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Beginner Thread #357966142 None !NANNANNANA Tue Mar 31 12:29:05 2015 No.2038205 [Reply] [Original]

lets keep the theme going! SAMPLE OPs PIC COLORS AND DO SOMETHING COOL WITH THEM

As usual:
>Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.

(dont forget to resize+jpg before posting 4mb pngs)

OLD THREAD: >>2035213

>>	foxdit Tue Mar 31 12:32:48 2015 No.2038210 File: 514 KB, 1583x1192, lol3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] have my first ever lolis from last night. more on the way!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 12:34:21 2015 No.2038211 File: 623 KB, 2048x1536, IMG_20150331_092535.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Repostin 3stax study Crit, redline,advise.etc. Attempt 2 of 5

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 12:34:41 2015 No.2038212 File: 339 KB, 1200x2953, studseds.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gestures and stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 12:38:06 2015 No.2038217 File: 57 KB, 900x1322, diver_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how am i doing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 12:42:38 2015 No.2038219 File: 3.22 MB, 2368x3200, IMG_20150331_034739.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038205 Hello

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 12:48:28 2015 No.2038226 File: 71 KB, 604x530, IMG_20150331_002821.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038211 Reference image

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 12:59:52 2015 No.2038233 >>2038211 >>2038226 He's the wrong color and who the fuck is 3stax

Anonymous Tue Mar 31 13:55:53 2015 No.2038302

>>2038210
Are these from refs turned into lolis?

Shoulders/boob are wonky with the girl in the right drawing. Your faces look like they had a stroke. Watch the placement of your features. Do some construction and planning for the arms, boobs, face features.

Stop chopping off the feet or they will fall behind.

Pretty good though, keep it up m8

>>2038217
This doesn't apply to only you, but what is with the reductive line work? The lines look like they were carved out with an eraser instead of drawn in a single stroke. I guess I am not a fan of that look. Otherwise, his left arm looks a little puny, and the top of his chest piece looks a bit off.

>>2038219
Do some face studies to get the placement and feature sizes correct

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 14:01:46 2015 No.2038314 File: 56 KB, 900x1322, diver_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038302 yes i carve them out with the eraser, always seemed easier then pure line work. Here a little update, i don't get how the cables wrap around the hip.

Anonymous Tue Mar 31 15:05:34 2015 No.2038386

Been working on the bean and "robo bean" tried constructing some people out of that... ended up going back to hands.

Really struggling with drawing shapes for some reason, while beeing comfortable with my cubes and boxes. In perspective.

Any tips what i could pursue?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 15:06:48 2015 No.2038388 >>2038386 Forgot the goddamn link to the images. http://imgur.com/a/muYrm Didnt wanna spam the thread with severall images so ill link it like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 15:44:10 2015 No.2038408 File: 53 KB, 900x1322, diver_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038314 Are the hands too small?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 15:54:52 2015 No.2038426 >>2038233 Andre 3000 >>2038211 Still need crit to move on ppl>>2038233

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 16:00:48 2015 No.2038430 >>2038408 Fore arms are a little short, and hands a bit small. If you are up for the challenge you can have the hands in a more dynamic-non-fist pose

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 17:08:52 2015 No.2038504 nobody needs no loomis nor vilppu. it just takes 20 hours to be sakimichan :)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MgBikgcWnY

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 17:36:05 2015 No.2038536 File: 89 KB, 800x600, 3-31-15 lady attempt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time doing a study like this, I think I did a good job, how does it look?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 17:55:21 2015 No.2038561 >>2038205 does anyone know how you practice things like the body? like drills or something? i feel like im floundering around trying to learn and understand this shit. its all for hobby, i don't fucking want to pursue an actual career.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 17:59:02 2015 No.2038566 >>2038536 never think you did a good job, ever

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 18:12:55 2015 No.2038581 >>2038504 didn't watch it, this seems like a fucking lie though. if 20 hours is all you need, then the last 5 years of trying on my own was a fucking waste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 18:15:44 2015 No.2038583 File: 120 KB, 1280x720, 7150e44be398d401a6f00e74db1caa7a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038566 This. >>2038536 AHHHH! YOU CALL THAT MUDDY PIECE OF SHIT A 'STUDY'!? ... AHHHHH!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 18:15:47 2015 No.2038584 >>2038581 puss ass nigga

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 18:22:14 2015 No.2038593 >>2038583 i love you anon. seen whiplash 3 days ago :))

Anonymous Tue Mar 31 18:58:58 2015 No.2038623

>Eyeball angles. If you have an image and place dots on it, the other dots can be found by referencing an angle from at least two other dots that will intersect there. So, if I draw two lines from two different locations that intersect somewhere, their angle determines the proportion. If I make the distance between the two reference dots smaller, and then draw the same angled lines towards an intersection, that intersection will be a proportionately equal distance to the references as the time I did it and the references were further apart.

>Basically, if you don't want to measure it out with a pencil your options are to either draw a grid, do it intuitively, or find a reference point. maybe the references would be the end of the ear and the bottom of the chin, and the point you want to find is the left most edge of one of the eyes, and then you try to work out the angle from the chin to the eye, and the ear to the eye, draw those lines and look for where they intersect. That is where the edge of the eye is. Th

>This depends on your ability to accurately see angles, but if you can then you can scale up or scale down an image as much as you want. The further away your points are tho, the larger the room for error.

Interesting way of measuring proportions on organic objects. How do I improve my angle accuracy? I'm guessing just keep practicing, yeah?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 18:59:35 2015 No.2038624 >>2038504 I FUCKING KNEW THERE WAS A WAY TO PRACTICE EFFICIENTLY AND SHIT! I KNEW YOU FAGGOTS WERE HIDING SECRETS! 10K HOURS MY GOD DAMN COCK!

Anonymous Tue Mar 31 19:09:28 2015 No.2038635
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>>2038566
>>2038583
I'd say middle line that leans to the "shit on yourself" is best way to go, at least for casuals.
just say "oh I did good on this but I need to work on this and that, also I gotta be better".

unless you're going to work for a big company then all means shit yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 20:21:14 2015 No.2038691 >>2038635 >>2038583 >>2038536 "Remember; he who cannot see his flaws will walk the beaten path slowly, but he who sees only his flaws may cease to walk altogether." -me doing a Gandhi impression

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 20:37:41 2015 No.2038707 oy! i have just noticed im getting worse than like week before. does that mean im almost there?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:15:50 2015 No.2038758 how do i get eyes to look right? every time i draw them they look wrong, always.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:17:47 2015 No.2038763 >>2038758 how do i get everything besides eyes look right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:20:38 2015 No.2038767 >>2038763 what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:23:12 2015 No.2038771 >>2038767 everything looks shit, not just the eyes, so id rather have everything else look right than just only the eyes look right

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:36:47 2015 No.2038785 >>2038771 i'm still learning and i ran into a problem with eyes, i want to correct this. i want to get BETTER you fuck. im shit tier and anything that will help me is beneficial.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:50:19 2015 No.2038805 File: 348 KB, 2048x1536, IMG_20150331_164606.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Practicing. How about this?.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:55:35 2015 No.2038815 >>2038219 are you the guy said 'Loomis book are useless'?.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 22:40:19 2015 No.2038928 File: 1.10 MB, 2405x1428, aids.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] eeeuuughh please help

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 22:52:31 2015 No.2038955 >>2038536 Holy shit this is the worst thing in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 23:18:12 2015 No.2039021 File: 1.48 MB, 2544x1780, la foto(7).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I made a smug spider wearing a ribbed turtleneck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 23:24:00 2015 No.2039036 >>2038815 no sir, i am studying loois everyday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 23:29:09 2015 No.2039042 Im going to start studying Where should I start? Fun With a Pencil? Ive skimmed over that and it seems pretty basic and non helpful Figure Drawing? Successful drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 23:39:13 2015 No.2039064 >>2039042 FWAP if you're a complete beginner

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 23:55:49 2015 No.2039096 File: 392 KB, 1700x1189, Resize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Forgot to resize. Bad pic anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 23:59:17 2015 No.2039101 >>2038805 congration you done it you're getting there. The big one center-right is the best one, but the nose is fucked up and the eye socket is too angular.

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 00:45:48 2015 No.2039160
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>>2038623
I went ahead and attempted this method. Granted, I didn't put any detail into the drawing at all, as I was just testing to see if I got the proportions correct.

I basically drew lines on every corner (made a box, basically) and drew in the cup. It seems a off, but I'm not sure how to check my work.

When creating the box, I didn't know how to make sure I wasn't make the cup too wide, too tall, or making the hole too big. How would I check that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 02:20:17 2015 No.2039217 File: 650 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_20150331_200824.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038211 >>2038226 Attempt 3 of 5 Someone pls critique,or give me some fucking advice here

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 02:56:52 2015 No.2039238 >>2039217 mouth too wide pencil on a color photo hat ribbon highlight too small no smoothing ebin meme name symbol drawing read drawing on the right side of the brain and loomis

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 06:02:45 2015 No.2039331

>>2039160
I'll give an advice you but keep in mind I'm a beginner too. (altrough I went trough FWAP and Edwards' DotRSotB).
When I started my drawings looked like that too, however I never done that dot method you mentioned.
Well it needs practice and being sure about yourself to not redraw the same line over and over, and getting more comfortable with long lines.
I also noticed my drawings also look better if I start the structure with 2B pencil, erase construction and unneeded lines and finish the drawing with 4B pencil.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 07:01:19 2015 No.2039345 File: 65 KB, 900x1322, diver_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am i headed in the right direction?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 07:02:21 2015 No.2039347 File: 277 KB, 1583x1164, Planes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Studying some plane to broaden my visual library..

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 07:04:22 2015 No.2039349 >>2039347 get a light gray marker for your underlays, that neon yellow is hurting my eyes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 07:04:40 2015 No.2039350 >>2039345 The one thing that bugs me, is that the flippers on his right foot looks like it cuts into his foot, and said cut would make them far less usefull for moving underwater.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 07:05:40 2015 No.2039352 >>2039349 I just got back from the store now with 3, but yesterday that was all I had.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 08:35:05 2015 No.2039403 Nobody at the colors yet? I shpuld give it a go then

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 08:38:56 2015 No.2039405 How many Gesture drawings should I aim at doing a day?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 08:39:59 2015 No.2039407 >>2039405 20 is enough

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 08:55:02 2015 No.2039411

I'm sure this is asked a million times a day but I just want to know- how does a beginner work towards becoming comfortable?

I'm not asking for being totally full and happy with everything I do- that's unrealistic expectations. But I really want to draw a lot of the time but it feels like a chore and it feels like I can't draw what I want to draw because I don't feel confident and comfortable enough to do what I want to do. I barely draw because of this, and I never get better at something I spend every day thinking about.

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 08:56:50 2015 No.2039412

>>2039331
I actually finished Edward's Right Side of Brain and didn't have any trouble for the most part (the exercises that gave me trouble, I did them several times till it looked "okay").

However, Edward's drawing method simply only gave me a method to draw something a pencil's length.

My problem is, what if I want to draw the cup bigger? How do I make measurements then?

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:13:21 2015 No.2039425

>>2039412
Well I think you still can use the pencil to measure. You should get back to the perspective part of the book and re-read it, and also check out Norling's perspective made easy.
I'm currently reading that, and it really damn helps to understand how perspective works, also combining both of their methods works(at least for me)

I had trouble with Edwards' book too especially at that part, since the author doesn't really go in-depth, not to mention I didn't used a glass at all, just my eyes.

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:19:31 2015 No.2039428

>>2039425
Oh, this is strange. I just finished a advance perspective at the CG Academy and go through the finals and mid-term with ease.

I'm confused as to how perspective comes into play when getting proper measurements in trying to figure out correct proportions for organic items, while trying to make the image bigger on paper.

The pencil measurement only works to measure that set length. How would I go about making the image larger on paper without having to sit closer to it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:25:20 2015 No.2039437 >>2038388 Noone has any advice for me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:34:01 2015 No.2039446 File: 146 KB, 638x826, andrew-loomisfunwithapencil-33-638.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039428

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:38:40 2015 No.2039452

>>2039446
This isn't answering my question, since it's quiet simple to create someone's face in terms of measurements. You can judge when the nose is too far from the eyes, from the hair line, chin, etc and make corrects there. With that, you can adjust the face how large, small, wide, or tall you want it, and even use the distortion method presented with pic related.

My question is; if I'm sitting very far from my organic object (like a cup or apple), how do I make that image take up my entire page? Edwards' method forces you to sit closer to said object in order for it to look larger, but how do I avoid moving forward while having a larger image?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 10:35:03 2015 No.2039489 File: 35 KB, 600x881, diver_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039345 Trying to get it more "painterly" but actually dont know what im doing. >>2039350 You are right, i will change them

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 10:38:59 2015 No.2039492 File: 188 KB, 1024x683, Duck_Feet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039489 If you like the triangular cut, you can always just put thin surface between them to fix the swimming problem, then they work kinda like duck feet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 10:59:32 2015 No.2039504 File: 700 KB, 1748x2480, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What went wrong? I can see it's fucked, but I don't know why.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 11:03:48 2015 No.2039505 >>2039504 Because you lack the fundamentals

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 11:06:52 2015 No.2039507 >>2039505 What is more fundamental than a face from a ference?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 11:32:27 2015 No.2039512 File: 3.17 MB, 5000x4000, hands.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I honestly don't know what I'm doing. No formal training or really any sort of practice at all, just referencing my own hand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 11:33:44 2015 No.2039513 >>2039504 eyes seems to be a little too big nose shading doesn't seem to fit with the contours of the face, it seems a bit too big as well maybe the head is just too small I want to see the line art to see where you were going with it

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 11:35:25 2015 No.2039515 >>2039504 it looks like fucking smeagol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 11:43:02 2015 No.2039520 >>2039507 Understanding how a face works. Read fucking vilppu you lazy ass. Referencing isnt about copying what you see. Its in the first ten pages.....

>>	foxdit Wed Apr 1 11:56:00 2015 No.2039527 >>2039489 curious, did you make him clenching his fists because it's easier? he looks like he's about to punch a shark with his left hand, and press a remote detonator with his right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 12:06:42 2015 No.2039534 File: 845 KB, 1080x3277, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039512 Keep it up

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 13:08:36 2015 No.2039592
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>>2039534
Thanks anon, getting a little better. I like having references that are right in front of me, so I guess getting to the point where I don't need a physical reference and can do what you posted is doing straight from the head is what I'm aiming for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 13:11:37 2015 No.2039595 File: 57 KB, 900x1322, fuckthis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039527 >pic related is what happens when i don't clench the fists >I hate my life But thanks for getting me out of my comfort zone anon!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 13:12:39 2015 No.2039597 >>2039595 Also i could not think of a legit hand pose that makes sense

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 14:44:44 2015 No.2039663
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First thing i didn't instantly give up on, and went far out of my comfort zone (never even touched colors till now, newer even drew a whole body). Could not achieve the painting style i was going for, tho.
Crits are highly appreciated so i don't repeat the mistakes with the next one.

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 14:56:55 2015 No.2039669
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>>2039513
>I want to see the line art to see where you were going with it
There's no lineart, this is done in one layer by greasing different colors over the canvas, like painting and so on.

Well thought will be better but i guess it could pass for the first time. Never drawn faces before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 15:01:02 2015 No.2039671 >>2039669 >There's no lineart, this is done in one layer by greasing different colors over the canvas, like painting You understand that when you paint you have a drawing underneath it, right? You always start with a sketch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 15:02:45 2015 No.2039674 >>2039671 I kinda sketched with dark color that afterwards made the shades.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 17:47:24 2015 No.2039797 Just got my hands on Keys to Drawing and Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Which do you fags think I should start with?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 22:54:45 2015 No.2039977 File: 347 KB, 2048x1536, IMG_20150401_171006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038805

>>	foxdit Wed Apr 1 22:59:54 2015 No.2039980 File: 322 KB, 761x899, tristan_armor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is my first full digital render (line art scanned in). Would anyone care to critique or comment? I've been studying art for 5 months, if it helps to know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 23:02:08 2015 No.2039981 File: 425 KB, 2048x1536, IMG_20150401_181709.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039977 I'm reading Vilppu but but i think need learn and practice perspective first. Can recommend me some book or something else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 23:54:24 2015 No.2040019 File: 48 KB, 900x900, fsdfd222CHECKPOINT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hows my stylization going, for all its worth?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 23:57:33 2015 No.2040021 File: 112 KB, 1500x1500, fsdfd222CHECKPOINT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2040019 resized

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 02:28:02 2015 No.2040189

where do you even start? i feel like practice is hard, HOW do you do that? just draw an arm or leg over and over, learning its construction? how do you even draw in 3D?

i feel like i don't understand anything and none of these videos and books and guides are even helping at all. trying to wipe years of "learning" away is hard as fuck.

is it just drawing until you get it correct? starting small and working up, should i even bother drawing a whole person each time i practice?

this shit is making me break the fuck down, im about to lose it over trying to even learn just because i wanted to have a hobby and git gud.

not gonna post any work until i figure all this shit out and actually get started learning, everything i'm doing is flat as fuck and really unappealing and i KNOW WHY, but i feel like i can't change it.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 02:49:56 2015 No.2040195
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>>2040189
You're not gonna make it if you don't enjoy the process. You can't just grasp desparately for results, nor can you practice for endless hours without the pleasure the process brings. Passion is what makes newbies into good artists, not ambition alone.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 02:52:11 2015 No.2040196

>>2040189

Im in a simmilar spot than you are. Right now it feels like starting with the basics is a good thing. Train those, while occasionally drawing something out of my comfort zone. Then back to things like perspective, trying to draw figures.

The thing i noticed is, that i get most progress, when i sit down, and not only draw, but think hard about what im actually doing. Think before i place any line, why do i wanna put it there, then imagine it there, then maybe drawing it.

And im struggling with finishing things. Watched some Jake Parker video and he does make a good point. Its better to finish the things you start, than trying to make them perfect from the start. The things you are going to draw perfectly now, will look like crap to you in a few months once you get better. So i guess pick a subject, draw it, finish it, then do it again. Check what mistakes you made, and make a conscious effort to avoid them next time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 03:02:25 2015 No.2040198 >>2040021 I for one like it. Tons of appeal in my opinion. Keep going nigga, dawg, my man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 04:20:44 2015 No.2040226 File: 131 KB, 308x232, ooo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >install SAI >mfw these smooth ass lines

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 04:23:59 2015 No.2040228 >>2040226 Don't rely on the stabilizer all the time if you're a beginner, Anon. Actually learn how to get smooth ass lines manually.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 04:31:09 2015 No.2040231
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>>2040228
Photoshop was doing this with my lines, even after trying a bunch of fixes I found online. I can make pretty good lines on paper anyway so I don't feel like I'm hindering anything really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 04:35:38 2015 No.2040232 >>2040196 For me its the exact opposite, i get better results when i dont think too much about the stuff i do and let my subconscious take over. I felt like i worry way to much about perfection when i think hard about the stuff i do.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 05:45:11 2015 No.2040253
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my first ever time painting while following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3rgywIMTEg,

Wow this was cool. Seeing the shapes form by using a bunch of different colors was awesome. Really opened my eyes to this process. (I know mine sucks, literally my first time painting anything)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 05:47:42 2015 No.2040254 >>2038205 Pls crit. Excuse the shitty shading, I got carried away

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 05:49:33 2015 No.2040257 File: 2.09 MB, 2368x3200, IMG_20150402_054356~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pls crit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 05:52:06 2015 No.2040259 >>2040257 head doesnt stop at the eyebrow. the eyes are a halfway point >>2040253 this isnt that bad actually

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 06:00:34 2015 No.2040263 >>2040259 How should I improve ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 06:02:45 2015 No.2040266 >>2040253 me again, it feels so weird how the nose somehow formed from that flat plane of colors! I need to do this more

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 06:59:59 2015 No.2040282 File: 1014 KB, 2480x3496, New Canvas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039980 You're moving in right directioon BUT this looks like plactic. Not enough contrast, no reflected light. Reflections are wqhere it all is at especially on metal.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 07:22:21 2015 No.2040291

>>2040195
I always worry about "for you", I always worry about if this is just "not for me"

I've always loved art and have been very creative, and only recently (past ~2 years) thought heavily about becoming an artist. But I worry it's not for me- and why should I? If it's not for me, I can just move on, right? But I have this burning passion for it, and it hasn't gone away since I initially started my quest to become better at it. I constantly think up things I want to draw and how to draw them- but of course one's mental image is completely different than what you can actually do.

I worry that because I find doing anything that I want to do a chore and procrastinate being a lazy fucker all of the stuff I'm pursuing is just "not for me". But on the other hand, I just don't know if that because it's only been 2 years since I got out of highschool that I'm just a lazy fucker from doing nothing all day still. Even if I find what I really want to do boring and painful to go through because of my inexperience and confusion, should I still keep trying to work towards it, or is it just "not for me"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 07:50:54 2015 No.2040296 >>2039980 Decent progress, but pls study real armour, for the love of all that is holy.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 09:22:12 2015 No.2040338
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>Never been to actual life/figure drawing session
>Been waiting for local sessions to start
>Finally get invited to first sesh of the year
>Fuckyes.jpg
>"No teaching"
>"No critiques"
>"Just time to improve your skills."

What's the point of going to a life drawing session when I can stay home and not get critiques on /ic/ guize?

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 10:15:33 2015 No.2040377

>>2040338
Life drawing is a different skill than drawing from a reference picture. You see it in 3d and can get infinite different points of view to draw from. It is also harder to find the 'outline' of what youre drawing, but easier to find the depth.

I don't know what you were expecting though, figure drawing sessions are where you sit and draw what is on display for a few hours. They aren't classes. If they were classes they would be called classes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 10:51:36 2015 No.2040418 >>2040377 Thank you for clearing this up for me. I suppose I was expecting more of a teacher/student type relationship.

>>	foxdit Thu Apr 2 12:12:54 2015 No.2040489 >>2040282 Thanks anon, that seems right. I couldn't replicate the ref armor without adding hours to the rendering, so I left it 'smooth' ... I should write "made in china" on the breastplate. >>2040296 Will do! It was armor from a fantasy-styled ref

>>	foxdit Thu Apr 2 12:21:50 2015 No.2040495 >>2040291 For you, anon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbC4gqZGPSY

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 12:37:07 2015 No.2040511 >>2040338 Sounds like you thought life drawing is the same as attending a figure drawing class. That's your bad.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 12:39:31 2015 No.2040513

>>2040195
how can you enjoy practice? is it the knowledge that eventually you will get better? i mostly want to draw shit in an anime style, its where my influences came from and how i want my stuff to look. i was on DA forever, but i left because all the back patting wasn't really helping me improve at all. it was just people saying "that looks nice" and it being empty as fuck to me.

think i might dump my stuff on pixiv or tumblr once i get much better, right now i don't think anyone needs to see my shit tier anime doodles.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 12:53:52 2015 No.2040530

How do I get past perspective and basic shapes drawing?

I was learning how to draw for a very long time with many breaks, I'd like something something that'd let me resume learning and move past basics of fun with pencil and drawing on the right side of brain.

>>	dipshit beginner Thu Apr 2 13:19:31 2015 No.2040567 File: 242 KB, 3000x2500, am_i_bad_at_drawing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey guise, i made this, could you please point out my errors and also point out things i did well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 13:38:53 2015 No.2040590 >>2040567 The left one's arms are all fucked up, weird shoulders, chest line going to the armpit instead of the shoulder, noodle fingers... Other than that it's pretty OK, I would make their legs slightly longer though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:09:28 2015 No.2040820 >>2040567 your problem is the lines aren't confident enough, it would be really good if the lines were more confident

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:24:42 2015 No.2040836 File: 32 KB, 730x1083, apc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have real difficulty blending. I how do I do it without smudging and losing detail?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:02:28 2015 No.2040856 >>2040836 thumbnail looks really awesome, like 80s scifi paperback cover

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:10:59 2015 No.2040866 >>2040856 It looks awesome because the ref is Apocalypse Now

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:11:15 2015 No.2040867 File: 712 KB, 1030x580, itsamouse.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Currently practicing drawing diagonal lines atm, but here's a wireless mouse I drew not too long ago. I'm just searching for the right path in all this...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 20:48:08 2015 No.2040973 File: 22 KB, 730x1083, apctt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone help? How do I get the detail, this looks all smudged

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:37:55 2015 No.2041088
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I'm never able to get past this part of drawing something. Ever since I started taking drawing "seriously" I can never bring my self to finish a picture because I feel like its never good enough. I know that I'm worlds away from master level or professional level but I'm always scared to see how bad my pictures will turn out.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:43:34 2015 No.2041091

>>2041088
You just don't do it enough. Do more and more of those until they become second nature. The main problem is that you spend a lot of time, thought and energy on it, that you are already tired when it comes to finishing it. What you just did should be the quickest part. Also it helps not to use black for something that just blocks the major shapes. Save 100% black lines for the finished peice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:45:25 2015 No.2041093 >>2040973 Try adding actual objects to give it detail like characters and whatever is in the scene

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:47:21 2015 No.2041097 File: 116 KB, 960x960, 11021154_1633606040204048_2774701774302816182_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ????

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:56:02 2015 No.2041106

>>2041088

the pose is interesting but to me the shoulders and hips seem a little unnatural, like there isn't enough tension in the shoulders for the weight they're supporting, and the extended leg seems to be dangling because it doesn't exert force on the hip. also, I feel like there should be some kind of muscle tension in the neck to hold the head up at that angle.

on the other hand, the forms of the hands and bent leg seem convincing. the legs especially seem anatomically sound.

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 23:09:10 2015 No.2041113

I dont really care about art but I only want to be able to draw dynamic human poses from my imagination.

I understand I need to start drawing from life, where can I find a bunch of pictures of people? Or should I just literally use google and draw whatever person I see until I get good

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 23:30:19 2015 No.2041121

>>2038504
What you should take away from this video is that you should work on your fucking fundamentals, or at 200 hours of practice you'll still be shit, whereas the guy on 20 who actually put some thought into it will be in the glorious phase of mediocrity.

>>	Nobody No-One !GYqs/DrWho Fri Apr 3 03:15:53 2015 No.2041277 >>2039663 Think'd be nice if you made it a little more metallic and more glows, but you've done a great job on it.

>>	Nobody No-One !GYqs/DrWho Fri Apr 3 03:19:16 2015 No.2041284 File: 3 KB, 221x102, brush settings.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2040836 Enable Transfer, decide on your colours before hand and you shouldn't need to blend too much.

>>	Nobody No-One !GYqs/DrWho Fri Apr 3 03:22:39 2015 No.2041286 >>2041113 Google whatever or model on DAZ if you're artistically crippled like I am.

>>	Nobody No-One !GYqs/DrWho Fri Apr 3 03:36:54 2015 No.2041295 File: 1011 KB, 500x318, tumblr_n9r42j3WY41tvgo31o1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2040973 Thin brush and scribble. I stole this process gif off an artist which I think best illustrates "adding detail".

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:40:27 2015 No.2041298

>>2040973
I don't usually paint environment but I had a look at a load of reference, here's what I see what you should do.
Keep the sky, the land and anything you want to be visible (river and etc), rendered and separate, it looks like you're blending a the whole thing together.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 04:04:09 2015 No.2041309
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>>2038205
i need help with my drawing technique. it's nonexistent. i've been studying and sketching and shit for a while and i feel that while my perceptiveness and sense of proportion and negative shapes and whatnot has improved, my technique hasn't. I feel like I'm never actually thinking about the line I'm putting down in terms of anything other than its relation to the other lines, and as such the lines themselves are flat and devoid of expression and depth and I want to change that.

I don't know if I've just been going about it wrong (assumedly so) but I never know how to approach a drawing. I realize this is to be expected when starting out, but if I seriously don't have a reference right in front of me I'm just clueless. and even then I'm kind of clueless. here's a quick study I attempted. my sense of lighting is pitiful too.

tl;dr basically how do you render something on paper using lines, step by step. can anyone describe how exactly they approach it and what they think of during each step? anyone help pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 04:14:23 2015 No.2041312 File: 271 KB, 1500x1500, gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How are my gestures? Did 50, 120 seconds each.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 04:28:08 2015 No.2041320 as a beginner, i want to start with "Fun With a Pencil", right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 04:30:07 2015 No.2041321 >>2041320 Yup.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 04:41:33 2015 No.2041327 File: 156 KB, 1024x768, I still don't know what I'm doing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to know how to paint while using line-art as guidelines. You guys know of any tutorials that could help ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 07:50:02 2015 No.2041384 >>2041327 what do you mean? just put colors on a different layer while having the lineart on low opacity

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 08:32:09 2015 No.2041398 I need two color illustrations to partecipate in a contest next weekend and I want to have some shit to show at an editor in june. I can't came up with nothing I'm blank FUCK

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:55:00 2015 No.2041434 >>2041320 >tfw been working through keys to drawing after ditching right side of the brain for almost 2 weeks Fuck I envy people who can spend 8 hours working on their art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 10:19:48 2015 No.2041452 >>2041327 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nOJOcrlWLs

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 13:38:00 2015 No.2041644
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Let's see... Face looks constipated, values are off (although they look darker in my sketchbook than in the scan) but proportions seem alright. Anything else I should take note of?

Next time I'm just gonna use a felt tip pen, block in the values and crosshatch. Pencils are too smudgy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 14:00:48 2015 No.2041681 File: 555 KB, 1296x968, aaaa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] About 10 minutes of gesture drawing. Maybe more.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 14:46:57 2015 No.2041728

>>2041644
I don't know all the right jargon but I think thr main thing that could be better are how her clothes look. I can't tell if some lines are supposed to be wrinkles/folds or seams unless i stare really close at your drawing and compare it to reference.

I am only ONE set of eyes tho, so take what i say with a grain of salt

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 14:50:45 2015 No.2041737 Hey, I want to learn drawing faces and heads. How should i start with this area? I guess have some little issues with perspective so I'll probably draw some cubes. Anyway do you know some good Tutorials for this subject?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 14:59:01 2015 No.2041747 >>2041728 yeah I know exactly what you mean, the bits and pieces in drawing doesn't read very well. gonna experiment and see what I can do to alleviate that next time.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 15:10:58 2015 No.2041767
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>>2041681
WAAAAIT!!!
Don't do that fast, your skills can't handle that fast gesture drawings. Take a break and analyse what a human actually looks like. If you wanna do fast gestures do it with "motion lines" ONLY!
like this picture.
If that is not fun, draw other shit that is not as complicated as humans. For now atleast. From how many angles can you draw a cube? draw and see.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 15:29:37 2015 No.2041791 >>2041452 Thanks. I appreciate the help.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 15:32:51 2015 No.2041795

Is there logic in where to place the tones under the skin? I mean there must be, surely, I just don't see it in human faces enough to actually see where or how I'm supposed to implement it. Is it pretty much slow trial and error until you get it right in a picture?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:45:17 2015 No.2041863 >>2041767 I actually had a ton of fun, but I'll do as you say. Thanks for the suggestion!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 17:09:30 2015 No.2041884 File: 2.60 MB, 4160x2340, profile face sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any critique or suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 17:37:11 2015 No.2041894 File: 101 KB, 800x786, Spring14_by_faestock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2041884 looooong space between upper lip and nose. huge nose, poor shading. try reference.

foxdit Fri Apr 3 18:37:08 2015 No.2041927 [DELETED]

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Is there anything else I should do to this before finishing up?

I've spent way too long already trying to fix the eyes, so unless there's some really specific advice there's not much more I can do with them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:39:18 2015 No.2041930 File: 3.62 MB, 4160x2340, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2041894 Any better?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:46:36 2015 No.2041935 File: 15 KB, 275x321, not a penis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] slowly making progress. any suggestions?

foxdit Fri Apr 3 18:47:35 2015 No.2041937
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Is there anything else I should do to this before finishing it up with final details?

I've spent way too long already trying to fix the eyes, so unless there's some really specific advice there's not much more I can do with them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:01:48 2015 No.2041947 >>2041935 need more face anatomy. read some books or watch some tutorials on youtube, bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:53:23 2015 No.2041998 >>2041884 >>2041930 Rear side of their heads looks too short. Like they're missing the back part of their skull.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:54:43 2015 No.2041999 >>2041935 nice symbol drawing.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 20:05:31 2015 No.2042017

>>2041935
Looks really flat, a result of a combo of symbol drawing and drawing the face as if it were on a flt surface. The face isn't placed flatly on the head, it's /part/ of the head and curves with it. Look at actual heads and figure out where the facial features sit in 3D space before drawing them on paper.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 21:39:16 2015 No.2042102 File: 533 KB, 955x1189, 023.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2041935 reference. find it. use it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 21:45:39 2015 No.2042113 File: 341 KB, 1242x682, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm trying to improve my perspective. What are you guys's favorite things to draw when practicing perspective? Any exercises/especially helpful video/books?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:11:47 2015 No.2042150 File: 1.24 MB, 1413x2426, IMG_20150403_190443.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how bad did I fuck up?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:31:08 2015 No.2042177 >>2042150 Incredibly bad You're symbol drawing, go to the wiki and download some of the most beginnerest of beginner books.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:47:51 2015 No.2042198
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>>2042177
I guess I don't understand still. I went through beginner books already. I even read the sticky before it 404'd. I have the loomis books and I'm going through them. I also do many tutorials I find online.

I thought I had identified my symbol drawing and was getting away from it. I don't draw big circles for eyes or just flat almonds anymore I thought. I'm not using an L for a nose. I even draw in the nostrils.

I just don't get it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:16:04 2015 No.2042209 >>2041930 ... did you even look at the reference?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:20:35 2015 No.2042213 >>2042150 Gorilla arms. Do you know nothing about proportion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:35:24 2015 No.2042218 File: 736 KB, 1385x900, loomis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042150 needs loomis.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:36:39 2015 No.2042219 >>2042218 lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:46:34 2015 No.2042224 >>2042218 thank you now I know what to study.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:19:47 2015 No.2042243 File: 348 KB, 1024x805, 1426564916234.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NEEDS LOMIS EEDS OMIS DS IS

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:52:38 2015 No.2042255 >>2042243 That looks really nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:10:44 2015 No.2042260 >>2042243 Karl Kopinski influence maybe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:18:46 2015 No.2042263 >>2042243 now THAT'S how I want my sketchbook to look

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:18:54 2015 No.2042264 >>2042260 kopiniski is pretty good would cuddle

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:23:42 2015 No.2042268 >>2042255 >>2042260 >>2042263 >its posted all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:36:22 2015 No.2042277 >>2042243 It makes me feel better to know that even Wes Burt has that habit of drawing one eye waaay off to the side. Look at the two women on the bottom left. One eye is waay out there. Can't unsee can you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:45:38 2015 No.2042282 >>2041434 I ditched right side of the brain too. That book is an awful starting place since it doesn't teach you to draw. It just teaches you how to see. So anything you draw using that book is shit.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:50:24 2015 No.2042283

>>2042282
This is what confuses me. I try Drawing on the right side of the brain, suck at everything I draw, and people here say it's because I'm not doing construction. Problem is, the book doesn't tell me to do construction. It wants me to draw the imaginary shapes around the drawing. Everyone on /ic/ goes against the book, but tells me to use it. What do?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:00:57 2015 No.2042289

>>2039411

If you want to do something, really want to, then there is no necessity for this thoughtfulness. It's just procrastination, plain and simple. Your comfort and confidence is not necessary for you to practice, and should not be expected regardless. You want to draw then do it, consideration is useless. Grab whatever artistic implement you're using, find something to study, and struggle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:02:12 2015 No.2042290 >>2038536 I will say this. It is incredibly surreal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:12:06 2015 No.2042300 File: 137 KB, 1023x813, heads.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to learn how to into heads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:14:43 2015 No.2042305 >>2042283 Use it. The people telling you not to use it are generally parrots. Use it until you can draw what you see in front of you, then ditch it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:22:19 2015 No.2042310 >>2042283 Keys to Drawing, Vilppu drawing manual, Loomis

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:22:25 2015 No.2042311 >>2041884 >>2041894 Realism aside, I enjoy the style of the peice. It's got character.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:26:40 2015 No.2042314 File: 426 KB, 1632x1224, fun3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's what I did today. I wasn't studying anything in particular and had no goal. Just having fun. Sorry for the poor camera quality. 1/2

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:26:52 2015 No.2042316 your proportion is borked and you're connecting the jaw in the wrong place jaw connects roughly in the middle of the side circle, and the jaw should be roughly one sixth the length of the original ball

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:29:14 2015 No.2042320 File: 509 KB, 1632x1224, fun2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042314 2/2

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:39:05 2015 No.2042324 >>2042316 thank you

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:41:52 2015 No.2042327 File: 1.59 MB, 1520x2688, IMAG0233.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw camera registers drawing as face :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:50:17 2015 No.2042333 >>2042327 I love those cooky line faces. Yur pretty gud

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 02:52:28 2015 No.2042334 >>2042333 thoes are what I draw when I'm burned out from real drawing pretty much. They're pretty fun to do, just makin' faces out of blobs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 03:48:42 2015 No.2042350 >>2038536 The thumbnail reminds me of that guy from the Monthy Python movies for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 05:43:37 2015 No.2042381 File: 2.22 MB, 2368x3200, IMG_20150404_054015.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2038205 Why is this keeping so bad ? I'm practising Loomis so much. I feel bad

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 05:47:09 2015 No.2042383
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>>2042381
You are practicing and not reading what he says. Try to start from the circle steps again and this time read it thoroughly. I'm still on the head section myself.

>>	nigga you aint even kawaii Sat Apr 4 05:48:37 2015 No.2042384 File: 282 KB, 1080x1920, Picture 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll bite. This something I draw a week ago. I wouldn't mind having some critiques. I have thick skin. XD

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:01:33 2015 No.2042396 File: 2.30 MB, 2368x3200, IMG_20150404_060113.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042383 I'm kinda past that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:03:28 2015 No.2042397 File: 2.20 MB, 2368x3200, IMG_20150404_060310.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042383 His cartoony piece I did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:04:02 2015 No.2042398 >>2042396 No you're not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:05:58 2015 No.2042399 >>2042398 What is wrong in it ? You are beginner yourelf.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:19:53 2015 No.2042403

>>2042399
I'm not the same anon, but do you honestly think that head looks properly constructed? Mad props for trying Loomis but I honestly think you should look at something simpler than head construction right now. It looks like you're thinking in 2d and symbols, also your strokes are way too scratchy. But keep at it, the fact that you even opened up Loomis must mean you really want to learn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:25:38 2015 No.2042410 File: 1.74 MB, 3264x2448, 1428143114808-343888405.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042403 Thanks for the good words man. So do you think I should learn still life instead of trying Loomis ?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:27:46 2015 No.2042414

>>2042383
fun with pencil is horrible for a beginner. get ready to ragequit with the body chapter that is basically "you know how to draw a circle, now draw a realistic body with no flaws" with just a page of text as sole explanation for the difficulty jump.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:28:31 2015 No.2042415 >>2042414 What donyiu recommend ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:31:33 2015 No.2042419 >>2039674 Don't ask why it's fucked up when you didn't even follow basic practice.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:35:19 2015 No.2042423

>>2040513
Two attributes will let you improve at something. Genuinely being able to enjoy the process of failing and improving, and not being bothered by being shit at first. I envy these people. They seem to enjoy life more. The other kind is an academic drive, the willingness to put in the hours on the promise that there will one day be a reward.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:36:30 2015 No.2042424
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>>2042414
I did read forward and see that. That is why I am checking out proko's videos on the side to help with constructing a body. He loomis did go through with how to draw some skellies so that works.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:41:34 2015 No.2042427

>>2042410
Maybe look at some Betty Edwards, still life is always good. Start using your whole arm, practice just drawing straight lines to get more confident (just for a few minutes now and then). Also draw stuff you want to draw otherwise shit's gonna get boring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:56:36 2015 No.2042430 File: 1.10 MB, 2560x1920, autoret.1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1/4

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:57:24 2015 No.2042431 File: 1.03 MB, 2560x1920, autoret.2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042430 2/4

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:58:06 2015 No.2042433 File: 1.11 MB, 2560x1920, autoret.3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042431 3/4

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:59:10 2015 No.2042434 File: 1.40 MB, 2560x1920, autoret.4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042433 4/4 Please, crit and recommend me new ways to improve my skills. Thanks anons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 08:56:01 2015 No.2042469 did someone actually improved?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 09:06:18 2015 No.2042475
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I just started drawing again for the first time since high school. This is the firs result after practicing for a few hours with Loomis. How much do I suck?

Also, what book/video/whatever do you guys recommend for drawing bodies?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 09:14:07 2015 No.2042483
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>>2042469
I think so.

>>2042475
You can try some of proko's vids, he has some nice tutorials on bodies and how to construct them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqxPHew5bGQ

As for me I'm having a lot of fun painting. I suck at it but its fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 09:30:34 2015 No.2042489 >>2042483 N O O D L E B O Y S

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 09:44:28 2015 No.2042496
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does anyone else get eureka moments?

I know this is extremely simple but I'm so fking happy right now that I learned how to make spheres properly. Like it just clicked in my head that I need to draw the curve from one point to another, and the higher the curve is the higher the person would be looking up or down.

That properly made no sense but yeah I feel good

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 09:47:55 2015 No.2042501 File: 135 KB, 988x298, laskdflk2f3324.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042475 ha I'm following that book right now too, I'm on my adventure to get good. That's not bad to me, better than what I did

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 09:49:17 2015 No.2042502 File: 119 KB, 1024x768, perspective try.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042496 Yea. its same with me and perspective. Finally getting the understanding of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:20:41 2015 No.2042514 >>2042218 can i get the original image of reference in middle

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:23:58 2015 No.2042515 File: 136 KB, 684x1024, every--nudes-erotic-10697_6_big.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042514

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:43:20 2015 No.2042521 >>2042017 I think something people forget is that even 2D drawings like in cartoons and anime are still based on 3D, they're not flat unless you count things like flash cartoons where they just flip things the other way.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:44:13 2015 No.2042522

>>2042475
Considering how bad a lot of beginners do with the loomis potato faces, that's actually pretty good. (for a beginner)

If you think you have an alright understanding of constructing things in 3d then you might want to consider just skipping to Figure Drawing For All Its Worth by Loomis or Michael Hampton's Figure Drawing book.
Proko makes some good videos for figure drawing too.

Though if you don't know it yet, you might want to learn some basic perspective before diving into the figure. Scott Robertson's "How to Draw" is a good in depth guide for perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:09:52 2015 No.2042531 >>2042403 How to stop thinking in 2D and symbols? Drawing with the right side of the brain still didn't help much. Arguably it's more like a thesis than a practice book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:14:24 2015 No.2042533 >>2042522 >Scott Robertson's "How to Draw

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:17:58 2015 No.2042534 File: 130 KB, 750x462, iikk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how are these?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:52:44 2015 No.2042549
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>Try to find other beginners i can chat about art with and keep each other drawing
>Look all sorts of places for people also looking for artist friends
>Everyone i find wants to draw manga or anime and nothing else
>These people also massively overrate their own abilities (Calling themselves above beginner because they can barely copy an anime face)
>Most other artists don't want to draw but instead another artform (Nothing bad about it, we just can't help each other much)
>The rest don't take it seriously and don't want to improve
>Almost everyone is in a completely different timezone as me.
>People i've added from /ic/ aren't talkative at all or don't draw after enough days
>mfw
I don't mind hermitting but i like talking to people while drawing and having someone to talk with art about.
Sorry for the blogpost i just needed to get this off my chest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:00:34 2015 No.2042556 >>2042549 what do you like to draw and do you have any goals or milestones?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:05:47 2015 No.2042559 >>2042556 dragons and spacemarines

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:09:21 2015 No.2042563
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>>2042556
My 'goal' right now is being able to draw people, so gesture drawing, line usage, anatomy and form are the things i practice the most at the moment, and i feel the most reward of practicing. Semi-realism in my own style is my larger goal. Have a few of the many 2-minute gestures i did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:10:33 2015 No.2042564 >>2042559 What level are you at? I'm still a beginner I just want to draw humans and poses personally, never really been interested in dragons or inorganic stuff

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:10:45 2015 No.2042565

>>2042549
I think that some people might change. For example when I started learning Japanese I did so mostly for anime, but as I continued to learn I found more things I was interested in that I could use the language for that I hadn't considered prior. While some may want to just stay where they are, others might learn to enjoy drawing other things as they improve too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:11:41 2015 No.2042567 >>2042563 yeh that's exactly my goal too

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:12:41 2015 No.2042569 >>2042565 I agree 100%, well said

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:17:33 2015 No.2042572 >>2042563 how do you practice? I like your lines btw

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:21:35 2015 No.2042575 >>2042549 Does conceptart have an IRC channel or skype group? We have a IRC group, so you can check that out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:23:55 2015 No.2042579 File: 1.61 MB, 1666x768, sh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My first attempt at digital colour. Took a screenshot of a game "Dead Or Alive 5" and wanted to breath some life into a section of it. Nothing too amazing.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:39:00 2015 No.2042591
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>>2042572
I practice by reading something or watching a video and then applying it. Right now i jump between Hampton and Villpu. I also practice line accuracy but it gets tiresome after about an hour or more.
I try and get a hang of one small thing at a time, so being able to draw something that looks like a leg is good enough, i can aim for more realism later.
It's really nice when you get a hang of something. This drawing was done without any reference or construction. I've only really practiced arms and legs, so the body and head is pretty basic.
> I like your lines btw
Aww thank you

>>2042575
irc.thundercity.net #conceptart
>Looking up irc.thundercity.net
>Connecting to irc.thundercity.net (212.79.239.14:6667)
>Connection failed (Connection refused)
I can't join sadly

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:47:52 2015 No.2042596 >>2042579 Looks like some shitty PS filter.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:24:20 2015 No.2042614
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I'm not sure what I'm doing. I was copying a gesture as noted by the stick figure from something else, but I couldnt find the photo to copy again, so I just kept going from reference from something else.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:01:34 2015 No.2042641

How do I aproach drawing expression of emotion? Up to this point I was trying to draw everything "correct" anatomically. If I wanted to tackle this subject, do I just look up facial expressions and try to copy them or maybe figure it out from the other way - anatomical possabilities of the face ( If I could call it that way )?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:06:07 2015 No.2042642 >>2042641 Forgot to add that it's lineart.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:20:22 2015 No.2042648 >>2042641 Observe the small changes in eyebrows, mouth, posture, etc... that make your character give off different vibes or emotions

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:33:34 2015 No.2042658 >>2039980 the light is shining incorrectly on the amour light reflects off metal in very strange ways that you might not expect, look at reference for that.

>>	nigga you aint even kawaii Sat Apr 4 14:44:37 2015 No.2042668 >>2042384 Did I get passed on? Like......................o.k

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:46:54 2015 No.2042670 >>2042384 make more confident lines and study head structure

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:55:13 2015 No.2042686 >>2042614 That is sloppy as hell. What are you even trying?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:18:14 2015 No.2042704 >>2042686 Trying to make anything, but thanks for the helpful insight. Just want to make a character, I know its shit so far, but as far as body proportions so far as a cartoon character goes, how bad is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:19:21 2015 No.2042707 >>2042704 You should not being starting off by making cartoon characters it goes realism first, then you can learn to styalize

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:24:23 2015 No.2042709

>>2042707
Fair enough. As far as realism goes, should I begin with the face, or just go full body realism and get to it when I get to it?

Also, I have two options. Sketchbook, or a tablet. I think the tablet is considerably less easy to get what I want out of it, but I have the option of ctrl-z. The sketchbook is way easier to get exactly what I want out of it, but eraser marks. Better option to go with, or just do on both until you get good on both?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:44:46 2015 No.2042721

Hello!

I want to start out with drawing and art in general in a couple of days.

I have two questions.

At what level I should post my stuff online?
I don't want to embarrass myself too much, because I am certain I'm not talented nor I can afford fancy tools to work with.

If you post your stuff online, how people can see your stuff?
I'm of the loop with internet stuff to be honest.

Thanks for the answers in advance!

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:52:29 2015 No.2042731

>>2042709
a healthy mix of figure drawing and portraiture is probably what you want to do.

As for trad vs digital, I'd personally start with trad, because in my opinion it's easier to learn basics when you're struggling less with our medium. Once you earn a modicum of skill you can start working on using your tablet so you don't have to work with both a massive lack of fundamental knowledge and the use of a more difficult medium at once.

>>2042721
>At what level I should post my stuff online?
As long as you post in the proper environment, any level. These threads are for people who are new.

> If you post your stuff online, how people can see your stuff.

depends largely on where you post it. Here it's anyone who happens to see your post. On sites like deviant art no one will really see it until you start to get popular.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:55:22 2015 No.2042732

>>2042721
If you're new you can just start with paper and pencil and loomis. You don't need fancy tools. As for how good you need to be to post online just make sure to post it in environments appropriate for your skill level. These threads would be a good place to start with that.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:59:29 2015 No.2042736

>>2042731
Sounds good, thanks for the direction!

I was kinda gathering that too, though I do like the ease of use of the medium as far as a supplies standpoint, just using it does take getting use to. I suppose those tablets with the built in screen are easier for that, but that's a lot of money I don't want to spend for a tool on which the craft has not nearly been perfected.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:00:20 2015 No.2042737

>>2042732
That's the plan.
I have some pencils, some old notebooks to draw in.

Posting here sounds logical too!

>>2042731
>As long as you post in the proper environment, any level. These threads are for people who are new.

That's cool.
Some early feedback could help a lot.

>depends largely on where you post it. Here it's anyone who happens to see your post. On sites like deviant art no one will really see it until you start to get popular.

That makes sense.

Thanks for the answers!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:23:13 2015 No.2042755 And actually what do I draw first when I am beginning? Considering I want to try learning to draw. I can't really draw anything...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:26:39 2015 No.2042759 >>2042755 what do you want to draw? The way you get good at drawing something is by drawing it. So draw what you want to draw.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:27:05 2015 No.2042760 File: 436 KB, 720x960, room.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2042755 Copying from life. It is literally the most basic and most important skill of drawing. You don't have to perfect it to move on but take it seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:29:20 2015 No.2042763 >>2042759 I am interested in machine stuff and a certain cartoon that shall not be named.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:29:34 2015 No.2042764

>>2042755
If you're just starting out you are going to want to focus on these things:
-Drawing what you see
-Pencil techniques (line control, ability to place even tones)
-Proportion

You could do the drawing upside down exercise, it will teach you how it feels to observe something and draw what you see. Don't do it too many times, it's just to get you into a good habit of really looking at the subject.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:30:57 2015 No.2042766 >>2042760 Roger. I'll do that! Sorry for the stupid questions. Art is a bit cryptic for the outsider.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:33:00 2015 No.2042771 >>2042763 Learn to draw what you see, do value studies, draw from life and you are going to have to learn perspective if you want to do machine stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:33:30 2015 No.2042772 >>2042764 Tones sound really hard. Also yeah. I heard of the upside down stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:35:52 2015 No.2042774 >>2042771 Thank you! Notes taken.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:38:02 2015 No.2042775

>>2042772
They are at first but if you work at it enough you will start to get it. For a value study I'd suggest finding a black and white photo of something simple (a pot, an orange), using a grid on your ref and your drawing paper, and going at it. There's a process you learn with this, too but that's a lot of explaining and it's best for you to do the first one on your own then come back with what problems you're having.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:40:13 2015 No.2042776 >>2042775 So it's down to practice basically?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:54:45 2015 No.2042786 >>2042776 Basically. Doing those studies trains your eye and you learn technique while doing it. Just go try it and come back when you need help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:04:08 2015 No.2042795 Do you have to draw with the whole arm?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:05:41 2015 No.2042798 >>2042795 Not all the time. It's very good for sketching, gestures and big forms or long lines, but you don't want to draw that way for smaller details and lines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:12:54 2015 No.2042804 File: 1.08 MB, 3000x2000, Ninj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to get used to color and stylization I guess >dont kill me pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:35:55 2015 No.2042822 Any good videos that goes over foreshortening when drawing the human figure?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 19:01:20 2015 No.2042919 >>2042686 >implying you are a great artist and not a broke ass NEET "drawing" anime girls all day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 19:33:08 2015 No.2042959 Would anyone be interested in being a private teacher? In return I offer teaching you how to program.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:32:41 2015 No.2043030
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Here's the most recent stuff I drew.

I got to drawing feet in FWAP, so I decided to take a break and practice faces and figures for a while. That book moves way too fast for some things, and spends too much time on hats and old people.

I feel like I'm still having trouble applying some of the techniques Loomis presents, especially for drawing faces, and have kind of developed my own methods based around the ideas he's teaching.

I'm not sure if I should go reread the stuff near the beginning of the book, keep practicing the stuff I've learned, or try to get through more of the book so I can actually get to section on perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:50:10 2015 No.2043037 >>2042804 the nose looks kinds lopsided, have you tried looking at the image mirrored? Also I think the shadow on the cheek on the left is too hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:26:19 2015 No.2043066 File: 374 KB, 1000x423, work.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tried to draw this... Could I possibly have some crit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:28:07 2015 No.2043067 >>2043066 Head's too small, legs are too far forward.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:30:03 2015 No.2043068 >>2043067 I see. Thankyou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:33:38 2015 No.2043130 File: 153 KB, 600x600, one outta 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have two more like this. How did I do? If you're wondering, yes, its charles dana gibson.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:49:17 2015 No.2043139 >>2043067 it's weird how it's easy to miss these details until they're pointed out.

foxdit Sat Apr 4 23:47:50 2015 No.2043189

>>2043139
one of the best ways I discovered to see those things without someone else having to point them out is to flip the canvas horizontally in your painting program. Forces your brain to process the image again and you really see some insane mistakes. It truly blew my mind the first time I flipped the canvas. The drawing was such shit all the sudden I just wanted to close photoshop and nope the fuck out. Haha

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:08:08 2015 No.2043200 >>2043139 Since you're working on digital it's as simple as overlaying the image on top of your reference and seeing where you fucked up. Unless you weren't going for an exact replication that is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:38:24 2015 No.2043216 >>2043130 your values are dildos

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:52:47 2015 No.2043223 File: 3.38 MB, 1296x1564, Screen Shot 2015-03-25 at 6.40.03 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2043130 you really need to work on your strokes. I would suggest less of a zig-zag scribble to cover large areas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:54:10 2015 No.2043224 File: 3.09 MB, 1122x1498, Screen Shot 2015-03-25 at 5.13.21 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2043223

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:06:02 2015 No.2043234 >>2043223 >>2043224 What book is this? And is there other books that help describe how to draw organic/simplifying objects?

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:18:28 2015 No.2043240
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now that i'm more satisfied with my anatomy i'd like to start drawing faces, what's a good book to learn, or tutorial, I've tried the Hampton book but I didn't like it, and I really dislike Loomis, what has worked for you guys?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:22:20 2015 No.2043242 >>2043240 Nice job. Where did you learn your anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:28:15 2015 No.2043248 File: 848 KB, 1944x1944, IMG_20150401_101750.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:37:54 2015 No.2043250 >>2043242 I've used the Vilppu drawing manual, and a book called human anatomy for the artist by Goldfinger.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:43:51 2015 No.2043255 >>2043240 Oh gosh anon i love you anatomy drawings. For how long did you practice anatomy? And how long did those drawings take for you to make?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:06:52 2015 No.2043276 File: 1001 KB, 1520x2688, IMAG0238.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did some more face practice

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:38:46 2015 No.2043299 >>2043240 What brushes do you use? Please, tell me, i'm desperate for non-shit brushes in photoshop.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:57:40 2015 No.2043307 Do you guys have any good books/pages that explain the basics of drawing hair? Everything I draw turns into some kind of abomination or into an anime style mess. I'm using Loomis but he seems to completely ignore the subject.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 03:19:43 2015 No.2043317 >>2043255 thank you, they're half to one hour each, I've been practicing for a year now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 03:28:03 2015 No.2043324 >>2040263 >head doesn't stop at the eyebrow. the eyes are a halfway point your character is missing the top half of his head, add a forehead and put a little more into the back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:48:21 2015 No.2043352 >>2043250 I've heard good things about the book by Goldfinger. I should look into that.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 05:39:59 2015 No.2043390
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Guise I have few questions I hope you will answer and keep the trolling to minimum.

First Ive been doing Keys to Drawing and got half way to chapter 3,now the problem is Im neet and I dont have access to drawing real people.
Can I use images for learning instead?

Second Im having troubles with finishing first loomis book because I dont have motivation for some reason,for a time I was drawing every day for at least few hours whole month but then I stopped and I cant bring myself back to do it.Any help on this?
Also I will post everything Iv done so far if anyone wants to take a look at it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 05:50:43 2015 No.2043398
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does loomis' plane and ball method ever get faster?

>Can I use images for learning instead?
google quickposes

>Any help on this?
lack of motivation is a common problem. set aside some time in your day to alternate between relaxation (vidya, movie, whatever) and working on your art.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 05:52:24 2015 No.2043400 >>2043398 meant to quote >>2043390

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 05:54:51 2015 No.2043401 >>2043398 Ok so I can use images to learn fundamentals about drawing. I was thinking to put them on 32" TV and get to the real experience as much as I can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:44:23 2015 No.2043431 File: 687 KB, 1748x2480, 1427900372869.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2039504 Muddy brushwork, the colors are off, the proportions are off also basically no values on the left side of the face making it look flat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:46:46 2015 No.2043433 >>2043398 Different guy but pixelovely also has some good pictures for that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:50:02 2015 No.2043436 >>2042534 right ones chin looks a bit off, also the cheeks look kinda funky when they are so different on each side of the face on both of the faces. Don't make them identical but try to keep them looking like they belong to the same face.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 07:30:12 2015 No.2043475 I read some hampton and got a little better with 3d shapes. It's so frustrating though, not being gud and seeing gud art. Sometimes I wonder if I'm too naturally inclined toward programming and trying to get gud at art won't be fruitful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 08:30:11 2015 No.2043518 >>2043299 There is a guy on ic that uses a penis shaped brush, doing great protraits and paintings. Don't complain and start using your own

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 10:48:46 2015 No.2043594 NEW THREAD: >>2043592 >>2043592 >>2043592

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:24:16 2015 No.2043624 >>2042549 Do you have steam? /ic/ should have a beginner group or something.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 13:26:24 2015 No.2043736

I've worked through Loomis 3 times now. Well half in, that is. It suddenly moves form potato faces to real fucking people.

I also think that even my potato faces look shit.

Is there a more fundamental book? I think I need something to stop my symbol thinking.

Any ideas (besides Drawing with the right side of the brain)?

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