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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dI5b8Q82Vw&index=1&list=WL

I'm curious how this guy is able to be so gestural without breaking his poses. Life drawing? Animation experience? Also if you guys have any resources or guides on how to try like this feel free to post.

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Also I'm gonna dump so random art guides.

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>>2028598
*some*

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>> No.2028623

Animu.

>> No.2028631

Damn, he's good.
https://vimeo.com/83364870

>> No.2028719

you know from the thumbnail i thought you were talking about kim gung ji but instead you're talking about some shit-tier weeb from one of the worst art schools in the country.

good taste you got there bud.

>> No.2028733

>>2028719
Everybody knows about Kim Jung Gi and that he's probably one of the best artists out there. That being said, it doesn't mean other artists shouldn't be acknowledged, even if they're major weebs. Kid undeniably has good gesture and if you actually watched the video with his sketches, he has good life drawings too. And as a side note, do you know where the fuck you are? This 4chan, an anime image board, so yeah a lot of people here are going to be interested in an artist who does anime style stuff.

>> No.2029158

>>2028594
I'd have to see a process to be impressed. If that's an image he spent 30 hours on, it's really nothing to brag about.

>> No.2029175

>>2029158
What? What you're saying makes no sense. I can't tell if you are referring to the link in OP, which is a sketchbook and filled with quick things by some animator student, or if you are talking about the pic in OP, which is a drawing by Kim Jung Gi that probably only took him like 20 or 30 minutes. Either way, they are quick things, and even if they were slow they show good draftsmanship so it wouldn't matter if it took a long time, no one cares. Maybe I just got baited hard, but it's tough to tell with /ic/ sometimes.

>> No.2029182

>>2029158
>I'd have to see a process to be impressed
You're in luck because there are a good amount of ink demos by him on youtube. His sketchbook drawings are smaller and thus quicker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUFGe-4k6dU

>> No.2029192

>>2029158
I wish I could do that if I spent 30 hours.

>> No.2029200

>>2029158
are you talking about jung gi or the weeb?

because jung gi can draw pretty fast. he's been drawing for decades and has such a good sense of measurement and construction that he can do it by eye alone with no need to do elaborate planning. then again, most skilled artists after a while don't need to do that unless they're learning something new.

but even if it was done in 30 hours it'd be impressive...so i don't know what you're getting at.

>>2028733
>That being said, it doesn't mean other artists shouldn't be acknowledged, even if they're major weebs
then why didn't you use that spencer guy's art as the op?

>Kid undeniably has good gesture and if you actually watched the video with his sketches, he has good life drawings too
"gesture" is not a rare quality. it's why it's one of the first things you learn in most art classes.
i don't even find his drawings to have lively gesture work. when it's not a stock anime pose it's just a character standing.

>This 4chan, an anime image board
it's not 2005 anymore, 4chan's non-weeb boards outnumber the weeb boards.

>> No.2029213

>>2029200
>"gesture" is not a rare quality
Yes it is. How many artists genuinely have good gesture? Very very few. Sure, a lot of people can do semi-decent gestures from life (often using formulaic approaches taught by Hampton or others), but to maintain that gesture into the final work, or to invent that gesture is a very difficult thing to do. That's part of why people always do gesture drawings in life drawing, to work on this since it takes so long to master.

>it's why it's one of the first things you learn in most art classes.
Actually I think the reason it is first taught it many people (incorrectly) view it as being solely a warmup tool. Also it is a very important skill to have, and it is the backbone to a good figure so people try to teach it early. That being said, I disagree with the way things are taught, and while gesture is extremely important I think it is largely a useless exercise for a beginner artist and should only really be emphasized in intermediate or advanced stages when the student has a solid grasp of fundamentals.

>> No.2029297

>>2029213
While I get the intricacies of the actual benefits of gesture, I think I will still heavily recommend beginners to do them. It's a good warmup and it helps incorporate a useful habit in their workflow.

The reason I stress this is because gesture introduces the human figure in it's purest form, the 'expression' of it so to say, minus the complication of muscles and forms. Once beginners are familiar with the expression of the whole body, learning about anatomy and form will come more naturally.
It also helps beginners get rid of their fuzzy/chicken scratches, by having them loosen their hand, an undoubtedly useful skill for an artist's lifetime.

>> No.2029303

>>2029297
Sure, you're free to feel that way. It's the way most people feel and teach life drawing.

I still feel the opposite though. Just from the countless beginners' gestures I've seen, I notice they A) tend to not understand the forms well that they draw, instead copying 2d shapes poorly B) do the gestures rushed, C) can't get the major angles or proportions correct since they lack basic drawing skills. The result is frustration and shitty drawings and no real improvement or learning happening. They also tend to see gesture as a separate entity from figure drawing ("it's warmup" or "what's the point of this?") and so cannot take what they learn from gesture and apply it to finished drawings. In my opinion, a beginner would learn best by doing lots of medium length poses, maybe 5 or 10 minutes each and up to about 20, just getting proper form and proportion and building up their draftsmanship and knowledge of the body. After a while of this maybe some 3 minute poses can be introduced as well as longer poses.

>> No.2029626

>>2029303
This so much. Gesture gives life to a drawing, which in my personal opinion, is up there as one of the most important aspects of drawing.

>> No.2029635

>>2029200
>then why didn't you use that spencer guy's art as the op?
Because I had Kim Jung Gi's art already on my computer.
>it's not 2005 anymore, 4chan's non-weeb boards outnumber the weeb boards.
You're right and it makes me sad.