
>complaining about a ban is the same as complaining about harmless material
not its not, they're banning something that does have artistic merit. If there's no outcry from the community over this then they'll see it as perfectly fine to ban whatever they see fit.
A large portion of people probably think banning drawn images is retarded, but the most vocal majority is the 'THE CHILDREN NEED OUR PROTECTION' group, because they'll attack anything and everything that involves a kid.
While businesses have the right to veto what they want, it doesn't change the fact that this is a terrible decision and an infringement on artistic rights. They can do what they see fit as a business, but it doesn't mean people should accept it quietly, especially when it has such a large art community.
>>2067199
I'll admit I don't give a shit about businesses, but in terms of art and free expression, race and fetishes are equal.

[Anonymous No.2067208]

>>2067199
Now it's hentai and fetishes, tomorrow it's sexy SFW pinup girls. I really don't understand why idiots like you are always so fucking short-sighted just because at this very moment, censorship doesn't affect you personally.

[Anonymous No.2067213]

>>2067208
>hentai and fetishes
>hentai
>implying

Things like pic related isn't going to get you banned on tumblr. Quit your bitching just because loli-con crap isn't allowed. Use another site. Tumblr has no obligation to allow all fetishes on their site in the first place.

[Anonymous No.2067215]

>>2067213
>only hentai of women with freakishly large breasts are allowed because small breasts mean they're underaged!
>those women aren't 'healthy' enough gotta ban them.

[Anonymous No.2067216]

guys

i was only asking if you thought I could post the drawing without getting flagged

i wasn't trying to start an argument

GUYS

[Anonymous No.2067217]

>>2067213
Don't worry. Given the rampant feminism that's sweeping across society, and in particular on tumblr, big breasted women will soon be banned for objectifying women. It's problematic, you see.

Only obese women painted in menstrual blood will be allowed.

[Anonymous No.2067218]

>>2067216
fuck off this is about lolis now
honestly though, if you're that worried just upload it on another site and link. no point in risking it

[Anonymous No.2067220]

>>2067218
well shit I forgot this isn't /a/ and my meme spoilers don't work.

[Anonymous No.2067221]

>>2067215
>my degenerate fetish for underage kids isn't allowed on this site?
>they are trying to silence my free speech and will eventually ban all things sexy!

Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.2067222]

>>2067213
>Things like pic related isn't going to get you banned on tumblr.

Not yet. Maybe SJWs should get that stuff banned next. What's going to stop them? After all, tumblr has no obligations to allow stuff on their site that hurts the feelings of their loudest demographic.

[Anonymous No.2067223]

Gotta protect all those fictional minors of being exploited

[Anonymous No.2067224]

>>2067216
It's clothed you faggot, and there's nothing that indicates the age of either character.

[Anonymous No.2067229]

>>2067221
I don't think you understand how these things work.
I'm not even into loli, there's some artwork I like that's aimed toward lolicons, but I like them because they're good artworks. The fact people are going to get censored because of the content isn't something you should ever accept.
Also things work like this
>people in charge belong to a certain group of fetishes
>anything that's too far away or they don't like gets censored
>continue until only their fetishes remain
Accepting censorship is never a good thing, this is art.
Give me 1 good reason lolicon content should be banned, just 1 and 'mah sensibilities' is not a reason.

[Anonymous No.2067230]

>>2067222 see >>2067221

[Anonymous No.2067232]

>>2067221
>they are trying to silence my free speech and will eventually ban all things sexy!

they sure are trying.

[Anonymous No.2067234]

>>2067192
Not him, but being serious here, what's wrong with deviantart?

[Anonymous No.2067237]

>>2067234
Its flooded for me.
Maybe because I had a shite account 5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.2067238]

>>2067229
>Accepting censorship is never a good thing, this is art.

No it isn't you fucking moron. This is a BUSINESS. We are talking about tumblr. What the fuck don't you understand about this? Is CP accepted on FB? on Twitter? It's a business. Tumblr is NOT an art focused website. It never was. Just because you can use it to promote your art doesn't make it a fucking art website. You can use FB and Twitter to do the same shit.

[Anonymous No.2067240]

>>2067230
I couldn't give less of a shit about loli porn but if people have to fear being banned for posting something like >>2066734 then it doesn't affect just loli porn.

You are too stupid to understand that the line is very blurry.

[Anonymous No.2067243]

>>2067216
>all characters depicted are of 18 years or older

There you go

[Anonymous No.2067247]

>>2067240

No, you're too stupid to understand how business works and what tumblr is. You're an entitled fuckwit.

[Anonymous No.2067248]

>>2067238
I don't think you understand things either.
Sure it might just be tumblr now and they have the right to do whatever the fuck they want, but if people just let it happen then where does it stop?
Do you really think art with flourish when there's no websites that let them post it?
The point isn't to get tumblr to accept it, its to make it known that this is not okay.

[Anonymous No.2067250]

>>2067238
We aren't talking about CP here you fucking fool. If it is against the law, of course any sensible business will ban it. Even fucking 4chan has extremely strict policies against CP and bans people posting it on the spot.

The point is that blogs are being banned for very subjective reasons. They don't post anything illegal, they don't even post NSFW in many cases. If Tumblr wants to be family friendly and ban all NSFW images, that's a choice they are perfectly free to make. But banning INDIVIDUAL blogs on a case to case basis based on how offended people are has very bad consequences in the long run and you are a very dumb person for not understanding this.

[Anonymous No.2067252]

>>2067243
Holy shit that's like so totally racist? You realize that yeah? That in many beautiful countries in the world (like some of the ones that your evil race has oppressed since forever) 18 is still underage. Check your f****** privilege.
*Reblog if you like*

[Anonymous No.2067255]

Question:
What is the difference between "loli" and a young girl?
They just don't want underage nudity, right? That makes sense to me. Petite, small girls over age 18 are fine, but are they considered unacceptable on tumblr? I'm truly curious, not trying to sound rude.

[Anonymous No.2067258]

>>2067221
Many of those degenerates are hella good artists and wouldn't want to post if it they weren't allowed to draw what they wanted to draw . Good art communities aren't about people posting good artwork, it's about creating an environment where the best of the best can post all their artwork good or bad so that other artists can learn from them and that can't happen on tumblr.

[Anonymous No.2067259]

>>2067247
>hurr durr it's a business

Then Tumblr should act like a business and write an official policy on the matter. Again, we aren't even talking about hardcore loli porn here. We aren't talking about blogs that are posting anything that goes against any Tumblr policies. We are talking about blogs being deleted because tumblerettes such as yourself feel offended. NOT because the content is going against any offical policies.

[Anonymous No.2067264]

>>2067259
Agreed

[Anonymous No.2067266]

>>2067255
>Petite, small girls over age 18 are fine, but are they considered unacceptable on tumblr?

That's the whole problem people have with this. It's entirely arbitrary and up to the individuals who are getting offended. No one is gonna give a shit that you think your fictional young looking girl in a sexy pose is over 18 in your mind. If she looks young, has small breasts and is nude or in a provocative pose, SJWs have the right to get your blog deleted.

[Anonymous No.2067269]

>>2067259
>offended

There is literally only 1 group of people offended in this thread. People like you. Which is why you're here, bitching about what they are doing in the first place. What they are doing literally doesn't effect me for two reasons: I don't care about loli porn, hardcore or not, and the artists I like and follow, safe and nsfw, don't draw the material, so they aren't effected.

[Anonymous No.2067272]

>>2067269
which is why your opinion is shit and doesn't matter
>It doesn't affect me so why should I care?
We care because this is pointless censorship and isn't even restricted under their formal terms of service.
Saying it doesn't matter because -only those filthy degenerates are affected- is what all you idiots think right before its YOUR artwork or the artwork of those you follow.
staying quiet now means no one is going to care when its your work that's getting censored.

[Anonymous No.2067275]

[Anonymous No.2067276]

>>2067269
If the content of a blog does not go against any official policies of the site it uses, then a group of people getting triggered by it, should not be able to get these blogs deleted.

That's all I'm going to say to you. Any further argument with you is poinless as you have proven to be too dumb to understand the bigger picture and you keep going back to "hurr it doesn't affect me so it's fine".

[Anonymous No.2067277]

>>2067272

Tell yourself whatever you need to make yourself feel important m8. You aren't. You sound like a SJW. Quit the bitching and use another site. Or better yet, get into the process of making your own. Novel idea.

[Anonymous No.2067279]

>>2067266
Yes even women who are petite look more womanly than a child would. This makes sense to me. Though, if I were a tumblr user and got something like that taken down that was NOT pornographic or sexy, I would probably be a little upset

[Anonymous No.2067280]

>>2067277
thanks for confirming you're a short sighted idiot who can't see beyond his own dick.
as >>2067276
said, any further argument is pointless because you can't argue with someone who shuts his ears off to reality and screams.

[Anonymous No.2067281]

Reminder: In the year 2015, it's not okay to be offended by things that don't affect you in your day to day life. Loli-fags are retarded but unless some dude is jerking it to lolis at your work, you're overreacting by being offended.

[Anonymous No.2067284]

>>2067280

I'm short sighted because I'm not throwing a bitch fit about Tumblr? When there are other sites you can use? You are literally just an entitled little cunt.

[Anonymous No.2067285]

>>2067281
>Reminder: In the year 2015, it's not okay to be offended by things that don't affect you in your day to day life.

It's the opposite. You should be offended by everything, unless you're part of the "not a white man" demographic. In that case, everything you do is shameful and done solely to oppress everyone else.

[Anonymous No.2067286]

>>2067269
>I don't care about loli porn, hardcore or not, and the artists I like and follow, safe and nsfw, don't draw the material, so they aren't effected.

One of the artists I follow on Tumblr is Claire Wendling. Great artist, very established in the industry. Not exactly some perverted pedophile. Should her blog be deleted because of pic related? Where do we draw the line?

[Anonymous No.2067288]

>>2067138
>muh
>2015

[Anonymous No.2067289]

>>2067286
She's a woman, so she's not affected. Women openly rape children in society and aren't punished for it. It's no different on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.2067297]

>>2067286
This is true. Maybe she doesn't care about hentai artists (probably because of latent racism) but what about the next Fred Moore?

[Anonymous No.2067310]

>>2067275
Stop running off without posting your blog assclown.

[Anonymous No.2067313]

And here we go again. Releasing all the meaningless defenses and complaints about tumblr with a hint of edginess. And going through all the terrible arguments with no evidence at all and nothing but purely ideological reasoning. Never change, /ic/.

[Anonymous No.2067316]

>>2067310
Don't have one, Mr Leto.

[Anonymous No.2067317]

>>2067313
And here we go again. The "cool outsider" post. The guy looking down on everyone else because he's just that much better than the rest, yet doesn't even make the slightest effort to follow his own advice from his post. Thanks for contributing to this thread without making any argument, without posting any evidence and by completely relying on ideological reasoning.

[Anonymous No.2067318]

>>2067317
I don't think that's a guy. It's probably that one cunt that keeps shitting up every thread.

[Anonymous No.2067320]

>There are 29 posters in this thread.
Antiloli samefaging thread

[Anonymous No.2067323]

>>2067252
In some parts of europe, the age of consent is 13

[Anonymous No.2067325]

>>2067320
well when you're having an argument it makes sense that the same posters post multiple times.

[Anonymous No.2067326]

Most classic masters would be BTFO of tumblr

[Anonymous No.2067327]

Riddle me this
Would you draw Ellie naked doing lewd things, and then post it?

[Anonymous No.2067337]

>>2067327
Maybe

[Anonymous No.2067353]

>>2067327
>Requests for free work of any sort are forbidden.