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[Anonymous No.2061175]

Previous Thread: >>2058330
Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>dA /ic/ group :
4chan-ic.deviantart.com

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>General resources :
sites.google.com/site/4chanic/
sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
characterdesigns.com/
crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts
fusroda.com/resources/

>fellowBro's books :
mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8

>Figure Drawing Tool:
pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
posemaniacs.com/

>Photoshop Brushes
cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/tower_of_evil
digitalbrushes.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2061180]

i was tempted for a second to post that van gogh painting again and say it was mine but nah i ain't gonna fuck wit the sanctity of the draw thread

just know i was thinking about it lol

[Anonymous No.2061184]

[Anonymous No.2061193]

>>2061184
looks like the diddler

[Anonymous No.2061195]

>>2061184
Damn. Looks good.

[Anonymous No.2061207]

>>2060792
>>2060794
I did redraw the sketch several times. Dunno where I'm going wrong - I'll move on. Think I'll do another week of humans & then go study environments because I'm getting sick of noses and cheekbones.

>>2061033
I thought that was the least important stage? As in, it's not a fundamental skill?

[Anonymous No.2061208]

>>2061175
the fuck is this shitty pick op

[Anonymous No.2061209]

[Anonymous No.2061212]

>>2061208
kinda an art joke. probably too obtuse for this crowd to be fair, i'm sure someone somewhere will get it.... and not find it funny probably.

[Anonymous No.2061226]

[Anonymous No.2061227]

>>2061226
Sharpen some of the features, e.g. the eyes. Now everything is blurry.

[Anonymous No.2061241]

Rate

[Anonymous No.2061244]

>>2061226
Did you colourpick/paint over a photo?

[Anonymous No.2061246]

>>2061227
I'll work on it, thanks

>>2061244
nope, tried to exaggerate the colours of the original and, as you can see, the pose and proportions of the head are fairly off

[Anonymous No.2061251]

>>2061175
Shoulders redline, anyone? :/

[Anonymous No.2061309]

Did a shitty little Wonder Woman sketch

[Anonymous No.2061348]

>>2061241
proportions and depth are WACK

[Anonymous No.2061353]

How's this?

[Anonymous No.2061361]

>>2061226
>>2061246


>exaggerate the original

bring out the blues and yellows, looks boring as fuck

[Anonymous No.2061418]

drawing

[Anonymous No.2061439]

okay i tried again.
um i feel like i am doing something wrong
and cant find references to double check dangit

[Anonymous No.2061473]

whats up /ic/, need some help or criticizing

[Anonymous No.2061474]

>>2061418
Values and edges are borked in both of them; think in terms of areas of light and shadow, and how smooth or sharp the transitions between them should be; maybe use a blender to make your life easier?

[Anonymous No.2061486]

>>2061175
i didn't notice i was using the soft brush on the neck.

[Anonymous No.2061523]

Kinda bored at work

[Anonymous No.2061526]

>>2061523
obvious b8 for /ic/

[Anonymous No.2061557]

>>2061473
go to the sticky. alos, we do have a beginner thread. seek both out

[Anonymous No.2061600]

Valuefags pls halp

If there's bright sunlight coming from the outside, do I have to let her shoulder dissapear like this? Looks kinda funky

Is it even remotely realistic lighting

[Anonymous No.2061785]

mercenary guy

[Anonymous No.2061805]

>>2061600
You are still in the block in phase, try to finish that then see where light hits around each form and fold.

[Anonymous No.2061846]

>>2061785
I assume it's a work in progress?

[Anonymous No.2061874]

>>2061846
yes.

[Anonymous No.2061879]

[Anonymous No.2061920]

My buddy's cat died and because he lives on the other side of the country now, i'm gonna send him this to cheer him up.
Haven't painted with acryl too much yet, but so far i'm quite happy how it turned out.

[Anonymous No.2061929]

>>2061439
Looks solid. Now do it blindfolded.

[Anonymous No.2061940]

>>2061929
No buddy blindfolded is.dumb, shove that stylus in your urethra and redraw these

[Anonymous No.2061943]

>>2061874

huehuehue

[cool anon No.2061971]

Dear ic:

what is the best way to learn from references: Just drawing-copying them blindly, or draw them by memory just seeing once?

How you do train that way?

Here´s a quicky one with the ref of course (critiques more than welcomed):

[Anonymous No.2061990]

>>2061971
Don't try to 100% render based on the photo (what you are doing right now). Instead focus on the planes of the face, direction of light, and large shapes. For some people working in grayscale is usually a good place to start because it helps to see the direction of light and shadow planes easier. pic related.

[cool anon No.2061993]

>>2061990
thanks

Should I guess the color when painting instead of using the dropper?

[Anonymous No.2061995]

>>2061993
Guess the color, then check how close you were with the eyedropper (make sure it's set to more than just 1 pixel). Eventually you'll see if you keep choosing colors that are too saturated, too cool, etc.

[Anonymous No.2061997]

>>2061993
Don't guess, know. What I mean is study the different hues in a persons' face, find the general tone and try to work from that. As for objects and clothes light plays a large part in what you see vs what it really is (a green tree will be a dark shade of blue at night etc.). Go into one of the tutorial threads there should be some stuff that can describe this better than I can atm but here is an example for faces.

[cool anon No.2062010]

>>2061997

thanks bro I really appreciate this.

When studyin a particular light effect or shape. Should I copy the part effect from a copy once then do it from memorize, see the mistakes rinse and repeat??

[Anonymous No.2062030]

>>2062010
Yeah that works, but don't just focus on one reference or one photo do a set of photos from different references, observe the different values in each, direction of light on the form, etc. Here's where I'm at to kind of give an example, some are better than others but that is why you do more than one b/c you'll learn and try different things.

[Anonymous No.2062040]

[Anonymous No.2062050]

>>2061971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kfK46nruKM
at this point this should be mandatory for the copy-paste of every drawthread or studythread

[Anonymous No.2062059]

study... not fully finished but I'm done with it. are the eyes lopsided? I think they're lopsided but I can't tell anymore.

[Anonymous No.2062063]

Underdrawing for a painting, good likeness?

>>2061184
I like that lighting, gonna steal it.

[cool anon No.2062094]

>>2062050

I understand now. More than studying I was just copying... thank you very much for sharing that video. Time to study now...

[Anonymous No.2062096]

Want to gitgud at Heds. Studying loomdick

[Anonymous No.2062101]

Heds

[Anonymous No.2062104]

>>2062050
>"this video's gonna be really short"
>14 mins
lol not quite, anthony.

Good explanation though. I agree that it needs to be in study threads at the very least though. /ic/ misses the point more often than not

[Anonymous No.2062116]

>>2062059
Lovely study
eyes look fine to me, I'd love to see you post this when it's finished

[Anonymous No.2062122]

>>2062059
It could be that the eye on our right is a tiny bit far out but you'll want to look at any values around the eye socket that maybe need addressing - it's all pretty flat so it's got a little bit of anime sticker-eye syndrome. So see if there are any value changes near the inner corner of the eye or under it, anywhere the structure of the eye socket should be showing.

[Anonymous No.2062176]

heds

[Anonymous No.2062196]

praise my art, and if you do not that means that you are a misogynistic pig!

[Anonymous No.2062211]

[Anonymous No.2062212]

[Anonymous No.2062213]

[Anonymous No.2062214]

[Anonymous No.2062215]

>>2062176
Lol @ the hair

[Anonymous No.2062243]

Grayscale of a portfolio thing i'm doing, I'm pretty new to using websites to promote and stuff so I'm also just wondering what's a good website to put art up onto.

[Anonymous No.2062245]

>>2062243
Tumblr/DA I guess
I hear a lot of artists actually follow each other on instagram so that might be a good place to put your stuff too

[Anonymous No.2062290]

>>2061175

[Anonymous No.2062291]

>>2062290
From a series of etchings I did

[Anonymous No.2062304]

>>2062291
gross
... not too shabby

[Anonymous No.2062336]

>>2062243

looks like justin bieber, you might want to correct that.

[Anonymous No.2062337]

Draw her dancing

[Anonymous No.2062343]

>>2062337
tumblr/da? I'm interested

[Anonymous No.2062344]

>>2062243

Have you got a DA/website? I'm currently building my portfolio and it would be nice to talk to someone who's at a similar level

[Anonymous No.2062347]

>>2062343
I think I use this both as my tumblr and DA icon?

[Anonymous No.2062349]

>>2062347
no, what is your da/tumblr? I want to see more

[Anonymous No.2062350]

>>2062349
Minata-Tan

[Anonymous No.2062359]

>>2062349
here is some more I've done. I was thinking I could probably pick up a couple of followers here

[Anonymous No.2062361]

>>2062359
Well that actually my drawing of her the reference I gave you is a old request I had done for me.

[Anonymous No.2062413]

Painting frogs

[Anonymous No.2062418]

Queen of a future space theocracy

[Anonymous No.2062425]

[Anonymous No.2062447]

>>2061805
>>2061600
I fucked around with the values a bit
Is this any better now?
I can't even.

[Anonymous No.2062452]

[Anonymous No.2062459]

>>2062452

lmao

Well I guess that answers the question "what does a rapist look like?"

[Anonymous No.2062477]

I think there's serious problems but I've been staring at it too long. Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.2062480]

>>2062477

I guess it's time to hide the draw thread too. I can now stare at a wall of hidden threads. Awesome!

[Anonymous No.2062522]

>>2062477
keep this shit in the porn thread. That's why we have the fucking porn thread.
Also her neck is broken.

[Anonymous No.2062525]

>>2061353
It has a messy style but I like it. Looks good

[Anonymous No.2062530]

>>2062212
The nose is good and I like the shading. The mouth however needs improvement.

[Anonymous No.2062542]

can someone help me with the composition?

[Anonymous No.2062547]

>>2062542
Looks good so far keep going

[Anonymous No.2062556]

[Anonymous No.2062558]

>>2062542
im imagining a giant snake coming thru those holes in the mountains to eat some guy who was put there as a sacrifice.

just saiyn.

[Anonymous No.2062591]

>>2062542
Yes, I can.

[Anonymous No.2062613]

Continuing from >>2060382

Slimmed the statue a bit. It's supposed to be female after all. Would appreciate feedback, particularly on perspective and foreshortening.

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.2062703]

What is animu anatomy...

[Anonymous No.2062707]

hand sketch

[Anonymous No.2062720]

>>2062703
Her back is snapped in two..

[Anonymous No.2062740]

wip, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2062793]

>>2062720

Go back to eschergirls, the anatomy is exaggerated but not entirely unrealistic.

[Anonymous No.2062798]

>>2062793
The girl in your image is not also twisting to show her ass and tits. otherwise I would agree

[Anonymous No.2062799]

soft pastel

[Anonymous No.2062800]

>>2062799
water color

[Anonymous No.2062802]

>>2062798

artistic licence man, I don't understood people who get hung up one one particular aspect of animu anatomy but ignore the big heads, pointy chins, tiny noses, gigantic eyes.

[Anonymous No.2062803]

>>2061600

I really like the expressions and composition here

>>2061990

thanks for posting this!

[Anonymous No.2062805]

i made a painting. I call it "friendzone"

[Anonymous No.2062806]

>>2061990
this is awesome!

[Anonymous No.2062807]

>>2062802
Bodies in animu are generally much closer to reality than the faces. You're allowed to make the eyes big because it's just a matter of proportion. If you bend the body in a way that isn't possible, it just looks painful (because it's supposed to be representing a real body)

[Anonymous No.2062810]

>>2062805
i like it dood

[Anonymous No.2062811]

>>2062740
Anon’s beautiful landscape scene depicts Usagi, dressed in a voluminous, white dress, without a veiled hat, carrying a parasol. She is standing on a hill of green and yellow, silhouetted against a not-so dazzling blue, swirling sky. Chibiusa is standing off in the background in the field, as a moment is captured in a painting. The moment depicted seems to be Usagi catching a glimpse of someone looking at her.
Anon’s masterful depiction of light shows in this painting. There is also a very convincing depiction of movement in the air. Anon captures the fleeting effects of the sunlight, using shades of dark and light colors to indicate shadows, and sunlit areas, which is characteristic of his style. The grass is created with abbreviated, comma-like strokes, and quick, strong, wispy strokes of varying size and direction create the boundless sky, in an informal but masterful way.
Usagi is made to look majestic or statuesque due to perspective, yet the true subjects of Anon’s paintings are color and movement. The way in which he mixes colors, creating shadows, and the brushstroke creating fluidity, make the scene realistic, with the viewer almost feeling the openness of the outdoors. Although Anon created this painting as an experiment, and for his own practice, it is one of his most famous paintings. It is currently in the Draw Thread of 4chan board /ic/.

[Anonymous No.2062812]

>>2062811
what

[Anonymous No.2062819]

>>2062807

I accept that, but tbh I can't help but see it as being manufactured outrage, just because it looks kinda hot, if it was distorted in a ugly way like Egon Schile figures then it's fine, but because it's sexualized it's a problem all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.2062820]

>>2062812
He probably edited a description of the Monet painting that guy copied, don't remember the name.

[Anonymous No.2062822]

>>2062810
thank you!

[Anonymous No.2062825]

>>2062811
lololol

[Anonymous No.2062834]

>>2061920
i like the colors dood

[Anonymous No.2062835]

>>2062798
You simply don't know how far the spine can twist.
Protip: it's much more than what it's required to show both boobs and ass.
Sorry landwhales.

[Anonymous No.2062856]

This is in the very early stages, but it's a bandit examining a gem or gold or something atop a statue. What can I do compositionally to make it more interesting? I'll probably darken the sky a bit to make him stand out a little more.

[Anonymous No.2062920]

[Anonymous No.2062931]

>>2062835
>exceptions are actually rules, guys
You're gonna go far, anon.

[Anonymous No.2062951]

>>2061175

[Anonymous No.2062952]

>>2062920
who made the original picture?

[Anonymous No.2062969]

>>2062522
>porn thread
Oh yeah, my mistake.

[Anonymous No.2062989]

>>2062740

fucking lmao

[Anonymous No.2063049]

>>2062952
The painting is called The Baptism of Vajk

cant remember the name of the artist though

[Anonymous No.2063054]

Are we allowed to post character studies of already known characters?

[Anonymous No.2063056]

>>2063054
Though I hate that character, I think you did well. Watch the chicken scratch. Was this originaly done in pen or was it first in pencil and then in pen?

[Anonymous No.2063058]

>>2063056
Straight pen. As I was originally just doodling and trying to emulate the style that she is drawn in. Wasn't turning into anything serious till I got more into it with pen

[Anonymous No.2063060]

>>2063056
I wish people would shut up about chicken scratch. You can always erase and redo the line if you see chicken scratch it's just an unfinished piece you nit pick shithole.

[Anonymous No.2063062]

>>2063060
Actually i, unlike most, kind of enjoy the unfinished look it retains with the chicken scratch

[Anonymous No.2063064]

>>2063060

Long and confident lines leads to better drawings in most cases. Only time i've seen chickenskratching work is with shit like animation, where a small difference in lines between two frames can lead to wonky results when it's animated.

[Anonymous No.2063072]

>>2063064
I agree, I eventually want to get into animation, but this was just a character study. I wasn't trying to make it a masterpiece. I just wanted to see if I could rather than go all out and it look like shit with confident lines

[Anonymous No.2063113]

>>2061473
don't listen to that other anon, you're doing good but lets see something you did for yourself and not just copying someone else's work

[Anonymous No.2063116]

>>2063062
I like it too sometimes.

>>2063064
BUT YOU CAN DO BOTH.

[Anonymous No.2063121]

>>2063049
thank you

[Anonymous No.2063150]

Finally got around to finishing this up, besides the unsteady inking errors I think its great.

[Anonymous No.2063189]

Also workin on this, have a ungodly time with the feet.

[Anonymous No.2063195]

wippo

[Anonymous No.2063200]

>>2063150
>>2063189
I like these a lot!! Have you ever tried experimenting with different sized pens when inking (ie smaller pens for minor details like clothing folds) bc I think that could improve the quality of your stuff a lot.

[Anonymous No.2063208]

>>2063200
Thank ya, and I have a little bit but no much with this two drawings here since I was going for abit more detail. I'll fool around some more with my next drawing on ink weight.

[Anonymous No.2063225]

Some pencil sketch from a sketchbook that I quickly inked
Trying to work on my lines. The pen doesn't always do what I want it to do

[Anonymous No.2063226]

>>2063195
no light source

[Anonymous No.2063234]

quick sketch before sleep

[Anonymous No.2063270]

[Anonymous No.2063275]

>>2063270
Damn dude that is neat as hell, I kinda wish you'd have used alot more color then could have been pretty trippy

[Anonymous No.2063279]

>>2063275
thank you, but i think it would be better if it was less trippy

[Anonymous No.2063294]

Started, don't want to finish because I lost the "spark" for it or whatever. Feel free to have it and make it look better/worse, or what have you.

[Anonymous No.2063297]

How is my bounce lights? Is it logical in value and hue?

[Anonymous No.2063298]

>>2063195
They look incredibly stiff

[Anonymous No.2063299]

>>2062243
Minus points if you're gonna keep the photobashed girl

[Anonymous No.2063302]

>>2063297
This should help if you're questioning it but it looks pretty solid to me :3 if anything, I think the light should be more rounded with the ball in the middle half of it. Other than that, it's really pretty ^^

[Anonymous No.2063303]

>>2063297
Turn that value down, brah. It shouldn't be as light as your other light, otherwise you flatten everything.

[Anonymous No.2063307]

>>2062243
Looks good so far, the girls rib cage in the background, though looks like it's continuing up with her chest. Try to define the breast a bit more away from the cage so the cage doesn't look like it's protruding grotesquely. Also, I can't really tell what the gentleman is doing with is feet, it's a little confusing X3 but I like where it's going, keep it up

[Anonymous No.2063311]

3 runs of a screenprint and some drawing done to it

[Anonymous No.2063318]

>>2062425
I feel like her jaw is a bit long and should be drawn up higher as it goes under the hood, does that make sense? The part where the jaw rounds up to meet the ear? I think I see you did that, but I feel like it should be a bit closer, that's all you, though. Other than that I think it's a wicked design and love how you did her arms and chest-plate, good shit

[Anonymous No.2063329]

>>2063302
lol what an obfuscating picture. you can't say it's wrong but it's all cluttered and confusing..and WHY didn't they set up the light so everything would be clearly visible. and why would you have the light there in the first place wouldn't it be way...forget it.

[Anonymous No.2063338]

>>2063303
How so? Quick paintover please?

>>2063302
Thanks

[Anonymous No.2063362]

>>2062613
I feel like the head needs to be re-angled, from that perspective it looks like her jaw is sort of sloping downwards. Try playing with it a bit and repost the progress, I'd like to see what you get

[Anonymous No.2063380]

>>2061175

[Anonymous No.2063389]

>>2063338
I'm by no means good at this sort of thing but I gave it a shot to show what I mean X3 I don't have that brush (not using photoshop) so mine is a bit more "painty" but this is what I basically mean. The second image in it is what I got to be the light sources in the image, did I get that right? But yeah, just basically round it out. If need be, draw where your light source(s) are to help you get a better feel for how it'll bounce off of your subject ^^

[Anonymous No.2063392]

>>2063338
Oh shoot, don't forget the hard edge on the right side XD Like I said, not the best but tried ^^; sorry if I'm no help ^^;;

[Anonymous No.2063394]

>>2063225
I'm not qualified enough as an artist to give proper critique on this, other than to say that this needs work. Even if you're going for stylized, the faces should be symmetric, and of course the line work needs to be improved

[Anonymous No.2063399]

>>2063060
STOP JUSTIFYING CHICKENSCRATCH, FUCKER.

Not the anon you're replying to, but I passionately hate anyone who give shitty advice that can potentially set learning artists many steps back just for allowing themselves an excuse to chickenscratch. Chickenscratch is an amateur's hesitation to commit to their lines. What looked like "chickenscratch" in professional rough sketches are just quick sketches to get the idea across quickly.

I would rather have learning artists make mistakes than chickenscratch. No erasing that mistake when practicing, since those errors not only serve as a reminder, rubbing that eraser on paper fucks the paper up. Erasers also give that "safety net" to keep fucking up.

[Anonymous No.2063419]

>>2063362
Thanks for the input.

I'll fiddle around with the jaw line but I'll keep the eye line where it is. I like having the eyes and the face " recognizable", if that made sense

[Anonymous No.2063421]

>>2063419
Perfect sense, mate. The image being recognizable is a good thing lol

[Anonymous No.2063425]

Chikun

[Anonymous No.2063444]

sssssssss

[Anonymous No.2063449]

>>2063444
Did you draw this on your phone?

[Anonymous No.2063451]

>>2063189
I'm not that great with feet myself, but I looked at a few ref. images and gave it a shot, does this help?

[Anonymous No.2063463]

>>2063394
yes definitely, I'm just starting to pay attention to inking and this is not anything serious
But why should I draw symmetric faces if I'm not going for traditional semi realistic drawing in the first place? I like the ugliness
They're like cartoon characters I guess

[Anonymous No.2063475]

I hated the color choices I made for this, but there was no turning back.

[Anonymous No.2063483]

>>2063399
What a pile of bullshit. This isn't chickenscratch, just normal sketching while discovering the subject. Chicken scratch happens when people don't commit to making mistakes and then draw a line out of dots for 10 minutes.

Errors happen all the time, just fix them. But you can pretend to be hardcore with a pen and redraw the same thing over and over like a dumb photocopier. Which is totally gonna put any imagination you had to sleep and suck the fun out of drawing.

And fuck the paper. Except you were stupid enough to pay $10 per sheet. It's there to be fucked up.

Your advice may hold for a professional who draws since 10 years, but even there, it's their decision.

[Anonymous No.2063498]

trying to improve anatomy again, starting back with figure drawing, what else do you guys recommend?
value studies, drawing from life,copying masters?
what should take priority?

[Anonymous No.2063525]

>>2063297
tutorial where you learned the painting technique from?

[Anonymous No.2063551]

>>2063483
>believing this isnt chickenscratch

have fun never making it, anon

[Anonymous No.2063572]

>>2063525
Well, if you want that kinda painterly look, I use SAI. That's pretty much all there is to it. I guess I learned digital painting pretty much from ctrlpaint, so there's that.

[Anonymous No.2063583]

>>2061175
Drew this at art school on like friday. It was from an inverted reference. When I photographed the drawing I reversed the image back. Can't get any fucking followers on tumblr or anything fucking gay like that. I just want to sell my shit. I'll post more if you dudes are interested.

http://peterandrewdellas.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2063584]

>>2063195

You've got potential bro add me on skype and I promise I'll crit you good, my skype name is: devestation.dave

[Anonymous No.2063589]

>>2063551
>believing this is chickenscratch

have fun never making it, anon

[Anonymous No.2063591]

>>2063589

Hate to break it to you, but that is most definitely chicken scratch. Not the most severe example I've ever seen but it's still chicken scratch. I'd like to know what you think the term means, that might clear up a few things.

[Anonymous No.2063592]

>>2063498
Looking good, but why the label/signature thing?

[Anonymous No.2063596]

>>2063592

not the anon who posted but it clearly says "figure drawing study 09 @ 220 secs"

[Anonymous No.2063600]

[Anonymous No.2063612]

>>2063572
Thanks, I will give it a look.

[Anonymous No.2063615]

>>2063591
read it again, I don't feel like repeating myself:
>>2063483

[Anonymous No.2063634]

>>2063615

As I suspected your understanding of chicken scratching is wrong, there's a difference between exploratory sketching and petting your lines. Just understand that you are wrong and basically alone in your opinion.

[Anonymous No.2063639]

>>2063634
>>2063615
fucking shut up and follow me on tumblr you pieces of shit!!!

[Anonymous No.2063678]

>>2063592
thanks and it's not a signature, it helps me to keep track especially since i want to do it over a longer timespan
it says >>2063596
figure drawing study 09 @ 120 secs

so when i in a few years am at "figure drawing study xyz @ yx secs" i can see how much or little i improved.

I think it's important to get into a habit of labeling things to keeps the amount of data in order.

[Anonymous No.2063685]

>>2063483
Shut up chickenscratcher. Either commit to the lines or die trying.

[Anonymous No.2063701]

>>2063634
Just want to jump in & say you understand it. On the other hand, kinda pointless arguing with people on 4chan :)

[Anonymous No.2063705]

>>2063701

Arguing on 4chan is a different beast. You're not arguing your point to the guy you're arguing with, simply because he's probably beyond the deep end and nothing short of an intervention will get him to change his mind.

No, you argue for the lurkers with no strong opinion on the subject, so you can help curb the spread of retardation in this godforsaken place.

[Anonymous No.2063706]

>>2063705
>>2063701
>>2063685
shut the fuck uppppppp go draw faggots you only live once

[Anonymous No.2063707]

>>2063706

I'm on /ic/ to get and receive critique and guidance. What's wrong with critique on a board that's literally called "Artwork/critique"?

If you're gonna complain about something complain about the constant "popular DA artist shitfest" threads you get here.

[Anonymous No.2063708]

>>2063707
im complaining about you dips arguing over trivial shit that can be googled in seconds

[Anonymous No.2063711]

>>2063708

Someone's buttfustrated. Maybe you need to go and draw anon :^)

[Anonymous No.2063731]

perspective, how do you eat it?

[Anonymous No.2063751]

>>2063731
you post too often
and they're not worthwhile posts.
also try to work on a piece for longer than 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.2063799]

[Anonymous No.2063806]

>>2063751
what this guy said

[Anonymous No.2063811]

>>2063708

Shut up cunt, education should be encouraged. The whole point in having definitions for words is so that everybody can understand each other, it only takes one misinformed idiot to potentially bring everyone else down, so it's not just trivial shit, it's important.
The only person not contributing anything is you.
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.2063813]

How's it looking? How can I push my values? I try to paint like Anthony Jones but it's hard as fuk

[Anonymous No.2063820]

>>2063751
>you post too often
Not that anon, but I also wonder about where I should post my daily exercises. Sometimes it doesn't seem right to post in the beginner threads because it feels like I'm running in the special Olympics.

Also, you get shit on for posting animu anywhere outside the style thread...

Sketchbook thread? These are sometimes only for traditional.

[Anonymous No.2063835]

>>2063751
You are mistaken me for someone else anon

[Anonymous No.2063838]

>>2063820
> where I should post my daily exercises
I think that exercises with perspective, color, light, and anatomy should be on the beginner thread. Drawings and paintings that aren't aimed at the fundamentals should be posted here.

>, you get shit on for posting animu anywhere outside the style thread..
Just post Anime stuff there. I don't think anyone will give you too much shit about anime here if its really good.

> it doesn't seem right to post in the beginner threads because it feels like I'm running in the special Olympics
What? Its not like the skill level jumps dramatically from the draw thread and the beginner thread. Sure, stuff here is better than most stuff posted there, but its not too far off at times. I honestly feel like that place should be renamed to the Fundamentals Thread.

[Anonymous No.2063885]

What do you guys think?
I feel like the dude's stance is kinda off.

[Anonymous No.2063896]

>>2063838
>that place should be renamed to the Fundamentals Thread
Totally agree.

[Anonymous No.2063919]

What should I look into to improve?

[Anonymous No.2063931]

>>2063919
probably finish mainly.

it doesn't have to be all polished up spick and span but it does need consistency, a 'style' basically. (even though /ic/ hates that word)

[you can stop reading here if you're okay with the concept of a consistent style]

like think of a font, each letter is related to the other letters so when you see them arranged in text there's an overall impression and no jarring inconsistencies.

you want to have the same thing with your pictures, your 'A' has to be in the same style as your 'B' and both 'A' and 'B' have to fit into the overall impression you want to make.

[Anonymous No.2063941]

Hey guys,
I just wonder if I can use all the tricks & techniques learned in 2pt in a 3pt situation. I've done the gnomon vids and NMA perspective series so far.

[Anonymous No.2063950]

[Anonymous No.2063962]

>>2063813
looks nice, but im new at drawing so i can't tell you how to improve ;p

[Anonymous No.2064002]

>>2063885
Shit, lemme re-size that, my b

[Anonymous No.2064059]

>>2063813

Tried adding color, still not satisfied with the render, gotta study more

[Anonymous No.2064064]

>>2064002
his right leg's fucked, specifically his foot.

[Anonymous No.2064090]

need to find energy is

[Anonymous No.2064097]

>>2064090
What you need to find is Loomis.

[Anonymous No.2064116]

>>2064097
Workin on it anon, but still want understand energy

[Anonymous No.2064123]

>>2064116

stoooop, learn anatomy before you even attempt to do that

[Anonymous No.2064125]

>>2064116
is this better now?

[Anonymous No.2064128]

>>2064123
i mean now, sry for this spam

[Anonymous No.2064129]

>>2064125
I really truly can't tell what you changed

[Anonymous No.2064131]

>>2064128
Still can't tell

[Anonymous No.2064133]

struggling a bit in witch color to take for their skin, plz help me anon :c

[Anonymous No.2064134]

>>2064131
can u add redlines cuz i relly dont's see how it should be in good anatomy

[Anonymous No.2064151]

Got bit out of hand, friend told me what to do. I'm still seriously high.

[Anonymous No.2064156]

>>2064133
If you want to make her more human, try adding some warmth to the halftones
For whatever reason though, I'm not used to witches having human skin tones, maybe clean her values up a bit and make the other person's skin more human? Also witch's far arm looks kinda funky, consider reconstructing.

[Anonymous No.2064163]

>>2064156
>elp me anon :c
fuk i would say "which' not witch :/ sry for my badenglish, but ty for the advice i didn't notice that arm prob before

[Anonymous No.2064202]

WIP using reference. The face is still bothering me.

[Anonymous No.2064218]

The perspective is broken as fuck on a few places, but I have no idea how to detail something.

Any hints ?

[Anonymous No.2064261]

>>2064064
Where would you place/angle the foot?
Rotate to the left? Turn the leg slightly?

C'mon anon, gimme something

[Anonymous No.2064271]

>>2064202
You should see more nostril from this angle.

[Anonymous No.2064288]

>>2064218
Cheat

[Anonymous No.2064299]

inked a bit more
when i started this drawing i thought i made the head too big, now i think i might have made it too small???

[Anonymous No.2064303]

>>2064299
his arms should be a little lower

[Anonymous No.2064319]

>>2064299
Think his ear needs to be closer to the eye? I'm not sure but I see what you mean... try messing with the ear and jaw line's a bit? think the way his left shoulder is angled in terms of the way his neck/head are facing is a little off, too.

[Anonymous No.2064327]

>>2064288
I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.2064332]

>>2064303
really? i already lowered them once and i thought it'd be okay now. ah well, i'll try again

>>2064319
oh, i see what you mean about the ear, i didn't even catch that. and yeah, when i started the drawing his body was facing more forward, but i switched it so the body was facing the side more, so yeah everything's off in the shoulder/neck area. i'll look up some references and see what i can do to fix it

[Anonymous No.2064395]

Red ballpoint pen on paper. No access to a scanner. Any tips for drawing with ballpoint pens in general?

[Anonymous No.2064407]

>>2064395
use pencils instead

[Anonymous No.2064526]

rocks

[Anonymous No.2064532]

[Anonymous No.2064560]

>>2064526
Thought your sky was a little dull so I gave it some more color.

>just noticed the face on the rocks as I'm typing this

[Anonymous No.2064567]

>>2061184
Work on the top of the hood. His head shouldn't have an indent in it

[Anonymous No.2064574]

>>2061241
Torso
Torso
Torso
>>2062425
Her head needs more work, mainly the hood wrapping. See>>2061184
>>2062802
>artistic licence

[Anonymous No.2064596]

>>2064560
thanks mate, I think it looks better!
>just noticed the face on the rocks as I'm typing this
haha!

[Anonymous No.2064611]

[Anonymous No.2064613]

Class drawing I never finished

[Anonymous No.2064655]

iPad fag here again. Just realized how fucked the leg placement is on this. Could I get some help fixing it?

[Anonymous No.2064658]

>>2061474
lefty has a very, very long torso

[Anonymous No.2064660]

>>2062920
nice
his left eye looks a little flat though, the iris doesn't seem like it's on a sphere.

[Anonymous No.2064671]

>>2064611
reminds me of the OP

[Anonymous No.2064742]

>>2064655
I think his left leg needs to be lifted up more and his right leg needs to be longer; the thigh is longer than the lower leg. Maybe bring his left foot in a bit more, too to make the balance make sense, he looks like he's about to fall on his ass X3

[Anonymous No.2064748]

>>2064742
Yeah, the falling on his ass bit is what I got from it too

[Anonymous No.2064750]

>>2061439
I know what you mean, it's hard to find reference images. I managed to dredge up very few, though that maayyy be able to help with the birds eye angle you're trying to accomplish. You're doing well, so keep practicing!

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Body-Angle-Book-preview-443891671
http://mayorlight.deviantart.com/art/RK-Ana-hi-angle-145987363
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Standing-11-Bird-s-Eye-View-C-395930004 (he's a bit scrawny but the angles are very sharp, and his build makes it easy to work with)

Good luck, anon!

[Anonymous No.2064753]

>>2064261
The right foot needs to be angled more to the right. Bend his knee more to the right, too, looks like it's almost broken.

[Anonymous No.2064756]

thoughts on this? its my first painting from imagination.

[Anonymous No.2064762]

>>2063498
next day next figures, question remains: what else should i practice to improve on anatomy and on how much time should i allocate to it

>>2064202
I saw your close up on tumblr. For me it looks still kinda lifeless

[Anonymous No.2064763]

>>2064762
forgot file, genious

[Anonymous No.2064794]

>>2064202
Hope you have the patience to finish rendering it, i'm really enjoying this, weird pose and all

[Anonymous No.2064805]

>>2064794
lengthen the arms or she looks a bit babyish. Her chin is also too big imo.

[Anonymous No.2064825]

>>2063399
>>2063551
>>2063589
>>2063591
>>2063634
Hey guys, it's the original poster of the "chickenscratch" image. This was a doodle that became a character study. None of this was meant to be super amazing. I was wanting feedback on the style and if it somewhat resembled the original style. I agree chicken scratch is not good and makes a piece looks like a child did it, but it was just to get a rough outline of the anatomy. I appreciate those defending it but it was kinda meant to be a rough sketch. Nothing final.

[Anonymous No.2064877]

>>2063634
Uhhh, you ignored all of the points where I called you out on your bullshit to make an idiotic comparison between drawings with completely different goals, methods and limitations. All you are showing is that you suck at drawing. Stop giving advice and accept it instead. Or get out of /ic/.

>>2063685
Same for you.

[Anonymous No.2064971]

i need to learn more about color theory, but i this set of colors set a nice mood.
also moved the ear/jaw over and the arms down a bit

[Anonymous No.2064974]

i need to learn more about color theory, but i think this set of colors set a nice mood.
also moved the ear/jaw over and the arms down a bit

[Anonymous No.2064975]

>>2061175 drawing o mine

[Anonymous No.2064977]

>>2064975
the other side

[Anonymous No.2064980]

>>2064977
>>2064975
see a therapist.

[Anonymous No.2064986]

Next I will put some texture on it
Still not content with the lightning...

[Anonymous No.2064989]

Can someone explain me why her face looks craper when i dezoom her, is there any color rules about how i should render things when they are far or not ?

[Anonymous No.2064995]

>>2064980
so... you get the drawing

[Anonymous No.2064998]

Just check out this animation for some inspiration
youtu.be/pn6MOXq9CBQ

[Anonymous No.2065002]

>>2064998
Glorious peace of art

[Anonymous No.2065003]

H-here I go

[Anonymous No.2065005]

Another one. They are sketchy, but it's about the best i can do.

[Anonymous No.2065022]

>>2064825

This is the wrong place if you want any conceptual critique of a work. At best you're gonna get shit about your anatomy or your technique.

[Anonymous No.2065023]

[Anonymous No.2065034]

>>2064762
What do you mean by lifeless? Please elaborate.

[Anonymous No.2065051]

tonight's observation practice. I'm not done with it yet, still blocking in the shadows etc

[Anonymous No.2065058]

>>2064989
The face doesn't look crap because it's rendered poorly, it looks crap because the construction is way off.
The far eye is a lot smaller and further down the face than the close one. I would also try moving the lips further up the face, closer to the nose.

[Anonymous No.2065101]

wip

[Anonymous No.2065115]

>>2061439
Lower right seems to suggest more of a top-down angle with the feet placement but the top half looks more from a level perspective.

[Anonymous No.2065118]

>>2065101
its the retarded expression guy with donkey teeth and car tires as mouth.

[Anonymous No.2065120]

>>2065101
... Maybe try celshading and flat colors

[Anonymous No.2065122]

>>2065118
Yes

[Anonymous No.2065151]

>>2064989
The more concerning issue is her right arm. Why does it taper so much into the shoulder? Also, her sleeves don't match, and her forearm is too long compared to her upper arm

[Anonymous No.2065152]

>>2065022
I can see that now.

[Anonymous No.2065159]

>>2065051
It looks awesome, but it doesn't look like the picture. The head is too tall and some facial features are too thick, like the nose, upper lip, and chin. And it's not just bigger, the proportions are off

[Anonymous No.2065169]

>>2065120
I'm not sure what's wrong with it.
>>2065118
rude

[Anonymous No.2065201]

most recent thing ive done what do you think /ic/?

[Anonymous No.2065204]

>>2065201
polished turd.

[Anonymous No.2065207]

>>2065204
what could be improved on it or what is the main issues?

[Anonymous No.2065219]

>>2065207
reptile face is flat
ugly colors
it feels like it should be something dynamic but i dont feel the energy here it feels like its a marble.

I dont like it. Try to do lots of sketches and when people will like it then do something polished.

[Anonymous No.2065223]

>>2065219
thanks yo ill take it into consideration though i dont understand what you mean by marble

also ill be doing lots more sketches but at the same time i will be doing polished works as well for the experience no reason not to just do both

[Anonymous No.2065225]

this was supposed to be clean and inked for tomorrow. fuck neon light tables
jeez

[Anonymous No.2065228]

Friday night lazy sketching.

[Anonymous No.2065233]

>>2065225
it looks clean
also what the fuck are you drawing it for ? churches ? you want to be m. angelo ?
faggot.
>>2065228
when people do stuff they dont just move one part of their body he looks stiff. Are you useing black ? if so fucking dont.

[Anonymous No.2065235]

[Anonymous No.2065236]

here's my first zbrush sculpt. can I get a critique on the face?

[Anonymous No.2065245]

>>2065233
Yeah its for a priest I know. its not clean at all you cockmuncher, most lines are wiggly waggly and its filled with eraser signs and shit

[Anonymous No.2065251]

>>2065245
it looks good you gayassexplorer.

[Anonymous No.2065272]

>>2065101
softened the face

[Anonymous No.2065273]

>>2062063
Lol did you find the correct lines yet?

[Anonymous No.2065276]

>>2065272
It does look better, but you really need to work on the lips.

[Anonymous No.2065277]

>>2065273
You do know that it would be easy to clean up right?

[Anonymous No.2065279]

>>2065272
now get rid of those fucking tire lips

you know that lips are not as thick at the ends as in the middle ?

[Anonymous No.2065289]

[Anonymous No.2065292]

>>2065277
>clean up
Lol

[Anonymous No.2065297]

>>2065289
maybe im just blind but I dont get what the hell you're trying to draw

[Anonymous No.2065299]

>>2065292
whatever you say, I'll let you get back to draw then.

[Anonymous No.2065304]

[Anonymous No.2065308]

hm. I'm not trying to be perfect, obviously, but comments?

[Anonymous No.2065318]

I'm not an artist - not even an aspiring one - just doodle occasionally. What's your opinion on this, taking into account it's not meant to be realistic in the slightest? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2065338]

>>2065304

And this space guy.

[Anonymous No.2065387]

New thread:
>>2065385
>>2065385

[Anonymous No.2065433]

>>2064974
Alrighty that's really nice ^^ good job, mate. Also, yes, the colours set a calm and chill mood :3

[Anonymous No.2065434]

>>2065005
lol clever

[Anonymous No.2065442]

>>2065289
I stared at this for a good ten minutes and my conclusion? Yeah that makes no sense. Add some shading, colour or define some lines to convey whatever it is you're doing better.

[Anonymous No.2065445]

>>2065308
Very pretty, try to make her jaw a little less rounded and add more transition to your shading if you want to make changes. I think it's still really nice, though

[Anonymous No.2065522]

>>2065236
>>/3/

[Anonymous No.2065887]

>>2062059
looks dope as fuck

[Anonymous No.2065897]

>>2065338
I like this

[Anonymous No.2066351]

>>2065318
nothing special or particularly impressive

>>2065304
i like your lines anon

[Anonymous No.2067985]

one hour photo study that i just pooped out