Gesture Thread

[Anonymous No.2041531]

"Loose" edition.

[Anonymous No.2041581]

GET LOOSE

[Anonymous No.2041620]

>>2040732
Still stiff?

[Anonymous No.2041628]

>>2041620
I'm not that guy (the other one) but:

Don't just scribble without thinking of the scribble. Think of the body like a contained river. Now I know what I just said sounds like I'm high but you'll understand with practice.

As a tip to take away never copy your reference, it's pointless. The old man says it too "never copy the model". We anal-lyze what the model is doing then we go for the action.

[Anonymous No.2041632]

What does "stiff" even mean?

I see people "fix" other people's "stiff" figures by drawing something that looks like a frame taken out of bad japanese animation. People criticize drawings as stiff that I just can't see anything wrong with.

What does it even mean?

[Anonymous No.2041635]

>>2041620

Dude, you're thinking about it in the compeltely wrong way. You're not thinking about the flow and pose at all, you're just scribbling in the figure.

Try this as an exercise. Spend a minute to draw the action line of a pose. That's right, I want you to spend a minute to draw one line. I want you to really think about the pose and the direction it's going in. Do that for several minutes.

Then I want you to do the same thing but instead of just an action line, I just want to see no more than six lines. I'm not talking about scribbles and calling that shit one line, I mean one continuous line with a start and an end. The less lines you can use the better but just try to get the idea down more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.2041640]

>that sperglord talking about meditative states and unstoppable machines killing your gesture in the other thread

[Anonymous No.2041641]

>>2041632
Good question. Generally you want to push the pose enough without breaking it because when you refine the drawing further it begins to stiffen up. If the gesture looks like >>2041620 when it's time to add construction the final will look exactly like the gesture vs a gesture that has more push and leaves room for adjustments.

The pose does not need to always be 'pushy dynamic', it can be stationary. But even the stationary pose needs the gesture to be loose enough to avoid a stacked lego effect.

[Anonymous No.2041642]

>>2041628
>Don't just scribble without thinking of the scribble. Think of the body like a contained river. Now I know what I just said sounds like I'm high but you'll understand with practice.
Yeah, yeah, Vilppu, I know. I prefer that method.
>As a tip to take away never copy your reference, it's pointless. The old man says it too "never copy the model". We anal-lyze what the model is doing then we go for the action.

>listen to this
>its too stiff
>listen to the anon from the other thread
>don't scribble
Again, everything contradicting everything else.

[Anonymous No.2041645]

>>2041642

If you can't get over the fact that most fundamentals in art don't have clear and well defined rules and guidelines other than "make sure it works as you intended it to" then you need to stick to architecture or industrial design or something. Or something with a lot of mathematics in it.

Maybe creating art isn't for you.

[Anonymous No.2041649]

>>2041645
>most fundamentals in art don't have clear and well defined rules and guidelines
But they do, you moron.

[Anonymous No.2041650]

>>2041635
I'm only doing scribbles because I was told to near the end of the last thread. How are these to you?
>>2037342
>>2037474
>>2037497
>>2037721

>>2041645
>If you can't get over the fact that most fundamentals in art don't have clear and well defined rules
Then why is everyone trying to teach me like there are?

[Anonymous No.2041653]

>>2041650
I would watch out for the advice he is giving you he and >>2041645 is the same dude who can't draw on a tablet because he sees tablets as inventions from another dimension.

[Anonymous No.2041657]

>>2041642
>Again, everything contradicting everything else.

What is contradicting to not copy the photo? You draw you aren't a photographer.

[Anonymous No.2041659]

>>2041650
>Then why is everyone trying to teach me like there are?

They're telling you shit that works and makes sense for them in hopes that something will click inside you.

>>2041649
Perspective does and that's about it. Even with anatomy there's a lot of room for variation simply because there's a lot of variation within humans. Rest is just vague guidelines like "push your values" and "rule of thirds" that leave a lot open.

[Anonymous No.2041660]

>>2041649
Perspective is basically the only one

Everything else can be exaggerated and played with to suit certain situations

[Anonymous No.2041662]

>>2041653
My apologizes but you know who you are.

[Anonymous No.2041663]

>>2041653
I'm waiting on this >>2040732 anon's opinion before I go back to Vilppu's method. I don't think he's the same anon.
>>2041657
I'm not copying the model, I'm trying different methods when I'm told too and when the things I'm told to do start contradicting each other it gets confusing.

[Anonymous No.2041680]

>>2041650
I went to art school for 4 years, and /ic/ was the first time I heard about gesture, but here's what helped me:
Go the Vilppu way, but stick to his simpler gestures, the ones that show no volume at all. He has very different approaches every time he explains it. Use just one line per body part, make them all curved appropriate for major muscle groups or bones, use either depending on what feels right on case-to-case basis. legs and arms consist of two lines each, first ends a bit after the joint, second begins a bit before the joint. Make sure to really exaggerate the curve of the line for the neck, and proceed as Vilppu says, sequentially from the head to the legs, then do arms. all lines are curved and continue the rhythm, remember the river he talks about.
Use the joints and and the 9 torso/6 back landmarks to map out the figure in sequential, curved, flowing lines.

When you're used to that, find his pen drawing videos, and learn and expand from those.
Good luck.

>>2041659
>perspective
>proportion
>composition
>light/shading/color
>anatomy
>construction
>no clear rules and guidelines
It's like you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.2041686]

>>2041680
>implying color has clear and well-defined rules
>implying proportion and anatomy can't be played with
>implying composition is objectively figured out

[Anonymous No.2041687]

>>2041680
As you can see this anon offers you more 'contradicting' advice. This should tell you to take what you understand and what you don't understand to make it work for you.

[Anonymous No.2041689]

>>2041680
Only construction and perspective apply; everything else can be skewed/"stylized" if you have a good grasp at them.

[Anonymous No.2041690]

>>2041686
>clear rules and guidelines
>clear rules
>clear guidelines
You can "play" with everything, perspective included. There are still concrete ways things work in reality that are reflected in art.

[Anonymous No.2041692]

>>2041680
>I went to art school for 4 years, and /ic/ was the first time I heard about gesture, but here's what helped me:
>Go the Vilppu way, but stick to his simpler gestures, the ones that show no volume at all. He has very different approaches every time he explains it. Use just one line per body part, make them all curved appropriate for major muscle groups or bones, use either depending on what feels right on case-to-case basis. legs and arms consist of two lines each, first ends a bit after the joint, second begins a bit before the joint. Make sure to really exaggerate the curve of the line for the neck, and proceed as Vilppu says, sequentially from the head to the legs, then do arms. all lines are curved and continue the rhythm, remember the river he talks about.
That's sort of what I've been doing, isn't? I prefer doing it like that.
>9 torso/6 back landmarks
What is this?
>When you're used to that, find his pen drawing videos
Do you happen to know what the titles are? I have a lot of his stuff already.
>>2041687
>As you can see this anon offers you more 'contradicting' advice.
No, he makes sense unlike just saying I'm too stiff.

[Anonymous No.2041732]

>>2041692
All I've seen is this thread, so I don't know what you did. What you want to star with is basically pic related, but with less information. One line for head, one short, exaggerated curve for the neck, one line for the spine, one curved line for the outside of one side of the hip or the butt, depending on the pose, one line showing the tension of the quadriceps and the front curve of the knee, one line following the underside of the knee, showing the tension of the calf, and continuing into a simple line for the foot, and two lines per arm, similar to legs. I make the curves follow the triceps and curve along the outer curve of the bone of the forearm, so if you were tensing your biceps, the two lines would curve out from each other.
Curve everything, and always draw the lines flowing from one curve into the next. One curves outwards, next curves inwards, if possible.

Note that this won't work for static poses or if the figure is facing directly towards, or from you, for the most part. I use horizontal curves to describe the form for those.

Everything else is described in Vilppu's drawing manual, and there are a couple of the pen videos on the new masters youtube channel.

Read the book completely, and focus on what you're reading before starting with gesture. You need a basic-to-decent understanding of anatomy and proportions first, imo.

Once you get used to your associating simple lines with muscles of the limbs, it's not that hard to further describe them (the 3 lines "containing" Vilppu often talks about).

If you're a beginner and you're having a hard time understanding gesture after all that, don't sweat it. Learning to draw is not a linear process. Go work on anatomy, then come back to trying gesture. Still struggling? Do croquis. Still struggling? Draw precise diagrams of the human figure in simple forms in space, from different angles.

Once you internalize the process of considering anatomy and proportion, gesture shouldn't be an issue.

[Anonymous No.2041740]

>>2041732
continued

Your issue with gesture is most likely the symptom, not the disease. Study the human figure.

Also, English is not my native language, I hope I managed to communicate my thoughts properly

Also, gesture isn't really that crucial. None of us knew it was a thing, and we still all managed to draw moving animals at the zoo. Don't think you can't draw before mastering it.
Learning to draw is a long process, don't wait till you're 60 and finally have respectable skills to actually draw.

[Anonymous No.2041743]

>>2041732
I linked some to you already, dude. Click the links.
>>2037342
>>2037474
>>2037497
>>2037721
>Note that this won't work for static poses
Yeah, I figured that out.
>and there are a couple of the pen videos on the new masters youtube channel.
By Vilppu? I didn't know that.

[Anonymous No.2041753]

>>2041732
>If you're a beginner and you're having a hard time understanding gesture after all that, don't sweat it. Learning to draw is not a linear process.
I know, I'm just stubborn. What do you think about all that stiff/loose stuff from this >>2030690 thread near the bottom? I wasn't lost until it started.
>>2041740
>Your issue with gesture is most likely the symptom, not the disease.
What is the symptom and is the disease in this analogy?
>Also, English is not my native language, I hope I managed to communicate my thoughts properly
Your English is fine.

[Anonymous No.2041774]

>>2041732
>>2041740
>>2041680
Post your gestures at least. Too much text

[Anonymous No.2041776]

>>2041692
>No, he makes sense unlike just saying I'm too stiff.
You aren't going to get this in a week or a month. Try at least 6 months of constant drawing.
>>2041732
One thing I learned on /ic/ is that too much text means the person is an idiot.

[Anonymous No.2041780]

>>2041743
Those are close, but you're describing the form. "Containing" it, as Vilppu says. Think simpler.

One line, joint to joint.
If you can tell where the quadriceps and calf are, you don't need another line for the hamstrings. There is no torso, just one line. If you can't describe a twist with that, add a line for muscles that are contracted, etc.

>>2041753
Like I said, your understanding of anatomy, proportion and "perspective" (really just drawing a 3d form in space) might be holding you back. We all think we know what the human body looks like, but you really need to study it to really understand.

Rest a little, then try what I described. If that doesn't help, move on to different aspects of drawing, study anatomy, draw croquis or any type of sketch in a park, draw studies in real size with charcoal. Sooner or later, it will click.

Don't force it, this isn't an obstacle you must overcome in order to tackle the next.
The worst thing to do now is burn yourself out on a quick sketch exercise.

The thread just seems to have devolved into buzzwords and arguing over tablets, I don't know.
As for "looseness", I started as described precisely because I had no idea what these people wanted from me, and needed something technical to build from. Vilppu is as loose as I'm willing to get, and he's pretty methodical, really.

>>2041774
>implying I'm not an insecure beta

>>2041776
Maybe I am, it has nothing to do with drawing.

[Anonymous No.2041789]

When it comes to gesture drawing, my biggest problem is proportion.

So for now, I'm currently just taking in the advice Proko gave in how to draw 2 minute gesture, but I'm going with no timer and measure via Loomis method with the heads.

Not sure how long this will take, but hopefully after doing this 100 times I'll get a strong understand on proportions

[Anonymous No.2041794]

>>2041628
>>2041635
Thanks man, that really helped me reevaluate what I was doing.

[Anonymous No.2041796]

>>2041780
>"Containing" it, as Vilppu says. Think simpler
He isn't containing form he is using wrapping lines to suggest perspective incorrectly.
>If you can tell where the quadriceps and calf are, you don't need another line for the hamstrings.
You don't need to think about that when feeling it.
>There is no torso, just one line. If you can't describe a twist with that, add a line for muscles that are contracted, etc.
unnecessary

[Anonymous No.2041802]

>>2041780
Okay, thanks for the help. I'm not the anon who was asking you to post your gestures, but I would like to see them.

[Anonymous No.2041812]

>>2041796
>He isn't containing form he is using wrapping lines to suggest perspective incorrectly.
I was talking about using lines on each side of the form, like pseudo-contours. Similar to Vilppu's "brackets"

>You don't need to think about that when feeling it.
I was explaining why the above is unnecessary.

>unnecessary
Vilppu does it. And I said IF he is unable to do without.

>>2041802
You'd be disappointed. Like I said, this is just what helped me in my own struggle with gesture.
If it helps, awesome, but I'm just another guy on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.2041815]

>>2041812
>just another guy
just another guy...ka
>You'd be disappointed.
hence why you've written out the great wall of china

[Anonymous No.2041817]

>>2041812
>You'd be disappointed.
Just show me and ignore all the replies you get.

[Anonymous No.2041820]

>>2041815
fuck off to /a/

[Anonymous No.2041822]

>>2041820
You mean /jp/. Also, ignore him. Unlike other boards I come here to learn, not to fight.

[Anonymous No.2041824]

>>2041820

I haven't been on /a/ in years except 1 thread I check every now and then for 1 show. How bout you get good instead of giving advice you can implement?

[Anonymous No.2041829]

>>2041732
Thanks for the advice! I would like to see your gestures too.

[Anonymous No.2041839]

>>2041820
Oh look, I'm /lit/ now :)

[Anonymous No.2041928]

>>2041620
So long as it is digital, for you, it will always be too stiff. Your tablet is too small and it's not adequate enough for you to become intimate and mediative enough to learn the big lesson-- kinesthesia.

Do it on paper.

And yes I am the one you been talking to.

[Anonymous No.2041933]

>>2041928
Are those less stiff than my other ones or not?

[Anonymous No.2041934]

>>2041632
Stiff means the line express a sense of inhibition, there was worry, concern, or you were self conscious about the effect of the drawing. You didn't let go. You didn't focus on feeling the gesture. You became hesitant and worried about how the drawing would look. You missed the flow of energy and now it looks stiff because of that.

[Anonymous No.2041936]

>>2041640
Never seen digital gesture be more expressive than a real on. There is a reason.

[Anonymous No.2041939]

>>2041936
proof?

[Anonymous No.2041941]

>>2041936
You're full of shit. Just post your gestures already.

[Anonymous No.2041944]

>>2041933
You need a comparison to see where your going wrong. I can't see the direction the lines were laid down originally and it looks as if you're using your wrist more than necessary.

Seriously do it on paper. The last thread, a guy posted several dozen. They were quick, easy, and perfect.

Do it on paper. It will be your benchmark. You need to do it on paper.

[Anonymous No.2041949]

>>2041944
So those were good, huh. They don't look much different from mine.

[Anonymous No.2041950]

>>2041928
I've seen Vilppu draw pretty tiny gesture, I'm honestly not convinced

[Anonymous No.2041954]

>>2041950
He's probably going to tell you he was able to do them small because he drew big and on paper first.

[Anonymous No.2041956]

>>2041954
Fokkin idiot he is.

[Anonymous No.2041967]

>>2041949
No, they were not good. Here is an example from Rodin he was a master at gesture drawing. The pic is small but you can still feel how it flows, you can sense the kinesthesia of the man charging.

Do it on paper.

[Anonymous No.2041970]

>>2041967
Didn't you just say they were perfect?

[Anonymous No.2041971]

Freud know how to use a gesture drawing to search out and explore the forms of a subject. You can almost feel what he was sensing just by looking at it.

[Anonymous No.2041984]

>>2041967
Giacometti

[Anonymous No.2041985]

>>2041971
>>2041967

post your gestures faggot

[Anonymous No.2041987]

>>2041971
So how is this better than what you can do on the computer?

[Anonymous No.2041990]

Sargent

[Anonymous No.2041992]

greg albert?

[Anonymous No.2041994]

>>2041992
faggot gestures your post

[Anonymous No.2042000]

??

[Anonymous No.2042003]

[Dr. Gold No.2042013]

>>2041994
He's shitposter.

[Anonymous No.2042014]

[Anonymous No.2042019]

>>2042014
That dick is upside-down.

[Anonymous No.2042024]

Can't do this on a tablet

[Anonymous No.2042025]

[Anonymous No.2042028]

[Anonymous No.2042029]

[Anonymous No.2042030]

>>2042024
Why would you do that at all?

[Anonymous No.2042032]

Do it on paper and it will make sense

[Anonymous No.2042035]

I draw on paper too, but I can't get any feedback if I don't use my tablet.

[Anonymous No.2042037]

scan or take a picture
without the real deal all will be lost

[Anonymous No.2042040]

>>2042037
I get it, paper-kun. You've said more than a whore begs for cock. And I don't have a scanner or anything.

[Anonymous No.2042042]

I feel like what this has taught me most is that I really need to work on perspective

So.. favorite perspective books?

[Anonymous No.2042043]

>>2042037
Jesus Christ can you shut the fuck up? Others shouldn't have to suffer because you're having trouble adjusting to the digital age, like some caveman with down syndrome

To have an opinion is fine but it makes you look really stupid, parroting it like that

[Anonymous No.2042044]

>>2042030
Look at how smug and satisfied that super expressive human fucking Spirograph is. That's why. For the jazz hand clap after the showing in the you-probably-haven't-heard-of-it gallery downtown.

[Anonymous No.2042049]

>>2042040
a smartphone
a friend with a smartphone
a library
a post office
a parcel store

where there's a will there's a way
the paper calls to you my child

[Anonymous No.2042050]

>>2042049
Please get a trip so people can filter you

[Anonymous No.2042064]

What is it about gesture drawing threads that always attract shitposters? Or is it the same, very dedicated shitposter every time?

[Anonymous No.2042065]

>>2042064

Because its something that varies so much between artists. Its easier to get into a shitstorm over silly noodle people than it is over something a bit more concrete like perspective or anatomy.

[Anonymous No.2042066]

>>2042065
>Its easier to get into a shitstorm over silly noodle people than it is over something a bit more concrete like perspective or anatomy.

This. If this was a composition thread you'd have a bunch of trolls claiming that composition is a bunch of snake oil bullshit or that the "rules" people said before are bullshit. It has happened before and will continue to happen.

Though in my opinion there are less outright trolls and more people exaggerating and playing out their shitty opinions on a subject. Like those paper guys don't think tablets are some demon sorcery that needs to be exorcised from the planet, but they still look down upon digital art and consider it to be a lesser form of art.

[Anonymous No.2042069]

>>2042042
use a smaller brush

[Anonymous No.2042072]

This was done from imagination. Did it in about 3 minutes.

The paper is magical.
Believe in the paper
Trust the paper
Give yourself to the paper
Only then will the secrets reveal themselves

[Anonymous No.2042074]

>>2042072
Whoops! forgot pic

[Anonymous No.2042076]

>>2042074
4/10, almost took the bait

[Anonymous No.2042077]

your loss then

the paper can teach you many glorious things

[Anonymous No.2042081]

>>2042077
can it teach you to fuck off?

[Anonymous No.2042085]

>>2042077

Why not do both trad and digital? There I just trumped your trolling.

[Anonymous No.2042087]

Only when the prophecy is fulfilled will the curse be lifted.
The paper beckons you my child
Go now, before it's too late!

[Anonymous No.2042089]

>>2042087
My cock beckons you my troll
Suck now, before It looses hardness!

[Anonymous No.2042093]

>>2042089

Funny how those drawings are quick throw aways without that are only vaguely anatomically correct at best yet they have way more life and character than the best of /ic/.

[Anonymous No.2042097]

>>2042093
>le /ic/ is shit may may

[Anonymous No.2042099]

>>2042093
Gesture is best when it's for cartooning and not life model. You get more out of it.

[Anonymous No.2042100]

>>2042099
2nd the life model serves only as a model. I say again to not copy the model for the 100th time.

[Anonymous No.2042104]

>>2042097

>implying /ic/ isn't full of beginners
>implying the handful of pros that came from here changes that fact

[Anonymous No.2042106]

get some yoh in this bitch

[Anonymous No.2042107]

>>2042104
>better than the best of /ic/
>I-I mean if we ignore anyone who's not a beginner, o-obviously
>I-I'm ot retarded, really!

[Anonymous No.2042108]

>>2042104
>implying you weren't referring to the handful of pros that came from here

>>2042093
>way better than the BEST of /ic/

I've never understood the mentality of people who rag on /ic/. Its not perfect but its a decent enough place.

[Anonymous No.2042109]

>>2042106
Where can I see more of this person's stuff
>>2042089
This was helpful

[Anonymous No.2042110]

>>2042109

Google Deadwood Designs or Yoh Yoshinari

[Anonymous No.2042114]

>>2042085
1. Those aren't yours. And he was doing real gesture drawing long before he picked up a stylus. So he knew what he was doing.

2. You don't because you never actually done it for real for yourself. So you really just proved me more right.

3. I never said it can't be done digitally, I just said you wouldn't be able to do it until after you did well on paper first. You never had that "a-ha" moment so you don't know how adjust the machine to your needs.


Someone take these machines away,
That point you to another day,
A dual of personalities,
That stretch all true realities,

The paper keeps calling you,
It keeps calling you,
Keeps on calling you,
It keeps calling you,

Caaaaaaallling you-oo-oo

[Anonymous No.2042115]

>>2042108

It's a mixed bag of people who see it as a holy grail of critique and as just being a /b/-esque dumping ground but with drawings.

Though really it's just an alright place with a shit ton of loud, opinionated idiots and a lot of shitposting and drama.

[Anonymous No.2042118]

>>2042114
You remind me of this dude on youtube comments I see all the time you HAVE to be him. You know who you are. If I'm right give me a bone.

of course those aren't mine

>You don't because you never actually done it for real for yourself

don't be so sure you are talking to your senpai

[Anonymous No.2042119]

>>2042110
Thank you. A new favorite for sure.

[Anonymous No.2042120]

>>2042089
Why can't you draw like that on your computer?
Oh that's right, you can't even do it on paper!
How could you possibly do it on a tablet then?

Silly little d/ic/k, gesture drawings are for real artists

[Anonymous No.2042121]

>>2042118
>whatever you can do I can do better

Caaaaaaallling you-oo-oo!

[Anonymous No.2042123]

>>2042120
Real artists, not scrubs like you. Shine my shoes, bitch.

[Anonymous No.2042124]

>>2042119
Yeah he is 1 of my favorite inspirations.

[Anonymous No.2042127]

>>2042123

Real artists are too busy drawing to troll around on /ic/ threads

>but what are you doing here

I never said I was a real artist, did I?

[Anonymous No.2042137]

>>2042123
Happy Birthday,
Now go get your newsprint and charcoal

[Anonymous No.2042138]

>>2042127
It's Friday night mr. troll I got hobbies other than drawing. Time for relaxing and talking down scrubs like you.

Don't forget to wax the back of the shoe.

[Anonymous No.2042142]

>>2042138
>I got hobbies other than drawing.
No, you have an addiction my child
Go to the paper
it will cleanse you
it will make you whole again

[Anonymous No.2042151]

>>2042142
Make you whole again with your mother and sister? You don't say. I have seen the light thank you friend.

[Anonymous No.2042167]

That he which hath no paper to draw with,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call’d Newsprint Day.
He that draws this day, and draws in real life,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
And rouse him at the name of Newsprint.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil drawings his neighbours,
And say “To-morrow is Newsprint Day.”
Then will he open his pad and show his gestures,
And say “These gesture I made on Newsprint Day.”
Millennials forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Newsprint Day!

[Anonymous No.2042537]

Let's draw some gestures.

[Anonymous No.2042561]

>>2042537
Those arent gestures

[Anonymous No.2042568]

>>2042561

Is it fucking opposite day today? Those are most definitely gestures you pleb.

[Anonymous No.2042578]

>>2041620
you call this gesturing? too many unnecessary lines.

[Anonymous No.2042582]

>>2042578
Look at my other stuff, I only did those like that because some anon was telling me I was being too "stiff".
>>2037474
>>2037497
>>2037721

[Anonymous No.2042586]

>>2042582
try on paper. Your curves look so unconfident.

[Anonymous No.2042588]

>>2042586
loosening up doesn't necessarily mean using more lines. Definitely not filling out the figure with thick scribbles that don't even follow the gesture or movement.

[Anonymous No.2042590]

>>2042588
meant to quote >>2042582

[Anonymous No.2042594]

>>2042588
Well he told me to try for 5 minutes straight Like with this one. >>2040883 I'm just gonna go back to how I was doing it.

[Anonymous No.2042598]

>>2042561
Yes they are. There are 2 main schools of thought when doing gesture drawings. The Nikolaides school of thought which has no practical application but is rather an exercise to train yourself in capturing movement, regardless how scribbly and ugly it gets and the more practical approach to gesture drawing as taught by most fine art ateliers, Hampton, Vilppu, Huston etc.

If you follow the latter, then the difference between a gesture, a quick sketch, a construction drawing and a fully fleshed out figure drawing is just a matter of how much time you spend on it because each step builds upon the next one. The gesture isn't done just for the sake of doing a gesture, but as a basis to build upon all the way up to a fully rendered figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.2042605]

how are my gestures
part 1

[Anonymous No.2042606]

>>2042605

[Anonymous No.2042609]

>>2042568
shit, I was looking at them on my phone. They looked like contours on my shit phone screen

[Anonymous No.2042882]

>>2042537
Stiff and too formulaic.

>>2042605
>>2042606
Stiff and not even a legit try

Both have no genuine energy. Both are not even exploring or searching. They're flat, rigid, and formulaic.

>>2042594
I told you that to zone out. I was hoping by doing some massing you would get into feeling the form But apparently your more interested in faking your gestures than anything else. Its like you want to be hack just to be done with it. You still haven't done it on paper, have you?

[Anonymous No.2042885]

>>2042882
I told you the first time you mentioned it that I do both.

[Anonymous No.2042894]

>>2042885
And I told you that you're not ready for digital because you haven't even done it successfully on paper yet. Do it on paper. I guarantee your problems will reveal themselves on paper. Stop being such a baby. Do it on paper.

[Anonymous No.2042988]

Wut do mean by formulaic? Care to show yours so i know wut a nonformulaic gesture looks like?

[Anonymous No.2042997]

>>2042988
Do it on paper.

[Anonymous No.2043005]

>>2042537
These are okay but try challenging yourself. Do gestures of different body types next.

[Anonymous No.2043008]

I think your confused. The simple ones with cuving lines is on paper. Post yours.

[Anonymous No.2043017]

>>2043008
It's garbage, do it on a tablet.

[Anonymous No.2043023]

Alright just end your life already. It seems you're all talk.

[Anonymous No.2043026]

>>2043023
I'm parroting that guy I'm not him. I just proved to him right now that it doesn't matter if you do it on paper or tablet.

[Anonymous No.2043028]

>>2043026
to clarify my posts
>>2043017
>>2042997
are mine and his are
>>2042894
>>2042882

[Anonymous No.2043036]

>>2041531
Where can I find good martial arts references? Like poses of strikes and shit

[Anonymous No.2043121]

>>2043026
You've only been proving me right so. And the more you deny the more painful it will be to admit you've been wrong this entire time.

The paper calls

[Anonymous No.2043171]

>>2043121
Why haven't you posted your awesome gestures yet?

[Anonymous No.2043186]

>>2043171
He did.
>>2040732

[Anonymous No.2043193]

>>2043186
That isn't his for if it was this blog would belong to him:
https://holmesinccomic.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/gesture-drawings/

[Anonymous No.2043194]

>>2043193
Good lord this guy needs loomis in his life.

[Anonymous No.2043196]

>>2043194
wwwwwwwww

[Anonymous No.2043198]

>>2043196
You know what it actually MIGHT be her since all her gallery work is on paper. From reading her blog I can tell she is a clinical autist.

[Anonymous No.2043201]

>>2043198
Phew! Thank god she censored these perfectly drawn, succulent breasts!

[Anonymous No.2043202]

This is what paperanon calls GOOD GESTURE. When the artist can draw her way out of a paper bag. And you want to be taking advice from him?

Paper anon has been talking out his ass, check fukin' mate, m8.

[Anonymous No.2043203]

>>2043202

>can
can't
I keep making my can'ts cans. Sigh how hazukashii

[Anonymous No.2043205]

>>2043203
http://raedrawsalot(dot)blogspot(d0t)com/p/gallery.html

here is the rest of her crap and if it is paper anon's stuff her twitter
https://twitter.com/vonkrum

looks like a fatty sjw cunt who can't get a bf

[Anonymous No.2043208]

>>2043205
>4m ago tweet
Now it really HAS to be paper anon. Too much of a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.2043211]

>>2043036
Download martial arts movie and take screen shots.

[Anonymous No.2043235]

>>2043205
That's not me LOL!

You've been stalking some woman because your so butthurt you can't even gesture drawing. And to top it off her shit is still miles ahead of your stiff shit!!!

This is fucking hilarious! Im busting at the seams here. Just cause you refuse to do it on paper you decide to take your buttfrustration on some complete stranger, and a clinical depressed on at that.

Oh! I almost forgot,

The paper keeps caaaaaaaalling you-oo-oo!

[Anonymous No.2043239]

>>2043171
Mine is >>2042074

The paper will free you my child. Break those chains of the tablet. Go to the paper.

[Anonymous No.2043245]

>>2043235
You don't even know who I am, take your meds.

[Anonymous No.2043247]

>>2043239
So all I see is that you used the side of your pencil for thick and think strokes. Being the grandpa you are the tablet can do exactly the same thing.

[Anonymous No.2043251]

>>2043245
I don't need to. You made a fool of yourself already. This is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. Thank you! Some tablet addict becomes a stalker cause he can't doodle a decent gesture on paper. Lel!

I gave multiple examples, one of my own even, and you went out of your way to post some stranger's twitter and blog. And the punchline? Her shit is still better than your stiff tablet shit.BWAHAHAHA!

Tis Newsprint Day my brother! Let us do some gesture drawings.

[Anonymous No.2043258]

>>2043251
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I DONT DRAW ON PAPER YOU FUCKING MORON YOU.

Yeah I'm mad. Never have I wanted to strangle another anon in such a long time. You're fucking annoying. It literally doesn't make a difference if is on the tablet or computer.

[Anonymous No.2043260]

>>2043247
Oh! I can do marvelous gesture drawings on a tablet. (Look at the recent cancer threads.) And that's because I learned on paper first. You, on the other hand, can't because you never proved yourself on paper.

Just do it on paper already. You'll thank me, I promise.

[Anonymous No.2043263]

>>2043260
Die bitch.

[Anonymous No.2043268]

>>2043258
Because you suck.

If you had any real milege on paper your stiff shit wouldnt be so terrible. You're so addicted to the machine you can't see how crippling it has made you. Do you actually believe that digital fake can capture all the nuances and qualities of the real deal? You're just fooling yourself!

Why do you fear the paper so much my child?

[Anonymous No.2043270]

>>2043268
You're the one who is fooling yourself with your kuger disease. Boy you don't even start I'd murder you in gesture drawing you don't even know.

[Anonymous No.2043272]

>>2043268
How is that ape thing even lively in the first place? It's just holding a gun and looking to its right.

[Anonymous No.2043273]

If you knew how to do gesture drawing your ape human dude wouldn't be so stiff.

[Anonymous No.2043277]

>>2043272
The fact that you can interpret it clearly demonstrates it has a life. The composition is simple, sure. And it's no where near the level of masterful examples I gave earlier. But it shows I know what a gesture is at the least

Go to the paper! Quickly now!

[Anonymous No.2043278]

>>2043273
Now you're just being spiteful. There's nothing to be afraid of. The paper will calm that butthurt.

[Anonymous No.2043280]

>>2043277

I can interpret it because you pretty much finished the drawing which shows me your level of draftsmanship (which is shit) while bypassing it as a "gesuture" to the uninformed. That took you at least a good 5 minutes which no longer is a gesture but a quick sketch.

Basically you're an idiot and you blow the whole gesture thing out of proportion telling people to go to the paper for something that shouldn't take more than 30 sec to a minute to do. Meanwhile you pass off your 5 minute monkey doodle as a gesture. Give me a break son I'm losing points on my IQ.

[Anonymous No.2043288]

>>2043280
sumimasen maybe 5 minutes was too generous, how about 10?

now be a good boy and post some pixel lovely gestures on that timer dole like everybody else has been doing, boi. Das rite you can't.

[Anonymous No.2043291]

I'm willing to settle this man to man on google hangouts. We draw gestures side by side and let /ic/ watch to see who the better man is. It's late though so how bout tomorrow?

of course not who am I kidding?

[Anonymous No.2043293]

>>2043280
I did it in less than 3, remember? And I am more than positive that my mediocre skills are leagues better than yours. I know more about gestures than you can possibly imagine. How? Because I've been doing them on paper for long time, sonny. And my digital shit isn't as terrible as your best digital shit. That's because I learned to appreciate the paper.

The fact that you think a gesture is so cut and dry demonstrates to everyone here your problem. You're addicted to the machine because you're afraid of what the paper might expose about you. You know the paper will show all your faults for you to see. That's why you hide.

Bless you my child, for on this day we give thanks to newsprint. Go to paper, my child, heed its lessons.

[Anonymous No.2043296]

>>2043293
All talk, son. Meet me back in this thread tomorrow...it's showtime. Rdy to roundhouse kick your ass.

Pixellovely
30 seconds
digital medium
hangouts
on sunday

be there or be square loser

[Anonymous No.2043297]

>>2043291
You're willing and able to setup a google hangout, but you can't seem to upload one paper gesture on an anonymous imageboard?

You know all you have to do is post one honest gesture on paper and this will all turn around in your favor.

The paper is caaaaaalling you-oo-oo!

[Anonymous No.2043300]

>>2043296
Are you going to post your paper gestures tomorrow? That would be awesome! You would learn so much!

The paper can't wait to teach you such wonderful things about yourself.

[Anonymous No.2043302]

>>2043297

You scared? I could say the same thing for you; why haven't you posted them pixel lovely gestures yet like the guys you were critiquing did? Instead you post a 5 minute doodle (I know you said 3 but hotshots like you like to reduce the time).

Be there faggot or you are just all talk with no substance.

>>2043300
No but I'm gonna be on hangouts and you are too. Humiliation on live video is what I want out of you.

[Anonymous No.2043306]

>>2043302
Is the post where all you do for now on is call somebody else chicken, on an anonymous board?

Do you hear a phone ringing? Pick it up. It's for you. It's paper.

[Anonymous No.2043309]

>>2043306
Do you hear that ping dining? Go live. It's for you. It's hangouts.

[Anonymous No.2043488]

>>2043309
Dude, just a tip for the future. Stop taking retarded trolls seriously. Do gestures, post them ITT, ignore the shitposter. You and I both know he will never post his work and even if he did, he's probably way too delusional to admit he is shit at what he does.

A lot of traditional purists on /ic/ are unbelievably deluded. Just look at Illastrat. You could make him paint some shit on google hangouts and everyone would be laughing their ass off at how terrible he is, but he'd consider it a masterpiece. You can't win against these people, ignore them and work on your art.

[Anonymous No.2043628]

>ka
>hazukashii
>sumimasen
>all this autistic shitposting
What the actual fuck is happening here?
Did the weebs forget to take their adderall and got into a fight with each other?

[Anonymous No.2043634]

>>2043193
What the fuck. I just found the work of a local figure drawing guy to scope out the drawing club around here. His stuff on their site looked pretty cool, but then I found his work on this fucking site.

You're spooky, anon.

[Anonymous No.2043657]

Opposite of loose, but I did this earlier.
I used straight lines because he has a stiff as fuck posture. Kinda turned into a find-the-angles study rather than a gesture drawing though.

[Anonymous No.2043667]

>>2043657
The angle of his face is wrong and the back of the head is slightly in level with the top hat.

[Anonymous No.2043671]

The paper is caaaaaalling you-oo-oo!

[Anonymous No.2043675]

>>2043671
I'm right here bitch, whenever you're ready.

[Anonymous No.2043677]

>>2043667
I see the face angle now that you mention it. I didn't copy the head exactly as it was looking a lot busier compared to the body though, just went with the general shape.

I also see I fucked up the arms now. Ill take another go at it later.

[Anonymous No.2043680]

>>2043675
You got paper?

[Anonymous No.2043684]

>>2043677
yeah
>>2043680
I got paper but I don't have a fucking tripod to record my hand drawing on paper. Use the tablet, you said you were god like on tablet because you trained sooo hard on paper. Shouldn't be an issue.

[Anonymous No.2043694]

>>2043684
Not doing it on paper huh? That's too bad. You could have learned something, like flow and rhythm for example (which you lack in that one) Can't feel the lean. And your sighting needs work too.

It's flat and stiff, the hooks don't do anything to help either. Go to paper, my child.

[Anonymous No.2043697]

>>2043694
Excuses for not wanting to show up as I expected.

>and your sighting needs work too

clearly you're blind, stupid, and a noob.

[Anonymous No.2043710]

>>2043694
>It's flat and stiff
Have forty of my keks the pose in the picture taken is stiff. How can the person who drew this recreate it without making his doodle stiff?

[Anonymous No.2043721]

It doesn't have to be your own, but please post a gesture you think is good next to a gesture you think is bad please.

[Anonymous No.2043725]

>>2043721
Sure, but let me say before I post comparison that it's just someones gestures of an attainable level of commitment of 2 years and not some blown out Disney animators one. Because you know that won't help anyone but make the beginner feel leagues away of anything attainable.

We could post a gesture done by Jeff Watts and you'd think you have to be a Jeff Watts to get anywhere which is far from true.

[Anonymous No.2043727]

>>2043725
As a beginner I wholeheartedly agree, please post them.

[Anonymous No.2043750]

>>2043727

You know I never thought of it like that before. I REALLY don't like other intermediate artists gestures and prefer my own. I only like top animators gestures because I want to be like them.

I'm going through DA and pretty much everyone's suck in my eyes and very few of the intermediate guys I would recommend looking at.

Search terms: vilppu gesture
everyones SUCK but 1 guy (pic related)
search term: gesture drawing
the top popular of all time isn't my tastes but I do like turtle-art's and bochikin's gestures so you can look at them too as intermediate artist reference.

>bad gestures

type in vilppu gesture drawing "newest" into DA and everything you see there is bad EXCEPT for the one I posted in pic and the drapery study (I like that drapery gesture) titled July 1 drapery.

[Anonymous No.2043755]

>>2043710
Stiff is about quality not position. A competent artist could gesture a cube if they wanted to.

[Anonymous No.2043756]

>>2043750

Now would I like the pic related method of gesture drawing? Nope, it's hampton style and formulaic.

[Anonymous No.2043757]

>>2043756

Of course the purpose of hampton's gestures is to just get through the program to learn the anatomy stuff but still.

[Anonymous No.2043759]

>>2043756
If you want to get good at drawing from imagination, you need a formulaic approach. Doing fancy gestures is a complete waste of time if you don't know how to build a real figure drawing from that basis.

also, why don't you post your own gestures? This isn't exactly a "hurr post your werk" kind of thing, the very purpose of this thread is to exercise and post your own gesture drawings.

[Anonymous No.2043762]

>>2043759

Not unless paperqueer joins me in hangouts. I wanted to blow him out of the stratosphere.

[Anonymous No.2043766]

>>2043762
>If you want to get good at drawing from imagination, you need a formulaic approach. Doing fancy gestures is a complete waste of time if you don't know how to build a real figure drawing from that basis.
see
>>2043757

[Anonymous No.2043925]

>>2043762
Where ever there is newsprint, I am with you my child.

[Anonymous No.2043928]

>>2043925
You draw on newsprint I draw on computer.

[Anonymous No.2043931]

>>2043928
You have an addiction. I have the treatment.

[Anonymous No.2043939]

>>2043931
So are you gonna do this or are you going to keep acting like a tard? I don't want to win by default.

[Anonymous No.2043949]

>>2043939
You'll always win with paper. Try it!

[Anonymous No.2043952]

>>2043949
You prove to me that you'll always win. You draw on paper. On hangouts. Don't make me say it again.

[Anonymous No.2043953]

>>2043939
Its sad he's being such an idiot. I feel like he was right about being too stiff.

[Anonymous No.2043959]

>>2043952
This isn't about me, it's about you coming to terms with your addiction. The only way to break free of your dependency is through pape. You can do this. We believe in you.

[Anonymous No.2043963]

>>2043959

I don't need a fuckin' scrub telling me what to do.

It seems I win by default due to the fact that you can't gesture draw a lick.

[Anonymous No.2043973]

>>2043963
I know this is difficult for you. The hardest part is admiting you are powerless against your addiction. But once you face that fact the better able you will be to persevere. Trust the paper.

[Anonymous No.2043976]

>>2043973
It's hard. For me. To do draw. on paper. to show you. in real time. because
I dont
have
a
MOTHERFUCKING
tripod and camera
like a rich motherfucker

just use the
fucking
wacom tablet like you said you can do both
you piece of
shit
so I can
stop replying to
your fucking
retarded ass

[Anonymous No.2044005]

>>2043976
Wait, wait, wait, you're telling me that you can afford a tablet, a computer, internet connection, the free time to argue with me, but some how your too poor for a cheap camera. There's not a device made today that doesn't have camera. There has to be somebody you know that has a phone you can snap a picture and email with. You're smart enough to setup a hangout, so I'm sure you could come up with something.

The paper wills it my child

[Anonymous No.2044015]

>>2043755
Ok, prove it. Post an example. Let's see a dynamic gesture of a cube.

[Anonymous No.2044016]

>>2044005
>Oh! I can do marvelous gesture drawings on a tablet.
>Oh! I can do marvelous gesture drawings on a tablet.
>Oh! I can do marvelous gesture drawings on a tablet.
Then join me on hangouts. Why is this so hard for you to do? Do you not see the contradiction in your stupidity?

I can't afford shit I'm a jobless bum in my moms basement. And next you'll tell me to use my moms phone to take a picture of a gesture on paper and I said

REALTIME HAND TO HAND COMBAT ON HANGOUTS

not a picture

REALTIME DRAWING

The tablet wills it my scrub.

[Anonymous No.2044017]

Some timed croquis cafe gestures.

I wished these threads would be less arguing and more drawings and critiques. Traditional, digital, who gives a fuck, just draw.

[Anonymous No.2044019]

>>2044017
>croquis cafe gestures
Is there a thing called "croquis cafe", or are you actually calling croquis gesture?

[Anonymous No.2044020]

>>2044017
Maybe next thread. Right now this thread will die with the jackal slain in cold blood.

[Anonymous No.2044021]

>>2044019
I mean the youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo/videos

[Anonymous No.2044022]

>>2043750
>gesture
Those are 90% mannequins.

[Anonymous No.2044024]

>>2044016
Paper is where it's at buddy. Don't knock it till you try it.

[Anonymous No.2044026]

>>2044024
Tablet gives you the freedom of creativity without woes. Give it a go.

[Anonymous No.2044043]

>>2044026
I don't need a computer or software to use paper.

>>2044015
here's an example of a still life gesture. it's dynamic. we can can see how the artist was searching for how the composition should flow. gestures can be applied to anything.

[Anonymous No.2044045]

>>2044043
forgot pic sorry

[Anonymous No.2044054]

>>2044045
That's... not dynamic at all. And I can't really tell what the scene even is.

Also, I have a real problem with you presenting that as an example of good gesture, when posting something like that would get me 40 replies of "line confidence".

[Anonymous No.2044079]

>>2044054
Well then you don't understand what dynamic means. And gesture is about interpretation more so than making it finitely descriptive.

feel the paper, brah

[Anonymous No.2044091]

>>2044043

You also don't need a computer and software to shitpost on /ic/...oh wait.

Wacom whispers your name...to photoshop you go!

[Anonymous No.2044097]

>>2044091
Thou shalt have no other mediums before me
Newsprint 20:3

[Anonymous No.2044098]

>>2044079

That leads more into the realm of composition, something you have very little knowledge about.

The tablet awaits your presents...go forth!

[Anonymous No.2044099]

>>2044079
It means "not static". Straight lines are the definition of static.

Gesture is description of action. Scratches do not capture action.

[Anonymous No.2044101]

>>2044098
Why is this person drawing himself as an anime girl?

nips are so creepy lmao

[Anonymous No.2044103]

>>2044101
>girls don't draw

[Anonymous No.2044105]

>>2044098
You can try to spin it any way you like, sooner or later you'll have to face the paper.

[Anonymous No.2044107]

>>2044097
In the beginning, Wacom created, the stylus and the intuos. And it was good.

Genesis 1:1

[Anonymous No.2044110]

>>2044103
why would a girl want to draw anime?

i dont think they get off to images like that

[Anonymous No.2044111]

>>2044105
You can avoid trying to learn industry standards, sooner or later you'll have to meet the demands of the client.

[Anonymous No.2044114]

>>2044097
>no medium but paper
Wanna know how I know you're retarded?

[Anonymous No.2044122]

>>2044099
>It means "not static".
Dynamic means change. That's a better way of defining it.

>Straight lines are the definition of static.
Lines have energy and can change with context. A horizontal line is calm and still, a diagonal line flows and moves.

>Gesture is description of action.
The action is given to the gesture, it's the artist interpreting the action that makes the gesture what it is. This is why so many artists talk about feeling the flow of things when doing the gesture.

>scratches do not capture action
And lines don't make a drawing?

[Anonymous No.2044125]

>>2044111
You can't even do a simple gesture drawing on paper, what makes you think you can meet those "industry standards"?

[Anonymous No.2044127]

>>2044125
You can't adapt to 21st century technology, what makes you think you can get client work?

btw the tablet needs dusting off

[Anonymous No.2044129]

>>2044122
no 'not static' is actually probably the most succinct definition you can get, assuming people know what static is. but it doesn't mean change, it means 'power that causes motion,' a motive force in other words.

i don't disagree with your attitude or anything, i just want to be pedantic about the word because to me it's an important difference, the force that causes a thing and the thing itself.

[Anonymous No.2044131]

>>2044122
>Dynamic means change.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/dynamic
No, it doesn't. You are also confusing the noun with the adjective, which is what we were discussing.

>A horizontal line is calm and still, a diagonal line flows and moves.
No. Both are static, as they have exhibit no change in direction or movement, they proceed from start to ending in the exact same way.

>This is why so many artists talk about feeling the flow of things when doing the gesture.
No, they talk about it because the body consists of a series of counter-balances, and as such "flows" the same way a river does.
Read Bridgman.

Also, learn to draw.

[Anonymous No.2044135]

>>2044129
Motion is change my friend

[Anonymous No.2044137]

>>2044135
Tablet is a new word.

[Anonymous No.2044138]

>>2044135
Motion is movement, you imbecile.

[Anonymous No.2044140]

>>2044131
>don't know shit about art principles
>thinks equivocation is cool

[Anonymous No.2044141]

>>2044138
Movement is change; from one point in time and space to another.

[Anonymous No.2044143]

>>2044140
>can't defend his claims when challenged
>thinks ad hominem is cool

[Anonymous No.2044144]

>>2044140
Tablet is love, tablet is life.

[Anonymous No.2044145]

>>2041531
what's the best way to break bodies down into basic shapes?

[Anonymous No.2044147]

>>2044143
And still no paper? Whaaaaa?

[Anonymous No.2044148]

>>2044145

read vilppu 2nd chapter

[Anonymous No.2044149]

>>2044147
I left it in ur mums vagina

[Anonymous No.2044153]

>>2044145
i use an axe

[Anonymous No.2044158]

>>2044149
So you can call her and have her post your real gestures on /ic/, right? Or would you rather I call her for you?

[Anonymous No.2044159]

>>2044153
i appreciate the humor but every time i try to fill out a sketch it always ends up stiff as hell
>>2044148
is it a physical book?

[Anonymous No.2044161]

>>2044158
I'd rather you call her because she left your tablet at my house and you really need it.

[Anonymous No.2044163]

>>2044158
Well, you could, but then the nickels would fall out.

[Anonymous No.2044164]

>>2044159
>is it a physical book
http://www.amazon.com/Vilppu-Drawing-Manual-Glenn/dp/1892053039

[Anonymous No.2044165]

>>2044159
>it always ends up stiff as hell
Have you tried rubbing it?

[Anonymous No.2044166]

>>2044165

[Anonymous No.2044167]

>>2044161
>>2044164
I'm starting to get the feeling you never real did those gestures, did you?

[Anonymous No.2044169]

>>2044167

Google Moatddtutorials, he will hook you up on how to practice using a tablet.

[Anonymous No.2044171]

>>2044169
You have no real gesture drawings. Is that why you've been avoiding it this whole time?

[Anonymous No.2044173]

>>2044171
I offered you a hangout and you refused to show interest all day.

Why do you avoid the digital medium?

[Anonymous No.2044174]

>>2044173
I'm only interested in your real gesture drawings though.

[Anonymous No.2044176]

>>2044174
Dame~ I'm only interested in you using the tablet. If you won't please me I won't please you.

[Anonymous No.2044183]

>>2044176
Tablet threads are for /g/ this is a gesture thread. Do you have any real gesture drawings?

[Anonymous No.2044184]

[Anonymous No.2044188]

>>2044183

It's not scary once you try gesture drawing on a tablet!

[Anonymous No.2044189]

>>2044183
I'm sure this has been asked before, but why don't you post your traditional gesture drawings to show him how it's done?

[Anonymous No.2044192]

>>2044188
Yes, but you, and particular just you, need to do them on paper first.
Baby steps, my friend
Baby steps

[Anonymous No.2044194]

>>2044192
You need to use a beeper before you use a smartphone. Baby steps, my friend

baby steps

[Anonymous No.2044198]

>>2044194
When are you just going to admit you've never done gesture drawings on paper, and that you've been lying to us this whole entire time?

[Anonymous No.2044200]

>>2044198
As soon as you admit you can't use a tablet because you're old and senile or just plain stupid? Which is never.

Adapt to the tablet or be left behind!!

[Anonymous No.2044202]

>>2044200
"I can't use a tablet"

There I said what you wanted to hear. Now will you please post some real gestures, like on real paper and stuff.

[Anonymous No.2044205]

Why the quotes?

Yeah I will post some real gestures, will you go out with me on hangouts?

[Anonymous No.2044207]

>>2044205
Still no pickles, huh?
What a shock.

We need to see real gesture drawings first before you and I can move forward in this relationship.

[Anonymous No.2044209]

>>2044207

I'm the straightforward type. I like to get to the point and not beat around the bush, ya know?

Just like the end goal is sex in relationships, the end goal is to get you on hangouts and finally use that tablet of yours.

[Anonymous No.2044213]

>>2044209
If you were straightforward you would have posted somet real gesture drawings already rather than spend two whole threads side stepping the issue.

[Anonymous No.2044219]

>>2044213
The >issue< is you still keep avoiding the hangout after you told me you can draw both trad and digital.

[Anonymous No.2044227]

>>2044219
You don't need a hangout to post your gesture drawings, silly. Stop making things so complicated.
Grape some paper and pencils and go to town. You'll love it, I promise.

[Anonymous No.2044230]

>>2044227

Oh but it isn't complicated. You just push the live button and share your screen! We'll do 30 sec pixel lovely gestures for all of /ic/ to watch.

Does that scare you? It shouldn't so as long as you trust the heart in the stylus.

[Anonymous No.2044231]

Why don't you raging faggots just meet up so you can suck each other's dicks already?

[Anonymous No.2044245]

>>2044230
"Yes, it scares me"

Now that we have that established let's see those gesture drawings already!

[Anonymous No.2044250]

>>2044245
https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/sSPRzi9D_lVlzJmhhDKrLGGFnOgr-6FTucuRh1GEj7U=?authuser=0&eid=105423974435996472671&hl=en_US


ore wa matteru ze

[Anonymous No.2044253]

I sure hope you've been doing some real gesture drawings on paper this entire time. I mean between the machismo homophobic comments and the lame attempts at changing the subject it would be embarrassing to have nothing to show for it. You only have a few more post to go in this thread, you better make them mean something if you ever want somebody here to take you seriously again.

Paper.

[Anonymous No.2044258]

>>2044253
The fuck you still talking, get in the hangout you fucking queer. I'm going to kill you before this thread dies.

Tablet.

[Anonymous No.2044260]

>>2044258
"Awwww! Y-you got me Anon. I'm dead."

Now let's see those gestures kiddo!

[Anonymous No.2044265]

>this thread

Is it just two faggots playing ass pat with each other? Where the fuck are the gestures?

[Anonymous No.2044266]

>>2044260

Get it the hangout. Are you man enough to witness defeat on LIVE video?

[Anonymous No.2044267]

>>2044265
I was about to say the same thing. This is disgusting

[Anonymous No.2044273]

Somebody is going to have to do a lot of samefagging if they ever want anons to participate in another gesture thread. I mean a lo-o-o-o-t of samefagging!

[Anonymous No.2044275]

I guess he won't participate. And if you think you've been wasting my whole day you're sadly mistaken, I was playing mmo and anime on another monitor.

If you decide to reclaim your masculinity tell me to restart the hangout. Until then, stay gay.

[Anonymous No.2044279]

>>2044275
What? You didn't see me just awhile a go? I think we keep missing each other. Like every time I login to hangouts you must be posting in /ic/. We keep playing phone tag by accident or something.

Tell you what, you sit tight and wait for me in the hangout until I can get there. Don't do anything else! Or we'll end up missing each other again. Just stay in there until I can login. Don't post on /ic/ until after we meet at the hangout.

Just wait there at the hangout, don't do anything else til I get there. Don't reply, just wait buddy I'm on my way.

[Anonymous No.2044281]

...is he gone?

[Anonymous No.2044282]

>>2044279

You've had ALL day now you're going to have to wait about 30 minutes because I have chores to do.

[Anonymous No.2044284]

>>2044282
And dinner so an hour. So forget it. I'll just make a new thread and no back-and-forth banter just get in.

[Anonymous No.2044286]

>>2044284
tomorrow

[Anonymous No.2044288]

>>2044282
What the fuck dude!? I told you stay there! Why can't you listen? How you can expect me to meet you on hangouts if you can't follow simple directions?

I don't anymore, man. I feel we've drifted apart. Maybe you should just post those gestures like you were suppose to and be done with it.

[Anonymous No.2044293]

>>2044288

Uhm I had the window open for 30 minutes and you didn't show up. Trying to save face isn't going to help you. But you get a chansu tomorrow to pick up those balls that dropped to the floor of yours.

[Anonymous No.2044327]

*Real* Gesture Thread
>>2044325
>>2044325
>>2044325

[Anonymous No.2044331]

>>2044327
Delete yours I'm going to maintain these threads from now on.

[Anonymous No.2044367]

you had to go ruin it for everybody huh?

I had schoolism and MB gesture vids for everybody but you decided to ruin my thread with your shit. Now nobody is getting it, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.2044400]

you wanna play that game I'll play that game

you're not the only fucker from warosu, you're playing fire with fire bitch