Beginner Thread #75

[None !NANNANNANA No.2050965]

here we go again: SAMPLE OPs PIC COLORS AND DO SOMETHING COOL WITH THEM

As usual:
>Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.

(dont forget to resize+jpg before posting 4mb pngs)

OLD THREAD: >>2047254

[Anonymous No.2050995]

Time for female...

[Anonymous No.2051007]

I'm hoping to use this base I drew for a character. Are there any glaring anatomy issues?

[Anonymous No.2051023]

>>2051007
Everything is super spindly. The head is a literal pentagon.

[Anonymous No.2051028]

>one point perspective study

i feel like the boxes in the middle should be high but is the vantage point to high?

also nevermind the chicken scratching. where im working is less than ideal so im going to clean everything up later

[Anonymous No.2051031]

>>2051028
testing a resize app i got just for you guys

[Anonymous No.2051035]

>>2051023
>literal pentagon
dont you just hate it when your heads are methaphorical pentagons?

[Anonymous No.2051037]

>>2051031
ot: but i like the double shadow form the hands

[Anonymous No.2051061]

>>2051037
dual light sources all up in this bitch

[Anonymous No.2051128]

>>2050995
that guy has 8 abs..?

[Anonymous No.2051221]

>>2051007
>>2051023
I tried adding a bit more meat and a proper head on him but his arm on the right seems a bit fucky to me.

[Anonymous No.2051247]

>>2051128
Humans have 8 abdominal muscles

[Anonymous No.2051252]

>>2051221
Your legs are missing the iliotibial tract, the iliotibial band, basically everything that laterally connects to the knee area.

[Anonymous No.2051266]

How do I stop doing this to my heads

I've tried not being retarded, but then it ends up looking way more retarded

[Anonymous No.2051277]

>>2051031
...are you the guy with the castle in the clouds?

[Anonymous No.2051286]

[Anonymous No.2051287]

>>2051286

[Anonymous No.2051288]

>>2051277
yep is my perspective getting better?

[Anonymous No.2051290]

Tips for doing rock faces?

[Anonymous No.2051292]

>>2051288
>>2051277
i even cleaned it up see

[Anonymous No.2051295]

>>2051290

color: planes facing upward cold, planes facing downward warm,

value: the more upward or straight downward facing the plane the higher the value, all planes facing straight forward equal value, blablabla. get going.

[Anonymous No.2051310]

>>2051295

kinda like so

[Anonymous No.2051342]

iknowisuck..... but still its good to draw.....

[Anonymous No.2051345]

Bought the intuos manga today. what should I work on? I'm assuming there's a lot here I can improve on.

[Anonymous No.2051351]

>>2051342
>>2051345

Read the sticky.

Work on everything.

[foxdit No.2051354]

Doing lots of quick sketches and renders lately. Gonna continue anatomy and perspective tomorrow instead of spending all day doing these. I need to be hitting the books harder instead of just practicing all day. Muh knowledge.

[Anonymous No.2051361]

>>2051345
I got the same one when I started drawing a week ago. I tried to use it to get better at drawing in general but I think paper is more suited for that.

See the pic for some of the potato faces I drew when working trough Loomis. I've switched to Hampton for now because it felt like Loomis didn't work for me.

[Anonymous No.2051399]

>>2051292
One-point, yeah, I guess.

[Anonymous No.2051405]

>>2051361
holy shit
>those cheeks and eyebrows
Adorable as fuck.

[Anonymous No.2051442]

Started with "Drawing on the right side of the brain", achieved very good portraits
Started Loomis, I can't get good portraits anymore since it's way harder not to mess up with the head tilting and everything else snowballs into fuckery

[Anonymous No.2051450]

Started with "Drawing on the right side of the brain", achieved very good portraits
Started Loomis, I can't get good portraits anymore since it's way harder not to mess up with the head tilting and everything else snowballs into fuckery

[Anonymous No.2051453]

What does /ic/ think?

[Anonymous No.2051458]

after going trough loomis' FWAP learning from villpu's draing manual feels kinda strange, its like everything I know up til now is nothing or something like this.
Maybe I took the wrong path?

[Anonymous No.2051501]

>>2051450
Start by getting decent ref with models that conform to normal human anatomy. That girl needs more Loomis herself, her eyes are too far apart.

[Anonymous No.2051523]

>>2051501
why am I laughing so hard at this.

[Anonymous No.2051562]

I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, but I'm trying freehand perspective. I definitely need more hours before I move on to 2-point.

[Anonymous No.2051581]

[Anonymous No.2051703]

>>2051450
You learned how to copy in DotRSotB. You must now learn how to construct. I recommend reading a book on perspective instead of jumping into Loomis.

[Anonymous No.2051705]

How do I make my paintings look less smooth and more "gritty"?

[Anonymous No.2051710]

>>2051705
You're not even studying the hair man. You need to let go off this idea in your head of representing hair with lines and instead using shapes

[Anonymous No.2051794]

>>2051581
nicee

his thighs are a bit fat in the front view though

[Anonymous No.2051804]

>>2051705
go traditional or use a filter

[Anonymous No.2051819]

a friend of mine asked me to draw cinderella (for whatever reason)
so i found a picture of some girl in this pose and put cinderella in its position. howd i do? took me 1 hour and id like to know how and where to improve

[Anonymous No.2051820]

>>2051819
ref pic.

[Anonymous No.2051851]

>>2051804
When I read that I was already inking, thanks for the advice thou!

>>2051581
I think I am done with this, do you guys thing I should push the values some more, and maybe ad some line weight?

Also it looks better in person
>tfw no scanner

[Anonymous No.2051856]

>>2051705
a textured brush maybe

[Anonymous No.2051868]

>>2051851
Construction is kinda wonky. Might be your inking though. Otherwise, I like it, looks fine if a bit bland.

[foxdit No.2051879]

>>2051819
What in the world does this have to do with Cinderella? Are you hiding a lack of skills behind a pose that doesn't reveal any character details? I'll let someone else comment on the anatomy but I will say I like that you toned the background and that you actually drew her hands instead of hiding them. Those feet though...

[Anonymous No.2051881]

>>2051819
>>2051820
The stiiiickyyyyy

Read it

[Anonymous No.2051884]

>>2051868
Yeah nah, its differently wonky, especially the chest piece of the 1st view.
What can I do to make it less bland?
I was thinking about adding some serial numbers and factory logos, and so on...

[Anonymous No.2051895]

>>2051884
I'd add a serial number to the chest.
The coloring is what's bland, though. It's just generic and doesn't have a lot of personality. The character is also very symmetric; especially those two pouches, one on each side. Besides that antenna on the head, everything is symmetric and it really hurts the drawing.

[Anonymous No.2051897]

>>2051819
I know this is probably the least important thing I could tell you but that doesn't resembles cinderella at all

[Anonymous No.2051898]

>>2051819
That's pretty bad. Perspective, construction, gesture are what you should learn. Perspective because it aids construction, construction because it's what you should be doing and gesture because it helps in analyzing the reference and telling a story.
So far, you just copied the reference (badly) and changed the details. That's not really good.

[Anonymous No.2051903]

>>2051895
Noted, ill keep it in mind for the next one. Thanks a lot!

[Anonymous No.2051919]

Tried a Loomis without a reference. I won't even try to draw hair since my last attempt took two minutes for the face/half an hour for the hair and the result looked like it was torn out of the Necronomicon

[foxdit No.2051963]

My figures often end up like this-- right on that edge of uncanny valley. Honestly when I look at the two figures side by side I can't REALLY see what's different. Then I overlap them and often am quite shocked at how wrong things are. Can anyone give some advice on how to be more accurate with my contours and volumes? Advice on measuring and the like?

[Anonymous No.2051980]

Help me

[Anonymous No.2051982]

>>2051963

One tool to use: check negative spaces. For example: look at the space in between your model's right arm and side and the reference's right arm and side, also right below your model's left boob and the reference's right boob.

[Anonymous No.2051985]

>>2051963
Analyze, don't copy. Having a perfectly copied figure doesn't mean jack shit. You want to understand the volumes. Look at those breasts, for instance. You didn't understand them at all. Observe how they curve around the ribcage.
Don't be afraid to exaggerate. Don't aim for a perfect copy. Push that gesture.

[Anonymous No.2051994]

>>2051963
if you use a reference, as long as proportions and volumes are right, there's nothing wrong if the copy is not perfect. There are some errors here and there, and please draw hands and feet, but the result is not bad.

If you want perfect copies, read 'drawing on the right side of the brain'

[Anonymous No.2052011]

rate muh fanart

[Anonymous No.2052013]

>>2052011
shit/10gentoppa

[Anonymous No.2052015]

>>2051994

Just to tag-team with this guy: yeah, the result isn't bad. The posture is less exaggerated than in the reference, and that's a typical for people trying to draw from reference, but it's not bad.

[foxdit No.2052030]

>>2052015
>>2051994
>>2051985
>>2051982
Thanks for the feedback! Negative space is a GREAT tool, and being reminded to try to analyze the volume and how the anatomy would interact with each other was just what the doc ordered. Keep on being bros

[Anonymous No.2052031]

>>2051980
his head has a slight tilt that you're leaving out. his nose is wider than in your drawing, and correspondingly, his eyes are slightly wider apart in the picture, they're also more narrow. his mouth is too small, and there isn't a clear distinction between his face and his multi-chin yet , so it makes his face looks too small for his head.

keep at it. since you're drawing digitally, mark some angles on your refs to keep your proportions correct.

[Anonymous No.2052072]

Ever since I started drawing seriously, I haven't had the urge to beat my meat.

[Anonymous No.2052089]

>>2052072
Ever since i started drawing seriously, I became more observant and I notice physical features that i never did before in my husband. Now i have sex with him even more.
Loser

[Anonymous No.2052113]

>>2051266
Construction and flipping the canvas

[Anonymous No.2052149]

>>2052072
Your libido probably wasn't even that high, you just had nothing better to do in your free time but spank the monkey.

[foxdit No.2052158]

My WIP Elf Princess from the TG thread. Mainly interested in studying light and using it to describe forms. How's it coming along? I need fresh eyes. Most of the remaining work to do is on rendering her body. Any suggestions for going forward are welcome!

[Anonymous No.2052160]

>>2052158
Her nose and mouth look a bit off.

[foxdit No.2052163]

>>2052158
In general? or with regards to reference? Because I'm not trying to copy the reference's face at all.

[foxdit No.2052164]

>>2052160
In general? or with regards to reference? Because I'm not trying to copy the reference's face at all.

[Anonymous No.2052165]

nobody on the clors yet?

[Anonymous No.2052169]

It's something r-right?

[Anonymous No.2052173]

>>2052164
In general, the mouth's a tiny bit too big. I can't pinpoint what's wrong with the nose. May be just me.

[Anonymous No.2052179]

Drew some heads

[Anonymous No.2052183]

>>2052169
it is

[Anonymous No.2052301]

>>2052169
thats actually pretty good barring the ear

[Anonymous No.2052312]

how do I get my faces out of the uncanny valley?

[Anonymous No.2052318]

>>2052312
Uncanny valley isn't synonymous with shit, anon.

[Anonymous No.2052321]

>>2052312
are leaning more to cartoons or realism?

[Anonymous No.2052339]

>>2052312
well you can stop drawing chin-chan for starters.

[Anonymous No.2052345]

>>2052321
I want to start with realism, then maybe move onto a more cartoony style when I know what I'm doing.
>>2052318
>>2052339
So basically, go back to studying facial proportions for awhile

[Anonymous No.2052349]

>>2052345
Yup. Read some books. Do some studies with reference. Post for feedback etc.

[Anonymous No.2052351]

>>2052312
referencereferencetryworkingwithreference

[Anonymous No.2052391]

Could I get some feedback on these?

(1/2)

[Anonymous No.2052392]

>>2052391

(2/2)

[Anonymous No.2052495]

>>2052345
Yeah.. do studies. This face lacks a shit ton of features that would have made it closer to realism. Like the eyes don't have tear ducts, waterline, eyelashes, an almond shape, etc. Don't be lazy. That ear was done out of laziness because it's literally just a blob.

[Anonymous No.2052499]

>>2052391
Noses don't show the nostril like that unless you're looking straight up. The rest is pretty good. I recommend you get drawing pencils of different shades.

>>2052392
This is surprisingly a bigger step up from the previous. You didn't finish drawing the nose bridge,

[Anonymous No.2052508]

>>2051342
i tried looms ... its well kinda hard ...heres my progress on the last sketch .... hands and feet are the things i wanna improve on...i just cant draw them

[Anonymous No.2052531]

>>2052391
>>2052392
Loomis and Dynamic Sketching with Peter Han are what you need.

[Anonymous No.2052542]

>>2052508

[Anonymous No.2052554]

>>2052508
>>2052542
Your sketch is shit, sorry. You need perspective, you need construction, you need to stop that chicken scratching.
Redline guy too, you're symbol drawing, you have no construction, and you're also chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.2052563]

>>2052542
thanks...

[Anonymous No.2052567]

>>2052554
oke

[Anonymous No.2052574]

>>2052542
that is literally the worst redline i have ever seen.
please please be trolling.

[Anonymous No.2052575]

Asides from
>HNNG furfag/furshit
You guys should be more mature than that
How is it for a (combined) 15-ish minute doodle?

[Anonymous No.2052578]

>>2052575
From the head down, bad. The head shows some knowledge of construction, at least. The figure is very stiff, and you know jack shit about dogs.

[Anonymous No.2052583]

>>2052578
The funny thing is, I actually used structure, I erased most of the guide lines and such. Some of them are still kinda visible.
But yea, mostly just practice. I'm still trying at least.
>Knows jack shit about dogs
I own 3 :^)

[Anonymous No.2052587]

>>2052583
What makes you want to fuck them?

[Anonymous No.2052591]

>>2052583
Just because you stick your dick in them doesn't mean you understand them, furfaggot.

[Anonymous No.2052592]

>>2052587
>>2052591
well that escalated quickly

[Anonymous No.2052596]

>>2052508
Here, a 5-minute "redline" that ain't a redline 'cause it ain't overlayed. Did my best with that stiff gesture and those proportions.

[Anonymous No.2052618]

>>2052596
thanks but i am trying to get a specific hourglass look to the body ... it may seem not in proportion but its suposed to be like this..and wtf happend to captcha? bread seriously... this is some fucked up trolling

[Anonymous No.2052645]

>>2052618

His model actually has a hourglass figure, yours has more of a no guts syndrom. Like try sketching a skeleton into the body you drew.

[Anonymous No.2052647]

>>2052645
hmmmm.... well not that kinda realistic figure atleast.... kinda tryna draw those disney girl figure.... no guts it is for me then >.>

[Anonymous No.2052652]

>>2052647

>not drawing huge guts
Its like you don't want to rip and tear.

[Anonymous No.2052654]

>>2052647
>muh style
Why even bother posting here if you don't want to improve?

[Anonymous No.2052674]

New to art, first post.

I feel like it's out of proportion
Sorry for shitty quality, had to take with phone
Any crit is welcome

[Anonymous No.2052677]

>>2052674
Fixed
No reference used.

[Anonymous No.2052684]

>>2052677
most obvious flaws - fucked arms and breasts, long ribcage

[Anonymous No.2052689]

>>2052684
I see the ribcage mistake now, how should i change the arms wider? longer?

[Anonymous No.2052690]

>>2052689
They're quite thin. This is the stage where you should use reference. No hand hiding, either.

[Anonymous No.2052694]

>>2052690
Will do, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2052696]

>>2052677
Chicken scratching, wrong proportions, bad construction, hand hiding, stiff gesture, etc.

[Anonymous No.2052722]

Trying some painting in black and white before I tackle colors. I'd love any critique you guys have on Pic related. Also If anyone has some head references I could practice on that would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.2052741]

>>2052654
its one thing about getting better and another thing about drawing something ya dont want to.... i took the chicken shit thing seriously and am tryin to work on not doing chicken shits ... forms , proportions etc... but thats the figure i wnanna draw so thats what i am gonna draw..that red line guy got it and pointed out a few mistakes like the year and the arm and the face and the eye...i say hes preety good

[Anonymous No.2052827]

>>2052587
>>2052591
Please, that's disgusting

[Anonymous No.2052838]

>>2052677
Use the damn refs.

[Anonymous No.2052883]

>>2052741
lel

[Anonymous No.2052884]

>>2052741

You fucked up the drawing because you do not understand the underlying forms.

The study anatomy is not just a meme here. If you want to draw humans even stylized ones, you gotta start with normal ones.

[Anonymous No.2052920]

Did some Loomis today. They look weird but at least they look like human faces.
Any tips?
I'll switch to figure drawing for a bit

[Anonymous No.2052925]

>>2052920
they're a little bit flat, and perhaps a little too formulaic, i think the switch to figure drawing is what you need so nice instincts i guess.

[Anonymous No.2052928]

>>2052920
I think you're copying Loomis too much. You should draw your own potato heads.
Actually, scratch that. Draw carrot heads. Draw apple heads. Draw eggplant heads. Try to construct with all the shapes you can, arrange them in all kinds of ways. Try to get a handle on actually constructing.
If you want to switch to figures, then do this with figures. I could whip up a demonstration if you like.

[Anonymous No.2052930]

>>2052925
>>2052928
thank you

>>2052928
well, if you could, it would be very appreciated

[Anonymous No.2052940]

Week four of Hampton. The further down, the newer.
I'm pretty satisfied with myself. I'll get an anatomy book after I finish the eight weeks so I can fill in the gaps, and after that I should be good enough to draw figures from imagination.
Particularly, the serratus is kind of giving me headaches.

>>2052930
Give me a minute.

[Anonymous No.2052958]

>>2052925
When I don't copy Loomis, I end up drawing faces with exaggerated features, kinda pic related. But I get Loomis is about construction, so even wolf eyes would do if everything else is correct.

>>2052940
Take your time. Great work btw

[Anonymous No.2052989]

>>2052958
I'm tired as hell, but here you go. This is basically the Vilppu approach: construct stuff out of volumes.
Should help you get a handle on construction. You should also pick up something on perspective if you haven't already.

[Anonymous No.2052997]

>>2052940
Arrogant Dickflasher made me lol

[Anonymous No.2053021]

I can't really construct so I rely on luck and the varying amount of concentration I happen to be in. so I get like one decent thing and 10 that are fucked.

[Anonymous No.2053043]

>>2052989
very appreciated! thanks again

[Anonymous No.2053045]

>>2052940

Are you following a book for this?

[Anonymous No.2053052]

give it to me straight doc

[Anonymous No.2053053]

>>2053045
No. I am following "Analytical Figure Drawing" by Michael Hampton. It's eight lectures for eight weeks. This is the homework he gives out.
You can find the whole series on CGPeers.

[Anonymous No.2053056]

>>2053021
stuff looks okay. looks like you don't have a good understand of the secondary forms of the head. so perhaps you can draw some faces, from ref or life, without features, eyes etc. and just make sure you're sure about those volumes, the muzzles, the cheek bones. etc. you can do them in cross-contour if you're not confident using shading.

good expressions though, very lively.

[Anonymous No.2053057]

>>2053053

Ah darn, dont have an acc there. Will hunt the series down somewhere tough thanks.

[Anonymous No.2053058]

>>2052940
Week four, how long have you been drawing for total though?

I'm doing hampton too, but I feel like I've bitten off more than I could chew. Still doing shitty gesture drawings. It's killing me. Your stuff looks good though.

[Anonymous No.2053061]

I'm working on this one at the moment.

[Anonymous No.2053062]

>>2053058
What do you mean by total? Total time actually spent drawing?
I follow the recommendation and sit a week on the lectures. If my schedule permits I dedicate a couple of hours a day for the homework. I usually don't have that luxury though, so I end up doing only half. Then I move on to the next lecture.
I usually post my stuff in the beginner thread at the end of each week.

[Anonymous No.2053065]

>>2053062
Yes how long have you been drawing total. If it's 4 weeks then I'm really slacking off.

Mind posting your gestures?

[Anonymous No.2053068]

>>2053061
>Soldier.jpg
Just call master chief, copying isn't illegal.

[Anonymous No.2053072]

>>2053065
https://imgur.com/a/5cyfX

[Anonymous No.2053074]

>>2053072
Okay dude, give it to me straight. How long have you been really drawing for? I know this shouldn't be, but it's crushing to me. Your stuff looks way more advanced.

[Anonymous No.2053078]

>>2053072
please tell me those are referenced

[Anonymous No.2053090]

>>2053074
Well, I've been pretty much drawing all my life, man. Ever since I could hold a pencil.
My first encounter with an "art book" was with a Disney magazine that taught both drawing and writing. It was full of great advice I had no idea how to use.
It was in 2012 that I started glancing at Loomis and getting utterly bored of his shit. Never got past the twentieth page. Pic related is a scan from that period. I then gradually stopped drawing. This shat up my skills. A year or two later I bought a book by Bammes and Color and Light by James Gurney but haven't learned shit from them aside from proportions and some stuff about reflected light. I was absolutely lazy.

A year ago I started working through Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. I never finished it, but I learned sighting and measuring.

What followed was a long hiatus, and only now, since about four months ago, I'm drawing seriously. I continued with Scott Robertson's "How to Draw" for perspective, but I wasn't interested in the industrial design part and I skipped it. Then I got into Hampton.

I dedicate my time to this and focus on it intensely. I take notes and draw along. You just need to put in the effort and make it a routine.

So yeah, here you go. Sorry for shitting up the thread with my story.

>>2053078
Yeah, they are. From life (read: photos) and from masters (read: photos of paintings).

[Anonymous No.2053111]

>>2052958 I have another question btw. Ignore the anatomy and the values being shit.
Is rendering basically done by going from A to B with the aid of the standard blending brushes (I don't know the technical name since I have my softwares in italian)?
I'm always worried about the brushes being inappropriate for what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.2053123]

>>2053090
No it's a pretty cool story bro. I see you have a nicer line than me even in 2012. I never imagined how hard little art practice would be. I'm basically a NEET and I procrastinate way too much. I'll make it a habit (famous last words) starting tomorrow morning.

Maybe I'll post my gestures soon. Once they're more presentable.

[Anonymous No.2053136]

Decided to color one of my old sketches.
Looks like somebody smeared dogshit all over it.

[Anonymous No.2053159]

Pls redline or crit before I start painting this thing

[Anonymous No.2053160]

>>2053123
I was a legit NEET for 3 years, man. It fucks with your head and you never do anything. You just masturbate and play games all day.
Go do something as soon as you can.

>>2053111
Brushes don't matter much. Technique matters. I suggest going to CtrlPaint and following through the tutorials for digital rendering.
As for the first question, yeah, more or less. You first block in values, then you blend them together. You should learn about lighting first, though.

[Anonymous No.2053161]

>>2053123

You know you dont make it a habbit by procastinating it till tommorow right? Fucking start now if you are a neet.

Like right fucking now. Procastinate everything else and draw gestures for at least 20 minutes. Then after 20 min do whatever. But start now.

[Anonymous No.2053165]

>>2053159
Sorry for bad image

[Anonymous No.2053179]

>>2053165
needs more loomis

[Anonymous No.2053189]

>>2053165
The facial anatomy is all lover the place. Super flared-nostrils, poorly placed eye, improper proportions, no forehead, hair has improper bunching/flow... I could run over almost every inch of this thing and find something to improve on but that would take too much time. Go back to basics, learn proportion, construction, anatomy. Work with reference until you get the hang of it and then some.

[Anonymous No.2053235]

what went wrong and how can I try to fix it

[Anonymous No.2053238]

>>2053235
Chicken scratch

[Anonymous No.2053240]

>>2053238
There's literally nothing wrong with chicken scratching when sketching

[Anonymous No.2053243]

>>2053189
>all lover

>>2053235
Chicken scratch, lack of anatomy knowledge. Average construction skills. Because of your chicken scratch I don't understand where that spear is going. Towards the screen? In the ground?
???

>>2053240
There literally is.

[Anonymous No.2053251]

>>2053235
thumbnail looks good

[Anonymous No.2053253]

>>2053243
jeez man, I'm just drawing with a mouse currently as my tablet is broken, so I can't do much about the chicken scratch as it's not worth the time it'd take to clean everything up.
At least be more specific about the anatomy, or is everything just that bad?

[Anonymous No.2053255]

>>2053253
yoooo nigga get some pencil and paper

[Anonymous No.2053256]

What do I set my stabilizer on?

I'm using Sai

[Anonymous No.2053264]

>>2053256
leave it at 0, practicing without it first to get good lines. After that if you want you can put it up to S-7 if you want the smoothest lines possible. If not you can go 11-15.

[Anonymous No.2053269]

>>2053253
It's not really that bad. It's pretty average.
Specifically:

1. The sternocleidomastoid attaches to the back of the head, under the ear. It follows the cylinder of the neck, then through a tendon attaches to the pit of the neck. There's also a bit coming off and attaching to the clavicle.
In your drawing, this is absent. It's just "oh, well, a line from here to here, I guess that's enough."

2. Pectoralis majoris and minoris. The former should attach to the arm and stretch a little with it. The latter, in your rather muscular character, should bulge out from under the pectoralis majoris.

3. Serratus and obliques. Where are they? You've drawn a pretty muscular character so they should show.

4. The "six-pack" you're drawing is wrong. The abdominal muscles have eight divisions, and you've started from under the sternum (!). This creates a non-existant band between pectoralis majoris and abdominal muscles (!!).
You've also considered the last part of the abdominals, attaching to the pubic bone, as two different "packs." (!!!)

5. Latissimus dorsi. Where that shit at nigga?

6. Those legs have basically no correct muscles, or at least I can't tell with the chicken scratch.

7. The arms. The deltoids should attach just above the medial part of the outer humerus. This is especially evidently wrong in the character's left arm, where they just kind of... bunch up against the trapezius.
The brachiales is also missing. It should clearly mark the division between biceps and triceps.
Forearm, I don't even know what's going on there.

I would redline it but it's late and I'm tired.

[Anonymous No.2053274]

>>2053264
Here's my dumb lines at 0. It was usually at 7

More practice, or can I do whatever the fuck I want?

[Anonymous No.2053275]

>>2053269
thanks man, I'll work on it.

[Anonymous No.2053280]

>>2053274
I like the lines, the circles need work. You can continue in 0 yes. You can watch this for help with circles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

[Lab_Rat No.2053283]

what do you think about shadows?

[Anonymous No.2053285]

>>2053283
Pillowy. Not every shadow is a soft shadow. Yours are way too blended.
And, especially in the trapezius area, you have no clear light source.
Actually, in the whole painting, there's no definite light source.

Color-wise, I dig it.

[Lab_Rat No.2053288]

>>2053283
Looks amazing, bro.

No flaws at all. Keep it up ;)

[Anonymous No.2053289]

>>2052722
Anybody ?

[Anonymous No.2053292]

Im I the new picasso?

[Anonymous No.2053295]

>>2053288
kek

[Anonymous No.2053300]

>>2053283
lol

[Anonymous No.2053304]

>>2053300
>>2053295
>>2053283

Screenshot this lads, this is proof positive of the shameful samefagging that has rum amuck.

[Anonymous No.2053307]

>>2053292
drop that book it just teaches you how to copy

useless shit

[Anonymous No.2053310]

>>2053280
Oh hey, this is pretty cool. I'll get on it right away. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2053312]

>>2053304
>thought it was a joke
>it wasn't a joke
>mfw
:^(

[Anonymous No.2053316]

>>2053312
Thought the same thing. Poe's law, I guess.

[Anonymous No.2053329]

Had to use a grid method and cheat a bit to get the figure.

Though a study I'm working on, I don't paint a lot of asian women thought I would try it out.

[Lab_Rat No.2053337]

>>2053300
That's not me! They have stolen my nickname!!!!

[Anonymous No.2053347]

>>2053337
Nice try, dork

[Lab_Rat No.2053356]

>>2053347
I'm not trying anything, I'm here for reviews of my art, I'm not here to play shit people who steal accounts of others, do not believe me if I will, from now on I will leave to use nickname to avoid problems ..., this kind of things are what make unpleasant asking for some kind of help.

[Anonymous No.2053357]

>>2053337
you'd best be leavin', now

[Anonymous No.2053358]

>>2053356
>steal accounts
I'm in literal tears, goddamn.
Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.2053407]

25 minutes worth of drawing, used a reference for once, even if it was a tumbnail sized picture. I was told not to draw on white, thats where the green BG comes from. The folds in the jacked confused me, realy hard to figure them out.

[Anonymous No.2053421]

>>2053356
Not trying anything huh.

Yet for some reason the person "posing" to be you just so happened to quickly delete the comment soon after it was made...(because you forgot the site saves your name even after a post)

Dont play stupid bro.

[Lab_Rat No.2053429]

>>2053421
why the fuck you think I lie about something like that? I can not see the need to do something like this, I just want to improve my skills, and ye are saying I'm lying.

I'm not lying, and I have no need for it, if I had lied would not be replying all above messages

[Anonymous No.2053435]

>>2053429
Does your mom know that you lie on the internet?

[Anonymous No.2053436]

>>2053407
Why not draw on white? Not questioning it, I'm just actually wondering.

[Anonymous No.2053440]

>>2053429
>would not be replying
It's called damage control, ya dingus.

[Lab_Rat No.2053442]

>>2053435
Fuck you all, if you don't believe me do not, I don't care about, I know what I I have done and what not, think what you want, here a person to stop posting on this site, Fuck you, i don't want to discuss with anyone else

[Anonymous No.2053445]

>>2053407
I think the whole drawing on white thing only really applies when you're coloring or painting, this way you can see things easier

[Anonymous No.2053449]

>>2053445
Oh, okay. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2053453]

>>2053445
Strange that the persons that told me not to draw on white knew exactly that I don't colour/paint stuff.
Choose the green cause it looked kinda pleasant.

[foxdit No.2053473]

Not too thrilled this took over an hour. Backgrounds are tough. Hard to know exactly how to go about it, besides painting from the background to the foreground. There's just so much observation, and color/texture management involved.

[Anonymous No.2053502]

>>2051310
I love you a bit.

[Anonymous No.2053514]

>>2053300
I'll try and defend this guy. I think it was a joke from another guy, there would be no point in him complimenting his own work in a beginner thread.
Especially since the only good thing in >>2053283 is the color palette. It's full of symbol drawing, lightning that makes no sense (seriously, look under the pearls of the necklace) and it looks flat.

[Anonymous No.2053521]

>>2053061
lol i drew this on paper and it said duplicate file existed
why?

[Anonymous No.2053523]

>>2053521
>>2053061

ok help me whats bad what can i do better
kinda new to drawing

[Anonymous No.2053542]

>>2053329
Hit my timelimit so I can't push this

[Anonymous No.2053557]

ONLY GOOD CRITISISTEM PLZ

[foxdit No.2053565]

The day of landscapes. Nice to take a break from figures.

[Anonymous No.2053628]

>>2053052
Love this exaggeration, looks good but maybe fix the left foot and the right shoulder should be only slightly lower.

[Anonymous No.2053629]

>>2053557
holy shit how

[Anonymous No.2053635]

[Anonymous No.2053639]

>>2053557
Nice translation

[Anonymous No.2053646]

When I watch people draw in streams, they never use construction, or rarely do. Is it something you just get rid of over time?

[Anonymous No.2053648]

>>2053646
Once you understand how the shapes work and how things fill out it's a lot faster to just go for it then it is to lay down all the gesture lines and body shapes.

[Anonymous No.2053651]

>>2053648
I see, I must be something awful if I can't draw a head with construction lines then.

[Anonymous No.2053664]

>>2053651
It's called learning buddy, there is always an ugly phase just takes hard work and dedication to break past it.

[Anonymous No.2053665]

Whee! Life drawing session! Dude's got really pronounced shoulder blades.
I had a habit of being very tight and chicken-scratchy, so I've been doing Peter Han's exercises and forcing myself to use conte charcoal on newsprint for the first time instead of graphite pencil on paper.

I think I've made a lot of progress compared to my work two months ago, but there's still a lot to work on.

I think I need to take more time to eye out proportions. Eye's a little high and legs/arms a bit weird. I had some bad lines which I restated. The whole thing's pretty messy, particularly in the definition of hands and feet (I'll have to remember to bring charcoal pencil next time).

Also, though I tried my best to not to "lie" (Force: Dynamic Life Drawing), I did have times where I got confused by the pose and failed to capture the actual feeling of the pose and merely copied the pose like a coward. Gestures are still hard as fuck for me, and it sometimes shows.

What else is wrong? What else could be improved? I'm so fucking excited that I'm making progress; I just want to get better and better and better.

[Anonymous No.2053666]

>>2053664
Yeah I'm just a selfhating NEET as of late, I'll get over it sometime. But thanks for the encouraging words.

[foxdit No.2053677]

>>2053565

The day of landscapes ends.

[foxdit No.2053679]

>>2053565
>>2053473


The day of landscapes ends.

[Anonymous No.2053686]

hey guys, I am working on this for an illustration class, I have the sketch and flat colors down, but I have no idea how to go about rendering this. It is supposed to be a dark scene with the main source of light being the monitor.

plz help

[foxdit No.2053710]

>>2053686
Use Levels to reduce overall brightness, then drop in a Multiply layer and gradient dark to light from behind you towards the screen. After that it's all about laying in values: shadows where forms point away from the monitors, and blue'ish highlights/midtone where they face them. I expect for final draft within an hour, cadet.

[Anonymous No.2053712]

>>2052312
chin chan here. tried to draw some old/young faces, does anybody have any critique before I move onto coloring? i'm still having a little bit of trouble with noses and lips

[Anonymous No.2053716]

>>2053712
and chins. I dont understand why you would draw construction lines and then not even follow the proportions of the reference.

[Anonymous No.2053718]

>>2053716
this

[Anonymous No.2053719]

>>2053712
ha that's great, it's my found art object now, ty.

[Anonymous No.2053721]

>>2053712
draw the upper lip "M" contour.
Then just draw a single "U" line for the lower lip.

[Anonymous No.2053722]

>>2053716
How would I start doing that? Would it help to trace over the face and mark off where everything is, or should I just keep eyeballing it?

[Anonymous No.2053725]

>>2052508
so i started looms figure draw.... any idea which book should i first try?

[foxdit No.2053727]

>>2053712
doooon't move on to coloring. You're still straightup symbol drawing and aren't yet thinking in 3d forms by the looks of it.

[Anonymous No.2053728]

>>2053721
got it, thank you.

[Anonymous No.2053729]

>>2053725
Face+hands

[Anonymous No.2053734]

>>2053722
You're drawing things side by side, how do you not know how to align things right next to one another? Draw the construction lines in accordance to the proportions to the reference. Draw using those lines as guidelines to help you place the features.

[Anonymous No.2053735]

>>2053729
thanks .....

and really? pasta captcha? bread was way better...... >.<

[Anonymous No.2053737]

>>2053722
Take three pens or pencils. Put your hand flat on a table. To the left of your hand, lay the pencils perpendicular to one another and aligned with the tip of your middle finger, your middle knuckle, and the bottom of your hand respectively.

Now tell me how this concept can be applied to your drawing.

[Anonymous No.2053748]

>>2053737
ok, so basically use the pencil as a level of measurement, (ie one pencil equals one length) I've heard it before, but I never really took it seriously (which explains why my art is as shit as it is, actually) Sorry. I'm new to the non-casual art world and a bit retarded. thank you.

>>2053727
ok, instead of coloring I'm going to try and redraw from the beginning, paying more attention to proportion. I'll post when I'm done

[Anonymous No.2053751]

>>2053735
Don't use emoticons unless you're a 15 year old girl

[Anonymous No.2053752]

>>2053751
:(

[Anonymous No.2053756]

Do the lines appear softer than this >>2053635

[Anonymous No.2053758]

>>2053710

Im sorry, I think I might be retarded, I have no idea what I am doing.

[Anonymous No.2053762]

>>2053725
Considering you're utter shit I recommend Fun with a Pencil.

[Anonymous No.2053773]

>>2053762
Whoa buddy, be nice to the beginners. Everyone starts somewhere

But I recommend Fun with a Pencil by Loomis as well.

[foxdit No.2053778]

>>2053758
Actually that's not too terrible if you're new to this. Sounds like you are, and that's fine. From a beginner's standpoint, the main issues are with the character. I'd recommend doing things in black and white for a good while and learn how light interacts with forms. Color is too complex for you at this level, and so you end up with a muddy, foggy looking rendering.

[foxdit No.2053779]

A lil' rendering I just did blocking in tone instead of using any line art.
Anyone else trying to ditch line art for practice? Makes you think about forms more.

[Anonymous No.2053782]

>>2053773
He's been posting earlier in the thread and he's stupid as hell. I feel justified.

[Anonymous No.2053785]

>>2053779
I'd suggest using lines until you've got a better grasp of anatomy.

[foxdit No.2053786]

>>2053785
I was going for style, but yeah, even stylistically I see the problems. Just hard to move shit around on the face when painting flat.

[Anonymous No.2053806]

>>2053751
fuck it i am outa here ..thanks for the help

[Anonymous No.2053807]

follow me on tumblr!!

golden-slugs.tumblr.com

[Anonymous No.2053840]

>>2053243
fuck tard

[foxdit No.2053874]

Got lost in render-land. This was another blockin, no line art.

[Anonymous No.2053878]

>>2053874
You got the proportions and construction wrong, and then proceeded to render. And you got that wrong too.

Notice how in the original picture you can actually tell there's a neck behind her hair. I can't in your drawing; it feels as if she has a really thin neck. Notice also the angle of the clavicle, the pit of the neck and the values around them.
Pay closer attention to your reference.

I like the fact that you do this every day, though. That's a good way to improve. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.2053883]

>>2053807
literally no art, just reblogs of reblogs

[Anonymous No.2053907]

this place dosent look like a beginner thread at all. some of that shit is too advance
>>2053779
>>2053679
>>2053565
>>2053473
>>2053235
yes evan this guy is good. not a beginner atleast. no matter what you people say.
>>2053136
>>2051851

>>2053874

[Anonymous No.2053909]

foxdit, you don't need to samefag.

[Anonymous No.2053910]

>>2053907
Those are defintely very beginner.

If you can't see that I can't imagine how much of a beginner you must be.

[Anonymous No.2053911]

>>2053907
You must be very new.

[Anonymous No.2053996]

>>2053235
Hope this is an improvement, it's hard to make sense of all the muscles.
What did I do wrong and how can I still make this better? (don't pay much attention to hands, feet and face)

[Anonymous No.2054015]

>>2051266
https://www.pinterest.com/explore/skull-reference/

[Anonymous No.2054020]

>>2054015
Woah, nigga. Thanks a lot. Time to do some studying.

[Anonymous No.2054176]

>>2053907

This isn't deviant art, kid.
Everything posted in this thread is beginner level work.

[Anonymous No.2054195]

Posting unfinished study because procrastination

[Anonymous No.2054220]

>>2053907

Everyone starts somewhere, some maybe put some work into their art before they decided to get serious.

Look even Sycra who is heralded like almost a chosen one on here, and is an ok artist is shit in certain areas. You could be an amazing artist and make breathtaking landscapes and then suck donkey balls at figure.

There was a guy on /ic/ last week i think who was pretty good at copying realistic stuff with pencil, but when he tried drawing from imagination, he was kindergarten tier.

People who are here try to improve and some do, the rest can gtfo. And the ones you linked, sure, they show some understanding, but you can get that in a bunch of hours. Its still beginner stuff and requires a shitton of polishing.

[foxdit No.2054231]

>>2053909
If you followed my posts you'd know I don't have the ego to samefag compliment myself.

>>2053907
Thank you for your sentiments but as others have pointed out, it is very flawed beginner tier work. Especially considering how long it takes me to produce. I put a LOT of time into even my practice work so what you're complimenting is dedication, not skill. All the same I appreciate it. I'll leave the beginner thread someday... but not for awhile

[Anonymous No.2054262]

>>2053907
I've always been decent (as in much better than the average person, much worse than a professional) at drawing, I've improved a lot over the years by doodling. But I've never tried to take drawing seriously and learn so I consider myself a beginner.

[Anonymous No.2054383]

>>2054195
decided to do something different than what I usually, might do a second one with my normal smoother coloring

[Anonymous No.2054460]

[Anonymous No.2054671]

working on a ref from the previous thread

[Anonymous No.2054707]

>>2054671
Looks like her skin has been peeled off, but I love it.

[Anonymous No.2054728]

>>2054707
oh really, is it mostly around the nose/brow area? i have a tendency to deviate from the ref and exaggerate some of the shadows and plane changes when my drawing isn't looking good, in an attempt to make it look better.

[Anonymous No.2054738]

>>2054728
It's the eyes, mostly. Animals with their skin removed look like that.

[Anonymous No.2054781]

>>2053442
Someone screencap all of this shit please, this anon made my night

[Jake No.2054820]

>Practicing on art
>realize i cant draw hands
>none the less. Dragon hands
>Also legs look a little Short

[Anonymous No.2055038]

>>2054383
muddy as hell, keep opacity/flow at 100 and try again

[Anonymous No.2055044]

>>2053665

If it's not pestering, I'd like a bit of feedback with this one.

[Lab_Rat No.2055057]

>>2053514

Thanks, even this faggot gets it.

[Anonymous No.2055059]

>>2054820

Draw a bunch of hands,, then draw a bunch of dragon hands (or lizard feet). And dont avoid drawing them in your pictures.

[foxdit No.2055060]

>>2054383
looks great as a thumbnail.
which is to say, if you rendered with finer detail it'd look good full size.

[Anonymous No.2055063]

>>2053665
>>2055044
Your drawing is somewhat muddy. You need to work on line quality; when you get down to the chair, the details are really hard to make out. In fact, I don't even understand if he has a piece of cloth on the chair or not.
Otherwise, it's fine. Maybe from a proportion standpoint it's a bit wonky horizontally, but I can't tell without seeing the model myself.

[Anonymous No.2055068]

>>2055063

Noted. I'll do my best to improve next time.

And yes, there is a bit of horizontal distortion, which is another error I didn't notice. I began to be aware of that when I started drawing the chair and realized that it was a bit more horizontal than it should of been.

Thanks again!

[Anonymous No.2055070]

>>2053725
well heres the completd shit gonna go study fun with pencil i guess.

[nigga you aint even kawaii No.2055086]

[Anonymous No.2055090]

>>2055070
Go study loomis rather. You need understanding of form and construction.

[Anonymous No.2055093]

>>2055090

>he is going to go study loomis
>no man you better go study loomis instead

Huh, whats /ic/ on today?

[Anonymous No.2055094]

>>2055070
>>2055090
Yeah, he better study some Loomis with that Loomis, you never know.

[Anonymous No.2055095]

>>2055094

Can't have enough of that loomis man. I guess the /ic/ needs more loomis meme is kinda true.

[Anonymous No.2055098]

>>2055090

Dude, I love to shit on crappy artwork as much as the next guy, but this is some next level idiocy.

This is like /ic/'s version of "fun is a buzzword".
"I'm gonna study Loomis."
"Go study Loomis instead."

[Anonymous No.2055099]

>>2055070
>>2055070


I know people are being hard on ya but this does look really bad. It looks like youve spent more time on coloring tutorials than investing in a figure drawing class, but those are harder to find on youtube.

[Anonymous No.2055100]

>>2055070
>that psychotic expression
>those blobs of jizz hovering in the distance

Fun with a Pencil won't help you. I don't think anything will.

[Anonymous No.2055105]

>>2055070

Ignore the faggots, probably you can see the mistakes yourself. There are plenty of them, and while that is bad in generall, you can decide what you are going to fix first.

The background, and lanscape, or are you going to work on the figure with fun with pencil.

For whatever part you are going to go for, you will need to start at the basics, shapes composition and perspective. Just tackle these things bit by bit.

[Anonymous No.2055108]

>>2055105
If he can see the mistakes himself, then there's no fucking reason to post it in a beginner thread, you stupid faggot

[Anonymous No.2055110]

>>2055108

Ofc there is, if you can see the mistakes but don't know how to fix them. Some people here give plenty of good advice on what kind of literature you should look at for specific problems.

[nigga you aint even kawaii No.2055113]

>>2055108
you guys are just lurking to shit on people.
Yeh it's not the best. You can see what's wrong and junk.
But at the same time, damn, chill out.
Guide the kid. Don't just jump all over him.

[Anonymous No.2055117]

>>2055108
What are you talking about, it's always helpful to get crits on your work no matter how good or bad it is!

[Anonymous No.2055121]

>>2055099
its actually i havent done any tutorials the only thing i am doing is looms fun with pencil atm just started with a circle doodle.
>>2055100
and ya thanks i think its the eyes that are making the expression like that....blobs of jizz on the other hand ftw i need to go out of the house more

[Anonymous No.2055136]

>>2054383
did a second one with all my usual brush and setting but I got bored and felt it's time to move on.
also fixed some stuff

[Anonymous No.2055138]

>>2055105
oke thanks

[Anonymous No.2055141]

>>2055138
but guys i am using sketchbook pro and dont actually use real paper and pencil ... so is it okey to do looms? i plan to do it on sketchbook pro

[Anonymous No.2055143]

Quick doodle i did, there is no perspective and such, what do you think tho ?

[Anonymous No.2055145]

>>2055143

Feels a bit flat, i dont know from where doc ocs arm is comming, and spider mans left hand seems a bit akward. I like it tough.

[Anonymous No.2055146]

>>2055145
i made the Ock's arm coming from nowhere, but what is weird with Spiderman's hand ?

[Anonymous No.2055147]

>>2055143
there are some slight anatomy error like the pointed bit on his right side head, i don't know if it's the cheek bone or the eyebrow.
But honestly you could probably get away with it because of how stylized and clean it is

[Anonymous No.2055149]

>>2055146

Nah i get it that its comming from nowhere but i cant place it in space, if its from behind or more the front.

Oh and on his left arm im only slightly bothered by the elbow area, but like the anon said, its stylized enough and clean so you could get away with it.

[Anonymous No.2055150]

>>2055147
yeah the pointy head was supposed to be stylized, it's not supposed to be a thing, i would probably draw the head differently if he didn't had his mask.

would have it be better if i made it like if it was his eyebrow ?

[Anonymous No.2055152]

>>2055149
thank you, i know now that i have to work on perspective and volume on drawings

[Anonymous No.2055153]

>>2055150
well that's sorta up to you, or draw both and see which you prefer more.
the only thing that messes with is that I don't really know where his eyes are behind the mask

[Anonymous No.2055172]

hair is fucking hard guise. how do i even do thin hair without just doing spaghetti?

[Anonymous No.2055175]

>>2055172

I think sycra has some pretty decent videos about hair.

From what i know, you dont draw strands you draw the surfaces, highlights, and only strands where the hair actually hits the head.

[Anonymous No.2055228]

>>2055172
You draw the shape, not the hair itself. drawing individual strands more often than not flattens it, and you end up with a wonky drawing.

[Anonymous No.2055413]

>>2055136
much better anon. keep it up

[Anonymous No.2055517]

Hey guys, I tried doing this in B&W but im really still not happy with it, any comments on how to make this better?

[Anonymous No.2055522]

>>2055517
the anatomy of the arm that's resting looks off. i think the upper arm is too short while the forearm is too long and the wrist is too small. other than that maybe use ligher values on the areas in direct contact with the light from the monitors?

[Anonymous No.2055628]

I tried drawfagging today and fucked the head up monstrously bad.
Time to revise Loomis

[Anonymous No.2055652]

Not finished yet but I'm pretty proud of this one so far. I'm pretty new to art (used to draw a lot as a teenager but only really drew crappy dragons and anime) and am working my way through Keys to Drawing which has been a great help.

[Anonymous No.2055661]

>>2055517
I feel like the perspective is off, the table seems to be top down but your body position and the arms of the chair is slightly angled, weirdly though the chair legs seem to be top down

[Anonymous No.2055710]

Trying to construct lips. Am I on the right track ?

[Anonymous No.2055723]

NEW THREAD:

>>2055722

>>2055722

>>2055722