The Real Gesture Thread

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The Real Gesture Thread Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:04:50 2015 No.2044325 [Reply] [Original]

Gestures drawings are essential in any artist's repertoire. They teach an artist to see as an artist would and to infuse life, an essence, into their drawings.

Take pictures of your gestures and post'em here!

Share tips and help others, or just post gestures you love.

Here are some things to note:

Professor Lieu at RISD answers a question about of gesture drawing
https://claralieu.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/ask-the-art-professor-what-is-a-gesture-drawing/

Artist Ellen Soderquist explains the 4 types of gestures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMAHVTobi5g

Chris Warner, Associate Professor at Otis College demonstrate gesture drawing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3QzApLXI4I

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:10:59 2015 No.2044337 >>2044325 >>>2044328

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:26:03 2015 No.2044345 [DELETED]

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Artist James McElhinney at the Students Art League of New York gives a brief summation of his thoughts on gesture drawing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C7-xojfekA

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:30:00 2015 No.2044351 >>2044345 what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:32:58 2015 No.2044356 >>2044351 you don't breakdance when you do a gesture? you gotta loosen up anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:33:13 2015 No.2044357 Are these videos for real?

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:36:30 2015 No.2044361 [DELETED]

>>2044351
The pic was taken at a "Artist Workout" hosted at the Art Students League of New York. This was a gesture drawing session. Students would draw rapidly on the large paper while the model would move through out. It's an extremely interactive approach to gesture drawing.

I can keep posting interesting stuff about gesture drawing if anons would be willing to fill this thread with their *real* gesture drawings

:)

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:36:48 2015 No.2044362 [DELETED]

>>2044345
>art

none of those students learned anything from that except how to get a sore neck and not to work on the same page as another person drawing. lessons best learned in a class environment i suppose.

if he really wanted to test people's memory and ability to draw from imagination he should have them look once, turn around, and draw the entire thing from memory for 20 minutes.

real grade A retardedness

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:38:30 2015 No.2044364 >>2044361 >real gesture drawings There you go again. You're the same guy. Now if the janitor would delete this thread and delete his posts from my thread, thank you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:47:55 2015 No.2044369 Caricaturist and Illustrator Alphonso Dunn explains his 7 L's of gesture Drawing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjB0rj6yAc I guess the jani don't like my sharing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:53:16 2015 No.2044373 File: 202 KB, 1048x1552, missed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aw shucks! Some really good resources were deleted. Oh, well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:53:21 2015 No.2044374 Incoming 300 posts arguing about what is and isn't gesture drawing and mockery of what brave few share.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:54:19 2015 No.2044376 >>2044373 So you're from warosu? That explains your extreme trolling skills.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:55:19 2015 No.2044377 >>2044376 That also explains why you called the janitor 'jani'. That's a /jp/ term if I ever seen one there. Way to ruin the real thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:56:33 2015 No.2044379 >>2044378 You know what I'm talking about. Warosu howl lmaooo and all that retarded shit you guys do everyday 24/7.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:57:22 2015 No.2044381 >>2044379 That is an archive website, like archive for plebs only Warosu archives /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 22:58:24 2015 No.2044382 Post gesture drawings or get out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:02:00 2015 No.2044382,1 >>2044382 fuck you and fuck the op

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:04:12 2015 No.2044390
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Dr. Manny talks about the benefits of gesture drawing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQMsJqqXeo

Pic is one of Degas's gesture drawings. Notice how loose and lively the lines are in capturing the young dancer

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:06:25 2015 No.2044392 >>2044390 I think we can all youtube search "gesture drawing" and it will show the exact same videos in sequential order, mr. troll.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:07:58 2015 No.2044394 Sycra talks about gesture drawing in this go-to guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmiwGm32dXU

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:09:10 2015 No.2044396 >>2044382 Where is yours?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:09:16 2015 No.2044397 Proko's method of gesture drawing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j39NqwL7s4

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:11:18 2015 No.2044401 >>2044390 Gesture drawing as a tool- one minute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j39NqwL7s4

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:12:27 2015 No.2044402 >>2044401 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrGnMar2pAI oops

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:13:09 2015 No.2044403
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Artist James McElhinney at the Students Art League of New York gives a brief summation of his thoughts on gesture drawing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C7-xojfekA

The pic is of Rodins gestural drawings, crayon and watercolor I believe. Note the flow of energy of each medium and how they interact to make the gesture. Neither defines well as separately as they do together. That's a master gesture drawing!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:14:48 2015 No.2044405 Spencer shows his sketchbook full of lively gesture drawings in this interview video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dI5b8Q82Vw

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:17:07 2015 No.2044407 Joeyblondlewolf talks about how to get good gesture drawing in your manga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W_6fVu004s

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:19:14 2015 No.2044409 >>2044407 KerrieJ has some great getures in her sketchbook video--steal her secrets! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRi1cu_m1lM

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:22:16 2015 No.2044411 Another great sketchbook video you'll definitely find useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGV6aNMu4oQ

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:29:51 2015 No.2044417
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Rodin was master at gesture drawing. Even Big John Buscema knew it, inspiring him to draw a splash illustration in How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way. The drawing is for Chapt. 6 "The Name of the Game is- Action!" Clearly Buscema had an exceptional inspiration!

(Rodin's Left; Buscema's Right)

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:32:34 2015 No.2044420 >>2044417 This is so inspiring and helpful information there is just no way this is listed in the sticky I wouldn't have known it if it wasn't for your post!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:38:32 2015 No.2044425 >>2044420 Master draftsman and instructor Glenn Vilppu talks about the importance of gesture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JqxCEafxeI

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:49:57 2015 No.2044433
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Even architects use gesture drawing!

Pic is of Frank Gehry's gestural sketch for the Guggenheim Museum in Spain. Notice how it expresses a flow across the scene. Gesture play vital role in planning things out. They help get an idea of the big picture before the details are needed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:52:43 2015 No.2044435 >>2044433 That's great now post your gestures please people are more than capable of using google.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:53:46 2015 No.2044437 >>2044425 >vilppu drawing on the computer Holy crap tablet>paper.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 00:01:54 2015 No.2044442

Wasn't aware there was a Gesture general.

I make this post in the beginner's thread, but perhaps I may get a better answer here (haven't got an answer on the beginner thread yet).

How useful is Vilppu's Manual if you have all of his videos?

Is it best to read the book and watch the video? Or does the book become pointless with the videos?

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 00:05:28 2015 No.2044444
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Brian Curtis Associate Professor at the University of Miami and author of Drawing from Observation argues that gesture drawing is a discipline of perception:

"ANALYTICAL GESTURE. An important tool for highlighting our awareness of our perceptions and at the same time developing a control over transferring those perceptions to a two dimensional surface is analytical gesture."

Pic is of students work capturing the gesture of a still life,

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 00:45:49 2015 No.2044463 File: 34 KB, 1366x686, Gesture practice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2044325 hi i drew this, and i have no idea if this counts as gesture so if someone can tell me that'll be great

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 00:46:46 2015 No.2044466 >>2044442 Somethings in this life you're just going to have figure out on your own. You could be a book learner or video learner. Who knows?

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 01:07:56 2015 No.2044477
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>>2044463
Try and make those things look curious, interacting with each other or exaggerate folds to show a twist or turn or something that helps show action.

Gesture on the left is from imagination.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 01:20:38 2015 No.2044485 File: 1.01 MB, 1536x2048, 2015-03-31 16.06.57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2044325

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 01:30:31 2015 No.2044493 File: 790 KB, 2000x2000, morestudys.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] iunno.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 01:47:22 2015 No.2044499 File: 1.09 MB, 2000x2000, studysfigure.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 01:48:45 2015 No.2044500 File: 2.55 MB, 5000x5000, studyss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2044499 >>2044493 am i gesture correct yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:06:17 2015 No.2044561 >>2044493 >>2044499 >>2044500 Up, down, turn around Please don't let my drawings hit the ground Tonight I think I'll draw alone Do some gesture drawings on paper when I go home Newsprint Order "Tempatation"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:14:59 2015 No.2044565 >>2044500 These aren't even gestures you mongoloid.

>>	foxdit Mon Apr 6 03:20:30 2015 No.2044567 >>2044325 That Chris Warner vid was awesome. Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:25:05 2015 No.2044568 File: 429 KB, 1280x883, gestures_06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Send help. I want them to have the energy and movement so badly, am i focusing too much on the contour?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:34:08 2015 No.2044571 >>2044561 ok >>2044565 as to why i posted, and as to why i asked if im doing it right yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:44:10 2015 No.2044574 Steve Houston's lectures of 2000; 11 hours of how to gesture/draw/paint. For free, you fucks. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC64188974DFF3A52

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:50:59 2015 No.2044577 File: 191 KB, 1308x1778, IMAG0040_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2044574 And some of my gestures to contribute

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 03:51:44 2015 No.2044578 File: 255 KB, 1410x1816, IMAG0042_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2044577

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 07:17:01 2015 No.2044640 >>2044578 Nice m8, I like the second set

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 07:34:48 2015 No.2044648 >>2044568 You're focusing too much on construction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:13:14 2015 No.2044698 >>2044648 No he isn't his drawings are purely contour Don't give people advice if you don't know what you're talking about

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 09:59:34 2015 No.2044720 >>2044698 > buliding shapes that form solid masses > perspective lines on the heads >"purely contour" lol fucking idiot, maybe it's you that should keep your mouth shut. :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:07:01 2015 No.2044725 >>2044577 >>2044578 Try drawing on a tablet sometime you'll thank me later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:09:41 2015 No.2044726 >>2044707 These are nice and done on a tablet. Keep up the good work.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:21:48 2015 No.2044733 [DELETED]

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>>2044493
>>2044499
>>2044500
Honestly you're wasting your time doing it that way you aren't building up that neurological pattern in your brain. I like the samurai though because he is one nice big blocky shape that is pleasing. Anyone can copy the ref quickly in 2 minutes with enough practice but not everyone can capture the action.

>>2044485
Pretty garbage tbh.
>>2044477
The worst gesture in the thread goes to miku and then >>2044577
>>2044568
All wrong do it over again. Remember you are trying to build up each step. Each step builds upon the next. Go to the tablet and draw with one big blocky brush.
>>2044463
It's bad, draw through the form and try again. Make sure one side is equal to the other. Scott robertson is a good book to look into the see-through perspective form drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 10:29:09 2015 No.2044736 >>2044733 Actually my apologies miku is 2nd worst and 2044577 is worst because miku attempted to see the flow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 11:47:39 2015 No.2044784 >>2044720 this. 'focus less on construction' is valid advice for the 'gestures' in question.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:33:03 2015 No.2044875

Gesture are the easiest thing to do. It takes a long time master, but it's easy to understand. All you're doing is exploring how everything get connected by a flow. You're barely think, just feeling things.

What the fuck is so difficult to understand about that?

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Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:40:00 2015 No.2044882

>>2044875
It's something psychological you have to give a sense of the figure's pelvis pushing out and tilting or the ribcage coming out it's the abstract part that is difficult.

Some people can convey the action easily on canvas while some have to work more than others on trying to experience the model.

Anonymous Mon Apr 6 14:56:02 2015 No.2044900

>>2044875
If you don't think about what you are doing, you will never get good. A gesture is the most important basis of the figure. If you just do things without thinking and analyzing the figure, it's just a pointless scribble.

Identify the problems a figure presents and accurately solve them from the very first line you draw. That is what people like Vilppu mean when they say "feel" the figure. They mean identify the pinch and stretch, the tilt of the shoulders and hips, the volume and perspective of the body, the weightbearing leg etc. Once you have internalized that stuff, you can do "feely" quick 30 second gestures, not before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 20:01:35 2015 No.2045184 >>2044900 Gesture can be done blind. If you over think it you stay a cancerous weeb for life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:14:54 2015 No.2045330 >>2045184 And if you under-think you end up short of anything worthwhile, like your comment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:16:31 2015 No.2045334 >>2044878 quite like that one

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:16:43 2015 No.2045335 >>2045330 just do it on paper already and quit shitposting

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:24:04 2015 No.2045344 >>2044425 >his voice please don't die based vilppu :'(

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:26:58 2015 No.2045349 File: 85 KB, 246x246, 1400476909599.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2045344 I thought the same thing. My heart broke when I heard how soft and feeble it was. He's about to feel an eternal gesture soon, you know that right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:48:17 2015 No.2045368 >>2044444 So, learning to draw proper proportions of people will help me figure out proportions for objects around my house?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:54:15 2015 No.2045371 >>2045349 don't mourn for him, he will become one with the feel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 22:59:28 2015 No.2045381 >>2045371 I'm going to cry I already know that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 23:09:31 2015 No.2045392 >>2045368 Proportions are relative. What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 23:11:42 2015 No.2045393 >>2045392 >Don't think. Feel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 6 23:19:36 2015 No.2045404 >>2045393 You forgot the paper

I am that person Tue Apr 7 06:50:50 2015 No.2045754

>>2045335
Hurr- durr I can shitpost but you can't

>>2045368
If you can associate body sizes to everyday objects, which is why I'd advocate the cranial unit of measure for my figures. The cranium is close enough to 6 inchesn(half-foot) to make it a handy use of measure for US people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 08:14:27 2015 No.2045803 >>2045349 Well, that particular video is almost two years old. His voice is much stronger in his newer videos.

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 13:12:29 2015 No.2046061

>>2045330
What does thinking about your lines have to do with being a weeb you moron? You realize that the only reason you follow Nikolaides approach of scribble gestures is because they are easy and present zero challenge, right? You are afraid of failure, but because everything looks like shit and is just a midless scribble, no one can tell you that you failed.

Learn from actual artists like Vilppu, Hampton, Huston, Watts etc. Speed comes from accuracy. You can't have a good gesture without analyzing the figure first. Also, take your own advice, use some paper and post your gestures. You seem to be the only one ITT who doesn't draw at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 13:13:37 2015 No.2046062 >>2046061 meant for >>2045184

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:16:21 2015 No.2046515 >>2046061 You don't even use paper. WTF do you know about gesture drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:20:30 2015 No.2046518 >>2046515 Why didn't you get banned instead of me? I was actually helpful and you're still just shitting the thread up with your paper meme.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:31:22 2015 No.2046525 >>2046518 You derailed a thread with a personal vendetta. I gave valuable information and promoted real gesture drawing. You Troll Me Gesture

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:36:12 2015 No.2046529 [DELETED]

>>2046525
No you posted the very first search results on youtube just so that your thread didn't get deleted to make it appear to be a helpful thread.

Meanwhile you continue to shitpost "paper" every other post that isn't a youtube link and you still have yet to post any gesture drawings. You also clearly don't know what you're talking about just reading this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:39:44 2015 No.2046533 >>2046529 and btw >>2044411 >>2044409 >>2044407 >>2044405 >>2044402 >>2044397 >>2044394 are all my links so not really bud

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 19:40:55 2015 No.2046535 >>2044425 and this too

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:23:51 2015 No.2046698 [DELETED]

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>>2046529
I only asked to see real gestures. It was you that went all buttblasted and started acting like a weeb. And now you're shitting in this thread over a grudge.

And your links were cliché. We are all familiar with them already. Mine were from credible sources and offered insight most probably never knew about, like the 4 types of gesture. My were even commented as helpful and showing something interesting. Yours endorsed a status quo.

Your behavior is tiresome just post some real gesture and stop trying to make this your personal piss hole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:35:14 2015 No.2046711 >>2044325 hey my roommate had clara lieu! They had some cool-ass projects

Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:56:45 2015 No.2046744 [DELETED]

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>>2046698
>I only asked to see real gestures.
What do you mean by 'real' gestures? I get it you refuse anything that is done on the computer. But that is your personal bias and a dumb one. Plus you had the nerve to come into my thread and say the gestures in the OP weren't real gestures and not as beautiful as your OP pic.
>It was you that went all buttblasted and started acting like a weeb.
What is your grudge against weebs? Do you even know what that means?
> And now you're shitting in this thread over a grudge.
I don't have a grudge I'm calling you out on your shit.
>And your links were cliché.
Most of them were on purpose because YOU intentionally posted youtube links of gesture drawing that appears in the 1st results on youtube SEO. So saying "we are all familar with them already" is 2-way retardation if you did the same thing. I'm only returning the favor.
> Mine were from credible sources and offered insight most probably never knew about, like the 4 types of gesture.
again the first results on youtube is...
>My were even commented as helpful and showing something interesting.
Those are my comments sarcastically complementing you.
>Yours endorsed a status quo.
This makes no sense. And you completely ignore vilppu drawing on the computer--I guess that isn't REAL gesture either, huh? But no you're gonna keep being dumb on purpose.
>Your behavior is tiresome just post some real gesture and stop trying to make this your personal piss hole.
That pic you posted still isn't your own gesture drawing (reverse search). Until you join the G+ session I'm not going to post if you won't post either because ultimately I'm dealing with a stupid troll who--

doesn't draw and makes sakimichan threads every single day

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 7 23:14:30 2015 No.2046759 >>2046744 Wow you're are soooooo butthurt! Do some paper gestures you'll thank me later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 12:46:33 2015 No.2047360 File: 45 KB, 542x720, gestures 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did I good /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 16:58:42 2015 No.2047588 >>2047360 No, these are not gesture No rhythm No flow Stiff Rigid Formulaic These weren't really felt through. I can tell you were wanting to hurry up and just fill a page.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 20:05:14 2015 No.2047758 >>2047588 please provide an example of a good gesture or link to one in this thread that is decent not even mad, jus curious

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:08:01 2015 No.2047797 >>2047588 Fuck you. They do look rushed and messy but some of these are decent. Some of the drawings managed to convey tensions and movement in the body.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:11:34 2015 No.2047802 File: 52 KB, 1920x1080, Crixuslaughs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047588 Oh no shitposters grand return. Gestures are not always finished renders, though a extra push on the next set will help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:16:38 2015 No.2047807 File: 161 KB, 540x1042, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047588 >I can tell you were wanting to hurry up and just fill a page Thats the point you floating faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:35:18 2015 No.2047824 >>2047807 In that case you are doing it wrong and it's a waste of time :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:47:51 2015 No.2047836 When you draw the ellipses around the gesture, what does the ellipse represent?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:52:48 2015 No.2047838 File: 96 KB, 700x464, ellipses_glass2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047836 It's quickly establishing depth

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:54:19 2015 No.2047840 >>2047838 No, you fucking moron. It's to suggest the perspective.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:55:48 2015 No.2047842 >>2047588 He should hurry up and fill a page to knock out as much shitty gestures to get to the good ones, you stupid shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:58:18 2015 No.2047845 >>2047840 >depth and perspective have nothing to do with each other :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:59:33 2015 No.2047846 >>2047838 >>2047840 wouldn't that mean the same thing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 21:59:41 2015 No.2047847 File: 156 KB, 1024x708, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047840 Are you okay?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 22:02:17 2015 No.2047851 File: 36 KB, 343x364, 1427129339265.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2047840 Sometimes /ic/ can be so cute in a stupid way

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 22:08:56 2015 No.2047853
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>>2047836
>When you draw the ellipses around the gesture,
Are you refering to cross-contours?

>what does the ellipse represent?
Cross-contours are just the artist feeling out the roundness of something.

Pic related from Proko. Notice the cross-contours at the brow, the chest, hips, and thighs

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 22:45:40 2015 No.2047884 >>2047853 >>2047838 Thanks for the info!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:15:52 2015 No.2050125 Finished watching Vilppu's video on gesture drawing Chapter 1. When I gesture draw with his method, how much time should I take? 2 minutes? 30 seconds? Or should I just not time myself and worry about finding the "flow"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:20:37 2015 No.2050134 >>2050125 It all depends. Try everything, do a lot of 30 second ones, do a lot of 2 minute ones and do a lot in between. It's whatever you find is more comfortable and lets you internalize how to capture the energy and anticipation of a pose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:28:22 2015 No.2050143 >>2050134 Alright, will do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 14:46:08 2015 No.2050667 File: 78 KB, 2112x2000, Unti765087076tled-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is all I can draw for the moment, how do I into cross contours?

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:06:15 2015 No.2050694
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>>2050667
By doing it on paper first. Your's sucks cox and dix, they has no rhythm and no depth.

Pic is of Ruben's Dancing Peasants. Black chalk on paper. Notice the rhythm of lines and shapes. Those elements are dancing as much as the subjects are. You could say their rhythm makes the subjects appear as if dancing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:12:28 2015 No.2050701 Anyone other than paperfag got any tips?

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>>2050667
While it's important to get the rhythm. It's also important to show the action concisely.

Reduce the number of lines and see how much of the action you can show. Noodle people don't equate to action.

Here's a Cross Contour image.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 18:32:38 2015 No.2050856
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>>2050798
Only the shin has cross-contours and they're vague and sloppy. They don't do much either. Plus the rhythm of the whole figure is skewed by the forced perspective.

Hogarth's anatomy diagrams while not gesture show how cross contours can give a sense of roundness to the subject and when placed well they can add to the rhythm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 02:08:21 2015 No.2051273 File: 373 KB, 1400x1050, gestures.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Too damn tired.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 15:11:16 2015 No.2051888 >>2051273 These don't look super different from mine but they're so much better. What am I missing...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 15:23:42 2015 No.2051902 >>2051888 Those don't look any better to me. One or 2 of them look okay and the rest break apart the would be consistent flow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 15:30:33 2015 No.2051906 >>2051902 There still much better than mine. I like the top left, bottom left, the one to the right of the one on the ball, and the bowing one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:13:11 2015 No.2051995 >>2044574 Damn, Steve is one sexy motherfucker, no homo

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:16:15 2015 No.2051997 >>2051902 What's flow?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:21:40 2015 No.2051999 >>2051997 another word for rhythm

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:28:35 2015 No.2052008 >>2051999 Can you elaborate a bit? Can you show an example in anon's gestures? They all appear to nice simple lines.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:33:19 2015 No.2052010 >>2052008 *to have

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:36:42 2015 No.2052014
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>>2052008
Not him, and I suspect he's just being a bit of an autist, but these are not good. They're segmented, unclear and overall shitty. The rest is mostly okay, though some run in different directions, but are still passable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 19:26:07 2015 No.2052108 In Vilppu's manual, it's suggested to draw lines or even jump from one line to another, never connecting. But why does his work look so busy? Lines every where in the examples.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 19:48:57 2015 No.2052121 >>2044403 I study with a teacher @ the Art Students League who says the exact opposite of what James McElhiney. In fact, I think I plan of showing them this video when I go back to class.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 20:44:22 2015 No.2052150 >>2052014 Yeah they are shitty, considering I did them at 3AM with little sleep. I'm just shitty overall but I decided to make the effort anyways. Thanks for the critique though.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:17:47 2015 No.2053167
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>>2052150
Does anyone have any tips for drawing the gesture of the leg? I try to limit it to one line but it doesn't read, and when trying to show form I feel as though I'm just drawing the contour.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:34:35 2015 No.2053178
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>>2053167
yeah, you have to think about the transfer of force. it's interesting in the leg, especially one taking weight, as it kind of spirals down the leg.

so um here's a shitty ms-paint diagram, the black line is like the primary transfer of force, the red is like the secondary, and the green the tertiary, you can see they kind of wind around and end up delineated the muscles in the leg.

i put a triangle on the kneecap just for a landmark.

and obviously the leg on our left is taking the weight and the other one...isn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:50:56 2015 No.2053191 >>2053178 Do those lines coincide with anatomy? I mean, do I have to study the anatomy of the leg to use them effectively? Jesus, a lot of different paths are involved in gesture drawing. It's so confusing.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 15:10:29 2015 No.2053205

>>2053191
they do coincide with anatomy more or less, because i was (trying to) map the forces acting in the leg and the muscles do the acting.

you need to know anatomy 'by sight and by feel' eventually, but i don't think it's super important to rush into that, lots of people get carried away naming all the bits and pieces, which again, is useful but if you can say 'those bumps there rotate the forearm' i think it's more important than know that they're called the brachaordadialis or w/e it is.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 15:20:20 2015 No.2053214

>>2053205
Ah, okay thanks. I noticed that one of the lines looked like the sartorius (or whatever it's called, I've only delved into anatomy in passing), and wondered if it was by coincidence or design. I also noticed that gesture drawing does make more sense when using the anatomy to, well, build the gestural forms, but when you're doing 30 second, 1 minute, 2 minute gestures it all turns into a frenzy. Very hard to control.

Thank you for the help though. Much appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 17:12:09 2015 No.2054513 your cover has been blown paper faggot http://nosoart.deviantart.com/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 17:15:31 2015 No.2054517 >>2054513 Good thing I'm the real tabletfag and you're paperfag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 17:29:45 2015 No.2054542 File: 130 KB, 344x472, tumblr_lxwkmmlVt91r0yamfo1_400.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Paperfag on damage control now

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 18:40:31 2015 No.2054644 >>2053214 Don't fret, as it can be confusing but just follow the chapters of whatever study you're under going. I felt the same way when I read Vilppu's manual, but towards the end you learn the in-depths of anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 10:46:55 2015 No.2055293 I found an interesting way to draw the figure quickly. I wouldn't call it 'gesture' but I don't care. Right now I'm testing the technique out and if it works for 500 different poses I'll adopt this way of drawing poses. It's working great so far.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:15:59 2015 No.2055320 >>2055293 >expecting anyone to give a shit without you posting the actual method cool story bro

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:18:16 2015 No.2055322 File: 74 KB, 800x600, notsharin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2055320

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:45:29 2015 No.2055340 >>2055322 cute. you think you found le secret method. in reality you're probably mangling an existing method.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 11:58:36 2015 No.2055351 [DELETED]

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>>2055340

I've been experimenting with gesture for 2.5 years now and when I've found THE method I'm telling you I've finally found it.

See you in the light, friend. If you make it here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:00:44 2015 No.2055354 >>2055351 k

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:16:28 2015 No.2055362 >>2055354 don't cry

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:22:17 2015 No.2055367 >>2055293 what's the point of this post? you don't show the result, you don't tell your process.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:39:32 2015 No.2055377 >>2055367 No post is a meaningless post!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 12:49:40 2015 No.2055382 File: 167 KB, 305x331, stop feeling that.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2055293 >it works for 500 poses Pro tip: Regular gesture works for literally every pose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:22:59 2015 No.2055404 >>2055382 Not really. And I said I didn't call my method 'gesture', if you could read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 13:52:24 2015 No.2055422 File: 27 KB, 640x424, skinhead vilppu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2055404 >Not really Yes it does. Now share your 'one trick that Vilppu and other teachers hate, click now for a free guide', or fuck off.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:26:30 2015 No.2055457 [DELETED]

>>2055422
No it really doesn't. Maybe if you tried drawing poses that aren't nude fat ladies bathing in lamp light you'd figure it out.

>Now share your 'one trick that Vilppu and other teachers hate, click now for a free guide', or fuck off.
I never said I wasn't going to share nor did I say I was. Some things just need to be kept secret by certain artists, ya know?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:29:30 2015 No.2055461 >>2055457 I already know it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:30:16 2015 No.2055462 >>2055461 But you don't know it my way ;-)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:31:54 2015 No.2055465 >>2055404 >gesture doesn't work for every pose it's almost like you don't understand what a gesture drawing even is...

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:35:42 2015 No.2055469 [DELETED]

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>>2055457
>No it really doesn't

Yes it does. If it somehow doesn't to you, than you're simply misunderstanding the concept of gesture.

Youre like one of those kids on /x/ that's all like
>'hey guyz i totally know the secret to life and how to summon vampires and telekineses, but I won't tell you how, lloloplol.'

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:35:58 2015 No.2055470 File: 5 KB, 168x125, fan2039952.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2055465 Yeah yeah whatever you say.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:39:44 2015 No.2055472 >>2055462 I do. I just did it.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:44:37 2015 No.2055475 [DELETED]

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>>2055469
>If it somehow doesn't to you, than you're simply misunderstanding the concept of gesture.

Sure thing paperfag. I've seen your gestures, we all have. I don't need someone below my skill level to tell me I'm misunderstanding it.

I'll say it again for your low IQ to comprehend: I don't label the method gesture. Therefore my method doesn't belong in this subhuman thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:47:45 2015 No.2055480 >>2055475 since you understand it perfectly well, explain how gesture drawings won't work for every pose. which poses won't work, and why?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 14:54:40 2015 No.2055484 [DELETED]

>>2055480

Okay

>>2053167
>>2051273
>>2050667
>>2047853
>>2047360
>>2044878
>>2044707
>>2044577
>>2044578
>>2044499
>>2044500
>>2044493
>>2044485
>>2044477
see anything similar (and conflicting) among all of these? Use your head here while I type out a really long post.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:03:51 2015 No.2055492 [DELETED]

>>2055484
what I notice is that many of those aren't actual gesture drawings, they focus on construction rather than gesture or are full-blown sketches. others are gestures by inexperienced artists, and of that long list only a few posts are examples of decent gestures.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:06:46 2015 No.2055497 >>2055492 Correct, the answer is they all suck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:10:02 2015 No.2055504 >>2055497 many of them aren't even actual gestures though, and most of the ones that are gestures were made by inexperienced artists. so do you have an actual point?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:15:23 2015 No.2055510 >>2055504 Hmm I do but now that I think about it that would technically be helping you guys. You know, getting you to >think<, something 80% of /ic/ can't do. So I'll refrain from posting it. closes the word file

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:18:29 2015 No.2055512
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>>2055510
>claims to have super secret drawing skillz
>claims gesture drawing doesn't work
>no evidence for either claim
why are you even posting? go learn what a gesture drawing is. It's clear you set out to prove gestures don't always work then realized you were in over your head, so you're backtracking as fast as you can.

I get some comfort from the fact that no one here takes you seriously.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:18:45 2015 No.2055513 >>2055510 >implying anyone worthwhile cares about how you draw generic anime grillz

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:20:40 2015 No.2055516 [DELETED]

>>2055512
And I get comfort that I have no obligation to share my super sekrit method.

>It's clear you set out to prove gestures don't always work then realized you were in over your head, so you're backtracking as fast as you can.
nothing you will say will make me spill the beans

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:21:34 2015 No.2055518 File: 10 KB, 236x314, gestured.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2055516 I don't want your "secret skillz". I want you to explain how gesture drawing doesn't work. Still waiting...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:27:39 2015 No.2055521 >>2055510 Oh god, my sides. Could you even be more pretentious? I'm literally staying on the thread to see how much pompous douchebag you could act. Please do us a favor. Kill yourself. Or please go away. we wouldn't want our inferiority to rub on you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:32:11 2015 No.2055525 >>2055521 No, wait. I find this guy's legit autism endearing. What will he say next?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:41:17 2015 No.2055532 File: 153 KB, 940x1024, Receta-de-sopa-de-leche-para-niños.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2055518 It doesn't work for you and it shows in your drawings, paper boy. Keep drawin' them impractical spaghetti-o's!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:43:07 2015 No.2055536 >>2055521 Hey I didn't start it...he is the one choking my neck, desperate to find out my method.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:43:25 2015 No.2055537 [DELETED]

>>2055532
you've never even seen my drawings, and I haven't seen yours.

so tell me, since you claim to understand gesture drawing so well, in what instances does it not work?

inb4 endless replies skirting the question and insulting the board to avoid admitting you know fuck-all about drawing.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:44:29 2015 No.2055539 [DELETED]

>>2055536
no one cares about your method, we all know you're delusional. what I want to know is how gesture drawing doesn't work, which you claim.

and I'm still waiting for you to answer that one. instead you just keep spouting the "muh secret method!" red herring.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:51:50 2015 No.2055549 [DELETED]

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>>2055539
I never claimed shit mate. Scroll up...>>2055293
my first post and then your autistic ass posted >>2055382
>regular gesture works for every pose
to which I said
"not really"
and
"I didn't call my method gesture"

so now that we know it's about
>not every pose
and not
>doesn't work completely
like you're trying to shift the blame on me, I believe 1 method of gesture and only one is impractical. It would be naive to think you can draw any pose of any type with just one method >of gesture drawing<.

But of course you can't think, for all you do is draw nude chicks bathing in lamp light.

Now that we're on the same page...listen closely:

I said my method is NOT gesture.

N-O-T (did you catch that) gesture! I don't give my drawing methods predetermined labels. Does my method work for every pose? Yes. Is it gesture? No. Is it a quick way to get a pose on paper? Yes.

But is it gesture? I don't call it gesture because I can. Do you have any more stupid questions?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:52:27 2015 No.2055551
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>all this shit flinging over fucking gesture drawings

It's literally just conveying the action in a short period of time without being too focused on the anatomical details. What is there to debate?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:56:15 2015 No.2055560 File: 1.89 MB, 310x175, How ic acts.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2055551 It's just another day on /ic/

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 15:57:57 2015 No.2055563 [DELETED]

>>2055549
>your autistic ass posted...
you realize there's more than 2 people on this site right? it's not just me and you here.

so, back on topic, you claimed:
>gesture method doesn't work for every pose

which is what I'm asking you to prove. and I reiterate, I DON'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT YOUR "METHOD." so stop bringing it up.

>Do you have any more stupid questions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:21:59 2015 No.2055582 >>2055563 >which is what I'm asking you to prove. and I reiterate Do I really need to? Can you not think why I said that? I'm not spoonfeeding you the answers when it's point black in your face.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 16:25:17 2015 No.2055585 [DELETED]

>>2055582
more excuses, as expected.

in case you don't even know what gesture drawing is:
>>2055551
>It's literally just conveying the action in a short period of time without being too focused on the anatomical details.

There is no reason this method can't be applied to any pose imaginable. Burden of proof is on you, still waiting for an explanation.

Garthok Wed Apr 15 16:25:57 2015 No.2055586 [DELETED]

>>2055563
I'd say the subtler and less dynamic the pose you want, the less useful gesture is.

For example, in animation if you're inbetweening a conversation, there can potentially be 32 ultra subtle transitions in the space of a second, depending on how crazy you wanna get with it... it just turns into a nudging shapes game for a lot of those drawings, and attempting a gesture for each would just cloud the nature of the movement you're trying to convey at that point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:47:05 2015 No.2055962 File: 538 KB, 2592x3955, gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2053167 Too lazy to scan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:12:33 2015 No.2055972 File: 54 KB, 788x976, lelgesture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:34:55 2015 No.2055998 File: 131 KB, 901x1025, lelgesture1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:52:21 2015 No.2056012 File: 83 KB, 674x990, lelgesture3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:04:45 2015 No.2056019 File: 30 KB, 432x640, life_drawing_baran_mong_dot_com (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:30:23 2015 No.2056034 >>2056033 >>2056012 >>2056006 really bad. put some thought into your strokes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:41:04 2015 No.2056041 File: 80 KB, 600x978, lelgesture5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2056034 nah

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:42:23 2015 No.2056043 >>2056041 Kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:53:29 2015 No.2056055 File: 664 KB, 1944x2916, lelgesture6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:52:19 2015 No.2056120 These gestures threads are fucking awful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 07:03:44 2015 No.2056203 >>2056120 That's because a troll made this thread and now you see the result. It wouldn't have been this way if the janitor let my thread stay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 08:51:36 2015 No.2056268 >>2056203 >>2056120 >jelly

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:03:00 2015 No.2056274 >>2056268 You gonna show up in hangouts today or what? I'm going to make it right now and I'll be in it all day so you get NO EXCUSES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:27:41 2015 No.2056290 stop babysitting

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 10:17:08 2015 No.2056322 >>2056023 Sweet Jesus

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 10:47:25 2015 No.2056336 gj mod cleaning up that guy's shitty contour drawings

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:09:39 2015 No.2056412 I really REALLY think this thread is fucking stupid. Not gesture is stupid, but the fact that people in this thread just don't get it because their IQ is below 120.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:11:37 2015 No.2056414 And get off my back, mod. You keep deleting my hangout link post as "off-topic" when--if you used your brain--I'll be drawing gestures in the hangout. So it isn't off topic.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:23:39 2015 No.2056420 >>2056419 It's crap and you miss the point completely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:31:54 2015 No.2056428 Don't bother posting your other ones, it looks like you literally used the mirror tool to get perfect sides. I must ask, for what purpose?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:38:29 2015 No.2056433 File: 229 KB, 1944x2916, lelgesture7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] idowhateveriwant

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:39:22 2015 No.2056434

>>2056412

It's "my opinions are facts" shitflinging on a topic that's very subjective and requires a "just do what works and makes sense to you" approach.

This is why gesture threads, composition threads, and stylization threads never work on /ic/, there's too much subjectivity

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:41:47 2015 No.2056438 >>2056433 Nice mirror faggot

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:44:27 2015 No.2056442

>>2056433
When it's time to draw an idea for your client at the coffee shop and you wip out that sketchbook you'll wish you practiced gesture on paper instead of relying on your mirror crutch.

Oh right, you won't make it that far to draw for your client at a coffee shop. Carry on.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:46:11 2015 No.2056517
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>>2056442

Clients? I draw for myself. Sketchbook? I don't need one. Practice on paper? I do just fine with my wacom, thank you. Mirror crutch? I prefer to see it as a tool. Carry on? I think I will.

Also I don't drink coffee btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:50:13 2015 No.2056521 >>2056517 Well, good luck you special snowflake, I hope you are getting a STEM diploma then, god knows we got enough homeless in this world :^)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:55:12 2015 No.2056526 >>2056517 Shit man that's not how the muscles of the legs work. The fact that you think that looks good and doing all the work for you is hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:55:56 2015 No.2056528 >>2056517 ok you're retarded, gl at obtaining any artistic skill whatsoever I really hope you're just reposting these from deviantart with shitposts attached

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:58:09 2015 No.2056531 File: 89 KB, 1080x799, lelgesture9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2056521 roger that

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:59:30 2015 No.2056533 >>2056531 Now try drawing that monkey head at a different angle that isn't portrait view.

>>	Garthok Thu Apr 16 15:04:05 2015 No.2056542 >>2044425 Hey this Vilppu guy is really great! Why haven't any of you /ic/ guys ever said anything about him ever in the history of this board? Seriously mentioning him at least once before now could have cleared up a lot of problems for learners. hyuk

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:08:01 2015 No.2056545 >>2056542 Good to know the only post (my post) is the most useful post in the thread. YOU HEAR THAT MOD????

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:12:18 2015 No.2056548
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>>2056528
>not how the muscles of the legs work.
Those or pistons you dolt, it's a side view of a spaceship, duh.

>>2056528
>reposting these from deviantart
I don't have a Deviantart. These are all 100% original posts. Try to collect them all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:15:29 2015 No.2056554 File: 43 KB, 1080x799, lelgesture11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2056533 backview

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:21:22 2015 No.2056561 File: 25 KB, 464x352, 97260bd40c0d735e2fc336c18e8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2056554 Har har get good

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:29:39 2015 No.2056568 File: 36 KB, 1080x799, lelgesture13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2056561 will do, comrade

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:34:27 2015 No.2056576 File: 925 KB, 2000x9837, 1min-gestures-in-one-week.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] one week of gestures digital (with tablet) is hard as fuck compared to traditional

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 06:35:27 2015 No.2057130 File: 105 KB, 930x1150, Walking gesture ref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to study walking/running/turning - moving gestures. How do you guys study this? Do you have good resources on moving gestures?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 03:23:11 2015 No.2060215 File: 875 KB, 599x853, 01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Posting some of my own.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:00:41 2015 No.2060634 >>2060226 Really like your ink gestures, work on your line quality for the graphite ones though, pretty scratchy and not as appealing

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:09:53 2015 No.2060644 File: 3.46 MB, 2432x4320, IMG_20150420_150353380.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2060634 Some of mine

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:12:45 2015 No.2060646 File: 3.34 MB, 2432x4320, IMG_20150420_150418174.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2060644

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:14:23 2015 No.2060648 File: 3.23 MB, 2432x4320, IMG_20150420_150216533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2060646

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:16:43 2015 No.2060651 File: 3.10 MB, 2432x4320, IMG_20150420_150317602.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2060648

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:18:29 2015 No.2060653 File: 3.68 MB, 2432x4320, IMG_20150420_150325730.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2060651

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 16:52:28 2015 No.2060711 >>2057154 >>2057130 >>2056990 >>2056970 >>2056614 Start all over, draw it on paper. >>2060215 >>2060644 pretty cool

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 17:56:27 2015 No.2060770

>>2060648
>>2060651
>>2060653

These have a light feel to them like the start of a movement.

>>2060644
>>2060646

For the more fixed stances I recommend studying more how the weight pulls on different parts of the body.

Try imagining a line going from the head and down with a weight on the end and you will see how it ends up in different places depending on the stance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 18:49:46 2015 No.2064110 File: 1.40 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150422_233917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time doing gestures. And it shows. Already got some crits but would certainly appreciate more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 18:50:29 2015 No.2064112 File: 1.33 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150422_233946.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2064110

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 18:51:13 2015 No.2064114 File: 1007 KB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150422_233801-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2064112

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 18:52:25 2015 No.2064117 Please stop bumping this thread. Nobody cares.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 18:54:05 2015 No.2064121 >>2064117 Gestures don't qualify as proper drawings. And I'm not making a fucking dedicated thread for my stupid gestures. Where else am I to post.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 20:14:53 2015 No.2064194

>>2057130
>>2057154
I also have the desire to know how to do this. However, I think I should refer to the beginning of Figure Drawing for all it's Worth, where Loomis explains how weight is distributed throughout the body depending on the pose. He also shows some pretty inspiring lines of action on mannequins, too. I don't have the book on hand but I was reading it earlier, you may want to check it out anon.

And good gesture, very fluid!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 00:28:47 2015 No.2064515 >>2064117 you are a fool and you should feel like one

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 00:47:35 2015 No.2064530 >>2064121 >>2064515 hahaha he deleted it wadda chump

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 06:40:25 2015 No.2064782 File: 238 KB, 1440x900, 1 minute 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These are my "gestures" from the beginning of the month. I got refereed to Vilppu, and have been studying his process this month

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 06:42:11 2015 No.2064785
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>>2064782
And these are my gestures from yesterday morning. I've started getting up at 6:00am every morning to do these, and plan on doing it for as long as possible.

I see improvement from where I started, but I've still got a long way to go. I'm still really hit or miss with my gestures.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 06:59:03 2015 No.2064793
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>>2064782
I would say work on line quality, draw out where the forms meet, the shoulders/chest area needs some refining in my opininon, the placement of the shoulders in relation to everything else will really influence the building of the pose.

>>2060644
I'm guessing these are large scale? I would work on the line quality of your darkest charcoal or just stay away from the dark value range completely.

Also this is mine

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 08:25:21 2015 No.2064834

Am I not allowed to give my opinion in this thread in fear of hurting others feelings?
>>2064785
How is it that the beginning of the month is better than your yesterdays? You were 'searching' for the pose in the first batch and the 2nd not really.
>>2064793
You avoid hands like no tomorrow and also, in my opinion, these aren't gestures.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 09:11:24 2015 No.2064863 >>2064834 Can a gesture be more than a minute? I think this was 2

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